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Nov 20 2012

Congress Could Push Gun Control by the End of the Year

Soft tyranny will inevitably transition to hard tyranny. But this cannot happen so long as the population retains means to defend itself from the government. This is why the Founding Fathers placed so much emphasis on the right to bear arms, and why our Democrat rulers, drunk on victory over the hapless GOP, will soon attempt to disarm us:

The shootings in an Aurora, Colo., theater and the Sikh temple in Milwaukee, Wis., make it “likely that there will be calls in the 112th Congress to reconsider a 1994 ban on semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices,” a November 14, 2012 Congressional Research Service report on “Gun Control Legislation” obtained this morning by Gun Rights Examiner reveals.

The 112th is not the newly elected Congress, but the one in session now.

“This report also includes discussion of other salient and recurring gun control issues that have generated past or current congressional interest,” the summary continues. “Those issues include (1) screening firearms background check applicants against terrorist watch lists, (2) combating gun trafficking and straw purchases, (3) reforming the regulation of federally licensed gun dealers, (4) requiring background checks for private firearms transfers at gun shows, (5) more-strictly regulating certain firearms previously defined in statute as “semiautomatic assault weapons,” and (6) banning or requiring the registration of certain long-range .50 caliber rifles, which are commonly referred to as ‘sniper’ rifles.

That puts the camel’s head well into the tent. If no serious resistance is offered, this incremental approach to repealing the Second Amendment will be pushed further.

Don’t blame the semi-secret CRS; its reports are “meant to be a dispassionate analysis of what has happened and what is likely to occur.”

Of the many frightening aspects of the catastrophic 2012 election, possibly the scariest is the conciliatory attitude of some Republicans, who lately have displayed the demeanor of whipped dogs. Their constituents need to remind them that they are there to put up resistance, not to roll over and show their bellies to collectivist tyrants by cooperating on anti-gun legislation.

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On a tip from Bill T.

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  • F.D.R. in Hell

    If he were down here, I know what Charlton Heston would say…

    “Honey, bring a mop; someone tried to take my shotgun.”

    ;-)

  • StanInTexas

    Molon Labe.

  • http://www.henrypbabcock.com Henry

    μολὼν λαβέ

  • F.D.R. in Hell

    Al Capone said this, this morning at breakfast:

    “You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone.”

    ;-)

  • AC

    Shall not be infringed.

  • http://conservativetruthhq.blogspot.com/ Laurie

    “…possibly the scariest is the conciliatory attitude of some Republicans, who lately have displayed the demeanor of whipped dogs. Their constituents need to remind them that they are there to put up resistance, not to roll over and show their bellies to collectivist tyrants by cooperating on anti-gun legislation.”

    You’re surprised at their conciliatory attitude? The Republicans aren’t going to do anything because their job is to LOSE every battle.

    The GOP is in on the scamming of America. http://tinyurl.com/8cvswdt. They roll over every chance they get because then they keep their cushy 3-day-a-week jobs in which all their expenses are paid. Our job isn’t to “remind” them of anything. Our job now is to route all of them out and replace them with street fighters who will take on the Democrats and win.

    But good luck finding that in the GOP. We’d be better off starting a replacement second party. Because all we have now are a bunch of old men who are protecting their plum retirement packages.

  • AC

    LTC West tried to fight back against Democrats. The ballot boxes were stuffed by socialist apparatchiks and he “lost”

  • http://www.uncommonsqualor.blogspot.com -Sepp

    Yes, our elected “leaders” are morons but, they are smart enough to understand that even toying with the idea of disarmament of the populace is a no-go.
    If they are dumb enough to believe that Americans will roll over and take it like the Brits and Aussies did…they’ll be in for a surprise.

    Most gun owners see the right to bear arms as self defense against government infringements as well as home defense.
    600 million privately owned arms aren’t going to be handed over just because leftist power seekers asked them to be.
    And, if they believe that door-to-door confiscation is an option…it will quickly become the most dangerous job in the world right above that of a suicide bomber…because the suicide bomber still has a small chance of the bomb being a dud.

