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May 20 2016

Top Trump Surrogate Admits That We Will Get Virtual Wall and Virtual Deportations

Trump’s Supreme Court list is hardly the only patently fake promise he has made. Prominent among the others are the Great Wall along the Mexican border and the ejection of illegal aliens. Already we learn that Trump was referring to a virtual wall and virtual deportations:

Rep. Chris Collins was the first member of Congress to endorse Donald Trump. Since then he’s become, rather obviously, quite important to the campaign, and is one of their key surrogates in the media. In an interview with the The Buffalo News [Wednesday], Trump critical ally, first endorser, and top media surrogate told the media outlet that Trump’s big sell items, the “big, beautiful wall” and his “kick them out” policy are just a big show.

“I have called it a virtual wall,” Collins told the paper. “Maybe we will be building a wall over some aspects of it; I don’t know.”

A virtual wall. That is not what the Donald promised. You know what else he didn’t promise? Fake deportations.

But that’s what the suckers who fell for his pitch will get:

“I call it a rhetorical deportation of 12 million people,” Collins said.

He then gestured toward a door in his Capitol Hill office.

“They go out that door, they go in that room, they get their work papers, Social Security number, then they come in that door, and they’ve got legal work status but are not citizens of the United States,” Collins said. “So there was a virtual deportation as they left that door for processing and came in this door.”

Collins added: “We’re not going to put them on a bus, and we’re not going to drive them across the border.”

That’s because Trump’s touchback amnesty scheme would be a silly charade. Why waste the expense and effort of making millions of illegals go touch ground in another country before getting their amnesty?

Touchback amnesty will quickly be shortened to amnesty. Once Trump is in power, what are the dupes who put him there going to do about it? He will be free to revert to his lifelong liberal ways. Remember, this is the guy who proclaimed that Mitt Romney lost in 2012 because Mitt’s call for self-deportation proved that he was “mean-spirited” toward illegal immigrants.

Trump has already hedged on or abandoned virtually every promise that got him where he is. Only where his promises are in line with his own inclinations will he keep his word. That means he is likely to impose economically ruinous tariffs and use the government to silence political dissent, just like he has said he would. It is already obvious that the rest will go straight out the window.

Technically it is not too late to put a genuine Republican on the ballot. But as the great Mark Twain observed,

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On tips from Torcer and MachenSieAmerikaWiederGrosse.



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  • Hillary Clinton as president.
    Donald Trump as president.
    Voters actually supporting either candidate.
    I’m not sure which frightens me more…

  • Nobody Special

    Chris Collins has been on record for a long time stating they he disagrees with Trump on immigration. He disagrees with the wall and deportation, he has interjected his beliefs repeatedly when interviewed. Usually he says he’ll convince Trump to soften on immigration, once Trump “understands” the big picture.

    Collins is not in any way an official spokesperson for the Trump campaign by the way. He may have endorsed him, but so too have many others. Collins is also up for re-election in a blue state, so I think he’s doing a little talking out of both sides of his mouth.

    Last but not least, let’s say it’s all true. Would there be any kind of virtual wall or border protection under a Clinton administration? I think not.

    Sometimes in life you don’t get exactly what you want, most of us deal with it and move on.

  • Stephen

    Dave is a little like the slow kid who’s about to get lapped but thinks he’s ahead of everyone else.

    The ‘virtual deportations’ are pretty much exactly what Cruz proposed in senate hearings (and if you buy Cruz’s spin that it was a poison pill, you really ought to avoid calling other people suckers) and the virtual wall….again not terribly different from Cruz.

    Point being the worst you can say about Trump is that he’s not much better than the next best option on immigration. (Granted since we’re talking about the Republican Party, that’s pretty bad.)

    Of course I won’t be happy if Trump breaks his promise, as will others for whom immigration was a very important issue before August of last year. And considering that Trump was softening his position in debate 1 of last year, this would hardly be a shock.

