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Nov 06 2012

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  • Bob Roberts

    There’s a storm on the horizon, rolling in now.

    Brace for impact.

  • Drury

    Sad sad day for an America that now plunges irrevocably into the darkness of government tyranny. Will be going Galt myself and doing everything within my power to screw those who have screwed us.

  • Anon-Y-Mouse

    Picture says it all.

    I’m done posting after this. Hope you all can find a way to hang on to freedom for a little while longer. We tried, but they have the numbers. The last great hope of mankind is now officially over.

    Sorry John Doe. The game has been called on account of darkness.

    Over and out.

  • Spider

    The American people will now find out the true cost for their weakness and stupidity…..

    Today, 11/6/12, America died.

  • Michelle

    Goodbye America….

  • RKae

    On the bright side: I can finally end my months and months of pretending that Mormonism isn’t utterly insane.

  • born in 76

    The American EMO socialist don’t even know what they’re wishing for. They’re sheltered ignorant wannabes that are in for a rude awaking.

    Reap what you sow.

  • Dr. 9

    No Anon-Y-Mouse, it wasn’t the numbers. They had the fire, the passion, and the balls, all the things Republicans, Conservatives, and the dead Tea Party lack. They came to this election to fight and win, our side did not. The republican party is now, IMO, the official symbol for weakness.

  • burt

    Champagne, orange juice and far right tears = delicious!!

  • Backbone 76

    These exact fucking liberal peasants that voted this shit fuck back into office will soon reap the rewards of their poor judgement. Fuck e
    ‘Em all.

  • Kahlief

    WE win ya racist bastards

  • Bob Roberts

    You know, when I think of Obama, certain words come to mind:

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    The history of the present President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama, is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
    He has pandered to special interest groups, to the detriment of the population at large, and of society in general.
    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, instead encouraging the passage of laws, and when laws could not be passed, by the creation of regulations, which are contrary to the desires and welfare of the majority of the people of these United States.
    He has called together secret meetings of socialist plotters, at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of finding ways to force the people to be fatigued into acceptance of his measures.
    He has appointed activist judges to ensure that his other usurpations cannot be challenged in the courts of this nation.
    He has endeavored to encourage the population of these States with illegal aliens; by obstructing the Laws for immigration and Naturalization of Foreigners; while refusing to pass others to encourage their proper and lawful migrations hither.
    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation.

    —–

    I could go on. But hey, one of you, take it from here for now.

  • M. Wilson

    Romney still holds the lead in the popular vote, indicating that this race is closer than the media would like us to believe. Some states “called” for Obama might not necessarily go to him when it’s all said and done, once the recounts settle. Heck, if Gary Johnson had done the smart thing and dropped out Romney would have already won by now (thanks, asshole).

    But worst case, it’s only four years. Thanks to an amendment it’s unconstitutional for him to run for a third term, and as long as we survive this I doubt anyone in their right mind will vote Democrat the next election.

  • Anon-Y-Mouse

    Dr 9, if you were within my reach, I would hurt you in ways you could not even imagine.

    Your response is a bell-weather of the loving, tolerant, inclusive, all-pervading government we are now subject to.

    I am a Christian, but have fallen a bit, because I do so hate you and all like you. Fuck you doesn’t even begin to express what I want, but it will do.

  • Musicmaven

    Massachusetts elects a FAKE Indian and America has re-elected a FAKE American President! :(

  • Bob Roberts

    burt says: November 6, 2012 at 9:50 pm
    ————–
    We’re not crying, not a one, but you will be… you… will… be!

  • Bad Barry

    Teach the usurper the three I’s.

    Impeach. Indict. Incarcerate.

  • Joe Casepack

    I can live with a weaker economy and tons more debt. This country deserves all this pain for being so stupid.

    The thing that pisses me off is that Obamacare will eff up my healthcare even further. It’s already caused my healthcare insurance to skyrocket and it’s only going to get worse. Dammit.

  • Anon-Y-Mouse

    …BUT, tomorrow I will regain my composure. You, Dr. 9, will still be an asshole.

    Get used to it folks, Obama ain’t even STARTED the revenge yet.

    But he weel, he weel.

    Last post. For real. By everyone. It was nice reading (most of) your posts.

  • born in 76

    So, are white people the minority yet? I want what’s owed to me.

  • burt

    By the way Bob, Obama is now leading in Virginia. LOL!!!

  • howard

    “Today, 11/6/12, America died.”

    “Goodbye America….”

    “The last great hope of mankind is now officially over.”

    “America that now plunges irrevocably into the darkness of government tyranny.”

    Gimme a fucking break, will ya?

    Because living in a pluralistic democracy means giving up on your country if YOUR political views don’t win out on everything.

    Calm down dipshits: you said all of these things about America under Clinton – remember? All the liberals said it about W. All BS.

    In reality, Obama is a middling, mediocre moderate when you actually look at policy (God forbid!). So the county will still be middling in 4 years, so that election can be the MOST IMPORTANT IN THE HISTORY OF THE US AND WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!

    So cheer up, and remember: these sort of drama queen outbursts may be expected from liberals, but are unbecoming for conservatives.

  • Cooter

    Now the userper can give amnesty to all the illegal aliens and have another 25 million dem voters. We’re fucked. I will need to make this my last comment on forums on the net, before(if I’m not already) I get on the political desident list. Were going to get higher gas, electric, oil, lower dollar. Fuck it..Evil mother fucker will finish his job of trashing America.

  • Bob Roberts

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
    For abolishing the free System of American Laws throughout the land, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule across this once great nation.
    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to energize and strengthen our enemise, foreign and domestic, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions until only a politically correct morass of paralysis remains.

    And that’s when he gives Putin a call and says, “Hey, remember what I told Medvedev? Well, I’m ready to deal!”

  • Jodie

    My daughter was reading the following passage to me just before the horrible news. It’s true and I hope it gives comfort to my friends here at Moonbattery:

    “1 Do not fret because of those who are evil
    or be envious of those who do wrong;
    2 for like the grass they will soon wither,
    like green plants they will soon die away.

    3 Trust in the Lord and do good;
    dwell in the land and enjoy safe pasture.
    4 Take delight in the Lord,
    and he will give you the desires of your heart.

    5 Commit your way to the Lord;
    trust in him and he will do this:
    6 He will make your righteous reward shine like the dawn,
    your vindication like the noonday sun.

    7 Be still before the Lord
    and wait patiently for him;
    do not fret when people succeed in their ways,
    when they carry out their wicked schemes.

    8 Refrain from anger and turn from wrath;
    do not fret—it leads only to evil.
    9 For those who are evil will be destroyed,
    but those who hope in the Lord will inherit the land.

    10 A little while, and the wicked will be no more;
    though you look for them, they will not be found.
    11 But the meek will inherit the land
    and enjoy peace and prosperity.

    12 The wicked plot against the righteous
    and gnash their teeth at them;
    13 but the Lord laughs at the wicked,
    for he knows their day is coming.

    14 The wicked draw the sword
    and bend the bow
    to bring down the poor and needy,
    to slay those whose ways are upright.
    15 But their swords will pierce their own hearts,
    and their bows will be broken.

    16 Better the little that the righteous have
    than the wealth of many wicked;
    17 for the power of the wicked will be broken,
    but the Lord upholds the righteous.

    18 The blameless spend their days under the Lord’s care,
    and their inheritance will endure forever.
    19 In times of disaster they will not wither;
    in days of famine they will enjoy plenty.

    20 But the wicked will perish:
    Though the Lord’s enemies are like the flowers of the field,
    they will be consumed, they will go up in smoke.”

    Psalm 37

  • Bob Roberts

    Want to guess which of our new trolls this is?

    A Pennsylvania man was arrested yesterday after flashing his breast implants at fellow Walmart shoppers.

  • http://screwypuppy.blogspot.com/ Screwy Puppy

    So, this is one of my more screwy ideas, surprise surprise. But it is less screwy than voting for Obama.

    We can build Galt’s Gulch.

  • Gunny G

    When the USA goes bankrupt and assholes like burt stop getting their free shit, their free phones, etc, they’ll whine like little bitches asking how it happened.

    Let us prep for the worse, and when the shit hits the fan and the NE states need help and the Rust Bowl needs help, fuck em. Let them starve. Let them freeze. Le them de in riots.

    I no longer recognize them as Americans and I am damn sorry I served 21.5 years in the Corps. This nation is not worth my blood, sweat, and pain.

  • CR

    The people have spoken – they prefer freebies and handouts over justice and freedom. So be it…they will reap what they have sown. Time to go Galt and leave them to their fate.

    Gloat while you can lefties and enjoy it because it will not last. I will see you later, when you’re in the street begging for food. I will be there to spit in your face.

  • Bob Roberts

    Hey, I found Kahlief.

    Killer faces life in jail after confessing to girl’s murder when he thought he was dying of a heart attack – then SURVIVING!

  • thescribbler

    Time to stop being patsies and start investigations into Benghazi, Fast & Furious, etc. The man needs to be impeached and imprisoned. If we give up the fight…our country is truly doomed. Obama is NOT my president.

