Aug
08
2012
An Abortionist Defends His Trade
Abortionist and active political donor (to Democrats, of course) Ashutosh Virmani explains why we require his trade — to rid the world of “ugly black babies”:
About 13% of the female population of the USA is black, accounting for 36% of abortions. Nonetheless, 90+% blacks will continue to support the Democrat Party, despite the genocide it is inflicting on them through state-sponsored abortion.
On tips from Artfldgr, TaterSalad, AC, J, and Bob Roberts.
I know many conservatives take issue with abortion but for the most part I don’t really have a problem with it.
In most cases, the folks who would have the proclivity to get abortions in the first place are moonbats.
So the abortion mills at Planned Parenthood actively work to thin the moonbat herd.
Darwinism indeed.
Black babies are cool. Why would he say that. I think they cute as heck.
Black baby or white baby – it’s still murder.
And I’m sure he gives quality care to the mothers of those “ugly black babies” he’s slaughtering, too.
Oh, I forgot, I heard the doctor is a big Democratic donor.
J I agree,
I identify as a Conservative but I do believe in abortion. I doubt that any of those people on the Indian doctors porch have an adopted child. If they do I very much doubt it is black.
I do not want to regulate other peoples behavior nor do I want to support it. I certainly do not want my taxes to pay for such black children to be fed, educated, housed, and then incarcerated
It’s very telling that right out of the gate, one of the first things Obama did, on January 23 of 2009, was to quietly sign a bill to fund abortions all over the world and then immediately began funding Planned Parenthood in Mexico and Kenya with our tax money:
“Pro-life activists were weighing their options Monday, January 26, after President Barack Obama signed an executive order ending the ban on federal funds for international groups that perform abortions or provide information on the option.
Obama reportedly signed it quietly, without coverage by the media, late on Friday afternoon, January 23, a contrast to the midday signings with fanfare of executive orders on other subjects earlier in the week.
The decision was welcomed by abortion rights groups, but condemned by several conservative organizations.
“When we wake up every morning to a deepening financial crisis, it is an insult to the American people to bail out the abortion industry,” said Charmaine Yoest, president of ‘Americans United for Life’, in a statement.”
http://www.worthynews.com/4154-obama-approves-funding-abortions-worldwide/
Muay:
I certainly DO want to regulate other people’s behavior when they’re chopping up children.
The solution to miserable lives is not murder. How the hell can anyone look at a fetus in the womb and predict whether his or her life will be worth living?
So your tax dollars are used to “feed, educate, house and incarcerate black people,” and the solution is to head ‘em off at the pass and kill them before they can speak? Nice how the libs screw up the system and then say, “NOW you’ll agree to abort these people, won’t you?” and you go along with it.
They got to you.
Muay Tyson: You say you identify as a conservative but favor abortion. You are no conservative.
Please take 33 minutes out of your life and watch this powerful film: The 180 Movie. If you watch this and still think abortion is a choice, there is a special place in hell for you
I am a Libertarian minded Conservative. I am NOT a Christian, but more a Jeffersonian Deist. I oppose any and all Federal or State funding for abortion. I do not personally condone abortion BUT the fact is 99%+ of people having abortions DO NOT have a Conservative mindset. But Muay and J are right. If anti-abortion zealots had their way and ALL abortions had been carried to term instead, this country would already be toast. You would have a crime problem that would make Chicago and Philadelphia today seem safe. You would have racial tension and strife an order of magnitude beyond it’s dismal state even now. And lastly, the US wouldn’t even be close to what it is today, because Conservatives would have been out-voted long ago. There would be no Tea Party, only a handful of “new minority” (read White) enclaves in small towns struggling to recall the good days when there was relative peace and harmony in the land, and a semblance of a Free Enterprise system. That nightmare vision is still coming, what with the Imperial Federal Government importing hordes of illegal aliens to displace the current tax-paying and productive citizenry. It would already be here if abortion were illegal.