    But 12 months ago if I told friends or coworkers or anyone else that I wanted to deport illegals, they’d look at me like I’m crazy and claim that nobody in their right mind thinks that way. Today? It’s widely acknowledged that immigration restriction / deportations are very popular and perhaps winning campaign issues. That’s a quantum leap forward no matter what comes out of the rest of this campaign.

  • What a giant pile of BS

  • Occam’s Stubble

    Touchback amnesty will quickly be shortened to amnesty.

    Well like the man said, you gotta make deals.

  • Tom

    Looks like you left out a couple of lines from your “See! SEE! SEE what I mean! TRUMP IS A LIAR! Why won’t you LISTEN to me?” post, the ones immediately after where you stopped:

    “After making those comments, Collins said Trump would surely disagree with them.

    “I’m not speaking for Donald,” Collins said. “Those were my opinions.”

    —————————————————————————
    You’re really getting shrill and desperate….I mean the guy himself – some unknown Congressman from WAY upstate NY – says right there that these are not the views or beliefs of Trump, that they are HIS opinions….but you use the opinions of this Buffalo Back-Bencher as if, yep, STRAIGHT FROM TRUMP’S MOUTH!! HE LIED!!

    Desperation AND deception…not a good combination.

  • ramrodd

    Trump’s Deportation Proposal Isn’t Nazism, It’s A Senate Proposal Called
    ‘Touchback’ Amnesty..

    Marc Thiessen, former speechwriter to George W. Bush, in an appearance on
    The Kelly File, said that what Mr. Trump is saying when he talks about sending them back is an actual amnesty proposal called “Touchback” aka “Touchback Amnesty”. It was a Senate proposal that narrowly missed passage in 2007.

    It was endorsed by the New York Times but the National Review was opposed
    because they called it amnesty. It simply means if illegal immigrants want to
    stay here, they can go back home and then receive expedited approval to come
    back in and stay.

    Marc Thiessen explains in the next video and, as he said, Trump’s rhetoric
    is more fiery than what he’s actually proposing.

  • ramrodd

    Why Didn’t Trump Include His Grand ‘Touchback’ Amnesty Scheme In His
    Immigration Manifesto?

    Answer: Because he knew that revealing this scheme (that he’s been
    talking about on interview after interview since April 14, 2015) would cause a
    Conservative revolt and very likely cost him the GOP nomination, so he simply
    left it out.

    As a result, there is no “touchback” Amnesty mentioned
    nor is there a mention of his wanting to deport all 40 to 60 million illegals in
    the U.S. in his manifesto.

    However, Conservatives and others paying attention will not let Trump off
    the hook re: his Amnesty. We want “the truth”! We want to know “how” he’s going
    to get “touchback” thru both houses of Congress and we want to know how many
    illegals-once-removed he will try to bring back..

    davelevineshow

  • JeffersonSpinningInGrave

    Actually, I never thought the wall was the main thing. The main thing is to remove the incentive to sneak in. Deport any illegal caught for any crime, sure. But beyond that make it impossible for them to work and for f*cks sake stop given them free stuff out of the public treasury. Defund sanctuary cities. Defund “sanctuary” universities like the University of California system. Don’t farking given them free money through the IRS. Don’t let them sign up for Obamacare. All that can be done through executive action, I think. All they have to do is enforce the law. Of course, easier said than done because the Federal Gov has been stuffed with moonbats, and those moonbats won’t automatically vanish if a new Pres takes over (and most of them are very difficult to fire).

  • ramrodd

    Are We Comprehending The Barnhardt Axiom YET??!!

    The fact that a given person is holding or seeking high-level public office is, in and of itself, proof that said person is morally and/or psychologically UNFIT to hold public office.

    The Barnhardt Axiom.

    You realize this applies every bit as strongly to Trump too, right? Tell me you are not so stupid as to believe for one second that Trump would actually do ANY of the things he is talking about. He’s just smart enough to know what y’all want to hear, and is saying it. You know how I know that Trump will never follow through on anything he is saying?