    Our govt is supposed to operate with “The consent of the governed”.
    When they become so brash that they no longer believe they need OUR consent, it should be obvious to everyone that, that is why we have a 2nd amendment in the first place.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    Time to stock up on popcorn
    Along with a few more “essentials”

    F.D.R. in Hell
    Speaking of Al Capone, once upon a time the Feds had one hell of a time enforcing alcohol prohibition around these parts.

  • Rich

    problem with the link within this posting..

  • 762×51

    ” (2) combating gun trafficking and straw purchases, ”

    If the elitist filth that make up our alleged rulers want to address gun trafficking, they should start with the current and future occupant of the White House. Comrade Chairman Obama and his corrupt government has run guns to every low life on the planet from Mexican Drug Cartels to Al Qaeda in Syria via Libya. They ARE THE PROBLEM and yet will use the issue against us.

    You cannot hope to rid yourself of this kind of evil through elections or courts that they control. Laying down your weapons to these oppressors means slavery for you an your children, period. Once those weapons are gone they can never be retrieved and you will do as you are told, live where and how they tell you to live, work where they tell you at the job they assign you, eat what they allow you to eat, receive the medical care they allow you to have and die at their convenience once you are too old to be of value to the state.

    Or you can fight . . . NOW . . .

  • JDavid

    Chris Christie is an anti-gun guy and the Establishment RINO squishes are already pushing he and Jeb Amnesty Bush for 2016 POTUS candidates:

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/jeb-christie-on-top-for-2016/article/2513852

    They do not want to win, they want to rule as a Democrat-enabler pseudo-party, and have power without accountability.

  • KHarn

    Some fool is going to say that “a rifle can’t stop a tank”; but properly used, IT CAN.

    But think about that: TANKS. Calling out the military (Violating the possie comitatus act) to MAKE WAR on American civilians. That would be the end.

    Also consider this: as pointed out above, there are over six million guns and a couple million gun owners in the civilian population. Some of them are war veterans, many more have served in peace-time. The people will not be facing infantry batallions ALONE, they will join with family, friends and neighbors as well as an unknown number of police and military.

    The neo-commies can have their “workers’ paradise”; all it takes is one big BLOOD BATH and the destruction of everything that makes a civilization.

  • Highway Hospital Student

    762X51

    Absolutely true, but you left out the main effect of disarming the public.

    Namely, that the demographics today favor the criminal lower classes.

    This means that you will need more than ever, but not have the means, to defend yourself against existing criminals and the potential criminals that will surely escalate in number once they know with reasonable certainty that you are not armed.

  • Highway Hospital Student

    I mean a street-war against government is never going to happen.

    Any “war” will be the citizen against the criminal.

    Consider: To destroy the white population, all the government has to do is take away legally-owned guns, then sit back and watch.

    And they can do that. Regardless of all the “lock and load” nonsense on this site, when told, you will meekly hand over your gun to the authorities.

    The logical conclusion is the “Bobby Rush” formulation—i.e., Disarm citizens to make it easier for the criminal.

    From the 2012 election, it is clear (as if it wasn’t before) that blacks and hispanics will not vote for a white, capitalist male if it endangers their entitlements. (Or for that matter, if he’s a white, male.) And neither will lower-class, white liberals if their beer/tattoo money is threatened.

    What do you think any of these groups would do if their entitlements were cut off and there’s a white guy left standing alone on the street corner empty-handed and grinning?

    Certain special incidences notwithstanding, (like Randy Weaver’s), what disarmament really means is fighting criminals barehanded –not some “Red Dawn” shoot-it-out scenario.

    That, then levels out society through a process of violent attrition.

    Machiavelli had nothing on BO.

  • Highway Hospital Student
  • Dadof3

    Sorry HHS, but only some will meekly turn over their weapons.

    The revolution fighters were comprised of only 3 Percent of the population.

    If they start oficially collecting arms it is time to start shooting – not when they come to your house personally. Too late and too little but could still help.

    No, the fight needs to be taken to the squads as they drive to the neighborhoods or as they are raiding your neighbor. Or better yet. Wherever they “rest” between raids. Give them no peace in which to operate. It is evil of them and they should know it or take it to their grave.