Now all you tolerant folks go ahead and label Muay and others like me as “not Conservative” but you would be wrong. You let your personal emotions about the wrongness of abortion overwhelm your common sense about the reality that leftists are keeping their own population suppressed. Which is fine by me. I don’t have to answer for their abortion “choice” when it comes time to meet my maker.
Um…. wow. For once I don’t know what to say.
The Orobouros of the Left, perhaps?
Lurker1, all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do NOTHING.
If you do nothing to stop the horror that is abortion in this nation, I assure you that you WILL have something to answer for!
Lurker:
A country without abortion is not a hypothetical world. We had it. Your hero Jefferson lived in that world. It does indeed work. Because (as even libertarian thinking suggests) when you take away that lazy escape route, people will indeed behave themselves. The few that don’t and have illegal (so-called “back alley”) abortions IN NO WAY equal the number of abortions we have when it’s legal.
Give ‘em an out and they take it.
The laziest libertarian thinking is “people are doing it anyway, so make it legal,” and that’s idiotic.
Atheist hero and major idiot Richard Dawkins has taken the step that soon they’ll all take: “We should have post-birth abortions (killing toddlers) because they still aren’t people yet.” I suppose I’m just supposed to say “Hey, if you don’t like killing toddlers, then don’t do it.”
Muay
As a “conservative” you share the views of an infamous leftist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEja-1emRic
“Such human weeds clog up the path, drain of the energies and the resources of this little earth”
J
I don’t like the thought of exterminating people for their political views.
Death toll by Communism
110 million
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM
Abortion counter
http://www.numberofabortions.com/
Worldwide since 1980
1.2 billion
Shouldn’t we be rid of Moonbats by now ?
Stan:
He’s a libertarian. Doing nothing is their entire platform.
Because (as even libertarian thinking suggests) when you take away that lazy escape route, people will indeed behave themselves.
RKey
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When the value of a human life is reduced to that of a fly, why are we surprised when they breed like them ?
As ghoulish as it may be, the Roe effect is real. Had every pregnancy been carried to term, then as Lurker1 pointed out, the nation would have been overrun with crime and, based on demographics, probably plunged into Marxism. How many people would be dead from crime or the installation of a Marxist strongman sufficient to please the urban underclass?
That is what is known as being between a rock and a hard place. Either abortionists kill the unborn, or criminals and tyrants kill us.
There has to be a third way. I’m not sure what it is, but at this point, I wouldn’t object to universal, 100% taxpayer funding of IUDs and Norplant for any woman who wants it. As much as I despise the thought of paying for a moocher’s unnecessary nookie, the fact remains that we cannot afford any more moochers, economically or politically.
The cost for several years of birth control is less than one month of food stamp benefits for a moocher spawn.
Do we have any other option at this point?
10 year old charged in violent home invasion – stories like this will continue as long as the moochers keep breeding like rabbits. As a culture, we’re too far gone to be brought back from the brink by personal responsibility.
AC, there is no possible way to know that. If you think that abortion has saved us from being overrun with crime, you must also admit that without abortion, we may have already cured cancer, world hunger, and have peace in the Middle East.
A child being born right now, anywhere in this world, has an equal chance of being a criminal or a hero.
I’m not validating Sandra Fluke’s position. She’s a whiny moonbat capable of paying $9/month for her birth control, and even if she ran short one month, she understands the consequences.
The problem is with a different demographic.
The problem we have is with a group which will spend the last $9 on the EBT card on a pack of Newports and a 40, then go without BC until the next month’s welfare check. Result: pregnancy.
The problem we have is with a group of alleged “men” who act as little more than sperm donors. They will not wrap their johnson because they do not like the way it feels. They will say anything to go without. They will promise to pull out (and lie), they will say that she can’t get pregnant on a certain day of the month (a lie). Some of them will just be aggressive and not give the woman a choice. Result: pregnancy.
Some of them will get drunk/high and forget about the consequences. Result: pregnancy.
Some of them don’t care about the consequences even when they’re sober. Result: pregnancy.