    BECAUSE. HE. IS. RUNNING. FOR. POLITICAL. OFFICE. IN. A. NATION.
    THAT NO. LONGER. EXISTS.

    Remember, the only thing that actually WANTS to be in a cesspit is a

    PIECE OF CRAP.

    http://www.barnhardt.biz/2015/12/19/are-we-comprehending-the-barnhardt-axiom-yet/

  • MAS

    Well said. The very best incentive to leave and never return is to remove all the enticements. With all the enticements in place any wall will be a failure. However getting the big money in politics to allow themselves to be deprived of their source of 21st century slave labor isn’t going to happen without a major struggle. The Donald and those like him need them for cheap labor…no matter how much it costs you and I.

  • Nobama

    What frightens me most of all is an outright Marxist has more support than either Clinton or Trump. I’m afraid our country is finished.

  • MicahStone

    When to go to vote, remember that Trump is also “JUST A SUGGESTION ” !

  • MicahStone

    “But that’s what the suckers who fell for his pitch will get:”

    THE GOOD NEWS: The Trumpsters -i.e., the stupid people- will GET WHAT THEY DESERVE with Trump
    THE BAD NEWS: The rest of us -i.e., the smart people- WILL GET THE SAME –even though we don’t deserve it !!!

  • Bellator

    Seriously? I remember when this blog was great – before it became #nevertrump 24/7. You actually deliberately left out THIS part of the quoted material: “After making those comments, Collins said Trump would surely disagree with them.“I’m not speaking for Donald,” Collins said. “Those were my opinions.””

    So you make a post about what Trump is supposedly going to do by quoting a guy that says Trump will do X, W, and Z, and then ends by saying that Trump would disagree with his opinions. Oh, but you left that part out of your posting.

    It is really sad — this site used to be interesting — now it is just variations on a theme.

  • MAS

    Well thanks for stopping by…here’s your hat and coat. Don’t go away mad, just go away.

  • Jodie

    The problem with your comment, Bellator; is that your name, Bellator? Anywho, the problem is that, those of us who have been here a while and recognize most other commenters names, have seen a whole bunch of new names spewing anti-Dave, pro-Trump garbage. They SAY that they have been coming here for years and they used to enjoy Dave’s posts, but their views of this site have changed. Blah, blah, blah… It is clear that they are only here to promote Trump.

    I for one, am not buyin’ it.

  • 762×51

    What part of “tRump Surrogate” didn’t you understand? If he is going to disavow what he says, immediately after saying it, why did he say it at all? Why hasn’t tRump come out and disagreed with him, or better yet, done one of his famous hatchet jobs on the guy for attributing words to him that “he would disagree with”?

    It is fascinating to watch the Trumpanzee mentality at “work” You would rather shoot the messenger than acknowledge that your boy is a duplicitous fool. I love watching as you idiots parade around shoring up tRumps lies and Progressive positions while still screeching that he will be so much better than Hillary.

    News flash, dog crap would be better than Hillary AND tRump. At least dog crap won’t try to destroy the country and enslave the population.

  • 762×51

    They ALWAYS say they are going to do that, then NEVER follow through on the promise.

    Hey, i may have found the linkage between them and their candidate.

  • 762×51

    P.T. Barnum would be embarrassed to hang out with tRump.

    Also from that era:

    “Never Give a Sucker an Even Break”. staring W.C. Fields, 1941.

  • 762×51

    I agree, and ANY president, would need Congressional approval to accomplish those things. Now watch in horror this Nov. as the mindless Winged Trumpanzee Army re-elects the same GOP dolts that have screwed things up for the last 25 years. It is why his promises are meaningless.

  • 762×51

    We already knew that was his plan, it’s the same plan as the Gang of Eight which he funded. That Gang of Eight was vehemently mocked, scorned and ridiculed on MB by many of the same people who now say it’s OK because it’s tRumps plan.

