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Jan 24 2016

The Fork in the Road: Cruz Versus Trump

For a while Cruz and Trump supporters could travel together, because we seemed to be going in the same general direction. But now we have come to a fork in the road.

Ted Cruz has a long record of fighting hard for conservative principles, not just in the media but on the actual Beltway battlefield, earning the hysterical hatred of the GOP establishment. Participating in Glenn Beck’s irritating border stunt with the teddy bears in a misguided attempt to highlight Obama’s lawlessness proves that no one is perfect, but does not outweigh an entire career as a principled conservative. He has earned his A rating from Conservative Review.

Donald Trump is a life-long liberal who is currently running as a national socialist — defined as someone who wraps coercive corporatist/mercantilist/socialist economic policy in nationalistic rhetoric. History buffs will recall that this political approach also produced enthusiastic crowds when it was applied in central Europe in the 1930s, but did not turn out well.

Trump is not a conservative in any meaningful sense. He owes virtually all of his support to cynically duping an angry mob into believing that he would restore an earlier version of America by throwing out foreigners and sealing off the country. But only last June, Trump supported amnesty for illegal aliens, and even now he supports touchback amnesty; it is highly likely that he will drop the current quasi-hardliner pose once it has served its purpose. On other issues, he does not even pretend that he is not still a progressive. For example, he recently denounced Antonin Scalia for not believing that whites should be systematically discriminated against through Affirmative Action. He enthusiastically embraces the obscene Kelo ruling, which grants government the power to seize private property on behalf of crony capitalists like himself. He wants to raise taxes even higher. His anti-terror policy features killing the relatives of suspected terrorists. No one expects him to reduce the size or scope of Big Government.

America was founded on principles that were at the time considered liberal but that are now called conservative. The purpose of this site is to defend those principles by exposing the progressive statists who oppose them. Donald Trump is a particularly dangerous progressive because he attacks the conservative cause from within, rather than from without like Obama and Bernie Sanders. He is no less subject to exposure than any other moonbat.

I’ve taken heat for this, with Trump supporters denouncing me as a phony conservative, a Jew (indicating where some of these people are coming from), George Will in disguise, et cetera. I’ve even been accused of being paid off. On the contrary, since almost all of the site’s revenue comes from advertising, which is driven by traffic, alienating Trump supporters is likely to cost me a pretty penny. It’s worth it. I haven’t busted my tail every single day for the past 11+ years to produce this site for the paltry income. I’m doing this because America and its core values of individual liberty, property rights, personal responsibility, and limited government are worth defending against moonbats and charlatans.

  • Lentenlands

    Dave, I appreciate your principled stand and your insight.

  • SR

    Dave, well I for one support Cruz first, Trump second. We’ll just have to see who will be nominated. Hillary will be 4 to 8 more years of Obama and his policies.

  • DJ

    No matter how this election shakes out, Monnbattery will still be the BEST site WRT making fun of liberals and highlighting just how insane they really are. Hence I seriously doubt the traffic on site will be affected in any negative way.
    Keep up the great work. It’s much appreciated by many!

  • SR

    Moonbattery is one of my favorite sites, keep up the good work.

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  • IslandLifer

    I’ve been coming here for years and do so because there’s good debate without having to worry about getting the boot. Dave has always been fair and patient (Lao comes to mind). We may not see eye to eye on who should get the nomination but I guarantee we all agree either one is better than 4 more years of the dark side. I’ll back which ever one triumphs. I’ve still have my MB shirt and will continue supporting/advertising this site. The road may fork but eventually will end up the same road. Cheers.

  • StotheOB

    Extremely well said, and perfectly on point.

    That said, as Trump himself openly states, his supporters are so dumb they will pledge blind devotion regardless what he does. He is their new infallible prophet.

    Lastly, regarding traffic – I myself had stopped coming here (as well as a couple other sites) solely because of articles which I viewed as giving Trump a pass. Now openly pushing reality in the face of the Cult of Trump, I have put the site back on my rounds. What you may lose by telling the truth hopefully will be at least partially regained by people like myself.

  • Lockstein13

    “Ted Cruz has a long record of fighting hard
    for conservative principles,”

    It’s EASY to appear “noble” when you know
    from the outset that your “just for show” efforts
    have no chance of succeeding.

    ENOUGH of the “principled” LOSERS already!

  • MicahStone

    Cruz – in many, many, many ways…

  • Nobama

    Agreed! And everyone should support Dave regardless which candidate he supports. And be sure to click on an ad or two everytime you visit this site. I know I do. And never forget who the real enemy is.

  • StotheOB

    Stopping something from taking place is winning… he has stopped Amnesty and Gun Control, among other things.

    But sure, support the guy who supports whatever he personally feels is popular that specific week; going from such extremes as pushing Socialised Medicine to claiming he is completely against it (but ironically still saying “Government needs to take care of everyone. We’ll have a system”) – I’m sure thats the way you will really get what you seem to think you want

  • MicahStone

    Trump = the disguise he uses to dupe Republicans and conservatives is even WORSE…

  • Lockstein13

    I support Trump first and WILL – on the outside wildcard chance that he gets the nomination – support Cruz in the general.

    BUT: don’t you get any sort of suspicious feeling because, as of only 4-6 (?) weeks ago, there was a Blitzkrieg/tidalwave of anti-Trump stuff coming FROM THE RIGHT…A) all at the same time and B) virtually all saying exactly the same thing?

    I suspect DIVIDE AND CONQUER going on: the GOPe gets enough dissonance between the Trump and Cruz camps that the GOPe can “broker” the Convention and thereby hand the nomination to “!Jeb!” ?!?

  • Lockstein13

    I really SAVOR these last, few weeks of you slimy Cruz supporters (not all Cruz supporters, many are decent and thoughtful) breathing your last, desperate venom-filled breaths before Cruz throws in the towel at the Trump landslide.

    I only hope you join SR and me (SEE HIS POST BELOW) in supporting the victor of the two (I doubt either of us would vote for !Jeb! BWAHAHA!) when the time comes.

  • StotheOB

    Trump supporters dont seem to get it, but everyone is trying to push up Trump so he can be the one to take out Cruz, then Trump can be brought down overnight if anyone really tried to do so. That allows the establishment choice to slide right up to the top (hence them all fighting with eachother to be that one person who gets to be the lucky one)

    Internals show Trumps support is not what the polls indicate, and instead the unbelievably extreme negativities on favorability (even worse than Hillary) are a better indication of what to expect. The feeling is a bunch of people, including Dems, are saying Trump as a joke and to cause disruptions. Not a person on the planet seems to really believe Trump has any shot in he!! of winning the actual election. This is especially the case when you factor how easy he would be to collapse if anyone decided to get dirty enough to do it.

    Trump isnt going to be the nomination, and his supporters are instead just being played by both Trump to boost his ego and the Establishment in an effort to stop Trump

  • IslandLifer

    If you leave I won’t miss you.

  • StotheOB

    Youre being played like a chump, but youre so blindly devoted to your false prophet you cant even see it. Its very sad.

    But go ahead, do what the establishment wants you to do – try to bring down Cruz for them so they can destroy all of Trumps credibility and allow their chosen one to be the nomination.

  • StotheOB


  • coyote

    Dave- your analysis of Mr. Trump is probably correct. It may true (as others have written) that America is fascist at it’s heart. The reference to 30s facism not turning out so well seems unfortunate. Many internet WNs today have come to believe that nearly everything we learned about that era, der Fuhrer, etc is all a bunch of lies; and that the WWII was deliberate on the part of international Jewry. It may be even true that Hitler was created for the purpose of exterminating Germans, and white europeans as a race after the war was (inevitably) won. It is too late for limited government: this country will break into separate pieces before the government scales back; it is already a tyranny of “social justice” madness. I would rather a tyranny of fascist Christian values than secular nihilism descending into the goyim slavery and the death of our race. Cruz may have the right “conservative values” but many feel he is so hated he will not be able to accomplish anything. Trump will do as he has been doing, taking polls, and riding the tiger. And if he betrays the populist throngs, even better. It is time for the whole thing to go down, anyway. Believing anyone can change the course of empire is true moonbattery.

  • IslandLifer

    Your criticism of Trump supporters make you sound like a rabid dog. I heard right poop scoop is the home you seek. Your hypocrisy smells of BS and you ought to look in the mirror to make sure you’re not playing yourself.

  • IslandLifer

    You’ve slipped and bathed in hogwash again! Rinse yourself heathen.

  • StotheOB

    Sure, Skippy, whatever ya say…

  • tom

    Trump or bust. I don’t care if I am a phony conservative, I don’t care if I am a racist fascist. I want America to be great again.

  • IslandLifer

    I’m with ya there!

