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Jan 23 2013

BBC Nature Host Calls Human Race a Plague

A true moonbat will always turn against his own kind. No one is more racist against whites than a white liberal; no one favors militant feminism more than an effete liberal “male”; no one hates America more than a liberal citizen of the USA. Inevitably, progressive thought has led to hostility against the entire human race. This is where liberalism crossed the line from sick to satanic, giving birth to the modern environmental movement.

Don’t take my word for. Sir David Attenborough has been hosting nature series for the British government’s BBC for decades. Let him explain:

Sir David, who is a patron of the Population Matters organisation which calls for smaller family sizes, made his comments while speaking to the Radio Times about his latest series for the Eden channel.

He said: ‘We are a plague on the Earth, it’s coming home to roost over the next 50 years or so.

‘It’s not just climate change; it’s sheer space, places to grow food for this enormous horde.’

The liberal intelligentsia’s contempt drips down upon everyone, not just conservatives.

Proving antihuman ideologues like Thomas Malthus and Al Gore wrong generation after generation won’t do any good where there is a will to believe.

Evil ideologies produce like results. If history is any indication, environmentalism will end with the equivalent of bulldozers pushing piles of corpses into mass graves.

David-Attenborough
Attenborough regards humans as a disease.

On a tip from Bob Roberts.

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  • Gunny G

    He should kill himself and set the example.

  • Dave

    I reluctantly have to disagree with the gracious host on this one.

    Over population is a HUGE problem and getting exponentially worse.

    See here:

    [Channel 4 News] Population explosion causes poverty crisis

    If life imataes art, then Lagos, Nigeria was inspired by Hieronymus Bosch’s paintings of Hell.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFgb1BdPBZo

  • Doug

    Hey retard, SOCIALISM causes poverty, if you haven’t heard.

    But then, you get your news from socialist retards.

  • Eleanor in Hell

    I thought he was pretty good in JURASSIC PARK. :-)

  • Ummah Gummah

    .

    He should advocate getting rid of all moslems. That would create a lot of open space and, most of all, peace for a while.

    Not to mention the clean air.. aaaaaahhhhhhh….!!!!!!!!

    .

  • Doug

    Why believe anything this nearly extinct dinosaur says anyway?

    He’s got crabs!

  • F.D.R. in Hell

    I agree, Eleanor. And he played a pretty convincing Santa in the re-make of MIRACLE ON 34th STREET. ;-)

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=7305&news_iv_ctrl=1021
    Creative minds–from Thomas Edison to Steve Jobs–flourish only under freedom. The result is new products, new jobs, new wealth, in short: the furtherance of life on earth, in length, quantity and quality. Under the kings, theocracies, military dictatorships and socialist regimes that dominate Africa, such minds are stifled. The result is stagnation, poverty and death.

    Africa has the identical natural resource fundamentally responsible for the West’s rise: the human mind. But it has neither the freedom nor the Enlightenment philosophy of reason, individualism and political liberty necessary for creating wealth and health. Africa is mired in tribal cultures that stress subordination to the group rather than personal independence and achievement. All over the continent brutal dictators murder and rob innocent citizens in order to aggrandize themselves and members of their tribes.

    What Africa desperately needs is to remove the political and economic shackles and replace them with political and economic freedom. It needs to depose the military dictators and socialist regimes and establish capitalism, with its political/economic freedom, its rule of law and respect for individual rights. And to accomplish that, it first needs to remove the philosophic shackles and replace tribal collectivism with a philosophy of reason and freedom. The truly humanitarian system is not the Marxism espoused by Western intellectuals but the only system that can establish, as it historically has, the furtherance of life on earth: capitalism.

  • Dave

    Sweden is a socialist country and poverty was non-existent there. Alas, things are changing due to the Swedish elites allowing massive immigration from the third world.

    Moreover, for a capitalist society to succeed, it is required to have a population smart and inovative enough to compete in the free and open marketplace. Alas the dumbing down of America has been the trend since the liberal takeover in the 1960s.