    People who whine about “how MB has changed” need to look in the mirror. This site has been 100% consistent in applying conservative principles to the facts as they arose. Those that have no principles and would rather be in love with tRump than follow a set of principles are the ones who have changed.

  • 762×51

    Yep, you need to remain “flexible”. In tRumps case, his flexibility involves the country bending over and taking it dry.

  • 762×51

    Cowardice and arrogance isn’t a good combination either yet you flaunt it as if it were. They really are your most noticeable characteristics.

    Nice application of Alinsky Rules though, your radical fascism skills are getting much better. In this particular posting of intellectual pus, you used Alinsky Rules:

    5.“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating.

    6.“A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more.

    10.“If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.”

    12.“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

    You are truly the HIV of intellectual discourse.

  • 762×51

    The nation is finished as a federation of 50 sovereign states, there is no question about that. All that remains is to see how many separate groups of states will unite together once the war is over and the millions of bodies are buried. All of that is inevitable now.

  • ramrodd

    we went down this road….everything i study proves to me there is NO ONE running……..

  • Tom

    You seem very familiar with Alinsky’s Rules…the numbers and everything.
    Now shut the fuck up, dullard.

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  • Nobody Special

    Maybe I can explain, a link to this post popped up on a couple of larger sites as a see we told you Trump is a liar kind of thing. I followed a link here. No, I’m not a regular although I have certainly been to this site several times before, I’ve never commented before or at least I don’t remember commenting here before. However, I’m certainly familiar with this blog and the writer, in fact I’ve linked some of his posts on other sites in the past.

    I followed the link because the headline was shocking, or some might call it click bait, which is exactly what it is. The headline and the post are dishonest and misleading. If someone had posted something similar about a politician you liked, you’d all be frothing at the mouth over the dishonesty.

    I see I’ve stumbled upon a #nevertrump site, so sorry I’ll be on my merry way. I suppose all of you have ordered you “Ready for Hillary” paraphernalia, enjoy!

  • Jodie

    Wait, what??!!?? The headline says exactly what Collins said. How is that “shocking” or “click bait”?

  • Nobody Special

    “Top Trump surrogate says”, implies that someone was speaking on behalf of Donald Trump. Someone from the campaign. Then the post itself implies that Collins is touting some new Trump policy, in fact it starts out stating that supposedly like Trump’s SCOTUS list the promise of a secure border is “patently fake”. BTW the writer has no basis in fact to make the claim that Trump’s SCOTUS list is “patently fake”, except his #nevertrump, butthurt bitterness.

    You know all of that, you know I’m right. Hang out here, drunk on your sour grapes wine. Don’t forget to get your Hillary gear!! I’m sure her SCOTUS picks will be so much more conservative than Trump’s. No doubt Hillary will secure the border too. Gosh based on her stint as SOS, I just can’t wait for her foreign policy. Gun running and wars for everyone!!!! YIPEEE!!!! Last but not least she’s putting NAFTA Bill in charge of the economy!!! Hooray, slave wages for everyone!!!!

    Come November the choice is Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, whether you like it or not.

  • 762×51

    LOL, poor little fascist Progressive, got all flustered when a Conservative exposed his totalitarian tactics. Stomp your feet and tell me to shut up again, I love it when the veins stand out on your forehead, and calling me a dullard while you defend the lies of your boy is priceless!

    I’m very familiar with the Alinsky Rules, we have seen progtard assholes like you use them almost constantly for decades. I intend to expose you at every turn, you will never be rid of me. I will be here to scorn, ridicule and vilify every post you make. You can’t silence me unless you defeat me on the battlefield but you have already demonstrated your cowardice for all here to see. You missed some great training today, CQC and hand to hand combat. I’m sure you were busy though, lots of gay porn piling up on the Internet, someone has to watch it, might as well be you.