  • StotheOB

    The Establishment and Trump both have one goal atm – destroy Cruz

    The Establishment knows Trump will be about as respected as Charlie Sheen in 4 months. They are using him as a tool to keep a real reformer from getting the nod. Trump is their chump

    Trump is just a narcissist who for 40+ years was willing to say and do absolutely anything he could think of to try to gain attention and power. Hes just doing what hes always done – con chumps

    You’ll see soon enough how it plays out

  • Lou Hodges

    Wow. Now I know why moonbattery trails in popularity. Trump is a real mean guy. If you wNt to get rid of a mean guy, get a real mean guy.

  • FreedomFan

    Wow this is a great, great article. You have amazing insight into the bizarre Trump phenomenon.

  • I cannot take seriously anyone who calls Trump a national socialist. That si very ugly and frankly a slap in the face to those who suffered under REAL national socialists.

    It is such hyperbolic nonsense, frankly you remind me of hysterical libs.

  • Hans Pfall

    Jackie Kennedy Onasis was a gold-digger and a whore (in the dictionary definition of the word). She lived with an adulterer and then married grandpa for money. If you want to compare Cruz to that, be my guest.

  • IslandLifer

    How does someone with his level of success make it there by being “played as a chump” or “used like a tool”? C’mon man, serious? All of a sudden he’s the establishment? I’ve heard enough wacky theories from you Cruzettes to not even begin to take you serious. Forever NR was the ‘establishment’ and they’ve declared war on him. Mark Levin now sides with them? Didn’t he have an obligation to his audience to let them know about his conflict of interest? Watch out for the purists! They’ll get you nowhere except for where they want you. That! is being played like a chump. Trump doesn’t want donations, he only asks for your vote. Not bought and paid for by lobbyists. Think if you can.

  • FreedomFan

    “national socialist — defined as someone who wraps coercive corporatist/mercantilist/socialist economic policy in nationalistic rhetoric”

    Seems to fit.

  • Hans Pfall

    That’s it, Lock…that’s the new meme (EXACTLY the tactic that progressives use). We’re Chumps for Trump, too stupid to see that he’s a Trojan Horse, just FULL of nightmares waiting to be unleashed on the unsuspecting, unwashed masses.

  • IslandLifer

    No it doesn’t, but maybe in your world.

  • IslandLifer


  • 1432fpchero

    Dave you have a great site and its a daily must read. While entitled to opine on what ever you choose, i think you swung and missed here. Fortunately for you, there is so much other great stuff here, that taking a “personal anti-Trump” stand is not really a risk. As has been noted in other places the GOP have been shooting themselves in the face for 2 decades, it was the Tea Party that won them the house and the Senate, not “Conventional GOP” braintrusts.

    So this leaves us Trump, and he plays an interesting and dangerous game. He needs to be President like he needs a bad case of shingles. But he wants the job, good for him. If he gets elected, and it looks like he will, he better deliver or his life as a public figure and business person is over, and personally i think he knows it.

    That is why I think he will be the next, and the best President since Truman

  • Hans Pfall

    We sure will see how it goes.

    As to your points:

    Of COURSE he’s trying to bruise Cruz. They’re both running for the SAME DAMN OFFICE. What’s he supposed to do, donate to the Cruz campaign?

    Yes Trump is a narcissist and power freak. You don’t make 10 billion being Mother Theresa. I don’t for one minute think he’ll be a consistent conservative, but I do think he’ll get us back on track, screw us on a few things and overall be a net plus AND DESTROY THE DEM AND REPUB ESTABLISHMENT.

    That’ll do for me. If Trump screws us, fine…we vote him out in four and put in someone else. INFINITELY better than playing it safe and getting shafted yet AGAIN with another Romney or McLoser.

  • Hans Pfall

    Dave IS fair about allowing dissent, and I appreciate that. I am VERY disappointed at his anti-Trump crusade, mainly because it’s not “Look folks, Cruz is your guy”, it’s more “If you support Trump you’re a sucker and an idiot”.


    We’re not.

  • Hans Pfall

    I’ll agree with that if Dave agrees to SUPPORT a candidate and NOT to call a good percentage of his readers morons or dupes. How’s that?

  • Hans Pfall

    Bingo on all points.

  • SR

    Yes I did notice and if Jeb gets nominated we are screwed. I’ll never vote GOP Again!

  • FreedomFan

    A Trump victory would spell the end of the Republican party–and possibly the US itself (can you imagine putting this thin-skinned, megalomaniac in charge of the red button?). Fortunately Trump has the highest negatives of any candidate, and is unelectable. Hopefully it will be Rubio or Cruz.

  • DJ
  • Xavier

    I have been denounced on other blogs for saying much the same thing, Dave, though less eloquently. Trump is not the Conservative savior.

    To be fair, none of the candidates passes my sniff test but everything in life is a compromise.

  • Xavier

    I’m really surprised at the vitriol here.

  • Hans Pfall


    So…we should say “thank you”?

  • FreedomFan

    Hillary will thank you, Trumpkins.

  • Hans Pfall

    LOL, wanna bet?

  • DJ

    Be careful there Xavier; you’re sounding an awful lot like Jebbie.
    Jebbie: “I don’t like the tone of the campaign.” He’s talking about Trump, of course.

  • Donna M

    …just sayin’!
    Let’s get the in fighting over with all ready!!!
    I’m not taking my eyes off that stinking cesspool of scummy, toxic waste, killary,
    Not even for a second!!!
    REMEMBER, Dear friends, where the “real” foul stench lies!
    Those reprobate PROGLADITES, are stacking the election, yet again!!!

  • Donna M


  • Xavier

    They like us to fight and get so pissed off we won’t vote. Like in ’12. Remember how that turned out?

  • Hans Pfall

    I disagree…or maybe not. I get the distinct feeling that the “TRUMP MUST GO, HE’S THE WORST THING SINCE XXXXX” stuff is NOT coming from concerned conservatives (for the most part), but is part of the Dem/RINO plan: sink ANYONE that could beat Hillary, make sure the GOP has a brokered convention, get ¡JEB! nominated as planned, and BINGO! Madam President.

    This is ALL part of keeping an eye on Hillary and the Dems.


  • FreedomFan

    No, look at the match-ups. Rubio does best against Hilldebeast. That’s why Hillary fears him most. Youth & honesty vs Age & corruption.

  • Hans Pfall

    God, give me a break!

    (a) Those polls are B.S.
    (b) Hillary (or Bernie or Biden for that matter) would make mince meat out of Rubio.
    (c) Rubio is a party hack. He’s Paul Ryan with chili sauce.

    Yeah, ol’ Marco Pollo has Granny shaking in her support hose.

  • Xavier

    I don’t think I’ve ever heard a single word he’s said. Jeb! is Hillary with a penis (presumably) so he’s the enemy.

  • Donna M

    I’ll save my “vitriol” for a bigger, more appropriately worthy target…
    That offensive, lyin’, murdering, criminal, livin’ SOOO…large, she declares, she boasts, that she is ABOVE AND BEYOND THE REACH OF CONSTITUTIONAL LAW!!!
    I present to you the true Queen of The Pestilent, Dung Heap, landscape!
    None other than a Senator, Secretary of State and previous, first lady…
    Empress Killary…
    …hey killary,
    Nothin’ seems changed much, for the UNDERCLASS!
    Know what I mean?

  • FreedomFan

    Trump is spectacularly unpopular with the general election voter. But don’t let that stop your fantasy. Carry on.

  • Hans Pfall

    My fantasy! LOL!

    Well, you just hang in there. If the GOP gets it’s wish, Trump will be out, and we’ll get a TRUE winner. Hand picked by the same cabal that gave us McLoser and McRomney.

    Now THERE is a sure bet!

  • Donna M

    I’m not going to get caught up with the nonsense!

  • Hans Pfall

    A penis, but no testicles. Let’s be specific!

  • FreedomFan

    Trump is a RINO. If you look up the dictionary definition of RINO, it has a picture of Trump.

  • Xavier

    A voice of sanity. Thank you, Donna.

  • Hans Pfall

    Sure thing. Yessir. You’re right. I’m now all in for McRubio. Then when he fades, I’ll just move right on to ¡JEB!

    Whew! I’m sure glad I finally saw the light on that RINO Trump!

  • ramrodd

    The Barnhardt Axiom.

    You realize this applies every bit as strongly to Trump too, right? Tell me
    you are not so stupid as to believe for one second that Trump would actually do
    ANY of the things he is talking about. He’s just smart enough to know what y’all
    want to hear, and is saying it. You know how I know that Trump will never
    follow through on anything he is saying?


    Remember, the only thing that actually WANTS to be in a cesspit is a PIECE OF

  • ramrodd

    Many believe that there is NO POLITICAL SOLUTION…..

  • FreedomFan

    Trump needs a Beer Hall Putsch.

  • dad29

    You’re right., Trump is a blowhard with the same “I Rule” credo as Obama.

