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Apr 12 2012

Rule of Law Collapses

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Local authorities determined that George Zimmerman did nothing wrong in shooting the vicious punk who had been trying to dash his brains out against the sidewalk. But in light of pressure brought to bear by blood-drenched professional race-baiter Al Sharpton and his violent mob, as well as from his ideological compadres Barack Hussein Obama and Eric Holder, they have reversed themselves. Zimmerman has now been arrested for enraging the racial grievance industry by defending himself from a black hoodlum while being a “white” Hispanic.

We are now ruled by a vicious mob. If O.J. could be found innocent, the odds of Zimmerman getting a fair trial are nil. He will die an ugly death in a prison cell for the greater glory of political correctness, and to make clear that we are no longer free even to defend ourselves from violence. Welcome to New Zimbabwe.

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  • StanInTexas

    …and it is no coincidence that LIBERAL DEMOCRATS were responsible for both lynchings!

  • Winston Smith

    Calling Zimmerman a WHITE Hispanic is like calling Comrade Obama a WHITE Black.

    Though its ironic that Zimmerman is also a registered DEMOCRAT – dont hear anything about that in the media.

    Wonder Zimmermans trial will play in the “Hispanic Community” come election time. Dont hear anything at all about it. Ive seen polls where they compare opinions of Blacks vs. Whites but exclude Hispanic views. Gee, wonder why.

  • kiplingsburdens

    Liberals need perpetual victims. Self-defense, any and all acts of self-defense are anathema to them. Had Zimmerman just allowed the St. Skittles to take his gun as he smashed his head into the pavement and shoot him a few times, this all would have had a happy ending. St. Skittles would have earned his “props” in the thug culture, Liberals could decry the Second Amendment and just another non-crime that may or may not have made into the statistics, surely the perpetrator’s race would have removed.

    Now Maya Fagootberg is decrying selfdefense as vigilantism and claims that he fears visiting states with self-defense laws and for his daughters despite the fact that all of them are accompanied by an army of armed men at all times… It is sad that so many brave men died to defend this nation from foreign enemies while our worst enemies resided within.

  • Bo Jangles

    It’s cases like this one that prove the Clan wasn’t so wrong after all. It’s time they came back to life.

  • kiplingsburdens

    And.. This really should prove a teaching moment. When in a life and death situation- don’t call 911. If you do and survive you will be treated as the criminal. Police and District Attorneys are not in any way looking to protect you, uncover the truth or provide justice – they are out to provide statistics to support their own careers and to enrich their pensions.

    Had Zimmerman been targeting the Martyr of Sanford and looking to kill him, he could have blown him away, never calling 911 and been home in time for dinner. It would have been attributed to another black on black crime involving gangs and drugs. No one would have cared and it never would have made it beyond the local news.

    Had Zimmerman had the surname of Lopez or Morales, this discussion would never had taken place. This was the perfect opportunity to “stick it to whitey.” Only Zimmerman’s skin color got in the way a bit, but no matter with a news media fomenting blood at any cost they invented “White Hispanic.”

    This case is a disgrace and history will prove this time be a racist witch hunt like the Dreyfus Affair in France. J’accuse Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, Waters! The blood of an innocent man, his now destroyed life and the riots that are guaranteed to now come along with hundreds of victims are on their hands.

  • Alborn49

    The Democrats that made up the KKK turned the people they killed into their killers. They kill each other everyday and the Democrats do nothing to stop black on black crime. Then they take a tradegy like this one and try to make their plight the fault of the rest of America who has bent over backward to give them opportunities and they still remain slaves to the Democratic slave owners. What is said about a dog that is beat by it’s owner. Sad but true. I have learned it does not matter what color a Democrat is they are all corrupt liars.

  • Uncle Pinko

    You do realize that you are keeping the racial grievance industry alive with your racism, right?

    Yes, Sharpton et al can go too far, but calling Trayvon a “black hoodlum,” I mean, it just doesn’t get more disgusting than that.

  • lao

    A special prosecutor has investigated and, based on the evidence that she has, has chosen to lay charges. A trial will be conducted, evidence will be presented and a decision re guilty or not guilty will be decided.

    Rule of Law Collapses??

    Bo Jangles offers an actual suggestion for the collapse of the Rule of Law.

  • Doug

    let me rephrase that for you genius:

    A special prosecutor has investigated and, based on the pressure from corrupt Democrat-voting scumbag groups that she is beholden to, has chosen to lay charges. A trial will be conducted, evidence will be presented and a decision re guilty will be forthcoming or our Corrupter in Chief will order race riots personally.

  • StanInTexas

    •An incident occurs where a HISPANIC man kills a black youth that was attacking him.
    •The police investigate, judge the shooting to be self-defense, and allow the man to go home.
    •The press picks up on the story and determines that the Hispanic man is actually WHITE and stirs up the non-exisistant racial aspect.
    •Black race-whores rush to the scene, threatening violence and murder against WHITES unless the HISPANIC man is punished.
    •In order to quell the impending race-riots, a special prosecutor is assigned and charges the HISPANIC man with 2nd-degree murder.
    •Liberals slightly cheer, while planning their next move for race-riots.

  • Sinister66

    Considering the special prosecuter has seen all of the evidence, read all of the police reports and autopsy report. Heard all of the 911 tapes puts him/her in a better position of actually knowing what really happened. All anyone else knows is what has been reported by the media and it would be crazy to think that was everything.

