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Dec 17 2012

Even IPCC Is Abandoning Debunked Global Warming Hoax

The UN’s odious Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has been a prime driver of the global warming hoax, even stooping so low as to win a Nobel Peace Prize for its shrill and pernicious propaganda. But now the IPCC admits that the jig is up. A leaked draft of its report AR5 confesses that it is the sun that makes the earth warm, not SUVs or affordable light bulbs. Via Watts Up With That:

The admission of strong evidence for enhanced solar forcing changes everything. The climate alarmists can’t continue to claim that warming was almost entirely due to human activity over a period when solar warming effects, now acknowledged to be important, were at a maximum. The final draft of AR5 WG1 is not scheduled to be released for another year but the public needs to know now how the main premises and conclusions of the IPCC story line have been undercut by the IPCC itself.

The report also admits that despite all the hysterical lies “journalists” shriek in the mainstream media, the warming predicted by IPCC models has not occurred.

However, due to the state of abject ignorance in which the media keeps the American public, these revelations are unlikely to stop Obama and his crony capitalist pals from inflicting economically crippling carbon taxes in the name of a “crisis” now admitted to be a fiction.

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The mainstream media would still have us believe.

On tips from Artfldgr and Bob Roberts.

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  • Clingtomyguns

    Not to worry, Obama will act, as he has been doing, by executive fiat, using the rogue EPA to propogate this hoax with massive amounts of crippling regulation. He can’t afford to let a good crisis go to waste or get bogged down in with damning facts.

  • Dano

    IF you are dumb enough to believe that an out-of-context quote mine means the IPCC is ‘abandoning’ climate change, then the entire planet hopes you never reproduce.

    Spare us all and get a vasectomy today.

    Best,

    D

  • Ummah Gummah

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    Hey Libs:

    Save the Earth
    Kill Yourselves

    PS. I don’t really know about the Earth but it would do wonders for America.

    .

  • TheChaoticStorm

    Real climatologists have known this all along. The sun drives all weather and climate on Earth, and human beings have been taking semi-reliable temperature measurements for a miniscule fraction of time in Earth’s history. We cannot make such audacious claims about human activity’s influence with any bastion of confidence or truth.

    I have a meteorology degree. Not a single one of my professors believed in AGW. One of them even spent a few class periods debunking the theory with things that alarmists seem to ignore – facts!

    Climate change is real because the climate of our planet is always changing and always has been. However, narrow-minded fixation on human activity being the prominent cause is, quite frankly, ridiculous.

  • Dano

    Save the Earth
    Kill Yourselves

    6) 2 points– Suggesting to those who accept AGW that they need to stop breathing (2 more points
    for telling them to live in a cave, not drive, or the like)

    and

    he sun drives all weather and climate on Earth…Climate change is real because the climate of our planet is always changing and always has been

    16) 10 points– Pointing out that the sun actually influences climate…1) 2 points– letting us know that climate is always changing

    http://chriscolose.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/quantifying-skeptical-arguments/#more-293

    finally

    I have a meteorology degree. Not a single one of my professors believed in AGW.

    I call BS.

    I was a weatherman on the ground, practicing for pay, and went back to college for a bioclimatology degree. None of my professors said that AGW was a hoax or any such nincompoopery.

    Smarter denialists/sockpuppets please.

    Best,

    D

  • Ummah Gummah

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    Uh, buddy, the only sock puppy here is U. The regs on MB know who is real and who is not, thank you very much.

    Second, I don’t give a f*ck what kind of a degree u have.

    Obama has a law degree and I still think he’s the WORST PRESIDENT AMERICA HAS EVER HAD and YES, I am aware of Jimmy Carter.

    So take your degree and carefully place it where there’s lots of warming and the sun don’t shine.

    .

  • Dano

    Second, I don’t give a f*ck what kind of a degree u have…So take your degree and carefully place it where there’s lots of warming and the sun don’t shine.

    hurhurhurhur!

    LOLz aside, it matters when someone is calling BS on an obviously made up anecdote.

