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Jul 27 2016

Putin Tries to Play Kingmaker in American Politics

No one needs to tell me that Hillary is awful; she is corrupt to the core, incompetent, and eager to impose an ideology fundamentally opposed to the principles that made America great, as I have been documenting for years. But Shrillary aside, what engaged adult would truly want Donald Trump to be President of the United States? I can think of only one: Trump’s idol, Vladimir Putin.

One of the Soviet Union’s most effective strategies was disinformation. For details, read Disinformation by Ion Mihai Pacepa, the highest ranking Soviet bloc intelligence official to defect to the West. The book makes it clear that disinformation was a major priority for the KGB. Russia is now ruled by a former KGB lieutenant colonel. It is hardly surprising that it continues to use disinformation against its archrival, the USA.

Currently, the immediate objective of Russian disinformation is to elect the malleable, clueless, pro-Russian fool Donald Trump:

Russia’s troll factories were, at one point, likely being paid by the Kremlin to spread pro-Trump propaganda on social media.

That is what freelance journalist Adrian Chen, now a staff writer at The New Yorker, discovered as he was researching Russia’s “army of well-paid trolls” for an explosive New York Times Magazine exposé published in June 2015.

“A very interesting thing happened,” Chen told Longform‘s Max Linsky in a podcast in December.

“I created this list of Russian trolls when I was researching. And I check on it once in a while, still. And a lot of them have turned into conservative accounts, like fake conservatives. I don’t know what’s going on, but they’re all tweeting about Donald Trump and stuff,” he said.

So that’s where all the Trump trolls come from.

Why not? Due to Trump’s influence, the GOP platform has already pulled the rug out from under the Ukraine. Trump has indicated that NATO treaty or not, he might not defend the Baltic states from Russian invasion. His campaign manager Paul Manafort is in very deep with the Russians; he used to work for Viktor Yanukovych, a Russian puppet who apparently aspired to be the Ukrainian Vidkun Quisling.

As Putin moves to reconstitute the Soviet Empire, there is no one he would rather have in the White House than his fanboy Trump. This is why Russia hacked into the Democratic National Committee, causing acrimony among Democrats with the release of embarrassing emails in a textbook example of information warfare.

The Cold War is not over.

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Putin could play Trump like a balalaika.

On a tip from Wilberforce.



  • dollar bill

    I don’t care where the e-mails came from I want to know about clinton and the dmc paying bloogers to trash bernie and trump. how much are they paying you?

  • KirklesWorth

    Is there any negative trait that you think Trump doesn’t have? Not embarrassed that you sound like the liberal left? Ready to hand the White House keys over to the Clintons? How about if you spare us the same garbage we get from the leftwing media and post pragmatically?

  • mikey7777

    No one needs to tell me that OBAMA is awful; he is corrupt to the core, incompetent, and eager to impose an ideology fundamentally opposed to the principles that made America great, .FIXED IT FOR YOU.He started all this BS and you probably voted for him because he is half black.But just ignore him because you don’t want to be called “raycissss”.

  • dollar bill

    now we have moon battery for hillary.

  • ramrodd

    Using the ISIS Threat to Build the U.S.-Russia Partnership

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuIKZK45XuQ

  • ramrodd

    Obama caught on mic saying “After My Election I Have More Flexibility” –
    YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYGsadcBiFA

  • Satan or what?

    .

    I’m not in favor of a reconstituted Russian Empire, but if Hitlery gets in.. get ready for the Caliphate… Huma, OBAMA, VJ, ISIS the SOWdis, iran and many others are chomping at the bit to make it happen.. Hitlery has already stated that she will import many times more moslems than even Obama is doing right now.. and at the same time she will disarm US, in order to make us defenseless against this imported moslem army, housed, clothed and fed at all our expense.. compared to that I’ll take my chances with Russia anytime.

    .

  • 762×51

    Is there any level of deceit that your cult worship will not engage in to further your agenda of authoritarian statism?

    How about if you spare us your continued existence by stepping in front of a bus?

    I don’t recall smelling you around here before this month. Why don’t you just get the fuck out of here if you don’t like it? The answer to that is because you are more interested in advancing your fascist agenda than you are in not having to here opposing viewpoints. Same reason that all of you Trumpanzee vermin come here day after boring day to regurgitate your cult leaders words.

  • Wilberforce

    Heh, check out the predictable, half-wit replies this generated, Dave.

    As usual, you’re right over the target.

  • NotKennedy

    In English, we would hand the keys to…. your English is good, for a foreigner.

  • KirklesWorth

    Funny how condescending “Republicans Against Trump” are. Comfy that they won’t be blamed for Hillary because “it wasn’t their fault” nor blamed for Trump because “it wasn’t their fault”. This isn’t McCain vs. Obama where there was a hair’s difference between them – we are talking about the sellouts of our country the Clintons vs a pro-American businessman who’d worst offenses seem to be doing what a businessman has to do to stay in business – including supporting leftist issues and politicians. Reagan was RINO on paper too.

  • KirklesWorth

    What the devil are you talking about?

  • NotKennedy

    “I didn’t leave the Democratic party, the Democratic Party left me.”
    RR, 1962

    Trump IS a democrat. Hillary is a leftist extremist, and an Alinsky socialist. Democrats were not always socialists.

    It is one thing to be bitten by a rat snake but quite another to be bitten by venomous serpent. Choosing between the lesser of evil is not always fraught with ambiguity, even if it is disgusting.

  • KirklesWorth

    Back again 762×51? Spare us your requests to spare you from anything. And don’t worry, everybody can smell you.

    Interesting that you aren’t aware of the irony of decrying “authoritarian statism” while simultaneously ordering me to “get the f__k out”.

    Oh no…762×51 is afraid of a “Trump fascist agenda”. How awful! Will he murder kitties and puppies too?

    And what about you RATs (Republicans Against Trump)? How are you going to save us all from all the tyranny that would be Hillary or Trump? Explain how a Clinton presidency would be better for us…? Bueller? Bueller?

    I don’t see any “regurgitation” of any “cult leaders words”. Must be that fertile (read crappy) imagination.

  • NotKennedy

    That you sound like a Russian troll! Even if you aren’t, you are not likely to persuade anybody around here that Trump is other than what he is. Conservatives don’t want him.

    On the uptick, it’s a couple of months before the election, maybe Hillary will have an aneurysm or Trump will “sleep in”.

    This is a shitful election cycle with the dregs-from-hell “choices”. The only decision anyone really has to make is whether to do anything imaginable to keep a Clinton out of government. It’s easier to take the poison, in that context.

  • Wilberforce

    Interesting.

    I’m not a Republican. Either way, please sell me the Constitutionalst candidate that is Donald Trump.

    I don’t want any hand-waving or magical thinking, just convince me.

    Go.

  • KirklesWorth

    I am sorry for your selective memory, but I must ask if you are saying (1) Reagan didn’t sign the Therapeutic Abortion Act? (2) Reagan didn’t raise taxes more than $1 billion during his term as governor? (3) Reagan didn’t sign the Immigration Reform and Control Act while president which led to a rise in illegal immigration? (4) Reagan wasn’t an ardent supporter of FDR and the “New Deal”? (5) Reagan didn’t want to ban homosexuals from teaching in public schools?

    “Choosing between the lesser of (two) evils”, “picking your poison”, etc. is something adults do. Failure to pick is a decision as well and has its own consequences.

  • NotKennedy

    Exactly. Ridding the nation of Islam is a dire matter.

  • KirklesWorth

    Simple. Trump is the republican candidate. QED. If you can’t wrap your head around that versus a Clinton tyranny, then any defense of Trump would be a waste of time.

  • NotKennedy

    Serve your master. Reagan is long gone. I wish as much could be said of the Clintons and Trump.

    Don’t apologize for my memory, you’re the one beating a drum for Trump. The closest he has ever come to being a republican is having an r in his family name.

  • NotKennedy

    Troll on the prowl.

  • Wilberforce

    Translation: “I’ve got nothing.”

    Thanks for playing.

  • KirklesWorth

    You are one paranoid weirdo. Tell your “Conservatives don’t want him” to the polls.

    Your before-the-fact conspiracy theories are entertaining and all, but forgive me if I don’t take an ounce of stock in them.

  • KirklesWorth

    And the candidate we should be voting for is…?

  • THOUGHTCRIMINAL2084

    We have been sold out. The Clinton Mafia not only sells us out, they barter our bodies like cattle as sacrifices to the moslem gods of war and terror.

  • Wilberforce

    Lol, this awesome watching the actors perform in real time 🙂

  • KirklesWorth

    You sure are quick to fire off the “troll” comments against people who don’t share your “unique” perspective. I support the republican candidate, so it sounds to me that you would be acting more like the troll, no?

  • KirklesWorth

    Yep…as entertaining as listening to the RATs complain with no better alternative. What a laugh!

  • THOUGHTCRIMINAL2084

    Putin likely has the only surviving copy of Hillary’s emails – it is an amusing if not frighteningly appropriate tactic.

  • KirklesWorth

    Um, number one, don’t order me around. Number two, your ridiculous “master” comment is a pathetic stretch. Number three, keep avoiding your errors when I just proved you wrong about Reagan being a RINO on paper.

  • NotKennedy

    I asked nothing of you and offered you nothing. That makes us equal. You have brought NOTHING to the conversation. Serve your master.

  • KirklesWorth

    I’d swear I was debating with liberals. You hysterically claim “That you sound like a Russian troll!”, complain about everything without a solution, and declare that I am the one bringing NOTHING to the conversation? And stop bossing me around.

  • NotKennedy

    Get a box of tissue and go chant his name to yourself, privately.