Some of them throw all caution out the window when their hormones make them behave like animals. Result: pregnancy.
Remember this when ever more of your paycheck is siphoned off to pay for food stamps. Remember this when a mob of looters is breaking down your door three days after the food stamps didn’t go out.
Every civilization is nine meals away from anarchy. That does not bode well for us when we have over 100 million people on Federal welfare alone.
The statistics are sound. Abortions tend to concentrate among the ignorant and the poor. The people responsible enough not to breed welfare-addicted future felons are responsible enough to not get knocked up in a bad situation in the first place.
That’s not true. A child born to a crackhead in Camden, NJ has a much higher chance of being a criminal than a child born into a stable, self-supporting married two-parent household in the suburbs.
We know this to be true. We stand behind the traditional nuclear family for a reason: it produces results.
I find it somewhat offensive that this moral equivocation would put the chances of my (hypothetical) child’s future success/failure on par with one born in Compton or Carol City.
I’m not saying abortion is the answer.
What I am saying is that we need to stop breeding felons and welfare-addicted socialized voters if our nation is to remain strong in the long term.
I will refer back to the often-quoted list of Communist Party goals:
There is a reason why they’re going after the next generation.
“Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.” – Vladimir Lenin
” Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever.” – Vladimir Lenin
We are facing a demographic Cloward-Piven assault.
If we fail, the result will be a Marxist-Leninist system.
Kill the government safety net. Defund the buzzards.
AC, there are many stories of children born into desperate conditions achieving great things. To consign them all to death on the unproven theory that they will all be a burden to society is wrong and horrid.
And YES, all children born everywhere have an equal chance at greatness, because we are all born with a spotless future.
Look at these two statements…
1) We should kill this child because he will grow up to be a criminal and a burden on society.
2) We should let this child live because he has the potential to grow up an become a great doctor who will save many lives.
If you believe that statement #1 is true for any given child, then statement #2 is also true for the same child!
Got ammo? You’ll need it. Cutting them off would be instant, overnight SHTF.
I never said they should be butchered in the womb.
Greatness can come from anywhere, as can criminality, but on a large, statistically-valid dataset, it does cluster. Believing otherwise is just as naive as believing that you’re equally likely to be mugged by an English gentleman in a top hat as a black teenager in a gang hoodie.
The statistics don’t lie. Why don’t you believe in the traditional family?
I never had kids because I never could be certain I’d be spending the rest of my life with one woman. Anything else is a sub-optimal environment for raising children.
Decades of moonbat policies are coming home to roost.
If you don’t believe me, then I invite you to walk the streets of Camden, NJ.
Try not to be condescending, AC. I do believe in the traditional family, and I demand you either prove i don;t or apologize.
The part of your entire argument I categorically reject is “The child has a great chance of growing up in poverty and being a burden on society, so let’s just kill it now and save us all the trouble.” That is not much different that what Margaret Sanger wanted Planned parenthood to be and do.
Abortion is a scourge on this nation and it must be stopped. There are other way of dealing with poverty and crime that do not include the killing of innocent children.
Did anyone who is arguing that Roe has benefited our society stopped to think that we are currently living in a cultural cesspool that is teetering on the brink of communism? Or that there might have been some positive benefit to people doing the right thing and bringing their pregnancies to term? You know, a greater respect for human life in general, as well as a more serious approach to the serious matter of human sexuality? Maybe we’d all be better off right now if we hadn’t taken the “easy” way out.
Well how many times do I have to say that abortion is not the answer?
What I can’t accept is the equal opportunity stuff. That doesn’t match up with measured disparities in achievement and criminal offense rates.
Why is it that nothing bad ever happened to me in Brighton or Scarsdale? Why did I have to go to Jersey City to receive a very special .38 caliber gift in the leg from one of your precious, equal-opportunity youth achievers?
Sorry, the current breeding rate and patterns among the welfare-dependent socialized underclass is not sustainable. It will end in economic collapse, Marxism, or both. The parasite eventually kills the host. Producers can only handle so much mooching and looting before becoming overwhelmed.
