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Feb 15 2016

Ace of Spades on Trump’s Moonbat Meltdown: Not One of Us

Ace of Spades offers an interesting perspective on Trump’s moonbat meltdown at the debate Saturday night:

If Donald Trump is right, and George W. Bush deliberately schemed with his neo-con advisers to “lie” us into a phony war with Iraq, what does that say about the average Republican voter who supported Bush from 1999, voted for him, defended him through the recount, cried with him on 9/11, agreed with him on Iraq, defended him from ceaseless liberal attacks on him during the war, defended him from Obama’s never-expiring “Blame Bush” blame-shifting, etc.?

If Trump is right, then we’re not just wrong to have supported him. If Trump’s right, we’re g**damned rubes and fools to have defended this Actual Hitler-Level Monster for going on 17 years now.

Here’s why the Donald might finally suffer some blowback:

Trump specifically and completely contradicted a belief that 75-80% of Republicans have about Bush — that he was a fundamentally decent man, perhaps overwhelmed by a very difficult period, who made an [arguably] erroneous decision based on incomplete information — and instead offered a new belief, that Bush deliberately lied about Iraq’s WMD’s, a position that 75-80% of Republicans have long not only rejected but have been actively hostile towards.

With no better reason to adopt this new claim other than that Donald Trump said it.

Trump supporters have a decision to make. Are they wrong about Trump? Or have they been wrong about disagreeing with Code Pink types for the past 15 years?

As for Republicans who hadn’t made up their minds about Trump,

Dress it up however you like, the subconscious messaging in every election is…

I’m on Your side.

He’s not like Us.

With just a few poorly chosen angry words, Trump declared a lot of allegiance to the enemy tribe, and essentially said “I’m not like you.”

But he is like Michael Moore and the rest of the far left whackos who share his views regarding 9/11, W, and the Iraq War — not that this is likely to cause his overwhelmingly negative rating with Democrats to drop.

According to Ace, Trump screwed up by attacking basic beliefs in a ham-fisted manner that does not allow his followers to agree with him without excessive damage to their egos:

Who wants to be someone else’s Thought Bitch?

Ego defense might also work in Trump’s favor. His supporters must be starting to realize that a slick-talking swindler tricked them by pretending to be something he is not. The question is whether their egos are strong enough for them to admit their mistake.

No one likes to admit they’ve been had.

On a tip from Torcer.

  • marcus tullius cicero

    …El Trumpo showing his true DemoCommie colors… a Liberal NYC scumbag!

  • ThisObamaNation

    Don’t forget that George Bush was very close to the Saudi Royal Family and had lots at stake viz a viz Saudi Oil Money, George Bush was one of the first people to publically declare Islam a “religion of peace”, and to advise Americans against any type of back lash against muslims. I think he chose to invade Iraq as a scapegoat for 911 because he could not bring himself to invade Saudi Arabia, the real source of the 911 attack.

  • ThisObamaNation

    If you like Bush so much why don’t you vote for Jebra?

  • coyote

    “thought bitches” be blue-pilled goyim stuck in da matrix-hood. Lolzz: rubes at the carnival show thinking the right hand puppets are “their kinda guy”. getting harder to laugh instead of cry, though.

  • ThisObamaNation

    See George Bush’s Entire Islam Is a Religion of Peace speech here…

  • ThisObamaNation

    A picture is worth a thousand words…

    Speaking of pictures have you seen the pictures of George Bush holding hands and kissing the Saudi Prince Abdullah on the lips?
    You can google them easily.
    The Bush’s are OWNED by the Saudis.

  • Fiberal

    Here’s (among many other reasons) is why:

    It doesn’t matter if the senate delays or not an BO SCOTUS nominee? What?

    This is the kind of crap the bushes have been dealing out to the U.S. since HW.

    Having said that, for wading into this Trutherism nonsense Trump apparently had a primary subdural haematomaic idiot attack.

    The political judgement of both these fools is right out of a third grade coloring book.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Casting scurrilous appellations defines a cranial malfunction. Trump isn’t PC, nor is he bought and pocketed by Soros. Speaking one’s mind is not common in politics and causes vapors among the ladies and frightens the horses.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    “No one likes to admit they’ve been had.”
    If you have been voting Republican for all these years, you’ve been had, seriously HAD.
    There is about six degrees of separation between the GOP and the Jackass Party.

