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Aug 30 2014

Common Core Math

From a 2nd grade homework assignment in the Phoenix suburb Anthem:


Say what?

By the time liberals are through with this country, Americans will not even be able to do simple math.

Compliments of Muddypaw.

  • Leonard Jones

    You can’t make this shit up! I am 58 years old. In the 3rd grade, we
    were doing the three branches of government, how a bill becomes
    law, long division and a whole lot more.

    There was not a kid in that class who could not answer that question
    before the teacher finished writing it on the blackboard.

  • George Lortz

    Y’all been shopping lately? They can’t add and subtract NOW !

  • JeffersonSpinninginGrave

    I truly do not understand what this is supposed to solve. Is it some trick to help people with borderline mental retardation IQs learn to do simple math? Some kind of reduction to the absolute lowest common denominator, even if it means that kids with normal IQs take much longer to do math and get less done?

  • Spartan24708

    My first grader asked me “is that for real?” When I read the question. She also told me that 7+6 is 13- I don’t see where 10 would come in unless they are teaching kids to estimate to the nearest ten. Even people with developmental delays who could be taught math would understand that 7+6 is 13.

  • Title of Liberty

    Besides the incredibly ridiculous nature of this question only someone on crack would understand, even the copyright at the bottom of the page is substandard. “*Some* rights reserved” as opposed to “all rights reserved” as is customary. Hm. “Rights”. Do you suppose that has something to do with OUR RIGHT to NORMAL math?

  • MicahStone

    The GOOD NEWS for Arizona: Repub voters THREW OUT CommieCore supporting weasel Superintendent of Public Instruction John Huppenthal and nominated CommieCore opponent Diane Douglas (who was backed by Michelle Malkin , among many other conservatives.) With RINO gov/moron Brewer also out in January, the state will now be able to flush CommieCore 100%..

  • Son of the Rabbit People

    It doesn’t matter what things add up to when someone else is always paying your tab.

  • TomasDumas

    Halve the six. (7, 3, 3)
    Add three to the seven to get 10. (10, 3)
    Then add the remaining three. (13)

  • Jester

    Easy: If Michelle Obama goes on a vacation for the first time costing $70,000 taxpayer dollars and the media couldn’t care less, then she can effortlessly go on another one for $60,000, and yet a third for $100,000.

  • Yeah…that’s so much easier than “Seven plus six equals thirteen”. And to think I’ve been doing it wrong for decades.

  • The real problem with Common Core is that now parents will be unable to help their children with homework.

  • Jodie

    Thank you!

  • Jodie

    Seven plus six equals ten if Obama wants it to.

  • Veritas

    DC math.

  • MannieP

    That is intentional. Freeze them out of the loop.

  • octa bright

    Actually, I would GUESS that the purpose is to eliminate rote memorization and replace it with an understanding of the interaction of the numerical values. While this might be marginally useful in teaching the higher forms of math, for the overwhelming number of students who will rarely if ever use anything more advanced than algebra it just complicates matters.
    A better solution might be to try the system out in a few schools and see if it is useful rather than trying it nationally.

  • Mr. Mentalo

    Big brother is watching…

  • Nobama

    Communist Core

  • Bruce Price

    Well put! It already is and has been for years. It’s what Siegfried Engelmann termed “academic child abuse.” It’s not physical child abuse like pedophilia. It’s cognitive child abuse like putting fluoride in the water. It’s a lobotomy without surgical tools.

    One big help would be if smart-ass math majors would stop justifying the stuff. it’s nonsense. It hurts children. The last thing you want to do is make excuses for it.

  • Appalled By The World

    Oh my God.
    I think I’m going to drown myself in the toilet now.

  • Appalled By The World

    LOL. The Genius Leader Of All Mankind (GLOAM) always knows best.

  • ScarletPimpernel

    This takes math anxiety to a whole new level!

  • ScarletPimpernel


  • SineWaveII

    Why ten? Wouldn’t it have made more sense to say “…to add 6 and 7 by making twelve? 6+6 = 12 12+1 = 13 6+7= 13.