  • retire05

    Really? Then just take a look at the establishment RINOs that are coming out for Trump. Guess that $60,000.00 Trump donated to Mitch McConnell and McConnell’s Karl Rove created PAC, designed to defeat a true conservative, Matt Bevin, paid off like a slot machine in Trump’s now bankrupt casino.

  • S_O_T_A

    Yes, and let’s see the general election poll, where Trump is only possibly bested (worsted?) by Bush as the most unelectable of all of them.

    What is the point of supporting someone who’s principles are virtually indistinguishable from Hillary and would almost guaranteed lose to her anyway?

  • S_O_T_A

    Trump does not have the numbers amongst the general population. His ratings are hideous. It’s that bad, that if O’Malley was running against him as the Dem, he would still lose.

  • retire05

    Why don’t you wander on over to and check out who Trump donated to? Guess you have no problem with him donating to Anthony Weiner, pervert. And don’t try to push the bull that he was funding Democrats because it was “the art of the deal.”
    Trumps had more positions on the issues than a Las Vegas hooker. And his bashing of anyone/anything that doesn’t bow before him has lost it luster.
    The left fell for the shiny object when it elected Obama. Seems the right is no smarter than they were. Trump is nothing more than a shiny object.

  • DJ

    You’re deluded, Trump is the exact opposite of Hillary on immigration.
    Look, Trump hasn’t turned his guns on the wicked witch yet. When he does, Hillary will be toast. Count on it.

  • S_O_T_A

    Agreed. From the years of reading moonbattery, I think Dave is being utterly consistent here. Dave doesn’t worship at the throne of personality, which too many seem to do. The comment Trump made was astonishing – not only was it blatantly saying “You’re all stupid!”, they actually laughed and applauded!

    I feel like asking them, if Trump really did shoot someone on 5th avenue, would they still support him? At the very least, you’d think they’d realise it’s not funny, it’s just dumb and insulting. If any other of the candidates had said something like that, the next thing you would’ve heard from their supporters would’ve been crickets.

  • S_O_T_A

    After that 5th Avenue comment and the laughter it got, I’d have to disagree. Do you think any other candidate would’ve been stupid enough to have insulted his own supporters – and gotten a positive reaction? I don’t think even Jeb’s supporters would’ve been impressed.

  • Hans Pfall

    HEY EVERYONE! Turns out FreedomFan is actually GLENN BECK!

  • Hans Pfall

    May I suggest you remover yourself and your custom and go someplace you’d find more suitable?

    There’s a plane leaving every hour…

  • FreedomFan

    Nice name ‘Hans’…

  • Xavier

    Why are you being such an asshole tonight?

  • Hans Pfall

    …and you’re nothing more than a shill. I’ll stick with the object.

  • DJ

    millions of up votes for Hans tonight.

  • Hans Pfall

    Legit or not, this makes the case pretty damn well. An open letter to
    Mark Levin (and could be to many here as well). Sorry if the links and
    photos didn’t come out. To see it in full, go here:

    Dear Mr. Levin,

    My name is Lauren Stephens. I’ve been
    involved in politics for a long time – mostly just as a pissed off
    American, but I also own a campaign services company. I do not work for
    any of the Presidential Campaigns. I am not coordinated with any of
    them. I have not spoken to any of them. I am not being paid by anyone
    for this. I am getting absolutely nothing for writing this. I am not
    seeking publicity and have turned down all media requests. My name is
    attached to this so people will understand this isn’t some back door hit
    piece. I am a real person.

    Mr. Levin, for years, I have had nothing
    but the utmost respect for you. Your word has always been your bond. If
    you doubt my sincerity, you can ask a former co-worker of yours
    from the Reagan Administration, Dixie Cassell. You could ask a real
    patriot, C Steven Tucker, from the Chicago area. You could ask a lot of
    people. They know me.

    For years, you have been a champion of
    We The People, and maybe today, you still believe that you are. But at
    this point, I beg to differ. Not because I want to, but because I
    believe I have a little bit more inside information than you have on
    certain issues surrounding the Presidential race. And the GOP.

    I hope you will keep in mind, my respect
    and admiration for you, before you respond – IF you respond. Although I
    am angry, I come to you without malice. I am here simply because I know
    of no other way to get this message to you.

    A little background:

    I lived in Wisconsin during the Reince
    Priebus reign of terror when he was the State GOP Chairman. I’ll bet not
    a lot of people know about his former life. Ask Former Congressman Mark
    Neumann, or any of the other Gubernatorial candidates, what happened
    when they dared to run against “The Chosen One”, Scott Walker, for
    Governor in 2010. Ask Michael Steele what happened when Reince Priebus
    decided he wanted Steele’s RNC Chairmanship. You can also ask Mark
    Willis the same thing, from 2013.

    For that matter, you can also ask Rick
    Santorum, who decisively had the bulk of the primary support for the
    Presidential primary in 2012 in Wisconsin. Sorry Rick, you were in the
    way of the deal between Mitt Romney and Reince Priebus – who was
    desperate and willing to do ANYTHING to make sure that Wisconsin’s
    Golden Boy, Paul Ryan, was the Vice Presidential pick. But that could
    not happen unless Romney was the nominee. And I think we can all agree,
    Romney – as fine of a man as he is – was by far no one’s favorite.
    Everyone who was anyone in Wisconsin is well aware that there was a deal
    made with Romney which would guarantee him the nomination if Reince
    could get a Wisconsinite in the VP slot. Since they had already planned
    to run Walker for President, it could not be him.

    the way, Scott Walker, Reince Priebus and Paul Ryan have all been best
    buds for years. They all hail from Southeast Wisconsin. That alone
    speaks volumes, wouldn’t you say?


    Reince Priebus is a wannabe Lee Atwater. Remember the Southern Strategy?

    Well, welcome to the Wisconsin Strategy. Priebus really makes me miss Atwater.

    I had Paul Ryan’s number way before you
    did Mr. Levin. Needless to say, I was happy when you finally realized
    what a fraud he really is. I cannot think of any other person who has
    done more damage to the GOP and Conservative values than him.

    the way, there is an OFFICIAL Paul Ryan primary effort and you can find
    their Facebook page here. That is not my page, nor am I an admin.

    As far as the Wisconsin Strategy,
    You could also ask my dear, sweet friend Jeanne Tarantino what happened
    to her when she ran for an Assembly seat in Wisconsin recently. And let
    me tell you, Jeanne is the most ethical, decent, caring, SMART,
    beautiful and faithful person I have ever had the honor of knowing. At
    one time, the GOP felt the same way. She worked in Walker’s
    administration. She was also the woman who single-handedly got Lt
    Governor Rebecca Kleefish elected.

    But, when you are going up against one
    of the establishment – there will be hell to pay. And there was. Mostly
    led by Wisconsin’s so-called Conservative media. Conservative as in
    RINO, not Conservative as in you and I. Do you want to guess who gives
    them their rules of engagement?

    That’s just how the GOP Cartel rolls.

    Fast forward to 2015: Cruz was the first
    out of the gate and I was on board right away. Who wouldn’t be, right?
    He talks the talk, he says what we all want to hear. But… what did I
    really KNOW about him? What did anyone really KNOW about him? Did anyone
    bother to do a little deeper digging?

    Apparently not, because if they had, and if you had, you would know what I know.

    But before I get to all that…

    Here is what I can say: Admittedly, I
    have been a huge fan of Trump’s since the 80’s (remember the Reagan
    days?!), when I bought “Art of the Deal”.

    Over the years, I have watched him. I
    have read many of his books. I have seen him on TV. I have seen him in
    Congressional hearings. I have seen his commercials. I have seen him on
    the front page of the Enquirer (Marla Maples). I have seen the good and
    the bad of Donald Trump.

    One thing I know for certain and without
    any reservation whatsoever – Mr. Trump LOVES this country, and dare I
    say, he is IN LOVE with this country. And, he has always said that he
    loves the working man, and it is obvious from what we are seeing now,
    that love goes both ways.

    When Mr. Trump says he wants to
    “Make America Great Again” I believe him. I believe him with everything
    in me. As do millions of other folks. I believe with the right people
    on board with him, this nation will prosper like never before. Trump is
    wise to seek the counsel of others. It is something he has done for
    decades. I don’t recall a time when Senator Cruz ever did any such

    Is it possible that Trump is not like
    you and I? Most definitely. However, I welcome his newer and more
    conservative positions than he has held in the past. We should always
    welcome this from anyone. Just as we did from former Democrat Ronald
    Reagan, and yes, just as we did from former Democrat Mitt Romney.

    Mr. Trump has been a VERY, VERY generous
    donor to the GOP, the RNC, the RNCC, and most every other Republican
    committee in this country. I did the research. And this isn’t new. He
    has been a major donor to GOP causes since at least the 80’s. And when I
    say donate, I mean he has given hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    Let’s all just click right here and take a look, shall we?