  • eskyman

    The more I find out about Bush, the less I like him. I’m sure glad Trump has the gumption to stand up to the crap thrown at him! Speaking of Michael Moore- when are you going to stop spreading lies here at Moonbattery?

    How sad it is to see what was once a great site being reduced to this kind of douchbaggery. Hey, there’s your new name! Your logo can be a crying baby!

  • Tuvok Shakur

    Faith is missing from the list. But if you’re a vulgar, billionaire, materialist your dead mother’s bible makes an adequate substitute.

  • Xavier

    It’s pretty obvious that the Presidency is a vanity project for Trump. He identified disgruntled Conservatives as a voting block ripe for the picking, and then applied Obama’s ’08 strategy – grand proclamations but no detail or substance.

  • Xavier

    They’re different sides of the same coin.
    Or, different cheeks on the same butt.

  • Sherman1864

    Just left HotAir after it sold out to FB and abandoned virtually all of its commenters.

  • Fiberal

    There are definitely unanswered questions involving Bush and the Saudi Royal Family.

    It is well-known that W flew members of the SRF out of the U.S. right after the towers came down.

    From civil action taken by relatives of 9-11 victims against Saudi Arabia, it has been revealed that Prince Turki bin Faisal Al Saud, Prince Bandar Bin Sultan and Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, of the SRF have been specifically named as Al-Qaeda donors – but that the major patron was Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, who in January 2015 became Saudi Arabia’s king.

    The Saudi role in the 9/11 plot has never been adequately examined.

    Former Senators Bob Graham of Florida and Bob Kerrey of Nebraska and the former Navy secretary John Lehman have demanded the release of 28 pages of the congressional report that explored Saudi connections. The report has remain classified. Both the administrations of George W. Bush and Barack Obama have refused to declassify the 28 pages on grounds of “national security.”

    None of this of course, means that W was a co-conspirator with the SRF or had intelligence prior to 9-11 or invaded Iraq under false pretenses.

    What it does mean however, is that there is a relationship between the U.S. government and the SRF that should not be there. And that the relationship is being maintained covertly against the citizens of the U.S.

  • Fiberal

    They sold out before that when they gave Allahpundit a spewing platform.

  • Alphamail

    Well said. And the fact it continues despite the oil price plunge makes it even more curious. If not politics – airstrips?

  • Skip

    Moonbattery obviously does not like Trump and it’s followers cannot make up their own minds. If Donald Trump is not the nominee in 2016 the GOP will lose the election and may never win the presidency again.

  • cecil11

    No one likes to admit they’ve been had??? Pot calls out the kettle!!!

    Laughable: When every republican and democrat in the running, or on the scene has openly, unapologeticly screwed over the American populace, supported an invasion, taxed and pilfered the productive, expanded big government.

    On it goes, But thankfully … no one likes to admit they’ve been had!!! I admit it. Hence Trump.

    Trump by the way was never the answer. Just a step from the problem. And only a little step at that.

    But crabs hate it when another tries to climb out of the pail.

  • Johnny Monday

    Trumpertantrum’s followers commenting here make it very clear that they cannot think objectively or critically.

  • harry mullet


    Explain this:

    That Debate Moment When the Script Is Evidenced…

  • Torcer
  • Torcer

    What if Trump reverts back to being a progressive?

    Are you willing to wager the future of the nation on being wrong?

  • Torcer

    Trump: I’ll work with Democrats
    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is stressing his bona fides as a dealmaker who’d be able to enter the White House and work with congressional Democrats to hammer out agreements.

    “I think I’m going to be able to get along with Pelosi — I’ve always had a good relationship with Nancy Pelosi,” Trump said Tuesday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” referring to the House minority leader.

    “Reid’s going to be gone. I’ve always had a decent relationship with Reid,” Trump said, referring to Harry Reid (D-Nev.), the Senate minority leader. “I always had a great relationship with Harry Reid.”

    Trump said he thought he’d get along with “just about everybody,” including Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), likely to be the next Senate Democratic leader, who Trump said he was “close to … in many in ways.”