    Here tard, educate yourself:

    http://eugenics.net/papers/Itzkoff.html

  • Doug

    You click first, retard.

  • Dave

    BTW, my comment @

    January 23, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    was meant for Doug

  • StanInTexas

    Sir David Attenborough is married and has two children. Interesting how he does not practice what he preaches.

  • Dave

    Doug says:

    January 23, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    You click first, retard.

    You’re very photogenic, Doug.

  • Doug

    And mine was meant for you, as much as you find it so difficult to comprehend.

  • facebkwallflower

    What a bumper sticker: I AM the Plague

  • Louisiana Steve

    Libs paving the way for mass executions.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    I do hope no one is arguing Socialism in Sweden was sustainable
    http://www.iie.com/publications/papers/transcript-20120423.pdf

  • Dave

    Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    January 23, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    I do hope no one is arguing Socialism in Sweden was sustainable
    ===============================

    More to the point, I was talking about Sweden’s welfare-state. There immigration policy changed all that. Third world immigration certainly has made their generous welfare-state unsustainable. Ditto for the good ol’ U.S.or A. … which, of course, is no more capitalist than Sweden or Canada. All have mixed economies. Except as you already know –judging by your handle that is — the USA monetary and fiscal policies are Keynesianism gone out of control. I beleive Keynesian economics CAN work if it’s practiced by responsable adults…but none of those can be found in D.C.

    BTW,FWIW, I’m of the Austrian School too…and a fan of Ayn Rand.

    Mises.org is on my list of fave websites.

    http://mises.org/

  • Mr Evilwrench

    Socialism could work in Sweden for a rather long time when there was a very homogeneous population dedicated to a common cultural purpose, oh, and someone else defending them from Soviet takeover. Who was that again? Perhaps some successful capitalist beneficiary?

    Africa’s only real resources are buried in the ground. The various organisms crawling on its surface are constitutionally incapable of exploiting those resources themselves. What has been invented in africa? What cities have they built on their own initiative? What culture have they created that has contributed to the world? How can an entire continent of feckless rubes be expected to solve any problems? And yes, we make it worse by emptying dumptrucks full of cash into that hole.

    And we’ve been dumbed down in America? Yes we have. Who has been responsible for that? News, entertainment, education, perhaps? These are all in the hands of whom again?

  • Dave

    Well, it sure looks like Mr. Evilwrench has all the basics down pat.

  • Bee

    You first, Attenborough

  • Alphamail

    facebkwllflower wins the caption contest

  • dapenguin

    Yes, I agree, he is a plague on society

  • MAKAYA

    Hi all:
    I don’t know about Miracle on 34th Street, but wasn’t it RICHARD Attenborough in Jurassic Park?

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    Socialism could work in Sweden for a rather long time when there was a very homogeneous population dedicated to a common cultural purpose, oh, and someone else defending them from Soviet takeover.
    Mr Evilwrench
    You know, the left constantly holds Sweden up as a model of Socialism’s success
    http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2013/01/normal-0-false-false-false-en-us-x-none.html
    The social democrats have not only joined the free market consensus, but seem to attack the current government from the right, demanding a better business environment. Gone are demands for the restoration of social benefits.

    Opinion polls have rewarded the social democrats for their right turn with sharply improved ratings. The left-wing intellectuals are also gone. The old socialist think tanks have closed down. The Centre for Labour Market Studies was a state institution, and the non-socialist government closed it, since it did not generate research but left-wing propaganda. The Trade Union Organisation had a sophisticated research institute, which it eliminated for not being sufficiently political. The trade union economists, who dominated the Swedish economic debate in the 1970s and 1980s, have been replaced by bank economists. The free-market right has won the debate and maintains substantial think tanks in Stockholm. Their main problem is a lack of resistance.