    God bless the people who are suffering still due to Sandy. Another thing that we need to press. No more playing soft ball…..

  • Bob Roberts

    Every cloud has a silver lining: Now Obama will be in office, with a Senate Majority of his making, when we go off the fiscal cliff he created and when Social Security and Medicare implode thanks to the things he and the Democrats did.

  • Gunny G

    The scribbler:

    “God bless the people who are suffering still due to Sandy.”

    Fuck em, they went for Obama.

  • Louie

    This just in: over half the people in the United States are complete morons.

  • FPST

    Well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOYdQOLkqf4#t=00m38s

    I think this sums it up nicely.

  • Howard

    ““1 Do not fret because of those who are evil
    or be envious of those who do wrong;”

    Another lesson the forefathers taught us: democracy is a system where you’re right, and those who disagree with you are evildoers.

    IT’s like a little civics lesson here. Very nice.

  • V328

    Why do I even get up and work everyday and pay taxes. How much of that is going to be given away the next four years?

  • Geeknerd

    The word for today is “quadrillion.”
    The word for tomorrow is “hyperinflation.”
    Buy gold and guns while it is still legal to do so.
    Study medicine to treat yourself and your family.

    Government of the people, by the people, and for the people has perished from the earth. President (for Life?) Obama will make Robert Mugabe look like Winston Churchill.

  • Howard

    “Obama is NOT my president.”

    Reality begs to differ, scribbler.

    I love that you hate Obama more than you care about your county, though. It’s sweet.

  • Michelle

    Every single penny + interest + fees + penalties +

  • http://Determinatus.com Determinatus

    Thank you, Jodie and Howard, for providing needed PERSPECTIVE on this most difficult of nights. You have both calmed my vindictiveness, in startlingly different ways.

    The sun will rise in the morning. It will just be a little longer for the Country.

    God Bless America!

  • hiram

    I wonder how loudly burt et. al. will be crowing in a few years, when they’re eating Purina Famine Chow out of a bag marked, “Gift of the People’s Republic of China”.

    I’ll know *I’ll* be fine; I understand what’s coming & I’m almost ready for it (this election just spurs me to continue prepping). I also know what’s going to happen to the lefties. I watch the news.

    After Sandy, I saw more than one “on the street” interview with locals in Noo Yawk complaining that they didn’t have any food. This was SIX DAYS after the storm. Seriously? That’s as prepared as they are? Six days and they’re starving? What are they going to do when those Foostam cards just stop working one day, and never work again?

    Oh, the libbys will get what they voted for. In spades.

  • Tiger

    Okay, idiots, let’s get a few things straight. First, Romney’s winning the popular vote right now because the electoral count includes projections and the popular vote only includes counted votes, which means the liberal west coast is counted in the former but not the latter. Second, the map looks red because rural areas go conservative. Duh. Third, if you decide to ignore those first two points and continue to rant about how we need to get rid of the electoral college, think again: the college benefits conservatives because it overweights less populated red states like Wyoming and underweights more densely populated blue states like California. Do the math, as an IL voter, my vote is worth approximately 1/5 of what someone from Wyoming’s is worth.

    Also, grow up. I know that Fox News has filled your heads with apocalypse and gore, but it wasn’t the end of the world when Bush got elected (though it came close) and it’s not the end of the world now that Obama’s won four more years.

  • http://deleted 4th Estate

    NO! GOODBYE MICHELLE! GOOD-BYE ANONY-MOUSE, HELLO DEMOCRACY. GOD SHED HIS GRACE ON THEE. I LOVE AMERICA, I LOVE AMERICA, I LOVE AMERICA. SAY IT YOURSELF OR SUBMIT YOURSELF AS TREASONOUS VILLIANS!!

  • hiram

    Howard says:
    November 6, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    “Obama is NOT my president.”

    Reality begs to differ, scribbler.

    I love that you hate Obama more than you care about your county, though. It’s sweet.

    ——

    I hate that you love Obama more than you care about your countRy, though. It makes me nauseated.

  • Howard

    via Super Asshole Gunny G:

    “God bless the people who are suffering still due to Sandy.”

    Fuck em, they went for Obama.”

    People lost their homes and are cold tonight. Older folks with nothing to eat, over 100 dead. Your countrymen.

    But if they don’t agree with your politics, FUCK ‘EM, right?

    YOu’re a douche POS, Gunny, for saying that. Some things should be bigger than politics. I hope you don’t lose your house, family or life in a natural disaster. Too bad you’re too small to wish the same for me since I live in the NE.

  • http://deleted 4th Estate

    GOD SHED HIS GRACE ON THEE (OBAMA)!

  • http://deleted 4th Estate

    BIDEN 2016!

  • Rob Banks
  • Howard

    “I hate that you love Obama more than you care about your countRy, though. It makes me nauseated.”

    ACtually, I didn’t vote for Obama becasue of NDAA et al. unacceptable moves.

    But the extreme love and hate for Obama are equally mystifiying and misplaces when one looks at what he’s actually done.

  • Gunny G

    To you Obama voters:

    “If ye love wealth [welfare] better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” Sam Adams

  • Me

    The Photo of Lady Liberty says it all. Who will
    cry for us now that the light is gone.

  • Gunny G

    Howard,

    Fuck you. If I had my way, the West would secede from you shitbags in the New England States and the Rust Bowl. You’re morons who reelect a criminal, a nutbag named Jesse Jackson Jr, and a fake Indian.

    As I said, y’all can fucking rot. I live in the FREE STATE of Alaska and we have everything we need to be our own nation. We need you parasitic fuckwads like Massachusetts needs more assholes.

  • Howard

    This is what annoys e about poiticos. Bob Roberts above has a bunch of good points about Obama:

    “For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:”

    “For abolishing the free System of American Laws throughout the land, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule across this once great nation.”

    THese are both true points – and part of the reason I did not vote for Oabama.

    But they’re equally true of W. Liberals only recognize W’s transgressions, cons Obama’s.

    THAT is the problem. Not Obama or W – US. WE cannot think straight. WE ignore the trespasses of one group while ignoring those of the other.

    This country is more concerned with style, sound bites and partisanship than we are with policy and reason. That is the problem. W and Obama are but symptoms of that problem.

  • Bloodless Coup

    For whatever reason, our Nation has decided to slit it’s other wrist and re-elect a mad man.

    It’s all fun and games until Uncle Sugar runs out of free cell phones and food stamps.

    Then we will finally learn what the word unsustainable really means.

  • Howard

    “Fuck you. If I had my way, the West would secede from you shitbags in the New England States and the Rust Bowl. You’re morons who reelect a criminal, a nutbag named Jesse Jackson Jr, and a fake Indian.”

    Look, secessionist nonsense form the person gloating that his countrymen dies in a natural disaster. I’m real shocked – consider the source.

    “As I said, y’all can fucking rot. I live in the FREE STATE of Alaska and we have everything we need to be our own nation. We need you parasitic fuckwads like Massachusetts needs more assholes.”

    Well we won’t let you go (though I’d love to make an exception for a horrible human being like you) so forget about. You treasonous wet dream of secession is like you – impotent.

  • Gunny G

    We’re ALREADY at a debt to GDP ratio of 108%. In other words, we make less than we owe. If anyone thinks that is a good thing, they’re fucked in the head. The Butcher of Benghazi’s debt is projected to grow to 25 TRILLION by 2020. Goodbye USA, Hello Greece.

    Food, Guns and Ammo, and warm clothes/shoes to be the new currency.

  • Tiger

    Wow, tempers are running high right now.

    *munches popcorn*

  • Gunny G

    Howard,

    You’re under the impression I give a fuck about you NE staters, I don’t. I have relatives as stupid as you, voting Demotard since Christ was a Corporal and they’re just as dumb as you. The NE states, have been parasites since the 80′s and you’re parasites now. Enjoy your free shit asswipe because it will run out soon and may you end up like Detroit.

    BTW, secession is a growing theme in this nation because we 53%ers are sick of you parasitic 47%ers.

  • Howard

    Again, Obama is a technocrat middler. YOu guys really should calm down – it’s mostly the same foreign of the last POSTUS and econ policies of the last three PsOTUS.

    I know the “style” may not seem it, but policy is what matters.

    Granted, there are the radicals like Larry Summers, Tim Geitner and Robert Gates/ Leon Panetta.

    At some point you have to look at what he’s actually done instead of what you’d like him to have done. HE’s middled.

  • George Mason

    We are totally fucked. Like someone already mentioned, the bastard will give amnesty to millions of illegals, and the GOP will NEVER win another election. Yeah, Johnson should have dropped out. That one percent he stole from Romney got the emperor re-elected. Romney won the popular vote however, and electoral college should be dropped. Obama doesn’t have a mandate of any kind; more people actually voted for Romney.

  • Howard

    Gunny G = immoral asshole.

    Nothing really else need be said.

    Except Fuck Off douche. forgot that.

  • born in 76

    Dave, delete that marketwatch story, it’s fake, my bad for glancing over it with out fully following the story.

  • Gunny G

    Imgine fuckwits like Howard the Coward voting for a dickhead like Obama, who’s closest advisor stated two days ago:

    JARRETT: “After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve.There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.”