  • FrankW

    I am curious as to the past leanings of the special prosecutor. They are just as subject to political bias as any other official. Just because she is listed as a special prosecutor makes her a prosecutor, not all that special. Actually if she has a history of being conservative is about the only thing that would lessen doubt in her impartiality.

  • dan

    the tyranny of democracy or the making of another attorney general for when Holder gets his just desserts….didn’t the Butcher of Waco hail from that area ?

  • Dr. 9

    Yes Uncle Pinko, those of you on the Left do usually find the truth to be disgusting, especially when you disagree with it.

    And Alborn49, you are quite right. The Demoncrats/Left continue to see/use blacks, gays, women, and “the children”, as political props. Nothing more. It speaks volumes about their true motives, but speakes even more about the intellectual weakness of the American people that allows them to get away with it.

  • StanInTexas

    Sinister, that is a good point, and one that would have carried more weight if you had made it when Liberals were calling Zimmerman a murderer and demanding he be brought in DEAD or ALIVE!

  • StanInTexas

    That is a good point, Frank.

    *IF* the “special” prosecutor brought the charges based upon ” all of the evidence, read all of the police reports and autopsy report. Heard all of the 911 tapes” as Sinister said, then that is fine.

    If however, the entire motivations was politically based, as in “If I don’t charge this guy with murder and get him convicted, we will have riots”, then we have a VERY serious problem!

  • A. Levy

    Has anyone else noticed a hint of black facial features of the so-called “special prosecutor” in FL? And why was she chosen, and by whom? Hmmm…

  • Bill T

    Where are the race hustlers on this? Guess we wont hear much from them since these two were in the wrong Hood while driving a Beam er!
    http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/news/local/two-usc-students-shot-while-sitting-in-car-2012-04-11

  • James McEnanly

    # Bo Jangles
    It’s cases like this one that prove the Clan wasn’t so wrong after all. It’s time they came back to life.They never left. They’ve simply revamped their personnel standards.

  • Charlotte

    They should have gone to the Grand Jury with it. Surmise they would have “no billed.”

    The “special prosecutor” (why?)has determined there is enough evidence for 2nd degree AFTER the Sanford police department let him go. I really think that the Sanford police would have arrested him if they could have because Mr. Zimmerman had helped force them to arrest policeman’s son (I believe he was white) who had either shot or beaten a black man.

    The special prosecutor is a partisan hack. Would expect this to go the way of our other illustrious trial….”Casey A.”

    There is an eye witness who testified that Mr. Zimmerman was being being beaten by Mr. Martin. The physical evidence collaborates Mr. Zimmerman’s testimony.

    Facts are facts. (at least the last time I checked, they are)

  • Sinister66

    StanInTexas says:
    If you would have been paying any attaintion you would have noticed I didnt comment when people were calling Zimmerman a murderer or calling Martin a vicious punk.
    As I said, no one has all of the information on what happened. I am kinda surprised the special prosecuter went for 2nd degree murder and not manslaughter. A conviction of manslaughter seems like it would be easier to get. She must have seen something we have not.

  • AC

    Considering the special prosecuter has seen all of the evidence, read all of the police reports and autopsy report. Heard all of the 911 tapes puts him/her in a better position of actually knowing what really happened. All anyone else knows is what has been reported by the media and it would be crazy to think that was everything.

    The purpose of a grand jury is to act as a check and balance against a prosecutor’s discretion in serious felony cases. Considering that a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich, the choice to cancel an already scheduled grand jury hearing is little more than a maneuver to ensure that Zimmerman was charged with some form of murder, instead of risking the grand jury coming back with a no bill or an indictment for manslaughter.

    The evidence, even when viewed in the light most favorable to the prosecution, cannot sustain a charge of murder. Whether it was manslaughter or self defense is a jury question, whether in the preliminary indictment, or at trial.

    Upgrading the charge to murder is sensationalist and may deprive Zimmerman of the ability to post bail.

    If I were on the jury, I would not convict for manslaughter, based on the evidence which has been released. That being said, I wouldn’t have had a problem with an indictment for manslaughter, since there is a question of fact at dispute, which the due process of our judicial system is designed to resolve.

    There is nothing to suggest that this was a murder.

    Zimmerman was in a fight he did not provoke and did not want to be engaged in. That can’t sustain murder.

  • StanInTexas

    Yes, Sinister. I noticed you didn’t comment while all that was going on. You stayed silent while Zimmerman was accused of murder and a bounty was put on his head. You saved your impotent lecture about evidence for those of us that think the charge was politically motivated.

    Thanks!

  • Spider

    Is “special prosecutor” code for pandering?
    If anyone askes you to place a bet that Mr. Zimmerman will be found (not) guilty, don’t take it. This case has already been decided. You can clearly see that simply by the way the MSM is now discribing the case.

    When he is found to be guilty of, well, something, that will open the door for the family to sue everyone and everything in sight. Al $harptongue and Je$$ie Jackass will get their usual “donations”, (which is why they’re there) and “justice” will have been served. But the protests won’t stop. The real target is FL.’s “Stand Your Ground” law, a law which makes violent black criminals afraid you won’t continue to be a passive victim.

