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Nov 27 2012

Marijuana: The Truth

Somehow I doubt they will be calling upon Steven Crowder to lecture at California’s new Humboldt Institute for Interdisciplinary Marijuana Research — although this proves that they certainly ought to:

You can expect marijuana to be not only legal but subsidized by your tax dollars in the foreseeable future, for the same reason the government subsidizes poverty. A stoned electorate is a compliant electorate.

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  • Jim

    Here’s your future ,baby…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaRXBAkMZ2k

  • TonyD95B

    RE:Jim at November 27, 2012 at 5:31 pm:

    Back at ya, Jim……with a classic Public Service Announcement:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCSt6Kobvzs

    Yeah……smoke pot and…….NOTHING WILL HAPPEN!!! hahahahahah

  • http://popmogul.com/ Buffoon

    Legalize it!

  • Highway Hospital Student

    For those of you not completely oriented toward the biology, here’s the take-home:

    The body has enzymes to metabolize alcohol. That is, it is excreted quickly and efficiently.

    The body does not have enzymes to metabolize THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) efficiently. THC is also lipophilic; meaning that it is absorbed in the fatty material (glia) of the brain. And sits there for a while (decades?).

    The “nondangerous” aspect of marijuana is a myth derived from the fact that there is not an immediate adverse effect—like a stroke. It is therefore “safe”.

    Until you account for brain rot that occurs over time.

  • Tax Slave

    Most of the people who still smoke pot after college are stupid.

    Which is cause and which is effect?
    Are they stupid because they smoke pot?
    or do they smoke pot BECAUSE THEY ARE STUPID?

    Make that STOOOOOOOOOOOPID!

  • Catherine

    Highway, thank you for posting some detail about pot. It is also supposed to be harder on the lungs than tobacco when it is smoked. (Sorry I don’t have exact terminology and detail).

    Just saw that TIME magazine nominated “Sandra Fluke” for Person of the Year. I guess she has done her part to improve life for skanks from coast to coast that “NEED taxpayer funded birth control”. About as amazing a contribution to mankind as MaObama made to earn his Pulitzer!

  • Highway Hospital Student

    Catherine,

    Thanks for your interest. To answer your question, it is unknown exactly how much potential carcinogenic activity is associated with cannabis.

    The FDA has done regular 2-year studies in animals and has not found resultant cancers.

    Nor do long-time users seem particularly prone to cancerous growths.

    However, long-term smoking cannot be modeled accurately in animals. And any type of smoking material produces a wide range of carcinogens or pro-carcinogens, such as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons.

    One possible reason for the absence of cancers in users may be that marijuana also has anticancer potential. It does produce apoptosis— which is a last line defense against uncontrolled cellular proliferation.

    Marijuana has analgesic potential against cancer pain and may have other anticancer properties. Controlled studies have not been done for political reasons and because of the vilification of pharmaceutical companies by their governments.
    .

    As for Sandra Fluke, given the aberrant pronunciation of her name, I am hoping that someone will name a University after her.

  • Ummah Gummah

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    With the GOP quickly morphing into dRAT Lite, throwing the TEA Party under the bus and CAVING on taxes and everything else, has anyone seen or heard of any alternatives beginning to present themselves?

    They’re already floating that old turd jebbie Bush for 2016. Can you imagine Jebbie running vs. Hitlery in 2016?

    BARF!

    The Republicans are committing suicide as we speak.

    Hey, Repugs, READ MY LIPS: 2014 promises to be VERY UGLY…

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  • Spider

    Still think you live in a free country? Think again.

    http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/11/27/e-mail-privacy-or-piracy/

  • Ummah Gummah

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    The Republicans have been smoking too much weed recently.. WHO is the alternative to these jellyfish?

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  • Catherine

    Somehow, I don’t think I’d want to say I graduated from “Fluke U”… LOL! Thanks for the giggle thought Highway!

  • AC

    Federal marijuana laws need to be struck down. The Tenth Amendment is more important than trying to keep a bunch of hippie burnouts sober (which is a miserable failure).

    Weed is illegal and yet look at the aging hippie in Jim’s video.

    The war on marijuana is an expensive failure. That spending needs to be stopped and tens of billions of dollars pumped back into the economy with more tax cuts.

  • Dr. 9

    The so-called “war on drugs”, like the Viet Nam war, was meant to be fought, not won. There’s no money to be made in winning a war, but tons of it fighting one. All drugs should be legalized. Give them all they want. Can you think of a faster way to rid society of all the junkies?