    I believe we could use some of Sweden’s “Socialism” about now
    ________
    There immigration policy changed all that. Third world immigration certainly has made their generous welfare-state unsustainable. Ditto for the good ol’ U.S.or A.
    Dave

    I believe you are confusing cause and effect.
    The “generous welfare state” has always been unsustainable
    It attracts the natives to it like moths to the bug zapper, creating demand for low skill labor.
    Immigration is merely a symptom of this welfare state.

  • Alan

    Here’s part of the problem. Have at it, Sir Attenborough:

    “the Muslim birth rate in Europe is three times higher than the non-Muslim one. If current trends continue, the Muslim population of Europe will nearly double by 2015, while the non-Muslim population will shrink by 3.5 percent.”

    http://www.brookings.edu/research/opinions/2003/03/middleeast-taspinar

    “Only 3.2 per cent of Spain’s population was foreign-born in 1998. In 2007 it was 13.4 per cent. Europe’s Muslim population has more than doubled in the past 30 years and will have doubled again by 2015. In Brussels, the top seven baby boys’ names recently were Mohamed, Adam, Rayan, Ayoub, Mehdi, Amine and Hamza.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/5994047/Muslim-Europe-the-demographic-time-bomb-transforming-our-continent.html

  • Dave

    Ghost of FA Hayek

    Just as I’ve suspected. You are JUST as naive as Alphamail. The fact is immigration from the Third World into Sweden is what’s destroying the social order of what Sweden WAS.

    I emphasise WAS because Sweden could and would continue its welfare-state socialism sans the importation of muds. With the importation of muds, Sweden is going the route of Britain.

  • Dave

    Many anti-Semites will blame Jews for what’s happening in Sweden, but I blame the Swedish elites. Afterall, they are the ones that hired Barbara Spectre for the purpose of making the process of the genocide of Swedes as painless as possible.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Vq_e2Z1ug

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    Many anti-Semites will blame Jews for what’s happening in Sweden, but I blame the Swedish elites.
    Dave
    Those elites are leftists with friends in low places
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jg-Es2PNUg
    But don’t think Sweden does not notice the damage being done
    http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/immigration-rights.k9h/
    Key EU states led by Germany and Sweden pressed Thursday for the reintroduction of visas for people coming from Balkan EU candidate states so as to curb soaring unfounded asylum requests.
    Their main trouble now is the “generosity” of unelected leftist EU bureaucrats

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    Oh, and Dave, you will never get anywhere with me by suggesting Socialism implemented anywhere is not destined for utter failure

  • Rich

    Lead by example asshat. You first. I obama promise I’ll follow.

  • Mike T

    Well then Sir David, why don’t you expedite your expiration and thus decrease the surface population? Stupid Englishter.

  • Dave

    Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    January 23, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    Oh, and Dave, you will never get anywhere with me by suggesting Socialism implemented anywhere is not destined for utter failure

    ———

    I agree, socialism, in the true sence of the word, such as it was implemented in the Soviet Union IE Communism could never work in the long term; however, “socialism” as it was practiced in Sweden (given the homogeneous/cultural cohesive population [that is until the multicult poisoned it]) was practicable. You know it. I know it.

  • JNN

    To all population control freaks—You first!!

  • Sam Adams

    Dave says:
    January 23, 2013 at 1:18 pm

    I reluctantly have to disagree with the gracious host on this one.

    Over population is a HUGE problem and getting exponentially worse.
    ______________

    Remember all the hype about the “population bomb” in the 1970’s? (Maybe you don’t). As people become more prosperous, their family size decreases. They don’t need all the kids to make the family viable.

    You should read up on the man who diffused the population bomb.

  • Sam Adams

    Dave says:
    January 23, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    I beleive Keynesian economics CAN work if it’s practiced by responsable adults…but none of those can be found in D.C.

    BTW,FWIW, I’m of the Austrian School too…and a fan of Ayn Rand.
    __________

    Sorry; Keynesian economics are basically the opposite of the Austrian School. You can’t believe in both. One “can’t work sometimes.”

    An economic theory, like any other theory, is only of value if it correctly predicts behavior at all times. Keynesian economics has been demonstrated time and again to not work. You note how the “Stimulus Bill” was promised to stimulate the economy and create jobs? Well…..it didn’t.