  • http://14 Cameraman

    This is a Travesty Of Justice, or should I say “Trayvon”of Justice? WTF This Man “Zimmerman will take the Heat for all The Race Baiting, and threats of Violence from the Commie Mobs and Race Thugs, know as Democrats. NBP and The Justus Bros..Jury Nullification!

  • AC

    A Florida jury will not convict Zimmerman of even manslaughter, unless he’s hauled before a kangaroo court with a racially loaded jury.

  • C. S. P. Schofield

    Bo Jangles;

    The Klan are, now as then, a disgusting bunch of race baiting opportunists. They should be locked into a small room with their spiritual brothers – Barak “my son would look like Martin” Obama and Al “Tawana Brawley” Sharpton specifically inclided – and left there to feed on each-other.

  • SR

    I’ll bet if Zimmerman is found “not guilty” all hell will break loose.

  • Sinister66
  • StanInTexas

    That is pretty classless, Sinister.

  • StanInTexas

    SR, that is a certainity!

  • lao

    The far right prediction was, if Zimmerman was NOT charged, race riots would break out and that, supposedly, was what the left wanted.

    Now we have to wait goodness knows how long, for Zimmerman to be found not guilty for race riots to break out. Whose side is the special prosecutor on anyhow?

    Knowing the literal-minded parrots like I do, I will confirm that I’m being sarcastic.

  • Sinister66

    AC says:

    “The evidence, even when viewed in the light most favorable to the prosecution, cannot sustain a charge of murder.”

    Your under the impression you have seen it all.

    “Zimmerman was in a fight he did not provoke and did not want to be engaged in. That can’t sustain murder.”

    Based solely on what the media has reported.

    If after the trail(which will more then likely be televised) zimmerman is found not guilty then he goes free, If he is found guilty he wont. just have to wait and see.

  • Sinister66

    oops “trial”

  • Bloodless Coup

    Are the New Black Panthers and La Raza teaming up for a race war against whitey?

    According to this racist nut job who calls himself an Aztec al-Qaeda Warrior (aka E. F. Mohammed Martinez) La Raza and the Black Panthers have been teamed up for a long time already.

    See his my space page by clicking on the link

    http://www.myspace.com/aztecchicanointifada/blog#!

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, you wanted the investigation to go through. It did.

    Now we wait on the trial. And with the politicized climate in Florida now, his being found not guilty is FAR from a certainity!

    And as far as the race riots go, that may be the outcome, but the Left is just happy to keep the situation enflamed. Or do you seriously thing that this arrest and charge will get the Blacks to back off of their “Kill Whitey” rhetoric?

  • AlphaMail

    The liberal meaning of…….Race for the Whitehouse.

  • Sinister66

    StanInTexas says:

    “That is pretty classless, Sinister.”

    I didnt start it.

    Question for you.
    If Zimmerman is found guilty will you except that?

    I will except whatever verdict is delivered and that will be the end of it dont care either way. Same as the Casey A. trial. Be happier about not hearing about it anymore.

  • StanInTexas

    Really, Sinister. You posted it thinking we would get a laugh out of it? Or were you trying to goad us into agreeing with it. It was classless for YOU to bring it here.

    And I welcome a trial. Show the evidence and let the system decide.I just hope it does not turn into trial-by-media lie OJ did.

  • lao

    Sinister66 says: Considering the special prosecuter has seen all of the evidence, read all of the police reports and autopsy report. Heard all of the 911 tapes puts him/her in a better position of actually knowing what really happened. All anyone else knows is what has been reported by the media and it would be crazy to think that was everything.

    Those remarks explain why I stated on March 23: I am quite content to allow the investigations already under way to run their course.

    Between then and now we were regaled with many, many whining complaints from stanwee:

    StanInTexas says: March 30, 2012 at 8:58 am
    And we ALL know about your impotent little statement concerning the investigation. What you have been asked AND REFUSED TO ANSWER is… “Will you accept the results of that investigation and let this all go?”
    And we all know WHY you won’t answer, don’t we Lao!

    Since I was not the one perpetuating 40+ Trayvon threads, I found stanwee’s query amusing to say the least, particularly since he refused to answer his own question.

    Oh, by the way stanwee. Now that the investigation by the special prosecutor is complete, I accept the results.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, your obsession with this subject is already established. You can stop posting the count.

  • AC

    Your under the impression you have seen it all.

    If there is unreleased and damning evidence, it should have been presented to the grand jury.

    That being said, nothing short of a confession is going to do him in. What has been released so far from the witnesses, forensics, and Zimmerman’s injuries suggests that Trayvon started the fight, knocked Zimmerman to the ground, climbed on top of him, and began slamming his head into the pavement.

    That would lead a reasonable person to presume he was the victim of aggravated assault, which makes the shooting justifiable.

    A charge of murder in any degree, under these circumstances, would require that Zimmerman be the instigator and aggressor.

  • lao

    As expected, the moonbattery Trial By Blog continues.

  • Kanaka Girl

    I’m still waiting for ONE media outlet to show a current picture of Trayvon with his gold grill, tattoos and vulgar hand gestures.
    The media and the race baiting whores the White House and DOJ have a LOT to answer for. They won’t be happy until there’s a race war.

  • lao

    Too funny.

    stanwee figures I’M obsessed with the subject because I’m aware that moonbattery has posted dozens of threads about it.

    stanwee, you whined over and over because I WOULDN’T comment on the case.