    We are everywhere. At some point the ones asked to do it will realize it’s better than 50/50 they won’t come back alive and so refuse to do more harm to Americans by trying to dis-arm them.

    One Guy can do a lot. A neighjborhood will win that fight because then they are taking the position of directly massacring our population to have their way.

    I refuse to live in a totalitarian run society that dis-arms me. Even if they could make all the guns disappear with a wave of a wand the violence will explode since your self-protection has been severely compromised. Hell-on-Earth is one apt description of that world since 10 guys walking down the street may now do whatever they want to you and your loved ones. So I agree with you on what’s next if it would happen.

    I’d rather die trying to stop that than lay down and watch that happen.

    So no. Not all of us will be meek.

    Someone’s going to be hurtin’ if they try. I promise.

    Just one man’s opinion but it’s mine and I have a feeling I’m not alone.

  • Dadof3

    From another traditional legal perspective: This would be an unjust law.

    Which is my starting point. “If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.”

    The second amendment does not give us the right to arms – we have that without it. It is written to prevent the Govt from infringing on that natural right to defense.

    It’s up to us to dis-obey if they finagle things and take a stab at it with an unjust law – and any law that dis-arms us uni-laterally is, by default, unjust.

    For a low brow metaphor on how I see bad laws getting passed… You have to invite the Vampire in or he can’t come in. You are in complete, safe, control – until you give it away to the Vampire. That’s what we have been doing with our law makers. It’s always “for our own good”.

    We keep letting the Govt have more and more of our rights – we win if they just try to TAKE them but if they ask and we give it, then it’s cool? TSA anyone? RFID tags for the kids in school? Us adults get them later, maybe? Cuz it makes so much “sense” for whatever reason you’ll believe on the day they argue for it?

    Why do people keep voting to let the damn Vampires in?

    No self respect? No self awareness of emminant danger? No ability to connect cause and effect from their own actions? Short sightedness?

    Argh.

    I keep thinking of one song from 1971 as these guys try to run every aspect of our lives…

    Particularly this line:

    “You can’t even run your own lives, I’ll be Damned if you’ll run MINE!”

    Sunshine by Jonathon Edwards.

  • Dadof3

    I have an answer on the Vampire being let in.

    No functional grasp of history by the masses.

    The commies “taught” our kids. But the kids did not get a lesson on the why’s and what-happens-when in the deaths of over 100 million last century to these un-free political systems.

    History will repeat this too. Probably a way larger number this time.

  • Sinister66

    KHarn says:

    “there are over six million guns and a couple million gun owners in the civilian population”

    More like over 310 million guns as of 2009. Owned by 2/3 of the american population.

  • Noelegy

    It would be funny if it weren’t so sad: how they think that more laws will stop someone who’s determined to kill. What laws would have stopped these shootings?

  • Rich

    Noelegy…

    these gun grabbers know exactly what they want..

    as far as numbers of guns in the USA – I read articles
    that suggested up to a half billion U.S. guns..

  • 762×51

    Highway Hospital Student says:
    November 20, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    762X51

    Absolutely true, but you left out the main effect of disarming the public.

    Namely, that the demographics today favor the criminal lower classes.

    This means that you will need more than ever, but not have the means, to defend yourself against existing criminals and the potential criminals that will surely escalate in number once they know with reasonable certainty that you are not armed.

    LOL – “knowing” that I’m not armed would be a fatal mistake so let them make it. Elimination of the “criminal lower classes” welfare recipients will have the happy coincidence of eliminating the leftist voting base. Like Islamists you must kill them all if you ever want to be rid of them.

    Highway Hospital Student says:
    November 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    “I mean a street-war against government is never going to happen.”

    Want to bet? Keep thinking that way and you will need a hospital. I suppose you are partially correct, this will be a guerrilla war not just a street war.

    “And they can do that. Regardless of all the “lock and load” nonsense on this site, when told, you will meekly hand over your gun to the authorities.”

