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Jan 05 2016

Debunking Ted Cruz Myths

Don’t let these three myths stop you from supporting Ted Cruz:

1. Ted Cruz Isn’t a Natural Born Citizen
2. Ted Cruz is Beholden to Big Business Because His Wife Works for Goldman Sachs
3. Ted Cruz Can’t Beat Hillary Clinton

The Blaze burns all three of them to ashes. Regarding the last one:

In a survey by CNN and ORC, taken on December 17–21, Cruz is beating Clinton by 2 percentage points (48 percent to 46 percent), while Trump is losing by 2 percentage points in the same poll. A Quinnipiac poll taken around the same time shows Cruz is tied with Clinton while Trump is down by 7 percentage points. A third December poll, this time by Fox News, shows Trump down by 11 and Cruz again in a tie.

Trump has powerful positives — but he also has strong negatives, including for conservatives.

Given her lack of any accomplishments despite being handed every opportunity, her firmly established record of corruption and incompetence, a reptilian personality that it is not possible to find appealing, and all the shameful baggage that comes in the person of her impeached, disbarred, irresponsible degenerate husband, Shrillary will be arguably the worst candidate to top a major party ticket in the history of the nation. That’s why they hold the Democrat debates on Saturday night, when no one is watching.

But she can’t hide forever. Cruz’s superior intellect would totally devastate her in head-to-head debates.

A country that would chose Shrillary over Cruz probably can’t be saved anyway. It would be a country in which hard-working regular Americans are hopelessly outnumbered by imported Third Worlders and the welfare class; a country in which there is no longer any point voting. If it can still be saved, it will most likely be by someone with well-grounded conservative principles.

hillary-cruz-leavenworth
Via DanSch.



  • TED

    YOU BET if Cruz is elected you’re moving to Leavenworth! http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Harper_Revisionist_Hillary.jpg

  • TED

    YOU BET if Cruz is elected you’re moving to Leavenworth! http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Harper_Revisionist_Hillary.jpg

  • Eddie_Valiant

    A few days ago, I had a run-in with a drone here on MB. He jumped on my support of Cruz:

    Jackson Furst • 7 days ago
    You’e DELUSIONAL. Ted Cruz is a bought and paid for politician. He’s thoroughly unlikable to mainstream Americans thanks to his far right loony religious stances on social issues. Trump is far more Reagan-esque than Cruz will ever be

    Initially I thought he might be a misinformed Trumpie until he posted this:
    This also tells me that Cruz would be a President for only SOME Americans not ALL. Any candidate who does not stand for “Equal Rights for ALL Americans” is not someone I want anywhere near The White House. I’d vote for Hillary before I’d vote for Cruz.

    Vote for Hillary? Either this is one of the most brain-dead zombies on the planet or he’s one of those paid posters, hired to plant false stories that can be found by the search engines.

  • Eddie_Valiant

    A few days ago, I had a run-in with a drone here on MB. He jumped on my support of Cruz:

    Jackson Furst • 7 days ago
    You’e DELUSIONAL. Ted Cruz is a bought and paid for politician. He’s thoroughly unlikable to mainstream Americans thanks to his far right loony religious stances on social issues. Trump is far more Reagan-esque than Cruz will ever be

    Initially I thought he might be a misinformed Trumpie until he posted this:
    This also tells me that Cruz would be a President for only SOME Americans not ALL. Any candidate who does not stand for “Equal Rights for ALL Americans” is not someone I want anywhere near The White House. I’d vote for Hillary before I’d vote for Cruz.

    Vote for Hillary? Either this is one of the most brain-dead zombies on the planet or he’s one of those paid posters, hired to plant false stories that can be found by the search engines.

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  • mauser 98

    Blaze comments section destroys articles claim that Cruz is ineligible
    a great read
    Cruz would be good POTUS but he is ineligible

    besides.. Glen Beck dug himself a hole with Obama eligibility and can’t get out

  • mauser 98

    Blaze comments section destroys articles claim that Cruz is ineligible
    a great read
    Cruz would be good POTUS but he is ineligible

    besides.. Glen Beck dug himself a hole with Obama eligibility and can’t get out

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  • DJ

    Polling data/results for primaries are very unreliable. There are too many confounding variables to take in consideration. However, those confounding variables all seem to point in Trump’s favor. I.e., Trump has a lot of party crossover appeal. E.g., he will attract a greater percentage of the black and Hispanic vote than any other GOP candidate will. In addition he will garner all the so-called Reagan Democrats. IOWs, it will cut into Hillary’s base. That’ll more than make-up for the cuckservatives and neocons that won’t vote for him.

    .

    In any event, the Las Vegas odds makers still have Hillary as odds on favorite to win the general. Cruz is still in the hunt but he is in fifth place.

    .

    Clinton’s odds to win the Presidency remained at -140 after the debate but potential Republican nominees have seen their odds fluctuate slightly. Marco Rubio was +400 as of December 17, but fell to +550. Donald Trump has surpassed Rubio, with the polarizing figure (the nice way to say it) shifting from +650 to +500.