    Duh!!

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, You ARE obsessed because you are COUNTING the threads. You are probably also counting the number of posts on each thread. We do know you are cataloging the threads.

    And I only commented over yourt LIE that you had answered my question, which you never did.

  • Doug

    ….and Soros hit the jackpot betting against Greece!

    KA-CHING! /lao

  • Sam

    College dropout and overall dipshit Toure opens his massive shithole again.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/11/Toure-Obama-white-people

  • SR

    You know what killed Trayvon Martin? The gangsta thug wannabe culture.
    I also suspect the real target in all of this is the 2nd Amendment.

  • Sinister66

    StanInTexas says:

    “And I welcome a trial”

    Thats not what I asked.
    If Zimmerman is found guilty will you except that?

  • AC

    As expected, the moonbattery Trial By Blog continues.

    That never happens at HuffPo or Kos. Nope.

  • lao

    Come on stanwee….answer sinister, YES or NO!!

    LOL!!!

  • lao

    As usual stanwee, what you think you KNOW resides in your own imagination.

    I started counting the threads because I couldn’t believe the over the top hysteria that moonbattery adopted in trying, vainly as it turned out, to declare that Zimmerman could not possibly be charged with a crime.

    Stating, quite clearly, that I was waiting for the investigations to conclude WAS an answer. That you were too stupid to understand that is not my problem.

  • StanInTexas

    Piss off, Lao!

    Sinister, that will all depend on whether this is a real trial or a media lynching.

  • Sinister66

    AC says:

    “That being said, nothing short of a confession is going to do him in. What has been released so far from the witnesses, forensics, and Zimmerman’s injuries suggests that Trayvon started the fight, knocked Zimmerman to the ground, climbed on top of him, and began slamming his head into the pavement.”

    You have not seen any of the witness reports, forensics reports, Autopsy reports. The only info you have is what has been reported and all of that is second hand.

    Just an example of Neighborhood watch rules.

    http://www.freewebs.com/springmountwatch/rules.htm
    http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/NWProgramHandbook.pdf

  • SR
  • AC

    Just an example of Neighborhood watch rules.

    Meaningless.

    Zimmerman has the legal right to walk on a sidewalk and carry his properly licensed concealed weapon, HOA edicts notwithstanding.

  • TED
  • mtngoat

    Can we get those images in a larger format? that would be awesome.

  • geeknerd

    WHERE ARE THE HISPANIC GROUPS IN ALL THIS?
    WHERE IS La Raza?
    Their WHITE liberal MASTERS have told them to shut up (or else they gets the whip)

  • SR
  • StanInTexas

    La Raza (The Race) has openly sided with the NBBP and drank the kool-aid on Zimmerman. He is white to them. Another inconvenient minority tossed under the bus of political correctness.

  • Jimbo

    Radical racist black liberal fools and race-baiting white liberal fools are bringing the mountain down on themselves. Idiots. Stupid, stupid, stupid idiots are cutting their own throats.

  • LadyLiberty

    I agree him being charged is ridiculous since it appears he was only charged because of the race baiters.

    Hopefully though in the end justice will prevail.

    George Zimmerman: Self-defense hearing could dismiss death charge

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-11/news/os-george-zimmerman-stand-your-ground-hearings-20120411_1_eric-sandhaus-craig-sandhaus-milton-torres

    Related

    American Scene: Miami judge rules for ‘stand your ground’

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/28/american-scene-miami-judge-rules-for-stand-your-gr/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

  • FrankW

    I realize lao is comfy and safe in his ivory tower. I likewise will not be directly threatened by riots in south-central Podunk, KS. But there will be riots either way. The same group will riot either way. The question is only will they riot in celebration of a guilty verdict or will they riot in disgust at a not guilty verdict?
    I could be cynical and predict the race riots will be a bammy “October surprise”. Either by dropping the case or by delivering a verdict this would be a massive distraction nationally and be a precinct disruptor in Florida (historically a last second decider).

  • http://moonbattery.com/ Dave Blount

    mtngoat,

    Thanks for the suggestion. Sean’s excellent graphics are now available in full size.

  • TED
  • LadyLiberty

    p.s. Moonbattery the Zimmerman case put aside one question though why are Hispanics counted as white when they commit crimes but as Hispanic when they are victims?

    ‘Hispanic effect’ skews crime stats

    http://www.futurity.org/society-culture/skewed-stats-distort-black-crime-reports/

  • Sinister66

    AC says:

    “Zimmerman has the legal right to walk on a sidewalk and carry his properly licensed concealed weapon, HOA edicts notwithstanding.”

    While performing neighborhood watch duties members arent to carry firearms. If he didnt want to follow the rules he shouldnt have joined the program. And even zimmerman said he was “persuing someone”, dont try spinning it to just “walking on the sidewalk”.
    Him doing so while acting as a neighborhood watch captain has opened the HOA up to lawsuits.

    National Neighborhood watch rules.
    http://www.usaonwatch.org/assets/publications/0_NW_Manual_1210.pdf

    Check Page 17 second paragraph
    Bottom of page 22

  • Sinister66

    LadyLiberty says:
    Thats a good question.
    I had a friend in high school from spain that referred to himself as white while his dad said they were hispanic.