    BYE BYE CONSTITUTION. BYE BYE USA

    PS: Howard the Coward, eat shit and die.

  • Bloodless Coup

    Who becomes President when Obama is finally impeached for letting four Americans die in Libya?
    That’s what I want to know.

  • Stephan The Original

    Thanks Jodie for the eternal perspective. Important to remember that those words have outlasted many nations and kingdoms and will continue to do so because they were inspired by an eternal God.

  • Ummah Gummah

    .

    FUCK the NE. They voted zerO. Enjoy the noreaster, guys..

    .

  • Stephan The Original

    Howard, what are you going to do when the money runs out? Do you really think the rapid increase of debt under Obama will not crash one day very soon? And please don’t deflect the question.

  • Gunny G

    Obama voters celebrate and gangbash a white man.

    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/11/06/witness-to-brutal-attack-speaks-with-wjz/

    Get ready for more of the same from the Obomination.

  • Rotohammer

    Obama will preside over our surrender in Afghanistan, our abdication to our enemies, another downgrade in our credit rating, higher energy prices, higher healthcare costs for worse care, and insolvency in Medicare and Social Security.

    That is, if he survives the investigations into Benghazi and Fast & Furious.

  • Gunny G

    Rotohammer,

    Not to mention surrendering our soveriegnty to the UN like he and Hitlery ALREADY tried to do with the UN Small Arms Gun Treaty

  • Howard

    “The NE states, have been parasites since the 80′s and you’re parasites now. ”

    Actually, idiot, look who gets the most fed $. It’s Alaska.
    http://www.foxbusiness.com/government/2012/08/03/states-that-get-most-federal-money/

    Who’s the parasite? In Mass,we get less coming back than goes out so that we can give $ to Alaska.

    Mind you, I don’t care. I work very hard, pay my taxes, and understand that rural states have special needs. But we’re the parasites? Hardly. Boston is a city of very hard workers. Lot of late hours, lot of production.

    And Gunny: you’re welcome. YOu don’t deserve it personally, but you’re welcome.

  • Howard

    “Gunny G says:
    November 6, 2012 at 10:45 pm
    Imgine fuckwits like Howard the Coward voting for a dickhead like Obama, who’s closest advisor stated two days ago:”

    Again, I did not vote for Obama genius. Is there anything elseyou can fuck up factually? Immoral AND stupid is no way to go through life, son.

  • Bob Roberts

    Moonbats and their priorities.

    Staten Island Borough President James Molinaro says the people of his community are in desperate need of fresh underwear.

    Because, like our moonbat trolls, they are all full of shit, apparently.

    The Occu-tards are still at it.

    They actually have to pass a rule that you can’t go into someone else’s tent without permission. You have to respect one another. They need special rules to achieve these things.

    Ah moonbats. Can’t live with them, can’t ship them off to some place where they can sink or swim on their own merits.

    Obama made his bed, now it’s time for him to deal with it.

    Treasury Quietly Warns: ‘Expect Debt Limit to Be Reached Near End of 2012′

    NOTE TO WHOEVER ENDS UP RUNNING THE HOUSE: No more compromises. No more increases in the debt limit. Time to live within our means.

    Although Treasury revealed in its statement on Wednesday that it was likely to hit the debt limit by the end of the year, Treasury Secretary Geithner failed to respond to a letter that Senate Finance Ranking Member Orrin Hatch and Senate Budget Ranking Member Jeff Sessions sent to him on Oct. 15 demanding that he notify them by Nov. 1 what he believes to be the exact date Treasury will hit the debt limit and the date he expects to begin using “extraordinary measures” to avoid it.

    Prior to the release of this statement, Sen. Hatch and Sen. Sessions sent Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner a letter asking him specific questions about the approaching debt limit and the administration’s plans for dealing with it. Hatch’s and Sessions’s questions included these two: 1) “What is Treasury’s forecast of the date upon which Treasury will find it necessary to use extraordinary measures to manage to keep federal debt at or below the statutory debt limit?” 2) “What is Treasury’s forecast of the date upon which the U.S. government will reach the statutory debt limit given use and exhaustion of these extraordinary measures?”

    The senators gave Geithner a “hard deadline” of Nov. 1 for providing an initial response to these questions. Julia Lawless, spokesperson for the Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee, confirmed that as of Nov. 6 the committee had received no response from the Treasury secretary.

    As of Oct. 31, according to the Daily Treasury Statement (DTS), the portion of the federal debt subject to the legal limit was $16,222,235,000,000–just $171.765 billion below the $16,394,000,000 debt limit.

    In October alone, according to the DTS, the debt subject to the limit increased by $195.214 billion.

    Moonbats trading gas for sex.

  • IslandLifer

    Anon-Y-Mouse says:
    November 6, 2012 at 9:53 pm
    Dr 9, if you were within my reach, I would hurt you in ways you could not even imagine.

    Your response is a bell-weather of the loving, tolerant, inclusive, all-pervading government we are now subject to.

    I am a Christian, but have fallen a bit, because I do so hate you and all like you. Fuck you doesn’t even begin to express what I want, but it will do.

    Lol. Your true colors finally showing eh? The pot who called the kettle black. Lessons in civility you promised. Fuck you and your self righteous bullshit. And that goes for all of you who spoke big and showed your hypocritical nature. You never fooled me. Now you’ve got some catching up to do, I don’t put my faith in man but God and Him alone. I’m peace out as well but some of you need to look deep and hard into the mirror and learn what really matters in life. Go on now, get going! I’m further down the trail than you think. And you liberal communists, you have hell to pay. Yes, you will live in torment as will your infected seeds which will be cursed by your mistakes and yours alone. God is not with America. America has abandoned Him.

  • WingMann

    Now is not the time to dispair. Now is the time to prepare.

  • david

    United states of america born 1776 died in 2012 R.I.P.. the light on the hill has been put out

  • Bob Roberts

    Bloodless Coup says: November 6, 2012 at 10:47 pm
    ——————
    Joe Biden. And I believe whoever is speaker of the house moves up to VP.

    Then we nail Biden – that should be easy, he’s such a total fuck-tard that there has to be something he’s guilty of – and our guy moves into 1600 PA Ave.

  • Howard

    “Now is not the time to dispair. Now is the time to prepare.”

    For what?

  • Howard

    “United states of america born 1776 died in 2012 R.I.P.. the light on the hill has been put out”

    Wow, what a patriot.

    YOu guys make me ill – really. Almost worse than the libs after W got re-elected.

  • Louie

    Gunny G, 10:04 pm
    CR, 10:05 pm
    Bob Roberts, 10:11 pm
    and others:

    When things worsen, they will just vote themselves more of your stuff, tax it out of you, or confiscate it from you in other ways. 1.7 BILLION rounds, remember.

    Obama et al will see this election as a mandate to not only continue along the same path, but to escalate the pace and severity of what they’ve been doing. They will cement their hold through amnesty and through freebies to the 47% who would sell their souls for some trinket they didn’t have to work for. This group will therefore soon number more than 50%, which will mark the onset of our total collapse.

    It continues to amaze and befuddle me that so many people are so completely ignorant of the most fundamental financial concepts: you can’t run a country with more going out than coming in; having to pay interest on debt is a bad thing; debt itself is a bad thing; you can’t spend your way out of a recession; it’s the people with money who create jobs; and on and on and on.

    Further, Obama’s Muslim sympathies will continue to guide his every action, and he will now be overt about it. He will feel invincible, and will aspire to eventual world dominance through the UN. He will continue with putting the necessary pieces for this in place over the next four years.

    2A is doomed. Stock up now in anticipation. Prepare, and hunker down.

    I really don’t understand how *anybody* could have voted for this un-American asshole.

    He is the Anti-Christ, in that he will bring about The Demise, and that which follows.

    The end is near. Perhaps we need a Hari Seldon. Going John Galt will not be enough.

    Or perhaps December 21 will bring. . . .whatever. . . .

  • http://wyldgoose.wordpress.com/ Wyld_Goose

    …all enemies, foreign and domestic.

  • Howard

    “He is the Anti-Christ, in that he will bring about The Demise, and that which follows.”

    I’m trying to imagine how much of a moron you have to be to believe something like this. Luckily, I can’t….

  • Ummah Gummah

    Gunny G says:
    November 6, 2012 at 10:45 pm
    Imgine fuckwits like Howard the Coward voting for a dickhead like Obama, who’s closest advisor stated two days ago:

    JARRETT: “After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve.There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.”

    The feckless GOP won’t do a thing now, except crawl the aisle. And the bots will be coming for the internet. Once they control that last bastion of Freedom and independent thought, the lights go out for good..

    .

  • Howard

    YOu guys just love America until your guy doesn’t win.

    What kind of love is that? What kind of patriotism?

    The shallow, horseshit, politically expedient variety, that’s what kind.

    Have fun with your pity party, I’m out.

  • Marcus

    Damnit Col Alan West is behind

  • Ummah Gummah

    .

    Louie, that was SPOT-ON. The moslemchurian gave trinkets to the 47% plus a bunch of whitelibs who voted for him cause that makes them feel good, and now we will pay with the total loss of our Soverignty.

