Batman and the Joker, Romney and James Holmes
The bodies in Aurora were barely cool before ABC shamelessly attempted to tie James Holmes to the Tea Party. Lefty propagandists should be careful about portraying the pointless bloodbath from a political point of view, in light of this:
After apparently speaking with law enforcement in Colorado, New York’s Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said when police apprehended Holmes, “He clearly looked like a deranged individual. He had his hair painted red. He said he was “The Joker,” obviously quote “the enemy” of Batman.” …
One high school friend said Holmes always rooted for the “bad guys” in superhero movies, which he found odd.
…and this:
In the “Dark Knight” graphic novel by [Frank] Miller, the Joker slaughters the audience of a television talk show with gas.
…and this:
If his creators see Batman as like Romney, and Holmes sees himself as the Joker, this horrific incident isn’t going to fit the “mainstream” media’s preconceived template any better than the Jared Loughner killings did.
On tips from Varla, Henry, and J.
I find it amusing you accuse ABC of using this to push their own agenda, when the only post you made about it was “THIS IS WHY WE NEED DEM GUNS!”
No memorial. No “let’s have a moment of silence for the victims”. You used it to push your agenda as soon as possible.
SHOOTER COULD BE BLACK BLOC OCCUPY MEMBER : UPSET BECAUSE MOVIE PUT’S DOWN OWC MOVEMENT ?
http://billinmissouri.blogspot.com/2012/07/new-reports-shooter-could-be-black-bloc.html
100 round barrel clips? Really? All the bullets you want on-line? I wonder if thats why…
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms
We’re only number 4… not primitive enough yet! Since the Texan Repubs 2012 platform wants critical thinking off their schools curriculum, we may get there yet.
May Christopher Nolan rot in hell for his promotion of this vulgar violence porn that he and his ilk push on the dumbed down senses of our modern western world. I hope it bankrupts the studio and the pimps that produced this “envelope pushing” piece of vileness.
Let’s all take some time out to join Jackal in an ongoing moment of sanctimony, errrrr silence for the victims of this massacre by a San Diego Occupy member. Perhaps as he/she/it spills crocodile tears, we can match them with some real tears of our own.
You know what the left – that bastion of peace and human rights – always says: one death is a tragedy, one million is a statistic.
Today in the weekend edition of the paper a columnist in the entertainment section made note of Bane being Bain Capital. Bane as the villian long before even the primaries began in the movie and begain in the comics 20 years before thatt. But I am 100% sure the talking heads will be chortling at the similarity of the names until November.
Bain Capitol, you mean with the guy that bundles support for Barky?
This reminds me of how annoying it was when the last Star Wars movie came out & all the progs were saying Darth Vader was George Bush… and I was saying “umm…. you guys must not have seen the same movie I did, because last time I checked, the left wing of the federal government/liberal media is the very PERSONIFICATION of the evil Star Wars Empire!”
Bob says: whaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
July 21, 2012 at 10:40 am
Murders per capita has us below beloved gun restricted lib paradises France, Sweden, New Zealand, Austria, and Germany. Stop drooling and start thinking.
I’m wondering if this idiot even saw the last Batman movie… or ANY of them, or read the comics, or…
I mean, the Joker’s hair is green, not red.
…and isn’t it an amazing coincidence that just as Hillary is signing away our 2nd amendment rights to the U.N., we get a totally insane gunman killing lots of people, ABC saying it’s the Tea Party and all the anti-gun folks saying “SEE? Guns kill people…” almost like it was orchestrated to (a) create a diversion and (b) gin-up anti-gun sentiment.
Why, if I was a conspiracy-minded person, I’d say this guy was a for-real Manchurian Candidate robot, programmed to go off when ordered to do so. I mean, the timing, the fact he has no other record, the seemingly random and meaningless choice of targets…
But no…nothing to see here folks. Move along.
Anon-Y-Mouse says:
They can sign whatever they want. With the 1957 case Reid v. Covert the US Supreme court established that the constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the US Senate. There is also no guaratnee the senate would ratify this treaty in the first place.
The US murder rate is largely driven by the presence of an inner city underclass. Thug on thug violence may bump up the statistics but it is not that relevant to law abiding people in the suburbs. Stay away from gangs and dont peddle dope on the corner and you will have a lot less to worry about.