  • AC

    While performing neighborhood watch duties members arent to carry firearms. If he didnt want to follow the rules he shouldnt have joined the program. And even zimmerman said he was “persuing someone”, dont try spinning it to just “walking on the sidewalk”.

    These rules mean absolutely nothing from a legal standpoint.

    He was on public property with a licensed weapon.

    The HOA can only call him a name and take away his merit badge.

    They have no legal standing to stop him from walking or stop him from carrying, nor can the local moose lodge do anything but rip up your membership card if you fail to wear a silly hat.

  • wingmann

    The reason they didn’t seat a grand jury was because if they had,there would have been a no bill and riots would ensue.
    With this special prosecutor going for 2nd degree instead of manslaughter,she knows it will be harder to convict…hence a dog and pony show trial will come and Zimmerman will be found not guilty and riots will ensue.
    You see,they think they are going to quell this rage/hate coming from the black community by having a “trial”…they will not be appeased when Zimmerman is released…riots will ensue.They should have seated a grand jury and no billed him…rip the band-aid off right then and there.Now they will put the whole thing into the pressure cooker and turn the heat to maximum….just wait till they set Zimmerman free…you got it….RIOTS.
    What a horribly dangerous game that is unfolding.

  • SR

    AC, wasn’t Zimmerman on the way to the store when he spotted Trayvon? Not that it would matter from a legal standpoint.

  • http://wyldgoose.wordpress.com Wyld Goose

    What if George Zimmerman was Black, and Trayvon Martin was White(Hispanic)? No Need to Ask Anymore, There is a Case Exactly like That ! http://wyldgoose.wordpress.com/2012/04/12/what-if-george-zimmerman-was-black-and-trayvon-martin-was-whitehispanic-no-need-to-ask-anymore-there-is-a-case-exactly-like-that/

  • StanInTexas

    Wyld,

    If the media had done only a small amount of due diligence and found out that Zimmerman was a Hispanic Democrats rather then the lily-white right-winger they initially portrayed him as; there would be no story here and Lao would have to go back to counting how many time Bob Roberts made a post to him.

  • Sinister66

    AC says:

    Your confused. Because Zimmerman broke the neighborhood watch rules he has opened the HOA to a wrongfull death lawsuit from martins parents.

    http://blogs.findlaw.com/injured/2012/04/homeowners-may-have-to-pay-in-a-trayvon-civil-action.html

    On a side note the Probable cause affidavit it floating around if anyone can find it.

  • Sinister66

    Wyld Goose says:

    “What if George Zimmerman was Black, and Trayvon Martin was White(Hispanic)? No Need to Ask Anymore, There is a Case Exactly like That ! ”

    And its not being reported on because it wont bring any ratings to the news corps.

  • http://wyldgoose.wordpress.com Wyld Goose

    We news bloggers ARE the news corps now. (and that not pronounced like “corpse” like Obama would have us pronounce it. =P)

  • AC

    Your confused. Because Zimmerman broke the neighborhood watch rules he has opened the HOA to a wrongfull death lawsuit from martins parents.

    Civil matters are civil matters and have no bearing on criminal law.

    What matters here is:

    1. Zimmerman had a right to be on that public sidewalk. The sidewalk is not a privilege.

    2. Zimmerman had a right to carry his gun. In Florida, concealed carry is not a privilege.

    3. A person who sustains a claim of self-defense against a forcible felony is immune from criminal prosecutions and civil lawsuits. Anyone who should file a lawsuit barred by self-defense is subject to sanction.

    4. The HOA is not potentially immunized by self-defense, so greedy ambulance chasers are free to file suit against it in the hope that the HOA’s insurer will pony up to make the matter go away. The greedy ambulance chasers cannot be fined and reprimanded if their suit against the HOA fails, whereas they would be fined and reprimanded if they sued Zimmerman despite a sustained claim of self-defense. Because of this, suits against Zimmerman cannot proceed until the criminal matter is settled.

    5. I am familiar with Florida law, have the same Florida license Zimmerman does, and even have a Florida gun lawyer I call to handle NFA issues.

  • LadyLiberty

    Twitter lynch mob predicts riot if Zimmerman is acquitted

    http://twitchy.com/2012/04/12/twitter-lynch-mob-predicts-riot-if-zimmerman-is-acquitted/

    This really chaps my hide well this and the fact that the DOJ does nothing to the black panthers and the other race hustler’s promoting violence!!!!

  • Sinister66

    AC says:

    “1. Zimmerman had a right to be on that public sidewalk. The sidewalk is not a privilege.”

    But:
    1. so did Martin.
    2. Zimmerman did not have the right to be pursuing anyone which he stated he was doing.

    “2. Zimmerman had a right to carry his gun. In Florida, concealed carry is not a privilege.”

    True. no one is saying different. The only thing being said is he violated neighborhood watch rules by leaving his car and having a weapon on his person.

    “3. A person who sustains a claim of self-defense against a forcible felony is immune from criminal prosecutions and civil lawsuits.”

    Yet to be proven in this case.

  • AC

    1. so did Martin.

    Martin did not have a right to assault Zimmerman.

    2. Zimmerman did not have the right to be pursuing anyone which he stated he was doing.

    Yes, he did. There is no law against him altering his course to be concurrent with Trayvon’s. It is a public sidewalk. He may go where he pleases without prior authorization.

    True. no one is saying different. The only thing being said is he violated neighborhood watch rules by leaving his car and having a weapon on his person.