    Expect the turd world hordes to consume what remains..

    .

  • david

    Hey howie if us real americans make u so sick y the fuck u here and not the soviet blogs u turd and by the way damn stright im a patriot cuz i would never vote for a marxist fuck like obummer who wants to transform this nation. This country was just damn fine the way it was founded thank u!

  • Louie

    Howard, 10:31 pm

    Howard, you do realize that Bob Roberts did not originate those points, no? That this was a cut and paste? Do you recognize its genesis (pun, of sorts, intended)?

  • chuck in st paul

    fuck it, I quit

    For decades I have done what little I could to support the GOP and push conservative pols and ideas. Once again the GOP falls on its ass, but more importantly, the entire country has gone blind and stupid and opted for a Euroweenie welfare state from which we will never get back.

    I was shocked and disappointed last time when Obysmal won, but at least I could understand that with the LSM pimping for him. They made him a rock star and all the starry eyed morons and blacks voted for his celebritiness and empty promises.

    This time around there is no excuse whatsoever. The leeches, baby killers, and surrender monkies have finally reached critical mass. Like the Gunny says – fuck ‘em. Alpha Delta Mike Foxtrot

  • Tiger

    Thanks for being so goddamn crazy, guys. You’re giving me plenty of material to submit to FSTDT.net

  • BzS

    We all love America. We have simply never been so disappointed by the people in it.

  • Rodri

    Hi Everybody!

    I told y’all Obama was going to win this. He was going to win this because despite what you been fed by your conservative media, Obama is a patriotic American who has the nation’s interests at heart and that is why the American people love him back!

    I know you will respond to this by insulting me. To which I respond to you… “WHo’s in the White house”?.

    I hope you all enjoy 4 more years of liberalism with enthusiasm.

  • Tiger

    BzS: So… you love America but hate the people that America consists of. That’s not at all contradictory.

  • born in 76

    Tiger, comprehension much?

  • Bob

    We have maybe two years. We still have the House but by then Obama will have the election scam in full swing. Start stocking up

  • Louie

    Alpha Mike Foxtrot

  • Nathaniel M

    Hell I ain’t done… I’m still lookin’ at the proposition results for Kahlifornia and praying we don’t get double boned over here. Live and fight another day. I was prepared for this mentally and I ain’t crawling home to a banky and crying “woobie, woobie!”

    Well… I am all out of bubble gum!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso

    Seriously though we can’t drop Benghazi, we must press on w/ getting answers. Trolls feel free to turn the lights out when you’re done. You should be used to an echo chamber already anyway. :P

  • Tiger

    born in 76, would you like to justify the apparent contradiction for me?

  • Jester

    Jodie – I love you! Your post is the only one here worth reading. God bless you and yours!!

  • Sam Adams

    The folks in Europe that were pulling for Obama had better start rethinking their position. More importantly, they better start thinking about their own defense, since the US military isn’t going to be around much longer to protect them.

  • Louie

    Nathaniel M, 11:47 pm

    Agree on Benghazi, but don’t you think it will be dragged out and ultimately just fade away due to cover-up and apathy, just like Fast & Furious and all the other Obama Bullshit? So many issues of significance have met this same fate, and have just fallen off the back burner simply because the next big thing came along, never to be resurrected, lost from the public consciousness.

  • Aliste

    I am a Christian, but have fallen a bit, because I do so hate you and all like you. Fuck you doesn’t even begin to express what I want, but it will do.

  • david

    The meaning of hope and change for the next four years. hope u got change in your pocket after obamas done taking your money!

  • Sam Adams

    Howard says:
    November 6, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    “Now is not the time to dispair. Now is the time to prepare.”

    For what?
    ___________

    That’s a really good question.

    1. Here are some things to consider. The EPA is mandating rules that are shutting down coal-fired power plants. Coal production has been reduced about 33%. About 45% of our electrical energy comes from coal. With the EPA regulations, plan on the electrical grid having less power to keep your lights on and your home warm.

    2. The real unemployment rate is about 10.5%. New taxes will be imposed with ObamaCare, and, unless congress acts quickly, tax rates will increase on everyone January 1, 2013. Now I know it is difficult for liberals to understand this as being a problem, so I will try and use a simple example.

    What does the government do to get people to stop smoking? If you said “raise taxes,” you would be correct. That is because most people understand that increased taxes act as a deterrent on peoples’ actions.

    So, when the government raises taxes on the productive members of society (the innovators, the job creators, etc.,) will they not respond by becoming less productive?

    3. When Obama was elected in 2008, the national debt was 10 trillion dollars, and the GDP was about 14 trillion dollars. Now the national debt is 16 trillion dollars and the GDP is 14 trillion dollars. By 2016, the national debt will be 20 trillion dollars (or more) and we will be very lucky if the GDP remains as high as 14 trillion dollars. How much will the government have to pay in interest costs every year on a 20 trillion dollar debt if the interest rate is a typical 5%?

    Any clearer?

  • Nathaniel M

    “but don’t you think it will be dragged out and ultimately just fade away due to cover-up and apathy”

    That’s entirely possible and even probable. I’ve stated in a post before that I don’t give a toss who wins the POTUS, it still has to be pursued. It’s incumbent on all those who still care to make sure it doesn’t die and be discarded as a political Kleenex. These weren’t political blunt instruments to be tossed aside after use, these were soldiers and an ambassador that died.

  • Louie

    After such a grueling race, methinks Moochelle must need another vacation. A big one this time. I mean, there are no longer any constraints upon her spending. She should probably hire some more staff, too.

    And Barry can now hit the links again, every day if he wants to. Or maybe some b-ball with his Hollyweird boyz. No need to pretend any more, ya know?

  • Sam Adams

    To all the youth who voted for Obama, and think that socialism might be a better plan than capitalism:

    Your IPhone is now a WePhone (there is no “I” under socialism). It will be redistributed to those who have less thanyou.

    If you are still in school, grades should start being redistributed, too. After all, is it fair that you get an “A” because you busted your butt all weekend studying, while a couple of your class members got an “F” because they partied all weekend? Where is your sense of social justice?

  • Louie

    God, give me the serenity to accept the bullshit I cannot change,
    the courage to change the things I can,
    and the wisdom to know the difference.

  • TED

    It isn’t numbers, fire, passion or any of those other pretty causes, reasons. The left dosen’t have enough IQ or pride, morality for it.

    IT’S JUST THIS SIMPLE!

    It’s like how all the little lefturds that lurk here and never venture a comment now come out of the woodwork to namecall and laugh. Now that SOMEONE ELSE racked them up a victory.

  • Nathaniel M

    Great Louie now I wanna go to an AA meeting. Apoplectic Anonymous that is…

  • Louie

    Now we must succeed *in spite* of having a terrible President rather than *because* of having a good one. Things will be much harder than they need to be.

    Also, the last four years have shown us only the tip of the iceberg. . . .

  • Nathaniel M

    Looks like Geriatric Jerry Brown’s prop 30 Taxola u 2 the Maxola is 50/50 with 38% precincts reporting in.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/election/results/race?race=81946054&edate=2012-11-06

  • Nathaniel M

    Obama has put off most of the searing effects of his govt largess until after his 2nd term, from health-care to Dodd Frank, etc. We’re gonna see how the American people are going to be able to swallow that bitter pill after the honeymoon period. Prepare to be gassed with unicorn farts, seas parting and rainbows. I’ll be there with popcorn watching moonbats fondling each other. Sheesh!

  • jtm371

    america has jumped the shark it was nice knowing you.

  • Restless

    So, tonight, Americans gave their seal of approval to 7.9% unemployment, record numbers on food stamps and disability, $16 trillion in debt, socialized medicine, runaway government spending…

  • Louie

    People continue to disappoint me, both individually in my personal life and collectively in matters of national import such as this.

    Uncertain what to do. Perhaps zone-out into an ABBA marathon. Or with Dirty Harry/Rambo/other extreme (vicarious) vengeance movies. Or immerse in pure fiction reading. Or simply hibernate. A cabin in the woods, maybe. Or exercise. Go fishing. Zen. Escape.

    So many options, none of which are enticing or productive.

    Suggestions, anyone, on ways to deal with life’s disappointments, large and small?

  • Alphamail

    Howard says:

    Since you seem to be the head gloater and don’t see Obama as a threat to our future, but you see him as a “moderate meddler” along the lines of Clinton and Bush, I’d like to ask you a few questions.

    Did Clinton or Bush retain a large cadre of personal friends and white house visitors who once belonged to the infamous Students for a Democratic Society who called for outright war with the United States and who bombed over forty structures, including the Pentagon, military recruiting centers, and police stations?

    Did Clinton or Bush have the moral support during their elections, of the Communist Party USA, the Socialist Party, La Raza, Castro, Hugo Chavez, the violent New Black Panther Party, Code Pink, most all of the large Muslim organizations in America, Hamas, and Muslim Brotherhood advocates around the US and in the Mideast?

    Did those presidents nearly double the national debt by multiple trillions?

    Did those presidents pass 137 executive orders which gave them the possibility of unlimited executive power, which would include bypassing Congress in any and all emergencies, were they so inclined?