  • Wilberforce

    Dance, monkey, dance! You are great entertainment 🙂

  • KirklesWorth

    Thanks, as are you. In a sad, pathetic way. But I’ll be sure to listen once your brilliant mind tells us lemmings what to do!

  • NotKennedy

    No.

  • Wilberforce

    Why, Vladimir Putin!

  • KirklesWorth

    Of course. Perfect non-answer answer. I salute you!

  • Wilberforce

    Thank you, Comrade! Collect your ration of bread now!

  • NotKennedy

    Go ahead, whisper it… trump… mmm, mmmmm, mmmmm Trump, mmm, mmmmm, mmmmmm TRUMP!

    Let’s see you a Trump dance!

  • NotKennedy

    Privates and Second Lieutenants. Salute everything until you finally figure out what is what and who is who.

  • KirklesWorth

    You guys are just too clever for me! I can’t believe the hoops you will jump through to avoid a simple question like “who should we vote for?” If I didn’t know that we were in a “right-wing” forum, I’d claim it almost sounds disingenuous.

  • Wilberforce

    They’re cultists, nothing more. Pathetic creatures, yes, just mock them for sport.

  • KirklesWorth

    But I can’t without you to tell me who to vote for!

  • KirklesWorth

    Hmm, bossy, condescending…sounds like Obama and Hillary. Must be my imagination.

  • KirklesWorth

    I guess in order to be a “cultist”, you have to have a leader…so you aren’t “cultists” then, because you have nobody, right?

  • Johnny Monday

    First the Republicans boo freedom, the constitution, and conscience. Now they’re pro-Kremlin. I’m ashamed I voted R all those years. No more.

  • Johnny Monday

    Drumpf is not pro-American. He’s pro-himself. If you believe anything he says you’re a rube.

  • NotKennedy

    I care less who you vote for or how many times.

  • Noel

    Putin – Nationalist, Christian, White, Male, Heterosexual, What is there not to hate.

  • NotKennedy

    You have an active imagination. Go with it!

  • KirklesWorth

    But of course. Now the indifference because you just can’t tell me who I should be voting for. Classic!

  • NotKennedy

    Hoops? Haha, call Reggie! Or, you could always abstain. Then, again, the libs will already have voted for you, several times, in several states.

  • KirklesWorth

    Please make up my mind for me! You have convinced me that you know what’s best and that it’s not Trump…so who is it?

  • Wilberforce

    I swear, you are the best parody troll I’ve seen in a long time, and that’s saying something. Lots of upvotes coming your way 🙂

  • NotKennedy

    You sound like a Hillary sort but seem to be really stuck back in the Carter era. Maybe you could just write-in a vote for Jimmy, as matter tribute to a great Georgian.

  • KirklesWorth

    Sounds like projection to me. I support the republican candidate, ask who the RATs think is better and get nothing…just where is this “trolling” of which you speak?

  • Wilberforce

    “Christian.”

    Lol.

  • NotKennedy

    It really has become difficult to distinguish the Rs from the socialists. Hell, just go with Paul Ryan, he’s become just about everything, depending on who he’s talking to. Or, there’s always Rubio, he goes both ways, a real belt-loop Schumer bitch if you wanted one.

  • KirklesWorth

    Right! Just keep casting those aspersions at the wall and try and see if any of them stick. I am defending trump, you are anti-Trump, yet somehow I am the “Hillary sort”? And then you desperately throw in Carter?

  • Wilberforce

    Still haven’t answered my question up above.

    Why is that, parody troll? 🙂

  • NotKennedy

    I knew you’d get excited about that one! RR stoled that election just like a thief!

  • KirklesWorth

    You set the example of not answering questions, not that I want to make you look hypocritical or anything. My unanswered question before yours was: “You have convinced me that you know what’s best and that it’s not Trump…so who is it?”

  • NotKennedy

    Yeah, Trump is a Podesta class Republican.

  • NotKennedy

    At this point, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? Go with the Butcher of Benghazi, she really works well with guys and the girls seem to love her too.

  • Wilberforce

    Me? I’m writing in Cruz with a clear conscience and proudly so.

    Now, make the case that Trump is a Constitutionalist. Answer me.

  • KirklesWorth

    Okay, that’s what I needed to hear. That helps illustrate where you are politically. You must be here just to be argumentative – not to forward any right-wing principles.

  • KirklesWorth

    I don’t have to “make the case” about anything. You can waste your vote on Cruz just like I can vote for Trump. If Cruz wins, I’ll be okay. If Trump wins, I’ll be okay. If Hillary wins, I will be asking why Cruz voters didn’t vote for Trump.

  • NotKennedy

    I think Putin probably has more money, more jets, more villas, even than John Kerry and he seems to like animals. I’ve seen pictures of him riding bears and horses, trout fishing and laughing at Obama. Well, yeah, all the world laughs at Obama but at least Putin has a sense of humor–something that will never be said about Hillary.

  • MicahStone

    Will the real Trump please raise his hand?

  • KirklesWorth

    It’s easy to criticize – but what is your solution?

  • NotKennedy

    Are we not Trump?

    We are DEVO!

  • KirklesWorth

    Quoting Hillary, eh? Interesting. So you are advocating Hillary over Trump? I just want to make absolutely sure…

  • Wilberforce

    Again, no case made. Because you can’t, and for all to see.

    Still, thanks for the screenshots.

  • NotKennedy

    The FBI probably has them, as well, but they have chosen to protect her.

  • KirklesWorth

    So, it’s your way or the highway, eh? Even when I state that I’d be good with Cruz, you’ll criticize? Interesting. Shall I list the reasons why Cruz lost the nomination and would have a difficult time being president?

  • NotKennedy

    Not forwarding anything, only rebutting trolls and that, only for my own amusement. Politcally, I am a right wing extremist, John Birch would have avoided me, if he had ever been a member of the John Birch Society.

  • NotKennedy

    Term limits.

  • NotKennedy

    Only for you. You gotta know who you’re dealing with in sensitive matters of online political discourse.

  • KirklesWorth

    You mean for politicians in general, right? Because presidents already have term limits. I would be on board with that. Since you already told me to vote for Hillary, I won’t ask your opinion about that any more.

  • KirklesWorth

    So sensitive that you have to give me mock answers in order to avoid the question “You have convinced me that you know what’s best and that it’s not Trump…so who is it?” I didn’t realize it was so difficult for you. My apologies.

  • KirklesWorth

    Funny, I’m the one being attacked, but somehow I’m the “troll”? I’m the one defending the republican candidate against those who have no better answers and I’m the “troll”? I’m the one asking questions and getting mock responses and I’m the “troll”? Sounds like projection to me.

  • NotKennedy

    Apologetics has not been shown to be your strong suite but, not to worry, Trump is everything you could have hoped for. I’ll not have to struggle with the matter, living in New England, the ballots are already complete, it only remains to count out the days until the electoral college gets together and does the deal.

  • NotKennedy

    How did term limits restrict FDR?

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  • KirklesWorth

    As sincerity is not your strong suit. But putting that aside, it was nice of you to concede that there is no better choice than Trump in this scenario.

  • Grumpy Cat

    Heard this all before. YAWN.

  • NotKennedy

    Republican candidate? Haha, Well, Ok, maybe you are part of that new-age millennial republicanism. Without Hillary there would be no Trump.

  • Grumpy Cat

    YAWN.

  • Wilberforce

    I know, right?

  • NotKennedy

    To the contrary! Abstinence is a virtue. I concede nothing to you nor the villains of the RNC that made this possible. Were it in my ability I would propose secession. It was the right thing at the time and more urgent now than then.

  • KirklesWorth

    A product of public schools, eh? Well, if you would have been taught proper history, the 22nd Amendment limits the president’s overall time of service and was ratified on February 27, 1951, which is after FDR’s terms from March 4, 1933 – April 12, 1945. You’re welcome.

  • KirklesWorth

    I guess you must not be a fan of the democratic process then, eh? Not respectful of the will of the voters? That’s sad…no wonder you want to secede. Well, no need to be pragmatic when you can be idealistic, right?

  • NotKennedy

    After the fact. You’re welcome. While I have not questioned your credentials, I remain confident with my own. There are more than a few versions of history but you already know all about that, undoubtedly.

  • KirklesWorth

    So, you don’t even acknowledge a simple fact? This is really a shame. Sounds like Joe Biden claiming there is no fracture in the democratic party. Trump is the republican candidate regardless of your claims. But maybe counseling would help you deal with reality…?

  • NotKennedy

    The Electoral College is other than democratic? How so? Don’t be so sad and apologetic, so often. It makes you sound like a democrat. Be proud, boastful, be like Trump!

  • NotKennedy

    O’Biden is your ready inspiration? I bet he is just biding his time, waiting for something to happen and he’ll be able to schlep in there and rescue all of those folks from the chains.

    Trump is not a republican but you’re becoming more convincing with each new retort.

  • KirklesWorth

    Now you are evading your own statement? I asked you “It’s easy to criticize – but what is your solution?” You replied “Term limits”. I gave you some wiggle room regarding politicians in general vs presidents, but you stuck with presidents. Since term limits have been in place for over half a century, your term limits “solution” was useless and already in place – so why are you complaining since you already have what you want?

  • KirklesWorth

    You have a reading comprehension problem too? I compared something you said to something he said. YOU inspired me to make the comparison to him.

    Whether Trump passes your subjective “republican purity test” is irrelevant to the November election – Trump is the de-facto republican candidate regardless if you label him “not a republican”. Sorry.

  • KirklesWorth

    Google: “Democratic Process” – “A democratic process is a practice that allows democracy to exist. Democracy is based on the idea that everyone should have equal rights and be allowed to participate in making important decisions.”