Pack heat for those times when a thug goes off the reservation.
Any minute now the bleeding heart moonbat lawyers will show up to save the Joker from the chair.
Disgraceful.
and it begins….
Aurora shooting sparks gun debate — Sen. Lautenberg prepares bill
Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/329067#ixzz21Im4FDfG
I saw Dark Knight Rises yesterday and it was a fantastic movie, easily as good as the previous two installments in the trilogy. It was also had one of the most conservative messages I’ve ever seen in a big budget Hollywood movie. To give you an idea what I mean, check out this article from Big Hollywood:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/07/20/Spoiler-Alert-TDKR-Most-Conservative-Movie-Ever
Batman in TDKR is one of the biggest countermoonbats ever!
Holmes would certainly seem to be an OWS sympathizer, at the very least, considering the black-bloc garb he wore and the Bill Ayers’ style attempt at bombing the police.
In addition, it’s probably fair to conclude that he’s an atheist – atheists and islamists are responsible for most mass murders in the world over the past century or so.
Clinton has not done anything of the sort, Mouse.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp
Get educated, moonbats.
I would like to point out that in the US, any “treaty” that doesn’t make it past the Senate isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.
That said, any time a tragedy like this occurs it’s pretty much a given that the anti-gun nitwits will try to use it as a prop to advocate more bans.
Never mind that the guy was clearly schizophrenic (and thus could not own guns under current law, not that the law did any good). Never mind that he left so many warning signs that his parents guessed it was him the minute they saw the news. Never mind that, as usual, the attack occurred in a free fire, er, gun free zone. Never mind that, having booby-trapped his apartment, he should have been arrested long before this happened due to the number of laws *that* breaks.
Though I wonder how many pizza delivery guys read about that last part and went “Oh my god, I delivered to that apartment!”
“That said, any time a tragedy like this occurs it’s pretty much a given that the anti-gun nitwits will try to use it as a prop to advocate more bans.”
Just like you guys used it as a prop to advocate more loose gun laws? No, please, explain how it is different.
One rather significant difference is that an armed intervention can actually save lives, where as even more bans will be about as useful as that “no firearms allowed” sign on the front of the theater.
It’s not like the theater’s occupants could have gotten any more disarmed.
Do you think Sen. Lautenberg will be running this add to promote his bill?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr24MlreY0k
Anon-Y-Mouse says: Why, if I was a conspiracy-minded person, I’d say this guy was a for-real Manchurian Candidate robot, programmed to go off when ordered to do so. I mean, the timing, the fact he has no other record, the seemingly random and meaningless choice of targets…
I thought the same thing, as was the shooter at a McDonalds in Cali in the 80′s(?) shot up a bunch of people with a fully automatic machine gun, to gin up support to get automatic weapons banned. It worked. They passed a law banning A.W.’s. That guy was a Manchurian “candidate”, as was the leader of the group S.L.A. that kindknapped Patty Hearst. C.I.A. trained him and a lot of others in a brainwashing program in Cali. prisons. I did a college paper on Cults,Sects and Brainwashing!
Sooo, who cares?
Can you prove any of that, Joek? Also, I am still waiting on a response as to how what Republicans did is any worse then what Democrats have supposidly done with the situation.
Fucking hell, the article on a video game news site that I frequent ended with a “Our hearts go out to the families”. While all YOU, Dave, said was “DIS IS WHY WE NEED GUNS!”
No compassion. You don’t care about anyone.
No, I just made all of it up stupid. I guess I could go dig up my report and type in all of the references for ya!! Would ya like that?!! Fuck that shit. Go look it up yourself ya fuckin idiot. And every law abiding citizen should own at least 2 rifles, 2 shotguns and 2 pistols with ammo. Ya know, to help out the guns and ammo industries!!! And to stop movie theatre shootings!!! Fuck you turd jackoffff!!!
“Our hearts go out to you, but we’ll still do our best to keep you helpless as sheep to be slaughtered” vs. “This is an insult to human dignity, we should work to ensure that people are able to defend themselves from psychopaths.” Hmmm, I’ll go with the latter.
