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Nov 12 2012

Hispandering as Suicide

Many seem to agree that conservatism has no future in America due to our demographic conquest. Romney won the largest share of the white vote of any Republican candidate in history, yet lost anyway against a conspicuously awful candidate. If current trends continue, leftists like Obama won’t even need self-hating white fools to put them over the top. Whites will effectively become enslaved to the voting blocs that reliably team up to loot them.

But not to worry, establishment Republicans like Sean Hannity and Charles Krauthammer have a solution. We need to declare amnesty, making it official that the USA no longer asserts its right to defend its borders from foreign incursion like other countries.

Terrified of an increasingly bleak future, Hannity and Krauthammer have withdrawn into a fantasy world in which the Third World dregs that are displacing America’s population will suddenly embrace the values of hard work and personal responsibility if we can just grovel a little more obsequiously. The reality they cannot face is that most Hispanics, like virtually all blacks, will continue to vote overwhelmingly on the single issue of using the government to steal our money.

Declaring amnesty simply means widening the red carpet for more Democrat voters. Whatever tepid immigration restrictions might be imposed as part of a deal with Democrats will be laughed off by parasitical hordes who know the next amnesty is only a matter of time.

Recall that Reagan declared amnesty in 1986, with the usual provisions that now the border will be sealed, now we will take our sovereignty and rule of law seriously, yadda yadda yadda. It didn’t stop Obama from getting 71% of the Hispanic vote.

There are reportedly 12 million Mexicans living in the USA, half of whom are here illegally. The real numbers are probably higher. If we still had the will to survive, we would throw the invaders out of our country, just like Eisenhower did with Operation Wetback.

Since that isn’t going to happen, we have to face the reality that America as we knew it is finished. It is in the process of being replaced by a socialist Third World banana republic that will reflect the culture of its new inhabitants.

Pandering to the vultures picking over America’s corpse isn’t going to bring it back from the dead. The point now is to keep the concepts America was founded on alive, which we can only do by remaining true to them regardless of political consequences. Maybe someday another America will rise.

On tips from IslandLifer and Artfldgr.

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  • Howard

    “Many seem to agree that conservatism has no future in America due to our demographic conquest. ”

    No, IDIOT: hatemongering as a political tool is over. Despite your hatred for non-whites, they can grasp lower taxes and limited gov’t just as much as you can.

    Conservatism as a policy will be just fine because it makes sense and is a necessary counterweight to spending and taxing too much. And maybe if you et al. stop making blacks and hispanics into sub-human traitors, they might pause long enough to get the message.

    HATE as a political tool in modern American politics is what’s taken a hit, not conservatism. Say bye-bye Dave. All the racist bile you’ve written since the election? Not gonna work anymore as practical matter.

    “Since that isn’t going to happen, we have to face the reality that America as we knew it is finished.”

    This is so much BS and histrionics from a racist (made clear since the election) with no knowledge of history.

    But if you really believe it – GO! Get the fuck out. We don’t need people who think America sucks and hate most of her inhabitants.

    Trust me – we’ll be just fine w/o you!

  • son of a preacher man

    Paging Dunning-Kruger

  • Tchhht!!!

    Hey Howard,

    Care to provide some sources/facts for you hate filled blather?

    Pull you head out of your ass and go here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGyfmhFobdM

    Then come back and tell us who the hate mongerers are.

  • Howard

    “Paging Dunning-Kruger”

    Exactly. People with a very surface understanding of history and policy think they understand it.

    Claiming that America is now over because of this election demonstrates this quite well actually.

    It’s like when you guys claimed Al Queda constituted an existential threat to the US (e.g., the Cold War)- it’s so ignorant of the history of actual existential threats that it was like you had never picked up a history book.

    Then there’s confusing a mixed economy with communism. Or modern political movements with Naziism.

    The list goes on – but one could ascribe most of it to thinking you undertand things that you don’t really understand.

  • Jimbo

    Howard is just another fool. They’re all the same.

  • Massachusetts Progressive

    Mega cigar ash dittos to that one Howard!

    In some respects, yes, America as they know it, or wish it to be, is over.

    I wish these antediluvian right-wingers would just get the fuck out of this country. Just like I hear them bitch about packing up the truck and leaving Massachusetts (most of whom never will; they’ve been saying that for years). Take the slow boat to Antarctica. You can create a Caucasian Corporate/ Christofascist Regime down there for all I care. With global warming, the climate might get quite temperate in Antarctica. It might work out nice for all y’all.