    There is no criteria about the particulars involved, so my statement stands. If you have a problem with the electoral college, then I would be there with you. But just as Trump is our republican candidate, the electoral college is part of the democratic process. So no need to subjectively comment about me being “sad”, “apologetic”, “sounding like a democrat”, etc. and stick to the subject. It’s not my fault that I have to correct you on your ill-informed claims.

  • NotKennedy

    It was not what I wanted, you are not the arbiter nor ombudsman of what will discussed or how it will be discussed.

    The topic remains that Putin is enjoying a mockery of democracy. Why not? Trump and Hillary are nothing more than a mockery of democracy.

    Twelve years, maximum. Six terms in the House, two terms in the Senate, three and two, you work the permutations anyway you like. Executive office is sufficiently regulated, after the debacle of FDR–who died in bed with a harlot.

    Congress would convene no more days than any state’s general assembly. No more than 120 days in session, no session longer than 60 days. Mandatory residence in the district from where they were elected… lots and lots of limits.

  • Noel

    More so than any of our politicians, US or Western Europe.

  • NotKennedy

    You are sorry, as will everyone be if Trump prevails. The sorrow is only a matter of degree. However, you seem to an effective advocate for Trumpism. Have you sold automobiles?

  • NotKennedy

    There is no “our”. Objectivity was never a parameter. You are not the topic, nor am I, which has never been a problem for Trump because he, in his own mind (and yours) is all that has ever mattered.

    As you know, members of the Electoral College are supposed to represent the majority of the persons whom they purport to represent. Al Gore was less convinced of that process and Trump-like democrats invented all kinds of new language to prove that democracy was other than the way it operated.

  • KirklesWorth

    Where the devil are you distracting this conversation to now? What are these red herrings about “arbiter” or “ombudsman” or “what or how it will be discussed”?

    “Putin is enjoying a mockery of democracy.” Is he? Okay, if you say so. So what? What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Am I supposed to temper my vote on what Putin supposedly thinks?

    “Trump and Hillary are nothing more than a mockery of democracy”. Are they? How so? Are they not following the traditions and rules our soldiers fought and died for? Sounds a little over-the-top to me. I will concede that it is not all on the up-and-up, but I am eager to hear what your solutions would be – aside from term limits.

    Why are you’re going back to FDR as if it’s relevant? That was fixed over a century ago. And you claimed I was “stuck in the Carter era”?

    I don’t necessarily have a problem with your other political limits.

  • DM

    There are many things I don’t like about Trump, but he is the only candidate who has brought up the immigration/invasion issue. The govt is forcing so called refugees upon us who for the most part belong to a religious/political ideology that hates our way of life.
    Trump has declared that our southern border should be protected and that the flood of muslim “refugees” should be stopped until it can be determined that it is safe. I tend to believe that means never since it will never be safe to allow our country to be invaded by an army enemies.

    Strange isn’t it we are so seldom given decent people as candidates. Unfortunately it takes and SOB to gain traction in the political arena. So we are faced with deciding which SOB is most likely to frighten our enemies out of their skins this time around. And it seems to me that frightening our enemies is one of the big things this time around. We have been saddled for the last 7+ years with either a weak cistern or quisling. It matters not which he is, the damage has been done and it must be repaired by someone who will not genuflect to savages and criminals. If it is not repaired we have no hope of saving our country. Clinton will only continue in the foot steps of the Quisling in Chief. None of our enemies fear her.

    When asked after the signing of the Declaration of Independence what kind of government we now would have, Benjamin Franklin answered: “A Republic, if you can keep it.”.

  • KirklesWorth

    You are just all over the map. If you are not a U.S. citizen, then I apologize for calling it “our”. Why are you attempting to point out the topic when it is you who keeps going off on tangents?

    Your comments about the electoral college may be true. Now if you can somehow link it to how its Trumps fault, we’d be back on topic.

  • NotKennedy

    Were you not hoping to redirect the conversation, with a side order of castigation? Reread your own retort, to which I replied, essentially declining to allow your control of the conversation.

    A century ago? Mmmhmm.

  • NotKennedy

    Did the democratic process allude you? Tangents? What? Now you want to do math?

  • KirklesWorth

    You should really cite what you are referring to. My replies were to your inquiries, so I’m going to call B.S. on “redirect”. However, I am guilty of castigation regarding your denial of the facts.

    And you are right…I forgot to type “half-“century. My bad. Good catch. I will concede the error and correct the posting. You are only stuck 50-60 years ago, not 100 years ago.

  • KirklesWorth

    Sure, I’m game. Although I think the democratic process alludes you, since you are the one in denial. I’m sorry to point this out, but you just can’t disclaim everything in life you don’t like. “Tangents?” Is not very specific – please clarify.

  • KirklesWorth

    Welcome to life, where we all have to live with our decisions (or lack thereof). Since you won’t tell me what a better decision would be than for voting for Trump, guess what the logical conclusion is? Nope, not-voting would have worse consequences in my humble opinion.

  • NotKennedy

    When did you become the arbiter of what may or may not be disclaimed? I am not compelled to choose between Trump and Clinton. You introduced tangents in your previous reply. Voting against Hillary is not a sufficient imperative to characterize Trump in any manner as you seem wont to do.

    If you like that boy, run with it. He and Tom Harkins could sit at the same table and be about as interesting.

  • Sweep_the_leg_11590

    Give up, Kirk. This place has become NRO on crack. Any deviation from Dave (Little Green Footballs) Blount and it’s a Liberal shout down with “Troll!”, being the cleverest ad hom. I don’t think they WANT Hillary, but so much spittle has accumulated that they are drowning in their own goo. They are trying to “save” a party that abandoned Conservatives decades ago. Is Trump the best? Probably not. But they believe, TRULY believe that Hillary is the better alternative. There is no reasoning with them…

  • Metro Miketrop

    No, for you it isn’t Putin, it’s Hillary. You are a RAT through and through.

  • NotKennedy

    Trump is your guy! Serve him well. Jim Morrison wrote a book, the title of which may have been, No One Here Gets Out Alive. He probably has about as much authority on that topic as you have about Trump!

  • KirklesWorth

    So, my open ended question about what your solution is somehow gets constricted into making you “choose between Trump and Clinton”? I had no idea I had such manipulative abilities. You could have said SMOD or Deez Nutz as far as that goes.

    “You introduced tangents in your previous reply”…you are saying it again without citing. I have said a lot of things, so I would appreciate you citing what you are referring to.

    “Voting against Hillary is not a sufficient imperative to characterize Trump in any manner as you seem wont to do.” That is your subjective opinion, as is my contrary opinion. Voting against someone is counted the same way as voting for someone, so it’s imperative is “sufficient”.

    I am running with that boy, because nobody has persuaded me that there is a better alternative. I’m not letting idealism get in the way of pragmatism. It’s not going to mean a hill of beans if Hillary opens the borders to illegal immigrants and jihadists in the long run anyway.

  • NotKennedy

    Aha. SNOD Deez Nutz and “thanks for all the fish”!

  • KirklesWorth

    Thanks Sweep_the_leg_11590. I went to bat for you on the other thread you were attacked on. I know they are projecting most of what they claim, but I just want to show they are trying to masquerade their irrationality as virtue. These anti-Trump right-wingers would chop off their nose to spite their face by not voting Trump, and then blame the rest of us if Hillary was elected. She’d attack the 1st and 2nd amendments and open the borders to illegals, migrants and jihadis and these kinds of conversations would become no more. I believe in pragmatism over idealism.

  • KirklesWorth

    If Trump becomes MY guy in November, guess what? He becomes YOUR guy too! Aren’t you lucky! Maybe you can save us from our own bad decisions for telling us who we should vote for…?

  • Torcer

    Trust me, I’ve asked our comrade here that question repeatedly with no answers forthcoming..

    That should speak volumes..

  • Torcer

    Anti-Trump Republicans: Left Out of the Party
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbbaWU8vOow

    “And I don’t understand why I should hold the Republican nominee for president to a lower standard than I hold my 5-year-old.
    You don’t call people names.
    You don’t bully people.”

    Christine Gunderson Former RNC spokeswoman

    Add to that you don’t Lie to people and it perfectly encapsulates most of the reasons people initially opposed the man..

    ..of course, these days Trump is doing his level best to add to the list by the hour..

  • KirklesWorth

    Welcome Torcer…starting off with your first lie of the day. I will ask you a variation on a question I asked you on the other thread that you never answered: “What candidate should I vote for?”

  • KirklesWorth

    Another copy-and-paste job…my favorite. So let’s start with the obvious question: “Who should we vote for?”

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth
    Welcome Torcer…starting off with your first lie of the day. I will ask you a variation on a question I asked you on the other thread that you never answered: “What candidate should I vote for?”

    Please post an excerpt of when you have answered that question.
    Let’s see you backup that incendiary lie.

  • KirklesWorth

    Are you sure you want to ask that question?

    “Apparently you are confused regarding “having so much trouble arguing arguing [sic] in favour of Donald?” with not being inclined to give you my reasons. Kind of like your refusal to name a better choice than Trump. I will be voting for the republican candidate…is that not sufficient?”

    Oops.

  • Torcer

    That’s a personal choice.
    Peyton Manning perhaps?
    What are your reasons to vote for Trump aside from Comrade Clinton.

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth
    Welcome Torcer…starting off with your first lie of the day. I will ask you a variation on a question I asked you on the other thread that you never answered: “What candidate should I vote for?”

    Please post an excerpt of when you have answered that question.
    Let’s see you backup that incendiary lie.

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth
    Welcome Torcer…starting off with your first lie of the day. I will ask you a variation on a question I asked you on the other thread that you never answered: “What candidate should I vote for?”