Self-defense is the only defense that’s there when seconds count. Saying “We care for you, but won’t let you protect yourself.” is like saying “We support the troops, but we want them to lose.”
Hey Jackel, you’re not even slightly good at what you’re trying to do. You and your ilk have been around since the beginning…but you’re a piker.
Still, even assholes like you get one in the ‘win’ column once in a while. I can hear it now: “Seriously Mrs. Lot…you should see what’s going on back there!”
I could be wrong about him being a diversion, but the timing on this is so obvious only a brain-dead progressive would miss it.
…and Joek has it correct. California went all pacifist after that McDonald’s shooting…so now only be bad guys can carry guns with impunity.
Just like the progressives want.
It’s on you to prove it, Joak. Give proof of what you say. I guess things like “evidence” and “truth” are foreign concepts to moonbats such as yourself, Loth.
Now Joek, there are two lessons that you should keep in mind here.
First, anger is a weapon only to one’s opponent.
Second, get in the first shot. Boot to the head.
On a more serious note, the fact that every major shooting is followed by a push for more gun control is not so much a conspiracy as it is simply opportunism. They recognize an opportunity to appear compassionate while advancing their agenda at the expense of the very people they proclaim their sympathy for, and they take it.
It is human nature to seek culpability in times of tragedy. It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one’s head and succumb. Inevitably many shall fault the sword that felled the victims of the shooter, the weapons themselves. But the weapons are merely tools performing the will of their wielder. To further fear them is redundant, to hate them, futile. Those more sensible will place responsibility with those who directed the weapons’ fire. With some fortune, they may foster this anger into purpose, and further rule their own fate by taking up arms themselves.
(A cookie for the reference)
“On a more serious note, the fact that every major shooting is followed by a push for more gun control is not so much a conspiracy as it is simply opportunism.”
That is fucking sensible. I mean, okay, I do not agree with you, but if liberals WERE evil and scary and trying to take our guns away, they would not arrange conspiracies, they would just wait for real shootings.
But, no, it’s all a conspiracy, right Joak? They obviously brainwashed James Holmes.
Like the brainwashing Joak refuses to prove.
Also, to this:
“Batman in TDKR is one of the biggest countermoonbats ever!”
Isn’t Batman the most anti gun hero ever? I guess reading comprehension is not a Republican trait. Education and college is another liberal conspiracy.
Finally, I believe I was criticized for being vulgar in the first thread of the shooting(the one that contained no sympathy or regret for the massacre). That I was living up to the left’s standards, yadda yadda.
So how civil and polite is “Fuck you turd jackoffff!!!”? Not even saying how humorous the thought of someone who writes like an excited thirteen year old girl going through college.
Oh, and one more thing.
“This is an insult to human dignity, we should work to ensure that people are able to defend themselves from psychopaths.”
There was no such thing about dignity in Dave’s post. Just “guns, guns, we need guns!”. You are all probably glad, really. You don’t CARE about people or their lives. Just another political weapon.
Not that it even matters from your side, since Colordo already lets you carry a concealed weapon.
You might make due note that I, the person who criticized your tone in said thread, have maintained a civil tone myself. Though this is mostly because I find it far more entertaining when the *other* side is cursing and screaming, especially after they just got done with some self-righteous posturing about compassion and civility. As I said, anger is a weapon only to one’s opponent.
If I cared about political power more than people’s lives, I would advocate gun control. A disarmed citizenry is far easier to control. They are more dependent on the government for their safety, and less able to take action if the government goes in a direction they don’t like. This is why medieval serfs were forbidden from owning weapons, as well as why they were oh so talented at crafting improvised weapons from farm equipment.
Government ownership of property, oppressive taxation, rule by fiat, complete civilian disarmament (or an attempt at it), nationalized production, there’s a reason F.A. Hayek called it “The Road to Serfdom”.
Again, sensible, Wilson. Except for the “THE LIBERALS WANTS TO CONTROL US” but whatever close enough.
“They are more dependent on the government for their safety, and less able to take action if the government goes in a direction they don’t like.”
So what would you do with your guns if the government went in a direction you don’t like? Actually, have you ever watched Dragnet? Joe Friday would say to change the law by voting, and staging peaceful protests. So do that. Don’t say “I want my guns in case the government goes somewhere I don’t like” unless you are prepared to go out and kill people like a certain mister Holmes. Stage a revolution if you think that way, and who will you target, who do you use your guns on?