    Did those presidents declare they would like to create a homeland security force larger than our combined military?

    Upon their elections did those presidents call for the fast tracking of hundreds of Muslims into their administration?

    Did those presidents promise to bankrupt the coal industry and raise the price of gas to $10 a gallon – as we’ve now seen coal mines closed, miners out of work, and gasoline prices halfway to the $10.

    Did those presidents refuse to allow America to drill for oil, build a major oil pipeline, build a nuclear plant, or develop natural gas in a way that would absolutely rescue us?

    Did those presidents alienate our closest ally in the Middle East – Israel – and ask her to return to 1967 borders (insuring her demise), and refuse to declare Jerusalem as their capital as it has essentially been for thousands of years?

    Did those presidents have a “total gun ban” background and did they hire an attorney general and chief of staff who are vehemently against the Second Amendment?

    Were those presidents sued by a multitude of individual states for a multitude of reasons?

    Did those presidents have Muslim roommates in college?

    Did those presidents have a confessed Communist mentor?

    Did those presidents leave the black community with a realistic 20% unemployment rate?

    Did those presidents reduce our military and suggest the continuing reduction of our military to the point where over 200 retired admirals and generals of the armed services declared they would vote against him, and, both the Soviet and Chinese navies have increased subversive nuclear submarine operations off both our coasts due to that reduction?

    Did those presidents have the government take over an auto industry (GM) and then give the proceeds to the unions as well as the government, leaving guaranteed company stockholders in the lurch?

    Did those presidents say they would create jobs, and then hold a jobs summit where unions and governmental agencies were invited, but the Chamber of Commerce and the National Federation of Independent Business were not?

    Did those presidents say they would not give medical care to an unborn child who was in the process of surviving an abortion?

    Did those presidents say persons who helped the border patrol, who put Ron Paul stickers on their bumpers, who flew a Gadsden flag, who were fluent in short wave radio, or who were ex-members of the military who might question the motives of Homeland Security, should be considered for placement on the terror watch list?

    Did those presidents constrain and endanger our frontline military members by hampering them with deadly self-defeating “rules of engagement?”

    Did free government entitlements such as EBT, cell phones, disability claims, and Section 8 outflow, skyrocket under Clinton and Bush?

    Did those presidents divide America with a constant stream of accusatory divulsive speech, which has not been seen since the Civil War?

    Did those presidents alienate American Christians – which includes Catholics – with anti-Christian rhetoric, anti-nonprofit suggestions, and the forcing of believers to go against their beliefs?

    Did those presidents take multiple billions of hard-earned taxpayer money and use it to invest in personal-preference alternative energy projects which then miserably failed?

    I could go on and on, but if you think Obama is a moderate, and the people here are blathering idiots, I feel desperately sorry for you.

    Gloat all you want.

    You have no idea what’s in store and we do.

    Pray.

  • Jeremiah Legacy

    It’s ironic that Jeremiah Wright’s words are coming true. “Not God bless America, but God damn America.”

  • Alphamail

    Louie says at 12:54 am

    See Jodie at 10:01 pm and a comment from IslandLifer

    People who disregard the Bible do it sadly at their peril.

    There are uplifting portions as in Psalms, but there are ubiquitous realistic life lessons as in Kings.

    Life is a roller-coaster ride (as you will see in Kings) and humans suffer when they don’t acknowledge righteousness, and they proper and succeed when they do.

    America has some soul searching to do.

    It’s either revival – and we move upward and prosper.

    Or the roller coaster has lost momentum and is unable to climb.

    If you feel stuck, remember – man is not the answer – only God can move mountains.

  • Sam Adams

    Joseph Stalin killed about 50 million of his own citizens. He was one of the worst mass murders in history.

    We have sacrificed about 50 million unborn babies at the feet of the “Pro Choice” gods.

    We have much to repent of.

  • Rides A Pale Horse
  • HappyImNotAmerican

    Equality is liberty. Welfare is freedom – the freedom to buy food even though you don’t have a job.

  • ArtBell

    Only way to fix this now; we all stop paying our taxes – or – as Ayn Rand put it ‘heading to Galt’s Gulch’. We cut off their life blood, the socialism, illegal immigration and welfare problems all solve themselves. I for one will no longer be a willing participant in my own victimization by supporting these monsters. I’m also not listening to any more Fox News, Rush, Savage or anyone else who supported and helped force RINOmney on us. My tolerance of this bullshit ends NOW.

  • Ummah Gummah

    .

    Alphamail says:
    November 7, 2012 at 12:55 am

    I was depressed before I read this. Now I have visions of a Thousand Years of Darkness.

    .

  • Ummah Gummah

    .

    Reading this is guaranteed to depress you guys:

    What we have to look forward to:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/11/what-we-have-to-look-forward-to.html

    Perhaps the time for Civil Disobedience has come.. he WILL do all these things.

    And WORSE.

    .

  • Ummah Gummah

    4th Estate says:
    November 6, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    GOD SHED HIS GRACE ON THEE (OBAMA)!

    Don’t use the Lord’s name in vain. When you mean allah, say allah. No more reason to hide… no re-election considerations for the moslem-in-chief.

    .

  • Rides A Pale Horse

    6November2012. “A day that will live in infamy.”

    http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/RAPH6969/101.jpg

  • Ummah Gummah

    .

    Here’s the won emerging from his masters’ shrine after the election:

    http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/090408-obama-muslims-vmed-3p.widec.jpg

    Just got a new set of marching orders..

    .

  • Ummah Gummah

    Rides A Pale Horse

    That gives me an idea: Everyone who understands that we just committed National Suicide should fly the Flag at half staff or upside down as a sign of distress.

    .

  • dan

    How did the North-east vote or get to the poles without electricity ?
    How do they know the results of the vote before the poles are closed…given the accurasy that they report news like Bengahzi (six weeks late) ?

    ‘It ain’t no-thang’__Apocalypse Now

  • TED

    4 MORE YEARS OF RUBBING LIBERAL ASSO’S NOSES IN IT EVERYTIME THAT POS FAILS – AND YOU KNOW HE WILL! Pretty soon you will be able to tell liberals from the real people by the mutants not having a nose.

  • TED

    Ummah Gummah says: November 7, 2012 at 2:57 am

    Great idea Ummah, I just changed mine and hung it.

  • Louie

    Alphamail, 1:20 am

    Thanks, Alpha. I appreciate the reminder.

    For two years not that long ago I was on staff full time at a major Christian church. Eventually, I became disenchanted by the covert fiscal corruption of the particular ministry for which I worked, through which flowed approximately $2M annually. When I brought my concerns to their attention, I was basically told to mind my own business. I left the ministry and that particular church shortly thereafter.

    From that experience I learned many things, including:

    1. If enough money is involved, whatever the endeavor, corruption will follow.

    2. Self-proclaimed uber-zealots (religious, political, educational, military, etc — apparently makes no difference) are not necessarily immune to temptation or self-deceit.

    3. People who don’t think they will get caught will, without a second thought, take immense risks disproportionate to the perceived rewards. Over time, such behavior becomes so deeply ingrained that it becomes standard operation procedure, a part of their culture.

    4. When confronted with evidence of their wrongdoing, such people will quickly throw others under the bus to protect themselves, and will rationalize away their actions as either not their fault or as being somehow for the greater good. But never is their excrement odoriferous. (In my youth, we said “They think their shit don’t stink.”)

    I could go on, at length.

    One potential takeaway here is — does this sound in any way like any governmental administration we might all know? In some ways, the similarities between politics and religion are striking.

    Anyway, I kicked the dust of that particular church off of my sandals and have not looked back. Life has improved since then, as I am no longer troubled by the illegal, immoral, unethical and unsafe practices of that ministry and those charged with its shepherding. I am still in the word (of a fashion), still talk to and listen for Him and still lead my life according to Biblical principles and teachings. I am, however, still searching for a new home church, and have become disenchanted with organized religion.

    But I ramble. Again, thanks for the reminder. I undoubtedly needed it.

  • http://www.brycchancarey.com/abolition/wilberforce.htm Wilberforce

    My, oh my, look what Obama has inherited now.

    And people wonder why zombie culture has taken such a foothold in Western culture.

    Brace yourselves. ‘Precious metals’.

  • Grunt

    I love how Coward comes in and tries to play it off like he’s somehow superior: ‘it’s not about sides, it’s about policy’ he pules, but let us not neglect to recall, his very first post was more about ‘ah, champagne and far-right tears: delicious’.

    It IS about policy, you mook…it’s just that more of those here (the ones you deem “far right”) ARE thinking about the next four years of MORE BAD POLICY. We get it, apparently, and you do not.

    But hey, we can see clearly where your priorities lie: you’re just happy that people you don’t like are disappointed in the election results.

    So in the eyes of many here, THAT is what YOU boil down to; it’s got nothing to do with your country. May that bless you in the worst ways possible, and hit you hard.

  • Garpin

    I was speaking with my neighbor the other day (full blown idiot whose density cannot be matched even by osmium) has Obama placards all over his yard. The reason he was so gung-ho for Obama?