    Please post an excerpt of when you have answered that question.
    Let’s see you backup that incendiary lie.

  • Torcer

    Everyone please note that our comrade here couldn’t even bring herself to address the point of my comment.

  • Torcer

    Please not that comrade ‘KirklesWorth’ tends to utilize the very same tactics and techniques used by the SJW’s.

  • KirklesWorth

    Here, since you must not be wearing your glasses, I will point it out again:

    “Apparently you are confused regarding “having so much trouble arguing arguing [sic] in favour of Donald?” with not being inclined to give you my reasons. Kind of like your refusal to name a better choice than Trump. I will be voting for the republican candidate…is that not sufficient?”

  • Sweep_the_leg_11590

    Same. I hated the “choices” we were given against the street N Bwana Hussein BOTH times. These same NeoCons told us “sure they suck, but OBAMA??? I held my nose and voted for them though, knowing he was poison to this fading country, and knowing that the whole “GOP” thing was FUBAR at best, and a sham at worst. Hillary will literally kill us all with her Jihadi’s, but hey, their “pride” is at stake, AND they get to save the traitorous GOP. Best of luck Kirk…

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth
    ” not being inclined to give you my reasons.”

    That was in response to an inquiry on selling the Constitutionalst candidate that is Donald Trump.

    And here our comrade refuses to answer and stated as much.
    So much for it’s spurious accusations.

  • KirklesWorth

    Don’t lie by omission…post the whole quote!

    Apparently you are confused regarding “having so much trouble arguing arguing [sic] in favour of Donald?” with not being inclined to give you my reasons.

    “Constitutional candidate” is a red herring you threw in (per usual). You need to cite where I claimed Trump was a “Constitutional candidate”.

  • Torcer

    That is irrelevant to the issue – you have FAILED to back up your incendiary lie.

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth
    ” not being inclined to give you my reasons.”

    That was in response to an inquiry on selling the Constitutionalst candidate that is Donald Trump.

    And here our comrade refuses to answer and stated as much.
    So much for it’s spurious accusations..

  • KirklesWorth

    So, are you claiming you are a liar? Notice how my question never gets answered. And then let’s recap:

    Torcer: “Trust me, I’ve asked our comrade here that question repeatedly with no answers forthcoming..That should speak volumes..”

    Kirklesworth: “Welcome Torcer…starting off with your first lie of the day. I will ask you a variation on a question I asked you on the other thread that you never answered: “What candidate should I vote for?”

    Torcer: (dodging the question) “Please post an excerpt of when you have answered that question. Let’s see you backup that incendiary lie.”

    Kirlesworth: “Are you sure you want to ask that question? “Apparently you are confused regarding “having so much trouble arguing arguing [sic] in favour of Donald?” with not being inclined to give you my reasons. Kind of like your refusal to name a better choice than Trump. I will be voting for the republican candidate…is that not sufficient?” On a side note, curious spelling of “favour”. as it has a distinct Canadian flavour…are you a U.S. citizen? Oops.

  • KirklesWorth

    As much as you are attempting to copy and paste only tiny snippets from our previous discussions in an attempt to misrepresent the discussion, why don’t you copy and paste your answer to my very first question…”And your superior candidate is…?” Oh that’s right, because you gave no answer to copy and paste. “Strawman”?

    Anyone who wants to review who refused to answer questions first and who answered more questions can just pop on over to http://moonbattery.com/?p=74242#.

  • KirklesWorth

    Because Trump is a better candidate than Peyton Manning.

  • Swordie

    America deserves Trump.

  • Torcer

    Face it – you failed to backup your incendiary accusation.

  • Torcer

    And?

  • Torcer

    And as before you FAILED to back up your spurious accusation..

  • Torcer

    Did you or did you not tacitly refuse to Answer that question by me or others?

  • Torcer

    So copying and pasting is Okay when you do it?

  • Torcer

    Why does Putin want to influence US politics?

    Why are his trolls infesting these threads attacking anyone who dares express an opinion on Trump but cannot detail the reasons they favor a certain candidate aside from certain superficialities?

    Their actions only reinforce the validity of the article.

  • Torcer
  • Tchhht!!!

    Lao…Lao…LAO!!! Please come back and return us to sanity.

  • THOUGHTCRIMINAL2084

    For good reason.. look at what happened to Ron Brown and Vince Foster when they stopped going along with the Clinton Mafia.

  • True Story

    Err, you mean CAT: Conservatives Against Trump

    The RATS are the Republicans Assisting Trump

  • True Story

    Did you just get “triggered”?

  • True Story

    Uh, Trumpers really shouldn’t be accusing others of engaging in conspiracy theories. Look, you can slobber over Trump all you want, but don’t pretend he is some virtuous hero coming to save the day from the forces of evil. He’s just slightly fresher than Clinton, because he’s been around politics and and politicians his entire adult life. If you are voting against Hillary, fine, do it, but don’t you wish you could’ve had someone to vote FOR?

  • True Story

    Whoa, calm down there buddy. “Truggered” is no way to go through life.

  • True Story

    It’s CAT. Conservatives Against Trump.

    Don’t forget, the GOP left us, we aren’t republicans anymore, through no choice of our own.

    RATs: Republicans Assisting Trump

  • True Story

    Why are you asking that question NOW?

    You should have thought about that before hand.

    You can vote against anyone you want, but if you can’t articulate a reason to vote FOR someone, you are part of the problem, part of the go along to get along establishment.

    In other words, you are the epitome of a cuck. Trump hijacked your party and you like it.

  • KirklesWorth

    How else does one comply with your demand “Please post an excerpt of when you have answered that question”?

  • KirklesWorth

    Sure I have. Deny it all you want. What’s the harm in lies to cover up lies?

  • KirklesWorth

    “And” what? Me posting “Because Trump is a better candidate than Peyton Manning” is one explanation more than you have posted about your non-existent (assuming Peyton Manning is a joke) candidate.

  • KirklesWorth

    Please cite these “unanswered questions”. Please answer “What candidate should I vote for?”

  • KirklesWorth

    Please cite your “inquiry on selling the Constitutionalst [sic] candidate that is Donald Trump”. Please prove your incendiary accusations.

  • KirklesWorth

    Better yet, the Saudi Arabians would make much better overlords…

  • KirklesWorth

    Please lead the way by detailing the reasons you favor a certain candidate.

  • KirklesWorth

    Since I don’t know how you are meaning “triggered” in context, I’ll say no in general.

  • KirklesWorth

    Don’t be modest Torcer, we all know that you are the king/queen of the “tactics and techniques used by the SJW’s”. After all, SJWs are anti-Trump – just like you!

    “com·rade” /käm?rad,’kämr/ (noun)

    (1) a companion who shares one’s activities or is a fellow member of an organization. synonyms: companion, friend;
    (2) a fellow soldier or member of the armed services. comrade-in-arms
    (3) a fellow socialist or communist (often as a form of address).

    If you are calling me “comrade” for reason (1), thanks friend.
    If you are calling me “comrade” for reason (2), you are wrong.
    If you are calling me “comrade” for reason (3), then you must be a socialist or communist while I am not – but I can still be your friend.

  • KirklesWorth

    Please cite any “slobbering over Trump” I am guilty of. Please cite any “pretending he is some virtuous hero, etc.”. “He’s just slightly fresher than Clinton” sounds like you agree with my decision to vote for Trump, which makes you a “Trumper”, so why are you busting my stones? “…don’t you wish you could’ve had someone to vote FOR” – we can wish all we want – to what end? I’d be better off wishing to win the lottery.

  • KirklesWorth

    Here, let me Google that for you: https://www.republicansagainsttrump.org/

  • True Story

    That’s cool, but I like mine better.

  • True Story

    Wait, you don’t like people making accusations about you without any proof whatsoever?

    I saw it on the National Enquirer, so it must be true.

  • True Story

    You are upset how someone is speaking to you. And yet, for some reason, it’s ok for Trump to talk crap about conservatives and still feel entitled to our vote.

  • KirklesWorth

    Right… Since you didn’t cite an example, I will just go with it in general. Are conservatives beyond reproach? Am I to talk away from people who “talk crap” about me or my groups? Did Trump demand my vote as though he was entitled? Your hyperbole is interesting.

  • KirklesWorth

    Pathetic dodge. You have no evidence of “slobbering over Trump” or “pretending he is some virtuous hero, etc.”, so distract away. But at least you admitted Trump is “just slightly fresher than Clinton”, which enough to make my point for me. Thank you.

  • KirklesWorth

    What do you know about what questions I asked and when? The question still stands and nobody has answered it (except for “Peyton Manning”): “who should we vote for?” In a previous thread, you stated that Trump is “just slightly fresher than Clinton”, so you supported my conclusion.

    “Cuckservative” – a conservative who sells out. And just exactly how did I do that? Do you think I had any hand in making Trump the republican candidate? Who should I support as the “conservative” candidate then?

    “Trump hijacked your party and you like it.” Oh, so it’s MY party – not yours? Then why do you care, if not just to try and ensure a victory to whatever party you belong to? Compare and contrast how Trump secured the victory over Cruz vs. how Clinton secured the victory over Sanders…I’d say Trump was following the rules and Clinton hijacked the democrats.

  • True Story

    Dodging? You are here defending Trump for no reason, according to you. You don’t think he’s good and you don’t think he’s qualified, but you are still pushing him. That’s called “slobbering”. By slightly fresher i mean he hasnt been involved in politics his WHOLE life. I never said “better”, which you assumed because, once again, you are drooling fool. Don’t be such a cuck and think for yourself. You are trying WAY to hard to polish a turd.