    2016 US Presidential Election – Next President of the United States

    Odds as of December 28 at Bovada

    Hillary Clinton -140

    Donald Trump +500

    Maco Rubio +550

    Bernie Sanders +700

    Ted Cruz +1000

    Jeb Bush +2000

    Chris Christie +2800

    Ben Carson +10000

    John Kasich +12500

    Carly Fiorina +15000

    http://www.oddsshark.com/entertainment/us-presidential-odds-2016-futures

  • DJ

    Polling data/results for primaries are very unreliable. There are too many confounding variables to take in consideration. However, those confounding variables all seem to point in Trump’s favor. I.e., Trump has a lot of party crossover appeal. E.g., he will attract a greater percentage of the black and Hispanic vote than any other GOP candidate will. In addition he will garner all the so-called Reagan Democrats. IOWs, it will cut into Hillary’s base. That’ll more than make-up for the cuckservatives and neocons that won’t vote for him.

    .

    In any event, the Las Vegas odds makers still have Hillary as odds on favorite to win the general. Cruz is still in the hunt but he is in fifth place.

    .

    Clinton’s odds to win the Presidency remained at -140 after the debate but potential Republican nominees have seen their odds fluctuate slightly. Marco Rubio was +400 as of December 17, but fell to +550. Donald Trump has surpassed Rubio, with the polarizing figure (the nice way to say it) shifting from +650 to +500.

    2016 US Presidential Election – Next President of the United States

    Odds as of December 28 at Bovada

    Hillary Clinton -140

    Donald Trump +500

    Maco Rubio +550

    Bernie Sanders +700

    Ted Cruz +1000

    Jeb Bush +2000

    Chris Christie +2800

    Ben Carson +10000

    John Kasich +12500

    Carly Fiorina +15000

    http://www.oddsshark.com/entertainment/us-presidential-odds-2016-futures

  • TED
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  • Cruz can win simply by being a class act. His appeal is that of a statesman. Also, anyone who thinks Sanders has a better shot at being the president than Ted Cruz is hopeless.

  • Cruz can win simply by being a class act. His appeal is that of a statesman. Also, anyone who thinks Sanders has a better shot at being the president than Ted Cruz is hopeless.

  • No, Cruz is eligible. Here is a good link for you to read, if you care.

    https://bradleycountynews.wordpress.com/2015/03/25/ted-cruzs-a-civics-lesson-for-the-uninformed/

    Also, saying that because Beck questioned Obama’s eligibility he can’t support Cruz is like saying because I don’t like one fruit, I have to hate all fruits. It’s wholly illogical, as the details are quite different.

    When Obama was born, the immigration law on the books was quite different than when Cruz was born. However, I think the bigger deal with Obama was that he is not who he says he is. Facially, he looks a lot like Frank Marshall Davis, and that is probably the reason for the ersatz marriage of his parents.

  • No, Cruz is eligible. Here is a good link for you to read, if you care.

    https://bradleycountynews.wordpress.com/2015/03/25/ted-cruzs-a-civics-lesson-for-the-uninformed/

    Also, saying that because Beck questioned Obama’s eligibility he can’t support Cruz is like saying because I don’t like one fruit, I have to hate all fruits. It’s wholly illogical, as the details are quite different.

    When Obama was born, the immigration law on the books was quite different than when Cruz was born. However, I think the bigger deal with Obama was that he is not who he says he is. Facially, he looks a lot like Frank Marshall Davis, and that is probably the reason for the ersatz marriage of his parents.

  • DJ

    “Cruz can win simply by being a class act.”
    .
    Yeah. Sure.
    .
    ” His appeal is that of a statesman.”

    No argument from me there.
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    “Also, anyone who thinks Sanders has a better shot at being the president than Ted Cruz is hopeless.”
    .
    You have to take that up with the odds maker. I don’t know what methodology he uses to come up with those odds. But keep in mind we are talking about an Americano electorate that elected a Marxist globalist president — not once but twice! In light of that tragedy, it certainly is not out of the realm of possibilities Bernie could get elected.
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    Bottom-line, in 2016 AmeriKWA, we conservatives need to come to grips with the fact that moonbat voters outnumber conservative voters by a significant margin — and that margin is growing by the day. Given that, Hillary has a much better chance to win the general than a rock ribbed conservative such as Cruz. Sorry for the negativity, but that’s the demographic reality we live in.

  • DJ

    “Cruz can win simply by being a class act.”
    .
    Yeah. Sure.
    .
    ” His appeal is that of a statesman.”

    No argument from me there.
    .
    “Also, anyone who thinks Sanders has a better shot at being the president than Ted Cruz is hopeless.”
    .
    You have to take that up with the odds maker. I don’t know what methodology he uses to come up with those odds. But keep in mind we are talking about an Americano electorate that elected a Marxist globalist president — not once but twice! In light of that tragedy, it certainly is not out of the realm of possibilities Bernie could get elected.
    .
    Bottom-line, in 2016 AmeriKWA, we conservatives need to come to grips with the fact that moonbat voters outnumber conservative voters by a significant margin — and that margin is growing by the day. Given that, Hillary has a much better chance to win the general than a rock ribbed conservative such as Cruz. Sorry for the negativity, but that’s the demographic reality we live in.

