30,000 Dead Registered to Vote in North Carolina
Barack Hussein Obama has failed so miserably as president that even with the continued support of the “mainstream” leftist media that effectively installed him in office, there is only one way he can win reelection — to fall back on the skills developed during his ACORN days and cheat. The voter fraud in November will be massive. A glimpse at the tip of the iceberg in a crucial state:
A Raleigh-based group devoted to reducing the potential for voter fraud presented the N.C. Board of Elections on Friday with a list of nearly 30,000 names of dead people statewide who are still registered to vote.
The Voter Integrity Project compiled the list after obtaining death records from the state Department of Public Health from 2002 to March 31 and comparing them to the voter rolls.
“Mainly, what we’re concerned about is the potential [for fraud],” said project director Jay DeLancy. “Since there is no voter ID law in North Carolina, anybody can walk in and claim to be anyone else.”
This is why liberals are willing to sacrifice their last shreds of credibility to defeat voter ID laws, as recently demonstrated by black-robed apparatchiks in Texas.
The Voter Integrity Project describes itself as a nonpartisan group aimed at clean, fair elections. It supports requiring photo ID to vote, which Republicans typically support and Democrats typically oppose.
The reason: essentially all voter fraud is committed by Democrats, who as the bad guys have the advantage of not having to play fair. You can’t expect the party of mass theft, parasitism, baby killing, and degeneracy to care about right and wrong.
On tips from Wiggins and Bob Roberts.
… and yet when we look at the actual facts (i know, I know, reality has a well-known liberal bias that is devastating to your case), we see that voter fraud as you appear to envision it is essentially unheard-of.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/08/13/3760122/voter-fraud-found-to-be-rare-survey.html
or this one:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/election-day-impersonation-an-impetus-for-voter-id-laws-a-rarity-data-show/2012/08/11/7002911e-df20-11e1-a19c-fcfa365396c8_story.html
or this one:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/31/opinion/persily-voter-id-laws/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+(RSS%3A+Most+Recent)
Sorry guys. You set up these imaginary boogeymen, but they aren’t real. Like so much of the GOP’s platform, you are fighting imaginary foes in imaginary battles. And sane people laugh at you, but are also dismayed, because you people get to vote like the rest of us.
Educate yourselves. Learn about the things you discuss. Don’t take at face value the ridiculous things you are presented with. Try to be a better member of our electorate.
I can dream…
Troll
Never mind leaving dead voters on the registration rolls violates federal law
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Help_America_Vote_Act_%28HAVA%29_of_2002
If a registered voter dies that the registered voter under the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 each state’s election authority MUST coordinate with the respective agency handling birth and death statistics (i.e. Department of Health and Human Services) in removing these voters as soon as possible from the voting rolls when the death is reported.
Secretary of State Mark Richie of Minnesota makes essentially the same argument as you do, while one of his own staff stands accused of voter fraud
http://www.looktruenorth.com/357-elections/acorn-a-other-leftist-organizations/19831-fraudulent-drivers-licenses-threat-to-national-security-contribute-to-welfare-and-voter-fraud.html
I looked up a few things:
In the seven consecutive presidential elections since 1980 (1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004) North Carolina went Republican.
In the most recent presidential election (2008) North Carolina went Democrat.
North Carolina has 15 electoral votes.
In what was the second closest race of 2008 (behind Missouri), Obama defeated McCain by approximately 14,000 votes out of approximately 4.3 million votes cast, yielding 49.7% Obama versus 49.4% McCain.
30,000 dead voters? Really??
Enough to change the outcome, at least at the state level.
Or maybe it was simply all those nice North Carolinians just voting for the black guy. . . .
@louie –
OK, again… there were not 30,000 fraudulent votes.
If a person is dead… see if you can follow me here… they cannot, in fact, appear at the polling place and cast a balloot.
So, clearing out the deceased from the voter rolls is a reasonable thing to do. But assuming that the walking dead are all 1) existing, and 2) voting Obama is incredibly stupid.
Educate yourself. Learn about the things you discuss. Don’t take at face value the ridiculous things you are presented with. Try to be a better member of our electorate.
Any idea what those dead folks were registered as?
The problem is that having unclaimed slots on the voter rolls (“unclaimed” here meaning people who do not exist, are dead, or are otherwise not actually eligible to vote) opens room for fraudsters to stuff the ballots without getting caught.
They count up the votes, the number of votes is less than the number of registered voters, everything looks legit… but 30,000 of those voters aren’t supposed to be there, and are potentially concealing fraud. After all, if who is registered on the rolls doesn’t matter at all and receives no scrutiny, then the entire point of registering at all has been defeated.
