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Dec 29 2011

Medical Student Busted at 9/11 Memorial for Thinking NYC Is Part of America

Does this mean the terrorists have won? No; but it means the moonbats are winning:

Meredith Graves, 39, is facing at least three years in prison for thinking New York’s gun laws are anything like those in the Bible Belt.

Graves, a fourth-year medical student, showed up at the [9/11] memorial on Dec. 22 to pay her respects during a trip north for a job interview.

She didn’t realize that the loaded .32-caliber pistol in her purse would be a problem until she saw a sign at the site that read, “No guns allowed,” sources said.

“She remembered she had the gun on her,” a source said. She walked up to a security guard and said, “I have this gun. Where can I check it?”

Instead of checking her gun, authorities dragged her off to a cage in chains like a criminal.

Graves, who has a full legal carry permit in Tennessee, was locked up on a weapons-possession charge and held on $2,000 bond that she posted yesterday. … The Manhattan DA’s Office is pursuing a conviction on felony gun possession — carrying a minimum sentence of 3 1/2 years.

Mayor Bloomberg, with the help of the five district attorneys, has crusaded against the flow of illegal guns, especially from the [hated by Northeastern liberal authoritarians] South.

Explains the victim’s mother-in-law, who lives in New Jersey,

“Everyone down there carries, and she just forgot. She was being honest, and this is the treatment they give innocent people.”

Still worse is the treatment they given the Constitution, which being federal is supposed to apply even in moonbat bastions like New York.

right-to-bear-arms
Is the whole country America, or just parts of it?

On a tip from Sean.

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  • http://www.dakotavoice.com dr. theo

    Why in the world would any real American go to NYC in the first place? I’d rather visit Toledo. That said, can someone let us know where we can contribute to her defense?

  • Tom

    If I see a sign that says “No Guns Allowed”…
    I turn around and go home.

  • Jeff

    If this was a sane, rational country, this would be a none event. Anyone who anounces that they have a firearm and wishes to obey the law is certainty no threat. If the offical had any common sense he would have said: “Thank you ma’m, we’l keep it safe for you. You can pick it up here when you leave. Enjoy you visit and have a good day”. Here is anonther cynical example of the adage that no good deed ever goes unpunished. Way to go you NYC A–holes, you’re created more people who will hold you in contempt, and seek ways break, violate, ignore or circumvent your laws.

  • AC

    The morons who wrote that law are the same ones who would be blaming society and calling for more social spending if a degenerate welfare case dragged her into an alley and raped her at knifepoint.

    Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

    This is why concealed means concealed.

  • F.D.R. in Hell

    New York City… 10x worse than Old York City.

    (And I thought it was bad down here…)

  • FrankW

    Tom kinda missed the point, why?
    Using the NYC love of government as a given: Apply the TSA playbook.
    Once inside a certain perimeter (at which point the weapons ban has not yet been publicly posted) any attempt to leave will result in greater scrutiny and the result would have been the same.
    Granted as a responsible carrier she should have researched the area she wanted to go to better, but it is still an asinine law.

  • metryq

    This reminds me of the scene in THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER where Ramius and Borodin are having a quiet chat. Borodin dreams of marrying an American wife, getting an RV and traveling state-to-state with no papers. The longing in his voice for such an an outlandish dream—no papers—made my heart ache.

    Welcome to Soviet Amerika, where the Second Amendment said nothing about needing a license.

  • Mickey Shea

    God help her if they also find a pack of cigarettes in her purse…that pantywaist with the Fran Drescher voice
    Bloomberg will call for immediate execution.

  • http://www.paradisegone.com rjp

    The Great White Defendant! And play it up for the media because they know she is a threat to everyone and state-designated media’sright to be the official mouthpiece of the people …

    To be honest she should have known to turn around, that wasd mistake number one. Mistake number two: carrying a .32 — step up to a small 9mm so you can drop the perp (Kel-Tec P-11).

  • http://smashabanana.blogspot.com/ Lentenlands

    This really is outrageous

  • http://rebeluniv.blogspot.com Professor Hale

    The sign was irrelevant. She should have known that her permit was not valid in NY state or NYC. And possession of a firearm, concealed or not, is illegal everywhere in NYC without one of their permits. It is her obligation as a permit holder to know the limits of her permit. She failed.

    By telling LEA about her gun, she was reporting herself and admitting to a crime. Naturally the police are going to arrest her, just like if she had committed a crime in her home state.

    Having accidently carried across state lines, she should have just kept her mouth shut until she returned home.

  • jabbernaught

    @Professor Hale

    Have to agree.. she should have just kept her mouth shut and left .. instead, she is now entangled in a mess which was her responsibility to avoid and she failed.

    Still sucks that a decent person has to be treated this way because our country is so fragmented that places like NYC and San Francisco and L.A. or Chicago are enacting laws in opposition to the Constitution and people are entrapped by the government, especially when they are acting in good faith like this woman was.

  • dan

    …should get kicked by the Grand Jury….
    been there , done that…paid a fine instead of five
    years for Federal violation and become a felon.
    Still carry…just less inclined to give up without
    a fight.