  • True Story

    You obviously are viewing Trump through rose colored glasses. Are we beyond reproach? Why would you ask that? Do you believe we need to be reproached? Would you insult someone then demand we vote for them? Ma6be you should just sit down and let Trump think for you lol

  • True Story

    You are asking that question NOW, which is what I’m referring to, your obfuscation notwithstanding. Why? Why do you need someone to tell you who to vote for? Why is “vote your conscience” not a good enough answer for you? Yes, you are a sellout. You vote party line with no regard to qualifications. You are sitting here ADMITTING that Trump is no conservative, yet you are supporting him anyway, ergo, sellout. Get it? If you didn’t call your delegates and demand a better candidate, then yes you had a hand in selecting Trump. Its not my party any longer, as I’ve mentioned before. It’s Trumps, and you want a first row seat. Not sure why you are so defensive about your choice, unless you know it’s a bad one.

  • KirklesWorth

    Maybe this is too abstract for you, so I’ll spell it out. This thread is chock-full of anti-Trump critique. I said I am voting for Trump. People ask me “why?” as if the are entitled to know, but I relent and respond “because Trump is the republican candidate”. Apparently, that isn’t good enough for some reason, and demand more reasons. I ask “who should we vote for?” to a response of crickets chirping. Therefore, with nary a better candidate in sight with a chance of winning, there is only one way for me to vote – so I don’t know why people are throwing up all kinds of rhetoric that doesn’t help conservatives one bit but does loads for Hillary.

  • KirklesWorth

    “You are here defending Trump for no reason” – what is unclear about “because Trump is the republican candidate”? Are you thick? You don’t know what I do or don’t think about Trump, so spare me your faux-psychic observations. So now you are going to nitpick your own terms? “Fresher” doesn’t mean “better”? Fine…then who is “better”? How many gyrations are you going to go through to avoid the simplest of simple questions: “who should I vote for?”. You don’t have a candidate and I’m a “drooling fool” – how quaint. How am I “trying WAY to [sic] hard to polish a turd” when all I’ve said is I’m voting for the republican candidate? Sound to me like the turd you refer to is your imagination.

  • KirklesWorth

    Please illustrate how I am “viewing Trump through rose colored glasses”…? I haven’t said a single thing about any of his policies, yet you go off like a rabid dog. You are the one who claimed Trump was talking “crap about conservatives”, like he has no right of free speech. Why do you not answer the question “Are conservatives beyond reproach?” and twist it into three questions “Are we beyond reproach? Why would you ask that? Do you believe we need to be reproached?” Where’s my answer first?

    “Would you insult someone then demand we vote for them?” If you think you’ve been “insulted”, you haven’t seen anything. Where did I “demand” you vote for anyone? Please stop planting phony insinuations into the discussion.

    I am sitting down, but I’d prefer to know who you think should do my thinking for me…?

  • Torcer

    I’m answered your question.

    Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN.
    [Something OTHER than he’s the GOP Nominee]

  • Torcer

    And now you are just projecting.
    Face it, as a supposed Trump supporter you are FAILING to explain your rationale for voting for the man.

  • Torcer

    Gee, how did I know you couldn’t resist that assertion.

    Brad Thor for President — #Thor2016
    Brad Thor, who supported Ted Cruz in the GOP primary, would be a true outsider to the race, unlike lifelong political criminal Hillary Clinton, or her donor, bloviating billionaire and sufferer of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), Donald Trump.

    Thor, who abhors the thought of Hillary Clinton becoming president, also recognizes the dangers of electing an authoritarian like Trump, who makes Obama’s dictatorial tendencies seem mild in comparison to what an unhinged Trump would do as president.

    “He is a danger to America,” Thor said last month, in an interview with Glenn Beck, while comparing Trump to deceased Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez and warning of a potential tyrannical dictatorship under Donald Trump.

    Brad Thor understands the U.S. Constitution, understands that we are at war with ISIS, and isn’t in bed with Vladimir Putin, which either one or both of the current main parties appear to be.

    I’ve heard Brad Thor being interviewed for years. I’ve always found his principles to be grounded in the U.S. Constitution, and he has the Reaganesque ability to communicate the conservative principles that made America great in the first place.

    Gary Johnson is a doofus and has zero chance. The country is all but over under criminal Hillary Clinton or wannabe dictator Donald Trump.

    And unlike Donald Trump, Brad Thor is no RINO, nor is he the establishment or the moneybags for the establishment.
    http://politistick.com/brad-thor-president/


    Now, since I’ve ‘lead the way’ let see YOU answer that question.

  • KirklesWorth

    Yeah, you “answered” my question with “Peyton Manning”. Is that your “final answer”?

    “Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN. [Something OTHER than he’s the GOP Nominee]”

    Nope, for (1) you don’t dictate to me to “sell” anything, (2) dictate the terms under which I answer, nor (3) the adequacy or inadequacy of my answer – which is that I am voting for Trump because he is the republican nominee (and preferable to Peyton Manning).

    You don’t have skin in the game, so how do us Trump supporters effect you and your non-existent candidate?

  • KirklesWorth

    Not a bad suggestion, other than he’s not a candidate yet. But we can revisit once it’s official. Here are the previous pertinent paragraphs you neglected to post:

    Finally — and it’s not too late — America may have a legitimate third-party candidate who understands and will fight for the U.S. Constitution and understands that both political parties are working against the best interests of the country.

    Roughly a month ago, Brad Thor teased a third-party candidacy, and now, with Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, the two most unfavorably viewed presidential nominees in the history of polling officially nominated, Thor has all but officially declared his candidacy.

    He’ll have to get over this faux pas:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/05/31/siriusxm-temporarily-suspends-glenn-beck-over-brad-thors-controversial-comments-about-trump/

  • Torcer

    Again, you have FAILED to back up your spurious accusation..

  • KirklesWorth

    Trump – republican candidate – voting for. There, it was explained.

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth

    Yeah, you “answered” my question with “Peyton Manning”. Is that your “final answer”?

    “Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN. [Something OTHER than he’s the GOP Nominee]”

    Nope, for (1) you don’t dictate to me to “sell” anything, (2) dictate the terms under which I answer, nor (3) the adequacy or inadequacy of my answer – which is that I am voting for Trump because he is the republican nominee (and preferable to Peyton Manning).

    You don’t have skin in the game, so how do us Trump supporters effect you and your non-existent candidate?

    Once again you have proven that I am correct.

  • Torcer

    Are you having trouble keeping up with the conversation?

  • Torcer

    Again, the point was that you haven’t answered that question.

    This quote proves that to be the case because you have refused to answer beyond superficialities:

    KirklesWorth

    Yeah, you “answered” my question with “Peyton Manning”. Is that your “final answer”?

    “Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN. [Something OTHER than he’s the GOP Nominee]”

    Nope, for (1) you don’t dictate to me to “sell” anything, (2) dictate the terms under which I answer, nor (3) the adequacy or inadequacy of my answer – which is that I am voting for Trump because he is the republican nominee (and preferable to Peyton Manning).

  • KirklesWorth

    And which “spurious accusation” would that be? You lied about me not answering questions (proven). You instructed me to cite my answer from the previous thread (proven). I wrote a whole page on your thread manipulations and your deceptions (proven). Are you sure you want to bring anything else back up?

  • KirklesWorth

    Yeah, since you posted candidate Brad Thor in another thread while I was typing another response. Too bad Brad Thor isn’t quite a candidate yet…but I’ll check him out anyway.

  • Torcer

    No, it you were a TRUE Trump supporter you would have a number of reasons beyond that non-answer.

    Why are you having trouble with that question?

  • Torcer

    One again, I’ve answered your question.

    Now, were you were a TRUE Trump supporter you would have a number of reasons beyond your ‘republican candidate’ non-answer.

    Why are you having trouble with that question?

  • KirklesWorth

    I refused to answer the question to your terms (“beyond superficialities”? LOL!), but I did answer the question for the umpteenth time “which is that I am voting for Trump because he is the republican nominee” – you just don’t like the answer I gave. Life is tough. Question answered time after time after time.

  • KirklesWorth

    No, what I’ve proven is that you think you can dictate the terms and conditions of an answer. I can have one reason or a thousand reasons…who are you to judge?

  • KirklesWorth

    “No, it you were a TRUE Trump supporter you would have a number of reasons beyond that non-answer. Why are you having trouble with that question?”

    Who says? Are you the question-and-answer arbiter? I gave you a answer, so why are you still lying about it? Why do you care with no skin in the game?

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth
    And which “spurious accusation” would that be? You lied about me not answering questions (proven). You instructed me to cite my answer from the previous thread (proven). I wrote a whole page on your thread manipulations and your deceptions (proven). Are you sure you want to bring anything else back up?

    Did you or did you not state this:

    KirklesWorth

    Yeah, you “answered” my question with “Peyton Manning”. Is that your “final answer”?

    “Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN. [Something OTHER than he’s the GOP Nominee]”

    Nope, for (1) you don’t dictate to me to “sell” anything, (2) dictate the terms under which I answer, nor (3) the adequacy or inadequacy of my answer – which is that I am voting for Trump because he is the republican nominee (and preferable to Peyton Manning).

    You don’t have skin in the game, so how do us Trump supporters effect you and your non-existent candidate?

    Therefore, you eviscerated your own spurious accusation.

  • Torcer

    Again: Did you or did you not tacitly refuse to Answer that question by me or others?

  • Torcer

    Thank you for once again proving my assertion. 🙂

  • KirklesWorth

    I already addressed this in another thread, but since I already put it so plainly in what you just posted: (1) you don’t dictate to me to “sell” anything, (2) dictate the terms under which I answer, nor (3) the adequacy or inadequacy of my answer”. When I say “which is that I am voting for Trump because he is the republican nominee”, that is my answer, your dissatisfaction notwithstanding.