    Because of his education and experience. I knew then this was going to be a tough sell, but I spoke with him about everything from the LFBC *showed him in illistrator – he didn’t believe it* his SSN, Benghazi (which he had never heard of) Fast and Furious (again, no knowledge of it). The national debt, the deficit, economics in general including the fact the interest on or national debt is 1 trillion dollars a year, illegals, late term abortion and on and on. Finally, blue in the face, I asked: Is it because the SEALS killed bin laden, and he not only didn’t know he was dead, but didn’t know why we would kill him.

    I’ve know the guy for 5 years and yea, he is that dumb and he voted, for Obama.

  • Ummah Gummah

    TED says:
    November 7, 2012 at 4:10 am
    4 MORE YEARS OF RUBBING LIBERAL ASSO’S NOSES IN IT EVERYTIME THAT POS FAILS – AND YOU KNOW HE WILL! Pretty soon you will be able to tell liberals from the real people by the mutants not having a nose.

    The problem is, Ted, that he will succeed in flooding the country with several million more demonRAT voters.

    What all these people who are running away from their failed corrupt countries fail to appreciate is the fact that when they all gather together in the USA, this country will turn into exactly what they left behind.

    Plus, he’ll be ushering in as many moslem “refugees” as he possibly can, while the Republicans stay silent, so as not to “offend”.

    It’s over, time to Go Galt.

    .

  • Ummah Gummah

    Garpin says:
    November 7, 2012 at 5:11 am

    They’re looking for guys just like your neighbor to work at DOJ.

    .

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    I refuse to waste my energy in anger blaming this or that (which is completely out of my control)
    Instead, that energy will now be focused on enacting the plans which serve my own interests.
    For the foreseeable future, patriotism is now officially defined as sacrificing for the good of the welfare brood sow and by extension the state so I will be preparing to go some level of Galt, not by choice but out of necessity.
    The left will first target luxuries, wrongheadedly believing this is how to “eat the rich” but an overwhelming majority of wealthy people I know don’t even desire that stuff at all.
    In fact, the best survivalists I know are not those wacky preppers, rather it is these wealthy people.
    They instinctively know how to feed themselves and their families expending the least amount of time and energy, and still have time in the day to interact with the market.
    Look for a few things to happen that will shake things up.
    First, the stock market bubble fueled by easy money cannot continue indefinitely, regardless of what the experts say on CNBC
    Second, there is a massive looming commodity bubble out there.
    Third, at some point interest rates will have to rise.
    This spam is to hit the wall anyway win or loose.
    But the most damage will be done by the Keynesian flailing in desperation to attempt to curb it.
    Cadell and Shoen’s predictions of an ungovernable nation are about to come true.
    These Obamazombies have their sights set on more than fooze stamps and the free phones.
    Yet they will find these things useless without electricity for refrigeration and to charge that phone.
    Look for your local utility supplier to be pounding on the doors of the utility commission for rate hikes to offset the new high price of coal.
    This story came right on the heels of the EPA revelations targeting coal
    Coincidence ?
    http://www.startribune.com/local/177008501.html?refer=y&vi_adid=W
    The article claims Xcel needs rate increases to expand it’s nuclear plants, while demand is DECREASING ?
    Believe it or not, the decrease in demand is what is keeping the power supply from being interrupted now .
    This is the first summer in a long time where power was not lost in the heat of late afternoon.
    Any economic growth here would overtax the system before long.
    Also look for intermittent disruptions in fuel supplies as the Democrats in states and Feds tussle over regulations, blends, and mandates.
    These will do more damage than if they simply taxed it.
    The coming command economy will try to dictate what should be produced.
    But this will provide opportunity for those who know where to look for it.
    It will also cause great hardship to those who voted for it and are now expecting utopia from it.
    Patience

  • Son of Taz

    The “it’s all free on yo’ ebt” culture won this. The independent, self-sufficient people lost and will now be made to foot the bill for the free loaders. It’s not worth running a small business now because anyone who does will be the enemy. I’m closing my small business at the end of the year. I have just two employees, me and a part-timer, but this will be repeated in spades in the near future to millions.

    Without an income, $7 a gallon gasoline and heating oil will be unaffordable.

    @Gunny G, your service to the once great America will always be valued. Please don’t think you wasted your effort. I pray this is not going to destroy us, and we’ll always need good men like you. Thank you for your service.

    To those of us who exercise our second amendment rights – join the NRA or at least donate to them. Donate to your state gun owner’s organizations. They are the best hope to keeping our rights intact.

    We will be leaving Massachusetts now that a complete fake was voted in. Scott Brown wasn’t exactly what I wanted in a Senator, but he is so much better than the snotty Harvard bred fake Indian.

    I’m not saying good-bye to America. The independent-minded built this country, not the riff-raff with their hands out. We will survive and the evil of collectivism and secularism will be defeated. Just be ready for some real pain and anguish. We will win in the end.

  • /not my real name

    FRAUD WON. TRUTH LOST. FREEDOM DIED.

  • burt

    Going Galt?

    When you invent a perfect motor to run Galt’s Gulch, do let us know.

    Elizabeth Warren won. Allen West lost.

    Have a nice day, I certainly will.

  • Winston Smith

    Sort of figured this would happen. People today vote for candidates based on the amount of “free” stuff they promise to give them. When 47% pay no net income taxes and several % points more pay low single digit percentages as an effective tax rate, the tipping point has been reached. Only severe economic pain (Greek/Spanish style) will force people to face reality.

    Stock up on essential “non perishable” supplies now particularly those of a “security” nature.

  • walter

    I am absolutely disgusted.

  • Winston Smith

    Going Galt? Probably wont happen but if for 90 days people bough only essential products and stopped all non essential purchases – it would have a huge impact. Problem is too many wont do it. It would be interesting to see a huge hit to GDP in 1Q 2013.

  • M. Wilson

    If we can widen our lead and the house and take control of the senate, there’s a chance we can still stop Obama’s agenda in its tracks, or at least force his hand so that to keep going he has to bypass Congress in increasingly totalitarian ways. After all, despite all the promises Presidents make about the budget, it’s Congress who holds the purse strings. It would be like herding cats, but if we pull it off we could teach all the commies the meaning of the words “Checks and Balances”.

  • Rogal Dorn

    This is just… this is just rich. No, please, keep posting. Your impotent rage feeds the light of the Astronomicon far better than the souls of even 10,000 psykers. This is fantastic. Even the Black Templars would have a hard time deciding if they were more xenophobic and hateful than you lot.

  • Magic Underwear

    Boo Hop. That evil black guy won and my guy didn’t now I am so mad . Shut up all you idiot losers, crawl back in your bunkers and cry.

  • M. Wilson

    Because wanting fiscal sanity is “xenophobia”.

    The good news is, as bad as things are, it should take more than 4 years for the debt to become completely unpayable unless the Democrats go absolutely bonkers. Barring a major disaster or homeland invasion, they would have to triple or quadruple spending to cause a collapse before Obama hits his term limit.

    It will be a lot more painful to pay off though. If we had started restoring fiscal sanity this election, we could have gradually eased off entitlements and we would have still had enough money to keep one or two around in a more efficient form. But if Obama sticks to his current course, by the next election it will be so bad that the only mathematically possible way to balance the budget will be to go cold turkey, eliminate entitlements entirely. And that will be excruciatingly painful for the nation.

    But, if we can get Congress to start slowing and reducing the spending, we may be able to reduce the damage and buy ourselves enough time that we can ease off the entitlements gradually in 2016. It’ll still be more rushed and disruptive than if we had started now, but we can stop it from having to be a total system shock.

  • Avitus

    Come on then! Enough talk! Take up arms! Go to the hated ones and have them show you your fury! Oh, you’re not actually going to fight or move out of the country or stop enjoying the benefits of technological progress? I guess you better just shut the hell up then. America is not going to be undone by this, no matter how hard you fap to the idea of an apocalypse. Sack up and quit being a bunch of whiny assholes.

  • K

    On the other hand, now we get to find out what comes after ‘trillion’…

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    burt
    You might not like it, but you might as well be informed that what your Lightworker and Warren “won” is the honors of presiding over that which their policies have already created.
    It is YOUR PARTY which will now be required to stand in front of the looting mob and tell them the free sh** they were promised is merely held up in channels, to drive less as the price of gas skyrockets, to learn to
    survive blistering heat and cold with less electricity as rates become unbearable
    http://www.startribune.com/local/177008501.html?refer=y&vi_adid=W
    These are things you HAD the luxury of not answering to as long as your parties propaganda arm laid blame externally while O was literally taking the liberty of causing on purpose.
    In this example I laid out here, the only option left is to organize the riot outside Xcel’s corporate offices or make electricity distribution a government function as rates rise and supplies flicker.
    But much to their chagrin, these actions will solve nothing.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    Yet three MORE examples of lib trolls wishing for that instinctive fear of being finally held accountable to go away.
    Their answer to real world examples of bad policy is to smear their feces across your screen

  • M. Wilson

    That’s the main thing lefties don’t get about our entitlement system as it stands now.

    Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, all of these programs will shut down eventually. It is inevitable. The only question is whether we shut them down voluntarily, doing whatever we can to ease the transition, or we let them keep running full throttle until they collapse, and one day Grandma goes to pick up her Social Security check only to find it isn’t there because the money no longer exists.