    Damn, you’re stupid. Those rules mean nothing in this case. The HOA cannot restrict his right to use a public right of way or his right to carry a licensed concealed weapon. The HOA can’t even stop him from wearing a “NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH” shirt and patrolling around, if he so chose.

    Neighborhood watch is not a licensed and restricted activity. A neighborhood watch is people who walk around. The HOA can’t stop you from walking around or set rules for walking around on a public sidewalk.

    Yet to be proven in this case.

    And if it is proven, and the ambulance chasers already sued Zimmerman, they will receive a royal smackdown due to the immunity. The HOA has no such immunity, which is why it, not Zimmerman, is being sued.

  • oldguy

    Jimbo is right you know. This country is frightening the hell out of decent whites and I think the president and his party are doomed come November. You think the rigged polls are reflecting the fear of whites from continuing this racial presidency but when the election results come in the Dems will be reduced to crying racism but they know the truth.

  • Sam Adams

    Bo Jangles says:
    April 12, 2012 at 7:41 am

    It’s cases like this one that prove the Clan wasn’t so wrong after all. It’s time they came back to life.
    ___________

    The Clan was the action wing of the Democrat party. If you are suggesting that then, like now, the democrats are calling for/supporting lawless activity, aka taking the law into their own hands, you would be correct.

  • lao

    Nice attempt at spin there sammy.

    bo said …the Clan wasn’t so wrong after all.

    That means bo approves of lawless activity, particularly against the group who were the traditional targets of the clan.

  • Clingtomyguns

    Be interesting to see which side Florida’s substantial Jewish community (Zimmerman’s father is Jewish) and it’s substantial Hispanic community (mother is Hispanic) will take when the NBPP, the Revs., ferral blacks and Mainstream Media start inciting black rioting and lynching of a Hispanic Jew who acted in self-defense right before the eve of the election.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2122245/Trayvon-Martin-case-George-Zimmermans-brother-defends-father-attacks-Obama.html

  • StanInTexas

    Loa and other,

    First, it is Klan, not clan.

    Second, the KKK was the terrorist arm of the Democrat party. Democrats are by their very nature COWARDS and must get others to do their fighting for them. Now it is Sharpton and Jackson and the NBBP doing the dirty work for the Democrats.

  • StanInTexas

    Clingtomyguns, the Hispanic community has already determined that Zimmerman is WHITE and they will be siding with the NBBP in any riots or killings.

    And the Jewish community, being the good little servile Democrats that they are, will remain silent.

  • lao

    Klan with a K is correct.

    The Klan Today

  • Clingtomyguns

    Stan – Yep, it’s was a loaded question. Those who claim to speak for Hispanics (their version of Rev. Al’s) will always side with street goons. I really wonder though about Jose Six-Pack and those with a little more intelligence like Cuban refugees and Puerto Ricans. Foolish baby-boomer Jews apparently never learned from their ancestors about street mobs of Kristallnacht:

    “When Hitler attacked the Jews
    I was not a Jew, therefore I was not concerned.
    And when Hitler attacked the Catholics,
    I was not a Catholic, and therefore, I was not concerned.
    And when Hitler attacked the unions and the industrialists,
    I was not a member of the unions and I was not concerned.
    Then Hitler attacked me and the Protestant church —
    and there was nobody left to be concerned.”

    From Martin Niemoller’s Address to the United States Congress in 1968 and which appears in the Congressional Record, October 14, 1968, page 31636.

  • Sam Adams

    lao says:
    April 12, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Nice attempt at spin there sammy.

    bo said …the Clan wasn’t so wrong after all.

    That means bo approves of lawless activity, particularly against the group who were the traditional targets of the clan.
    __________

    No spin required or attempted. Bo apparently approves of the Klan’s unlawful activities, just as the Democrats, today, are showing their approval for unlawful activities. The Klan killed blacks without benefit of trial, just as the New Black Panthers call for whites to be killed without benefit of trial today. It is the same hate, spawned by the same democrat party.

    Another example is Robert Byrd (D-WVa), who wasn’t just an ordinary Klan member; he was one of the leaders. http://thebustednut.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/kkk-byrd.jpg Democrats run away from their history because it is revolting to civilized people. In a similar way, Democrats refuse to acknowledge that the Mother of Planned Parenthood was in favor of eliminating the black race. And even today, democrats defend a woman’s right to sacrifice her innocent, unborn child for virtually any reason, yet complain and legislate against capital punishment for those who have committed horrible crimes.

    You have a morally indefensible position on most topics.

  • lao

    Dizzy yet sammy?

    Since you like history, check out this former Grand Wizard of the KKK. He followed a rather typical political path. He was a Democrat until 1988 and a Republican thereafter.

    David Duke

    Check out the article he highlights on Zimmerman being charged. Whose side do you suppose he is on?

  • StanInTexas

    David Duke also said he supports the OWS movement, Lao.

    Oh, and you left out the part where Duke was tossed out of the Republican party, while Byrd was a celebrated and respected member of the Democrats until he died.

  • SR

    Stan, David Duke also supported Cindy Sheehan, he’s anti-Semite and a Holocaust denier.

  • lao

    I see the Republicans tried to prevent him from running for president in 1992. He ran as recently as 1999. Duke also claimed that thousands of Tea Party activists had encouraged him to run for President on this year’s Republican ticket.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, REALLY? The Tea Party wantged him to run for President?