  • KirklesWorth

    Please cite the question I refused to answer.

  • Torcer

    Again, the point was that you haven’t answered that question.

    This quote proves that to be the case because you have refused to answer beyond superficialities:

    KirklesWorth

    Yeah, you “answered” my question with “Peyton Manning”. Is that your “final answer”?

    “Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN. [Something OTHER than he’s the GOP Nominee]”

    Nope, for (1) you don’t dictate to me to “sell” anything, (2) dictate the terms under which I answer, nor (3) the adequacy or inadequacy of my answer – which is that I am voting for Trump because he is the republican nominee (and preferable to Peyton Manning).

  • Torcer

    Why are you having trouble with that question?

  • KirklesWorth

    You’re welcome? And I offer my gratitude for you proving that you believe that you are the arbiter and judge of answers, and declare answers “non-answers” because you think so.

  • KirklesWorth

    I have plenty of reasons – thanks for asking. I gave you the primary one which should be sufficient. But somehow I’m not a “TRUE Trump supporter” because there is a quota on reasons? What’s the minimum I need to have? Do you have a link on where all these requirements are?

  • KirklesWorth

    Round-and-round we go. Answer: “which is that I am voting for Trump because he is the republican nominee”, “beyond superficialities” notwithstanding.

  • KirklesWorth

    Why are you carrying on this same line of questioning on two fronts? Very well, I will copy and paste to the same thing you posted previously:

    “I have plenty of reasons – thanks for asking. I gave you the primary one which should be sufficient. But somehow I’m not a “TRUE Trump supporter” because there is a quota on reasons? What’s the minimum I need to have? Do you have a link on where all these requirements are?”

  • NotKennedy

    They killed a LOT of innocent people to take Ron Brown down. Always a lot of others killed when the Clintons get in a bind.

  • Torcer

    And once again, you dodge the question!

  • Torcer

    Perhaps you should pay more attention to what is being asked of you.

    But one that comes to mind is who did you support during the primaries?

  • Torcer

    Heh!

  • Torcer

    Well now we’re getting somewhere.
    Perhaps you should put more time into thinking about that answer than writing such long screeds..

  • Torcer

    This is starting become pretty amusing.

  • Torcer

    Most people would recognize that one needs good reasons to support a candidate, and yet you fail to articulate them.

  • KirklesWorth

    Don’t lecture me about paying attention when you haven’t asked that question for this article before – you pulled it from a different article: http://moonbattery.com/?p=74242#.

    I was good with Trump or Cruz at the time. You?

  • KirklesWorth

    There is no question pending. I have answered the following:

    (1) So copying and pasting is Okay when you do it? (answered).

    (2) Did you or did you not state this: (not asked as a question, but answered anyway).

    (3) “Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN. [Something OTHER than he’s the GOP Nominee]” (is not a question, it is a demand which I answered).

  • KirklesWorth

    Nice…criticize the criticism. Clever. No need for apologies.

  • KirklesWorth

    Pardon me if I dismiss any or all of your advice, for I am perfectly calm in defending myself, thank you very much.

  • Torcer

    I’m still waiting for your answers..

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth
    Don’t lecture me about paying attention when you haven’t asked that question for this article before – you pulled it from a different article: http://moonbattery.com/?p=7424….

    I was good with Trump or Cruz at the time. You?

    Okay.

    Please list out the reasons you supported them during that time period.

  • Torcer

    Ah yes, denial is always one of those last ditch tactics when all else fails.

    Those were questions, please answer them.

  • 762×51

    Yeah asshole, unlike you, I’ve posted here for about nine years.

    I didn’t order you to GTFO douche bag, I said “Why don’t you just get the fuck out of here if you don’t like it?”. Reading comprehension just isn’t in your skill set.

    I’m not afraid at all you little fuck, it is you vermin who are afraid to face me, I have demonstrated it many times here.

    A Clinton presidency would be exactly the same as a tRump presidency, they are the same which is why he supported with donations and connections all those decades. They are both totalitarian fascists. That you are too stupid to understand that is not my problem.

    Your defense of your beloved cult leader is right out of the campaign playbook, which is in turn based on Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. For example, your use of the word RAT as an acronym is oh so tRump-esque. In this particular case, it was more emulation than regurgitation but still a demonstration of your inability to think for yourself.

  • 762×51

    Nice, mind if I steal that?

  • 762×51

    Substituting Google for education, so not impressed.

  • 762×51

    If Hillary wins we will be ramming your weak, plurality candidate down YOUR throat, instead of you ramming him down ours.

    Our response will be, “told you so”.

  • 762×51

    They are Progressives, whining about conspiracy theories is all they have.

    They think that electing a guy who has been BUYING influence from corrupt politicians all his adult life is better than electing the corrupt politicians who have been selling that influence to him.

    Se how straight up stupid these vermin really are?

  • 762×51

    He’s troll, one who’s only goal is to start trouble.

    That is why I don’t debate them, I’d rather just put a bullet in their foreheads and move on.

  • 762×51

    He’s an Alinskyite, through and through.

  • Torcer
  • Torcer

    Well, one only needs to look at it tactics to come to that conclusion:
    1. The use of falsehoods and lies with abandon.
    2. Comments replete with childish invective.
    3. Tacit refusal to answer questions – and using the new technique of responding with a question meant to deflect the subject matter.

    Those who are truly supporters of Trump should be worried about imposters who delight in sowing chaos and confusion.

  • NotKennedy

    Be my guest!

  • AMERICANCITIZEN

    Did you vote romney, mccain, bush???????????????????????? That will expose you.

  • AMERICANCITIZEN

    i love how you cucks act like you have an army of conservatives backing you. Go check out the comments on your quisling sites. Count the cuck comments and then count the counter cuck comments. YOU HAVE NO ONE.

  • Jodie

    This thread brings to mind Family Guy’s epic Peter vs the Giant Chicken events:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4WGQmWcrbs

  • KirklesWorth

    Talk about bass ackwards. Only you could come up with blaming people for getting an outcome we warned YOU about. The only “told you so” would be us saying to you that you should have voted for Trump.

  • KirklesWorth

    Substituting insults for debate, so not impressed.

  • 762×51

    Idiot, we warned you jackholes that tRump could not beat Hillary BEFORE he won the primaries. Oh, wait, YOU WEREN’T HERE THEN. You are one of the myriad of NOOB Trumpanzee trolls who have infested this site only recently. You imbeciles managed to find the only candidate in America with higher negatives than the detestable Hillary Clinton, an impressive feat to be sure. That has gone on for more than a year now and now you are stuck with him. None of your Progressive fascist tactics will work here to try and force us to join in the mistake you have made.

    Given that, you should simply leave if you were really just out trying to persuade people to your side, but isn’t what you Trumpanzee scum are here for. Yours is the objective of any true Progressive, to spread dissent, fear, conflict and hatred. Well, you wanted a war, you little prick, I intend to give you one. Some here will fight, others will not but will not acquiesce to you either. Either way, you waste your time and will receive only ridicule and scorn from the non-troll posters.

    So NOOB Troll, have at it, I shall enjoy having you demonstrate your cowardice as have all the other Trumpanzee swine.

    NOOB Troll

  • KirklesWorth

    You are just chock full of lies, hypocrisy, and conspiracy theories today. For somebody with no skin in the game, you sure are extra-rabid. Hillary would be proud.

    Idiot, thy name is 762×51. You don’t know squat. Tough beans your candidate, whomever that is, either couldn’t cut it or screwed up in some way. Don’t blame me. If your candidate were the republican nominee, chances are I’d be voting for him/her – so suck it up buttercup.

    Troll, thy name is 762×51. All you do is come in and harass – where’s your solutions? Now you get a choice – Trump, or not Trump. Vote for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein or write in whomever you want – but don’t come back to me peeing your panties about a Hillary victory when you will be just as much to blame as anybody else, if not more.

    Hypocrite, thy name is 762×51. I’m not spreading anything – you are (and it’s pungent). I’m a republican voting for the republican candidate, so you must be the scum conspiring with the left to turn our country into a progressive-liberal-socialist hellhole by helping Hillary.

    Prick, thy name is 762×51. Projecting “wanting war” is just a pathetic lie. Poor hater can dish it out but can’t take it?

    Coward, thy name is 762×51. Why don’t you man or woman up and say who the best candidate is? Because, imbecile, thy name is 762×51. Have I re-used all of your name-calls?

  • True Story

    No, did you? If not, who did you vote for?

  • AMERICANCITIZEN

    You prove my point in a different way. I was going to call you out as a hypocrite. Now I know what you really are. You are a purist who will never find the right candidate. Because you and your stubborn friends we got the clown we have now. Thank you so much. WAKE UP!

  • True Story

    It’s a stupid question. My questions actually get some perspective from you.

    Oh I’m sure Trump isn’t done insulting us yet. Bet on it.

    YOU may not have, but I was alluding to Trump. Not everything is about you bro.

    By the way, you got “triggered” again. It’s kinda cute, actually.

  • True Story

    Blah blah blah, so you have no reason for voting Trump other than he’s the nominee? That’s selling out.

  • AMERICANCITIZEN

    Your feelings are hurt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You really need to grow up and grow a pair.

  • AMERICANCITIZEN

    You vote against Trump you support hillary. You attack trump you support hillary. You work against this country. You are the equivalent of Vichy.

  • KirklesWorth

    Of course your questions get some perspective from me – because I answer them, not evade them and call them “stupid”. I can’t ask more poignant questions if you keep dodging the basic ones. Well, at least you admitted that much, so that shows progress.

    Feel free to keep “triggering” me.

  • True Story

    Yeah Yeah, I’m a traitor now because I won’t vote for Trump. I’m voting my conscience, vote yours.

