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Feb 28 2016

Trump Promises to Silence Dissent as President

The Founding Fathers are not resting easily in their graves if they know some of us would consider turning the presidency over to someone like this:

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump on Friday vowed to “open up” libel laws in order to sue media outlets that write “purposely negative” and “horrible” articles about him.

“I’m gonna open up our libel laws, so when they write purposely negative and horrible, false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money,” Trump said at a rally in Fort Worth, Texas.

“We’re going to open up those libels laws,” he added. “So that when The New York Times writes a hit piece, which is a total disgrace, or when The Washington Post, which is there for other reasons, writes a hit piece, we can sue them and win money.”

The Donald went on to shout at his critics that they will be sued “like you’ve never got sued before.”

Normally Trump’s promises are easily dismissed in light of his past stances and behavior, but this one seems legit, considering how much effort he has expended bullying people through lawsuits.

If Trump is this openly tyrannical now, before even having secured the nomination, imagine what he will do to the First Amendment in order to silence his critics once in power. As noted previously, he is not running for president; he is running for dictator.

Good thing for the Donald that his decree revoking our right of free speech is not already in force. Bush 43 could sue for a pretty penny over the Code Pink lies Trump regurgitated in the South Carolina debate, when he falsely alleged that W deliberately lied to lead the country (and a large coalition of other countries) into war.

On tips from Good Stuff, 762×51, Varla, and Thomas Charles. Hat tips: Lonely Conservative, Victory Girls.

  • calmly_observing

    Like so many things Trump says lately, this is not so much serious as just a knee-jerk reaction that he knows will satisfy his current fans and maybe pick up a few more. Wait another day or two. He will moderate his comments and maybe even practically reverse them.

  • Tostig

    Today Trump was asked to disavow David Duke’s endorsement and refused to do so. In his defense, apparently he never heard of David Duke, and said he needed to “go do some research” before he could comment.

    Trump is something the left couldn’t have made up even if they were pulling out all the stops in an imaginative frenzy.

  • Duckster1964

    The media constantly spews pro-liberal, anti-conservative lies with absolutely no consequences…Dave Blount approves of this system and doesn’t want anyone to try and fix it…Dan Rather, Brian Williams and Dave Blount have a lot in common…

  • Deserttrek

    get a grip on reality regarding trump and the media …….

    the media knowingly prints lies , ruins careers and puts the recant in the middle of the classifieds ……

    they do need to be held accountable …. free speech can indeed be lies but whmaking money off the lie then they shold be lible

  • Wilberforce

    So Trump never said these things?

  • BillyBob Bob

    Trump should hire Pope Francis’ Vatican spokesman from the ‘He Didn’t Mean What You Heard’ department.

  • BillyBob Bob

    The ‘Lawyers Guild for Judicial Remunerations’ has just pulled their largesse from Hillary and say they are all in for Trump.

  • Duckster1964

    Ye he said it…Why should the media be allowed to blatantly lie with no fear of being called on it? They lie 100% in favor of liberals and against conservatives, so if you are against what Trump said, you are a liberal tool…

  • In other words, the same sort of illegal activity currently engaged in by Obama through his INjustice Department.

    Presidents are not members of the Legislative Branch and have no business even thinking about making or changing laws, except through making proposals to Congress. This signals he would not be my choice to nominate someone for the U.S. Supreme Court as well, because he would attempt to pick someone who would do as he wants – legislate from the wrong branch of government.

  • Eddie_Valiant

    The Donald has a problem with Jeff Bezos, owner of the Washington Post and founder of

    Trump is really looking like a jackass, more than ever. His recent tit-for-tat with Rubio displayed why neither are fit to be President.

  • sandyaz

    Let’s see, mmmmm, President Wilson did just that. Monstrous man. Put people in prison for saying negative things about him. We can’t get another person in the Presidency like Wilson.

  • Son of the Rabbit People

    But, as I have learned this weekend on another thread, at least he’s not a boring old constitutionalist conservative that will never, ever, ever be elected. That’s why everyone needs to support Trump. Because he says crap.

  • Fiberal

    Let me understand this. First of all, libel is illegal. But proving libel comes with a very high hurdle — malicious intent, knowing what you wrote to be wholly incorrect.

    Secondly, cases are generally determined at the state level. These are precautions out of concern for the 1st, but it is still in fact, legal to pursue libel under the Constitution.

    However, the legal libel standards as a protective shield against their propaganda against political figures, and others, have been enjoyed by media fishwrap like the New York Times for decades. This has
    contributed enormously to the undermining of the political process and the general deterioration of American culture. This comes about by
    the support of the MSM for antiAmerican policies and their attack on critics of such policies. As well as for support of the likes of Teddy Kennedy and BO. and at the expense of genuine Americans like Ronald Reagan.