    Again – Want to bet? Just try it asshole, I’ll put so many holes in you, you’ll whistle on your way to the ground and not lose a minutes sleep over it.

    When the coming civil war starts the enemy will be the government. True they will use criminals against the traditional Americans who intend to oppose them because criminals associate with criminals. Once the killing starts we will kill until no liberal scum defiles American air, count on it. Doesn’t matter if they are street criminals, or government criminals, all die the same. You liberal filth have started something you cannot finish. I know chicken shit liberals prefer to get others to do their dirty work for them but will not afford you that option. ALL liberals everywhere will be legitimate targets and are to be sot on sight, regardless of where they work or how much “clout” they think they may have. The only man that’s hard to kill is the first one. I’m not afraid to die are you?

    BTW toad – the correct command is “Line of departure, lock and load.” The re-election of the despicable little dictator Barack Obama is the line of departure, the time to lock and load is here.

  • Louie

    I’m sorry, officer. All of my guns were lost in a boating accident, right after I used up all of my ammunition at the range. And no, you can’t come in.

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  • Rich
  • Highway Hospital Student

    Regardless of all the “lock and load” nonsense on this site, when told, you will meekly hand over your gun to the authorities.

    Well, apparently that comment hit a nerve.

    But the current evidence and history bears me out.

    Regardless of the ideal gun battle that you guys imagine for yourselves, (going down heroically in a hail of totalitarian gunfire– captured in a painting suitable for the Smithsonian), that’s not going to be the reality.

    Nor are you going to be joined by compatriots to fight a justifiable guerrilla war against the forces of evil, Red Dawn style.

    I know it sounds good; I used to play those games too when I was six.

    But here are the facts:

    Most people don’t do anything.

    You won’t get 3% popular support to man the ramparts. There won’t be any ramparts; reality just won’t provide the opportunity.

    People give up. Or if one or two disenfranchised nutcases want a revolution, they’ll go off and find a Waco-style organization and then eventually go home and take a bath.

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but consider this.

    (1) New Orleans after Katrina. Cops went door-to-door confiscating guns. Where was the revolution?

    (2) Australia. A massive gun collection operation. Guns all over the country were rounded up and destroyed. People surrendered.

    NYC. There, only criminals have guns. The possession of a gun can get you a mandatory year in jail. Where’s the 2nd amendment? Where’s the outrage? Where’s the justice?

    Even if you had some kind of a shoot-out opportunity, it would probably end more like Randy Weaver than Rambo.

    In Weaver’s case, 300-400 agents stood around laughing while one of them shot his wife, Vicki, while she was standing in her doorway holding her baby. Then they shot Weaver’s dog just to feel better about themselves. Weaver was a Green Beret and a survivalist. How are you any better?

    In fact, Weaver surrendered. He couldn’t get his Rambo up. I understand. People surrender.

    And they give up their guns time and again.

    .

    Now maybe 762X51, you’re Rambo and maybe you’ll get your shoot out. But history is not with you as far as a revolution goes.

    You’ve got to have something to revolt against.

    There won’t be a massive Australian-style gun hunt in the U.S.

    There will be a constant erosion of gun ownership, ammo sales, right-to-carry, stand-your-ground laws, castle laws with an uptick in show-trial prosecutions designed to terrorize gun owners and gun dealers.

    Amongst other tactics. A lot of states have unconstitutional gun laws and people obey them.

    BO and Eric Holder are obsessed with gun control because it disarms citizens and allows criminals greater advantage. Those criminals are BO’s people and he will bring down the full force of step-by-step legislation or Fast&Furious programs to aid, protect and service them.

    In the meantime, legislators like Darrel Issa have hearings and do nothing.

    We’re headed into a U.N. intervention in gun trade. It will likely end gun shows. Won’t happen? It can and it will. If he can’t get congress to go along with it, BO can sign off on a UN treaty under executive order.

    .
    BTW speaking of revolution – now’s the time.

    Where’s the outrage about the U.N. observers at the 2012 election?

    Now’s the time to act. But where is everyone?