  • Nonsense

    “They can grasp lower taxes and limited gov’t just as much as you can.”

    Really? The average income for an hispanic-headed household in this country is $40k. That household pays little or no taxes, so they have absolutely no interest in lower taxes. Fully half of all housholds headed by Mexican immigrants receive some form of means-tested welfare benefit. They have absolutely no interest in small government.

    Look at the exit poll data for hispanic voters on economic issues. They favor higher taxes on “the rich” and more government entitlement spending, just like the rest of the democrats.

    The notion that by caving on immigration, we are going to turn these people into proponents for economic liberty is a fantasy.

  • Mephistopheles

    Uh, I live in California among large numbers of Mexican immigrants.

    I’m fairly sure that the average Mexican immigrant works far harder than the average white Anglo male.

    In fact, my workplace has a large proportion of Mexican-Americans (born here, with papers) and they do a great job and are great workers. In fact, even though I’m a white male, I like them and they like me. (And thank god for the food they brought! Sure beats the hell out of the food I was raised on.)

    In any case, I wouldn’t worry too much about more immigration. Because of the lousy economy here, we are probably seeing a net emigration of Mexicans from the U.S. these days. Really, you can look it up.

    Hey, I guess from your perspective, austerity does work! By cutting government spending, we’ll turn into a a third world country and no one will want to come here!

  • Gunny G

    The sooner we face America is gone, the sooner we can get about forcing a secession of states and rebuilding a better America. One without liberals and their tainted virus.

  • Winston Smith

    The problem with Reagans amnesty was it wasnt immediately followed up enforcement. Attempting to eject 12-20 million Mexicans including children born here isnt going to happen. If anything like this happens again it would have to be sealing the border FIRST then saying anyone who came here before 2012 and not born here could stay but be assessed a financial penalty for each year theyve been here illegally – otherwise their kids could stay but they would be deported and never allowed back in.

    In an ideal world all illegals would be sent home and be forced to reapply for entry the legal way. The demographics are past the tipping point. Its simply too late to reverse it. Sad to say, but with the mainstream media in full control.

    Unlike some here I dont automatically say all hispanics are worthless and lazy but in large part they do actual work unlike some groups in the US that have become slaves of government handout programs.

    The only deal I would accept is sealing border first to halt the uncontrolled influx of illegals (unknown mix of decent people/violent criminals)and then AND ONLY THEN address the issue of the illegals already here. Any that came here as adults would then have to pay significant financial penalties to pay their debt to American society.

    The only alternative is Democrats continue to use hispanics to destroy whats left of America.

  • Winston Smith

    To discourage future illegals. Use the Mexican Government method. Assess huge penalties against all employers. Like $50,000 per illegal hired. Which would be crippling to any business.

  • Nonsense

    “The problem with Reagans amnesty was it wasnt immediately followed up enforcement.”

    Do you have any faith, any faith at all, that it’s going to be any different this time around?

  • StanInTexas

    The best way to solve this issue is to protect our Southern border with the same laws that Mexico uses to protect it’s Southern border.

  • son of a preacher man

    Confirmation bias followed up by sweeping generalization. Step right up folks, guess the next logical fallacy and win a prize.

  • Spider

    “12 million Mexicans”? That’s just in Mexifornia! Those are phony numbers created and spread by the MSM. How about 30 or 40 million?

    As for Hannity and Krauthammer, well, as i’ve always said, they’re not the conservatives everyone thinks they are. Hannity is ALL about Hannity. He’s all ego and mouth, which is why he’s on the Fox Cartoon Channel. As for Dr. Krauthammer, well, i think the doc has been playing with his own psycho meds. He’s another one of those, “maybe i’m conservative, maybe i’m not” guys.

    The republican party will now give in to whatever the Demoncrats want, simply for their own survival. Besides, they lack the strength and will to do anything else. That should send a very “strong and urgent” message to all true Americans who believe we can still save our country.

  • Ummah Gummah

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    Sean Hannity is the official waterboy™ of the Kuntry Klub Wing of the Republican party.

    He slobbers over the “reverends” Sharpcoon and Jerckson even more than he slobbers over “the architect” I refer to as RINOve, as well as the Bushes, whose ancestors were known Nazi collaborators.

    Hannity is gearing up for a career on npr.. he’s all puckered up already.. he’s just waiting for that call..