    According to Keynesian economics, it makes no difference if government funding is used to promote scientific advancement or form a bucket brigade to move water from the Atlantic to the Pacific.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    however, “socialism” as it was practiced in Sweden (given the homogeneous/cultural cohesive population [that is until the multicult poisoned it]) was practicable. You know it. I know it.
    Dave
    I have no doubt Swedes tell themselves they are all Socialists. After all, the word Capitalism denotes greed.
    But if you were to read my link, you may have noted that top tax rates have dropped from 90 to around 50 percent, and burdensome regulations lifted.
    And Sweden started to work again.
    Now, if Socialist theory were correct the Swedes shouldn’t have needed regulation, and in fact would have been perfectly happy at the old 90 percent rate.

    My local church welcomed a contingent from Kenya consisting of a couple of priests, some church leaders, and a Socialist educated scholar from the university in Nairobi studying food distribution
    One of the stops on their tour included a local potato warehouse.
    The Socialist commented that the moral thing to do would have been to distribute those spuds immediately after harvest, and that hoarding them in a pile that size represents the “greed of Capitalism”
    This mindset is exactly why Africa is so screwed.
    This “greed” is in fact the farmer utilizing his superior skills in potato storage, ensuring the consumer a quality supply, so he in turn can focus his time and talent on what he excels at.
    I also knew a young man from Norway who’s goal was to become a dairy farmer.
    But the door for him was effectively slammed shut thanks to their collective system of quotas.
    http://www.emeraldinsight.com/books.htm?chapterid=17020955
    These wealthy farmer kulaks now live in town feasting on all the government cheese (subsidy)

    Socialists today either refuse to acknowledge self interest as an element of human nature, dismiss it as greed, or insist that in time, they can weed it out.
    This process of weeding is what we now refer to as Communism. (Socialism at the point of a gun)
    You suggest that Swedes would be more willing to toil for the good of the collective (as long as this collective includes only other blond hair blue eyed Swedes) and this may be to an extent true. It certainly is for the family unit.
    However, with the former 90 percent tax rates, both the capital and incentive to invest evaporated, leaving the collective (government) to pick winners and losers, while formerly working Swedes found the generous welfare system more and more attractive.
    Note how race relations deteriorate here in the US as the Democrapts push us further into the hellhole of Socialism.
    When government hands out free lunches, it becomes dog-eat-dog for the biggest slice of pie.
    This is where Socialism truly fosters greed, envy, racism and all forms of general ugliness.
    But the fix is not to recreate the sort of homogeneous society Hitler had in mind, but rather to sweep Socialism into the dustbin of history and apply the lost principles of Capitalism where people are bonded by a mutual self interest.

  • epb

    Put your money where your mouth is!
    Next time you get sick, need an operation refuse the pills and medical treatments as these things come from Big Pharma and greedy corporations that cause the human “virus” to reek havoc upon nature.

    See Matrix I Listen to Agent Smith diatribe on humans as viruses.

  • Dave

    Ghost,

    First off, I spoke of Sweden’s relatively benign form of socialism in the past tense. Moreover Sweden was always a mixed economy with capitalism driving the means of production whilst having a socialist element which provided for the many social benifits and the welfare-state. Sweden’s welfare-state has been undermined due to the elites forcibly imposing massive third world immigration their own people. That’s what F’ed up Sweden’s once successful welfare-state. Some call it treason … and rightfully so.

    Secondly, unfortunately President Obama shares that same skewed worldview as your guest from Kenya. In the case of your guest; he’s just ignorant of the driving forces behind capitalism (ignorance can be cured with education). Obama OTOH is well aware of how capitalism works. His problem with capitalism is he sees it as inherently racist. He knows blacks and other non-white minorities cannot compete and win on a level playing field, so he and his ilk seek to replace capitalism with a new more virulent form of socialism. Racial Socialism now plays big in AmeriKa.