  • Torcer

    Who Said It: Donald Trump Or Hillary Clinton?
    On gun control: “The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions…I support the ban on assault weapons[.]”

    In his book “The America We Deserve,” Donald Trump reiterated his support for the so-called assault weapons ban.
    On the wisdom of massive new tax hikes: “I say it is only reasonable to shift the burden to those most able to pay.”

    In 1999, Trump proposed a 14.25% surtax on the wealthy, saying it would raise $5.7 trillion to pay off the debt.
    On public figures who say crazy things: “Pat Buchanan has said too many inflammatory, outrageous, and controversial things to ever be elected president.”

    Yes, it’s true. Trump wrote in “The America We Deserve” that someone who says outrageous and inflammatory things will never be president.
    On immigrants living in the U.S. illegally: “Give them a path. You have to make it possible for them to succeed.”

    Trump’s remarks on amnesty came during a press conference in Chicago on June 29, 2015.
    On abortion: “I want to see the abortion issue removed from politics. I believe it is a personal decision that should be left to the women and their doctors.”

    Trump’s remarks on abortion are taken from “The America We Deserve,” a book he published in 2000.
    (From August 11, 2015)Who Said It: Donald Trump Or Hillary Clinton? – via @FDRLST

  • Rotohammer

    The coalition did not invade Iraq because GW said there were WMD. The coalition invaded because Iraq violated the UN-imposed sanctions for weapons inspections. Saddam Hussein gave the appearance of hiding WMD when he kicked out the UN weapons inspectors. Had he let the inspectors do their job, there would have been no invasion.

    After his capture, Saddam revealed that he was afraid of Iran finding out that Iraq had no WMD. He underestimated the resolve of the coalition.

    A president treacherous enough to invade on false pretenses (and especially treacherous enough to orchestrate 9/11) is treacherous enough to plant WMD to justify the invasion. That never happened.

    With 20/20 hindsight, the invasion may have been a mistake, and mistake or not, the loss of coalition soldiers a tragedy. Bush had his nation-building neocon circle, and Saddam plays brinkmanship with Iran and the threat of invasion. A perfect storm.

    What was not by mistake was the intentional despicable behavior of Democrat politicians and the media, denigrating our troops, who performed stunningly well under terrible circumstances. It was not until it looked like Barry or Hillary might become president that the media stopped with the body counts and the bad spin. Then Barry comes in and wins the war and gleefully concedes to Iraq’s demand for withdrawal. Bush forewarned what would happen if a withdrawal were to occur, and he was right. Bloodthirsty extremism has filled the void, in the form of ISIS.

    If you want to play the hindsight game, then you have to imagine the world with Saddam still in power. The saber rattling and rancor between Iran and Iraq, and those nations with the US, would be deafening. Libya would still have its WMD development program. Qaddafi might still be in power. ISIS would still emerge in Syria. All with Barry at the helm.

    If you preferred having Saddam Hussein in power, Christopher Hitchens can tell you who you’re rooting for:

  • MicahStone

    Jeb is getting the “help” he deserves !!!!!

  • Rotohammer

    I was in favor of Trump at first. I liked his political incorrectness. I liked hearing about the border wall. Now he seems boorish. We had to hear him drone on an on about Ben Carson’s belt buckle and Carsons’s pathology. Then with the dustup between the Cruz campaign and Carson in Iowa, Trump refers to Carson as a great guy.

    I had to grieve for a while over the loss of a politician I wanted to believe existed, but never really did exist. I’m over Trump now.

    Trump is all over the map of political discourse. So much so as to be undefined, his thin policy statements not withstanding. As such, he is a blank slate upon whom voters can project their hopes and wishes. Barry was like that. His presidency would not live up to the hype.

  • Rotohammer

    I don’t like the Saudi connection, either. It’s some kind of unholy alliance. Saudi Arabia did flood the oil market in 1985 to help bankrupt the Soviet Union and end the Cold War.

  • 762×51

    I have tried to explain to people for YEARS that the reason Bush 43 went into Iraq was because of the violations of the Gulf War 1 Treaty, not the stupid reasons espoused by the Progressives, like oil, etc.

    People just don’t seem to understand that a war is fought until one side surrenders. There is a treaty signed that formalized the end of hostilities and defines the duties of each participant. The treaty is ALWAYS skewed to favor the victor because that is why the war was fought.

