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Apr 18 2012

Ford Sells Zero Focus Electrics in Two Months

One great thing about the free market is that it doesn’t waste resources on ideological malarkey, because there is no coercion involved; if people don’t find something useful, they aren’t going to pay for it unless bureaucrats force them to. For example:

Ford Motor Co. sold about 12 Focus Electrics in December and January to fleet customers — and none in February and March, said Erich Merkle, a Ford spokesman.

If there have been no sales at all for two months, why does Ford continue to manufacturer absurd moonbatmobiles that literally no one wants? Because we no longer have a free market:

Total sales [of electric cars in the USA] last year were 17,425, which is less than 0.1 percent of the U.S. car and light truck market.

Nonetheless, automakers show no signs of pulling back their multibillion-dollar bets: They need electric cars to meet tough new fuel-efficiency standards. About a dozen new plug-ins and fully electric cars will go on sale in the next year.

That is, automakers are making cars they know perfectly well no one will buy despite massive government subsidies so that on average their vehicles will conform to absurdly draconian standards imposed by the flakey authoritarian ideologues in Washington. If this prevents them from making a profit, fine. The flakey authoritarian ideologues will bail them out with our money.

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  • Piker

    Manufacturing needs to tell the government to stick their cafe standards in their ass. Keep govt. regulations out of the market place.

  • Bill T

    Wait until the yutes discover the charging cables unattended!
    http://2coolfishing.com/ttmbforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=425023&stc=1&d=1317423104

  • AC

    Dolts.

    My Prius goes over 600 miles on one tank of gas, which I don’t even use in town anymore after spending a mere $2700 (install included) on an aftermarket battery pack which will pay for itself in a few years.

    Up yours, Islamist oil sheikhs.

    Government mandates fail yet again. The free market is finding the way forward.

  • Sinister66
  • AC

    Fix it again, Tony.

  • whotothewhat

    Now if they made a car with a giant key that you would turn to wind it up, I might buy one…

  • Jimbo

    A key word up there is fleet. Fleet customers are folks like police departments, rental car companies, etc.

    When you think about fleet vehicles and their uses, along with maintenance – they just aren’t practical.

  • TED

    (This may seem off topic – It’s not – The last paragraph says it all.)

    John F. Kennedy held a dinner in the white House for a group of the brightest minds in the nation at that time. He made this statement: “This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone.”
    “When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe .”
    >>Thomas Jefferson<>Thomas Jefferson<>Thomas Jefferson<>Thomas Jefferson<>Thomas Jefferson<>Thomas Jefferson<>Thomas Jefferson<>Thomas Jefferson<>Thomas Jefferson<<
    Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
    If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property – until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

    As we all know, all levels of government are now corrupt and that is on both sides of the fence. democrat and Republicans alike are selling out the American people.

  • TED

    (?? Here’s that middle part again??)

    The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

    Thomas Jefferson

    It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world. (and our nation!)

    Thomas Jefferson

    I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

    Thomas Jefferson

    My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.

    Thomas Jefferson

    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.

    Thomas Jefferson

    The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

    Thomas Jefferson

    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
    Thomas Jefferson

    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

    Thomas Jefferson

  • SNuss

    Don’t worry about low sales. If ObamaCare is ruled Constitutional,for the next step, “The Messiah” will mandate the purchase of electric cars.

  • Sinister66

    Jimbo says:

    Good catch

    Actual sales to individuals were several thousands higher then the chevy cruz.(the other p.o.s)

  • chuck in st paul

    I still don’t understand the Constitutional authority for the federal government to dictate my vehicle gas mileage.

  • chuck in st paul

    AC says: – April 18, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    According to my math your $2700 cost will require 135,000 miles to break even. (50mpg vs 40mpg for a non-hybrid, $4 a gallon)

    Your car should be ready to recycle right about then as hybrids don’t seem to last much more than 100,000 miles before something major needs complete overhaul such as the battery pack.

