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Mar 03 2016

Separated at Birth?

There’s no word for it, but cult leaders all seem to have it:

The Donald has so much of that unnamable quality that makes cult leaders so special, you can prove definitively that every reason his devotees give for supporting him is bogus, and they will merely respond by showering you with incongruous insults and grunting, “Go Trump!” No doubt if you showed them video of Trump admitting that his entire candidacy has been a ruse to destroy the Republican Party, discredit conservatism, and hand over to the Democrats an election that otherwise they certainly would have lost, the response would be the same.



  • Ed. G. Mann

    When the primaries are over, Trump has the nomination and heading into the General and you are all lined up with your pants around your ankles, leading one another in the Baby Elephant Walk, take a break, write when you’re feeling better. We can then try to figure out who was that other guy named Rubio.

  • Torcer

    Hilarious!! Get your Trump University ‘Certificate of Deception’!!
    The Ted Cruz campaign continues to amuse with the best social media political jabs of this campaign season.

    This time they’re offering to let people get their “Certificate of Deception” from Trump University:

    http://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/705503812098732032/photo/1
    Ted Cruz@tedcruz
    Get your own #TrumpUniversity certificate of deception here —> http://bit.ly/1VTzi7H

    The Donald is currently embroiled in a few lawsuits over the scam that was the Trump University, and he’ll actually have to appear in court during the presidential campaign to defend himself.

    And don’t think his opponents will shy from using them against him:
    https://youtu.be/Nm_7QMyoC5I
    http://therightscoop.com/hilarious-get-your-trump-university-certificate-of-deception/

  • Torcer

    Pelosi warns GOP about booting Trump http://washex.am/1RLtlII via @DCExaminer

    Please explain why the national socialist left is so anxious to compete against Trump?

    Oh! that’s right, you never provide direct answer to questions….

  • SicSemperTyrannis

    Sorry Dave. I get it. I too would prefer Cruz but at this point a Trump nomination seems inevitable. Eventually we need to support him. And the way the GOP is gnashing and crying and having tantrums kinda makes me want to see it unfold this way anyway. They’ve let us down over and over again. Lied at every turn. Let the bastards squirm. Maybe it’ll be a wake up call…..

  • Chocolate&Cheese
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  • guest

    @torcer:disqus , look at the nic… do you notice anything gay and happy about the colors. Pun intended.

    That tells you all you need to know about him. Or do you think that the whole, ‘pants down’ rhetoric is only figurative?

    He wants trump to win, because Hill wins if that’s the case

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html#polls

  • guest

    Not quite.

    But what is inevitable is Trump’s loss to Hillary if he gets nominated.

    And how can electing a man who supported and donated to McConnel and Boehner just as recent as 2014 in their fight against anti-establishment, be a wake up call?

    It is no coincidence that Trump boast about his great relationship with Nancy, Reid and such. They both just endorsed him for GOP. So much for a anti-establishment.

  • guest

    Good to see you chocolate. So will you finally be explaining where vet’s money go? Did they somehow get lost in Trump’s Personal Foundation?

    Only $800K of $6 million raised by Trump for veterans has been accounted for. @DrewGriffinCNN explains on @NewDay. https://t.co/4rcFmmzAdV

    — New Day (@NewDay) March 3, 2016

  • ThisObamaNation

    Cult leader my ass. Maybe Cruz is a cult leader.

  • SicSemperTyrannis

    Funny how he manages to piss off al those people who he was attempting to buy off as a businessman. Now he’s sticking a finger in their collective eye. And I don’t really believe the polls that say Hillary will beat trump. She’s the poster child for flawed candidates and excites no one.

  • Stephen

    This is an amazing thing the GOPe is doing, it’s the political equivalent of pulling the pin on a grenade and dropping it in the foxhole. I think it looks like they’ll be successful in dramatically diminishing Trump’s chances in the general election at the cost of making it impossible for any other candidate to get more than 40%.

  • TED
  • TED

    LEFT-wing TROLLS, I.Q. black holes…

  • TED

    ROTFLMAO!!

  • TED

    RUBIO?! Who’s Rubio?

  • wilfranc

    got a mouse in your pocket?

  • Fiberal

    Dave. This is just getting ridiculous.

    Now consider this: If the eGOP decides to go to a brokered convention to keep Trump from getting the nomination, they will have extinguished democracy for good.

    As it is today, between the muslim-mindlessness of BO and the self-loving, spineless eGOP refusing to do what they were elected to do, America has already, all but lost its democracy.

    And a brokered convention would be not so much to elect Cruz, or to get a dark horse, but specifically to prevent Trump from entering the WH. For what?

    A return to the eGOP status quo?