    That search is just a search by name and
    the word “Republican” it is not very detailed, but still, it PROVES
    without a doubt that he isn’t new around here.

    Mr. Trump’s generosity, kindness and
    loyalty to the GOP didn’t end there. He has been a major supporter of
    MANY Republican candidates. You may like to cherry pick those donations a
    little and make it sound like he has only donated to Mitch McConnell,
    but the truth is, he has donated to MANY many wonderful incumbents and
    Let’s see what he donated in the 2014 election cycle, shall we? Did he
    donate to RINOs too? Sure. But isn’t it you who always tells us that in
    the end, a RINO is better than a Democrat?

    Make no mistake about it: If not
    for the generosity of Mr. Trump, not only would the GOP not be who they
    are today, but there would be MANY Republicans who would have never
    been elected at all. Imagine that.

    I do not suggest that this should buy
    him any favors. No. Not at all. My point is, the GOP and MANY
    Republicans are WELL AWARE that Trump has been on our side for a long
    time, and yet, they knowingly and fraudulently choose to perpetuate
    these lies. The lies that he just joined the party. The lies that he
    isn’t Conservative. Lie after lie after lie.

    I would like everyone who is reading this to please watch this video of Donald Trump,
    from 1988… at the GOP convention. After watching that, you will know
    that Trump is not a new to the party. You will know you have been lied
    to. Over and over again.

    Now, before I get to the Cruz thing
    (which is going to be really bad!), there is something that has been
    bugging the shit out of me…

    Why do I keep hearing about this ethanol thing? Why?

    Do I favor subsidies? Hell no! Am I an ethanol fan? No!

    I do not believe the general public understands that ethanol has been
    around for a very long time and has numerous uses, which can be read
    about here.

    Mr. Levin – it is absurd to go to Iowa, a
    state that obviously depends on the industry (thanks to Congress), an
    industry that employs what – 50,000 people supposedly – and announce,
    “The GOP says I am a jerk unless I come here and say we must get rid of
    ethanol”! I mean, who DOES that? Someone who is pandering to the GOP
    without any real consideration of the immediate consequences.

    Does the President of the United States
    of America have the constitutional authority to end all subsidies?
    Without a pen and a phone of course. You know damn good and well that
    there is not one sitting Congressman who is going to allow that to

    So, Trump is “pandering” to Iowa, while
    Cruz is “pandering” to someone more evil, the GOP. Please tell us
    Senator Cruz, just how many jobs have you created in your entire life?
    Campaign staff not included.

    I admit, I believe Mr. Trump is not on
    the right side of this issue, but I also believe it is possible that he
    clearly doesn’t understand why that is. And that is okay, he can be
    educated. He is a reasonable and intelligent man. I believe that in his
    heart of hearts, he just wants Iowa to prosper. After all, if you take
    away all those “subsidized” jobs, we will end up subsidizing those folks
    in the welfare system.

    In the end, no one has the balls to eliminate ethanol subsidies, and we must blame Congress for that.

    Now, what is so ridiculous here is that all this subsidy bashing seems to be limited to ethanol for some reason! Why?

    Do we expect our candidates to go to
    Wisconsin and say “I am here to take away dairy and farms because you
    are subsidized”! How absurd would that be? I don’t hear anyone railing
    on and on about that. Why not?

    Senator Cruz sure is taking in a lot of
    money from “big oil”, so I am going to challenge him to get his butt
    down to Texas as soon as possible and proclaim to all those donors that
    he will be immediately working to END ALL OIL SUBSIDIES (which are far
    bigger than ethanol subsidies). Mr. Cruz, please, show us what a real
    conservative you are – tell your donors you are going to cut them off if
    they elect you. By an Executive Order if need be. If you are not
    willing to do that, then you are a hypocrite and by your own standards,
    not a real Conservative.

    [I have had received complaints
    about my use of the word subsidies in relation to “big oil”. Subsidies
    are subsidies whether or not they are in the form of a government

    The sad fact is, nearly everyone and
    every thing is subsidized. And we are just going to have to give
    Congress the blame for this because, as you know, they are the ones with
    the power of the purse.

    Now, I am going to tell you, and anyone else reading this, why I dropped my support of Senator Cruz.

    First of all, the way I see it, Mr.
    Trump was truly kind to Cruz. I believe the bromance was genuine, on Mr.
    Trump’s behalf. So let us not forget it was Cruz who fired the first
    shot by speaking so horribly of Trump in the undercover audio, which was
    later released to the public. It proved, without a doubt, that Cruz saw
    Trump as nothing more than another vehicle to take him where he wanted
    to go. You can click here to hear it.

    Just from that, we learned how disingenuous and manipulative Senator Cruz really is. He is no victim here.

    Having said that, I believe someone in
    the establishment purposely set that up. I know they wanted those two to
    fight so it would clear the field for their chosen one, Marco Rubio.
    Sadly, Cruz fell for it. He just couldn’t help himself.

    I will not address the birther issue,
    mainly because it isn’t valid, and if we really wanted to talk about
    birthers, we MUST look to Cruz’s own father. He is the most egregious
    birther I have ever seen. Let’s not go there.

    When I first heard about the campaign
    finance issue, where Cruz claimed that he simply “forgot” to report
    those loans, I knew it wasn’t true because it was impossible. It is
    impossible because Cruz is a very smart man. He also has a legal and
    compliance team. He also has a treasurer. Ted Cruz lied to the American
    people. And I am very sorry that some people still refuse to accept

    I immediately started doing my own
    research. What I found was pretty unsettling Mr. Levin. I believe if you
    happen to be reading this, you will agree that the prima facie evidence
    is strong. I have also verified this with the Enforcement Division of
    the Federal Election Commission (FEC).

    Let us all remember what Ted Cruz and
    his wife first told us when they said they cashed out everything they
    had. Was there any mention of a bank loan?

    If you go to this story from 2013,
    you will see that not only was he on the record as making that claim
    (as he has made numerous times before), but there is also an audio clip
    of them (on the left side of the page).

    “Ted Cruz recalled saying to his wife in
    the weeks before his Senate primary, when he was still behind in the
    polls, “Sweetheart, I’d like us to liquidate our entire net worth,
    liquid net worth, and put it into the campaign.”

    astonished me, then and now, was Heidi within 60 seconds said,
    ‘Absolutely,’ with no hesitation,” said Mr. Cruz, who invested about
    $1.2 million — “which is all we had saved,” he added — into his

    Ironically, even Mrs. Cruz seemed
    uncomfortable with such a story, as she tried on several occasions to
    change it. The only reason to even bring this up on the campaign trail
    was to make people believe that not only did they have the money, but
    that they were so confident of Cruz, that they were willing to risk it
    all! This is one of the best fundraising strategies there is. And his
    campaign finance reports indicate that it worked.

    Now, about the “forgotten” loans. Were they really forgotten? No. Here they are:

    As you can see, he reported loans. He
    reported them back then. He reported them on time. So that Sir, is
    another lie that he continues to tell to this day. He didn’t forget
    anything. What he did was lie to the FEC, claiming they were personal
    loans from his personal money. He had no choice. That is what he told
    the public he did. Additionally, he never filed ANY loan documentation,
    which is a requirement no matter WHAT the loan source is.

    Now, he wants us to believe that he is
    “forgetful”? That his legal and compliance team are inept? That his
    Treasurer might be crooked? INCONCEIVABLE!

    If this is the case, then he has NO business seeking the Presidency of the United States.

    In fact, the more I think about it, the
    more ridiculous and irresponsible it is for someone to take a loan
    for over a million dollars just to run for office that pays less than
    $200,000.00 a year. Is this part of our new conservative principles?
    Nah, it is just politics and it is acceptable if Cruz does it, but no
    one else.

    By the way, the public needs to
    understand that the money was paid back, however, it was paid for with
    campaign donations, not his own personal money. The Cruz’s were out

    Later on, his Senate campaign
    transferred a LOT of Senate campaign funds to his Presidential campaign
    account. There is no presumption that just because someone donates
    money to you for one office, means that they support you to run for a
    different office. I think Sarah Palin can back me up on this one. See
    this here?

    In addition to that, I allege Ted Cruz
    violated other campaign finance laws, such as the ones that pertain to
    declaring a candidacy and filing appropriate documents when you plan to
    run for office. We require candidates to do this because we deserve

    When you look thru Cruz’s Senate
    campaign account, you will see that, at least since December 2014, Ted
    Cruz started spending a LOT of money in preparation of his Presidential
    run. He spent a lot of money in “early states”. He certainly exceeded
    the $5,000.00 threshold reporting requirement. He had 15 days to report.
    He waited at least THREE months. Although he started spending at least
    by December 2014 (and probably a lot earlier), he did not file his
    candidacy until March 23, 2015.

