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Apr 10 2012

Coming Soon: Restrictions on Internal Movements?

One of the major differences between the USA and the USSR is that inmates of the latter were not free to move about the country without permission from bureaucrats. That may also be a difference between the USA and the “fundamentally transformed” USSA of Barack Hussein Obama.

Democrats have already moved to empower the IRS to prevent you from leaving the country if they feel they haven’t confiscated enough of your money:

The provision is part of Senate Bill 1813, which was introduced by Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) in November and passed by the Senate on March 14 “to reauthorize Federal-aid highway and highway safety construction programs, and for other purposes.”

Those “other purposes” have come to include a little-known amendment recently introduced by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid that would allow the State Department to revoke, deny or limit passports for anyone the Internal Revenue Service certifies as having “a seriously delinquent tax debt in an amount in excess of $50,000.”

The Beaufort Observer asks,

Be aware that once they allow the IRS to block international travel is there one among us who does not believe it will then be extended to travel within the United States?

There are going to be those who will just brush the issue aside. It will thus befall the knowledgeable and concerned patriots to stop this dangerous action. Many people don’t even realize that the courts have for years exempted the IRS from the restriction of the Fifth Amendment’s protection from self-incrimination. The rationale for that was that collecting taxes was not a criminal matter. But there are hundreds of people sitting in Federal prison today who will contest that. Obviously there is a very thin line between civil and criminal with the IRS. And there does not appear to be anything in Sen. Boxer’s bill that draws a bright line to restrict the IRS.

Nor is there any bright line between what remains of our liberties and the totalitarian control Democrats long for.

Papers-Please

On a tip from Byron.

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  • http://www.henrypbabcock.com Henry
  • Spider

    The article is quite right. Did anyone really think the govt., especially this Marxist govt., would allow the internet to stay unmolested? The govt. (city,state, and feds) see hundreds-of-Billions in tax just waiting to be plundered, and also the ability to censor any speech they disapprove of. You can bet your life (or your freedom and liberty) they’re going to do it.

    But this could only happen in a ntion who’s people have become weak, gullible, and mindless sheep. In other words, Amerika.

  • Judith M.

    Ha! I guess a lot of Hollywood types and media moguls will have to cancel their trips to the Riviera if this passes.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    What kind of message does this send to potential entrepreneurs from other countries contemplating coming here ?

    Making matters worse is the fact that we already have the highest corporate tax rates in the world
    This would remake the US alright
    Into the worlds largest roach motel
    You can come, but you may never leave
    http://blog.heritage.org/2012/04/02/morning-bell-the-highest-taxes-in-the-world/

  • AC

    There’s really no need for overt propiska checkpoints when the public willingly carries around GPS devices, compulsively updates their Facebook and Twitter, and pays for everything with a bank card and shows ID while doing so.

    Our constitution has been trampled and all of this is available to law enforcement with less than a constitutionally proper warrant.

    Early Soviet authorities needed to limit people’s movement because it was so hard for local authorities to locate someone once he or she had fled.

    It was joked that under communism, police would not be necessary because the citizens would know how to arrest themselves. We are only halfway there. We self-report.

  • Red Dawn

    It seems that the IRS has become the primary mechanism of direct harassment because it is the only central agency that directly interacts with most citizens.

    Expect the IRS to handle more and more of the authoritarian duties of the regime going forward.

  • whotothewhat

    “State Department to revoke, deny or limit passports for anyone the Internal Revenue Service certifies as having “a seriously delinquent tax debt in an amount in excess of $50,000.”

    Seeing how most of congress and a lot of government employees flaunt our TAX codes, they are not going to be allowed to travel overseas?

  • AC

    Comrade Chairman just gave the IRS another $500 million to enforce Obamacare.

  • StanInTexas

    “State Department to revoke, deny or limit passports for anyone the Internal Revenue Service certifies as having “a seriously delinquent tax debt in an amount in excess of $50,000.”

    Anyone want to bet that members of Congress will be exempt from this rule?

  • TED
  • Sam Adams

    With inflation poised to kick in, that $50,000 limit may be reached by normal folks much sooner that some might anticipate.

    It ain’t just for rich folks.

  • Robin

    I wonder of that $50k amount includes interest and penalties? In that case, I have some mid to lower income friends who will no longer be able to leave the country. They have tried to negotiate with the IRS on many occasions, but they flatly refuse. It seems the IRS has an “all or nothing” mentality. They already have a tax lein on their house, now they get to restrict their travel? What’s next?