    And who can forget anti-capitalists like Je$$e Jackson — with naive white college kids surrounding him — chanting: HEY HEY HO HO WESTERN CIV HAS GOT TO GO!

    In reality capitalism is the antithesis of a racist system. Market forces drive capitalism, not racial preferences. The idiom: “If you can build a better mousetrap they will beat a path to your door” is absolutly true.

    is absolutely true. But again, blacks as a group can’t compete on a level playing field; thus they depend on a powerful government to provide and care for them. That’s the reason why the Left freaks out when the TEA Party calls for a smaller government and a balanced budget. They see that as a threat to their very existence. That’s why they invariably play the race card whenever there is serious talk of reducing the size and scope of the Federal Government.

  • Dave

    Sam Adams says: Sorry; Keynesian economics are basically the opposite of the Austrian School. You can’t believe in both. One “can’t work sometimes.”

    ———

    I thought I made it clear Kenynesian economics is NOT working and explained why.

    Theoretically, Keynesian economics is the optimal system. But when put in practice the dark side of human nature kicks in and we get what we have: 16.5 trillion in debt plus 122 trillion in unfunded mandates. IOWs, WE”RE SCREWED! America as we once knew it is OVAH!

    “In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.” — Yogi Berra

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    BTW
    Kenya also has a Monsanto research station dedicated to producing crops better suited to tolerate Kenya’s climate.
    This Socialist zombie, even with his education was unable to understand that the crops Monsanto grew there were not to compete with local farmers. That they were there to IMPROVE their crops.
    But alas,the Socialists of Kenya will preside over more starvation, as having succeeded in pushing the peasants back into their mud huts
    http://www.gopetition.com/petition/42132.html

  • Dave

    Sam Adams says:

    Remember all the hype about the “population bomb” in the 1970′s? (Maybe you don’t). As people become more prosperous, their family size decreases. They don’t need all the kids to make the family viable.

    You should read up on the man who diffused the population bomb.

    ——–

    Like I said:

    If life imataes art, then Lagos, Nigeria was inspired by Hieronymus Bosch’s paintings of Hell.

    please watch:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFgb1BdPBZo

    That is the product of liberl do-gooders. Western countries provide food, medicine and technology to the SSA counties out of their feeeeeeeeel good altruistic motivations but never considered the unintended consequences. Their good intentions paved the road to hell…literally.

  • Dave
  • Dave

    Zimbabwe was a net food exporter before Mugabe took over and advanced a policy to ethnically cleanse the white farmers out of existence. Now a large segment of the population is starving. Like I said earlier: ignorance can be cured with education. Stupidity is incurable.

  • Dave

    In case anyone missed this (it really does a good job of illustrating the dire problem we face):

    Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs – Updated 2010

    https://www.numbersusa.com/content/resources/video/educational/immigration-world-poverty-and-gumballs-updated-2010.html

  • whotothewhat

    Hey David you first.

  • Garpin

    This reminds me of the hoopla a few years back about landfills and how they were going to poison the earth and quite literally take over living space.

    Sir David is a buffoon and while he is an excellent narrator, his knowledge of so many things that simply are not so, is astounding.

    IF we are a plague – where does evolution fit in?

  • M.Wilson

    Any theory regarding human behavior (which is 100% of what economics is) that fails to account for human nature cannot even be said to work in theory.

    To say “My economic model would work in theory, but doesn’t account for human nature” is ignorant at best and an outright lie at worst. The same goes for anyone who says “Communism would work in theory, if it wasn’t for how people behave.”

    That’s the same as saying “My model of physics would work in theory, if it wasn’t for gravity.” Or “My mathematical system would work in theory, if we ignored even numbers.” Don’t kid yourself.

  • Dave

    “To say “My economic model would work in theory, but doesn’t account for human nature” is ignorant at best and an outright lie at worst. The same goes for anyone who says “Communism would work in theory, if it wasn’t for how people behave.”