    According to the FEC (VIA a phone conversation), these violations are:

    11 CFR 100.72

    11 CFR 110.3C5 (Permissible Transfers)

    11 CFR 110.8D2 (2) No
    funds, goods, or services, including loans and loan guarantees, may be
    transferred between or used by the separate campaigns, except as
    provided in 11 CFR 110.3(c)(5)

    11 CFR 100.3

    There is also another issue where the very forgetful Senator Cruz forgot to disclose another
    one of his financial connections. It would appear, that Senator Cruz
    believes that he is above the law and that the laws do not apply to him.

    The issues that I discovered with Ted
    Cruz run way deeper than this. While you and others continue to slam
    Trump for donations to RINOs, Ted Cruz has been a major donor to RINOs
    himself. We certainly don’t hear about that, now do we?

    Ted Cruz’s Leadership PAC, the Jobs,
    Growth and Freedom Fund, which he is directly in control of, has been
    handing out RINO money since he took office. For this cycle though,
    despite the fact that he has plenty of money in it, the only money he
    has been handing out is to… you guessed it – Iowa lawmakers. Click here for that. No pandering to see here folks! Move along!

    Let’s take a look and see whose palms he was greasing in the 2014 election cycle shall we? Click here to see the list.

    Hmmm, is that John Cornyn’s name I see
    on that list? Joni Ernst? Dan Sullivan? Yep. And once again, he greased
    every Republican palm in Iowa, didn’t he. That is what career
    politicians do.

    Do I need to remind people that for the
    majority of his adult life, Ted Cruz has had one government or political
    job after another?

    The deeper I dig, the more I don’t like.

    Although Ted Cruz runs on a social
    conservative, evangelical platform, this is yet another deception. When
    Ted Cruz had the opportunity, THE opportunity, to nip gay marriage in
    the bud – did he? Nope, he turned and walked away. And what he chose NOT
    to fight for, is the exact case that led directly to gay marriage. You
    read more about Lawrence vs Texas right here. You can read Supreme
    Court Justice Scalia’s response, right here. It sums it all up.

    I am very disappointed by all the people
    who now own Ted Cruz, including his Super PACs. From the get-go, Donald
    Trump made it clear to others that he was adamantly opposed to Super
    PACs, and in fact, he sent letters to them, demanding they cease and

    won’t Ted Cruz stand up against this? Why does Ted Cruz allow these
    PACs to exist on his behalf? Is it because he received a lot of money
    from Citizens United,
    the organization responsible for the existence of Super PACs? If I am
    not mistaken, I believe there are more Super PACS and corporate money
    backing Cruz than any other candidate.

    While Donald Trump is willing to fight
    his own battles and not hide behind Super PACs, Ted Cruz has been a
    coward, cowering in the corner, letting everyone else fight his battles
    for him. So he can then pretend to be a victim. It is repulsive and it
    doesn’t show strength or leadership.

    One great example of this is how the
    OFFICIAL Ted Cruz campaign just put out a video implying that Donald
    Trump bulldozed an old lady’s house in New Jersey to make a parking lot
    out of it. Not only did he not buy the house, but the house is STILL THERE.

    I repeat, the house is STILL there.

    Furthermore, the one who created the
    problem in the first place was Bob Guccione, who first bought the
    surrounding property and actually built a construction cage around her
    home. Trump came in years later and tried to save the day – yes, even if
    it benefited him. The house finally ended up selling in 2014. To
    someone else.

    I am very upset that people affiliated
    with Cruz are now fraudulently claiming that Trump is now a favorite of
    the establishment. How does anyone believe such nonsense? Trump is
    leading by a long shot, he certainly does not need favors from the GOP.

    If the establishment is indeed warming
    up to Trump, you can believe it isn’t sincere. I can only imagine that
    it is either because they are hoping Trump will line their pockets or
    because Trump has put the fear of God into them and they are terrified
    that Trump will jump ship and run third party. I also believe it is
    entirely possible that, as I predicted months ago, they realize the only
    way to take Trump down is by trying to make the public believe he is
    aligned with them.

    If we want to talk about establishment connections, we really need to look to what Cruz is doing now.

    A couple of weeks ago, Cruz bragged on Twitter that he was helping failed candidate Scott Walker raise
    money to pay off his disastrous campaign debts. This is about as
    insider as you can get. Walker, Preibus and Omnibus Driver Paul Ryan
    have been tight for a real long time.

    And recently, Ted Cruz has been attending events with party insiders, as can be read here,
    which tells the story of a recent fundraiser in the home of Mary
    Matalin and Democratic Strategist James Carville, which was attended by
    none other than S. Scott Sewell, a Bush insider.

    Typically, I would just write off this
    sort of behavior to being “just politics” but it just doesn’t set well
    with a lot of people when you have someone like Ted Cruz out on the
    campaign trail, trying to pretend he is some perfect little angel and
    that he is being bullied by the big, bad Donald Trump.

    what about this? A real swell Wall Street Journal piece by none other
    than – Ted Cruz and Paul Ryan. Yes, Ted Cruz teamed up with none other
    than Paul Ryan. And this was less than a year ago.

    I am also bothered by Ted Cruz taking in so much money from Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway,
    who is affiliated with Heinz, which of course is related to John Kerry.
    What the hell is that all about? Just politics, right? What about all
    that railroad money? Will we ever see the Keystone Pipeline under a Ted
    Cruz presidency? Probably not if his donors have anything to say about
    it and why wouldn’t they? He owes them now. That’s just politics and Ted
    Cruz is a career politician.

    Another thing I feel compelled to inform people of is Ted Cruz’s new support of the Convention of States,
    which certainly does not coincide with his wife’s views on sovereignty,
    which you can read about here on the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)

    website article, Building A North American Community. I couldn’t help
    but notice that right after Ted Cruz’s long time buddy and mentor, Texas
    Governor Greg Abbott (Who is labeled a 2016 Kingmaker) came out in
    favor of the Convention of States – you changed your tune on Donald
    Trump. Did Cruz persuade Abbott to take up this issue as a favor to you
    or vice versa?

    Mr. Levin, this open letter is not meant
    to be disrespectful or to suggest that you are being dishonest. I
    believe that you have simply been too busy to do a lot of deep digging. I
    hope I don’t have to face your wrath, but I am willing to, because 2016
    is important.

    I also call on both candidates to knock
    this shit off. It is childish and unproductive. I appreciate that Trump
    is willing to take the heat for his past and ongoing positions. Mr.
    Cruz, I wish you would do the same, but the lies about Trump will only
    harm your candidacy. You can make it stop.

    Think of it like this Senator, if Trump
    wins and you are VP, you’ll potentially have EIGHT years as VP and then
    guess what…. you’ll likely get EIGHT more as his successor. You win.

    By the way Senator Cruz, if you haven’t yet figured out that Glenn Beck is taking you for a ride, you need to wake up!

    At the end of the day, I will vote for
    any Republican who is on the ballot in November, even if that happens to
    be Ted Cruz, but I believe that only Donald J. Trump can Make America Great Again.

    Best Regards,

    Lauren Stephens

  • Xavier
  • FreedomFan

    TLDR. Stick with the Palin approach:
    Bebop a lula he’s my baby.

  • Dannik99


    I read this site almost daily and don’t believe I have posted more than once or twice. However, this is just stupid.

    This long-winded diatribe has little basis in reality. If you line Trumps DONATIONS (where a man puts his treasure, there lies his heart) with Cruz’s donations then you will see a major difference.

    Generally I don’t question the values of people who give me money, but I do question those I give money to. Donald Trump is a Nationalist Socialist! Sure, he loves America…his version of it. He wants to make American great for him. He doesn’t care about you.

    You are willing to turn in every conservative principle for a MAN, not an ideal, not a value…A MAN. That makes you a willing slave to a cult of personality.

    As for Cruz, he’s certainly not perfect, but he is at least beholden to the rule of law and the Constitution. I’ll take that any day over a dictator beholden only to himself. The former has restrictions, the latter doesn’t.

    I know my post won’t change your mind. You are too far gone: gleefully gulping the kool-aide, but perhaps there are readers out there that are wavering with the cup in their hands. Think before you jump for Trump…because he won’t jump for you.

    Thanks for the post Dave, but you are dealing with cultists. Trump could murder someone on 5th Avenue and they would support him…and he knows it.

  • ramrodd

    stop hiding

  • ramrodd

    take that jet….the truth hurts

    email Barnhardt….you dont have the guts………

  • S_O_T_A

    Nope and nope.

    On point one, Trump’s plan really just amounts to an expensive form of amnesty, completely unworkable. It won’t happen, and even if he was president, I guarantee he will cut a deal and move on. That is what he’s done his whole life – why do you think he would do any different? The outcome will not be materially any different than Hillary.