  • SineWaveII
  • SineWaveII

    Or in the real world using actual logic you would say.
    7-1 = 6 6+6 = 12 +1 = 13. Or you can just teach them to remember that 6+7 = 13. That works too.

  • PicoFF

    I went into a convenience store and bought an item that was $0.92 and I gave the teenage cashier $1.17 so that she would give be a single quarter as change. The poor girl stared for about 15 seconds at the amount I gave her.. When I realized that she was experiencing vapor lock I tried to explain that $1.17-$0.92 made my change of a single quarter only made it worse. I finally took back 17 cents and she then had no problem giving me a nickel and three pennies.

  • WingMann

    Don’t focus on the math, that’s small potatoes. Focus on the sternum, and other parts of the main body core. Failing that, aim for the legs and feet.

  • Mike_W20


  • TotallyPeeved

    I would GUESS that you are an idiot.

  • chelovek5

    I wasn’t there, so I don’t know what this girl was like, but…I use stats and differential equations for a living, and if someone handed me $1.17 for something that cost 92 cents, I would probably think they had misunderstood the price. It’s also not really that preposterous that this teenage girl you were testing was just unsure of herself and caught off guard at your unusual request.

  • rocky

    Rote memorization allows students to learn more advanced concepts as they progress through school. It’s great to say “students…will rarely if ever use anything more advanced than algebra,” try getting correct change out of the cashier at McDonald’s when they have already entered $20.00 into the register and you fish some coins out of your pocket.

    Common Core is new New NEW Math. The progressive educators keep trying to reinvent the wheel when the one we’ve had for generations works just fine – and better than the new inventions they come up with.

  • PicoFF

    So, you don’t think she was uneducated in arithmetic? I also said that I tried to explain the 25 cents change to her and it made things worse.

  • Bodhisattva

    Actually this is the same ‘new math’ they’ve been teaching for decades. Completing tens is nothing new. They just don’t explain it very clearly in this example, but this is the same ‘bundle of tens’ approach that they’ve been teaching for, well, 50, 60 or maybe more years.

    You can take 3 from the 6, add it to the 7 and you complete a 10 then you have 3 left over so the result is 13. It’s base 10 math.

  • Bodhisattva
  • Bodhisattva

    Complete tens, then the remainder is in the ones place.

    Ever use an abacus?

  • Bodhisattva

    You don’t sound like someone who’s even good at basic math, for if you were you would immediately see that $1.17-$.92=$.25. And no, many people don’t like carrying around a bunch of pennies – so when they have them they do their best to get rid of them in just this fashion.

  • Bodhisattva

    What nonsense is this?

    The federal government has agreed to advertise that many illegal aliens who were previously deported may return on various Mexican and Spanish-language media outlets.

    Get this – 11 illegal aliens LEFT VOLUNTARILY. And because of that uncounted others, estimates range up into the thousands, are now eligible to come back.

    Only in the age of Obama.

  • chelovek5

    Are you illiterate or just retarded? My point, quite clearly, is that if you silently hand someone $1.17 when the total is 92 cents, they’re probably going to be confused. Are you autistic? Do you realize peope can’t read minds? Furthermore, if you do this with some teenage cashier (I’m envisioning someone relatively timid and unsure of herself, presumably at one of her first jobs), it’s not outside the realm of possibility that she was just flustered at something unusual. You following that, Sergeant Pyle, or do I need to get some crayons and draw you a picture?

    Again, I wasn’t there, so I have no clue whether this girl was braindead or not, but the story sounds like it could have multiple explanations.

  • octa bright

    I am not an idiot, I am simply trying to determine what might be the reasoning behind an excessively complex and overly complicated system that appears to be less suitable the original.
    If you disagree with my statement, please explain why you believe that it is not correct. Personal insults serve no purpose other than to make YOU unpleasant. I have been wrong before and I shall be wrong again. Please leave the personal insults to the Progressives.

  • Jakareh

    Looks like Common Core adds up to a big number two.

  • dan

    the answer is 76….

  • Mr. Freemarket

    Next time, make it easy. Swipe your debit card and be done with it.