    The election was taken by fraud and foreign money. Where’s the recount? Where’s the outrage? Where’s the investigations? Where are the demonstrations? Where’s the pundits and conservatives and million-man marches? Where are your revolutionaries?

    .

    Nothing.

    And more nothing.

    .

    Anyway, back to your favorite subject:
    Suppose you, personally, individually are actually targeted by the authorities. You’re writing in your diary everyday about the ensuing gun battle. You have a basement full of rounds and assorted reloads you’ve painstakingly made.

    You’re waiting for the big day… but then, nothing happens.

    Nope. But later, one afternoon, maybe a year later in the canning factory lunchroom at work, you look up from your fried-potato sandwich and see 10 or 12 heavily-armed, goons standing around your table.

    You will put down your sandwich and go quietly.

  • 762×51

    Highway Hospital Student says:
    November 21, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Regardless of all the “lock and load” nonsense on this site, when told, you will meekly hand over your gun to the authorities.

    Well, apparently that comment hit a nerve.

    But the current evidence and history bears me out.

    YOUR history bears you out. The history of cowards and sheep bears you out, they are your people. The sheep will inevitably be sheared, that is their fate, they accept it willingly and I don’t care what happens to them.

    Cowards like you are completely unaware of the existence of courage and have never grasped the concepts of duty and honor so your ramblings do not surprise me. When the Marxist totalitarians come you will bend over and smile for them I have no doubt. I will not because it screws up my sight picture.

    See sonny, I learned to kill Communists when I was 18 and I still remember how. I’m an old guy now, not Rambo, meaning I’m too old to run and gun as we did in the olden days. Overwatch is my game now, not that an elitist left wing troll like you knows that term. It means I will see you in my reticule and you will never know it, nor will you hear the shot. We learned lots of little tricks from Charlie in the day that will soon be useful and you filthy commie scum are going to HATE every one of them.

    “Weaver was a Green Beret and a survivalist. How are you any better?”

    Randy Weaver probably was a better soldier than I and he was younger at the time than I am now. The difference jack hole is that Randy Weaver had young children and his unarmed wife had already been murdered. I do not have children who would be orphaned by my death, they are grown and can take care of themselves. There remains that duty and honor thing you will never understand. I WILL pass on freedom to those children as is my moral duty, it is a matter of honor and if it means my death so be it. Chicken shit roll overs like you will never get that, you just enjoy the ride that someone else paid for with their life. As the saying goes “You sleep soundly in your bed because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do you harm.”

    One other thing, when people go to the store and cannot afford food or there is no food on the shelves and they cannot feed their children, the fight is on. They will do what the have to do to feed those children. The Marxist government will not be able to feed them because they will have no money left having spent us into oblivion. Street gangs will not be able to feed them because they cannot even feed themselves. Current police protection in the cities averages 1 cop for every 400 people nationwide. Want to bet that one cop cannot control 400 people in an angry mob? At that point the military will have to be called in and at least half, if not more, will refuse to enforce tyranny. The stage will be set and there will be civil war.

    Your erroneous vision decries the lack of “million man marches”. First, I am not Calypso Louie Farrakhan. Second, conservatives have NEVER put on massed demonstrations in the streets, that is a Marxist trait. Third, modern weapons do not lend themselves to massed attacks, thus the guerrilla warfare strategy. You go ahead and mass in the streets, makes you a better target for the enemy. Guerrillas do not mass for attacks because it makes them vulnerable to the superior firepower of the oppressor. Tens of thousands of guerrillas acting independently and attacking a wide variety of targets in geographically diverse areas is far more effective. I don’t have any followers and don’t want any but there are thousands who know we have a common enemy, government.

    People obey the current unconstitutional laws and are not revolutionaries because it has not been worth going to war to oppose them. Instead they have tried to change them through the mechanisms supplied by the founders. That system has now been subverted and corrupted by the left to the point that it no longer functions leaving civil war or slavery as the only options. You keep living in dream world, I’ll keep preparing for war, both of us will probably die but only one of us will die free with honor. The other will die a sniveling slave because you lack the courage to act alone.