Wholesale phantom voter fraud is somewhat tough at the polls in all but the most corrupt polling stations.
The usual MO is absentee ballot fraud. Vote fraudsters will collect and sometimes buy these blank ballots from the residents at the deceased’s address. It is a huge problem here in South Florida.
realitysliberalbias says:
If a person is dead… see if you can follow me here… they cannot, in fact, appear at the polling place and cast a balloot.
Hey, I know an easy way to resolve this. Let’s make it a law that you have to show a state-issued picture ID in order to vote. That way, it can be determined that you are who you say you are, and you are NOT trying to vote in place of a person who has died.
I mean, who could oppose something that make this much sense?
Minnesota wrote the book on election fraud
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111967642552909.html
HA HA HA HA! Read the linked article – it doesn’t even support what Blount is saying, and I think he knows it
“DeLancy said his group has found evidence to suggest voter fraud in these numbers, but will not quantify how much until he is able to do more analysis. Most cases of what look like a dead person voting are likely just administrative errors, such as a son named Junior voting in his father’s name instead of his own.”
So even he admits most aren’t fraud, and he’s gone public with the claim BEFORE running the numbers? Sounds like this group is unreliable and unprofessional, not worthy linking ro you blog readers unless you want to mislead them.
But this is the best:
“Earlier this summer, the organization sued to have 528 Wake County residents it claimed were not U.S. citizens removed from the voter registration. The county elections board investigated the complaint and found that all of the voters were citizens and eligible to vote.”
So there’s a lot of credibility there.
This happens almost every time I read this Blount character’s links – he’s always lying or distorting. He writes OK, so I assume he reads well.
I just think he’s a liar who will say anything for his little political party, which means he has really low character. Just be honest and hash it out.
Stan, you are known for being dimwitted, so I will do this nice and slowly for you:
“I mean, who could oppose something that make this much sense?”
How ’bout the voters – legitimate voters – who cannot afford to go get said ID? In Texas, for example, there are places in the state that are 250 miles from a location where you can get the ID. You have to take the time off of work, pay to get there, and pay again ($22, in the case of TX), for the ID itself.
Now this is where things like “knowledge” come into play, but I’m gonna give it a shot – define “poll tax” for me. Then give me 2 sentences on how they were used, and why they are gone.
You really do represent the least-educated end of this already poorly educated crowd. Aren’t you ever ashamed of yourself for being so actively uninformed?
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Look at the sources the TROLL at the top of the thread is quoting. Unimpeachable Tellers of Truth, all of them!
LOL
By the way, if voter fraud is not a problem, according to RATS, then why worry about Voter ID?
After all, you you have to show ID to get into the DemonRAT Convention.
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Wow, the RATS are really INVESTING into this thread.. I KNOW why. No need to wonder.
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StanInTexas: I mean, who could oppose something that make this much sense?
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Well, yeah it just makes too much sense, Stan. If you got any sense to begin with, you’re not a liberal.
And then there is the fact that demonRATS love dead people voting. And illegal aliens. And and and..
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If they’re truly that needy and destitute, then they’re already on food stamps, which requires an ID.
Food stamps must be racist. /sarc
AC misses the point – you might also benefit from a little history lesson. Go learn about poll taxes.
You people are so staggeringly uneducated… yet you form angry opinions based on your total lack onf knowledge…
Voter fraud, as you suggest it, is not a real thing. But voter suppression is indeed a real thing. In fact, try this video …
now, tell me that the douchebag GOPer in that video – using his very own mouth – and, in theory at least, the brain behind it – talking about disenfranchising voters on purpose to sway the election is NOT an enemy of democracy.
Who exactly is the Stalinist party here?
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
You contend that ID is a racist conspiracy to suppress the most reliable left-leading voters; to wit, poor minorities.
That assessment is stunningly incorrect. The voters who are the most reliable Democrats (the entitled) already have ID, otherwise they can’t collect their entitlements. If they aren’t collecting entitlements, then they must not be destitute yet eligible.
I’m not politically correct, so I’ll come out and say it: welfare recipients should be suppressed for a conflict of interest. No taxes, no ballot. We already suppress felons and illegal aliens. That will take a Constitutional amendment, but it must be done to stop the conflict of interest currently destroying the republic.
I don’t need to advocate voter ID as some end-around.
Funny, you don’t seem all that concerned about destitute people being unable to exercise their Second Amendment rights for lack of ID. How about it: anyone buying a gun or ammo can simply pinky promise that they are who they say they are. How about it?