    Once Saddam began violating the treaty, there were only two possible alternatives, he could reverse course and come back into compliance with the treaty or we could re-fight the war.

    If Japan had continued to bomb targets in the Pacific after VJ Day, WWII would not have ended in August 1945. Such a simple concept yet they cannot grasp it.

  • Rotohammer

    Under two terms of Bill Clinton, Saddam came to believe the treaty had no teeth. It may be why he chose to take his chances with violating the treaty weapons inspections, rather then let Iran find out Iraq had no WMD.

  • CTsOpinion

    I never considered Donald Trump a Republican let alone a Conservative. His vulgar vapid pronuncements are those of an assclown. I also wonder about the credentials of his fanatical minions as they remind me of Paulbots, only hateful in this addition.
    IMO The Donald is a dangerous demagogue and a Democrap at heart.

  • CTsOpinion


  • Ed. G. Mann

    So? Dumbya said the same thing as did his father. Reagan did with Tip.
    At some point those clowns are going to have to work together or deliver what I want: At least four years with out a Federal Government.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    The comments about the various individuals running for office are unbelievable, to say the least. Trump is a Democrap and a demogogue, Bush is a drooling compassionate conservative, Rubio is a member of the Gang of Eight and a Huma protector. Cruz has put in an application for Sainthood. Carson can’t find his way out to the podium. Kasick still thinks he’s in NH.

    Why don’t you vote for the Pope? He’s not lying or telling tales. Of course he’s so much of a Socialist with a far Left bent, he makes Bernie look like a reincarnation of Attila.

    This thread sounds like a bunch of kids in a sandbox squabbling over a shovel.

  • Tadpole

    Don’t forget, the Tea Party was formed to oppose the hyper-progressive spending tendencies of the Bush administration.

  • bobdog19006

    Hoo-rah, ed.

  • Kevin R.

    Exactly. Saddam Hussein violated the cease-fire agreement multiple times. The UN kept issuing resolutions about these violations of the cease-fire agreement. Finally the UN issued UN Resolution 1441:

    –Resolution 1441 stated that Iraq was in material breach of the ceasefire terms presented under the terms of Resolution 687. Iraq’s breaches related not only to weapons of mass destruction (WMD), but also the known construction of prohibited types of missiles, the purchase and import of prohibited armaments, and the continuing refusal of Iraq to compensate Kuwait for the widespread looting conducted by its troops during the 1990–1991 invasion and occupation. It also stated that “…false statements or omissions in the declarations submitted by Iraq pursuant to this resolution and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with, and cooperate fully in the implementation of, this resolution shall constitute a further material breach of Iraq’s obligations.”–

    In light of Hussein’s refusal to actually comply with the cease-fire agreement Bush said that we had to put teeth in the UN and bring about regime change in Iraq. The coalition invaded in order to topple Hussein and bring about regime change. and, it is important to remember that once the forces were deployed and ready to invade Saddam Hussein was given 48 hours to step down from power and there would be no invasion.

    It was all about regime change.

  • 762×51

    Yep, a treaty is a contract between the warring parties. When one side breaks that contract, for our Progressive troll readers, that’s what material breach means, the war is back on, there is no other possible alternative.

  • 762×51

    Until the shooting starts, then there will be some very real differences.

  • Bully

    I fully second that. As a non-compassionate conservative I never quite trusted GW Bush. In the end he didn’t disappoint. Same is true of Trump. My impression of him has always been he’s an A-hole.

    Then, when he first began debating, my impression began to change. I began to like him for the same reasons as Rotohammer.

    Now I’m swerving to the right again. I think, in the end, my initial Trump impression will not disappoint.

  • Torcer

    NO, working together is the circumstances for how this mess came about in the first place.

    It is time to stand up for Liberty against the national Socialist Left.

  • Giorgio Palmas

    Hello- I’m John Ellis Bush and I chose the douche moniker “Jeb”, even though I’m not an Amish person named Jebediah. Sorry- you lost me at Jeb.

  • CTsOpinion

    All heed the great and mighty, Ed has spoken.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    If you don’t consider Trump a Conservative or even a Republican fine. Shouting out slurs only adds heat but no light.