  • SeaFoamGreen

    Here you scare-mongers go again. Restricting movement of citizens?

    Next thing you know, you’ll be saying that skyrocketing gas prices will start to curtail the ability of people to move around, coupled with EPA standards that make automobiles either too expensive or unavailable, thus forcing people to use public transportation which only allows us to go when and where THEY want us to go, and…

    …oh…

    Never mind.

  • http://conservativetruthhq.blogspot.com/ Laurie T

    Why are we letting this happen?

    If the RNC can’t produce any (ahem) “leaders” better than Mitt “McCain” Romney, isn’t it the job of the American People to put a stop to attempt at socializing America by an undocumented president?

    Maybe WE should be marching on Washington, burning buildings, cr@pping on police cars, and throwing rocks and bottles. If the cops aren’t going to stop the Occupiers, they’re not going to stop us.

  • -Sepp

    Here’s a novel idea…how about a bill that forbids congress from attatching crap ideas and agendas to bills they have NOTHING to do with?

    I’m sick of finding out later that leftist crud that calls for more restrictions on liberty has been jammed between the pages of the (example) “No restrictions on liberty act”.
    The democraps are experts at inserting borderline unconstitutional crap into highway bills or, military funding bills.
    I just want some truth here.

    If your elitist, socialist idea is so damned great, why not give it it’s own platform instead of hiding it in the pages of unrelated laws?

    Likely because Americans would shoot down their totalitarian ideas UNLESS they were concealed in a boring highway funding bill.

  • Bill T

    Could this be bathhouse barry’s vision for his high speed intercontinental rail system? I wonder whats at the end of the line.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ovq79_VEc

  • SeaFoamGreen

    Oh Laurie, there is where you are wrong. No one stops the Occupiers because the Occupiers are communists, anarchists and Marxists.

    A Tea-Party march would threaten The Anointed One and his minions. It wouldn’t be cops, it would be Nat’l Guard troops.

    Freedom of speech and the right to violently assemble only applies to the 99 percent (i.e. the minority of communist revolutionaries who want to overthrow representational government, liberty and the free market system.)

  • Son of Taz

    “Many people don’t even realize that the courts have for years exempted the IRS from the restriction of the Fifth Amendment’s protection from self-incrimination. The rationale for that was that collecting taxes was not a criminal matter. But there are hundreds of people sitting in Federal prison today who will contest that. Obviously there is a very thin line between civil and criminal with the IRS.”

    This has to change. Can anyone name any other civil litigation where either party to a suit ends up in jail? Incarceration is the penalty for criminal convictions.

    It’s time to wipe away the IRS.

  • Warlord

    Just another alphabet agency we cannot afford any longer.

  • http://AWarmBowlofTaqiyya W. C. Taqiyya

    News flash to the uninformed. This is not new. This is simply the expected extension of a policy already in place for the so-called deadbeat dad epidemic. If you owe alimony or ‘child’ support, you can’t get a passport. Welcome to a world you never knew existed people. Next, it will be loans, mortgages, credit cards. Soon, say hello to summary arrest and imprisonment, license revocation, confiscation and wage garnishment. It’s a brave new world, all over again.

  • Tom Stevens

    The USA continues to take away the freedom of Americans. This bill has already passed the senate, it is very important that you contact your representatives to oppose senate bill 1813 and request that the amendment giving new power to the IRS to revoke and suspend passports removed. It is very easy to contact your representatives by email, here is the link. https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

    Below is my draft response to my representative, it may be helpful for other people that oppose this bill and also explains my views. You are welcome to use whatever you want when you contact your representatives.

    I oppose S.1813 – Transportation Research and Innovative Technology Act of 2012. I also oppose the attached Amendment giving power to the IRS to revoke and suspend passports.

    Specifically I oppose the bill because it creates additional spending and even more important I also oppose the attached amendment giving power to the IRS to revoke or suspend or renew passports. I oppose the IRS having the power to prevent or prohibit Americans from traveling. I oppose giving the IRS any additional powers. Please do what it takes to remove the amendment from Senate bill 1813 and all other bills it may get attached to in the future.

    First of all Americans have the right to dispute an IRS claim and the amount of the dispute is unimportant. Everyone knows the exorbitant penalties and high interest can hyper-inflate any claim to a much higher figure than what is mentioned in the amendment. The politicians in the senate are obviously trying to circumvent justice and give the IRS the power to strong arm the taxpayers and take away their right to dispute an IRS claim.