  • True Story

    Are you lost? You aren’t a very good troll.

  • True Story

    So you are a party establishment?

    That exposes you.

  • True Story

    Wow…just wow.

    You act just like Donald.

  • KirklesWorth

    Don’t take it personally AMERICANCITIZEN…they have nothing and are taking out their frustration on supporters of the one who eliminated their choice. Their irrationality would have them sacrifice the presidency to Hillary rather than do what’s pragmatic and vote for Trump.

  • 762×51

    LOL, right out of the Alinsky playbook, AGAIN!

    Yeah, you stink like a GOPee stooge. Follow the party line like a good little minion. Vote for McCain, vote for Romney, do as you are told, you make an excellent drone.

    Coward? That would be you Trumpanzee fucktards. I’m absolutely willing to take this into the real world you sniveling twerp.

    No skin in the game?
    Any time you think you have what it takes, let me know. There are some excellent remote locations where no one else can get hurt and you cannot call for help. Located in states where you cannot set a government trap. We designate an AO approximately 10 square miles, only one survives. How about it coward? You have the balls to go it in the real world or are you just another pathetic internet troll who can only “dish it out” from behind your keyboard?

    Nopw, YOU put some skin in the game, asshole.

  • 762×51

    Why would anyone debate an Alinsky vermin like you? You will not accept facts, reality, or any position other than your own, therefore no debate is possible. In fact, no civil discourse is possible, as with any Progressive.

    That leaves only combat, unfortunately, none of you cowards have the stones for real battle.

  • KirklesWorth

    “Alinsky vermin” – so hysterical. You’ve got nothing. Like you could lecture anybody on “civility”. LOL.

    Who should we vote for?

  • 762×51

    Only a fascist would try to “tell you who to vote for”, jackass. Thanks for demonstrating how fully engulfed in that mindset you are.

    I don’t give a damn who you vote for and I will not stand for you telling others who to vote for which is your primary mission, NOOB.

    By ignoring the second part of my last post, you have also demonstrated that you are a complete coward like all the other tRump Brownshirts that infest this site. I don’t answer to you, but I will give you an “opportunity” to try and force me to tell you. That is the only way you will get it out of me new boy, but you are too much of a pussy to even try it. Now. you respond with some impotent, meaningless slur, it is all you have. Either man up and back up your verbal feces or jam it up your kriklesworthless ass.

    Once again, I hope every one sees the inherent cowardice of you fascist scum.

  • KirklesWorth

    Only you would try to spin a ridiculously simple question like “who should we vote for?” into a paranoid rant about fascism while simultaneously dodging the question. Who is “engulfed in that mindset”? Everything you know is anti-Trump and pro-nobody (except Hillary by default, I suppose).

    If you “don’t give a damn” about who I vote for then why have you been here talking about “battle” and “combat”? Where did I tell anyone who to vote for? Liar on both accounts.

    You are king of ignoring parts of posts, so don’t lecture me. Funny how you would dare to call me a Trump brownshirt while you are a Hillary brown-noser by default by carrying on her work.

    Go ahead and call me “noob”, “new”, “p___y”, “brownshirt”, etc. if that helps you feel superior. Go ahead and belligerently order me around per usual – no skin off my nose. And have I mentioned your clever use of words? Not bad at trying to distract from your lack of substance.

    Only someone completely irrational would attempt (and fail) at calling a pro-republican-candidate a “fascist scum” (especially when they can’t name anybody better) and who replies to all of your hatred as “cowardice”. You are completely unhinged.

  • 762×51

    Unhinged, another Alinsky tactic, comrade.

    You and your Trumpanzee comrades have been in here telling people to “vote for tRump or else” for a year, NOOB. Go back and read the blog so you have some idea what you are sniveling about.

    tRump is a “republican” only in the sense that he got enough of you idiots to vote for him to get that parties nomination. Like Romney, McCain and the Bush’s 41 and 43, he is a Democrat in Real Terms(DIRT). That you are too stupid to recognize it or too fascist to care is not my problem, except for having to stop you Just vote for him like you have been told to do.

    You overly simplistic, “Hillary’s brown-nose” comment is typical of the mental midget Trumpanzee voter. I’m not for tRump therefore I must be for Hillary. What a blithering idiot you are. SO I’m not for Ford, therefore I must be for Chevy. I don’t like fish so I must like chicken. Do you think i give a fuck whether the fascist dictating to me is wearing a business suit or a pants suit? That is the only difference between your boy and Hitlery. You go ahead and vote for nthe fascist with a R next to his name, he is sooo much better than the fascist with a D next to her name, moron.

    By the way douche bag, how do like being in bed with Boehner and Ryan and McConnell? Your cult leader seems to like it. Maybe that is because he has been part of the DC corruption cartel for decades.

    Yep, just another chicken shit tRmp Brownshirt, exposed for all to see.

  • 762×51

    Sowing chaos is why he is here. He’s pissed because I have called him on it and called him out like I do all the Trumpanzee swine. He’s just another coward like all the rest though.

  • Torcer

    You will also note that it utilizes the tried and true technique of accusing others of the very same tactics and methodology it uses.

    Just as Trump likes to preempt discussions of his antics with childish nicknames our Comrade attacks others with baseless accusations.

    The key difference being that we can cite evidence of it’s malfeasance while it cannot do the same. The best it can offer are lies built upon more lies.

  • AMERICANCITIZEN

    Wow.. just wow

    You have nothing.

  • AMERICANCITIZEN

    Weak.

    Very very weak.

    Work on it. You will get better. You can do it little cuck.

  • AMERICANCITIZEN

    Another weak response. Where does she keep them?

  • AMERICANCITIZEN

    Conscience!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep posting that. Ridiculous! Keep trying. You haven’t voted before why should you start now. You are a non entity.

  • KirklesWorth

    I will reduce my unanswerable yet incredibly easy question “Who should we vote for?” from five words to four: “What should we do?”

    Besides that, do you take your cues from Joseph Goebbels “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”? Or are you hostile because this “noob” keeps demonstrating your lack of integrity and intelligence?

    First, let’s make a list of the “civil” insults you’ve generated just in this thread: “Alinsky vermin”, “Progressive”, “coward”, “fascist”, “jackass”, “NOOB”, “brownshirt” (implied), “new boy”, “pu__y”, “fascist scum”, “comrade” (unless you meant “friend”), “idiot”, “stupid”, “mental midget Trumpanzee voter”, “blithering idiot”, “moron”, “douche bag”, “chicken s__t Trump brownshirt”. Oh yes, I’m the one who needs to be “exposed for all to see.”

    How many thing are you hypocritical about or are the exact opposite of what you say:

    * Whine about “civil discourse” and then tell me to “jam it up your kriklesworthless ass” and “inherent cowardice of you fascist scum”…very civil.
    * You “don’t care” and yet you keep coming back.
    * Trump supporters are “fascists” and “brownshirts”
    * People who confront you are “cowards”
    * Trump is the republican candidate but isn’t “republican”
    * Blaming everybody for the Bushes, McCain, Romney…
    * Calling everybody “stupid” for republican candidates.
    * Trump supporters are all lemmings.
    * Trump is bad and your missing candidate is better.
    * Would blame Trump voters for Hillary victory.
    * Call me a “troll” while encompassing the definition.
    * Claim I ignore you while you dodge the ridiculously simple question “who should we vote for?”
    * Claim I “respond with some impotent, meaningless slur” (your m.o.).
    * “…back up your verbal feces” which you don’t do.
    * Guilt-by-association, ad hominem, straw men, etc..

    You haven’t demonstrated squat regarding the paranoid lies you are trying to pass off as some “noob” “brownshirt” “fascist” conspiracy. Let’s review:

    * I’m “Alinsky vermin” – ironically an Alinsky tactic.
    * “…will not accept facts…” – present some then.
    * “…no debate is possible”, and yet here you are.
    * “…no civil discourse”, and yet you are the uncivil one.
    * Calling me “progressive” for voting republican.
    * Calling me “coward” for standing up to you.
    * Calling me “noob” when you make the rookie mistakes.
    * Demanding how others should (or shouldn’t) vote.
    * Asking a question is somehow making a demand.

    Now, explain again how your magnanimous “civility” and being a Disqus “veteran” alleviates you from all of the demands you place on others?

  • KirklesWorth

    Okay, please re-cite them and I will.

  • KirklesWorth

    Still waiting for you to re-cite your question.

  • Torcer

    Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN.
    [Something OTHER than he’s the GOP Nominee]

  • Torcer
  • KirklesWorth

    Too lazy to copy-and-paste it or trying to hide how the conversation took place? Fine, I will take care of it.

    Torcer: Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN. [Something OTHER than he’s the GOP Nominee]

    KirklesWorth: Don’t lecture me about paying attention when you haven’t asked that question for this article before – you pulled it from a different article: http://moonbattery.com/?p=7424….

    I was good with Trump or Cruz at the time. You?

    Torcer: “Okay. Please list out the reasons you supported them during that time period.”

    Notice how you neglected to answer my question? So, my question is in the queue first. Therefore, I was waiting for your answer first. Nevertheless, the answers are simple: they were the highest polling two candidates at the time – and Rubio went sour on me.

  • KirklesWorth

    “Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN. [Something OTHER than he’s the GOP Nominee].” is not a question – it’s an order. An order I am not obliged to obey. I thought I made that clear in my previous response:

    “Nope, for (1) you don’t dictate to me to “sell” anything, (2) dictate the terms under which I answer, nor (3) the adequacy or inadequacy of my answer – which is that I am voting for Trump because he is the republican nominee (and preferable to Peyton Manning).”

  • Torcer

    My response is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=74774#comment-2813620708
    Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum…

  • Torcer

    My response is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=74774#comment-2813620708
    Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..