    When the country is as diseased as a two-dollar whore after being molested by BO for 8 years, that will bring in the death throe for democracy.

    Moreover, if republicans aid and abet Hillary and her rapist husband into the WH, where she pardons herself, and as her administration slowly realizes that she has no credibility to handle top secret directives, America becomes even more defenseless against foreign invasion, both from mexican criminals and from muslim Caliphate-obsessed suicidal spittoons.

    Sit-at-home, smug, self-satisfied, sports-obsessed republicans and the ego-maniacal eGOP allowed the loathsome BO to fist-bump himself into another term in 2012.

    And now by all accounts, a lot of the same here are setting themselves down in their Lazy-Boys, to do it for Hillary in 2016.

  • Tadpole

    Can anyone really believe that Trump, after convincing middle America that he is on their side, would turn around after winning the Presidency and say – “ha, fooled yas!” The revenge of the people, betrayed again by a RINO, would be terrible. Trump’s business empire would be destroyed overnight, not to say his personal life in America. Actually, I think it would likely set off a second civil war. When taxation continues to rise as political representation falls, what alternative is there?

    Also, the negative reactions to Trump from many blogs on the conservosphere suggests to me that there may well be a class issue involved – Trump is invariably described as “an ignoramus”, “a clown” (one of Shakespeare’s terms for a peasant), “a vulgarian”, etc., which are class labels for the “uneducated masses.”

    We are witnessing a working-class revolt against the “educated” ruling elite, and many of those who rub shoulders with the elites are embarrassed by him. This also would explain why Trump’s negatives are so high – social embarrassment, even in the presence of pollsters.

    Romney’s recent scathing criticism of Trump can finally tipped the balance for me – I would vote Trump for sure now (If I were a US citizen).

  • chuck_in_st_paul

    yes I can believe he’ll do it by the back door

  • chuck_in_st_paul

    Trumpers on the march
    .

  • Fiberal

    BTW here’s a tidbit that may concern a lot of your anti-trump readers:

    As evaluated by the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution Tax Policy Center, Trump’s tax plan, when compared to Rubio’s (yeah, whatever) and Cruz’, is the only one that takes social security cuts off the table.

  • Chocolate&Cheese

    Who? The guy that hired JEB!’s people when his campaign folded?

  • Chocolate&Cheese

    The Dunning-Kruger Kreskins here will disagree with you. I miss Hitchens. He had a stunning intellect and unrivaled command of English.

  • SicSemperTyrannis

    That’s right the wise little mouse that tells me not to cut off my nose to spite my face. Trump will be the nominee so if you choose to support Hillary (because you didn’t get the right GOP candidate) by staying home than God bless you, but that mindset lost us the last election too. There’s even a chance he’ll do some good things… at least he’s not an Alinskyite.

  • Kevin R.

    I think it’s a matter of who would/will suppress the vote in their respective party more.

  • Kevin R.

    Trump University degrees come on a roll. You can get them six to a package or save money and buy them twelve rolls to a package.

  • abso-fucking-lutely beautiful!!

  • Dolan Trump

    Did you see Romney today? I can’t tell you how pleased I am I held true to my vow to never vote for a RINO again. I swore that afterI voted McCain. Didn’t vote for Romney and I sure as hell won’t vote for Trump. There comes a point when you have no choice but to stand on principle.

  • Chocolate&Cheese

    Y’all didn’t stroke out since the GOPe and Faux News didn’t destroy their target didja?

  • Mike_W20

    There isn’t even Kang and Kodos these days, imo; just Kang.
    The bastards have a lock on U.S. politics, no matter whom you vote for.

  • Nobama

    As a Cruz voter, I have to agree. We must pull together as a party soon, whoever the nominee is, or else this country is finished.

    Despite of all his faults, I still have more faith in Trump than any other Republican nominee since Reagan.

    And once again, if Trump was really such a hardcore Democrat his whole life, then why was he at the 1988 Republican convention? http://youtu.be/acpmInqcuH4

  • Nobama

    You and your principles helped give us Obama. Now you want to give us Hillary?

    Trust me. Your principles will mean nothing if she gets in. Our country will be finished. What good are your principles then?

  • Nobama

    Exactly. It will all come down to voter turnout. And Trump supporters are super energized to vote for him, unlike Hilllary supporters. And Bernie voters could very likely not vote for Hillary in the general election, especially after the way the Democrat party has treated them. I just saw an article where 90,000 of them signed a petition to have Bill Clinton arrested.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/petition-calling-for-bill-clintons-arrest-approaches-90000-signatures-2016-03-03

    This thing is far from over.

  • Dolan Trump

    8 years of Romney = amnesty + no wall + a follow-up of 8 years of a Democrat.