    Libel standards are high out of concern for the 1st. But in this context, its totally reasonable and perhaps time we looked at the Constitutional protections that have been exploited by the MSM to obtain their ends; which are always, always antithetical to those of the nation as a whole.

    The expansion of libel may not in fact be unconstitutional. A proposal to widen the laws may actually be helpful to the preservation of free speech by restricting wanton libelous propaganda. It would of course, depend on several factors weighed against the 1st, that would come in such a proposal. That is, the question at hand is: who and how can the media be allowed to influence or destroy in the political process of the country?

    So if I understand MB correctly, this is another case (like the accusations associated with Trump University) of guilty before innocent.

    And yet, because Trump has in his PC-incorrect way, waded into a vitriolic comment, frustrated by the same forces that call him and regular Americans, disgustingly racist, homophobic, extremist, chauvinist and privileged.

    We cannot have a Republic without a fair media. But understand that the media shares common interests with government when it comes to advancing both of their institutional interests. And both will use the second amendment in unbelievable ways to crush freedom of assembly as well as the 1st.

    Its interesting that someone has finally said something about the libel laws. If this argument had been presented in a more analytical way, critical of the exploitation of the 1st, and by a different person, then rather than the reflexive antiTrump reaction you have against everything Trump says, its conceivable that even you guys could line up in agreement with him in this particular case.

  • Tostig

    So anyone who is against anything Trump said is a liberal tool. Got it. A person is either in complete submission to every utterance of Donald Trump or is an enemy. Have you thought about where this kind of attitude leads? Is this your vision of “America”?

  • Fiberal

    Oops.. Sorry about the italics. we are disembarking.

  • Mr. Freemarket

    Should I be worried about having a president who is prone to knee-jerk reactions?

  • calmly_observing


  • Ed. G. Mann

    You sound like a liberal with the twisting of the words. Trump never said anything about jailing someone for saying something negative about him. He said he would make it easy to sue for printing patently false statements which constitute libel.

    Actually what you’re doing is exactly what he is addressing.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    The difference with Trump and others who ran and were elected President comes down to who is slinging the mud.

    Trump isn’t afraid to hurl the big ole handful. Other more elegant “characters” occupying the Oval Office had their minions fling the poop or in the case of LBJ, he got down in the ditch, right up to his armpits and splashed.

    There are no white suits and halos in the political business; Trump is well suited to handle the rocks and arrows headed his way. Having the press fear him is a mighty fine thing.

  • CTsOpinion

    Is crap maybe.

  • Alphamail

    Where in the Moonbattery archives can I look up where Dave lied, where he approves of lying without consequences, or where he has stated he doesn’t want anyone to fix a system that is allowed to lie without consequences?
    I’ve scoured the archives and I can’t find anything remotely close to what you’ve just stated. Can you quote a statement, or give me a thread, a day, a month, or a year in which he said that?
    Dan and Brian wouldn’t hear a thing you’ve said (maybe Brian would talk to you if you told him you were with him at Gettysburg). while Dave has allowed you abundant comment space to mock and slander him and make a complete and total ass wipe of yourself.

  • CTsOpinion

    So the assclown is a would-be tyrant, who’d a thunk it?

  • CTsOpinion


  • Wilberforce

    “…so if you are against what Trump said, you are a liberal tool…”

    Congratulations, you’re in a cult.

  • Fiberal

    Thank you.

    You may have stumbled into representing the best analytical skills the MB ant-Trumps have to offer.

  • KHarn

    “Progressives” can only deal in extremes; it’s either one thing or another. There is no middle ground, no variations.
    A good example is their stance on guns; either NO ONE has any sort of gun, or EVERYONE is wildly firing machineguns.

  • KHarn

    So you think that TRUMP should be held accountable for his lies and slander?
    In a free country, the law is equally applied to ALL, even the rich and powerful.

  • Chocolate&Cheese

    Hahaha haha haha hahaha. Ridiculous hyperbole from the low energy camp.

  • KHarn

    They feared Obama, too. Look at how sucky that turned out.

  • KHarn

    Are you aware of all the “butt hurt” lawsuits? You know, the ones where the ACCUSED has to prove innocence? Even though they violate the Constitution of the US and States, Trump can use that tactic against those who TELL THE TRUTH.

  • KHarn

    The FBI is called in on what once were local crimes. Trump would do no less with his “libel” threats.
    You are aware of “hate crimes” are you not? they have been expanded far beyond what they once were and will continue to expand. Since Obama has a year left, they might soon include “hate” against the president of color. After that, it would be simple to include the whole gang of federal idiot.
    Please don’t waste your time saying “that will never happen”, we’ve seen too much that would “never happen”.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Those have been stopped by the simple means of making the losing party pay for both sides costs, penalties and all court costs. The term used was SLAP; rarely are they brought now because of the cost to the losing party. Judges are very quick to terminate them with prejudice meaning they cannot be brought again.