  • Ummah Gummah

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    Who elected McLAME and Grahamnesty the new leaders of the GOP?

    http://www.lauraingraham.com/b/McCain-and-Graham-to-meet-with-Susan-Rice/540722892033067405.html

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  • Ummah Gummah

    Dr. 9 says:
    November 27, 2012 at 9:05 pm
    The so-called “war on drugs”, like the Viet Nam war, was meant to be fought, not won. There’s no money to be made in winning a war, but tons of it fighting one. All drugs should be legalized. Give them all they want. Can you think of a faster way to rid society of all the junkies?

    I agree, but keep them OFF the roads where they have a chance to kill others.

    And they need to PAY for their own drugs.

    Junkies getting free methadone in downtown NY were urinating all over the nearby streets and breaking into places at night o they could buy heroin to add to their methadone.

    .

  • Ummah Gummah

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    Other than that.. give them all they can handle and more. Heck, we should send Obama as much choom as he can smoke until 2016!

    Keep the guy zonked out and inactive as much as possible.. where he can do no harm..

    .

  • Jester

    Exactly, Highway Hospital & Tax Slave. I love the libtard mantra of “IT CAUSES NO DEATHS!! IT CAUSES NO DEATHS!! IT CAUSES NO DEATHS!!” repeated ad nauseum, as if that alone makes it the perfect wonder-drug. Idiots.

    Speaking of idiots, let’s talk about side-effects. Why does no one (but me) ever ask the 800-lb-gorilla-in-the-living-room question: “If American academics are the best-educated people on earth, why do they all advocate the one drug which destroys their intelligence the most?”

    Coincidence? I think not.

    P.S.: If you happen to be lucky enough to talk to one of the few honest potheads, s/he will grudgingly admit to the copious quantities of brownish-black lung butter s/he coughs up each and every morning. Fun!

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    A family member suffering from Multiple Sclerosis talks about the incessant pressure by the Medical Marijuana lobby to join their cause by trashing the pharmaceutical industry and the drugs that help her to cope day by day with this disease.
    They cite studies that imply anecdotal evidence of pain relief, balance, and muscle stiffness.
    However the reality is that these effects lasted less than three hours,could not be confirmed with testing, and came with nasty side effects that were worse than any “cure”
    http://www.nationalmssociety.org/about-multiple-sclerosis/what-we-know-about-ms/treatments/complementary–alternative-medicine/marijuana/index.aspx
    These people will play on fear, use high pressure tactics, and outright lie to those with terminal illness to get their high for an ingrown toenail.

  • Jester

    Thanks for the link, Ghost. Once in a while one of my clients asks for hard info like this, which I’ll be sure to share.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    I also agree that the war on drugs has been a miserable failure and should be ended.
    However I believe employers should be able to reserve the right to can a user of any drug if they so choose.
    I cannot understand how one can claim pot as a medicine, and as a disability at the same time

  • AC

    Speaking of idiots, let’s talk about side-effects. Why does no one (but me) ever ask the 800-lb-gorilla-in-the-living-room question: “If American academics are the best-educated people on earth, why do they all advocate the one drug which destroys their intelligence the most?”

    Alcohol is far more destructive to cognition than marijuana, and yet we allow it now, having decided that destructive drunkards swilling Budweiser are a lesser evil than destructive drunkards patronizing Al Capone.

    We can’t get rid of weed or those who abuse it. We need to accept this and craft public policy which does not loot sober job creators to futilely try and keep thugs, losers, and grungy hippies from destroying their own minds.

    P.S.: If you happen to be lucky enough to talk to one of the few honest potheads, s/he will grudgingly admit to the copious quantities of brownish-black lung butter s/he coughs up each and every morning. Fun!

    So do cigarette smokers. At least my tax dollars aren’t being wasted chasing after self-destructive nicotine addicts.

  • Sam Adams

    any type of smoking material produces a wide range of carcinogens or pro-carcinogens, such as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons.
    ______________

    Translation…black crap that the federal government would require you to handle, treat, and dispose of as hazardous waste.

    I, too, agree that the federal war on drugs has been a dismal failure. Like most activities, drugs is something that is properly handled by the states. Rational, reasonable states will continue to make it illegal to consume most recreational drugs. A few liberal states will embrace legalizing drugs, and their population will suffer as a result.

    Alcohol is far more destructive to cognition than marijuana, and yet we allow it now, having decided that destructive drunkards swilling Budweiser are a lesser evil than destructive drunkards patronizing Al Capone.