    I don’t suppose you have a link or anything that resembles PROOF of that, do you? And don’t let the fact that David Duke did not even attempt to run for President in 2012 stop you from lyiong further.

  • lao

    stanwee, try to read and comprehend.

    I said Duke also claimed. He chose NOT to run.

    Maybe you could regard this with the same gravity you apply to his “support” for O.W.S.

  • lao

    oops, bold fail.

  • StanInTexas

    Oop, another LAO FAIL.

    I asked you to provide proof, Lao. When did Duke claim this? Give a link, Lao!

  • lao

    Here you go stanwee.

    David Duke For President

  • StanInTexas

    YouTube? Seriously? I guess you expect me to click on that link like you expected any of us to click on your KKK link earlier.

    I’ll just add this to my ever growing list of LaoLies. You are nothing if not predictable, Lao!

  • lao

    And here’s the reference on Duke’s own website.

    Will Duke Run For President?

    He is seriously considering entering the Republican Party primaries for President of the United States.

    Thousands of Tea Party Activists and many others have urged him to run for President!
    He believes that he has the support of the rank and file Tea Party Movement just as he had support of both the Republican conservative vote and Democratic hard hat vote in Louisiana. Over the past few weeks, since the release of his, “David Duke Speaks to the Tea Party” video, thousands of Tea Party activists have urged him to run for President.

    Happy now?

  • StanInTexas

    You are getting better Lao. It only took three requests and you whining to get you to provide the proof that you should have given the first time you were asked.

    I’ll remove this one from the LaoLie list. But the list is very large and long, so this one won’t be missed!

  • lao

    Poor stanwee eats crow.

  • Festivus

    I suspect the filing of 2nd degree murder charges is more a product of politics rather than an indication there are facts to support it. There ‘s been tremendous pressure to bring charges. The public evidence suggests this is a reach.

    There is a small window of time between the end of the 911 call to the time when a witness apparently saw Martin hit Zimmerman and then get on top of him and continue what sounds like a very serious assault (beating his head against a concrete sidewalk).

    That is a critical interval of time that essentially holds the key to who was the aggressor. We may never know, but Zimmerman’s claims have been consistent with the public evidence so far.

  • Festivus

    I forgot to add, with respect to the HOA, it’s my understanding that Zimmerman was something of a self-appointed watch person for this community. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t passively approved or condoned by the HOA in this capacity, but whether he was acting officially in this capacity on behalf of the HOA is not clear as I understand it.

  • Bob Roberts

    MY GOD: LOOK WHO’S ENGAGING IN TRIAL BY BLOG AND LEAVING OUT A FEW STEPS!

    Like the ones where competent authorities saw clearly, in the beginning, there was no reason to arrest, let alone charge, Zimmerman.

    Like public outrage is the only thing that has changed since then, the only thing that caused one prosecutor to step aside and another to be appointed, the only thing that caused THAT prosecutor to file questionable charges.

    Anyway, lao’s obsession with all things Zimmerman and his own foray into “trial by blog” can be traced in these posts in this thread and many other posts in other threads:

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 7:59 am

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 8:46 am

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 9:01 am

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 9:06 am
    As expected, the moonbattery Trial By Blog continues.

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 9:10 am

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 9:30 am

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 12:57 pm

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    Since you like history, check out this former Grand Wizard of the KKK. He followed a rather typical political path. He was a Democrat until 1988 and a Republican thereafter.

    [Here lao admits that Democrats were the KKK members and, once they wised up, some left BOTH the KKK AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY! Of course some of them just did the leaving without doing the wising up, perhaps, others were smart enough to leave the KKK without being wise enough to also leave the Democrats – we can review those on a case by case basis. Nice, also, how he cherry picks the few KKK members who wound up as Republicans – many more stayed Demorcrat!]

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 2:14 pm
    Duke also claimed that thousands of Tea Party activists had encouraged him to run for President on this year’s Republican ticket.

    [Naturally lao believes everything he hears/reads, etc. – he’s that stupid, but we know that already!]

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    [As stan points out in his post following the above, pretty much every post lao makes is a fail!]

    [LIKE THIS ONE:]

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    [Oh yeah? In how many states has he campaigned? How many delegates has he won? In how many states will he appear on the ballot? Didn’t some guy named Pat Paulson “run for President” too? And some guy named, get this, Vermin Supreme!]

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    [Gee, according to lao, David Duke said it so it MUST be true, eh? I wonder if lao is as dedicated to everything else David Duke ever said? yaTHINK?]

    lao says: April 12, 2012 at 3:00 pm

  • Bob Roberts

    It is very likely the only reasons Zimmerman has been charged are:

    1) Putting him through the ordeal of an unnecessary and unwarranted trial, as abhorrent as it is, will give the public a chance to breathe and step back from the race baiting of Obama, Sharpton, Jackson and the other usual suspects.

    2) Zimmerman also needs closure, perhaps, and a NOT GUILTY verdict, certain based on any non-manufactured evidence (I expect we will be hearing about/seeing surprise “new witnesses” who will tell stories totally inconsistent with the physical evidence at some point.) that exists, is just what the doctor ordered. He will never get over the fact he ended a human life – you never do – but at least he will get closure.