Suppose that you are president, or for the sake of argument, a benevolent dictator. What do you do with a place like Camden which is little more than a felon factory? Do you encourage it, because those youth are just as likely to succeed as their properly-raised counterparts from the suburbs?
Aborting them is not the answer. It would be rather swell if the problem stopped getting worse in number.
I don’t like the thought of exterminating people for their political views.
Either do I.
But in most cases throughout history where folks are exterminated for their political views, they are exterminated by someone else.
In this case, moonbats are opting to exterminate themselves.
This is the only case I know of where a political faction is choosing to commit genocide on themselves.
It probably warrants a new word.
Idiocide? Moronocide?
Darwinocide?
No matter how well conservatives raise our typically modest number of children, the nation still moves in the wrong direction when communist-inspired promiscuity and multi-generational welfare dependency reproduces at an even faster rate – and that doesn’t even include the hordes of illegal aliens being imported by Comrade Chairman and the Democrats.
If we wait until the right time to have children, then we have two, and our children wait until the right time to have two of their own, in the meantime, La’quanda’s six will each have six of their own, with most of that brood remaining dependent on welfare. A few might escape. Most won’t, and the problem will get even worse with each passing generation.
This has nothing to do with race. It is about the children with their heads screwed on straight, who will grow up to be law-abiding producers, being outbred by new members of the Democratic welfare plantation.
The Democrats have spent so much time engineering multi-generation welfare dependency for a reason. When the welfare system is finally overloaded, and yes, we’re almost there, the whole system collapses, making way for the installation of socialism.
This is Cloward-Piven 101.
If the counter-plan is to send well-educated, intelligent, professional educators into urban hellholes to implore teen girls to respect themselves and wait until they’re ready for a family – good luck with that. Popular culture, rap music in particular, has already won.
Meanwhile, the birth rate in the college-educated suburbs is already well below replacement.
The demographic trend is what it is. Forming opinions and judgments about it doesn’t change what already exists.
There’s an easier way.
We are all pretty much experts in moonbat behavior, and that’s really all it takes. Understanding moonbat behavior.
We know that they really don’t have political positions of their own. They are merely hyper emotional reactionary contrarians.
Whatever position the right takes, moonbats will take the opposite, just because they need to do something to show that they hate the right.
We saw the perfect expression of this with the Coffee Party. It was their reaction to the Tea Party, because Coffee is the opposite of Tea, or something. Nevermind that the left has a multitude of activist organizations that work for their wacko causes at any given time. They had to react in a contrarian nature to the Tea Party.
This pretty much goes for everything they think they believe in.
Case in point. Barack Obama says that marriage is between a man and a woman.
http://spectator.org/archives/2012/08/08/does-the-left-really-care-abou
Yet moonbat silence in reaction to it is deafening.
Some CEO from Chic-Fil-A says the same thing, and moonbats loose their heads. Why? Because the CEO was a conservative, and moonbats hate conservatives. So they have to be the opposite.
With this in mind, all it will take is for conservatives to embrace my point of view here.
That abortion is okay, because it primarily exterminates moonbats.
I would be willing to bet almost anything, that if this view were embraced by conservatives on a large scale, moonbats would change their position overnight and be opposed to abortion themselves. Just to be contrary.
J, it sure would be fun to try.
Wow. Pretty stunned by the so called conservatives joining rank with murder. Candy coat it as much as you want it’s very apparent what your stance is. It’s tempting to sterilize the feral so we are not swarmed with the same wild animal. I believe this boils down on your religious views rather than political? Amen. So now I ask you, do you believe you have a soul or are you a miraculous compound of cells fortunate to excell beyond those of let’s say a chimp or a lion? Being a Christian and a conservative I tell you murder is murder. Control is control. You can’t spin it any other way no matter how hard you try. Let the children be born and make its way into and through this mad world we dwell. It’s not yours or mine to decide the outcome of each newborn or even decide who breeds. This is an all equal opportunity for EVERYONE to choose their own path in life, not yours. You make your choice and let each other do the same. We are all in this together and sides we must choose but never prevent a new soul from his/her body. We will all be held accountable one way or another. As a Christian I am told not to judge but thanks to our Christ I can be forgiven for that. But to prevent a new soul from getting a body is something far more wicked and if you can’t understand that than I send a prayer your way.