    The IRS is already the most feared and ruthless collection agency in the world, politicians should be limiting the IRS powers not giving them more power. The politicians have promised to reduce the powers of the IRS many times before but instead they attempt to give the IRS more power. The hypocritical politicians need to be stopped now. Please also introduce a bill to reduce the powers of the IRS.

    It is obvious once again the politicians that authored the amendment and attached the amendment to Bill 1813 and the senators that approved this bill 1813 are not thinking correctly. As a general rule the rich and the poor do not have tax disputes with the IRS of course their are a few exceptions but not many, it is the small business owners that have the majority of tax disputes with the IRS. In addition it is the small business owners that pay the majority of the taxes to the IRS. So the stupid or ignorant politicians that authored and attached and approved the amendment giving power to the IRS to revoke or suspend passports are targeting and attacking the small business owners which pay most of the taxes in the USA, that sounds kind of stupid to me. In addition the small business owners that do international business will be affected the most, unfortunately that is the fastest growing portion of American business. Small business owners that focus on international business are the companies that are hiring many people at this time. Once again targeting and attacking the fastest growing and most vulnerable part of American Business sounds stupid to me. The amendment could obviously have a negative impact on the hiring of Americans and jeopardize desperately needed jobs. Please do everything possible to prevent bill 1813 from becoming law and remove all Amendments giving additional power to the IRS.

    If this bill 1813 with the amendment giving the IRS power to revoke passports is ever passed, soon after some ignorant congressman will attempt to take away the drivers licenses of the American people for some frivolous reason. That will accomplish nothing and further anger and polarize the American people as well as erode American values and pride as well as restrict the freedom and liberty of Americans. I assume they may soon revoke all the driving licenses of Americans that cannot afford to pay their student loans or some other asinine reason. I am sure this will happen so please be prepared and vote no for any such action. These attacks on the freedom need to stop now.

    Restricting Americans freedom to travel in order to help reduce the deficit is unconscionable and stupid.These soviet style tactics of limiting peoples freedom are going to backfire. As was in the other repressive societies in the past the wealthy and middle class people that can afford to will just leave the USA permanently and start paying their taxes to another country that does not have soviet style repression. Many wealthy and middle class people are already leaving the USA. So the end result would be that less people would be paying taxes. You already know this is already happening. This Senate Bill 1813 needs to defeated and the amendment giving power to the IRS to revoke and suspend passports needs to removed permanently from all bills. Please make sure it happens.

    Everyone knows that the true cause of huge budget deficit and the astronomical debt is overspending and over borrowing. Always keep in mind that the politicians created the huge deficit and astronomical debt. The taxpayers with IRS disputes did not create this problem. If the debt was not so large and the taxes not so high and the IRS penalties not so unreasonable there would be far less tax disputes and no need to harass American taxpayers. The politicians created all this debt so it would better if you introduced a bill that gives the IRS the power to revoke the passports of the politicians that created this huge debt and deficit problem, please do that. This repressive amendment may be a feeble attempt to cut the deficit however it appears more like a distraction designed to distraction Americans from the real problem of overspending but it will obviously not work. It is not possible to reduce the huge astronomical debt by making the USA into a debtors prison. You could take away everyone’s passport and driving license and you still would not be able to fix the huge budget deficit and the astronomical debt of our country.

    The amendment that gives the IRS the power to revoke or suspend passports is extremely repressive as well offensive. It is something you expect from Russia or China, not the USA. Turning the USA into a debtors prison is something I thought could never happen in the USA. This country has gone down hill rapidly, the politicians are destroying America. The amendment attached to Senate bill 1813 giving the IRS power to revoke or suspend passports proves that the government really is turning into a repressive regime against American’s right to freedom, liberty and the pursuit of justice. Already the USA has the highest percentage of it’s citizens in prison, a higher percentage than any other country in the world including Iran, China, Cuba and Russia. Now the politicians want to make the entire country a debtors prison, it appears that the politicians in the Senate may be mentally ill or intentionally trying to create a repressive regime to totally control it’s citizens. I value freedom and liberty above everything else as did my forefathers that founded and fought to keep this country free. The inclusion of the Amendment of giving additional power to the IRS in any bill is one step closer for the USA to becoming a police state. Please do everything possible to prevent this bill 1813 from becoming law and remove the amendment giving the IRS any additional power (including the revocation or suspension or preventing the renewal of passports).