    Those 10 or 12 heavily armed men better bring at least three body bags with them and know which two of them are willing to die because I will kill at least two of them before they get me into the other bag. See unlike metro-sexual weenies like you, I am ALWAYS armed.

    Oh, incidentally, guerrillas don’t use ramparts. That is because ramparts are a feature of what the military calls fixed fortifications and guerrillas don’t have fixed fortifications. Not having fixed fortifications, bases or resupply lines are the defining characteristics of being a guerrilla fighter.

    You should at least have a passing knowledge of the terminology and under lying concepts before throwing them around. I wonder how many other strategic and tactical errors your thinking may contain?

  • Highway Hospital Student

    761X50,

    If there were a guerrilla-style war in America, you would definitely be excluded from the troops. In order to be a good fighter, you have to have the ability to reason – not bluster.

    You’re so intent on finding the enemy, you can’t recognize who the enemy is and who the enemy isn’t.

    See, my dogs attack on command, but they’re not great at reading and understanding my posts. You need to learn the difference.

    Example:

    Second, conservatives have NEVER put on massed demonstrations in the streets, that is a Marxist trait. You apparently forgot about Glenn Beck’s Restoring Honor rally.

    Again, a totally bad judgement call coming from a hair-trigger blunderbuss.

    When you do these kind of things it makes people think that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Don’t be such a fool.

  • 762×51

    Highway Hospital Student says:
    November 21, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    761X50,

    “Second, conservatives have NEVER put on massed demonstrations in the streets, that is a Marxist trait. You apparently forgot about Glenn Beck’s Restoring Honor rally. ”

    Highway Douchebag – Beck’s Restoring Honor was not a demonstration and only a dirty little Marxist sympathizer like you would think that it was.

    Please tell us all about your extensive experience with guerrilla fighters and guerrilla warfare and go slow. . . Sorry sonny, I was laughing so hard I had to stop typing.

    “You’re so intent on finding the enemy, you can’t recognize who the enemy is and who the enemy isn’t.”

    Seriously? If you don’t want to be identified as the enemy then maybe you should stop wearing his uniform and obeying his orders.

    Hair trigger? What a part of the last fifty years have you missed moron? Your leftists friends have been continuously working to destroy America since the Civil Rights Act of 1964 when you put blacks back on your plantation. Overseer Obama has finalized that strategy and fully collared his fellow blacks. They will never be free of leftist oppression. While I can easily make the case that FDR actually began the movement by exploiting the 1929 Stock Market Crash and Depression, your concerted, continuous efforts began in 1964 and have not stopped since LBJ. I have lived through those years and worked within the system for ALL of them so for a pimply socialist whiner like you to say my positions are hair trigger makes me laugh and exposes your naivety, ignorance and weakness through your own words.

    You have shown yourself to be an enemy collaborator and you should know that in the coming days, the penalty for collaboration will be death, in my AO. That is because guerrillas lack the facilities to hold and feed prisoners. I may never see you but I will think of you in the days ahead every time I drop one of your co-conspirators on the street.

    Finally, since I, unlike you have actually fired a blunderbuss, I take that as a compliment. See little man, unlike you, I was a stone cold killer at age 19, courtesy of the US military. It has been almost 40 years since I practiced that trade but you do not forget those lessons, you just lose the ability to execute some of the tactics. Tactics can be adapted however, something I have been working on for years, so go to bed tonight with the knowledge that there are wolves outside your door. Your “attack on command” dogs will be the first casualties of those wolves when we come for you. That is unless they are inside humping your partner at the time.

    Meanwhile, your TV only experience with guns and combat, as evidenced by your lack of understanding what 762×51 means, has severely diminished your ability to see what is happening around you, your elitist attitude has severely diminished your ability to relate to those around you and your Marxist education has severely diminished your understanding of what REAL Americans will do to stop your pseudo-utopia.

    “Don’t be such a fool.”

    Die screaming those words in agony you elitist filth.

  • Dadof3

    HHS will by thought of kindly by any new overlords since he is trying to extingush any flame or even ember of resistance.

    “Lay down and die – don’t even try!” is his consolation.

    F.Y. HHS

    8)

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