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Jan 18 2013

Doctors as Federal Agents

Among the more alarming of the 23 executive orders the Moonbat Messiah signed at the crest of his media’s Sandy Hook hype appears to repeal the lone positive aspect of ObamaCare:

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

Since we were not given a chance to discuss this while Democrats were unilaterally ramming ObamaCare down our throats, let’s give thought to it now: Do we really want doctors to be agents of the federal government? Aren’t you supposed to be able to trust your doctor?

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Graphic compliments of Joel C.

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  • whotothewhat

    DoKctor: ” Nice to see you made your required annual physical this year without us having to contact your Medical Adviser for non compliance. So how do you feel today”

    Me: “Great”

    DoKtor: Any health issues?”

    Me: “Nope”

    DoKtor: ” I see you have a child living in your home.”

    Me: “Yes my 10 year old son.”

    Doktor: ” OK I see, do you have any firearms in your home and if so are they secure?”

    Me: “NOPE, NADA, NOTHING. I do not believe in owning any guns.”

    So unless they hook me up to a lie detector or perform a Vulcan mind meld I think I can get away with lying.

  • MicahStone

    If the d-cRAT socialist extremists ever again gain control of the House, you can bet on legislation to make ALL doctors union-based employees of the federal government under the socialist one-payer system addition to the OBOZOCARE atrocity. Then American healthcare will be as dead as a fetus at Planned Parenthood.

  • bobdog

    Any conversation that I have with my doctor about firearms will be short and very blunt.

    As far as I’m concerned, Obama’s pronouncement on this subject is nothing more than a whim that I am at liberty to ignore. It does not supercede the provisions of Obamacare, and it certainly does not comport with the Second Amendment or the Constitution as a whole.

  • Clingtomyguns

    Sounds to me like a 1st Amendment lawsuit by doctors waiting to happen:

    If doctors don’t ask voluntarily, can the federal government force doctors to ask and report to Reich Minister Sebelius about how many guns their patients have?
    In U.S. v. United Foods, 533 U.S. 405, 121 S. Ct. 2334, 150L. Ed.2d 438 (2001), the Supreme Court barred a government-sponsored agricultural product board from assessing fees from producers to be used in product advertisement. It concluded that the First Amendment not only addresses the banning of speech; it also prevents the government from forcing persons to express views they not agree with: “First Amendment values are at serious risk if the government can compel a citizen or group of citizens to subsidize speech on the side that it favors.”

    Hope docs tell Obama to stick it where the sun don’t shine on this, or if any patients that are asked by nosey liberal doctors how many guns they have, fire that doctor, and then invite them to come over in the middle of the night and find out for themselves.

  • Bo-Jangles

    “16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes…”

    Nor does it authorize them to ask. Besides, most of them are so busy gutting Medicare and Medicaid that they couldn’t care less about your guns. Unless of course, that you are stupid enough to tell them.

  • Louise

    Doctors are no longer bound to confidentiality, meanwhile lawyers confidentiality agreement with their clients is sacred.
    Man can confess to his lawyer that he is the murderer while an innocent man is sitting in prison. Obama will always protect the lawyers.

  • Bob

    What guns?

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures…The number of cases in which an internal necessity exists for having recourse to such a law is in itself a limited one.”

    I also promise an end to unemployment and pledge to promote peace with France, Great Britain and the Soviet Union.
    But in order to do all this, I first needed the Enabling Act.
    http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/enabling.htm

  • Mr Evilwrench

    Firearms? What are these firearms of which you speak?

  • dapenguin

    the look in that kid’s eye says:

    tell him to kiss yo a$$ mommy

  • dapenguin

    no guns no clips

    now maybe rifles and magazines, but you didn’t ask me that…

  • http://www.henrypbabcock.com Henry

    My doctor already knows I own guns. There will be NO electronic record keeping in his office; as I said previously, he says he will retire if forced to comply with ObamaCare.

    “No matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period.”

  • asswipee

    hey bitches (and i mean that in a friendly way)…check out the Nazi T4 program….

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_T4

    understand that the Nazi’s didn’t know how to kill large numbers of people from the start. it took some work to figure this all out…this was the start

    but, germans are smart, they used the scientific method to learn (observation, hypothesis, testing, feedback, etc.)

    so, by all means, mr. obama, bring doctors in to this…

  • trailertrash

    While at my new Doctor the other day his nurse asked if I had any firearms in the house. Of course I said yes. Later she asked if I were ever depressed to which I answered only on the day after election day. She failed to see the humour in my answer.