    .

  • Ummah Gummah

    Mephistopheles says:
    November 12, 2012 at 11:30 am
    Uh, I live in California among large numbers of Mexican immigrants.

    I’m fairly sure that the average Mexican immigrant works far harder than the average white Anglo male.

    Hmmm.. so WHY can’t they do that in May-hee-KKKoh? it would stand to reason that May-hee-KKKoh would be a whole lot more prosperous than the USA you hate so much if they all worked that hard!

    .

  • Dr. 9

    Here’s a question that should be put to the American people and the elected lying crooks they put in power;

    Suppose, Russia, or China, or N. Korea, or Iran, sent 10-20 Million of their troops to America? They enter the country illegally and unarmed, settle in and start demanding to be cared for? What would the response be, assuming we’re even capable of responding to a real threat?

    Put it a different way:
    What if a group of people broke into your home, settled in and started living there, demanding food, education, medical care, etc. and then telling you that you must pay for it? What, if any, would your response be?

  • Rich

    does anyone watch Hannity any longer!!
    Krauthammer is another who has been pounding the 12 million ilegal alien drum for the past decade..

    CAPS 2007 Study suggests up to 38 million illegal occupy the USA..
    http://www.capsweb.org/content.php?id=57&menu_id=8

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  • IslandLifer

    And out come gnashing prog dogs and their quack. If you haven’t seen what the illegal Mexicans along the southern border states have done to their economy you’re far more stupid than I thought. County hospitals with 14 yr old girls getting knocked up by a guy old enough to be her grandpa because he has a job. Or the 28 year old who’s mouth is lined with gold and now a quad because he decided to do some cocaine with the tequila he already drank, go cruising, and hit a young mother of 4 killing them all. Since Mexico won’t take him guess who foots the bill?? No not you dummy, me because I have a job. Oh and the murder’s wife was happy he was paralyzed so he couldn’t beat her any more. This is a drop in the bucket. I could go on and on but you idiots still would miss the point. And guess what? I’m not going anywhere. I haven’t even touched on the education system or county jails. No you morons really are so far out of tune we might as well throw you away since you’re beyond repair. Quack!

  • http://www.americanclarion.com Dr. Theo

    Howard wrote: “It’s like when you guys claimed Al Queda constituted an existential threat to the US (e.g., the Cold War)- it’s so ignorant of the history of actual existential threats that it was like you had never picked up a history book.”

    You’ve expressed an opinion, Howard, but not one that can be backed-up historically. I definitiely believe Al Qaeda is an existential threat to the west, no less than were the Nazi socialists or the Soviet communists. What in your history books informs you that Islamists, who once devastated and conquered most of the known world and took down such great civilizations as the Persians, the Byzantines, Lebanon, Spain, Egypt, and others, do not threatened the very existence of the US and other western countries? Huh, Howie?

    A typical liberal elitists who makes a few nebulous and provably false statements, with copious use of his thesaurus, then puts is nose in the air and calls everyone else ignorant.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    A more tempered argument against amnesty
    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333128/amnesty-delusion-editors?pg=2

    The GOP does need to do better among Hispanics and other voters, but this is not the way to achieve that — and, more important, it is bad policy. A formal policy of refusing to enforce the law is not obviously the best substitute for an informal policy of refusing to enforce the law.

    But first, credit should be given where it is due: The Obama administration, by keeping economic growth at anemic levels, has managed to control illegal immigration better than most of its predecessors.
    _______

    Hey, I guess from your perspective, austerity does work! By cutting government spending, we’ll turn into a a third world country and no one will want to come here!
    Mephistopheles
    And as everybody knows, nothing attracts foreign investors like confiscatory tax rates feeding a bloated, wasteful government

    But you do get close to the truth in one aspect, those Mexicans are working, while Obama’s supporters lay at home nursing entitlement programs.
    I assert that if we were to finally wean them off the system, the incentive for illegals to come would quickly dry up.

  • Winston Smith

    Nonsense says:
    November 12, 2012 at 11:49 am “The problem with Reagans amnesty was it wasnt immediately followed up enforcement.”

    Do you have any faith, any faith at all, that it’s going to be any different this time around?
    —————

    Thats why enforcedment and sealing the border would have to come FIRST. Then go after employers with huge fines.