these people are fucking sick
http://twitchy.com/2012/08/08/sick-leftist-mom-calls-abortion-a-blessing/
what happened to the oath to “do no harm”
Conservative folks, let’s face it. We are losing the battle of the cradle.
What I can’t accept is the equal opportunity stuff. That doesn’t match up with measured disparities in achievement and criminal offense rates.
This has nothing to do with race. It is about the children with their heads screwed on straight, who will grow up to be law-abiding producers, being outbred by new members of the Democratic welfare plantation.
AC
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I was patiently waiting, but hoping you wouldn’t try to make some kind of an inferior genetic argument.
But what I don’t understand is why you agree with the left that freedom is a limited commodity ?
In fact, the more people that show up on this earth, the more imperative it is to nurture the talent, and creativity required to increase standards of living.
Judging by your comments, I think you would agree that it is the welfare state which ultimately requires population control measures to remain viable
However, at the same time this control starves the very beasts of burden (producers) of both the talent and demand required to feed this hungry state.
It’s actually the producers that end up (for a variety of reasons) with less children, yet the parasites amazingly multiply even faster
If abortion is the counter to this, something went terribly wrong
(see Europe)
They STILL need to import labor (that breeds like flies) to keep the welfare grindstone turning.
It’s the WELFARE STATE that fuels the abortion industry.
It’s the abortion industry that the state is relying on to keep welfare viable.
Yet it is these types of population control measures that are aging China and turning Europe demographically into the next Caliphate.
When two producers turn 70 with 1.2 children, you have a problem
Without the welfare state, there would be no means in which to stack crack babies up like chordwood
Without abortion, birth control would hold value.
More people would reproduce based on their means again.
Their “means” would be defined by their ability to produce.
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Ghost of FA Hayek says:
Europe has a different demographic base. For starters, they have a lot more cultural hegemony. We have a unique set of problems here.
I said already, for like the fifth time, that abortion is not the answer.
I am merely observing that the ratio of moochers and looters to producers is growing, not just because of Comrade Chairman’s anti-jobs agenda, but also, reproductive patterns.
In the US, producers tend to have smaller families than those being paid by welfare to have more and those whose underlying ignorance results in unplanned pregnancies.
We’ve had decades of legal abortion and the problem is worse now than when Roe was decided. I’m not implying cause and effect, here, but if abortion were the solution (however ghoulish), then we wouldn’t be in this mess. Clearly we haven’t aborted our way out of it, nor can we.
If the welfare class continues to grow faster than the producers then it is only a matter of time before the economy collapses under the burden and degenerates into socialism.
The communist agitators have pushed their radical agenda (see the Communist Party goals) of the destruction of the traditional family structure as a way to breed an army of dependent, socialized citizens at a faster rate than the reproduction of the producers.
The birthrate in producer households is below the replacement rate of 2.1. Meanwhile, the moocher households are cranking out new comrades at a staggering rate.
How do we expect to win in the long run when half of children are living in households below the poverty line?
The underclass will continue to breed at prodigious rates even if the welfare state is trimmed back.
While some welfare queens get knocked up only because of the bump in their check, most of these pregnancies result from ignorance, apathy, or willful disregard of sexual consequences. It’s shortsighted to believe that a curtailment of government cheese is going to stop a socialist brood mare from swilling a few 40′s and getting her freak on with whichever partygoer was most recently released from lockup.
Shutting down the welfare gravy train will only discourage the professional moochers. The idiots will still continue to mooch from private charities or go out and commit crimes to fill the void.
The overall number of people is not the problem. I never said freedom is limited. The problem is with the percentage of producers in the overall population falling to the danger threshold.