  • Deep North

    With the towers still smoldering in New York, Bush and company took advantage of our fear of radical Islam. Instead of a massive military response in Afghanistan to kill OBL, he squandered our military in Iraq, a country ruled by a secular dictator that posed no threat to the continental United States; was a buffer against Iran and did not allow Islamist groups to operate in Iraq. 9/11 worked out well for the neo-cons because of our post 9/11 sense of patriotism. Even without 9/11, we would have eventually invaded Iraq. The Project for a New American Century called for just that.

  • 762×51

    I’m going to steal that “different cheeks on the same butt” line, the next time some imbecile tells me when it come to politics, they are in the middle.

  • Paul Byvtary

    He won’t because he is blind.

  • Paul Byvtary

    If he does that would certainly suck but the fact is if not for Trump we would without question wind up with a progressive.

  • Torcer

    And on what Facts are you basing that assessment?

  • Alphamail

    ROTOHAMMER, 762×51, and KEVIN R.
    Revisionist history has been flying around here like the monkeys in “The Wizard of Oz.” I know we’ve spoken this truth many times over the years but it’s nice to see it stated by you guys as a group. Dubya is being raked over the coals here lately – as if he was Jimmy Carter – and while he was far less than a perfect president, his recent characterizations here have been what we would have read at HuffPo during that time period.
    For God’s sake, Saddam violated every treaty agreement after losing the war and was shooting at our aircraft in the declared no-fly zone! To hear commentary here in the last couple of days you read that Jews inside Bush’s inner circle plotted phony stories about WMD’s so Bush could invade and nation-build and sacrifice troops for his own political gain.
    That is the sewage of progressivism that has crept into MB. Does anyone realize where the WMD’s Assad recently used came from? British Intelligence informed Bush that Saddam had them – and the CIA bought some of them back. And as far as the troops, Dubya rides bikes with and honors vets at as many events as he can. He still loves them and prays with them – more than you could ever say about Hillary, Lurch, Huma, Bern, or even the Donald.
    Obama drew a red line in Syria then acquiesced and the conservative pundits skewered him for reneging (as they should have). I’m proud of Dubya – when the red line was drawn in Iraq (as you all so eloquently and factually state), he did what world leaders have to do (like it or not) he called bullshit.

  • Alphamail

    Responding in case you receive a Discus email – so you can check back and read my response to Rotohammer (and you and Kevin R).

  • Alphamail

    Responding in case you receive a Discus email – so you can check back and read my response to Rotohammer (and you and 762×51).

  • JoeK


  • Paul Byvtary

    You silly dumb dumb, I just told you the facts. I’d explain more but I’m done lighting candles for the blind.

  • One reason it’s hard to shake many Trumpbots out of it is he’s got them emotionally invested, joining him in personal attacks on Cruz and others, so it’s problematic for them to back down and admit what an ass they’ve been making of themselves. But ‘getting the mark emotionally invested’ is detailed in The Art of the Deal as one of Trump’s primary techniques for sucking-in such suckers.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Nowhere did I say that the GOP turkeys should acquiesce to the Jackass Party as they do now. You grind it out until both sides are pissed off with the finished product. Something is produced and you give up a minimal amount of ground to get it.

    Or as I posited, we can have what I want, four or more years without a Federal Government.

    If you think someone who has taken donor money can say no to policy they want, fugeddaboutit. They got the money because they were going along in the first place.

    Face up to reality. The two political parties are PRIVATE parties. Who in hell gives them the right to tell anyone what the rules are for running for office, who can run for office, how many names you need on a petition or what color ink you use to sign the goddamn paper.

    I want both parties wrecked, ruined. Then if you want to run for office, you go down to the courthouse, pay a nominal fee (cover the cost of putting your name on the ballot) and then start canvassing for votes. Lotsa luck.
    Start running for Mayor or dogcatcher to get your name known.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    I liked Reagan. I voted for him and Goldwater; the only two times that I voted Republican. Otherwise I voted the Libertarian ticket.

    Reagan was a switcheroo too. A longtime union man and a member of the Jackass party he finally had a Damascus Road moment. So don’t get the idea that others can’t have the same bolt from the heavens set their hair on fire too.