  • Mr. Freemarket

    Sounds like you are a common core sort of guy. Sadly my childhood development didn’t include the use of an abacus. My people were more “slide rule” sort of folks.

  • Mr. Freemarket

    Careful…you are now attempting to inject logic. That ain’t gonna fly.

  • Mr. Freemarket

    Completing tens may be a great way to do math if you are a base 10 calculator (aka a machine). However, there doesn’t seem to be a single advantage for people to attempt to do math using this system.

    Why make kids attempt to use a system that is only of marginal use to a small number of college students?

  • Joseph

    Forget math, that’s not even English.

  • most can’t do simple math already. want to have some fun? buy something that costs a dollar and twenty eight cents, then hand the kid two dollar bills and three pennies. head explodes in three…two…one…

  • katya Mullethov

    The important thing is to understand what you’re doing rather than get the correct answer .

  • where the hell is my flying car?

  • …or just put down the cell phones and learn how to fucking add and subtract two numbers without using your fingers or a calculator….

  • Bodhisattva

    Here is a white moonbat who ‘just doesn’t get it’

    Early in the piece he shows that he gets it, he just denies it:

    “A 2011 study by scholars at Harvard and Tufts found that whites, on average, believed that anti-white racism was a bigger problem than anti-black racism.”

    And the study is only pointing out that the average white guy gets it.

    Whites have figured out there’s no profit, no gain, in racism.

    Blacks haven’t.

    That’s why, at any race-based opportunity, even a false one where both parties involved are ‘people of color’ (the Zimmerman case), they’re demanding ‘justice’, rioting and looting, and giving those few whites who still ARE prejudiced ample fuel for their racist fires.

    He then launches into a bunch of hand-wringing about how,

    “The net worth of the average black household in the United States is $6,314, compared with $110,500 for the average white household… The gap has worsened…”

    Curiously, he leaves out how much it has worsened since Obama took office and the Democrats started doing their thing with nothing to stop them, which is DRAMATICALLY, SIGNIFICANTLY.

    Now how he blames that on racism, how supposedly racist whites are behind Obama’s actions, or how they’er behind the career choices of young blacks (do I try to get a good job or just become a thug/gangsta?) has yet to be explained, but it gets worse. Look what else he’s blaming on racism:

    “A black boy born today in the United States has a life expectancy five years shorter than that of a white boy.”

    Why? Is it due to various hereditary diseases? White racism causes sickle cell anemia? Or Is it due to increased drug use (including, but not limited to smoking and drinking)? Is it due to poor diet choices? Is it due to promiscuity leading to sexually transmitted diseases? Is it due to young blacks being more likely to choose violent, confrontational lifestyles? Or is he trying to suggest whites are still putting on white sheets and going out a-lynching?

    Now these next two tend to be self-explanatory and certainly don’t indicate any racism:

    “Black students are significantly less likely to attend schools offering advanced math and science courses than white students. They are three times as likely to be suspended and expelled, setting them up for educational failure.”

    He presented them backwards. Let me clear it up: Since blacks are three times as likely to behave in a manner which results in suspension and, since they typically do not respond positively to suspension and other disciplinary actions (see the Zimmerman case, for example), are also three times more likely to get expelled, has there been a reasonable, rational decision to invest the time, money and effort in students who WANT TO LEARN instead of those who, BY THEIR OWN CHOICES AND ACTIONS, would turn their noses up at the chance. This is unfortunate, but it’s common sense, not racist. The decision is not based on race, it’s based on a proven track record that some students refuse to learn and instead choose to disrupt and even to make the class a dangerous place for themselves and others. If there’s someone behind it, look to the parents perhaps – so are we saying black parents are racist against their own children?

    Should we cull those students who show a desire and ability to learn – take them out of the bad environment and put them in better schools. The underachievers choose their underachieving behavior. It’s not forced on them by whites or others.

    And this next one is typical liberal insanity:

    “Because of the catastrophic experiment in mass incarceration, black men in their 20s without a high school diploma are more likely to be incarcerated today than employed, according to a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research. Nearly 70 percent of middle-aged black men who never graduated from high school have been imprisoned.”