  • Anon150

    Let’s cut to the math and throw the anecdotes back to Reader’s Digest.

    http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/blog/2012/04/savings-come-slowly-for-hybrid.html

    “Buyers who choose Nissan’s all-electric Leaf ($28,421) over its approximate gas-powered equivalent, Nissan’s Versa ($18,640), will likely wait nearly 9 years until they break even, according to a new report by The New York Times that examines the cost of fuel efficiency.

    For drivers of the Chevrolet Volt ($31,767), the wait is even longer— 26.6 years.”

    Yeah. That Volt is gonna last that long and gas prices are going to stay the same as they are now.

    And I am the Queen of Romania

  • http://theobservatorium.blogspot.com The Watcher

    The picture at the top makes me think of all the pictures we see of people driving down the highway with fuel hoses hanging out of their fillers.

    What happens if/when the same thing happens with one of those electrical ‘hoses’? Flying sparks? And I bet they’re a whole lot more expensive to replace than the hose from a fuel pump.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    AC
    My F350 diesel gets around 18 to 20 mpg
    (of course while pulling loads of 12 to 24k around)
    I also own equipment which consumes from four on up to ten gallons per engine hour.
    The point is that you are paying for the high cost of fuel with every other purchase you make as well.
    http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/consumer-price-index-bumps-gas-prices-blame
    Here is an example of the broken window fallacy on steroids
    http://www.triplepundit.com/2012/04/high-gasoline-prices-creating-jobs-growing-economy/comment-page-1/
    Never mind the dollars missing from the economy to pay those higher prices
    Never mind all those other products manufactured from crude.
    Never mind the higher cost to transport those goods
    His proof is in his link, where he points to record sales of the Prius, 28,711 cars sold and up 54 percent, or about 7000 cars.
    Furthermore in 2010, America consumed about 125 billion gallons of gasoline
    http://americanfuels.blogspot.com/2011/02/2010-gasoline-consumption.html
    This is down from a peak of 136 billion in 2004
    So by these numbers, the economy according to the great economist Bill Roth was being “stimulated” even in low price years.

  • GM Car Of The Future

    ** yawn **

    :-)

  • AC

    According to my math your $2700 cost will require 135,000 miles to break even. (50mpg vs 40mpg for a non-hybrid, $4 a gallon)

    Your car should be ready to recycle right about then as hybrids don’t seem to last much more than 100,000 miles before something major needs complete overhaul such as the battery pack.

    No non-hybrid will get 40 unless it is a hypermiled tiny European death box.

    The best you can hope for is 30 from a Yaris, which is smaller than a Prius, and way too small to be considered safe. The cargo room is crap, too.

    The battery pack I installed is not the battery pack which comes with the car which enables gasoline hybrid driving.

    My battery pack charges from the wall via 120V AC.

    I don’t use any gas on in-town trips, which means my city driving is not funding Islam, is not contributing to the trade deficit, and will continue unimpeded by oil embargos or gasoline rationing from a moonbat president during a national crisis.

    A Prius is also not a tiny death trap of a car. Since I’m single, I pulled the back two seats out, and I have more cargo space than most SUVs.

    Fleet Priuses of the same model year are still going strong at 250k miles.

    The Prius was built with a failure-resistant CVT. It also lacks many other typical points of failure, such as timing belts and accessory belts.

    When I’m driving in all-electric mode, there is no wear on the engine because it is not operating.

    Stop and go driving is what kills engines, and my engine won’t be doing any of that.

    Engineering wise, the Prius is by far the most reliable gasoline car on the road.

    I get 20+ (20 rated, about 32 the way I drive) miles out of 4 KWh. At grid prices, that works out at about 11 cents per KWh, but I’m not billed by the grid. Even if I were paying grid prices, I’d only be paying about 2.2 cents per mile in energy costs.

    A typical economy car at 25mpg pays 16 cents per mile in energy costs.