J, it sure would be fun to try.
Try it.
Go into some leftist internet forum as a troll essentially, but not obviously so.
The put forth the position I laid out above.
You’ll probably get silence for a short while, as the Kollektive confers as to what their response ought to be.
But eventually I’m willing to bet they’ll start disagreeing with everything you say if they think you’re a conservative, as 14 year olds always do.
AC
I would like to think we could agree that the Welfare state is the root of the problem
However we must ask which came FIRST, Snap, or the brood sow.
The depression was rough, but the American people did survive DESPITE the burden of the New Deal
And the “great society” has now sunk in through pants and flesh, and down to bone
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If the welfare class continues to grow faster than the producers then it is only a matter of time before the economy collapses under the burden and degenerates into socialism.
I would edit that to say the economy will collapse, period. Socialism is what we will have to thank for it
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. It’s shortsighted to believe that a curtailment of government cheese is going to stop a socialist brood mare from swilling a few 40′s and getting her freak on with whichever partygoer was most recently released from lockup.
You would be surprised how effective the slap of personal responsibility across the face can be.
But you are correct that some will never catch on. But Darwin needs SOMETHING to clean his cannon with.
We could have enacted a Chinese style one child policy in the thirties to relieve childhood hunger.
And it would have worked, there would be less children to experience hunger
But it sure would have taken the “roar” out of the fifty’s, and as a result LBJ would have had to ask the Chinese for the free cheese
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Shutting down the welfare gravy train will only discourage the professional moochers. The idiots will still continue to mooch from private charities or go out and commit crimes to fill the void.
I bet the private charities will have a thing or two to say about that
Most criminals commit crime because they can afford to.
Drugs, gangs are a lifestyle choice.
Welfare literally buys them a lifetime of “time”
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The overall number of people is not the problem. I never said freedom is limited. The problem is with the percentage of producers in the overall population falling to the danger threshold.
Then we address the problem by giving people a reason to produce again.
Also, we light the wagon on fire.
!00 million Americans now on Federal assistance
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/over-100-million-now-receiving-federal-welfare_649589.html
AC
This will eventually all come crashing down, whether we want it to or not
A depressing future, indeed. There are few words of comfort available, but these come close, “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
Those who choose to not exercise their Second Amendment rights will be easy pickings for the looters when the collapse comes.
They might learn some responsibility after they have bred five or so felons, but by then it will be too late.
99% responsibility is insufficient. All it takes is one swimmer in one moment of irresponsibility to put another Trayvon on the welfare rolls.
What we have is a deficit of values and responsibility.
They can discourage it somewhat, however the sheer number of locusts will siphon the aid away from those who need a short-term hand up. The deserving will become lost in a sea of habitual moochers.
Just wait and see. The crime rate will be going through the roof when the underclass becomes too broke to do anything but go out and commit burglaries.
Produce what? The brood sow with six baby stampers, no HS diploma, and no marketable skills can’t produce anything except more Democrat voters.
What are these people going to do?
He’s a libertarian. Doing nothing is their entire platform.
What’s wrong with doing nothing? Nothing is always an option.
I can’t tell you how often I’ve pined for the day when Congress would actually in fact, do nothing.
In fact nothing would please me more than Congress ceasing to do things for me.
Abortion Is Not the answer..Its time to reinstate Workfare..get the Parasites off the Dole..When they have to work for the KIDS and feed them on their Own they won”t be so apt to spread em”"This will increase the Tax Base and give the Produces a Break! Make it Mandatory if your able Bodied..you Will Work or Not Eat!
Good Biblical Lesson Here! Semper Fi
why do you think the children of moonbats (if allowed to survive pregnancy) will automatically become moonbats themselves?
What’s the difference between an libertarian and an anarchist?
(pause)
Exactly!