    3) Zimmerman no doubt feels responsible, even though he isn’t, for the rising tide of black on white crime attributed by the perps to this case. I wonder, has he perhaps been pushed so far that he might even alter his own story and lie in order to seek punishment the media and the race baiters’ incessant chattering might convince him he deserves?

    4) We really need to take this issue out of contention for Obama and company as they intended to ride it all the way to and through the election. They can’t run on his record, his accomplishments, unless they admit that he’s ruining the country and pauperizing not only the middle class, but especially PEOPLE OF COLOR, BLACKS IN PARTICULAR. For if you check THE FACTS (you know, those things lao abhors), blacks are MUCH WORSE OFF since Obama took office.

    5) If the trial concludes as it should with a result of INNOCENT, you know that Holder and Obama will hit Zimmerman with a slew of “civil rights” charges even though none are warranted. It’s best that we have a new President and a post housecleaning (with multiple criminal indictments, starting with Holder) justice department before this case is decided.

    6) Finally, even lao admits that, once the proper verdict is rendered, we’re going to have race riots. Oh, of course he cynically pretends he was just joshing. One of the few times I’ve see him say something honest here, when he said, “Now we have to wait goodness knows how long, for Zimmerman to be found not guilty for race riots to break out.”

    True dat!

  • Bob Roberts

    North Korea rocket breaks up in flight Breaks up? I wonder why!

  • Sinister66
  • Bob Roberts

    The lies begin:

    “… where he was profiled…” – they’re already trying to insert a racial aspect where none exists.

    “… and to wait for the officer…” – THIS IS A LIE – The 911 dispatcher did not say that prior to the point where Martin started running, according to Zimmerman, towards the “back gate”. After Zimmerman lost sight of Martin at 2:35 in the 911 call, as Zimmerman was returning to his car to wait for the officer(s) was the only time this came up. Prior to that the only thing that came up was when the dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following Martin, Zimmerman said “yeah”, the dispatcher said “You don’t have to do that, OK” and Zimmerman, moments later, gave up the pursuit and turned to return to his car. He hung up and, apparently, that was the time Martin chose to confront and attack him.

    “… he instructed Zimmerman not to do that.” – LIE. He did NOT “instruct Zimmerman” anything. He said, “You don’t have to do that, OK?” This was not a command or instruction, it was clearly an INFORMATIVE not DECLARATIVE statement.

    Furthermore, moments later Zimmerman decided to take the dispatcher’s advice, broke off the pursuit and went back towards his vehicle.

    Martin’s mother claiming the calls were from Martin? CONTRADICTED BY THE EYEWITNESS WHO ACTUALLY SAW & HEARD ZIMMERMAN CRYING FOR HELP AS MARTIN WAS VICIOUSLY BEATING HIM, ATTEMPTING TO MURDER HIM.

    Zimmerman had reasonable fear of imminent death and his only way to save himself was to shoot Martin, so he did.

    End of story, end of case.

  • Festivus

    Just out of curiosity (maybe AC knows something about this), is the 2nd degree murder charge an all-or-nothing verdict, or would the jury be given the option to reduce the charge to manslaughter in the alternative (presuming a guilty verdict of some sort)?

    If it’s an all-or-nothing proposition (the jury cannot convict Zimmerman of a lesser charge), the prosecution has their work cut out for them to say the least.

    He’s not going down on murder #2 based upon what we know so far. Manslaughter is a stretch also.

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  • Sam Adams

    Will Duke Run For President?

    He is seriously considering entering the Republican Party primaries for President of the United States.

    Thousands of Tea Party Activists and many others have urged him to run for President!
    He believes that he has the support of the rank and file Tea Party Movement….
    _____________

    I suspect that Duke also has the support of Herman Cain, and favorite of the Tea Party, Lloyd Marcus.

    This is almost as believable as reports that the KKK supported Hillary against Barack.

    Thanks for the laugh.

  • AC

    Just out of curiosity (maybe AC knows something about this), is the 2nd degree murder charge an all-or-nothing verdict, or would the jury be given the option to reduce the charge to manslaughter in the alternative (presuming a guilty verdict of some sort)?

    The jury has the right to convict him of a lesser included offense. The judge will instruct them on what conditions might produce manslaughter instead of murder.

    The jury instruction will be robust. A similar situation is what sprung so many crooks from death row, back when the Supreme Court decided that a lack of jury instruction for lesser includeds, designed to turn the trial into an all or nothing proposition, violated a person’s right to due process by creating juries which convicted of undeservingly tough charges just because they were sure the criminal was guilty of something and would rather overpunish than set a guilty man free.

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  • chaz

    I sure hope for God’s sake that George Zimmerman’s lawyers aren’t pushing for a plea bargain. It’s not right to make one man out as the scape goat for the current racial tensions today.

    I fear this man is being railroaded… and if such is the case I fear this sin will blemish the Escutcheon of Florida.

  • Sinister66

    Bob Roberts says:

    dispatcher said officers were on the way at 1.32 of the call before martin started running. Also the shooting happened 35 yards from zimmermans truck. Zimmerman said he was attacked at his truck. But the drug 35 yards through the apt complex?And as stated before no one but the prosecuting and defence attorneys have seen all of the evidence.

    Someone was looking for maps of the area. this site also had interesting info.

    http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/the-missing-230-and-deedees-testimony

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