    Anyone who thinks states are going to secede are smoking some bad crystal meth. It isnt going to happen. A handful of guys in the woods with arsenals of weapons isnt going to convince the masses to vote for secession. If there were Obama would not have gotten a 2nd term. Such talk just plays into the hands of the leftist propaganda machine.

    I know alot of people here are really racists at heart and think anyone who isnt white is worthless. Such thinking will get us nowhere. Fact is jut attracting the white convervative vote in Presidential elections is going to mean hard core liberal progressives will retain control forever. Most hispanics are open to conservative social and fiscal values – if no attempt is made by the Republican Party to attract them and convince them the conservative way is the right way, it really is game over.

    The threat to America is socialism/communism under the label of PROGRESSIVE LIBERALISM.

    When people actually asks if anyone watches Hannity any more (he wins his ratings timeslot by wide margins) and claim he is a liberal – has really lost touch with reality.

    Sometimes Im not sure if such racists are really liberals in sheeps clothing or actual racists. I guess it doesnt really matter.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    You’ve expressed an opinion, Howard, but not one that can be backed-up historically. I definitiely believe Al Qaeda is an existential threat to the west, no less than were the Nazi socialists or the Soviet communists
    Dr Theo

    Or the Democrat party

  • Nonsense

    “Most hispanics are open to conservative social and fiscal values…”

    Sorry, but the exit poll data don’t bear this out at all.

  • KHarn

    “Mephistopheles says:November 12, 2012 at 11:30 am”

    Go tell MEXICO that alowing ILLEGAL ALIENS is the way to prosperity.

  • http://blog.cutthemalarkey.com Vic Kelley

    I don’t understand this weakness of character either. Do Hannity and others think we lost this election fair and square? Do they think hispanics really voted for obama in large enough numbers to elect him? I think organized colored voting fraud in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Virginia, etc. is to blame for the election malarkey. We do not owe Hispanics amnesty.

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    Alice Novoa assisted in ending Ethnic Studies in Arizona discusses LaRaza and AZTLAN with Manning..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io_JR1p0Ly4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0Ok-HRZC0U

  • Rich
  • Mary

    A beautiful heartfelt piece Dave, and I can tell it most likely broke your part of your heart to have to write it.

    You have been a true soldier these past few years, and I thank you for all your hard work.

  • Beef

    “Recall that Reagan declared amnesty in 1986, with the usual provisions that now the border will be sealed, now we will take our sovereignty and rule of law seriously, yadda yadda yadda. It didn’t stop Obama from getting 71% of the Hispanic vote.”

    That’s just it. The major immigrant groups that are now arriving, no matter where they are from, vote for Statism. On average, 3 out 4 immigrant voters support the democrats. This has nothing to do with racism or bigotry. Mexican, Latin American, and Chinese immigrants could be the greatest, hardest working people in the world; their mass importation is changing the country in a fundamental ways. The people who are already here have a right to oppose change that affects their basic rights and relationship with their government. It is a simple fact that the people who have come to this country over the past 50 years are different in a way that threatens the very essence of America. Our new arrivals come from societies where a dominant central government is a basic fact of life, something to be feared and obeyed and a potential resource to be exploited for those in power, not a “dangerous servant best viewed with suspicion and kept under constant restraint”. The majority of these people neither understand nor want limited government. Nor will they, here in multicultural America, any time soon. They will not be taught American values in the public schools. They will not see them promoted in popular culture. They will instead be taught that traditional America excludes them and their only recourse is the protection offered by the Democratic party.

    For those of us who believe in traditional American values of limited government, this importation of a new people will end the nation that our ancestors fought to establish. The democrats are puposefully supplanting the native population with one that will keep them in power. Our discouse is so debased that even to acknowledge this fact is to be labelled racist by the very people who today so gleefully cheer the death of “old white America”.

  • Sweep the leg

    Pandering, and allowing amnesty (no matter how) will not secure even one more vote for the failed and dead GOP. It’s fucking retarded, but it is the only reason they are for either.

    Policy is for one of two things: more votes, or what is good for the country. Liberal policy is to secure as many votes as possible. Never for what is good for the country (unless you think killing the ideals of the founders is good for the “new” country. They do)

    The two party system is nothing more than a shell game. The GOP is for every damn thing the Liberals are. The only problem is that Liberals beat them to the “garner votes” game, and they do it much better. Only a fool, at this point, believes that the GOP can be “remade” or “fixed”. THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY DESIRE TO FIX ANYTHING.