    On the second point, there’s little chance of him landing more than a fleeting glove on Hillary if she is the Democrat nominee. The problem is that both candidates are already very well known, and therefore numbers unlikely to change much. Hillary has the media in her pocket, and they will use the old first woman president line with her, and Trump with his manner will lose the female demographic big time.

    You’re chaining yourself to a guaranteed loser, he CANNOT win.

  • ramrodd

    The reason Beck is like this is his best friend in Texas is that Dominionist David Barton, pushing a con-con along with that idiot Beck, and Barton lies about our founders, and has been called on it by Christian historians and secular historians. And Barton is best friends with Cruz….another damned dominionist. Want to live under a theocracy run on OT Mosaic law, where sinners get stoned in the street? That’s
    what Dominionists believe. They especially want to kill homosexuals, adulterers, disobedient children, etc.

    K. Nelson

  • ramrodd
  • FreedomFan

    If it’s Trump vs. Hillary, you’ll have a choice between an unprincipled, nasty Democrat …. or Hillary Clinton.

  • FreedomFan

    I had to look up ‘Dominionist’.
    Yer a certified nut.

  • S_O_T_A

    I think Dave is absolutely spot on. The 5th Avenue shooting comment really should’ve been the death knell for Trump’s shallow buffoonery, but his supporters thought it funny even as he was insulting them. Can you imagine any other of the candidates insulting their supporters – and having them lap it up?

    btw, as for his Teddy Bear stunt, I can only echo what I read some other person said about that if they had the option of Trump’s send ’em back, build a wall, then bring ’em in legally plan compared to saying – here’s a teddy bear, now get out, I know which one I’d choose.

    If you doubt how principled Cruz is prepared to stand on immigration and look people in the eye about it even as they try to knock him off balance with emotional manipulation, watch this short clip.

    (It’s worth noting that a DNC channel uploaded this)

  • ramrodd

    youre a proven genius

    Cruz and Huckabee Promote Popery – Is it All for Votes or Do They Really Believe Francis Promotes the “Christian Faith”?

    However, what makes one sit up and take notice is that these men both chose to do more than comment, they praised the Pope.

    Christian News quotes Cruz:

    “In this Year of Mercy, may Pope Francis’s example inspire us to treat all with charity, pray for those who are persecuted, and speak out for those without a voice,” he said. “It is an honor to meet a man who has lived the faith so selflessly. I thank Pope Francis for his service to
    God and to the world, and I hope during his visit we are each reminded of our call to see every person with the eyes of Christ.”

    And then Huckabee:

    “I’m not sure that President Obama needs to school and lecture Pope Francis on Catholic doctrine and why he’s wrong. Last time, I checked, it’s the pope who is supposed to lecture Christians, not the other way around,” Huckabee continued. “Unless Obama now has decided that he really has a greater depth of theology and a better understanding of Scripture than the pope himself.” Last year, Huckabee joked to reporters that “[m]aybe we
    should run the pope for president.”

    Despite the fact that Catholics and Protestants share the claim to be devoted to Christ, this is troubling. Despite the fact that we can live in peace with one another, we are not brothers. I do not say that to be mean or to degrade them as people. I say that because what they claim is true and what I claim is true cannot both be true.

    So, Cruz and Huckabee are both trolling for votes, or they are liars. They either believe that salvation is by faith alone and that Christ is the only head of the church, or they believe that the Pope is a champion of truth and a light to Christians. But no matter what, they cannot believe both.

    Which leaves us with liars.

  • DJ

    Trump will garner at least 20% of the Democratic base. That will more than make-up for the deficit he will lose via cuckservatives and neocon opposition.
    Sorry, TRUMP is poised to win in a landside, Deal with it.

  • S_O_T_A

    LOL. Pretty much.

  • S_O_T_A

    Well said.

  • FreedomFan

    “I’ll say this for Trump: he’s refreshingly open and honest about his intention to con you.”
    -David Burge, aka IowaHawk

    “When I’m president, I’m a different person. I can be the most politically correct person you’ve ever seen.”
    -The Donald (not duck)

  • S_O_T_A

    Sorry, but that ALMOST 20% would be a maximum. I read the article that floated that figure. So it will not make up the difference. At a 58% disapproval rating, even if he got all of those 20% (not gonna happen) after being crucified by a media in the tank for the first woman president, it would not be enough.
    Your hero cannot win, it’s that simple.

  • DJ

    Dream on. Trump will trounce the wicked witch in the general. MSM notwithstanding.
    GAWD, how much stupidity can I take!

  • IslandLifer

    Mark Levin is finished with a lot of people, including myself. He’s shown to be a very dishonest Frido. I hate hypocrites.

  • chuck_in_st_paul

    I’d vote for a Cruz/Kasich ticket in a heartbeat Trump/? not so much. Rubio not at all.

  • S_O_T_A

    Just like the MSM didn’t help elect the first black president. You’re delusional if you think Trump could win, even O’Malley would beat him. He is too well known to make up his deficit.

  • FreedomFan

    We have a consensus! Americans want a Leviathan central govt run by a dictator. We’re just arguing about which dictator.


  • Hans Pfall

    Yeah…in fact, I bet YOU said it.

  • Fiberal

    What does it take to see that we need a Bully Boy in the WH?

    It is absolutely imperative to stop the foreign invasion. Trump is the best chance we have to do this. Why is anyone worried about Trump’s principles when BO has
    millions queued up for refugee status, currently being funded by Ryan, is beyond me.

    This will be the end of America – fundamentally transformed as it were.

    So then tell me how you’re going to get smaller government with Cruz, while at the same time you’re getting more and more and more mexicans, muslims, hondurans, venezualans, somalis, argentinians and other sundry third worlders.

    You’re worried about eminent domain when you aren’t going to recognize your neighborhoods in 5 more years.

    Prediction: Trump will win the nomination
    and probably about 60% of the conservative electorate will stay home
    with their “principles”. Another 10% of the clueless undecided will go with Bloomberg or whatever idiot comes along representing independents. Hillary won’t be indicted and will then take
    the WH in a landslide of dimocrats and illegal foreign voters, replete with cheating and foreign money.

    So here’s a suggestion: Don’t recite your conservative principles now and tell everyone why Trump doesn’t rate.

    Better idea….. recite your conservative principles here at MB after:

    you get beaten up by mexican illegals
    you get beaten up by muslims
    you get beaten up by foreigners from S America
    you get beaten up by more and more somalis, everyday
    your car is totaled by a drunk mexican and
    you are maimed in the “accident”
    you have to stand in the unemployment line with mexicans
    you are the only one who speaks English
    your daughter is raped by a mexican
    the neighbor lady is raped by something resembling a human
    the judge lets the perp go
    you drive through Newark NJ
    You drive through CA
    your son is beaten or killed by a drunk-driving mexican
    you have to dial 2 for English
    your church is burned down by muslims
    your daughter is beaten up by muslims
    you finally start taking those spanish lessons
    property taxes going up again – need a new mosque
    No whites allowed
    Mall shot up; your neighbor killed
    The Bible is banned in public places but not the koran
    The debate about replacing the constitution with the koran gains traction
    what constitution?
    you lose your job to a muslim
    riots resulted in your car being burnt
    you are beaten up by a somali, again
    your wife is knifed by somali kids, again
    you get a muslim mayor
    The grocery clerk waits on the muslims behind you first
    the grocery clerk is all “yessir” to the mexican; you wait
    you are told by your muslim boss to grow a beard
    an all-muslim city council – your taxes go up again
    your neighborhood is infiltrated under the Fair Housing Act
    your car is totaled – by a drunk mexican – again
    argentinians, Hondurans, Venezulans everywhere
    no way Kate Steinle’s law will pass – even if you wanted it
    your taxes go up again to pay for yet another mosque
    your neighborhood becomes a “no go” zone
    you are required to state your jihad at work
    muslims all over the highway
    what job?
    Its official – Espanol es language nationale
    government services escalate
    government services in 40 different languages – not English
    condoms all over your yard
    you daughter wants to wear a burka to please her boyfriend
    your wife groped and beaten on the subway by rapeugees
    a muslim shoots up a school or a train and/or your Wal-Mart
    you have to take sensitivity training to keep your job—–again
    your muslim boss steals your cherished purple stapler

    When what is assured to be even more crimes
    and assorted indelicacies brought about by indefinite open borders,
    compliments of “conservative principles” and Hillary – then be sure to post on MB and give us the

    It is indeed a fork in the road for us all. So be prepared for the consequences if Trump loses and it will be interesting to hear about your principles and why Trump didn’t stack up to them back in 2016.

    And if you don’t think that all this is at stake, then you haven’t been watching the head scarfs all around you.


    Republicans have played by the rules and lost the American democracy. And for what?