    The arguments being made here are quite interesting. It does, indeed appear that in the short term, alcohol can have a much more potent effect than marijuana. Clearly, enough alcohol will kill anyone. My chemistry teacher explained “all alcohols are poison; they just differ in the level of their toxicity.”

    However, the argument about marijuana not being metabolized is quite persuasive and not common knowledge. Therefore, the long term effects are the ones we should be most concerned with.

    Of course, once we are fundamentally transformed, few people will smoke marijuana. They will not have enough income to be able to afford the habit.

  • Nathaniel M

    The opiate of the masses is now…. uh the opiate/caniboid of the masses? Great. Drunk drivers + stoned drivers, but hey this is S. O. P. out here in CA.

  • CR

    Don’t like marijuana? Then don’t consume it, simple as that. I don’t drink and I don’t tell others not to do so. THC itself cannot harm a person, since the human body manufactures cannabinoids such as endocannabinoids in order to function. Our bodies contain cannibinol receptors because it’s an expected compound within the body. Ethyl alcohol is a toxin. Our bodies must produce enzymes to metabolize it so we don’t die. Alcohol can and will kill you via overdose but THC is not capable of causing death. Given a choice, I for one choose the non-toxic, non-flammable, naturally occurring THC.

    In addition, marijuana plants produce fuel via seed oils and fibers that are better and cheaper than cotton or nylon. Fermenting alcohols waste food and energy, and creates everyone’s favorite boogeyman; carbon-dioxide.

    It is easy to find idiots among us. An idiot who consumes marijuana is still an idiot.

  • Page

    Pretty sure “hippies” aren’t the only ones out there smoking weed. Get your heads out of your a@&es.

  • zionist liberal

    Highway Hospital Student

    Heard of anandamide? other endogenous cannabinoids? quit fronting, you look like a dumbass. you christfags should call the Lord Jehovah to the stand to prosecute Him for creating seed-bearing plants for the use of man. Furthermore, your bowdlerized, mangled mistranslation of a “bible” glosses over the fact that one of the chief ingredients of the holy anointing oil and temple incense is קנה בשם aka kneh bosem aka “cane perfume” i.e. cannabis. this site is great though, so many lulz to be hate – i’m a liberal but not a leftard, which means i hate wingnuts just marginally less than moonbats. keep up the good show old chaps!

  • Sam Adams

    CR says:
    November 28, 2012 at 6:37 am

    Don’t like marijuana? Then don’t consume it, simple as that. I don’t drink and I don’t tell others not to do so.
    _____________

    Hummm…..so you wouldn’t tell your 16 year old son not to drink as he drives your car to a Saturday night party with a bunch of friends?

    It is obvious that anyone who takes substances which alter brain function is ALTERING BRAIN FUNCTION. You can’t escape the consequences of altering brain function.

  • M. Wilson

    The “natrual plant” argument is stupid in the extreme. Poison ivy is natural, want to try some? So are poison sumac, poison oak, castor beans (mmm, ricin), hemlock, yew, nightshade, daphne, and mistletoe.

    While a number of the above plants have practical uses when sufficiently processed to remove their toxic components (castor oil, for example) none of them would be safe to consume as-is. Just because it’s natural doesn’t mean it’s safe. In fact, sometimes the processed product is better.

    Now, if you believe the Federal government doesn’t have the authority to regulate drug use in such a manner, that’s a valid Constitutional arguments and we can discuss that, but I would ask you to be intellectually consistent and also oppose banning salt, sugar, and other “junk foods” as His Majesty Bloomberg does in the Kingdom of New York and refrain from using such infantile fallacies as “it’s natural!” or proven falsehoods as “it’s harmless!”.

  • AC

    The natural plant argument is usually made in a certain context or with a certain undertone.

    See Genesis 1:29.

    The argument goes that government can’t take away what was given by God. The argument they make does not necessarily sanction every use of every plant; it only goes against what is perceived as “human arrogance” in trying to declare a specific plant as being unfit for existence after God already deemed it worthy of creation.

    A similar argument is made against the extremist animal rights moonbats under Genesis 1:28. Usually this is in reference to idiots like Peter Singer wanting to equate the rights of man with the rights of animals.

  • Keith in Seattle

    I know there will be people that don’t believe this but the Operating system MOST of you used to make your posts and the OS that Steve used to process this video was… Believe it or not… Coded by ppl that smoke pot. Yes, it’s true. They don’t require pee tests at Microsoft. If they did, they would lose half the employees. Pot, if used CORRECTLY like any other medication, is not a problem. New studies have even shown that some of the cannibinoids actually PROMOTE brain growth. This scientist thinks that pot causes psychosis, she’s the one with the psychosis. I use it for medicinal purposes, work for microsoft and make a damn good wage. I’m conservative, raised conservative children and have good common sense.