  • DJ

    BTW, if forced to chose between Hillary and Sanders, I’d chose Sanders in a heartbeat. At least he wouldn’t get us into an all out war with Russia like Hillary would.
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    TRUMP 2016

  • DJ

    BTW, if forced to chose between Hillary and Sanders, I’d chose Sanders in a heartbeat. At least he wouldn’t get us into an all out war with Russia like Hillary would.
    .
    TRUMP 2016

  • mauser 98

    ???
    Beck called “birthers” every name in the book
    Beck bent over and grabbed his ankles for Bummer
    yathink FOX , $$$ , threats involved?
    Beck is a sellout
    “Cruz isn’t eligible on 2 counts. He wasn’t born “in the country” and
    BOTH his parents were not U.S. citizens at the time of his birth.

    everything you need to know on this subject. Be informed not fooled.”

    https://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2012/01/

    i agree with FMD as possible father
    where is documentation of name change to Soetoro and back to Obama?
    no evidence of Obama’s real legal identity exists

  • mauser 98

    ???
    Beck called “birthers” every name in the book
    Beck bent over and grabbed his ankles for Bummer
    yathink FOX , $$$ , threats involved?
    Beck is a sellout
    “Cruz isn’t eligible on 2 counts. He wasn’t born “in the country” and
    BOTH his parents were not U.S. citizens at the time of his birth.

    everything you need to know on this subject. Be informed not fooled.”

    https://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2012/01/

    i agree with FMD as possible father
    where is documentation of name change to Soetoro and back to Obama?
    no evidence of Obama’s real legal identity exists

  • Fiberal

    Oh Sure…. Dave, this isn’t going to be a battle of intellects.

    If it were, yes, Cruz would win hands down. Superior intellect? What?

    C’mon. Most of Hilliary’s constituency have never sat in chairs.

    .

    Let me explain why Trump can beat Hilliary where Cruz cannot.

    First, show me the mainstream political institutions (besides a union or two) that are all in for Trump. Practically EVERYONE in the MSM have dissed Trump. This influences the betting odds as well as the pollsters. (BTW look at the bias history of Gallup for that matter).

    What will pull Trump over is his mind-boggling popular support. Look:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/05/this-crowd-shot-from-a-donald-trump-rally-is-absolutely-eye-popping/

    What will defeat Trump is Romney-style disengagement of the electorate and that isn’t happening this time.

    Secondly, besides the absolute repulsiveness of Clinton, along with her space-alien stupidity, incompetency and criminality, there are major factors in place that favor Trump.

    Namely:

    Look at the idiocy attributable to BO, dimocrats and RINOs all practically just in the latest news cycle: New EOs on gun control; huge amounts of new immigration; global warming; $20T debt with latest $1.1T spending spree budget; mideast going (lit.) ballistic with a possible war between Iran and Saudi Arabia drawing us and Russia into it; ISIS atrocities; terrorism in the U.S.; the new Bengazi movie with probably other “swift boats” to come; Bill Clinton’s insatiable schlonging; Obamacare for small businesses and Obamacare….and on and on.

    —– these are negatives and in no one’s interest; they belong to the dims and BO’s not yet done wrecking the country.

    So more crap on the way. (BTW if the Fair Housing Act takes hold in neighborhoods in 2016, its all over for the dim party)

    Hilliary will have to take either a supportive or neutral position on these issues (since Trump will jump all over them). But ignoring them will not work due to the urgency of the problems.

    Thirdly: Trump is a master strategist. In a general election, he will have no reason not to pull out every resource, all his mental energy and his cut-throat business experience to get the attention of the majority of Americans needed to crush the Clinton machine.

    He is an alpha and Hilliary is a gin-soaked dishrag. This is key to his winning.

    One could speculate that it would not be out of question that if Trump runs private investigations into Clinton’s criminal history, including the Clinton foundation, and promises prosecution of the hag once in the WH – that may be enough.

    Trump may also wind up neutralizing Clinton’s woman vote using her rapist husband. He has yet to point out that Bill is relevant since Hilliary abetted Bill over a long period of time, over many “bimbo eruptions” solely in order to hold onto her power base. Importantly, Bill has also been implicated in engaging in underage affairs on a private island.

    Trump has some minority support – something Cruz probably won’t be able to garner to the same extent.

    Yes. Clinton does has going for her the abyss of stupidity, greed and immorality of Americans, a huge dimocrat cheating machine, foreign money, illegal immigrant voting and the MSM support, regardless.

    But with such a huge tsunami of detritus backing her ….. How could Cruz, acting without the resources of The Donald, ever pull off a victory against that?

    .

    It won’t be his intellect alone. That’s for dang sure.

  • Fiberal

    Oh Sure…. Dave, this isn’t going to be a battle of intellects.

    If it were, yes, Cruz would win hands down. Superior intellect? What?

    C’mon. Most of Hilliary’s constituency have never sat in chairs.

    .

    Let me explain why Trump can beat Hilliary where Cruz cannot.

    First, show me the mainstream political institutions (besides a union or two) that are all in for Trump. Practically EVERYONE in the MSM have dissed Trump. This influences the betting odds as well as the pollsters. (BTW look at the bias history of Gallup for that matter).

    What will pull Trump over is his mind-boggling popular support. Look:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/05/this-crowd-shot-from-a-donald-trump-rally-is-absolutely-eye-popping/

    What will defeat Trump is Romney-style disengagement of the electorate and that isn’t happening this time.

    Secondly, besides the absolute repulsiveness of Clinton, along with her space-alien stupidity, incompetency and criminality, there are major factors in place that favor Trump.

    Namely:

    Look at the idiocy attributable to BO, dimocrats and RINOs all practically just in the latest news cycle: New EOs on gun control; huge amounts of new immigration; global warming; $20T debt with latest $1.1T spending spree budget; mideast going (lit.) ballistic with a possible war between Iran and Saudi Arabia drawing us and Russia into it; ISIS atrocities; terrorism in the U.S.; the new Bengazi movie with probably other “swift boats” to come; Bill Clinton’s insatiable schlonging; Obamacare for small businesses and Obamacare….and on and on.