  • IslandLifer

    Violation of the constitution in my eyes.

  • troyez

    Chicago is probably worse than NYC, as is the rest of the state of Illinois. I live down-state from Chicago and I have to be subjected to the same police-state mentality and laws of Chicago, which is wrong, the crime is in Chicago – the rest of Illinois has to suffer because we revolve around of Chicago, that shining beacon on a hill (more like “festering pile next to the lake”).

  • beforethestorm

    A lesson to you children…never..ever..trust the authorities.

  • http://www.paradisegone.com rjp

    I am going to look into the Chicago thing Troyez.

  • Hail The Amberlamps!

    Tennessee needs to convoy up there and kick some pinko yankee ass and break her out of the cooler. Let’s get this war for freedom started right.

  • Agnostic Conservative

    When they say violent crime in New York City, the first thing I clearly picture is a 40 year old female doctor with a southern accent.

  • Agnostic Conservative

    @beforethestorm

    100% agreed!

    Most conservatives THINK that the police is on their side.

    Its absolutely ridiculous! The police is the ARMED wing of the tyrannical state!

    This is something libertarians FULLY realize but conservatives don’t because Republicans (mostly not all) who pose as conservatives are just as bad as progressives when it comes to loving the power of the state.

    Watch this video: DON’T TALK TO THE POLICE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

    An law school professor and former criminal defense attorney tells you why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police.

  • http://furtheradventuresofindigored.blogspot.com/ Indigo Red

    Similar thing happened to TEA Party Patriots founder Mark Meckler Dec 15 at New York’s La Guardia Airport. http://tinyurl.com/7c6g39r (NYT).

  • Alanis Morrissette

    Agnostic Conservative is right.
    She does not sound like a Giants playa’!

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    Prof Hale
    “Having accidently carried across state lines”
    Should instead read
    “Having crossed the line into enemy territory”
    Now it all makes sense.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    Agnostic
    If by “authorities” you meant the lawmakers, and the idiots of NY who facilitate such tyranny,the gene pool of potential jurors, ect, we would be in complete agreement.
    But since your focus seems to be exclusively on police,and at your young age I must assume you find that in the adversarial relationship between the defense attorney and police, you place no value in the latter.
    You must understand that in a healthy society, both need to be at the top of their game.
    Your link invokes no hatred or mistrust in police as a whole in me.
    Rather, it does reaffirm the significance of the fifth amendment.
    You heard the cop. Criminals are dumb, and most WANT to talk about their crimes.
    And I have no sympathy for the convicted criminal who got a couple more years because of it. Even better, the system allows for him to still appeal this sentence.
    In my case I can relate to the employer given as an example, with certain former employees making off with whatever is not nailed to the floor, while spending their time on the clock loosening what is.
    The criminal does not waste time with the small stuff anymore.
    Large pieces of agricultural, and construction equipment are making tracks, auto chop shops specializing in expensive imports, or diesel trucks are becoming the norm. Center pivot irrigators are having high voltage copper lines ripped from them.
    The criminal is more emboldened than ever.
    And it’s not starvation, or grinding poverty that causes this crime.
    Rather that one can AFFORD to be a criminal
    Hardly the recipe of a police tyranny.

  • EA

    Notice what the effect of no gun zones actually is. The person who tries to comply with the law becomes the victim. Does anyone believe that any real criminals left their guns at home? Of course not. Only the honest people comply. As a result, when you enter a “gun free” zone you are actually entering an area that is significantly more dangerous than the surrounding area.

  • http://14 Cameraman

    NYC is so Fked up its Crazy! Get a Good Lawyer and start a class Action Suit against the Law, start the fight for your RIGHT,The 2nd is your Carry Permit, Period!

  • HF

    FORGOT She was packing ? Really ? Come on folks what a load of Bullsh..t! As a retired NYC detective, and as a person who has packed a concealed weapon for over 24 years, let me tell you that anyone who packs a firearm NEVER “forgets” that they have the weapon on their person. You are always aware of the weapon either by training or just the weight of the piece. Furthermore all concealed weapons permit holders are made aware that the laws in one State have nothing to do with another state in the union. I’d bet dollars to Doughnuts that she just didn’t realize she’d be subject to scrutiny at ground zero. Im also sure she made a cognizant decision NOT to fly to NYC for the very same reason.

  • Alan

    Tough one. She wasn’t arrested for carrying a weapon, she was arrested for being stupid.

    A) How could any RESPONSIBLE gun-owner “forget” they carried a weapon across state lines, or, in this case, across four or five state lines? (look at a map)

    B) Wherever you go, you follow THEIR laws. If, say, medical marijuana is legal in California, don’t “forget” to clean your stash before heading to Utah or Texas. If it is technically legal to drink and drive in Montana (and it is, as long as you’re not drunk) dump your beer before heading to South Dakota.

    C) Next time, walk away and keep your stupid mouth shut. Carrying a gun, even legally, and see a metal detector? Don’t look for trouble, just turn around and walk away.

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