Fred C. Dobbs says:
Really?
http://foxpoint.patch.com/blog_posts/politics-and-the-dark-knight-rises
““Do you think it is accidental that the name of the really vicious, fire-breathing, four-eyed, whatever-it-is villain in this movie is named Bane?” Limbaugh asked on his radio show. He added, “So this evil villain in the new Batman movie is named Bane. And there’s discussion out there as to whether or not this was purposeful and whether or not it will influence voters. It’s going to have a lot of people. The audience is going to be huge. A lot of people are going to see the movie. And it’s a lot of brain-dead people — entertainment, the pop culture crowd — and they’re going to hear Bane in the movie and they’re going to associate Bain.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Rush never fails to entertain.
One thing is certain: When you look at the face of this murdering, delusional fool you are looking at the face of liberalism. Pure liberalism.
How so, Bimbo?
It would be very nice to take care of things by voting, but wouldn’t it be terribly inconvenient if elections happen to be suspended and a police state implemented, and we don’t have anything to fall back on? Better safe than sorry, just ask a few million Jews. It may not happen in our lifetime, but would you want to nail in one of the rungs in a future dictator’s rise to power by disarming the citizens? I know that if I ever wanted to achieve absolute power, gun control would be one of my first moves. It’s kind of like freedom of speech: sure, we may never actually need a free press to expose a totalitarian power grab and save us from dictatorship, but do you want to risk not having one?
In the meantime, firearms are terribly useful for encouraging murderers, rapists, muggers, and other assorted criminality to seek a new career. They’re the thing that lets a four foot nothing 80lb Asian lady tell a seven foot tall 200lb bodybuilder to back off if he knows what’s good for him. Guns are one of the greatest expressions of equality in America.
So how do you explain there being less crime in the UK and Japan, where concealed weapons are illegal?
And as for the Nazi comparison, people were allowed firearms in Nazi Germany and people still allowed the cruelties to go on. Guns don’t make a difference except in the hands of the army. If you think Obama or the latest liberal boogyman you use to scare kids is going to be held off by guns, you’re wrong. No matter how good your aim, a handgun isn’t worth anything against a platoon of soldiers and a few tanks/
And you didn’t really answer my question. Who do you use the guns on in a revolution? Who do you kill? The police? The soldiers? The pencil pushers, the families of officials and people who live near government buildings? You already bomb abortion clinics, soon you will be flying planes into buildings and blowing up street corners. Before you know it America has it’s own IRA and Taliban rolled into one.
You call it a revolution. So did George Washington, but so did Osama. So did Lenin when he fought for the people, never to be again oppressed by the monarchy. That led to Stalin and a rule a thousand times worse then the Czar. Millions of innocent people were killed after that revolution. Maybe you will do better.
“So how do you explain there being less crime in the UK and Japan, where concealed weapons are illegal?”
Only an fool makes comparisons like that. The only scientific comparisons that work are where laws are changed in the SAME area, because it eliminates all other variables. And the evidence in that respect is unequivocal. Try again.
But crime has not gone out of control because civilians cannot defend themselves in those areas.
I’m being rhetorical (for libs that is a question not requiring or desiring an answer due to the fact that the answer is a foregone fact).
Why is it everytime some news outlet uses their “find a way to pin this on the right” plan and it fails miserably, we have to hear from all of these dipstick trolls?
“But crime has not gone out of control because civilians cannot defend themselves in those areas.”
Now there’s a nice example of a freudian slip. So if civilians are better at defending themselves the crime rate will go up?
What is the foregone fact, Frank?
“Now there’s a nice example of a freudian slip. So if civilians are better at defending themselves the crime rate will go up?”
I have no idea how you got that. What you and the Right says is that crime will go down if civilians can defends themselves. As is shown in places like Japan and the UK, that is not the case.
Now, seriously Frank, let’s both be rational. I think the two of us can have a serious discussion without insulting each other any more.
“But crime has not gone out of control because civilians cannot defend themselves in those areas.”