    —– these are negatives and in no one’s interest; they belong to the dims and BO’s not yet done wrecking the country.

    So more crap on the way. (BTW if the Fair Housing Act takes hold in neighborhoods in 2016, its all over for the dim party)

    Hilliary will have to take either a supportive or neutral position on these issues (since Trump will jump all over them). But ignoring them will not work due to the urgency of the problems.

    Thirdly: Trump is a master strategist. In a general election, he will have no reason not to pull out every resource, all his mental energy and his cut-throat business experience to get the attention of the majority of Americans needed to crush the Clinton machine.

    He is an alpha and Hilliary is a gin-soaked dishrag. This is key to his winning.

    One could speculate that it would not be out of question that if Trump runs private investigations into Clinton’s criminal history, including the Clinton foundation, and promises prosecution of the hag once in the WH – that may be enough.

    Trump may also wind up neutralizing Clinton’s woman vote using her rapist husband. He has yet to point out that Bill is relevant since Hilliary abetted Bill over a long period of time, over many “bimbo eruptions” solely in order to hold onto her power base. Importantly, Bill has also been implicated in engaging in underage affairs on a private island.

    Trump has some minority support – something Cruz probably won’t be able to garner to the same extent.

    Yes. Clinton does has going for her the abyss of stupidity, greed and immorality of Americans, a huge dimocrat cheating machine, foreign money, illegal immigrant voting and the MSM support, regardless.

    But with such a huge tsunami of detritus backing her ….. How could Cruz, acting without the resources of The Donald, ever pull off a victory against that?

    .

    It won’t be his intellect alone. That’s for dang sure.

  • Ol’ Uncle Lar

    “C’mon. Most of Hilliary’s constituency have never sat in chairs”
    Only because they’ve outlawed the electric ones.

  • Ol’ Uncle Lar

    “C’mon. Most of Hilliary’s constituency have never sat in chairs”
    Only because they’ve outlawed the electric ones.

  • Fiberal

    LOL

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    LOL

  • Admiral Ackbar!

    Ted Cruz reminds me of Hilliary. When asked what his top three achievements are, his supporters stare at you. They can’t mention one piece of legislation – without Googling. They can’t state one issue in which he has had any influence. Is he just another Trey Gowdy who looks like the real deal, but suspiciously gets nothing substantive done and supports RINOs?

  • Admiral Ackbar!

    Ted Cruz reminds me of Hilliary. When asked what his top three achievements are, his supporters stare at you. They can’t mention one piece of legislation – without Googling. They can’t state one issue in which he has had any influence. Is he just another Trey Gowdy who looks like the real deal, but suspiciously gets nothing substantive done and supports RINOs?

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    NO, this DID NOT come from Trump’s web site…

  • TED

    NO, this DID NOT come from Trump’s web site…

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  • fustian24

    In a universe of logic and sense, Hillary would already be jailed.

    But we don’t live in that universe.

    Cruz will never touch Hillary. He’d be foolish to expend the political capital necessary to do that when it could be more profitably spent elsewhere.

    To really create sensible change in America will require lots of pain. I don’t expect a real reformer to last more than one term.

  • fustian24

    In a universe of logic and sense, Hillary would already be jailed.

    But we don’t live in that universe.

    Cruz will never touch Hillary. He’d be foolish to expend the political capital necessary to do that when it could be more profitably spent elsewhere.

    To really create sensible change in America will require lots of pain. I don’t expect a real reformer to last more than one term.

  • fustian24

    But you can say what he hasn’t done.

    He hasn’t just thrown up his hands and caved in.

    Screaming whoa is at least a start.

    You show me a conservative with lots of “accomplishments” and I’ll show you somebody that caved.

  • fustian24

    But you can say what he hasn’t done.

    He hasn’t just thrown up his hands and caved in.

    Screaming whoa is at least a start.

    You show me a conservative with lots of “accomplishments” and I’ll show you somebody that caved.

  • TED

    Of course, besides the FACT the LEFT are NEVER made to pay for their criminal acts. I’ve said before, there’s an unspoken rule that goes EVERYONE KNOWS the left are criminals SO we should NOT be surprised when they do criminal things, SO they are NEVER punished for it! At least THAT seems to be the rule! How else do you explain being held to totally DIFFERENT standards?!

  • TED

    Of course, besides the FACT the LEFT are NEVER made to pay for their criminal acts. I’ve said before, there’s an unspoken rule that goes EVERYONE KNOWS the left are criminals SO we should NOT be surprised when they do criminal things, SO they are NEVER punished for it! At least THAT seems to be the rule! How else do you explain being held to totally DIFFERENT standards?!

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  • Lockstein13

    Agreed, the first point is garbage.

    The second point, however, IS legitimate: there is STILL NO GOOD EXPLANATION why Cruz voted in support of aspects of the Trans Pacific Trade Deal. WHO PAID HIM OFF to do so?

    The third is, in my opinion, the most important. I believe Cruz is a most capable PLEADER (though utterly wonky too often)…when America needs a FIGHTER. Cruz has had NO “fire in the belly” over the past six months. And, while I like his tenacity and principles as seen on the Senate floor, it’s easy to be “noble” when you know you’re going to lose…over and over and over.