    Trumpanzee filth.

  • Tom

    So my gibe about you being unmarried and childless hit the mark, huh?

    How empty and meaningless your barren life must be that I – an anonymous internet user – becomes the focus of your anger…now you’re going to “expose” me at every turn, and scorn, ridicule and vilify “every post I make”, and I will “never be rid of [you]”…you sound like some obsessed ex-girlfriend.

    When I was your age, I was out chasing girls and having fun but you seem to get your jollies not from interactions with the ladies, but obsessing with the comments of ransom folks on the internet.

    Kinda sad that you have nothing else to brighten your dark, dreary existence except for cursing, insulting, and threatening people you don’t even know.

  • Dan Kas

    Hey Bellator I’m with you. I will vote for Trump . Dave Blount is no more than a Hillary or Bernie supporter. I am removing this crap site from my bookmarks. I am sick of what it has become…..or maybe what it always has been…….

  • 762×51

    Ummm, there is no “gibe about you being unmarried and childless”, from you to me. You must be confusing our little exchange with someone else who also finds you be a vile little prick. I expect you get that a lot.

    Yes, you are anonymous, just an Internet keyboard warrior who is all bad ass as long as he remains hidden and who cannot back up his “gibes” in the real world for fear that one of the many people who find you despicable will climb up on your shoulders, pull your empty head off and shit down your neck.

    No doubt you saw a movie about an obsessive ex-girlfriend, being gay, you would have no personal experience with it. I don’t have these types of exchanges with “ransom” I assume you meant “random” people. I have them with Progressive fascist filth like you. It only persists because you are too cowardly to face me in real life. Instead, we must go back and forth with insults all because you have no balls. Too bad you are incapable of growing a pair so we could dispense with this but Progressives are invariable cowards.

    Now, time for you to go to the bath house to put on your daily show.

  • Tom

    First off, my 13 year old says you need a therapist because you sound like you are Shrek and I just entered your swamp. Continuing…

    Oh sure there was…remember? You called me a “dickless wonder” which prompted me to ask how long you’d been married, and how many children you had…remember?
    That REALLY pissed you off because it is obvious to anyone who reads your angry tripe that you are NOT married, and have no children…in fact, you’re still a virgin, aren’t you? Probably never even seen a real poo-say, have you?
    I’d be angry, too, if I were you! How can these chicks resist your intoxicating manliness?

  • Tom

    I think the “Top Trump Surrogate” thing was partly an effort by the local newspaper to make their local-yokel rep. seem more important…

  • 762×51

    That you have children is very disturbing but I suppose even a small dick show pony like you can lucky . . . . . . in an ISIS rape room. Fortunately, the damage should all be at the shallow end of the gene pool. Just be careful and don’t your 13yo find all your gay porn, it may scar him for life and he has enough to deal with having a sniveling coward like you for a father.

    By the way fucktard, MEN spell it pussy and I have seen more than you can imagine, mostly because you are attracted to men, not women. Although you do see a pussy every time you look in the mirror, so . . .

    I pity your children, you are apathetic excuse for a parent and certainly no role model for a boy growing up. I suppose he will be a whiny bitch just like his father, a shame really.

  • Tom

    So to translate: Yes, I AM still a virgin. No, I do not have a girlfriend nor children and no prospects on the horizon…

  • 762×51

    I really can’t make up anything more embarrassing that your clear demonstration of your limited reading comprehension.

    I guess that’s what passes for intellect in your metrosexual, world, right pussy?

    Truly, your posts are the limited mind of a dullard on parade. I’d heard that in the Progressive era, stupid had been raised to an art form, just never thought I meet the inventor.

  • Tom

    Go away, Angry Virgin Elf….Go find a nice “girl” who will put up with your ignoramus-ass BS. Find something to occupy your time besides haranguing people who you don’t know.
    IOW, get a life…I HAVE a life…married, with two fine handsome sons to carry on my name.

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