Define ‘out of control’. That phrase is entirely subjective. But the following IS objective. Crime never goes down when gun control is enacted, and it almost always goes up, even if the proportion of gun related violence goes down slightly. You don’t seem to appreciate that whether a loved one is killed via a knife or via a gun, they are still dead.
Your original statement is still a load of rubbish because your comparison using the UK and Japan is still entirely irrelevant.
Wrong. Get educated, moonbat.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/gun-control-in-australia/
The ironic part of the crime rate comparison is that if you look at where the vast majority of the United States’ murders come from, they largely originate in extremely left leaning cities where guns are supposedly banned. Detroit’s murder rate is three times as high as that of Houston, the most violent city in Texas. (34.5 vs 11.8 if you were wondering). Coincidentally, Houston is a stronghold for Democrats.
Meanwhile, El Paso, Texas is tied with Lincoln, Nebraska for lowest murder rates at 0.8 per capita. Both have what you would call “lax gun laws”.
There are numerous other factors besides gun laws that influence crime rates of course, for example whether there is a gang war going on or not. One example is that private gun ownership is illegal in Mexico, not that you could tell with Los Zetas running around in homemade tanks and toting Mexican Army rifles (dropped once, never fired).
The British and Japanese on the other hand are incredibly polite people, with themselves at least, and the Japanese in particular have little or no internal cultural tension. But if someone decided they *wanted* to start large-scale violence in either of these countries, they would find very little resistance from the helpless population, or even the unarmed police. See the riots in Britain as an example, and the corresponding rise in baseball bat sales as British citizens attempted to obtain the best self-defense their government would allow them.
As for their role as the last resort against tyranny, how about I craft a scenario you would be more sympathetic with. How about some charismatic leader disbands congress and tries to turn the US into a theocratic state. I won’t name a religion, so you can just fill in your least favorite one. They then declare following all other religions will be grounds for execution, which of course will include yours because you’re filling in your least favorite as the group seizing power.
Are you saying you would do nothing? If someone else decided to take matters into their hands and protect you, your beliefs, would you betray them and condemn them for resisting whoever happens to be in power?
There is a time for everything, and to every thing there is a season. The time for arms may not come in our lifetime, it may never come, but if it does, it will be without warning. If a people is not vigilant, they may wake up one day to discover that they are slaves, without ever knowing how they got there. We cannot afford to scrap the second amendment any more than the first.
Of course we will disagree as to what causes are worthy of taking up arms for, but I should hope we can agree that we would both want arms for the taking should the need arise.
Aurora’s Strict Gun Laws Didn’t Prevent Shooting, But If One Law-Abiding Person In The Theater Had Been Carrying One…
http://cnsnews.com/blog/ron-meyer/auroras-strict-gun-laws-didnt-prevent-shooting-if-one-law-abiding-person-theater-had
“The British and Japanese on the other hand are incredibly polite people, with themselves at least, and the Japanese in particular have little or no internal cultural tension.”
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, so unbelievably wrong. Yes! The British are all tea drinking uber polite fancy pants! And it’s not like the fucking Yakuza exist, right? The police, and people in general, in both the UK and Japan have to deal with the same thugs and criminals as Americans. Believe it or not, English criminals do not send notarized warnings to banks before they walk in unarmed and calmly request that the clerks give them the money.
Apologies, but stereotypes like that really bother me. I mean, there is TONS of cultural tension in Japan, just look at the shit between Burakumin and other Japanese.
You just don’t know jack outside American.
http://blog.doodooecon.com/2012/07/former-occupy-san-diego-member-attacks.html
96% accuracy with facial recognition
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1931195/pg1
James Holmes Black Bloc OWS Evidence? – Hate Is On the Rise
http://freenj.blogspot.com/2012/07/black-bloc.html
Black Bloc / Occupy James Holmes: Was Aurora Batman Killer Part of Occupy Extremist Offshoot?
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/51951/black-bloc-occupy-james-holmes-was-aurora-batman-killer-part-of-occupy-extremist-offshoot/
The Yakuza are largely a white-collar crime organization. If they were as bad as you imagine, the murder rate in Japan would be higher because they are perfectly capable of killing people without firearms, or obtaining firearms whether the government wants them to or not.