Love that casual elitism/racism on display there – that tacet assumption that all Dem voters are just inherently on welfare.
You know that is incredibly stupid, right?
And i like the way you in no way address the GOP critter admitting to disenfranchising voters… if it were Obama saying that, you would call him Stalin. Like 50 times in 10 seconds, in fact. FauxNews would blow it up headline style, and on and on…
Ahh, but it is your team … guess you aren’t actually in favor of democracy (small ‘d’) after all… what a fucking douche.
“No taxes, no ballott.”
Could not agree more!
Try this loony lefties.
A Navy buddy of mine (retired) went to his polling place (no ID required – PA) to vote. He was told he had already voted. This was 30 minutes or so after the polling station opened. He was allowed a provisional ballot. The local acorn office had shipped in 40-50 people (most appeared homeless) shortly before start time. Do the math. BTW he was told by the investigator that evidently one of the earlier voters must have given my buddy’s name by mistake.
In a strange circumstance (I personally do not believe in them) I went to my precinct to vote in the primary here in KS. I was unable to vote because some person had changed my party affiliation to the green party (presumably via the internet). I was allowed a provisional ballot, but likely it was not counted.
Related:
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/07/10/philly-voter-fraud-allegations-race-voter-id/
No, it isn’t. The people who can’t afford something so basic as transportation or so cheap as ID are highly likely to be on welfare, and almost certainly eligible.
You are complaining about the cost of ID and comparing it to poll taxes. Your complaint is economic. We have a word for economic assistance given to people in economic trouble: welfare.
If $20 once every five or so years breaks the bank then how is that person paying rent or buying food?
ID is not disenfranchisement. ID prevents disenfranchisement by preventing the dilution of legitimate ballots from honest voters.
Why don’t you ask prominent Democrat William Tweed about that.
This country was not founded as a democracy. Move to Europe if you believe that the 51% have the absolute right to relieve the other 49% of their liberty and property, at will.
Really? BOss Tweed is the best you’ve got?
Look, that GOP asshat came right out and said it – he is deliberately disenfranchising voters in order to sway the outcome of an election. He says it. In his own voice. Using his own words.
I’m pretty sure that you cannot then go back and say “no he didn’t” on his behalf – the video is still there, and he still appears quite proud of the fact that he is deliberately disenfranchising people in order to give His Mittness the edge.
Is this a democracy, or is it not?
Are you personally in favor of democracy, or are you not?
These are fairly fundamental questions, guy.
Those who don’t learn from the Tammany era are doomed to repeat it. We’re supposed to be beyond stuffed ballot boxes.
Why are you frightened by honest elections?
We are not a democracy, and as I said, if you believe that the 51% have the absolute right to do whatever they please to the 49%, then you should move to Europe.
“Move to Europe if you believe that the 51% have the absolute right to relieve the other 49% of their liberty and property, at will.”
PS – nobody – not one single human – is paying higher taxes under Obama than under W. You know that, right?
You further know (you’d better know, anyway – i hate how uneducated you people seem to be) that taxes are, at this moment in time, as low as they have ever been, right?
So… who remembers Clinton being called a socialist every 2 seconds? Reagan? Eisenhower? All had higher tax rates. I’m sure you knew that… right…? And we sure all seem to be better off now than we were under any of those guys… right?
Yeah. I thought not.
You ever get sick of being incorrect every time you try to communicate?
Photo IDs are easy to obtain and damn near ubiquitous in the United States. In fact, in just about every state a photo ID is required to drive, purchase utilities, take out a mortgage, purchase a firearm, purchase alcohol or tobacco, apply for a job, hunt, fish, attend college (and many high schools!), and join the military.
If you cannot do any of the above, you’re probably either A: not over 18, B: not a US citizen, C: incarcerated, or D: institutionalized. All of which mean: ineligible. So if you don’t have any form of photo ID at all, chances are you don’t have any business voting anyway.
Obama’s first major piece of legislation brutally raised taxes on smokers, who tend to be from lower income brackets. That has been a lie from the beginning of his presidency up until today.
That’s laughably false. Do you realize that, at one point, federal income taxes were unconstitutional?
Most states release felons with prison-issued photo ID.
Now that I think about it, mental institutions probably issue photo IDs to their patients too. So there you go, Democrats get to keep two of their largest constituencies. How’s that for compromise?
Dems would still complain that an asylum policy of issuing an ID to each resident discriminates against voters with multiple personalities.
Taxes are as low as they have ever been while they existed, ass.