  • KirklesWorth

    LOL…”eviscerate”! What a laugh! I giant in his/her own mind! So…I am off…

  • Torcer

    My response is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=7477
    Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum…

  • KirklesWorth

    Yeah…I’ve addressed your “response” there (#2).

  • KirklesWorth

    Yeah…I’ve addressed your “response” there (#1).

  • Torcer
  • Torcer
  • KirklesWorth
  • 762×51

    Blah, blah, blah. Your copy and paste skills are very good, too bad your ability to think for yourself is so limited. redirecting your Alinsky tactics back onto me is simultaneously weak, pathetic and demonstrative of how limited your ability to really comprehend the scope of your ignorance.

    How funny that you believe this anonymous exchange of insults is oh so rude and that your participation somehow constitutes “standing up to me”, I offer you and the other Trumpanzee trolls a chance to back up your bullshit in real life and you run screaming that I’m mean to you, that my civility isn’t “magnanimous” enough for your prissy tastes. Unlike you, I’m not a substitute English teacher, I deal in lead.

    Early on in the GWOT, I realized that Islam was just a codified form of fascism just as Progressive ideology is a codified form of fascism though it is still being codified, it is the same, only Islam has a 1,400 year head start. That explained why Progressives have allied themselves with the jihadis. A similar thing happened in the early 20th century when American Progressives developed many of the ideas which the Nazis implemented. They didn’t invent those ideas, the Malthusians in England did, the American Progressive movement just refined the ideology into a plan of action to destroy western civilization and remake it into their pseudo-utopia just as the jihad seeks to destroy western civilization and remake it into their murderous death cult. They are the same, both are totalitarian, both seek to control every aspect of the followers daily life, one has it’s focal point the worship of a deity and a 1,400 year dead pedophile cult of personalty while the other has as it’s deity government and whatever personalty the politicos thinks can win an election they will build a cult of personalty around. This quadrennial election, both “sides” of this same R and D coin have candidates whose personalities are so vile, that nearly three quarters of the population rejects them both. That means that this election will be decided roughly by 25% – 30% of the electorate which the two “sides will divide with one having slightly more yet you Trumpanzee swine come in here beating your chest about how “YUGE” your boy is, what a laugh.

    tRump IS a Progressive, has been his entire adult life. He has supported Progressive causes and politicians with his words, actions and his money. NO ONE, regardless of how much money they have, puts their own money into causes they do not believe in. period. Dave Blount and others have documented that FACT here, for over a year now, and all we got back from you Progressives is vitriol so now, all I have for you is vitriol. I say you Progressives because supporting a Progressive candidate makes you a Progressive, a stain of shame you will bear for the rest of your life. Your big show about voting against the “RINO” Republicans by voting for the biggest RINO of them all is comical, at best and demonstrates your complete lack of understanding of the underlying problem.

    Being a Progressive makes you my mortal, blood enemy, just as being a hajji makes you my mortal, blood enemy, you are exactly the same to me as they are, you cannot be reasoned with or bargained with and you both seek to enslave me and my family with your totalitarian beliefs, that leaves only war. There can never be peace between us, as a totalitarian Progressive you can never change your ideology and I will never submit or surrender to you, tRump or Killary. That means civil war is upon us and this time, the death toll will be catastrophic all because of Progressives and their followers.

    You may have noticed how much many others here despise you, as do I. Get used to it because it only gets worse from here. See you on the battlefield.

  • KirklesWorth

    “Blah, blah, blah.” and then you reply with 6 paragraphs after stating you “don’t give a damn who you vote for”…? What a bloviation! It’s so chock full of hysteria, I almost hate to encourage you. Oh well, I can’t be the “coward” that won’t stand up to the bully.

    Well, if we are so well-versed in Alinsky, let’s see who fits the bill the best. I count 6 for you, 2 for me, and 5 not applicable.

    Rules that fit 762×51:

    * RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” That’s what you TRY to do…
    * RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” That’s you in a nutshell.
    * RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Again, nutshell.
    * RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” That’s the “fascism” you keep whinging on about.
    * RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Yeah, Joseph Goebells would be proud.
    * RULE 12: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Can’t do much better than “chicken s__t Trump brownshirt” with “fascist” thrown in.

    Rules that fit KirklesWorth:

    * RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” Yeah, that’s me. Seems only fair…hypocrisy is so one-sided.
    * RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” That would be my anti-Hillary, although I believe it firmly.

    Rules that don’t fit 762×51 or KirklesWorth:

    * RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.”
    * RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.”
    * RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”
    * RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” We both certainly don’t follow that one.
    * RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Yeah, you’ve got nothing, so this doesn’t fit

    Well that’s it for the Alinski lecture. You will obviously need to concede that you are the Alinski-ite in this scenario. Thanks for playing.

  • KirklesWorth

    I addressed the Alinski lie below which would include your ridiculous “progressive” lie about me. Now after all of your lecture, the $64,000 question once again is – “what should we do?”

    Will not voting for Trump help defeat Hillary? No.
    Will not voting for Trump help Hillary? Yes.
    What is the conclusion here if you don’t want a Hillary presidency?

    “You may have noticed how much many others here despise you, as do I. Get used to it because it only gets worse from here. See you on the battlefield.” So this isn’t about debate – it’s a popularity contest? Forgive me if I don’t worry about your scare tactics.

  • 762×51

    You had your chance to do what should have been done and instead you choose tRump, live with asshole.

    You don’t worry because you safe, hiding behind your keyboard, sperm breath.

  • 762×51

    Claiming I am what you are, pure Alinsky.

    Go fuck yourself you cowardly asshole. Either man up and face me or shut the fuck up. Wait, I forgot, you are just as big a pussy as the rest of the Trumpanzee filth. Prove you aren’t just another internet keyboard troll. You can’t because all you have is your anonymity, without it, you are a mouse.

  • KirklesWorth

    So it’s my fault? You are completely off your rocker. Hostile, irrational, aggressive…all the qualifications of a SJW. Interesting how you double-down after the schooling I gave you on your Alinski-ite tactics in another thread. Let’s see which of Alinski’s rules apply this time:

    * RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
    * RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”
    * RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.”
    * RULE 12: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

  • KirklesWorth

    Ignore, deny, project, whatever. It’s no wonder you were so quick to bring up Alinsky tactics – you are a big fan of them and use them constantly – all while denying the hypocrisy.

    “Man up and face me”? What the devil are you talking about? Are you threatening me? You are a pathetic little blowhard with delusions of grandeur. You can’t debate worth squat so you’re going to demand a “rumble”? You’re like an unhinged pubescent driver with road rage. Keep your threats to yourself you pompous windbag.

  • 762×51

    HAHAHAHA!! Schooling?!?! Here’s a hint to see if we can get your credibility up from way below zero, It’s spelled ALINSKY, dumbass.

    Hostile? Toward you and the other Trumpanzee Progressives? Yep, count on it. I already told you, I’m no longer interested in debating you. You wanted a war, here it is.

    Irrational? Only to a Progressive fascist like you. Anyone who doesn’t agree with you is deemed irrational. Progressives always see it that way. It’s part of your pseudo-superiority.

    Aggressive? You cannot even imagine the aggression you and your Progressive friends are about to face, little boy.

    Now for the millionth time, you have pushed your tRump or else agenda, I have selected or else. Let’s get to it

  • Torcer

    Please post an except of the supposed answer of yours.

  • Torcer

    My response is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=74801#comment-2815432126
    Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.

  • KirklesWorth

    You call this answering questions? You even refuse to answer the same questions you demanded of me:

    (1) “On a side note, curious spelling of “favour”. as it has a distinct Canadian flavour…are you a U.S. citizen?” Response: “BTW, one can be a citizen and use the letter ‘u’.”
    Question unanswered.

    (2) “I was good with Trump or Cruz at the time. You?”
    Question unanswered.

    (3) “Please list out the reasons you supported them during that time period.” Question unanswered.

    Here were your complete non-answering responses in context:

    Here we have the usual SJW tactic of disingenuously pretending something was reveled when it wasn’t.
    We are also seeing some prime examples of supposed Trump supporters in avoiding actually supporting the man. Instead of touting the reasons to vote for the man we have our comrade here utilizing an aggressive posture firing back irrelevant questions in order to deflect from the subject. Note that it has no qualms about making claims or using preemptive accusations designed to dodge.

    BTW, one can be a citizen and use the letter ‘u’..
    And were you to be actually informed you would already know my preferences. But keep on pretending those questions weren’t answered.

  • KirklesWorth

    Yep, I was truly “eviscerated” by your empty responses. Bravo!

  • Torcer

    My response is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=74801#comment-2815432126
    Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.

  • Torcer

    My response is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=74801#comment-2815432126
    Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.

    Sadly It couldn’t even read what I wrote…

  • 762×51

    An offer of single, mutual combat is not a threat, dumbass. You are going to have to do it anyway, I and many others will never submit to you and your kind. I’m not trying to debate you, stupid, I’m only interested in getting the shooting war part of this conflict over with, as I said, there can never be peace between us.

    “Rumble”? Do you think this is a movie? You don’t even realize that you are working to foment a WAR. I mean a no shit for real shooting war, all I’m doing is giving you the opportunity to implement your fascism. You claim I’m “a pathetic little blowhard with delusions of grandeur”, Ok, prove it, should be easy if you are right.

    All you will actually do is continue to push your “pompous windbag” candidate and his authoritarian fascist agenda. All while hiding behind your keyboard, talk about pathetic.

    As before, go fuck yourself.

  • KirklesWorth

    Who is siding with the progressives in this scenario? You. So spare us your faux-conservative preening. Who is the best candidate?

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