There is a significant cultural difference between the types of criminals they deal with in those countries and the types we have here. To assume that all people everywhere are identical, and that the only incentive to murder is the presence of firearms is naive in the extreme.
Another good example is Russia, which has banned personal firearm ownership since 1930. But their murder rate is nearly three times higher than ours.
Of course, since Japan and the UK are both island nations it could be argued that border control and enforcement are easier for them than Russia, Mexico, Brazil, and Venezuela, all countries with jackboot-tight gun control laws and astronomical murder rates, but then you would have to explain why Switzerland and Israel, nations with looser gun laws and higher rates of civilian ownership than us, have far lower murder rates. And Israel manages that while surrounded by hostile nations and getting bombarded by Hamas!
Private Investigator Names Colorado Massacre Shooter James Holmes as Occupy Black Bloc Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIHjTvFrzuE
Colorado theatre shooting suspect former Occupier in San Diego
http://www.powerlinenewsnetwork.com/?p=16998
First Home Video Of James Holmes Emerges On ABC News
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/abc-news-airs-video-of-an-18-year-old-james-holmes-speaking-at-science-camp/
Gun Range Owner Thought James Holmes Seemed ‘Bizarre’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/gun-range-owner-thought-james-holmes-seemed-bizarre/
Reports Indicate Suspect of ‘Dark Knight’ Shootings Was a Camp Counselor
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/he-killed-kids-the-same-age-that-he-once-cared-for-reports-indicate-dark-knight-suspect-was-once-a-camp-counselor/
James Holmes Had a Match.com Profile — and Woman Is Stunned to Find Him in Her Matches
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/james-holmes-had-a-match-com-profile-and-woman-is-stunned-to-find-him-in-her-matches/
Of course the latest massacre is agenda driven, as preliminary reporting has proven.
Here is a scenario to ponder: a gunman enters a theater through a door left open for him.
His true Identity is obscured by a gas mask as he proceeds to massacre a number of movie patrons none of which can actually identify him.
He is equipped with paramilitary protective attire and weapons, uses disruption tactics and know how to use the weapons. Obviously he anticipates patrons may have firearms.
Post incident, It is interesting that the captured perpetrator, hell bent on murder, would actually tell LEO’s that his apartment is booby-trapped in order to “preserve” the evidence.
He had acquired a substantial amount of ammunition, and weaponry that any normal citizen would definitely be flagged for.
He is supposedly unemployed, yet has spent substantial amounts on protective gear, weapons, ammunition, and man-traps. Things just don’t seem to add up here. Just sayin’
“The Yakuza are largely a white-collar crime organization.”
…I don’t even know how you can possibly say that. Their main source of income is sex slavery.
Honestly, Frank, you need to stop talking about stuff you don’t know.
Also, any thoughts on this? http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/526396_10151064305708748_243121378_n.jpg
Oh, and by the way, there are many other scenarios that can be played out. This hypothesis has nothing to do with a “conspiracy” so much as a probable “agenda.”
Jackel, as per your link, the government, DOJ and DHS in particular, has refused to equate muslims with terrorist. But of course you are aware of this.
“What you and the Right says…”
I was unaware you could read my mind and know exactly where I stand on the issue.
Why are you so keen on keeping people from defending themselves?
And? A white collar organization could make its money by selling slaves, crack, illegal firearms, but what sets them apart is methodology. They achieve their ends through bribery, corruption, money laundering, and front organizations, largely letting other people do the dirty work. They’re, quite simply, a mafia. They’re still evil of course, but that means they don’t run around driving up violent crime statistics the same way Los Zetas do.
One really good comparison is that Canada and Mexico both have considerably stricter gun laws than the US. Mexico’s, in fact, are even stricter than Canada’s. Both border the US, both have similarly strict border control policies, both have more left-leaning governments than the US.
Mexico is being torn apart by gang violence, Canada is not. What’s the difference?
The gangs.
Here’s an interesting bit of trivia:
Concealed carry, discharging firearms, and keeping loaded firearms in a vehicle are all illegal in Aurora, Colorado. How many of these laws did the shooter follow? Answer: none of them.
But there ARE violent gangs and criminals. Just look at the more dangerous parts of Bōsōzoku culture.