  • oldguy

    Doctors have already murdered over 40 million babies, so why worry about this?

  • SNuss

    My doctor shoots skeet and trap, so I doubt that any gun questions will be an issue during my next physical

  • SNuss

    BTW, if they do ask, just tell them that you have a 155mm rifle, but it doesn’t have a pistol grip, a folding stock, or a high-capacity magazine, so it can’t be an assault weapon.

    http://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=4626 ;-)

  • Suprsvc

    The first time a doctor asks me about guns in my home, instead of an answer I’m going to ask him if he has ever been diagnosed with, or come into contact with, the aids virus. When he tells me that’s none of my business, I’ll just say then you have your answer.

  • Bob Roberts

    Except the Constitution trumps Executive Orders (which are not authorized by it) and the Constitution specifically reserves legislating powers to Congress so Obama’s “clarification” is meaningless and has no effect on the law as written.

  • Sam Adams

    Many younger doctors (and nurses) buy into the idea that firearms in the home are dangerous. I suspect that this question about firearms will pop up on the questionnaire that you fill out prior to seeing the doctor. Refusing to answer will be considered a “yes.”

    My response:
    “I don’t have any firearms since that horrible boating accident.”

  • Canis lupus

    The picture of the doctor is obviously fake. Only people of color and women can be doctors.

  • TonyD95B

    Doctors as Federal Agents?

    You mean like Gillian Anderson’s iconic Dana Scully character on the “X Files”?

    http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21100000/Dana-Scully-dana-scully-21111118-1024-768.png

    Sounds good to me!!!

    The only “aliens” around here didn’t arrive in a space ship – they drove up from Mexico in a stolen Ford van.

    As for “doctors as federal agents’, unfortunately they don’t look like Dana, either…..

  • facebkwallflower

    @Louis — Guess we just need to take our lawyer to our dr’s appointments, huh?

  • facebkwallflower

    Several years ago I was to have a d&c (a procedure specific to women for the uninformed) and during the pre-surgery procedures visit I was taken off guard by a very long questionnaire the doctor sat down and asked each question of me. At first the questions were medical related, then moved on to family history stuff which confused me because he already has a complete medical history on me. I found myself thinking things like, “What does an alcohol parent have to do with my uterus?” or “Any siblings ever suffer from low self-esteem or depression? Say what does that have to do with my uterus?” By the time the gun questions came I was actually sort of off balance and answered, “I don’t know.” The doc asked incredulously, “You don’t know if you have any guns in the house?” I said something like, “Well, my husband always kept the relics locked up and he mentioned awhile back he was selling them; don’t know if did; not on my radar”

    After I left the office it hit me how the whole thing caught me off guard and I have given quite a bit of time to thinking of how to answer these questions in the future. As mentioned above in this thread, to say ‘no answer’ gives assumption there are firearms in the home. Next time when the questions start I will state I will answer questions only specific to the purpose of the visit. All medical history has been gathered, reported, and documented so many times that nothing is pertinent except questions specific to impacting the reason for the visit. Go ahead, feel free to ask away as that is your job. And with each question I will say, “Not applicable to the (uterus, gall bladder, whatever). Next question, please.”

  • NMS

    The only times I will ever ask my patients about home firearms are when they are actively expressing homicidal/suicidal ideation or if they are a first time parent. There isn’t any other health related reason to inquire about firearms, regardless of what some half-witted bureaucrat says.

  • SNuss

    Describing Liberal bureaucrats as “half-witted” is giving them far too much credit, IMHO.

  • Comrade Kulak

    That is so cool that doctors are going to go to school for years just to end up as government employees. How noble of them to do that for the good of the collective!

  • Chaz Peeno

    Conspiracy theory alert!! The EO mentioned above is an add-on for Obamacare regarding patients undergoing mental treatment covered under the ACA. Your gynecologist or family MD isn’t going to ask and probably doesn’t care. Outside of the doctor/patient confidentiality thing, they have no reason to know, Unless of course, you have follow up with them for a self-inflicted gunshot wound. If you are seeing a shrink who prescribes you psychotropic drugs AND own guns… please do us all a favor and just tell them.

  • http://moonbattery czuch

    Hate to be paranoid here but it keeps coming up for me.
    I wonder if there is a “special prescription” they will authorize after a period of time for the yes answerers.
    We had a gun buy back day in Tucson and thats where all mine went. $50.00 at Safeway.
    /2013,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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