    I don’t think you can find a SLAP lawsuit now. Even those where someone writes a truthful but bad review about a business, those business may threaten but back off when faced with stiff opposition.

    First rule in any altercation is #1 be in the right and #2 don’t back down.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    The State Owned Media always was on Obama’s side. With Trump, not so much. Giving those pompous flacks religion will cause them to regard Trump as one would regard a rattler.

  • Fiberal

    —On Sunday NY Times Smears Trump – Says He Did Not Disavow David Duke Endorsement.

    —On Friday Donald Trump disavowed David Duke’s endorsement during his press conference with Governor Chris Christie.

    —In fact, there was no formal endorsement by Duke.

    So there you have it; a naked attempt by the NYTs to influence the election by slandering a candidate. The Times is doing so under overt assurance of the 1st and the tacit realization that the structure of the current libel laws protect it. And that there is little, if no recourse for Trump at this point.

    You might start to realize why Trump is calling for intervention.

    With hate crimes, what you are pointing out is not actually an example of how the expansion of the libel laws would be abused, but in fact, what you are pointing out is yet another problem.

    The development of hate crime laws were an obvious sop to blacks designed to increase punishment guidelines, with the application of the law predictably and intentionally discriminatory.

    But any law designed to engineer behavior can be abused or ignored entirely. The IRS is an institutional expert in that regard.

    Libel laws however, and their general enforcement at the state rather than federal level are different. They have been fashioned with regard to the 1st and the priority of the media. But without media policing itself, the MSM can hide behind those laws. Expansion of the libel laws is therefore a reasonable proposition when these institutions are for all practical purposes, free to operate to libel someone who has little or no recourse.

    Expansion of the libel laws in such a way to protect free speech under the 1st may pose challenges, but as you can see from the above example, set up blatently and grotesquely by the NYTs, they are challenges that are unfortunately necessary to undertake.

    Trump is pointing out correctly, that the status quo is completely unacceptable.

  • Fiberal

    You know what? I didn’t read this “butt hurt” drivel before I posted my response to you.

    So please disregard my comments above. Someone else may be able to use them.

    I should have realized that you are not arguing this point with anything resembling a full deck.

    My bad.

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  • S_O_T_A

    Well observed.

  • Eddie_Valiant

    Is Carly Fiorina still interested in running?


  • TED

    DISSENTERS WILL BE SILENCED! EVERYTIME he opens his mouth ONLY LEFT comes out!! HOW can any conservative seriously support him??!!!

  • TED

    GOING straight to the 2nd would be TOO OVBVIOUS??!!

  • TED SO MANY in this thread proving it!!

  • TED
  • Jill

    How is this hyperbole? Would you have accepted or dismissed such a statement from Obama?

  • Jill

    Trump said this. If it looks bad, it is because it is bad and represents a warning for the regard Trump will have for natural rights.

  • Jill

    You’re a liberal tool if you err on the side of greater liberty?

  • gary

    there is a such thing as defamation of character, and anybody that prints false information about someone should be sued. How would feel if people were doing this to you?

  • Chocolate&Cheese

    Are there two other coequal branches of the federal government? Quit acting like trump is going to be a dictator. It’s so ignorant.

  • Jill

    If there is ignorance, I daresay it is not on my part. Did I say dictator? No. Do I believe that he will have little regard for personal liberty or the limitations of the office? Certainly. I do not want eight more years of rule by executive fiat. Most conservatives, I imagine I don’t want that either.

  • Chocolate&Cheese

    Your crystal ball is amazeballs Jill.

  • Daniel

    I am completely appalled at this. I believe that the press should be allowed to report any and all false information regardless of who they are reporting on.

    This is why George Zimmerman, the evil and falsely framed self-defender and legal gun carrier, was unable to successfully seek damages against the media which reported a completely false and life-endangering narrative against him.

    The media should be allowed to do this to anyone at any time for any reason…

    …right Mr. Blount?

  • Daniel

    George Zimmerman has had his life destroyed because of media lies. He sued and was denied. I think a higher standard of factual reporting should be applied to professional media given the massive potential of public harm which can result. (“War of the Worlds” anyone?)

    And of course “misinterpreting” something “alluded to” but never actually stated by CNN is also a problem of media reporting standards.

    So if you believe Cruz is innocent of the Iowa incident and that it was CNN’s fault? Then surely you realize that such things can change the course of the democratic process and thus harms everyone.

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