You expect me to believe that Japanese law enforcement consists of some kind of supermen who ensure flawless customs enforcement and swoop in to stop almost all crimes before they can be committed? If that was the case, wouldn’t such amazing supercops be able to do something about their suicide rate?
The reason the crime rate is low in Japan is not because of any supposed efficiency in their gun control, but instead a symptom of Japanese criminals not putting forth a great amount of effort to break those laws. Ironically, a strong organized crime presence may actually contribute to it if they believe that the publicity drawn by high profile violence is bad for business.
As far as lone psychopaths, the Japanese culturally have a greater tendency towards suicide than homicide when dealing with psychopathy. Similarly Britain already had one of the lowest homicide rates in the world before they implemented any form of gun control, and Japan likely shows a similar history.
In the US, which really is the only region that matters for this discussion unless you want a global gun ban, making guns more accessible to civilians has generally lowered the crime rate wherever it has been done. Economic theory predicts this effect as armed citizens increase the cost (in both money and blood) of crime, thus reducing the incentive to commit it. Historical statistics generally bear this out in the long run. A criminal shot dead at the scene further contributes to long run crime reduction via natural selection and the fact that a corpse cannot become a repeat offender.
Jackel, try this:
“Australia saw its violent crime rates soar after its 1996 Port Arthur gun -control measures banned most firearms. Violent crime rates averaged 32% higher in the six years after the law was passed (from 1997 to 2002) than they did the year before the law went into effect. Armed robbery rates increased 74%. Australia’s violent crime rate is also now double America’s.”
http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/IBDGunConFailure.html
I live in Australia, jacky boy. Go jump. Guns save lives.
Jackoff, You don’t CARE about people or their lives. Arn’t you dumbass liEberals always spoutin off about how abortion is good and legal, a perfectly safe form of population control?? Eugenics, I think its called??!!!! Dumb-ass liEberal democRATs!!!
@carrion eating semi-dog (jackel)
The foregone fact is: it is what libs do.
OK, why is Japan a low crime rate and gun free?
Historically the Japs have been a subservient populace, feudal lords, emperors, and very honor-centric. They also do not coddle criminals, the Jap court system has a high conviction rate {utilizing techniques not allowed in US – profiling}(85%+ according to a 2000 study, approximately 35% in same study applied to US)). And society in Japan does not tend to be forgiving of criminals, even a criminals family feels shame over the activities of the criminal. In short the society places responsibility on the criminal. Here, not so much. Crims get short sentences, no or little repercussions and society is generally forgiving (paid their debt to society), hence the recidivism rate.
That covers low crime, note no mention of guns.
As for low/no guns. After WWII Japan was disarmed to a huge degree. That coupled with the serf syndrome (see feudal lords), before guns were introduced the average schmuck did not carry a bow or a sword either, has evolved into a populace with little desire for weapons ownership. Summarized, when a population has never desired to be armed and has traditionally been under nobility rule why would they aspire to gun ownership?
A similar dynamic has arisen in the UK, however the application of liberal mindset has eroded the conviction rates and crime is still rampant, just not with firearms (weapon of choice tends to be knives) {note to coyote-lite, try seeing the parts of the UK not on the tourist routes to get a better view of life there}.
Thus ends the masters level discussion of gun ownership as applied to lord-serf culture.
But as an interesting aside (to me anyway) what was the fixation on my comments all about, you seem to have been a bit tweaked by my mini-rant, why else the little post @ 12:14 7-22, I had not posted in about 10 hours at that point.
Now a better question would be why is the crime rate higher in US cities with tight gun laws (Chicago, Detroit, DC)? Especially the crimes involving guns? The commonality with crime rates (regardless of guns) is liberality of the court system. There is also an interesting correlation with acceptance of criminal behavior. In DC, Detroit, Chicago, doing time increases street cred, in Japan it is a mark of shame.\
Jack the Ripper killed a lot of people and he did his work with a scalpel, should we ban all surgical equipment as well?
That was my one attempt at civility.
“Jackoff, You don’t CARE about people or their lives. Arn’t you dumbass liEberals always spoutin off about how abortion is good and legal, a perfectly safe form of population control?? Eugenics, I think its called??!!!! Dumb-ass liEberal democRATs!!!”
I totally believe you are someone who went through college.