SPECIAL HISTORICAL NOTE: Margaret Sanger, who founded Planned Parenthood (which is now the official abortion-factory subsidiary of the d-cRAT socialist party), was an avowed racist and bigot who believed in eugenics, and wanted blacks and other minorities eradicated by giving them access to abortion and other reproduction limiting methods !!!!!!!
geeknerd:
why do you think the children of moonbats (if allowed to survive pregnancy) will automatically become moonbats themselves?
Precisely! We’ve had nearly a half-century of legal abortion, 55 million victims… and are there fewer progressives in the country? No. And yet, STILL the “pragmatists” try to tell us there’s a “simple equation” where progressives will abort themselves out of existence. “Just wait… it’ll happen… any second now… OK, so the number of progressives keeps growing… that’s just a meaningless trend… the ‘Roe effect’ will kick in… any minute now…”
Anyone who promotes a “Roe effect” that crime has gone down because of abortion is 1.) oversimplifying statistics to get a desired result, and 2.) living in some sick world where they want to eliminate their enemies through murder of their enemies’ children. “Hey, one of those aborted 55 million might have stolen my car stereo! And I got him before he could commit the act! Ha! …And the others who died with him? Just collateral damage.” God save us all from the Psychic Pre-Crime Abortion Unit!
I didn’t justify abortion by noting the Roe effect. I merely pointed out that the 55 million abortions we have had tend to cluster in lower income demographics, single parent households, inattentive mothers, partiers, and other groups predisposed to above average criminality.
We could reduce crime by sending every petty shoplifter and litterbug to the electric chair. It would work – but it wouldn’t be right or just.
Imagine where crime would be if the projects were even more crowded than they already are. That is a testament to the rot imposed on us by welfare-minded socialists.
I don’t want to terminate innocent children because of statistical pre-crime. I want to see children saved from the hopelessness and despair of the welfare dependency brought on by socialist policies.
RKae
Whether an aborted baby turns out Liberal or Conservative is a crapshoot at best.
Heck, I even know a few Socialists who are at least semi productive.
Some with a sense of self righteousness believe they are supporting the “rest” who can’t do it, but most of them are simply hypocrites, voting themselves the bling (while accusing the rest of us of greed)
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Produce what? The brood sow with six baby stampers, no HS diploma, and no marketable skills can’t produce anything except more Democrat voters.
What are these people going to do?
AC
The first thing I would do is stop the promises to her of some utopia
Secondly, she should be made uncomfortable.
Very uncomfortable
The public cesspool her kids are sent to should be bulldozed to the ground
The 18,000 and some odd cost per pupil would pay for one hell of a private education
If we should choose not to eliminate all social programs immediately, we could at least make a job a REQUIREMENT of welfare.
Or how about this;
why not offer cold hard cash in lieu of welfare bennies
Perhaps the equivalent of what they would have gotten, PLUS the savings in administrative costs
for one year
Then taxpayers are off the hook forever.
What self respecting welfare queen could refuse cold hard cash ?
I still don’t see what a third generation Democrat factory has to offer. The same goes for the worthless sperm donors who knock up dozens of women and leave them.
These people should be pulling their weight, but because they can’t, they’ll probably start looting and robbing if the bennies get cut off.
Looks like a no-win situation.
We’ve all been skirting around a few major things. First 100% employment is not feasible in a free market. Once employment nears the 100% mark wages will skyrocket causing a wage-price inflation spiral, worker production will fall since if anyone is fired they can get a new job the same day, no fear=no work ethic. Workers will soon for superunions which where the workers wield far more control over companies than the owners.
Remember that unemployment jumped from 4-5% to 8-9% during Bush’s term. It’s not because people got twice as lazy. It’s mostly that those jobs that were tied to the real estate bubble are gone and any prosperity of yesteryear was money taken from the future. Now that we’re in the future we’re paying for all those bad land deals and overbuilt Mcmansions.
We ignore that a lot of the people on welfare rolls are working poor
The truth is because there are only two jobs that are always hiring regardless of skill level or experience: criminal and agitator. The world of crime never threw out a job application. There’s always room for one more soldier in the communist revolution.