    I’ll take Trump, risks and all.
    Trump
    1) wants to build a wall, stop illegal immigration, and begin deportation…
    2) wants to stop Common Core federalization of education…
    3) doesn’t support the TPP trade deal, and…
    4) wants to actually repeal ObamaCare and replace with market/consumer
    approach..
    THOSE ARE MY PRIORITIES, as well.

    Either would be a major improvement.

  • Lockstein13

    Agreed, the first point is garbage.

    The second point, however, IS legitimate: there is STILL NO GOOD EXPLANATION why Cruz voted in support of aspects of the Trans Pacific Trade Deal. WHO PAID HIM OFF to do so?

    The third is, in my opinion, the most important. I believe Cruz is a most capable PLEADER (though utterly wonky too often)…when America needs a FIGHTER. Cruz has had NO “fire in the belly” over the past six months. And, while I like his tenacity and principles as seen on the Senate floor, it’s easy to be “noble” when you know you’re going to lose…over and over and over.

    I’ll take Trump, risks and all.
    Trump
    1) wants to build a wall, stop illegal immigration, and begin deportation…
    2) wants to stop Common Core federalization of education…
    3) doesn’t support the TPP trade deal, and…
    4) wants to actually repeal ObamaCare and replace with market/consumer
    approach..
    THOSE ARE MY PRIORITIES, as well.

    Either would be a major improvement.

    p.s. The Blaze has devolved into a nutjob, highly unreliable site.

  • Lockstein13

    EXACTLY. It’s easy to be “brave” when you know you’ve got nothing to lose.

  • Lockstein13

    EXACTLY. It’s easy to be “brave” when you know you’ve got nothing to lose.

  • Lockstein13

    Care to tell us also which huge donors contributed to Cruz?!?
    Otherwise, you’re just throwing spitballs from the peanut gallery.

  • Lockstein13

    Care to tell us also which huge donors contributed to Cruz?!?
    Otherwise, you’re just throwing spitballs from the peanut gallery.

  • Lockstein13

    Yawn.

  • Lockstein13

    Yawn. That makes for a cute Sunday sermon. Nothing else.

  • Lockstein13

    Your naivete is exceeded only by your delusions.
    “Class act”?!?

  • Lockstein13

    Your naivete is exceeded only by your delusions.
    “Class act”?!?

  • TED

    Ted Cruz or Trump – I DON’T CARE!

  • TED

    Ted Cruz or Trump – I DON’T CARE!

  • TED

    Name ONE politician…!

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    Name ONE politician…!

  • TED

    Hate facts? You’re on the WRONG party blog… 😎

  • TED

    Hate facts? You’re on the WRONG party blog… 😎

  • Admiral Ackbar!

    Is that the only option? Either a traitor or someone who hasn’t accomplished anything for our side? Is that it? How pitiful! That’s been the GOP playbook for decades…at the very BEST, they’ve played defense so not as many bad things happened as would have if the Demoncraps were in charge. No, that’s not good enough any more. TRUMP 2016!

  • Admiral Ackbar!

    Is that the only option? Either a traitor or someone who hasn’t accomplished anything for our side? Is that it? How pitiful! That’s been the GOP playbook for decades…at the very BEST, they’ve played defense so not as many bad things happened as would have if the Demoncraps were in charge. No, that’s not good enough any more. TRUMP 2016!

  • fustian24

    Trump hasn’t done anything for our side either but talk a big game. And for most of his life, he’s been talking like a democrat.

    You understand I hope, that our political system was organized to make it very difficult to get things done at the federal level. PJ O’Rourke used to say that our government has the brakes of a semi-truck, but the engine of a lawn mower.

    With a democratic President and without veto-proof majorities in the House and Senate, just what were you expecting him to do?

  • fustian24

    Trump hasn’t done anything for our side either but talk a big game. And for most of his life, he’s been talking like a democrat.

    You understand I hope, that our political system was organized to make it very difficult to get things done at the federal level. PJ O’Rourke used to say that our government has the brakes of a semi-truck, but the engine of a lawn mower.

    With a democratic President and without veto-proof majorities in the House and Senate, just what were you expecting him to do?

  • Admiral Ackbar!

    Excuses, excuses, excuses. If things are so “difficult” to get done at a federal level, why is it that the Demoncraps are able to not only advance their causes continually, but rob me to pay for it?

    How did Tip O’Neill get what he wanted? He had to bargain. That’s how Reagan got his “half a loaf”. The GOP, including Cruz, has either: a) allowed themselves to be snookered for no good reason other than they’re cowards and idiots, or b) did get something in return, but nothing for their constituents…except their masters in corporate America.

    “With a democratic President and without veto-proof majorities in the House and Senate, just what were you expecting him to do?”

    Oops! Sorry! THe GOP controlled the House, Senate and Presidency from 2001-2007 and the only thing we have to show for it was new socialist spending, hand-outs for corporate America and wars against countries that were no threat to us, had nothing to do with 9/11 and cost us 35000 dead and wounded. The worthless POSs didn’t even get rid of funding for NPR, mush less anything important! The worst thing that happened to the GOP was their capture of the legislative and executive branches and exposed themselves as the Demoncrap-lites they actually are.

    Trump’s not done anything yet? True enough, but he’s not been in the government so that was an idiotic comment. Do I know Trump will do what he promises? Do I know for a fact that Trump is the answer? No, I don’t. But, I sure as hell know the others, including Cruz, are NOT!