    Folks with some education understand that. Those who don’t like the Enlightenment because it refutes their worldview and self-identity make up outrage to shout down Enlightenment principles and argumentation.

    HTH.

    Best,

    D

  • Kevin R.

    That’s the draft. They’ll probably get a lot of signatures on that and then change it for the final version to whatever they want and claim that there is everyone agreed and signed on to the conclusions – though it be completely different than what was signed.

    They’ve did it before. But who knows.

  • Ummah Gummah

    Those who don’t like the Enlightenment because it refutes their worldview and self-identity make up outrage to shout down Enlightenment principles and argumentation.

    U talkin’ ’bout ur friends from the Religion of Peace™ ?

    .

  • Ummah Gummah

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    @ Kevin R.

    Your word in Dano Boy’s ear. After all, he has SOME eduMACation.

    LOL

    .

  • TheChaoticStorm

    *Shrug* Whether you believe me or not does not make it any less true. I applaud them for standing up against a politically correct worldview.

    If you’d like to debate the issue of AGW without resulting to insults, be my guest. Otherwise I’d rather not waste my time.

    I can list several examples of problems with current climate monitoring systems that cause a bias in recorded temperatures. Things such as urban sprawl around monitoring sites and careful placement of sensors have to be considered.

    Also, even if AGW does exist due to human-based GHG emissions, the effect would would be miniscule compared to natural climate forcing mechanisms.

  • Ummah Gummah

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    If RG3 ever wants his Black Cred back, he better start killing a lot of white people:

    http://blackamericaweb.com/80556/black-women-is-rg3-down-with-me/

    And I thought Jews were neurotic..

    .

  • Dano

    Things such as urban sprawl around monitoring sites and careful placement of sensors have to be considered.

    You’ll recall Tony found that the difference in his crowdsourced try was essentially the same as the other studies. That his result was buried because it was inconvenient clouds your assertion, but still.

    Nevertheless, assertions like the effect would would be miniscule compared to natural climate forcing mechanisms were refuted long ago (hence the game I linked to above), and denialists have nothing but the same tired, refuted talking points (every single one at the link above – they have nothing new).

    Denialists have no testable hypotheses, no body of evidence, no library of empirical papers, no equations, no data, no methods, no scribbles on a napkin to explain why basic physics works in every square centimeter of the universe except for here on good ol’ planet earth, so I have no idea what you’d be discussing.

    That, and to reiterate, none of my professors were denialists. It is true there are some recalcitrant TeeVee meteorologists who refuse to know better, but very very few in academia. As your oh-so-familiar “story” that I’ve seen several times over the years illustrates.

    HTH.

    Best,

    D

  • Mr Evilwrench

    “Denialists have no testable hypotheses, no body of evidence, no library of empirical papers, no equations, no data, no methods, no scribbles on a napkin…”

    The hysterics’ hypotheses are no more testable. Much of their evidence has been shown to have been cherry picked, massaged, simply made up, in other words, corrupt. Garbage in, garbage out.

    All they have supporting their claims are the outputs of some “models” that eat these corrupt data, and have you seen how these models represent the Earth? Talk about flat earthers, right there ya go. The models are literally of a flat Earth, and that’s just the beginning of the fallacies they use. Hellz, some of the models won’t return consistent results from subsequent runs on the same input data.

    If it makes you feel good to cling to the beliefs of the people that convinced you they were the smart ones, then we can give you a pat on the head and send you on your way.

  • Dano

    Much of their evidence has been shown to have been cherry picked, massaged, simply made up, in other words, corrupt

    You are describing the denialist’s strategies perfectly (and projecting, which is exactly what we expect).

    You are also describing this post perfectly: we see where one line was cherry-picked, and a (maybe gullible) disinformer uses that to dupe the willful rubes.

    Basic physics works on earth. Reality: don’t take it personally!

    Best,

    D

  • Mr Evilwrench

    No, I’m talking about the leaked raw data sets that had been fussed with in various ways, the reliance on such things as tree ring data that have been shown not to have been properly understood, etc. Projecting. I do not think that word means what you think it means. Or at least you’ve missed the irony that you were doing it yourself in the first place. But you’re on the side of the holy, so it’s ok.