    It’s like a car racing towards a concrete wall. The car is going to stop eventually, the only question is whether it will be because you stepped on the brakes or it hit the wall. And the longer you wait, the harder you’re going to have to step on those brakes to save yourself.

  • Tarkus

    Finally being held accountable to what? The failed economic policies of The Shrub that directly caused the problems that we’re having now? The spectacularly disastrous wars that he started that we’re just now able to get out out? Or did you have something else in mind?

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    Four ?

  • Canis lupus

    burt says:
    November 6, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    “Champagne, orange juice and far right tears = delicious!!”

    More proof that liberals are mean spirited people. I knew last night that the gloatfest would begin.
    Its not like they would say something like, “I hope this proves you all wrong because things are going to get better”, the liberal trolls say cruel things. I saw some tweets yesterday where obama supporters were threatning to kill people who voted for Mitt Romney.
    This is why I do not feel good about my future. It is people like burt who wanted to re-elect obama to exact revenge on people they dont like. For what, I do not know.

  • StanInTexas

    Tarkus, I hate to interrupt your gloat, but I have a quick question for you.

    Who is Obama going to blame for his issues and inabilities in the next four year? Or you you and your ilk plan on continuing to Blame Bush?

  • Tzeentch

    What you fail to realize, dear children, is that this all a part of the plan. One unending chain of plots and thoughts, twists and turns, and the plan will keep moving forward, whether you accept it or not. You all feed into it, unwittingly, and only when it is far too late shall you realize the ineptitude of everything you have tried to accomplish. Dream sweetly, dear children, and know that nothing you do will alter the outcome at all.

  • Khorne

    Canis lupus, you should rejoice at the prospect of spilling blood! Blood makes the galaxy turn! Spill blood at each and every opportunity! Let the country BURN!

  • Tarkus

    Stan, I’d like to reply to your post, but I feel you should take a basic course in grammar and syntax before you being to call people out.

    And for the record, if Obama screws it up in this term, it will be a mixture of his own shortcomings and the unwillingness of both sides to come to an agreement in the middle on key issues, since apparently ‘winning’ is now more important than actually strengthening this country in preparation for the coming of the Emperor of Mankind.

  • Sam Adams

    Granny will be able to get her social security check. The government can print as much money and as many checks as they like. Unfortunately the value of each dollar will decrease, so Granny will be able to afford less.

    Here’s what the liberals have to look forward to:
    1. The US dollar is abandoned as the world’s reserve currency. No longer will all nations use dollars for buying oil. Those increasingly worthless dollars will buy less oil. Gas prices will continue to increase. Anyone think that $8.00 per gallon gasoline will help the economy to grow?

    2. As gasoline prices continue in increase, our government will also mandate more corn be turned into ethanol. Corn will also become more expensive because it takes a lot of energy to raise, harvest and transport corn. Food prices will increase from breakfast cereal to eggs to meat. Hamburger already costs $3,00 per pound. Plan on it increasing several more dollars per pound, along with most other staples.

    3. The government owns you. They can force you to buy anything they think appropriate. Kids in high schools are already experiencing what it is like to have the government mandate their school lunch menu. Plan on a lot more of that.

    4. Medicare care will become more scarce. Doctors will have to work longer hours to see more patients for less money. That will result in fewer US citizens entering medical school, and more doctors retiring early. Plan on more doctors from India. We might even get some doctors from Burma.

    5. Financial collapse. While the government can print more money, you can’t. Every dollar you have saved will be worth less. Every dollar you get paid will be worthless. If the government needs to buy gasoline at $28.00 per gallon…no problem. They can print more. If you have to buy some gas, good luck. When will you get your next raise (assuming you have a job)?

  • Marneus Calgar

    Sam, I’m curious to know just how many conservatives also favor turning corn into ethanol, since it’s funded by oodles of special interest groups to include massive agricultural companies. And the government can’t force me to do anything, inasmuch as purchasing power is concerned. If I want to buy a Maserati or a Ferrari, that’s my prerogative, and nobody can tell me I can’t do that.

  • StanInTexas

    Tarkus, before you stoop to correcting another person’s spelling and grammar, you may want to correct your own.
    “I feel you should take a basic course in grammar and syntax before you being to call people out.”

    You made an informed answer after your infantile correction. At least that is something.

  • Slaanesh

    All of this is irrelevant, StanInTexas. The real question is, how much are you fapping after correcting someone on the internet? Does it feel good? Do you love the self-satisfied smile on your face? Give in to your desires…

  • http://nobarack08.wordpress.com nobarack08

    I agree. The sheeple pulled the lever on their gallows with this election. The media has become whores of an administration that is lawless. There has not been a budget in four years, just wreckless spending. To show how uneducated the Obama sheeple are, the numbers don’t add up with the economy, in both inflation and unemployment and yet they are allowed to fudge numbers and not be held accountable.
    The murder of an Ambassador and three other Americans, support and help denied and American people lied to and again the media is chirping crickets. Fast and Furious with US Border agents killed and 300+ Mexicans dead and again nothing.
    The media has become the enemy of the American people and freedom in general. Just as Pravda was in the Soviet Union, the media here has become whores. Dirty, infected, and diseased whores.

  • The God-Emperor of Mankind

    My children, you have all failed me. There is no unifying factor here, there is no species that is ready to claim the stars that are rightfully ours. There is instead a collection of disgusting, gibbering flesh, all ranting and raving about things they know nothing about. Perhaps Eldrad was right. Perhaps there is no redemption in store for humanity. So long as the likes of people which infest sites like these exist, there can be no Great Crusade. You have made me ashamed of you, my children. I shall retire once more to my work. Perhaps you will be ready after Old Night.

  • Sam Adams

    Marneus Calgar says:
    November 7, 2012 at 7:27 am

    Sam, I’m curious to know just how many conservatives also favor turning corn into ethanol, since it’s funded by oodles of special interest groups to include massive agricultural companies. And the government can’t force me to do anything, inasmuch as purchasing power is concerned. If I want to buy a Maserati or a Ferrari, that’s my prerogative, and nobody can tell me I can’t do that.
    ___________

    Fascism is government control of private industry. That is pretty much what the corn ethanol industry is today. Those that play along get rich; those that don’t get crushed.

    Here’s the sad thing. If corn prices continue to rise, most folks in the US can find ways to cope with increasing food prices. One seventh of the US population is on food stamps. Most folks will find a way to eat. Not so for people in third world countries. As corn prices increase, they will less able to feed themselves. Millions will starve to death. Liberal policies (and corn into ethanol is a liberal policy) will result in millions of deaths in poorer countries.

    As for the government forcing you to buy one thing or another, think again. You will have to buy health insurance or be fined. If government motors doesn’t sell enough cars, do you think they can’t impose taxes on your purchase of non-Government Motors cars?

    How about cheaper prescription drugs from other countries? You think that will become easier or harder?

  • StanInTexas

    Slaanesh, he corrected my in a mindless screed that also contained a typo. How petty do you have to be to correct someone for something you yourself did?

    It would be like being called a fat slob by Michael Moore!

  • Nurgle

    I’d love to see sources for all the information that gets spouted in here, but I fear that it will be from insanely partisan websites, and not anything that can be considered neutral, since I doubt any of you read things that don’t already conform to your own opinions.

    But that’s okay, children. Papa Nurgle loves all.

  • Slaanesh

    Yes, yes! Harder, faster, Stan! Rub out your intellectual superiority boner! Spray your satisfaction splooge all over the screen! Give in to your most carnal and base desires!

  • StanInTexas

    Enjoy yourself Slaanesh. Your side won. And stay as classy as you are now.

  • Slaanesh

    Oh, but don’t you know? I take pleasure in all things. Excess, lust, greed, smugness, sadness, everything… the whole galaxy is just filled with all sorts of wonderful things to soak in.

  • facebkwallflower

    The people have not spoken. DICTATORS DO NOT WIN ELECTIONS. Accept this. Realize this. The masses, the PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA did not vote for this guy. Simply did not happen.

    Now, onto what are we going to do about it. How willing and how much will you do as a CITIZEN OF AMERICA? There is NO Rule of Law in this country and has not been in place since the Regime came into office. Those not aware of this, get busy learning about it! So, what to do?

    JUST SAY NO!

    Samll business unite, get prepared to live without those business. Get ducks in row for yourself and employees. Then, in unity, no longer be IRS agents and stop collecting taxes to send to government. Pay straight to employee and let them file themselves. The first business fined or bullied, and all just walk away from the business. Remember, you and employees are ready and prepared for this. No more monies generated. No more taxes. Add to this as many as willing of privately held, large corporations and business; they do the same. The economny is going to fall under the Marxists. Let it be on our terms that will give us control and power on the rebuild. What is left of America, of American Citizens, must walk away from being slaves to the government. And, yes, we are slaves. We work for their survival. They get more from our fruit of labor than we do. They own our fruits of labor. The only way the last thread of America is going to be weaved into a full bolt of material, so to speak, Is to cut the money off to the Masters. All walk away and start rebuilding with Americans. Think about it. What other choice do we have?