    Don’t forget that the Donkeys screwed him over big time. He never got the tax cuts that Tip O’Neil said were forthcoming; that started the deficits growing in a major way.

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  • Van Spyke

    Fact # 1. GW Bush sold the Iraq war to the American people under the pretext that Saddam Hussein was manufacturing and stockpiling WMD. Furthermore W asserted Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear program. Bush lied and he knew he was lying. It resulted in one of the worst, if not THE worst, military blunder in modern history. Trump is absolutely justified to criticize Bush for that!!! Trump should be praised, not ridiculed.
    Fact # 2. The truth is the WTC attack on 9-11 happened while GW Bush was president. Trump merely reminded us of that fact. In no way does pointing out that FACT make Trump a “9-11 Truther” or a conspiracy theorist.
    Fact #3. Bush, along with his pro-choice/gay marriage loving wife, were and still are unrepentant progressives – not conservatives. His record reflects that.

    IMHO, any ‘conservative’ that defends GW Bush is deluded to the max.

  • Torcer

    Hint: FACTS would be in the form of an EXCERPTS and Links from authentic reference sites.

    Let’s face it – you have none.

    Try acting like an adult sometime.

  • Torcer

    Ed. G. Mann
    Nowhere did I say that the GOP turkeys should acquiesce to the Jackass Party as they do now.

    Ed. G. Mann

    So? Dumbya said the same thing as did his father. Reagan did with Tip.
    At some point those clowns are going to have to work together or deliver what I want: At least four years with out a Federal Government.

  • Chantal

    Maybe you want Mitt Romney to run again ? He allegedly had all those characteristics .

  • Paul Byvtary

    You dumb slob, I already told you the candle will not be lit for you.

  • Torcer

    Try acting like an adult sometime.

  • Silence Dogood

    Reagan made the transformation over the almost decade that he was a governor. Trump, no more than two years ago was a left wing democrat. Leopards don’t change their spots that quickly. And Trump, with his buying and selling of politicians is the epitome of what is wrong in DC. He’s admitted to paying off dems. He’s also admitted to giving McConnell money to defeat Tea Party candidates. So, with that in mind, how can he be for change in DC when he PAID to keep it the same? See where I’m going here? He’s not conservative, he’s not a republican nor does he care about anyone or anything but Trump.

  • Silence Dogood

    Yeah, the pope IS telling tales when he tells followers of Jesus that a personal relationship with Him is dangerous.
    I don’t think so.

  • Paul Byvtary

    Shut up Guber.

  • Torcer

    Again: What if Trump reverts back to being a progressive?

    Are you willing to wager the future of the nation on being wrong?

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Certainly, don’t vote for Trump. You and 14 others will be voting for Bush/Cruz/Rubio or Carson. Excellent. Just realize that even on the Donkey side the establishment is not going to go anywhere. Now what?

  • Ed. G. Mann

    What if he doesn’t? All hypothesis contrary to any known fact. Rumor mongering at best.

  • Torcer

    And you can’t answer the question..

  • Paul Byvtary

    How would that be different than the past?

    Trump or Cruz needs to be the next POTUS for any hope of a good future.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    One doesn’t chase after hypotheses which are unknown and unknowable.
    What if Bernie decides he’s actually wrong and becomes a TEA Party buddy. What if Jeb drops out? What if Dubya says he was wrong. What if-what if. Those aren’t questions, those are what kids do when they don’t know what else to say.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    After Trump is elected, you will get the chance to find out.

  • Torcer

    You’re dreaming that he is electable.

    Why is the #NationalSocialistMedia not bringing up his weaknesses?

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Of course I’m dreaming. That’s why you and others here are so worried that Jeb, Rubio and Cruz will fall to the wayside.

    Since you’re right there isn’t anything for you to sweat.

  • Silence Dogood

    You’re too clueless to have this convo. WE ARE OUTNUMBERED now. Open your freaking eyes. Trump is NOT going to win in a general election, his unfavorability rating is TOO HIGH. God you people are worse than a cult.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Do you think I actually care? You’re dealing with one elected position; the Congress is a charnel pit of corruption.

    Congress has been voting themselves absolution from every law that they pass. They do insider trading, take money in return for placing a bill for consideration. (Whether or not it passes makes no difference) They’ll vote for a swamp protection in Posthole, Idaho in exchange for a vote on another building with their name on it in their district. That contract will go to the company that bids the better donation to some slush fund.