  • Nobama

    Yeah I get it. That was Romney and I never trusted him. He was the GOPe pick, just like McCain. Trump isn’t. That alone makes me trust him a whole lot more, despite all his flaws.

  • S_O_T_A

    President Trump would not be materially different to Hillary on any major policy. You just can’t see it.

    The funny thing about your argument is that your saying that your anger is sufficient justification to ignoring an obviously superior candidate to go for a loudmouth cretin, but their anger at being handed another fake for the third time running isn’t. Why is your emotion worth so much more than others?

  • Ed. G. Mann
  • Ed. G. Mann

    I actually enjoy watching all of you go batshit.

  • Fiberal

    You know, sometimes I can’t tell if you’re reading my posts or replying to someone else’s.

    However.

    Even if they (I believe you are referring to those sitting out the election) are incensed at being given a fake for the third time, how does that justify putting Hellary in the WH?

    As for my “anger”, let me introduce you to the fallacy of Ignoratio Elenchi which consists of substituting for the conclusion to be proved some other proposition. It is intended to conceal the weakness of a position by diverting attention from the real point at issue.

    Thank me later.

  • S_O_T_A

    I weary of your posts too Fiberal, because you ramble with overlong posts, cherry pick evidence by playing down what doesn’t suit you and exaggerating what does.

    Thanks also for defining your own tactics.

    The solution for getting people not to sit out is to stop putting fakes in front of them, that’s pretty obvious to people who can think. When an alternative is still in the hunt, it makes ZERO sense to support a candidate who is a fake and almost no polls have shown to beat the opponent. In plain English, your logic is lacking.

  • Fiberal

    Thanks for the reasoned response. You don’t see a lot of that here these days.

    I am also very impressed with Cruz. He has great command of the issues.

    However, I don’t believe he has the stuff that it takes to carry on a long-term fight with Dims and RINOs, nor do I think the state of the country is such that Cruz will be effective in implementing hard conservative policies. He has no effective allies in the senate or congress and half of the country’s people (I am reluctant to say citizens anymore) are so morally bankrupt as to want to put a criminal with blood on her hands in the WH.

    Cruz also has the typical background in business and economics of a life-long attorney and politician, which when compared to Trump’s enormous successes in business, is insufficient to recognize and respond to the coming dangers of a $22T deficit.

    Both Cruz and Rubio have tax plans with their sites set on cuts in SS as a way to pay down the deficit. Loading the deficit on the backs of the elderly is just wrong.

    Trump understands money. Trump has access to a network of expertise from all forms of business and finance. This, and foreign invasion are at the heart of our problems. Trump is the only candidate with a strong position on immigration and will try and stop the muslim and mexican invasions. (Rubio – for him race tops everything; and he is the measure of national suicide)

    By and large, it would be a mistake to hand the roiling and intractable problems the country now has, to a classic, Reagan-style conservative. Especially one without a track record of political successes like Cruz. If he fails, that’s the end of conservativism as an ideology. The country is too far to the left and too infected with the mentally indigent to recover from four years of a failed Reaganite.

    If Trump fails, it will not be because he was too conservative.

    At this time, in my view, we need a tough, experienced hard-nosed bully to clean up after BO and the disease, the foreigners, the crime and the bubble economy in this country. If there is any chance whatsoever to build a foundation for the next president, presumably a more ideological conservative like Cruz, it will take someone like Trump.

  • Fiberal

    Help yourself out – See my logic below to Nobama.

    And for the record, I am not at all tired of your posts; I usually just ignore them.

  • rex freeway

    This would fit Joe Biden to a tee.

  • Torcer

    Very nice – except you will have difficulty trying show where that is the case with me.

    With Trump those cases are manifest.

  • Torcer

    Hahahahahahahahahaha!!

  • Torcer

    More for you to consider:

    AMAZING! 60,000 Democrats Voted in Virginia Republican Primary http://disq.us/9albit

    Democrats Salivate—and Shudder—at the Prospect of Trump
    Democrats may not exactly be feeling the “Bern” for Hillary Clinton, but the prospect of a Donald Trump presidency is creating more than enough energy to make up for it.

    The former Secretary of State may have been helped on Super Tuesday by Trump’s strength. One Massachusetts senior statesman told TIME that he thought his state swung to Clinton, where she won by one point after losing neighboring New Hampshire by more than 20 points in January, because voters wanted the best counter possible to Trump’s candidacy.

    “Trump fires up our folks and he really does unify our party,” said a senior Clinton campaign official. “The unification in the Democrats party, versus the other side, has already started.”