    Nothing on the rest of it, eh? Anybody around here have a hockey stick? These dupes have gone from amusing to tiresome.

  • Ummah Gummah

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    WTF, never mind the current troll here right now.. there’s a much more dangerous troll who got elected ILLEGALLY for a third term as mayor of New York. He’s all over the media pushing for elimination of the Second Amendment.

    Since when are mayors in charge of national policy?

    This guy needs to check himself. Until the wonderboy makes him gun-grabbing Czar or something.

    Hey BloomBORG: TAKE A LONG HIKE OFF A SHORT PIER!

    .

  • Dano

    No, I’m talking about the leaked raw data sets that had been fussed with in various ways, the reliance on such things as tree ring data that have been shown not to have been properly understood,

    I know!!

    After the fake scandal, the glaciers advanced, sea level rise fell, temps cooled, precipitation returned to old patterns, birds nested farther south, butterflies were in synch with plants, plants moved south, animals moved south and downhill…

    snork

    Denialists have nothing but made up stuff. Denialists have no testable hypotheses, no body of evidence, no library of empirical papers, no equations, no data, no methods, no scribbles on a napkin to explain why basic physics works in every square centimeter of the universe except for here on good ol’ planet earth, so I have no idea what you’d be discussing.

    Best,

    D

  • Ummah Gummah

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    After the fake warmology data was debunked, the glaciers advanced, sea level rise fell, temps cooled, precipitation returned to old patterns, birds nested farther south, butterflies were in synch with plants, plants moved south, animals moved south and downhill… liberals and moslems crawled back in their caves.. and people all over the world began to see that Obama is a mere mortal who is full of manure.

    And algore went bankrupt and was forced to sell the house he had recently bought right on the beach in Santa Barbara.

    :-)

    .

  • Ummah Gummah

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    Warmologists have nothing but made up stuff. Warmologists have nothing but disproven hypotheses, a mounting body of phony evidence, a library of conspiratorial papers, no working equations, no valid data, no methods, nothing but drunken scribbles on a napkin purporting to explain why basic physics works in every square centimeter of the universe except for here on good ol’ planet earth, so I have no idea what you’d be discussing.

    Hmmm.. sounds like someone’s been hitting the ol’ bottle again..

    .

  • Aussie_john

    The globull warming alarmists don’t seem to think that we humans are a natural part of the ‘ecosystem’. God made this planet and put mankind on it to use it. He also says something about the seasons…

    Genesis 8:22 “While the earth remains,
    Seedtime and harvest,
    Cold and heat,
    Winter and summer,
    And day and night
    Shall not cease.”

    And just before that: ‘…Then the Lord said in His heart, “I will never again curse the ground for man’s sake, although the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; nor will I again destroy every living thing as I have done.’

    I take my information from God the Creator.

  • Dano

    The globull warming alarmists don’t seem to think that we humans are a natural part of the ‘ecosystem’.

    Mischaracterizations aside, this is, of course, incorrect.

    Nevertheless, John, you raise a good point about “information” (along with cherry-picking mentioned above), and hopefully you’ll give both barrels to those who deny reality and continue their ways:

    “We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.” (Romans 8:22)

    “How long will the land lie parched and the grass in every field be withered? Because those who live in it are wicked, the animals and birds have perished.” (Jeremiah 12:4)

    “The earth dries up and withers, the world languishes and withers, the heavens languish together with the earth. The earth lies polluted under its inhabitants; for they have transgressed laws, violated the statutes, broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore a curse devours the earth; its inhabitants suffer for their guilt.” (Isaiah 24:4-6)

    Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads. (Rev. 7:3)

    Best,

    D

  • M.Wilson

    First of all, I laugh at your assumption that the Doomsday du jour should be taken as the null hypothesis and that the people who believe that the current data is normal and nothing to be worried about have something to prove.

    If I told you that radio waves were destabilizing the sun and would cause it to go supernova within the next century, which of us would have to carry the burden of proof?