    The payback period makes it worth it, but that wasn’t the main reason I bought what I bought. I’m content to be self-reliant in the event of interruptions to energy supplies. I’m also pleased to no longer be contributing to Islam or to the trade deficit.

    The point is that you are paying for the high cost of fuel with every other purchase you make as well.

    That’s definitely true, and shame on Comrade Chairman and Helicopter Ben for letting it get to this point.

    The biggest thing I haul around regularly is golf clubs and gun cases.

  • Jimbo

    You guys are missing the point!!!

    You HAVE to put billions of dollars into Al Gore’s pockets in order to SAVE THE EARTH. Hello-o!

    The jobs of global warming scientists are on the line. Don’t you have ANY compassion???

    Polar bears!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You HAVE to DESTORY the environment with nickle-cadmium batteries and spend more doing it for the FREAKING POLAR BEARS!

    I’m so ashamed – I have a globe-killing SUV made in Korea which only gets 28 mpg. I need to be re-educated at taxpayer expense… Maybe even SHOT by a compassionate and extremely tolerant liberal.

  • Sam Adams

    http://www.energyandcapital.com/articles/ge-electric-car-opportunity/2073

    It was a little over a year ago when we first got the news.

    One of my “guys on the ground” shot me a quick email about it. And by the time I finished reading it, the story was all over the Internet.

    Jeffrey Immelt, CEO of GE (NYSE: GE), had single-handedly changed the demand dynamic on electric cars when he announced the billion-dollar behemoth had put in an order for 12,000 Chevy Volts — and was planning to equip GE fleets with 25,000 electric cars.

    Today, new electric cars are finally rolling onto GE parking lots. And according to an internal memo, GE management is really pushing this electric vehicle (EV) program….

    But why would GE, which doesn’t even make electric cars, lead a pack of automakers on such a tour?

    Because GE’s got some serious skin in the EV game, that’s why.

    Although GE does not make electric vehicles, it does make electric vehicle charging stations.

    And unlike today’s standard plug-in charging systems that take about 12 hours to charge a vehicle, GE’s WattStation can do it in as few as four.

    GE’s been very busy over the past few years cultivating relationships with car manufacturers and battery suppliers.

    The company is one of the largest shareholders of battery maker A123 Systems (NASDAQ: AONE), and last year, they did a deal with Nissan to explore new ways to promote the widespread adoption of electric cars…

    GE has also inked deals with EV company Better Place, which will allow GE charging stations to be compatible with Better Place’s EV infrastructure.

    So GE accounts for a large chunk of the electric cars that are being sold because it makes charging stations and batteries for those cars.

    Hummmmm…..

  • Sam Adams

    AC says:
    April 18, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Engineering wise, the Prius is by far the most reliable gasoline car on the road.
    ______________

    When the government was subsidizing hybrid car research, the big three automakers were all participating. When that money dried up, they dropped the topic like a hot potato.

    Toyota, on the other hand, was worried that a US carmaker could come up with a big technological advance, thus they invested their own money in developing the Prius.

    A clear example that the private market is much better/more efficient at innovating new ideas than government/government sponsored research.

    BTW, for much the same reason, if you want a Natural Gas powered vehicle, Honda is the only supplier.

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  • SNuss

    If you live in areas with cold winters, the problem with electric vehicles is that the battery power will only last half as long, or even less(your heater/defroster is electric, too), and in sub-zero temps, the battery may not function.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    Engineering wise, the Prius is by far the most reliable gasoline car on the road.
    AC
    I always buy the “best” as well
    It’s still a mechanical contraption, only as good as it’s weakest part.
    I’ll see you at the parts counter
    ———-

    The payback period makes it worth it, but that wasn’t the main reason I bought what I bought. I’m content to be self-reliant in the event of interruptions to energy supplies.