    Some are downright eager for a Trump nomination.
    http://time.com/4244874/donald-trump-democrats-hillary-clinton-general-election-attacks/

  • rex freeway

    Bernie voters will be stoned out of their Gourds and either forget to vote or pass out and miss election time listening to Nickle back and Tool. More incense sticks will be burned than Bernie voters that actually make it to a voting booth.

  • rex freeway

    After the last 4 election cycles I trully believe that television and radio advertisements be banned until the last month before elections. No fake Debates. These fake infomercial style yelling matches end up with the participants yelling “yo mama” at one another and are useless in helping people decide on a candidate And are the main cost in elections. If candidates want exposure then travel the country. Also, every able bodied legal citizen should be required to vote. If you dont vote then you forfeit your income tax return for that year. Democrats would never win another election.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Even better, hold all the primaries in October, the conventions in November and the Election in December. As soon as the winner is determined, swear them in, no lame duck sessions. Get the losers out of there.

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Means nothing. You have no idea how they’ll vote in the General. Just as you have no idea how many Republicans will stay home and not vote. Or vote for a third party.

    You’re singing the Disneyland tune, “When you wish upon a Star”…

  • Torcer

    Here, I will give you another chance at dodging a question:

    Please explain why the national socialist left is so anxious to compete against Trump?

  • Nobama

    Sure hope so!

  • Nobama

    Don’t you mean the global socialist left? There’s nothing nationalistic about them.

    Just sayin

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  • Torcer

    Then explain this quote: Now and then the workers are victorious, but only for a time. The real fruit of their battles lies, not in the immediate result, but in the ever-expanding union of the workers. This union is helped on by the improved means of communication that are created by modern industry and that place the workers of different localities in contact with one another. It was just this contact that was needed to centralise the numerous local struggles, all of the same character, into one national struggle between classes. But every class struggle is a political struggle. And that union, to attain which the burghers of the Middle Ages, with their miserable highways, required centuries, the modern proletarians, thanks to railways, achieve in a few years.

    The Communist Manifesto
    II. BOURGEOIS AND PROLETARIANS Page 18.
    http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-tools/the-communist-manifesto-original-text-t3022.html

  • Nobama

    I think you missed my point. Nationalists desire a strong independent nation that fiercely defends its borders, language and culture. That’s the last thing Obama and the global socialists want. For them, it’s all about the global struggle between counties for economic equality. They are seeking Marx’s ultimate goal– world domination.

  • Torcer

    Nobama

    I think you missed my point. Nationalists desire a strong independent nation that fiercely defends its borders, language and culture. That’s the last thing Obama and the global socialists want. For them, it’s all about the global struggle between counties for economic equality. They are seeking Marx’s ultimate goal– world domination.
    https://disqus.com/home/discussion/moonbattery/separated_at_birth_420/#comment-2554078130

    I didn’t use the word you mentioned, the term I used was ‘national’ thus you need to address the proper issue referencing the proper word utilized – TRY AGAIN.

  • Nobama

    You used the phrase ‘national socialists’. That means Nazism to me and many others. Perhaps you need to rephrase what you trying to say. Maybe you should TRY AGAIN.

    Even still, if you meant ‘national’ only in a regional sense, my statement still remains correct. The socialists in the USA all desire a global Marxist-style redistribution of wealth to the 3rd world nations.

  • Torcer

    It is irrelevant what you want to disingenuously change what was said.
    And you have yet to explain this quote:

    Now and then the workers are victorious, but only for a time. The real fruit of their battles lies, not in the immediate result, but in the ever-expanding union of the workers. This union is helped on by the improved means of communication that are created by modern industry and that place the workers of different localities in contact with one another. It was just this contact that was needed to centralise the numerous local struggles, all of the same character, into one national struggle between classes. But every class struggle is a political struggle. And that union, to attain which the burghers of the Middle Ages, with their miserable highways, required centuries, the modern proletarians, thanks to railways, achieve in a few years.

    The Communist Manifesto
    II. BOURGEOIS AND PROLETARIANS Page 18.
    http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-tools/the-communist-manifesto-original-text-t3022.html

    So YOU need to explain that before anything else.
    UNTIL you do, this comment will be repeated.

  • Nobama

    I think we’re talking about 2 different things here. No need for me to explain Marx to you.

    You said this–“Please explain why the national socialist left is so anxious to compete against Trump?”.

    You said ‘national socialist’. Are you going to deny that now?

  • Torcer

    I’m not going to debate you on a long dead thread – I prefer to eviscerate your points in a much more public sphere.
    Thus my answer is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=69627#comment-2556254734

  • Nobama

    Whatever dude. We are taking about 2 different things here. You are just too belligerent to get it.

  • Torcer

    I’m not going to debate you on a long dead thread – I prefer to eviscerate your points in a much more public sphere.
    Thus my answer is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=69627#comment-2556254734

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