    JUST SAY NO!

    Companies and Corporations UNITE and do not comply to healthcare. Who has the power here? Remember there is no rule of law. No law to break. It will not be Justice the Regime will try to enforce; it WILL be thuggary and oppression and worse. History tells us so. The only way to not let it get as bad and as evil as in past times is to not let it happen in onsie-twosies. They cannot be successful thugging ALL when ALL walk away.

    Talk to your employers, the business owners, Business Associations, etc., It can happen. We can get American Back. BUT we must not play their game.

  • born in 76

    So much talk about gas.

    Look at bread. The loaf of bread I was buying in 2007 was $1.29. It is now $3.29 and 4 years from now will probably be $6.29. All the while my pay stays the same(if I still have a job).

  • Sam Adams

    Nurgle says:
    November 7, 2012 at 7:44 am

    I’d love to see sources for all the information that gets spouted in here
    ___________

    One of the advantages of a classical education is the ability to not only gather information, but to be able to process and draw conclusions from that information.

  • http://cambriandissenters.blogspot.com Daniel Thomas

    Don’t despair my American cousins. Last nights result was a bitter blow but you can’t give in to socialism.
    Pick your yourselves up, dust yourselves down and get working toward the next election now, today.
    American is worth saving.

  • Gabriel Angelos

    So, what you’re saying is, you don’t have a source, and you’re full of shit with everything you say, right? Otherwise, why wouldn’t you feel confident citing your sources for your obviously true information?

  • born in 76

    My good friend just text me.

    Posted on his work bulletin this morning.

    “A notice was put up on the board st work today saying if I want to keep the insurance policy I have then I have to pay quite a bit more monthly”.

    and it starts…

  • facebkwallflower

    @Daniel Thomas…. We just played the wait until election game. Uh, Dictators and/or Regimes do NOT lose elections.
    The system is broken, usurped. To wait on the next election just gives the Regime more time to control more people. See my post further up. We must go to war, and I am not talking about guns and violence. We must start BEING Americans.

  • Sam Adams

    Gabriel Angelos says:
    November 7, 2012 at 8:11 am

    So, what you’re saying is, you don’t have a source, and you’re full of shit with everything you say, right? Otherwise, why wouldn’t you feel confident citing your sources for your obviously true information?
    ___________

    What do you disagree with? Do you doubt that hamburger is priced at $3.00 per pound? Do you doubt that the price of breakfast cereal has increased substantially? Do you doubt that corn is a major ingredient in the price of eggs and meat?

    http://www.hpj.com/archives/2010/nov10/nov8/1029CornSuppliesAffectCattl.cfm
    Fewer beef cattle are being raised because the farmers believe that corn prices will increase.

  • Jodie

    Thanks Determinatus, Stephan the Original, Jester, AlphaMail, and anyone else who appreciated the Bible passage I posted!

    Also, I agree with those who believe that Obama won due to trickery, deception, lies, payoffs, etc. I don’t think he would have won without that. But, I always felt that it would go this way. No one can stop Obama. He is determined to be the world leader. He sold his soul to Satan long ago.

    We can’t change the events that are about to happen, but we can be thankful that God warned us about these things.

    God bless all the good people who post on Moonbattery and please pay back the evil ones for all of their evil deeds. AMEN!

    We are headed for more poverty, crime, hate, chaos, destruction, riots – you name it.

  • WhiteFalcon1

    @GunnyG: Alaska? Bro, I’m on my way…don’t care where in Alaska just anyplace else these liberal fucking assholes, AREN’T!!!

  • Gabriel Angelos

    There, was that so hard? It was, what? Three clicks? Four, maybe?

  • Gabriel Angelos

    Gunny… you do realize that if Alaska was to be cut off from the rest of the country, we’d all die in a matter of weeks, right?

  • Ummah Gummah

    Son of Taz

    What kind of a business are you closing, if I may ask? I don’t want you to tell any details that enemies could use against you given that this blog is open to all readers, friend and foe alike.

    I closed a small business in NYC and at the time others were doing the same. I even met a gay restaurant owner who told me he absolutely loathes obama and despises the democrat party.

    I met quite a number of sundry small business owners who were closing around the same time I did.

    And yes, it did get even worse from 2008 to 2010.

    Some of the people leaving had plans to reopen down South, in the Carolinas and in Florida.

    Now that obama is back in I KNOW I made the right choice for me and my family. Glad I didn’t try to ride out the rest of his term and lose all I have..

    .

  • born in 76

    The sickness never seems to amaze me….

    “Chris Matthews on Obama win: ‘I’m so glad we had that storm’

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/07/chris-matthews-on-obama-win-o-glad-hurricane-sandy-struck/#ixzz2BYPJ99aE

  • Snowsnake

    For the first time in as long as I can remember, I did not pray for our nation.
    This time we have elected again the leader of a party that booed the name
    of God at its national convention-that has elevated the killing of the unborn to
    a sacrament. A party that has pushed an agenda of making homosexuality a
    lifestyle that is equal in their eyes to the normal lifestyle of all previous generations.
    They think perversion is to be laughed at and they find the very things that Jesus died for to
    be extremely funny. This is a nation that has the idea that it is justice to take by force what
    one person has earned by his work and give it to another who has not worked.

    Lies and cheating are expected and encouraged and all objections are shouted down
    like the mob shouting in front of Pontius Pilate. Our leader bows to enemies that
    have not defeated us. He openly aids those seeking our destruction.

    Now I will pray for the souls of the demon-infested evil people that they might be
    brought to truth and to know Jesus, but I cannot pray for the success of their work.
    In fact, if there is to be a global ice age, if the volcanoes and earth quakes that could
    happen come, if the plagues and famine and the absolute destruction that would result from a magnetic reversal
    occur, or if many of the other destructive forces of nature that God commands hit our nation and world–let
    them come. If the wars that weakness always brings on happen–let them happen. Because
    these things may well be necessary for the coming of His Kingdom.

    God made a world and a cosmos of such incredible beauty and complexity that it is truly
    a great pleasure to behold. But this morning I see it so saturated with evil that is like a black
    shroud covering everything. The evil is dripping from the trees and darkening the skies. And
    though His light can shine through the darkness, I cannot love this world. In the fullness of time
    and at His will, I want to be in his masterpiece. For this is all just a rough sketch.

  • Ummah Gummah

    .

    I promise never to forget what Chris Christie did, whether or not it had something to do with the eventual outcome.

    As another countermoonbat wrote:

    Nov. 6, 2012: A Day That Will Live In Infamy!

    .

  • Jodie

    Snowsnake says:
    November 7, 2012 at 10:13 am

    Really, really great post! I agree with you 100%!

    Ummah Gummah,

    I am so sick of Christie, I can’t stand the sight of him. He is a traitor and should be held accountable for the further destruction that is about to come upon that area. I am watching these things with a sense of awe and validation.

  • Your Inner Voice

    Confess.
    Repent.
    Believe in the death/burial/resurrection of Christ for you, in your place, accept him, and begin traveling toward the eternal Kingdom.

    I am only a pilgrim here, and no human, nor the devil himself can take away what I shall shortly enjoy beyond time, that I do not deserve, but have been offered from God’s boundless love for me.

    Do you have a better option?

  • Alphamail

    Louie @ 4:53 am

    Just like hospitals are filled with the physical ill, churches are filled with those of us in need of Spiritual solace and fulfillment – i.e. everyone.

    But there are unholy practitioners of religion just as there are unethical doctors.

    The worst failures of faith come from disappointing situations wherein comfort and truth were sought from an individual or group, operating under the auspices of religious Good.

    If necessary – though it isn’t, because there are certainly some awesome Bible-based churches – skip church and go directly to Scripture, where comfort and truth are plainly visible if you take the time to uncover them.

    Don’t mean to sound preachy – you probably already know all that…..”sticks and stones may break my bones, but it doesn’t matter – I have the Word.”

  • Winston Smith

    Due to the $1 Trillion in new money the Fed/Treasury are creating over the next year. Expect inflation to soar. Theres a reason why they call money printing something cut like Quantitative Easing. Ask anyone on the streets if they know what it means and you will be lucky to find even a few who have a clue.

    Same soort of people who dont know what the U6 unemployment rate is and why its so significant.

  • Michelle

    They don’t care Winston…. The rest of us pay their way.

  • TrickleUpPolitics

    Louie,
    I recommend you visit a Church of Christ. Not a United Church of Christ, those are not the same thing. The Church of Christ believes in the infallibility of the Bible and God’s Word. It is New Testament Christianity. I found it after I gave up on Baptists and it has changed my life.

  • Cameraman

    November 6th,2012 a Day that will go down In Infamy!
    Oh! By the Way, Fuck all you Libtard Bastards! Enjoy your New Chains!

    Semper Fi

  • keyplate

    America used to be a Christian nation. This election proves we are no longer.May God have mercy on us.

  • Sam Adams

    The majority of the US is still Christian. However, apparently fewer conservatives bothered to vote yesterday than in 2008. Personally I have my doubts, but that is what the numbers say.

    Why did so many Christians stay home?

  • Alphamail

    200th comment…..Praise the Lord

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