    You will still need tires, brakes (plus the tools to repair them) engine and transmission oil, antifreeze, brake fluid, ect ect just to keep it on the road.
    Plus who will maintain that road ?
    (A Prius is not known for off road performance)
    I have no clue whether you are into prepping, but I will tell you what I tell most preppers I meet.
    When the Mad Max scenario arrives, the only mode of reliable transport you will have is your feet.
    Want to truly “prep” ? Train yourself now to run marathons. You will need that endurance for your new full time job of barely scratching out a short and tough existence filled with manual labor.
    Me ?
    I have had my fill of manual labor
    I have carried my share of water
    I have weeded fields as far as the eye can see.
    I have pitched manure until the callouses on top of the callouses on my hands bled.
    In the end, I will probably vote for the guy who will promise to STOP unplugging the grid.
    (Dare I say it) even if he is not very conservative
    Maybe i am getting lazy in my old age
    Maybe today’s creature comforts have “softened” me
    But I have worked too hard to voluntarily surrender it all just to teach society some lesson
    If the cow kicks the milk can, the way I see it you have two choices
    You can upright the can and try again
    Or you can shoot the cow.
    We don’t need to invite tyranny when freedom is pushed from the table
    Tyranny is always there, waiting to replace it
    We may NEVER be able to convince society that freedom/ capitalism is in their best interests.
    But maybe there is another way.
    Why is it that the numbers opposed to Obamacare are so high ?
    After all, they are promising something for nothing.
    Is it that most people are willing to pay from their own pockets in order to choose ?
    I doubt it.
    Rather, it’s that most people have been paying attention to the examples of medical horror stories from places they have it.
    People want free care, but also the BEST care for free.
    And the left has been unsuccessful in convincing them that government can provide the best.
    I say this is a government/citizen battle rather than a Dem /Repubic one.
    And it will be easier to tell a president Romney “hell no”
    Then he can tell Boehner “no”
    Four years of nothing eventful happening would do wonders for this economy.
    I live in a state surrounded by lemmings who vote Democrat convinced that capitalism has made their lives miserable. And they tell me this after showing me their brand new Bass Tracker fishing boat.
    So I instead have resorted to playing reverse psychology on them.
    “I wonder if Obama will consider watercraft to be a priority” ?
    “A shame if something were to happen to it”

  • Sam Adams

    Ghost of FA Hayek says:
    In the end, I will probably vote for the guy who will promise to STOP unplugging the grid.
    __________

    Them plug-in hybrids don’t work very well without the grid, and a heavy duty one at that. Plugging in your “Volt” ever night, one had better pray to God that someone had the sense to keep those coal fired plants running, rather than attempting to rely upon solar panels and wind turbines.
    _____________

    I say this is a government/citizen battle rather than a Dem /Repubic one.
    _____________

    The best summation of the problem I have seen in some time. Both parties have been willing to tell citizens how to live their lives, but the dems currently are on steroids in the dictating department. Romney, for all his faults, is able to recognize when we can’t afford a department or agency. After all, he balanced the Mass. budget for 4 years without a tax increase. Not even Reagan accomplished that.

    The girls in the crowd should remember…what kind of choice will you have when the government starts supplying “free” contraceptives? After all, do you find most government supplied items (free education, etc.) to be top quality or the brand that you desire?

    “Government Supplied” condoms sounds kind of creepy, doesn’t it? wonder how reliable and leak-proof those babies will be when provided by, and inspected by unionized government workers?

  • Sam Adams

    For those who think anything “government supplied” is better than what is provided by evil capitalists….would you stand in line to buy the same vehicle that the post office uses?

  • AC

    Toyota, on the other hand, was worried that a US carmaker could come up with a big technological advance, thus they invested their own money in developing the Prius.

    A clear example that the private market is much better/more efficient at innovating new ideas than government/government sponsored research.

    AMEN!

    Toyota has nailed it down. They have an extremely reliable product with a reasonable payback period. The market is responding.

    Volt sales are still in the dump.

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