    There is no ‘experiment in mass incarceration’. Laws exist that are applied equally to all. A significantly greater fraction of young blacks choose behaviors which run afoul of these laws. They get incarcerated as a result of their own choices and actions. Liberals like to suggest the system is designed or skewed to catch blacks more often than whites, but THIS IS A MYTH, one also falsely promulgated about Hispanics. Extreme moonbats apparently feel that the prison system is the modern KKK, on the lookout for any excuse to lock up, and when possible execute, certain racial/ethnic groups for no good reason at all, apparently. They also attempt to claim blacks routinely get more harsh sentences than whites. Could it be that whites tend to be ‘first time offenders’ and learn from the experience and blacks are ‘repeat offenders’ who do not? What does the data show?

    The legitimate question is ‘WHY DO PEOPLE OF COLOR COMMIT MORE CRIMES’ and of course the cop out, the reason the problem doesn’t get solved, is liberals blame whites, as this article did, when it’s the choices and actions of the ‘person of color’ that are to blame, not whites.

    He then swoops close to an actual fact, but veers away at the last second:

    “All these constitute not a black problem or a white problem, but an American problem. When so much talent is underemployed and overincarcerated, the entire country suffers.”

    Yeah, and with Obama importing as many lawbreakers as he can, looking towards creating an army of angry people of color to engage in violent demonstrations in time for him to declare martial law, suspend elections and declare himself President for Life, things are looking pretty grim.

    He did say his desire was to have an army of his own. Now he’s building one. But one likely to rage out of control – that’s his mistake.

  • Bodhisattva

    Liberal moonbat feminist presents warped liberal moonbat feminist view of world and falsely claims she’s presenting conservative worldview

    The important thing to note, so I’ll repeat it, is each of these ideas sprang from the mind of a liberal moonbat.

    Let me run these down.

    The first image suggests men are mostly interested in sex and only a little interested in love, where women are mostly interested in love and only a little interested in sex.

    Sounds like the opinion of someone with sexual hangups to me. While there are men who want sex and don’t even know what love is, there are women with the same problem. The only truth to this is that men have more testosterone and it tends to make them more aggressive when it comes to initiating sex perhaps. But there’s a fix for this: WOMEN, if your man isn’t proving he’s equally or more interested in love, don’t have sex with him, find someone else who will give you the love you need and deserve FIRST, and only then have sex. Simple fix. Unless the woman is the one who secretly yearns for sex, and thus initiates it, as I’ve found is OFTEN THE CASE.

    The next image suggests men tend to be ugly but see themselves as handsome while women tend to be beautiful but tend to see themselves as ugly. The real world proves this wrong daily. But what if women do tend to have more low self-esteem? Is this the fault of men? What, men don’t lie to women enough? Is that the point she’s making? The truth is many of us, myself included, could probably use an extra hour a week at the gym but our lives don’t always let us answer that need. Or we’re just flat out lazy. I know very few people who are in peak physical condition at any given time. I myself just had to up my own game in preparation for a trip to high altitude that included some rigorous physical activities.

    The next one points out an undeniable fact, though it does so poorly. Some men do tend to be more direct, while SOME women, whether talking with men or talking with women, tend to be more circumspect, so they tend to talk around things sometimes and this hampers effective communication. This is an unfortunate fact and the fact SOME men realize it (and apparently this person does as well) is nothing to be ashamed of. This woman is illustrating a fact, the fact being women deliberately tend to engage in behaviors that are effective blocks to effective, efficient communication, and then blaming it on men. Typical feminist.

    The next suggests men have few sexual experiences but tend to brag not only about each one, but also tend to inflate details as to quantity and perhaps quality as well, while women tend to have more sexual experiences but talk very little about them.

    So what, is she expressing her own view women are sluts and tend to be ashamed of it, then projecting this view on men? That men are disgusting pigs nobody would have sex with who boost their egos by claiming conquests that never happened? What’s her point? I can speak for myself – I don’t go around bragging about what I’m doing with my closest female friends. I don’t get on the phone after having sex and talk about it – though liberal Hollywood portrays women as doing that sometimes – is there any truth to it?