  • M. Wilson

    Considering how many of them were in college in the 70’s, they probably did LSD too. That doesn’t make LSD a brain boosting wonder-drug. Maybe if they didn’t fry their brains with hallucinogens they would have fewer bugs, fewer security holes, and better customer service.

    Considering the long-standing correlation between marijuana use and declining school grades (not to mention the dropout rate) I’m going to have to call your bluff on your so-called “studies”. Data or it didn’t happen. Why should we take your word over a specialist in the field?

    The only pro-pot argument that even comes close to holding water is the question of Constitutional authority, and if you want to use that with even a shred of intellectual integrity you have to accept all the other bans that would be made impossible or repealed on those grounds.

  • Comrade J

    Ironic to see so much outright dismissal going on from the pot heads. You see they are correct, because… they said so. It’s “science”, “science” they tell you. Their “grown brains” are so much superior to yours. There is “research” proving they are right, out there…

    If any other reasons are needed to continue to ban this drug, just look at the users.

  • Tax Slave

    Since pot is allegedly NOT habit-forming, I can condemn as stoopid and irresponcible any moron who continues to smoke the sh/t EVEN AFTER THEY LEGALIZE IT.

    If you want to work for me, don’t smoke pot, ’cause if you do, YOU’RE FIRED–EVEN AFTER THEY LEGALIZE IT.

    I’m more down on pot than I am on tobacco, because tobacco is addictive yet pot is not (allegedly).

    Legalize pot? Sure. Smoke it anywhere you actions might affect me, Hell no!

  • Nathaniel M

    “Legalize pot? Sure. Smoke it anywhere you actions might affect me, Hell no!”

    Walk around downtown San Francisco and enjoy the aromatics. Pot is smoked openly and the smell hits you just as hard as a bad/cheap cigar if not worse. I’m f***in’ tired of coming out of a downtown retail store w/ my wife while Xmas shopping and having that disgusting stench slap me upside the head. It’s ubiquitous with the homeless encampments as well.

  • son of a preacher man

    To whom it may concern

    Please learn the difference between inductive and deductive reasoning.

  • Jester

    AC says:

    Alcohol is far more destructive to cognition than marijuana

    But only when one is under its influence. Ever notice how marijuana users are stupid ALL OF THE TIME?

  • JustAl

    Here! Here! Let’s cheer again for the noble police state and it’s $3B war on a simple deciduous plant and personal liberty.

    After all, the police state we build to enforce our opinions on our fellow citizens could, would never be used against us. . .

    Sorry boys and girls, only self righteous fools, the trial lawyers association, and DNC supporting police and prison unions think prohibition is the business of the federal government.

  • JustAl

    By the way, as far as the ad homonym theme here.

    Yes, many years ago when going to college I smoked regularly. It made me so stupid I not only finished my Chemistry degree in four years but accepted a job as a research chemist with a fortune 12 company before getting my diploma. Yeah, it made me pretty stupid I guess. . .

  • Comrade J

    @JustAl,

    Interestingly you choose to use Ad Hominems and red herring instead of, say your chemistry degree, or at least a logical argument. And then beat yourself in the chest proclaiming how smart you are. Ok…

    Anyone else wants to disprove the observation made about Pot users, by doing the very thing that the observation… ahem.. observes?

  • This Is Untrue

    This whole story is completely biased to begin with. Nobody has ever considered other people and how it helps them in there day to day life. People these days are not properly educated enough to make all these assumptions, they are just people who have probably never even tried the plant or don’t even need to because they have no type of illness they need it for. I am 18 and have depression and anxiety. I have gone through psychology courses and seen a psychiatrist. I have gone to the point where I just hate life because of my illness’s. Over the time I was seeing these doctors I was prescribed many medications, more than someone should ever have to go through to find results. None of which helped me at all. But you know the one thing that finally cured my two illness’s… Marijuana.
    Educate yourselves. Nobody is saying marijuana is exactly the best alternative for most people but for many it truly is.

  • Vesus

    These comments are just proof that most conservatives have no interest in small government or liberty. They simply want a government that enforces their narrow view of what is moral and acceptable.

    “Screw freedom, I don’t want hippies smoking that reefer!” Bunch of hypocrites who probably suck back a 12 pack every night.

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