    For playing the same stupid, smug, self-aggrandizing worthless games you purists are playing now.

  • IslandLifer

    Lol! Stupid.

  • FreedomFan

    Trump strong! Strong like bull. Also spew bull.

  • IslandLifer

    Shows how far your brains are in your guts.

  • DJ

    “even O’Malley would beat him.”
    Good lord! Do you really want to portray yourself as that stupid?

  • Dannik99

    I don’t know SOTA, but it looks like you have a bad case of TSD coupled with ECMO.

    TSD (Trump Sycophancy Syndrome): Trump is infallible, therefore nothing he does is wrong. If you attack Trump, you are wrong. Truth in regard to Trump is irrelevant.

    Ears Closed, Mouth OPEN (ECMO): I cannot disagree in substance, so I will ignore any truth I don’t like and use ad hominem to attack your character.

  • Dolan Trump

    The problem is after a single Trump term Republicans will be reviled again like after bush and we’ll get 8 years of Obama 2.0 not another shot at a Rand or a Cruz.

  • Dannik99

    Sounds about right. I weep for the country.

  • Dolan Trump

    No but he buys and pays for politicians for his own personal gain. Someone who buys others will sell himself for the right price.

  • Dolan Trump

    He’s been for socialized medicine for decades. You can be a national socialist without being a white supremacist.

  • Dolan Trump

    Europe is fascist at it’s heart not America.

  • S_O_T_A

    I absolutely stand by that. The actual person running on the Democrat side matters little. Whether it’s Hillary, Sanders or O’Malley, the final pick will get the full weight of the machine behind them. I’m sure the DNC would prefer the Hillary nomination on a ‘first woman ever’ narrative basis, but they need to have back-ups in play.

    The major thing that will guaranteed decide the election will be if the Republican nomination, of which Trump is the least popular amongst the general population, and has the worst chance of winning presidency, with possibly the only exception of Bush being slightly worse. He would be a singularly awful choice.

  • S_O_T_A

    ‘Yes! Let’s abandon principles! So we can have a principled man in office!’

    Fiberal, you are losing it big time. By your own logic you can see Trump can’t win, yet you support him? Re-read your OWN comment above.

  • S_O_T_A

    That was Hans, not me.

  • IslandLifer

    I’ll remember this comment. I’ll repost it for you when he wins

  • Telos

    And then people wonder why nobody takes Trump supporters seriously. They are irrational neanderthals.

  • stephmcg

    Trump the Democrat is in this race to give the presidency to Hillary. The fact that people fall for Trumps brand spanking new views on immigration without questioning them or even vetting Trump,just shows how dumbed down our country has become. Which is quite sad.

  • stephmcg

    Yes it does.

  • Borg_Squasher

    Get over it, Cruzbot, you lost. Seems Americans like a politician not bought off and wants fair trade NOT free trade and wants to close our borders. You got.snookered ban e east coast ivy league lawyer LOL

  • Borg_Squasher

    You guys are so smart! While you collect unemployment checks for yet another year, you can see right through a simpleton like Trump! Big wonder a Canadian Cuban backed by Goldman Sacks fools you guys huh?

  • Borg_Squasher

    I recommend anyone here with half a brain fed up with the Cruzbots head over to Breitbart where dudes with a clue actually post

  • Son of the Rabbit People

    I’ll be following this site until they pull the plug on the internet. We don’t always agree at the start, but we do when the battle lines are being drawn. I too, felt like I could live with Trump on the campaign trail because he was saying things that needed saying. But if and when I have to choose between Trump and Cruz, bye Trump.

  • FreedomFan

    Thanks. I wish I could say you Trumpsters are smart. But yer not.

  • FreedomFan

    Andrew Breitbart would never have supported Trump– a dishonest, greedy, misogynistic, bigoted, unprincipled, empty-headed Democrat posing as a Republican.

  • IslandLifer

    Now that was a long winded diatribe!

  • Pyrran

    Trump in his own words. I’m still waiting for someone who supports Trump to defend this. All I hear is crickets.

  • Another illiterate, uneducated jacka$$ announces himself. Why don’t you go read about what real National Socialists did and then come back and talk to me.

    Where is the homicidal racism? Where is the desire for lebensraum? Who will he throw into the concentration camps? Who will man those camps? Americans? Really?

    I mean I can understand why you fear American Exceptionalism, America first, personal responsibility and personal liberty. You are just another brainwashed public school tool who never questioned beyond the curriculum.

    I have been studying WWII for going on 45 years. To include causes, politics, personalities, tactics, strategies, battles and post war and how it shaped the modern world. Let me tell you that National Socialism was a rather unique system that applied to a certain place and time. Mussolini and Hitler were unique historical personalities products of their specific times and circumstances. And what they did was a last gasp of pre 20th Century bigotry and hatred.

    It is rather difficult to imagine an American Reich at least to me. The American people are not Europeans who are used to being led around by monarchs (Hitler and Mussolini WERE monarchs by another name, as Stalin was a czar and Mao was simply the strongest warlord).
    Dullards throw around the label constantly with no understanding of hat it really means cause they think it makes them seem like deep thinkers but in reality it exposes a deep intellectual flaw.

    Spare me your asinine tropes. They are unworthy if adult discussion.

  • Really? Have you read Mein Kampf?

  • Dolan Trump

    You understand that Mussolini was a national socialist right? German Nazism is a racist subgenre within the larger political philosophy of national socialism. They’ve only been conflated for brevity.

  • Really? You do realize that Mussolini started as the master that Hitler admired?

    National Socialist German Workers Party.
    National Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiter Partei

    Come back when you are not vomiting out progressive agitprop.

  • TED

    You know of course the Trump video I posted of him confirming all his liberal values and love of Hillary CAME FROM BREITBART, right?

  • TED

    I am beginning to wonder IF some of these Trump supporters are nothing more than TROLLS supporting Trump 1. Because they THINK he would be easily defeated, and/or 2. If he did win he would revert to his ole’ leftist ways! Most of the RADICALS are names I’ve never seen here before…JUST SAYIN!! (NOW, watch the attacks!)

  • TED

    I cannot believe the ATTEMPT at censorship of ANYTHING that is less than Trump WORSHIP here !! A lot of us that were FOR either are having second thoughts about Trump, and NOT because of HIM.

  • TED

    REMAIN steadfast Dave! This is turning into a fight for our American values…

  • TED

    BTW TROLLS, this does NOT mean in any way that I would vote for some leftist Commie POS or NOT vote at all! I WILL vote for either Trump or Cruz!

  • Dannik99

    Sorry, that was unclear. It was directed at Hans saying “I do not know the poster with the handle SOTA, but it looks like you, Hans, have a bad case of…”

  • Dannik99

    Shorter than the one above it.

  • Bob Dole

    Cruz is a neo-con cuckservative. This site is now a full-blown establishment cuckservative cheerleader rag.

  • Dolan Trump

    Lol. So democratic can only mean Democratic? The NSDP is a proper name. National socialism is a concept… “national socialism”… whereas ” National Socialism” usually refers to Nazism specifically. This isn’t rocket science.

  • Zek Gulag

    Moonbattery is one of the best conservative sites on the internet, posts like this one demonstrate why. Keep up the good work.

  • S_O_T_A

    You might as well delete it then.

  • S_O_T_A


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  • DJ

    Jewish Fear And Loathing Of Donald Trump [2]: “New York Values” vs. Muslim Immigration
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    “The uproar over Sen. Ted Cruz’s jibe that Donald Trump reflected “New York Values” said a lot about contemporary American political debate.

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  • Wilberforce

    Just now getting around to reading this, Dave, and I knew it was coming.

    Very well-written and you’ve got nothing to apologize for. If you’ve told the truth, sourced your material, and people still attack you? That’s a “you problem” on them.

    Keep at it, friend 🙂

  • Fiberal

    There are courses in logic offered at community colleges you may want to look into.

  • S_O_T_A

    By your own argument you have admitted that Trump is unprincipled, which will not appeal to many people, hence the votes will not be there. By your own admission he will lose because people like you would stubbornly hold to a MAN no matter what. Somehow you think supporting a man is a better option than the principles he or she abide by.

    Furthermore, somehow you seem to think that your argument is valid whilst a range of candidates exist, but the argument for ‘the lesser evil’ can logically only exist when there are NO other options. Your argument is not one worth discussing UNTIL there are other options on the table.

    You’re all over the shop, Fiberal. Stop hero worshipping. If Cruz said he could shoot people and still have support, I’d drop him like a hot potato, because it would tell me that he gives not two hoots about ordinary people. You have a narcissist in the WH now, and you seem to be happy to send another guy even worse in. Wake up.