    The fact of the matter is that Humanity’s impact on global climate is negligible. If solar activity drops and other factors come together to set the stage for an ice age, it will happen whether we do things that supposedly promote warming or cooling. If solar activity rises and natural forces on Earth set the stage for a second Medieval Warm Period, it will happen no matter how hard we try to “stop global warming”.

    So instead of advocating the complete destruction of all industrial economies under the delusion that you are saving the planet, it would be better to use the data to determine whether we should invest in better heating or air conditioning to deal with whatever the planet throws at us. There is no reason to halt the advance of Mankind for some silly notion that we are somehow “destroying” the planet.

  • Dano

    The fact of the matter is that Humanity’s impact on global climate is negligible.

    Bravo, sir. With your unsupported, offhand comment on an obscure blog, you have – single-handedly – brought down about 13 scientific disciplines, with their evidence and hypotheses and and and physics and all that thinkin’-y stuff!

    Well done, sir. Weeeeellllll done!

  • Winston Smith

    Dano, you are the denialist. You and the ilk that call themselves scientists have one goal – obtain more government grant money to “study” the “problem”. It was warmer 1000 years ago than today when the Vikings thrived in areas now too cold to support ranching. The Viking culture floundered once the solar output changed the northern areas became too bitterly cold to support colonies in Greenland and they were abandoned.

    Quoting scripture just shows how ignorant you really are.

  • Winston Smith

    BTW, increasing numbers of scientists are admitting scoalled cherry picked studies by climate change alarmists have been tweaked to the point of absudity.

    The most laughable part was a few years ago during the solar minimum when we spent a few winters digging out from several feet of snow in sub zero temps, it too was blamed on Climate Change.

    Update to moronic, Weather is NOT Climate. Climate change would be if the Dust Bowl of the 1930s had stayed that way for the next 80 years and the plains were now a desert.

  • Dano

    They always dutifully parrot the same old, tired talking points don’t they – never, ever is there anything new. I already pointed this out upthread:

    You and the ilk that call themselves scientists have one goal – obtain more government grant money to “study” the “problem”

    43) 35 points– For suggesting that scientists are all involved in a conspiracy, or that AGW is being pushed for extra funding, and the like

    . It was warmer 1000 years ago than today when the Vikings thrived in areas now too cold to support ranching.

    24) 20 points– For proclaiming that Greenland got its name because it was “Green” and life flourished in Medieval times

    increasing numbers of scientists are admitting scoalled cherry picked studies by climate change alarmists have been tweaked to the point of absudity.

    I DO love the harrumphing about cherry-picking in a post that completely based on a cherry pick!!! *heart*!!

    31) 25 points– For every mail-in petition or other “list of names” showing AGW is wrong

    The most laughable part was a few years ago during the solar minimum when we spent a few winters digging out from several feet of snow

    17) 10 points– For pointing out that your city actually got snow, or that some glacier is growing somewhere

    http://chriscolose.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/quantifying-skeptical-arguments/#more-293

    Quoting scripture just shows how ignorant you really are.

    Replying in kind is ignorant ever’buddehhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1one!1 Hooooot! Thanks fer the authoritatively-toned LOLz!

    Denialists have nothing but made up stuff. Denialists have no testable hypotheses, no body of evidence, no library of empirical papers, no equations, no data, no methods, no scribbles on a napkin to explain why basic physics works in every square centimeter of the universe except for here on good ol’ planet earth. Nada. Nichts. Zip. Zilch.

    Best,

    D

  • M.Wilson

    And yet you offer up not a shred of data yourself. Again, what have we got to prove? You’re the one trying to convince us that the past century of climate science should be turned on its head for your new pet Global Warming theory.

    In the mean time, thousands of scientists have asserted that humanity’s impact on the climate is negligible. 17,000 and counting have put their signatures to a petition from the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine stating such. Where’s your consensus now?

    But of course consensus is meaningless in science, regardless of what the Church of AGW would like us to believe. On the data front, satellite data has shown no statistically significant warming for the past 23 years. Large swaths of climate alarmist data have been repeatedly proven to be contaminated, erroneous, or outright falsified. Remember Climategate?