  • Admiral Ackbar!

    Excuses, excuses, excuses. If things are so “difficult” to get done at a federal level, why is it that the Demoncraps are able to not only advance their causes continually, but rob me to pay for it?

    How did Tip O’Neill get what he wanted? He had to bargain. That’s how Reagan got his “half a loaf”. The GOP, including Cruz, has either: a) allowed themselves to be snookered for no good reason other than they’re cowards and idiots, or b) did get something in return, but nothing for their constituents…except their masters in corporate America.

    “With a democratic President and without veto-proof majorities in the House and Senate, just what were you expecting him to do?”

    Oops! Sorry! THe GOP controlled the House, Senate and Presidency from 2001-2007 and the only thing we have to show for it was new socialist spending, hand-outs for corporate America and wars against countries that were no threat to us, had nothing to do with 9/11 and cost us 35000 dead and wounded. The worthless POSs didn’t even get rid of funding for NPR, mush less anything important! The worst thing that happened to the GOP was their capture of the legislative and executive branches and exposed themselves as the Demoncrap-lites they actually are.

    Trump’s not done anything yet? True enough, but he’s not been in the government so that was an idiotic comment. Do I know Trump will do what he promises? Do I know for a fact that Trump is the answer? No, I don’t. But, I sure as hell know the others, including Cruz, are NOT!

  • fustian24

    Well, right now the democrats have structural advantages that they’re leveraging to the hilt. The first is that they have the Presidency, so that conservative bills require a supermajority to pass (which the republicans don’t have). The second is an enemy press that will crucify any republican that is perceived to have shut down the government.

    Now, personally I’m not so sure the enemy press can pull that off this time, even though it has worked every time in the recent past. There are too many people that hate Obamacare and what happened at Planned Parenthood this time around. It may be that this IS the time to push tough budget bills on the President. This was the Cruz position. Remember the filibusters? He was against folding on the budget.

    But right or wrong, the republicans believe that if they don’t step in anything, they have a good chance of beating Hillary. It’s why they have avoided a budget standoff. I THINK this is a bad strategy, but nobody KNOWS since we aren’t actually going to try it.

    I would remind you that in 2001-2007, Cruz was not in the Senate and, thus, had nothing to do with that.

    For me the recent budget was a complete betrayal and Ryan is dead to me.

    If this roll over and play dead strategy DOES work and the republicans retain both houses and get the Presidency, then they really need to show us something. If they don’t, there won’t be a republican party for much longer. They may even die if they just lose the Presidency. They will have sold their souls for nothing.

    Trump is a hugely vulnerable candidate. My belief is that he will be legendarily slaughtered if he makes it to the general election. This is a guy that’s made a fortune in the casino and building trades in New York and New Jersey. What’s the chances he pulled that off and remained clean? Zero? You think the democrats he bought off don’t know exactly where all those bodies are buried?

    The only way Trump makes it through this gauntlet is if he’s already sold us out to a political establishment that fears it can’t drag Hillary across the line.

  • fustian24

    Well, right now the democrats have structural advantages that they’re leveraging to the hilt. The first is that they have the Presidency, so that conservative bills require a supermajority to pass (which the republicans don’t have). The second is an enemy press that will crucify any republican that is perceived to have shut down the government.

    Now, personally I’m not so sure the enemy press can pull that off this time, even though it has worked every time in the recent past. There are too many people that hate Obamacare and what happened at Planned Parenthood this time around. It may be that this IS the time to push tough budget bills on the President. This was the Cruz position. Remember the filibusters? He was against folding on the budget.

    But right or wrong, the republicans believe that if they don’t step in anything, they have a good chance of beating Hillary. It’s why they have avoided a budget standoff. I THINK this is a bad strategy, but nobody KNOWS since we aren’t actually going to try it.

    I would remind you that in 2001-2007, Cruz was not in the Senate and, thus, had nothing to do with that.

    For me the recent budget was a complete betrayal and Ryan is dead to me.

    If this roll over and play dead strategy DOES work and the republicans retain both houses and get the Presidency, then they really need to show us something. If they don’t, there won’t be a republican party for much longer. They may even die if they just lose the Presidency. They will have sold their souls for nothing.

    Trump is a hugely vulnerable candidate. My belief is that he will be legendarily slaughtered if he makes it to the general election. This is a guy that’s made a fortune in the casino and building trades in New York and New Jersey. What’s the chances he pulled that off and remained clean? Zero? You think the democrats he bought off don’t know exactly where all those bodies are buried?

    The only way Trump makes it through this gauntlet is if he’s already sold us out to a political establishment that fears it can’t drag Hillary across the line.

  • Admiral Ackbar!

    Oh God, more excuses, excuses, excuses? Most of the “structural advantages” the Demoncraps have are the direct result of GOP acquiescence. Control of the presidency is indeed a massive advantage…but not when the GOP holds it. That’s because the GOP is only interested, like Cruz, in getting wealthy by shilling for corporate America.

    Yes, they have an advantage in a leftist press…which the GOP, including Cruz, has never attempted to lessen by defunding the most-leftist media of all – PBS, NPR et al which daily spew cultural-marxist drivel on my dime. Cruz gives us interesting theater in his occasional “filibusters”, being seen doing something he knows will pass anyway.