    ———

    Every new innovation — be it material or abstract — starts out as an idea/concept then evolves onto a theory. If one follows Mr.Wilson’s logic, then notheing should ever be tried (or put into practice) because the human nature variable might cause it to fail.

    We didn’t know communism would fail unless it was tried. We now know better.

  • M.Wilson

    When your theory is entirely about human behavior, then known human behavior should be a factor, no?

    Economics is, in essence, the study of how humans interact with each other through transactions. Any economic theory that fails to account for known human behavior is therefore fundamentally flawed. Substitute “Model for human behavior” for economic theory, and “human behavior” for human nature.

    “My model for human behavior would work in theory, but it doesn’t account for human behavior.” How can you not account for the very thing you are supposedly modeling?

    Say for example I theorized that it would be possible to build a cannon sufficiently large to launch astronauts into orbit at a fraction of the cost of conventional rockets. It would work in theory, if we ignore the passenger’s acceleration tolerance. Would you like to be the test subject?

    When crafting a good theory, you can’t just ignore known facts (such as the fact that firing you out of a space cannon would turn you into thick red paste) and go making stuff up out of thin air like you’re writing science fiction or something.

    Now, if these things are only found out after the fact then it’s a case of hindsight is 20/20. But that doesn’t mean the theory is any less wrong. In any case where theory conflicts with reality, reality must prevail and the theory must be abandoned or rewritten.

  • Dave

    Did you know Hitler was said to have been a proto-Keynesian? Hitler and the Nazis were actually practising what later would be known as Keynesian economics. In fact Keynes was very impressed and influenced by how the Nazis rose to such an industrial and military power in the decade leading up to WWII. Yes, the Nazis were for all practical purposes Keynesians before the ink was dry on Keynes work.

    Secondly human nature is not subject to reductionism. Reductionism does not work on nonlinear systems such as human nature or living organisms or economics. OTOH, if you wish to build a cannon, then, yes, Newtonian physics/reductionism works just fine.

  • M.Wilson

    I think that might be the first time I’ve seen someone besides a Muslim hold up Hitler as a positive role model. That said, Hitler’s practice of Keynsian economics does nothing to lend credibility to the theory. Especially considering that Nazi Germany’s economic model was completely unsustainable in the long run. Like the Soviet Union, it was crippled by excessive, suffocating top-down government micromanagement. Unlike the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany was not receiving massive Marshal Plan and Lend-Lease assistance from the United States.

    While Germany created the facade of an industrial and military powerhouse early in the war, its industrial base was as hollow and as invalid as their eugenics. Their defeat, in the long run, was inevitable. The United State’s entry into the war only brought about its end more swiftly, reducing the death and devastation a self-destructing Nazi Germany would have otherwise left in its wake.

    As to your claim that basic principles of logic and science don’t apply to the study of humanity, I categorically disagree. Much like subatomic particles, while humans may be wildly unpredictable and frustratingly inscrutable as individuals, in large groups they are profoundly predictable in their behavior. So predictable in fact, that all the political problems we are facing today were predicted 200 years ago with little more than a basic understanding of human nature.

    “Democracy can only last until people realize that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.”

    The solution, of course, is to establish a Republic in such a way that certain issues, such as the infringement of certain rights or the government’s ability to hand out money and favors, are strictly forbidden. Our founders attempted this. Unfortunately, our politicians have found ways around their intentions in order to allow themselves to buy votes.

  • Dave

    M.Wilson,

    I wasn’t holding the Hitler up as a role model; I’m just stating the facts my friend. In fact I think Hitler and the Nazis were the worst thing to happen to the White race. Communism is a close second … or maybe they’re in close compitition for first place given all the tens of millions of innocents murdered by the Nazis and Communists. 55 million Europeans died in WWII alone if I recall correctly. Not to mention post WWII all those that died in the Archipelago of work camps in the USSR and the 60 million that died as a result of the Cultural Revolution in China. Will the U.S.A. go down that road? I don’t know but things are looking pretty ominous, no?

    Other than that I have nothing to disagree with in what you’re saying.

    Good day, Sir.

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