If we cut off abortions the left will have a permanent voting advantage. Cut off the voting rights of welfare recipients and disenfranchised, the jobless will go openly hard left communist. A lot of children will be be sent to orphanages and foster homes, devoid of stable family and living off of, well you know.
If we just cut off the benefits that increases the ferocity of the communist sentiment with every starved baby. Maybe there will be rioting, maybe there won’t.
If there is the producers are at a disadvantage, no matter how many guns they buy. Producers go to work and leave their property unguarded. Additionally guns are first strike biased. Nobody (I hope) covers their fire zones and ducks for cover when moving from room to room. A drive by while we water the lawn, a sniper round through the dining room window, a shotgun barrel pressed against a darkened bedroom window, anything but the least coordinated attack and our guns become a non-factor. Guns don’t kill people, people do but gun’s don’t care who gets killed. Don’t expect superiority in firepower to save you, the second amendment applies to all of us equally and looters will have numbers and first strike on their side.
Even if we fight them off, then what? We coldly accept that X million poor people have to die every X years so that we can remain free? Once the bodycount of the politically/financially inconvenient becomes a real thing it becomes hard to say “capitalism isn’t perfect but at least it didn’t kill as many people as (insert left wing dictatorship here)”.
If there are no riots then what? People still want to survive. Wizards aren’t creating empty factories. Business owners aren’t anxiously peeking out the window looking at Trayvon, hoping he’ll come inside and fill one of the scads of jobs they have unfilled. These people will leave the ghettos and become squatters and start communes on illegally occupied land or become ragpickers living in garbage cities. We’ll become a 3rd world nation no with more welfare or no welfare. MAYBE all the producers will gain servants and things will get all weird and Victorian. Of course the class system of Victorian times led to a discontent which led to a wellspring of communist movements worldwide.
The truth is “abortion” WAS a detriment to the leverage of the poorest non-producers. 100 years ago low tech hygiene and medicine meant that 200-250 children out of a thousand would die, focused on society’s poorest demographic. If a woman couldn’t afford a baby she’d probably abandon it or smother it and bury it with the other two she lost due to cholera or typhoid or scarlet fever.
The survival rate of of modern children is not natural and society has never adjusted to it fully.
Even more worrying is another constant technological trend. How much human labor does society need to get by? In the most primitive societies in the hunter gatherers get just enough food to feed themselves and their family. Some time in the future, barring the end of the world all production will be handled by robots. In the meantime we’ve been finding ways to provide more using fewer people. Assembly lines, automated phones, agriculture: these are all ways for one person to provide multiple people with a good or service that once took more people to provide. Once we streamlined basic needs (one farmer producing as much as 1000 hunter-gatherers) we streamlined luxuries and entertainment (one movie/album gets mass produced, taking the place of 1000 stage plays, operas or live singers).
Our fried meat heavy dollar menus and increasing obesity already give testament to hitting a consumption threshold. At a certain point between alll hunters and all robots technology will allow 20% of the population to provide all of the luxury and necessity for 100% of the population. The remaining 80% is only necessary by virtue of their consumption. Eliminate the 80% and 80% of the producers have nobody to produce for, thus becoming the new 80% of pure consumers.
The question is who would want to be in the 20%?
Maybe the horrid brilliance on the Cloward Piven strategy is that you just have to let technology hit a certain threshold and market fluctuations will do the rest.
We’ve had nearly a half-century of legal abortion, 55 million victims… and are there fewer progressives in the country? No
Actually, yes.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/141032/2010-conservatives-outnumber-moderates-liberals.aspx
But the point here is not whether or not you agree with the position I posted.
Hell, I don’t really agree with it.
The point here is to play reverse psychology with the 14 year old mentality of the average leftist.
It works pretty good actually.
So if you don’t like abortion, just start writing on some blog about how great abortion is, and if you advertise yourself as a conservative, moonbats will instinctually take the opposite position, as 14 year olds always do, and become opposed to abortion themselves.
You have to treat moonbats like the teenage children they are, in order to deal with them.