    Now, given that climate is cyclical, there will be naturally occurring warming eventually as well as naturally occurring cooling (not at the same time, of course). Should we be concerned about either? In the long run, absolutely not. After all, both are temporary and each gives way to the other sooner or later. In the short run, studies have shown that a warmer climate would largely be beneficial, encouraging plant growth and improving crop yields, especially in higher latitudes.

    Finally, the proposals made by climate alarmists to stop their boogeyman would be economically catastrophic. They are astronomically expensive, grossly inefficient, and entirely inappropriate for the nature of the challenge.

    Rather than trying to terraform the planet into having lower temperatures, it makes better sense to just improve our economies so that more people can afford heating and air conditioning. This is the silliest thing about climate alarmism, simply ignoring the climate and developing our economy would make us more prepared for all scenarios, including their own worst case, than any “solution” they have proposed.

    So tell me, if I were a hypothetical world leader, why should I destroy my economy in the name of Climate?

  • Dano

    You’re the one trying to convince us that the past century of climate science should be turned on its head for your new pet Global Warming theory.

    AFAICT, denialists cannot be convinced, therefore I’m not wasting my time. I’m merely pointing out the basic fact that denialists have exactly nothing more than the same old, tired, refuted talking points that they parrot, whack-a-mole-like, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and vover and over and vover and over and over and over and over and over and vvover and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

    And over.

    HTH.

    Best,

    D

  • M.Wilson

    So basically, you’re accusing us of being what you are. After all, you don’t seem to care that we have presented facts, that we are backed by a large portion of the scientific community, or that our proposed plan of action is more logical for all possible scenarios.

    You are simply a bitter, angry person, clinging to government, identity politics, or antipathy for other people in a desperate attempt to avoid realizing just how wrong you are.

    Climate is driven by natural forces, and rising productivity will not destroy the world. In other news, Elvis is dead, aliens have never contacted Earth, Bigfoot doesn’t exist, the world will not end on 21/12/2012, the Large Hadron Collider will not create a black hole, Y2K is not a problem, and anybody who claims to know the date of the Rapture is wrong.

  • Dano

    we have presented facts, that we are backed by a large portion of the scientific community

    No. You have not. They are empty talking points, the repetition of which has become a joke. And we’ve numbered the empty talking points for our easy reference.

    You are simply a [yada, etc.] just how wrong you are.

    Speaking of numbering for easy reference, this is Standard Denialist Rhetorical Tactic B: “Make a false statement. …link to a disinformation site that peddles the talking points scored elsewhere on this page. When told this was refuted so long ago and so many times that we score it now, call the questioner names. ”

    That is: denialists have nothing new and denialists have exactly nothing more than the same old, tired, refuted talking points that they parrot, whack-a-mole-like, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and vover and over and vover and over and over and over and over and over and vvover and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

    And over.

    HTH.

    Best,

    D

  • Dano

    thousands of scientists have asserted that humanity’s impact on the climate is negligible. 17,000 and counting have put their signatures to a petition from the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine stating such.

    You know when they trot out OISM they are hopelessly lost.

    There is no better indicator of a fool and nincompoopery available than that. Hopeless. No convincing that.

    Best,

    D

  • Aussie_john

    D,

    Why don’t you check the Piri Reis map, that shows an uncovered Antarctic hundreds of years ago…

    Quote…”The most puzzling however is not so much how Piri Reis managed to draw such an accurate map of the Antarctic region 300 years before it was discovered, but that the map shows the coastline under the ice.”

    http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm

    Worst,

    J

  • Dano

    This here dadgum website is a-may-zing!

    A map (clearly drawn by extraterrestrials) shows that all of th’ modern human sciency stuff is wrong about the age of ice on Antarctica! Who knew?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    I mean, like, wowie! We learn, like, um, evarrr sooooo much here in comments how empirical science and The Enlightenment is, like, bogus man! Maps drawn by Extraterrestrial Intelligent Beings Way More Smarter Than American Socialist Scientists, like, rrrrRRRRrock!

    ET map disproves Ay-gee-dubya! Wowie!

    Best,

    D

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