    Even though the huge debt and budget deficit is a catastrophic problem it appears that the Senate politicians would rather spend their valuable time harassing Americans instead of trying to find ways to cut the out of control spending. The only thing that will fix the huge deficit and the astronomical debt of our country is to cut spending so I am also instructing you to reduce spending now. I oppose any additional spending, I also oppose any additional debt. I want you to cut spending. Please concentrate on the problem of overspending and prevent socialist senate politicians from passing laws that give more power to the IRS to harass and imprison American citizens in their own country. The politicians caused the huge deficit now fix it by cutting spending and cutting borrowing.

    Please vote no for all such amendments and bills that polarize the people and/or attempt to create class warfare and/or harass American citizens and/or limit Americans freedom and/or take away the rights of Americans to dispute claims with the IRS or make it more difficult to dispute claims with the IRS.

    There is an ever growing erosion of American values and pride as well as an ever increasing embarrassment of being American. Politicians that create and pass laws that limit American freedom and erode American pride are making the USA the laughing stock of the world. America is supposed to be a role model for other countries when it comes to freedom. Instead now the amendment attached to bill 1813 giving power to the IRS to revoke or suspend passports prove that the USA is one of the most repressive governments in the world.

    When I see attachments to bills like the one giving the IRS power to suspend or revoke an Americans right to travel it makes me sick. It makes me feel embarrassed to be an American. Please try to stop the other politicians from destroying our country. Can you imagine what reaction our forefathers the founders of this country would have if something like this happened 200 years ago? It is obvious that would have never happened because they understood what freedom means and fought and died for the freedom of Americans. Now politicians are trying to take away the freedom of Americans. So why is it happening now? I think you already know, this country is going bankrupt and bad politicians would rather polarize and harass American citizens than cut spending. As always politicians put their own interest in continuing their career as a politician ahead of the needs of the American people. The overspending socialist politicians are addicted to spending other peoples money (the tax payers) and borrowing more every chance they get.It is easy for them to spend other peoples money, specifically my money (Americans are responsible for the debt of their country.). That is sad and it makes me sick when politicians spend my money foolishly. I would never authorize anyone to use my money to overspend and then over borrow. I am instructing you to cut spending now and stop harassing Americans. Please oppose Senate bill 1813 and remove the amendment giving the IRS power to revoke, suspend or refuse renewal of passports.

    It is hard to believe that in the USA travel is a privilege and not a right. The USA government continues to increase control over it’s citizens at an alarming rate. When the American government controls your ability to travel it is easy to see that the American government is out of control.and needs to reigned in by it’s citizens. Please initiate a bill that makes Americans ability to travel freely a right and not just a privilege so other politicians will never be able to do this repressive act in the future. I don’t want my government to be able to limit travel and control Americans like other repressive governments. I want Americans to be to be free and I want to be proud of my country.

    The politicians created all the problems in my country so please start fixing this country now by cutting spending, please stop spending my money without my permission, please stop borrowing without my permission. Most of all stop attempting to harass the American citizens and don’t forget the taxpayers that the Senate politicians are attempting to harass pay their salaries. Please initiate a bill to reduce all congressman’s salary by 50% until the astronomical government debt is zero.

    This bill is already causing stress and strife in this country. Politicians are trying to polarize the American people and imprison Americans that want to dispute IRS claims. It is a lame idea and it will not work. The whole idea of a debtors prison is archaic and repressive. It appears that the politicians that approved this bill in the senate are obviously trying to distract Americans and divert their attention from the real problem (overspending & over borrowing). You politicians need to remember that our forefathers that were rich and poor fought together to create a free country. The rich and the poor fought to keep an oppressive government from controlling their lives. It appears that once again it is time for the rich and poor to work together to change this repressive regime that you politicians call a government. It is time to vote against all the politicians that attempt to attempt to create a repressive regime that tries to control the freedom of it’s citizens.

    Once again, I oppose Bill 1813 and I oppose the attached Amendment giving the IRS additional powers to revoke, suspend or refuse to renew passports. I want you to remove the Amendment giving power to the IRS to revoke, suspend or refuse to renew passports from bill 1813 and any other bill that contains similar amendments. I oppose any bill that changes the freeways to toll roads.

    Sincerely,

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