    It is called Plunder Legislation and it’s done every time they vote on a bill. The difference between the GOP and the Dems is one is in power and the other is out.

    Meanwhile, you’re worrying about whether Trump or Cruz or Rubio wins? This is really humorous.

  • Silence Dogood

    Yet here you were, trumping the horn for trump. Laughable you are…. And untruthful.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    No, I’ve been truthful.

    Of all those running I prefer Trump. Cruz is in second place. Carson comes in third. However you can put them in a can, shake them up and see who comes out first and that would be OK. But if you think any one is going to make a real difference…Nope, you have to deal with those corrupt characters in Congress first.

  • Silence Dogood

    Go back and read your comments. Untruthful is spot on.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Perhaps you need to look around and read what I’ve written in other places here in Moonbattery.

    I actually said that I want to destroy the GOP as it is a destructive factor in our electoral process. I also wrote that the Jackass Party is in the process of self-immolation.

    O have been very consistent in my positions and in my writings. I also noted that there is an inordinate amount of invective cast when someone doesn’t hew to another’s opinion. All that does is render that individual small and not worthy of further discourse.

  • Silence Dogood

    Your words:
    You and 14 others will be voting for Bush/Cruz/Rubio or Carson. Excellent.

    Now you’re being hypocritical. I don’t care what you’ve posted in other places on this site or any other. I care about what you’re saying this moment.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    How very shallow of you.

  • Silence Dogood

    Wow, don’t like being shown the truth of your own words huh? Yeah, ok. Whatever you say… LOL Bye now.

  • Torcer

    Why is the #NationalSocialistMedia not bringing up his weaknesses?

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Bernie is far out enough to change his stripes. He is after all an Independent. He got on the Donk ballot, and I really don’t know how he did that. I’m being honest with that statement.

    I’m a native Vermonter. I know Bernie from when he first ran for office in Vermont and lost. He finally won the Mayor position in Burlington and promptly killed the financial position of that City.

    His wife was the President of Goddard College in Plainfield, VT. Put the skids to that place. Now she is the President of Burlington College in Burlington. That is about 85¢ away from bankruptcy.

    Bernie will drop an old idea for a new one fasted than a bride can drop her panties. The press can’t keep up with him.

    As for the others, the State Owned Media will pick up on something only when it suits their agenda.

  • Torcer

    So are you a fan of Bernie’s national Socialist agenda?

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Who is the idiot that ever let you near a keyboard? Do you EVER read the entire comment written AND can you understand what what was written? So far you haven’t evinced any possibility of any of the above being true.

  • Torcer

    Can you answer the question please.

    Are you a fan of Bernie’s national Socialist agenda?

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Now here’s something for you that Cruz said about Trump post Carolina primary.

    Trump got low ceiling of 32%of the vote but that means that 68% of the Republican Party don’t support him.

    OK, Given that that is true, Cruz got 22% of the vote which means 78% of the Republican Party don’t support him. Or Rubio either.

    At some point you will wake up to the fact that the two political parties are so corrupt, so interlocked with donor money, that you and other voters don’t mean squat to them.

  • Torcer

    Ed. G. Mann

    Who is the idiot that ever let you near a keyboard? Do you EVER read the entire comment written AND can you understand what what was written? So far you haven’t evinced any possibility of any of the above being true.

    Then who are you supporting?

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Trump because he’s the only chance of ripping apart the GOP elite and that corrupt party. In the General elections I voted Republican twice as I posted here before: Goldwater and Reagan. Otherwise I’ve voted for the Libertarian Party.

    Once I voted for Gus Hall because of the assholes the Repubs and the Donks put up as candidates. You can vote for the Green Party. They’ll make Bernie look like Attila.

    Hillary isn’t the only one hiding in the Wall Street vaults. The GOP is so cozy with the FED, remember Dubya and Paulson (TARP) and the bank crash.Obama and GM. The FED and QE forever using your money to prop up Wall Street and the markets. What is that doing for you. Where are your Conservatives?

    I don’t know how old you are but you have a hell of a lot of living and learning to do AND not much damn time to do it.

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