    No, a third party won’t help one bit. The media is why. Maybe, what, 15% of the population comes to sites like this for facts? 10%?

    With demographics being what they are, and so many fucking retards running around denying reality, the only possible purpose for the GOP is to disseminate those old patriotic values we all used to have. They won’t, and the funny thing? They’d get far more votes, and be able to stay in power far easier, if they stopped pandering.

    We allowed third world behavior, and people, into this country. Now, we are shocked that they want third world goodies, and nothing else?

    Anyone who bought into or buys into, any of the multi-cult is our strength bullshit, is the enemy.

    Just think. It all came crumbling down, so some could hope for a few more votes, and others could bask in the light of “enlightenment”.

    The Founders KNEW what to make of multiculturalism. We sure showed them, huh?

  • Lagnar

    Beef said:

    “The democrats are puposefully supplanting the native population with one that will keep them in power. Our discouse is so debased that even to acknowledge this fact is to be labelled racist by the very people who today so gleefully cheer the death of “old white America”.

    You nailed it.

  • Lagnar

    Since when is “mexican” a race?

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  • Marian

    I wonder if that Massachusetts guy or Howard have ever lived in a border state. Obviously not. I have delivered the checks (plural) to Mexicans on a regular basis. They know exactly what they are doing and encourage friends and relatives to do it, too. Sure, alot of them work, but the women play the free stuff game very well indeed. When the golden goose is dead, America will look like Mexico and Detroit. When the food is gone and the riots start, I hope politicians get lynched first.

  • TruthBeTold

    Posts like these are the reason Latinos don’t vote Republican. If you tell them they are destroying the country why should they vote for you?

    The fact remains, the demographics are against Republicans, people like Dave Blount argue for race war others seek non-violent approaches to the situation.

    And by the way: Only American citizens can vote, so if you want to stop losing more not letting people in isn’t the right approach, but stopping naturalization of immigrants would be. Now that is something I like to see the Republicans argue for.

  • Beef

    “Posts like these are the reason Latinos don’t vote Republican. If you tell them they are destroying the country why should they vote for you?”

    Latinos aren’t destroying the country, they are being used by leftists to achieve the electoral success needed for them to destroy the country.

    Republicans actually believe in a color-blind society, one where people are bound by an idea (individual liberty) not by blood. This vision of a united America no longer works as an electoral appeal, as traditional America has been systematically equated with Racism.

    The idea that immigrants came here because of that idea of liberty, and that they would embrace it fully as they joined the wider society has turned out to be wrong, at least so far. Liberal control of the educational system and of the media culture has effectively blocked that process. They have in large part retained the cultural view of government that they were raised in. Young Americans, desperate to avoid any taint of the great evil racism, seek absolution in the rejection of their cultural heritage. Single women, made destitute by liberalim’s effects on family formation, turn to the government as a surrogate husband. As the leftist coalition of resentment gains power, the anti-white rhetoric becomes more and more explicit.

    Liberalism has amplified and manipulated racial, gender, and class divisions as a route to power. The 50 year strategy has been brilliantly executed, abetted by a clueless Republican hierarchy. The left regularly attacks the right via an elaborate critique of our historic national identity and then tries to galvanize as many people as possible who might be alienated from that identity into a single voting bloc. Groups that are susceptible to that critique (e.g. blacks, browns, and Asians) will continue to vote for the leftist candidate regardless of anything else. Appeals to common interest or even direct appeasement efforts like Reagan’s amnesty have no effect on these voting patterns. They perceive that the non-leftist alternative represents a vision for the country that excludes them. Once this process is underway, the left seeks to checkmate the right in electoral terms by increasingly mobilizing and/or growing these groups via propaganda and immigration.

    This is what is happening. This is why it is not legitimate to dismiss Republican opposition to illegal immigration as simply motivated by bigotry or racism, even though that is exactly how this strategy is advanced.

  • Tchhht!!!

    Beef,

    Beat me to it. Well stated.

  • Nicki Thomas

    Let’s not mince words. The specific type of “liberals” who have worked to displace the majority population of white Christian Europeans would be….the Jews. And their aim is to Holocaust-proof not only this country but every white country on earth, and they are doing this with vicious glee. They scoff that we’re “old and white and we’re history,” while they slam us with massive third world hordes. Just wait til whites wake up and figure out who made the mess. There will be hell to pay.

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