    And finally she suggests the only things men think about when choosing a woman are 1) Is she hot and 2) How quickly can I get her out of her skimpy outfit and into bed?

    Which isn’t true, not in my case, not in many cases I’m aware of. I don’t want a woman who’s only good for sex then is someone I have to keep on a short leash. I don’t want to worry, when I’m out of town or just busy in town, what my girlfriend or wife might be doing. I want someone who’s got skills, knowledge, preferably who’s at least my intellectual equal if not my superior. I want someone who’s interesting and challenging. Stimulating. Yeah if she’s cute that’s a bonus, but it’s actually not #1 on the list.

    It’s fairly clear Yang Liu’ is a typical angry liberal, and probably a feminist, who is confusing her own beliefs with those of others because she can’t face herself and be honest about what SHE believes.

  • Bodhisattva


    Water is vital to life. Imagine if Obama gets any ideas based on this:

    California lawmakers have sent Governor Jerry Brown legislation that would for the first time regulate groundwater use.

    Note how they’re trying to pass the buck here:

    The proposals would require local governments to develop groundwater regulations and give the state the power to step in and enforce restrictions if necessary.

    It’s that second part that’s scariest.

    What if Obama writes rules that require states to do this or that, which allow the U.N. to step in if they don’t?

    “A critical element of addressing the water challenges facing California involves ensuring a sustainable supply of groundwater,” Assemblyman Roger Dickinson, a Sacramento Democrat, said in a statement yesterday.

    Funny, conservatives have been warning FOR DECADES that we have to do something serious about the water situation here. Democrats have been collecting the money to do things but not doing them. They spend the money on planning bullet trains to nowhere, for instance.

  • Bodhisattva

    The East Germans built a wall… Obama’s just making it cost more.

    When Bush was elected, then re-elected, many lib-tard moonbats threatened to renounce their U.S. citizenship. None I know of actually did.

    But now with Obama and the Democrats ruining the country:

    Over the last two years, the U.S. has had a spike in expatriations.

    As with all things, the Obama administration is spinning this, lying about it:

    For 2013, there was a 221% increase, with record numbers of Americans renouncing. The Treasury Department is required to publish a quarterly list, but these numbers are under-stated, some say considerably.

    After Facebook co-founder Eduardo Saverin departed for Singapore, Senators Chuck Schumer and Bob Casey introduced a bill to double the exit tax to 30% for anyone leaving the U.S. for tax reasons.

    To leave America, you generally must prove 5 years of U.S. tax compliance. If you have a net worth greater than $2 million or average annual net income tax for the 5 previous years of $157,000 or more for 2014 (that’s tax, not income), you pay an exit tax. It is a capital gain tax as if you sold your property when you left. At least there’s an exemption of $680,000 for 2014. Long-term residents giving up a Green Card can be required to pay the tax too.

    Now, the State Department interim rule just raised the fee for renunciation of U.S. citizenship to $2,350 from $450. Critics note that it’s more than twenty times the average level in other high-income countries.

  • Bodhisattva

    Apparently, surprisingly, some moonbats have a hard time departing from the truth.

    Or not. Maybe she’s just claiming that. Or making excuses for doing so. Or just trying to look ‘Presidential’.

    Her presence transformed BookHampton, the bookseller the Clintons frequent on their working summer vacations, into a sort of pre-campaign event.

    Clinton is doing her best to rewrite her own past:

    And her efforts have endeared Mrs. Clinton to many gays and lesbians who are raising money toward her potential run. But others look back on the policies of the Clinton Administration and question why it took Mrs. Clinton so long to get on board.

    Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and the Defense of Marriage Act, the 1996 measure President Clinton signed into law that barred federal recognition of same-sex marriages, are widely viewed as among the most significant setbacks the gay rights movement has encountered.

    The Economist put it more bluntly, got it right, calling her “belated conversion” to support same-sex marriage “cautious to the point of cowardice.”

    An accurate description of Clinton if there ever was one, which also helps explain what happened in Benghazi.

    As for whether she supported same-sex marriage when she was in the White House, Clinton said, “I think I’m an American, and I think we have all evolved.”

    In other words, “NO!”