    No, Cruz was not in the Senate from 2001-2007. He was in the Bush administration. After working on the legal team helping him win Florida and, the election, Cruz was given a plum position in the Justice Department. That Cruz was a Bushie should raise all kinds of red flags as just another ersatz conservative. He was then given a plum job in Texas (with the Bushes help) where he could wait “his turn” to get a Senate seat.

    I’m not waiting for their “roll over ” strategy as you so colorfully put it. I’ve seen this movie before and know how it ends.

    Trump “vulnerable”? Really? Only in your fantasies. You’ve been saying that since last June haven’t you? His poll numbers just keep going up too, don’t they? He is no more “vulnerable” than Cruz and far more electable. Trump can pull (and there’s evidence that he will) many Reagan Democrats back into voting GOP which is crucial in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania. Cruz can’t because he is a shill for corporate America and protecting America jobs from unfair Chinese competition isn’t in his donors’ interest.

    As for the “bodies”, you’re just dreaming again. If there was something the GOP establishment would be using it already. They’re desperate enough.

    Trump already sold us out? You’re irrational. Why would each and every GOP donor, strategist and hack from Rove to George Will be out for his head if he had “already sold us out”? The leftist press hates him more than anyone else and obviously scares the living crap out of them. Anyone who is despised by the Demoncrap establishment, the GOP establishment and the media already has all the endorsements he needs.

    The fact of the matter is that even if he had indeed sold us out, that’d be nothing each and every GOP candidate – including Cruz – hasn’t already done.

  • Admiral Ackbar!

    Oh God, more excuses, excuses, excuses? Most of the “structural advantages” the Demoncraps have are the direct result of GOP acquiescence. Control of the presidency is indeed a massive advantage…but not when the GOP holds it. That’s because the GOP is only interested, like Cruz, in getting wealthy by shilling for corporate America.

    Yes, they have an advantage in a leftist press…which the GOP, including Cruz, has never attempted to lessen by defunding the most-leftist media of all – PBS, NPR et al which daily spew cultural-marxist drivel on my dime. Cruz gives us interesting theater in his occasional “filibusters”, being seen doing something he knows will pass anyway.

    No, Cruz was not in the Senate from 2001-2007. He was in the Bush administration. After working on the legal team helping him win Florida and, the election, Cruz was given a plum position in the Justice Department. That Cruz was a Bushie should raise all kinds of red flags as just another ersatz conservative. He was then given a plum job in Texas (with the Bushes help) where he could wait “his turn” to get a Senate seat.

    I’m not waiting for their “roll over ” strategy as you so colorfully put it. I’ve seen this movie before and know how it ends.

    Trump “vulnerable”? Really? Only in your fantasies. You’ve been saying that since last June haven’t you? His poll numbers just keep going up too, don’t they? He is no more “vulnerable” than Cruz and far more electable. Trump can pull (and there’s evidence that he will) many Reagan Democrats back into voting GOP which is crucial in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania. Cruz can’t because he is a shill for corporate America and protecting America jobs from unfair Chinese competition isn’t in his donors’ interest.

    As for the “bodies”, you’re just dreaming again. If there was something the GOP establishment would be using it already. They’re desperate enough.

    Trump already sold us out? You’re irrational. Why would each and every GOP donor, strategist and hack from Rove to George Will be out for his head if he had “already sold us out”? The leftist press hates him more than anyone else and obviously scares the living crap out of them. Anyone who is despised by the Demoncrap establishment, the GOP establishment and the media already has all the endorsements he needs.

    The fact of the matter is that even if he had indeed sold us out, that’d be nothing each and every GOP candidate – including Cruz – hasn’t already done.

  • fustian24

    Firstly, NPR is such a small fish that they are hardly worth the political capital to kill.

    But how would you propose that Cruz kill it?

    The only chance to get this kind of thing through a Presidential veto is to attach it to a bill that the democrats and the President must sign.

    Except that has never worked for republicans. It DOESN”T WORK!

    It’s not fair, but it’s the fact.

    It does sometimes work for democrats because they own the press, they own the schools, and they own the culture. Why the right has ceded these things and cannot seem to take them back I have no idea, but there it is.

    As for Trump, the mind reels.

    What in the world makes you think he’s even remotely a conservative? Until very recently he’s been in favor of Canadian single payer health insurance, he’s been contributing to democrat campaigns for years, as recently as 2012 he said that Romney lost because he was too tough on illegal immigration.

    By his own admission, he’s been buying politicians for years. We have a name for that “corrupt”.

    The only reason he’s been able to fool so many people is that the enemy press hasn’t turned on him yet.

    But they will.

    On the republican side this election will be largely about the continuing failure of the republican establishment and in the general election it will be about the complete failure of the Obama administration.

    Trump is a symbol for a lot of that. But don’t confuse a symbol for the principles you believe in. All candidates are flawed. It is always a choice of who you believe to be least offensive and you’ve got to be prepared to drop a candidate as soon as it is clear he won’t stand up for the principles you believe in as well as somebody else will.

    You somehow naively believe that business at the scale Trump conducts in New York, New Jersey, and Las Vegas can be conducted without being corrupt. It’s a ridiculous idea, but even if it were so, you have still observed that nobody stands with Trump. The democrats as well as the republicans detest him. By your own admission.

    So.

    How do you expect him to get a single thing done if all the other players want his head on a pike? Nobody in Washington can afford to let some rich guy come in and try to run things. It’s not how it’s done and it won’t be how it’s done.