  • DJ

    If Ted Cruz want’s to maintain his credibility/viability, he needs to disassociate himself with wack-job Glenn Beck. PRONTO!
    Huh? Glenn Beck Tells Iowa Crowd He Prefers Bernie Sanders Over Donald Trump

  • Eddie_Valiant

    You really are an amazing troll Dole. Someone who says the gas chambers didn’t exist in Nazi Germany is all one needs to know about your place in the world.

  • Eddie_Valiant

    Here’s the rest of the quote DJ. Context does matter, unless you’re a mainstream media lover:

    He said he even prefers Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), a self-proclaimed “democratic socialist” running in the Democratic presidential primary, to Trump.

    “Honesty, faith and truth are basic requirements. And quite honestly, I have to tell you, this probably isn’t going to go over very well, that’s why I like Bernie Sanders,” he said. “Bernie Sanders is like, ‘Yep, I’m a socialist.’

    “I can actually sit at a table with a man who says, ‘Yes, I’m a socialist, and yes, I don’t like what we are doing, we should be more like Denmark,’ ” he added.

    Nowhere does Beck say he wanted Sanders to be President. He says that Sanders is putting it on the table as to who he is, unlike the majority of candidates who say anything to get elected then completely forget who got them there. Beck’s problem is he needs to learn to shut up and not leave stuff like this out there.

    I may even agree with Beck in this case. We know who Sanders is – a communist, who will do his damndest to destroy what’s left of the US. We don’t know what Trump is in it for, other than his own ego and promoting a progressive agenda, by his own words..

  • coyote

    Sir: what is (was) America but white european nationalists colonizing a new world? All our populist movements were quasi-fascist; in the 30s, many Americans (esp those millions descended from German origins) were sympathetic to the German cause. Henry Ford’s newsletters at the dealership counters spelled out the reality the JQ; farmers and businessmen across the country agreed with him- especially during a depression brought on usurious central bankers- and we know who those are.

  • coyote

    tsk tsk. calling out the hypocrisy is verboten, nicht var? illusion is all we monkeys have to dress our butt nakedness in, hans- mustn’t tear down the curtains…

  • DJ

    Beck is a whack-job and he’s tarnishing Cruz’s rock-ribbed conservative reputation. Cruz would be well advised to distance himself from such a fruit-loop. But it may be too late. The Cruz/Beck association is already ingrained in the minds of the electorate.
    BTW, nobody claimed Beck said he wanted Bernie Sanders to be president. And yes, we know Bernie is a quasi-commie. We also know Hillary is the same.
    And YOU may not know what Trump is in it for, but most everyone else does.
    TRUMP 2016

  • coyote

    The real problem is the Empire is in terminal collapse; denial just giving way to anger stage. The brutal binding of the States after the War of Northern Aggression is coming undone. Good Riddance. Presidents who sock for whoever or whatever are immaterial in the final throes of a power hungry elite who will throw us all under the bus to maintain their tyranny. Absolute corruption everywhere, from the local sheriff and judge in Burns to the gibsmedat handler Soros. The wheel turns, another “exceptional place” burns.

  • coyote

    principled whores can have hearts of gold, right? we saw that movie.

  • coyote

    Sir: I missed Trump saying his supporters were “dumb”- only that they would continue support him if he shot someone in the street. I took that to mean something positive, eg. if he was witnessing a typical undocumented shopper gebsmedat rioting and raping, or perhaps a polar bear attack from the oppressed special victims unit. As sheer entertainment, it is marvelous to watch the repartee among believers in the fantasy that American national electoral politics will result in any change beneficial to the proles.

  • TheChaoticStorm

    I don’t deny that Trump is a brilliant businessman, but I fear he is saying what people want to hear (sound familiar from 2008 and 2012?) I get the impression he is riding the wave of resentment brewing in the country and is profiting enormously.

    His past is extremely progressive and the man comes off as an obnoxious loud mouthed bully who will get his way or throw a tantrum. It’s possible he could have changed his progressive leanings and become more conservative with time, but I am highly skeptical. His track record is not good in this area.

    I do appreciate that he is not beholden to lobbyists, but I cannot get over his boorish behavior and I imagine others feel the same. IMO that is why so many view him unfavorably – I wasn’t a fan of him long before he announced his candidacy.

    I appreciate that Cruz is not a career politician and he definitely has a spine, which we definitely need. Whether he is the best choice or not remains to be seen.

    I applaud you for sticking to your guns. Moonbattery will always be a daily read for me.

  • You couldn’t even pass rubber band science. National Socialism is a specific philosophy that is associated in the public’s mind with only one thing.

    You are another oh-so-clever who really is intellectually inferior.

  • coyote

    This is a great site; many thoughtful and insightful commenters. As a newbie here (kicked off many left-leaning sites), I am relieved to see the openness allowed. I must say I remain surprised at the level of trust and belief among (what appears to be honest paleoconservative) republicans in the “system”. The “red pill” is often used as a descriptor for those who have ‘awakened’ – or become terminally cast adrift from- an illusion in which a small elite maintains control through multiple channels of propaganda and indoctrination. The circus keeps the crowds enchanted; the bread is distributed to the gibsmedats: the next “hero” enters the arena. Nothing changes, the wisdom of history and our heritage is trampled once again in blood and dust. Moonbattery is an apt description for the insanity we witness in our modern circus, but it is all just shadows on the cave wall.

  • coyote

    Sirs- you should NOT be voting in ANY national election whatsoever. It only gives them validation to continue owning you. “if voting made a difference, it would be illegal”- Samuel Clemens.

  • Daniel

    The article linked as evidence of Trump supporting amnesty is speculative.

    “You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them
    to succeed. You have to do that. But the bad ones, and there are bad
    ones, you have to get out, and you have to get them out fast.”

    He did say that. But the article goes on to speculate.

    “That’s “path” as in “path to citizenship,” not a path to exit the
    country via our southern border. And it’s clear he was referring to the
    bulk of the millions of aliens. The “bad ones” he would deport he
    depicts as a minority of the illegals. How small a minority is wide open
    to speculation.”

    See, that’s a problem. The reference cites speculation about what they think he meant. It’s funny because this is the same sort of speculative interpretation which had the global media up in arms thinking he said “all Mexicans are murderers and rapists.” (He didn’t say that either)

    What’s more, Trump has been asserting all along that we follow and enforce the laws AS WRITTEN. We don’t need new laws to accomplish what is needed. And Trump has been clear that all here illegally must be deported. ALL of them. He would like to allow people to come back legally which means going through whatever process the law has established.

    This is a far cry from amnesty.

  • Eddie_Valiant

    Actually Drudge and the Gateway Pundit, by the headline, implied Beck wants Sanders to win. Unless you went to the Clinton School of Language Arts, it’s fairly clear and misleading.

    I know exactly what Trump is in it for, and he would make a terrible President. He’s as unctuous a human being as there ever has been in the race for POTUS. One of the Discovery channels ran a brief bio of him and he is without a doubt, overly vain and demanding as they come. At one point, the co-pilot of his aircraft was cleaning the face of the overhead compartments with Q-tips to clean any remnants of dust. Trump is free to do so, but if he tries that approach to being President, he will create one of the most divisive White House environments ever. I’d like someone to reform the mess, but he’s not the guy to do it.

    He’s a big government guy because it benefits him. His stance on eminent domain says it all. From what I can see, Trumpies are just disaffected democrats that can’t stand Bernie or Hillary. Cruz is the guy who will support the Constitution.

  • Wilberforce

    For what it’s worth, I was at that Cruz rally and agree with Beck. He was simply saying at least Sanders is up front and honest about who he is. Nothing more, nothing less…

  • Nobama

    At the bare minimum people should view the 1988 republican convention clip of Trump. The notion that he’s always been a democrat simply isn’t true.

  • JohnnyBee Dawg

    It’s a moot point. Cruz was born in Canada, and is not a “natural born” citizen. He is not eligible to be POTUS.

  • DJ

    Well, we can argue back and forth about who’d be a better pres, Cruz or Trump (for the record I’d be okay with either). However I have a sick feeling in my gut that after the process runs its course we’re going to end up with either Jeb, Kasich, or Rubio. There’s simply too much money invested in the status quo to risk allowing Trump or Cruz to win the presidency.
    Bottom line: TPTB will make sure their interests are NOT threatened.

  • chuck_in_st_paul
  • Eddie_Valiant

    In an odd way, that is refreshing considering so many hacks get elected and do the opposite of what they ran for office on.

  • Eddie_Valiant

    We have common ground – either Trump or Cruz will be better than the current and recent POTUS. I sincerely hope that none of the others are the candidate because if that happens, the electoral process may be damaged beyond repair, at least from a conservative Republican perspective.

  • Silence Dogood

    Really? Is that why all the GOPe goons are now supporting trump? Reality bubba, it matters.

  • Silence Dogood

    Oh, you mean “Trumpbart”?” The site that’s getting PAID by trump to boost his image? LOLOL

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