    Moonbats and lib-tards chose Obama for the most racist of reasons – because he’s HALF black – note the lie involved, for he was billed as the first BLACK President but he’s half white, a MULATTO.

    Democrats just couldn’t bring themselves to nominate and elect a true black man, they had to use a half white man and lie about it.

    Gays make up, and this is a generous estimate, 2-4% of the population.

    What’s all the fuss?

  • Bodhisattva

    No, the important thing is that we all reach a consensus, even if it’s wrong.

  • That problem makes perfect sense to me, and I have zero familiarity with Common Core. I doubt I’m the only one, but this is the way I always did math, oddly enough. It’s just what comes naturally to me, and I tend to score very high on IQ tests. I would definitely not want to impose this method on all kids though.

  • PicoFF

    I do that today and almost never deal with cash; debit card only. The episode of the 25 cent change happened almost twenty years ago where the root cause was “new math” and not Core.

  • pookieamos

    Agenda 21 ….

  • LOL

  • Exactly. It took me a bit to realize that they were teaching an algorithm, rather than a defined result. It’s just modular arithmetic. They want kids to draw something like a bar graph to show that six adds to seven by contributing three units to reach 10, leaving three units to create the ones digit. This kind of thinking is useful to help kids become programmers. I actually think most kids could get this if the presentation were more polished.

    This is not a bad thing to teach kids. Not bad at all. The old way was to simply give kids hundreds of addition problems, tell them this technique or something similar at the blackboard when explaining how to do it, and then letting them practice. Common core is doing a good thing by trying to put the idea in writing as a technique, but (1) the packaging could be improved A LOT, if only to demonstrate to parents what exactly they’re trying to accomplish, and that it’s actually something intelligent, but even more importantly, so that PARENTS can help kids, and (2) kids still need to practice hundreds of such problems, so they can make the technique work 100% in real life.

    I’m a big Common Core opponent, but not because every idea in it is bad. There is some good stuff in there – but there is SO much bad stuff. When the head mathematical advisor refused to sign off on the final product, it was clear that there was a problem. And even worse, the overall goal seems to be a reduction in independent thinking, and a substitution of the technical for the philosophical. Good for creating followers – not so good for creating leaders.

    The federal government needs to stop mandating how teachers teach, and instead provide world-class tools for those teachers to use – freely.

    Google “Duke Pesta Common Core” for an enlightening look at this whole topic.

    We need Free Core®, not Common Core®. Kinda funny – Bill Gates backed Common Core, and what do we end up with? The perfect education for people who will serve the crony capitalists who are in cahoots with the big government lying left. We need something more like Linux. The Linux of education. Innovative, free and not designed to make money for crony capitalists.

  • cat

    ??? This wording seems very strange. I assume the point is to teach about tens and ones places — you make 10 (and have 3 ones left over)?
    Back in the day, we just added the numbers, and the teacher explained about “places”, and it made sense. Understanding the “higher” concepts came from doing the basic operations, over & over & over. But that was before calculators were ubiquitous, and cash registers didn’t tell you how much change to give, and we used manual devices like abacuses and slide rules, and the answers to arithmetic problems were not negotiable.

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  • BillyBob Bob

    So this equals 7+6. I’d hate to see the ‘Show your work’ responses from a statistics class.

  • AlanOne7

    Here’s my guess: start with seven dots, start adding dots until you get a group of ten, start another group, stop when you’ve added six dots to the original seven. You’ll have one group of ten and another group of three.

    Right? I only have a BA and MBA and worked for a college for twelve years, so go easy on me.

  • lone scribbler

    It depends on what you mean by ” make”.

  • PicoFF

    Get yourself some crayons since that is where your talent lies. It certainly is not in arithmetic nor math.

  • Pilgrim1949

    I you “make 10 and 10 has twins, then you (1) + 10 + twins = 13 (6 plus 7).


    Or 6 plus 7 = 10 (in base 13)?

  • TR

    7 + 6 = 13, the pragmatic solution.
    [(7 + 6 = 13) – 3] = (10 + 3 = 13) illustration not included. Doing it the hard way, the moonbat solution.

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