    The right has been trying to damage him. But they aren’t very good at it and they are basically unarmed without a captive press to do the dirty work.

    And that press has largely been hands off hoping against hope that Trump will be our nominee. They have not gone really ugly yet, and instead give him ludicrous amounts of free air time including an extremely flattering Saturday Night Live appearance.

    If he makes it to the general election, all of a sudden the enemy press will ramp it up. Every night will be further headlines. Trump paid off this or that congressman to build Trump buildings or casinos. Hypocrite Trump hires illegals at all of his constructions sites. Trump raped his former wife. Former girlfriends and women employees will come out of the woodwork and accuse him of things that would make Bill Cosby blush (doesn’t even have to be true). All of Trump’s past statements that contradict what he says now will be constantly trumpeted throughout media and the culture. We’ll find out who he’s had to partner with to be in the casino business (that won’t be pretty).

    It probably won’t even be that effective at first.

    But over the months and months they keep hammering, eventually his support will drain away. Look what they did to Romney and he was probably the cleanest guy we’ve had run for President in a long while. In the end, they made him out to be some kind of dog-abusing, heartless robber baron. They’ll have a field day with Trump.

  • fustian24

    Firstly, NPR is such a small fish that they are hardly worth the political capital to kill.

    But how would you propose that Cruz kill it?

    The only chance to get this kind of thing through a Presidential veto is to attach it to a bill that the democrats and the President must sign.

    Except that has never worked for republicans. It DOESN”T WORK!

    It’s not fair, but it’s the fact.

    It does sometimes work for democrats because they own the press, they own the schools, and they own the culture. Why the right has ceded these things and cannot seem to take them back I have no idea, but there it is.

    As for Trump, the mind reels.

    What in the world makes you think he’s even remotely a conservative? Until very recently he’s been in favor of Canadian single payer health insurance, he’s been contributing to democrat campaigns for years, as recently as 2012 he said that Romney lost because he was too tough on illegal immigration. He strongly believes in eminent domain for gosh sakes.

    By his own admission, he’s been buying politicians for years. We have a name for that and it’s: “corrupt”.

    The only reason he’s been able to fool so many people is that the enemy press hasn’t turned on him yet.

    But they will.

    On the republican side this election will be largely about the continuing failure of the republican establishment and in the general election it will be about the complete failure of the Obama administration.

    Trump is a symbol for a lot of that. But don’t confuse a symbol for the principles you believe in. All candidates are flawed. It is always a choice of who you believe to be least offensive and you’ve got to be prepared to drop a candidate as soon as it is clear he won’t stand up for the principles you believe in as well as somebody else will.

    You somehow naively believe that business at the scale Trump conducts in New York, New Jersey, and Las Vegas can be conducted without being corrupt. It’s a ridiculous idea, but even if it were so, you have still observed that nobody stands with Trump. The democrats as well as the republicans detest him. By your own admission.

    So.

    How do you expect him to get a single thing done if all the other players want his head on a pike? Nobody in Washington can afford to let some rich guy come in and try to run things. It’s not how it’s done and it won’t be how it’s done.

    The right has been trying to damage him. But they aren’t very good at it and they are basically unarmed without a captive press to do the dirty work.

    And that press has largely been hands off hoping against hope that Trump will be our nominee. They have not gone really ugly yet, and instead give him ludicrous amounts of free air time including an extremely flattering Saturday Night Live appearance.

    If he makes it to the general election, all of a sudden the enemy press will ramp it up. Every night will be further headlines. Trump paid off this or that congressman to build Trump buildings or casinos. Hypocrite Trump hires illegals at all of his constructions sites. Trump raped his former wife. Former girlfriends and women employees will come out of the woodwork and accuse him of things that would make Bill Cosby blush (doesn’t even have to be true). All of Trump’s past statements that contradict what he says now will be constantly trumpeted throughout media and the culture. We’ll find out who he’s had to partner with to be in the casino business (that won’t be pretty).

    It probably won’t even be that effective at first.

    But over the months and months they keep hammering, eventually his support will drain away. Look what they did to Romney and he was probably the cleanest guy we’ve had run for President in a long while. In the end, they made him out to be some kind of dog-abusing, heartless robber baron. They’ll have a field day with Trump.

  • Cruz is a Career Politician that lies.. 1st off, why seal his records? 2nd..why not just goto court and quit looking like an Obama..and 3rd, Cruz is the North American Union, 4th he is owned and has flipflopped ever since getting puppet strings..and everyone knows, the people come last to puppets.. Cruz is deceiving everyone and if he does by some chance gets nominated, Hillary will spend Millions unsealing his records and proving he is a fraud.. everyone was told, Trump is the Trojan Horse for Hillary.. you best think twice about where that info came from.. straight from the establishment.. Cruz is Hillary’s ticket into the White house

  • Cruz is a Career Politician that lies.. 1st off, why seal his records? 2nd..why not just goto court and quit looking like an Obama..and 3rd, Cruz is the North American Union, 4th he is owned and has flipflopped ever since getting puppet strings..and everyone knows, the people come last to puppets.. Cruz is deceiving everyone and if he does by some chance gets nominated, Hillary will spend Millions unsealing his records and proving he is a fraud.. everyone was told, Trump is the Trojan Horse for Hillary.. you best think twice about where that info came from.. straight from the establishment.. Cruz is Hillary’s ticket into the White house

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