So again… the overall economy look better than it did under Clinton? Under Reagan? Under Eisenhower?
Yeah. Thought not. But way to try and obfuscate some more. You can certainly dissemble with the best of them – if you only put that much effort into knowing what you were talking about in the first place, we would be a far better electorate.
Oh, and ‘sin taxes’ hardly count. They are voluntary activities, and are therefore taxed only at the rate at which one consumes said product. Irrelevant.
and one more… “if you believe that the 51% have the absolute right to do whatever they please to the 49″ …
I bet you are one of the sort who voted to prevent gay marriage, assuming your state voted on it. And I further bet you would vote against abortion if it were up to you. And I bet you don’t see the irony of you stating that above sentence while holding those positions. The 51% would quite delightedly dictate those things onto the other 49%… but somehow it just ain’t the same, is it?
What you don’t like is when the 51% vote for things you personally don’t like.
Hardly the same thing. (Amazing how clever I am, eh?)
Actually if you look at a historical graph, GDP and standard of living have consistently rose as tax rates fell and tax revenues are higher than they have ever been in history. Amazing how we are able to rake in more and more money with lower and lower taxes, it’s as if lowering the rate increases productivity and removes the incentive to avoid paying.
Tax cuts have worked astoundingly well every time they were implemented. While there is a threshold beyond which they offer diminishing returns until ceasing in effectiveness entirely (which is a trait found in all economic actions) I doubt we have reached it yet. What we need now in terms of tax policy is a vast simplification that reduces the overhead cost of paying taxes, which would effectively act as a tax cut as everyone spends less on the tax-paying process despite paying the same rate and increase the profit margin on taxes as the government spends less to process them.
What is biting us now though is not a revenue problem, but a spending problem. Loose fiscal policy, excessive reliance on debt, and bottomed out interest rates not only led to the 2008 recession but are also hampering the recovery and setting us up to take a bigger fall in the long run.
Guess you’ll have to change the subject again, as you’ve been soundly trounced on both voter ID and tax policy.
“realitysliberalbias says:
How ’bout the voters – legitimate voters – who cannot afford to go get said ID? In Texas, for example, there are places in the state that are 250 miles from a location where you can get the ID. You have to take the time off of work, pay to get there, and pay again ($22, in the case of TX), for the ID itself.”
For your information, state-issued non-driving photo ID’s are FREE here in Texas. And they are valid for five years.
So how is it that people cannot get out once every five years to get an ID, but can get out several times a year EVERY YEAR to vote?
And while you are at it, perhaps you can explain why it is only Democrats that have this issue!
It is obvious you don’t know your history. Perhaps your classes never taught the date or contents of the Sixteenth Amendment or Wickard v. Filburn
Tax rates should be falling. We are no longer fighting the Cold War or WWII, like in your silly comparisons. IT and automation should be making government more efficient.
The economy is currently toxic, having been poisoned by the excessive spending of statist administrations and congresses. We’ve had this problem since the end of Eisenhower’s term. He gets a partial pass because of the post-war interest and the necessity of stopping communism.
That’s funny. My alma mater was apparently good enough for your much revered post turtle.
Strictly speaking, income and capital gains are voluntary, too. In fact, they’ve become even more voluntary as Comrade Chairman has worked overtime to expand the welfare rolls.
In the real world, tens of millions of Americans are addicted to cigarettes, and those who are tend to be disproportionately poor and undereducated. Obama had no problem giving them the shaft.
Ever try and manage an employee trying to quit? By about day three, work isn’t getting done and you’re telling them to either start smoking again or start taking sick days.
I don’t care about gay marriage and I don’t care about abortion.
What I do care about is the continuation of a system which prevents 51% (or a highly manipulated/fraudulent appearance thereof) from abridging the fundamental rights of the 49%, such as rights of free expression, gun ownership, due process, and private property.
If the poorest 51% decide to socialize the property of the wealthiest 49%, is that a decision you respect? What if 51% of your countrymen decide that your opinions are no longer permissible. Will you respect that, too?
FOOLS and FRAUD, it’s the only way they can.
Mr liberalbias
So if I’m following you you’re saying that voter fraud never happens and that expecting a voter to prove who they are at the polls is racist and unreasonable. Is that about right?
Well, allow me to state the obvious. If a person in the richest country in the world does not have the moxie or motivation to obtain valid i.d., I do not want that person voting. There is no excuse or reason for a person to have no i.d. These are the fringe members of society and I do not want them voting.
Also, I will give you the same advice I gave my 17 year old son. Constant snark and sarcasm do not make you look clever. They make you look like a twit.