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Aug 09 2016

Top GOP Spokesman in Florida Quits Rather Than Support Trump

Trump is not going to win without Florida — which means he is not going to win:

In a blow to Donald Trump’s chances in Florida, the chief spokesman for the Florida GOP for the last year, Wadi Gaitan, is quitting his job because he won’t support Trump.

Gaitan, who is Latino, stated, “I’m thankful for my almost two years with the Florida GOP, however, moving on gives me a great, new opportunity to continue promoting free market solutions while avoiding efforts that support Donald Trump.”

Gaitan will be working for the LIBRE initiative, which is supported by the Koch Bros. Kudos to those who put principles ahead of party obedience. There will still be a place for conservatives after 2016.

Whether there will still be a place for the Republican Party remains to be seen.

Former Trump cheerleader Andrea Peyser of the noisily pro-Trump New York Post has jumped ship, announcing, “I can no longer justify calling myself a Trump supporter.” Already Trump’s Titanic is listing and taking on water, and there are still 3 months of increasingly rough seas ahead. You can expect an increasing interest in lifeboats among pundits who were previously willing to sell out conservatism.

Keeping the Trump campaign afloat is not an option. The best we can hope for is to prevent the GOP from following to the bottom of the sea.

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On tips from Torcer.



  • Grumpy Cat
  • Occam’s Stubble

    I want the GOP to go the way of the Titanic because I lay all the blame for Trump on them. They did this! They’re guilty! They need to fall to make way for a new conservative/constitutionalist party.

  • not for war criminal clinton

    if you don’t vote trump your supporting war criminal hillary clinton.

  • Lee Scuppers

    Those cucks are full of principles when it’s time to attack their own side. Funny how they never seem to want to attack the other side, though.

  • Torcer

    You mean a man who won the nomination months ago and is still attacking his own alleged party?

  • Torcer

    My Fellow Americans,

    Our American Nation is the greatest experiment in freedom the world has ever known. It’s given generations of citizens the blessings of liberty ever since the Founding Fathers risked their lives in what seemed like an improbable bid for independence. While the republic they created was one of imperfect freedoms, for 240 years the arc of progress and liberty has moved ever-upward. Even in times of economic crisis and war, our nation has been a singular source of hope for people throughout the world yearning for liberty, dignity and opportunity.

    I proudly and quietly served our country for most of my adult life, first as an undercover operations officer with the Central Intelligence Agency and more recently as a senior national security and policy advisor in the House of Representatives. My service has given me unique, firsthand knowledge of the threats our nation faces, the burdens borne by hardworking Americans, and the numerous areas of our government that desperately need reform.

    Like millions of Americans, I had hoped this year would bring us better nominees who, despite party differences, could offer compelling visions of a better future. Instead, we have been left with two candidates who are fundamentally unfit for the profound responsibilities they seek.

    Hillary Clinton is a corrupt career politician who has recklessly handled classified information in an attempt to avoid accountability and put American lives at risk including those of my former colleagues. She fails the basic tests of judgment and ethics any candidate for President must meet. Moreover, she only offers stale economic ideas like the same old top-down government control that has brought us eight years of historically low growth.

    Donald Trump appeals to the worst fears of Americans at a time we need unity, not division. Republicans are deeply divided by a man who is perilously close to gaining the most powerful position in the world, and many rightly see him as a real threat to our Republic. Given his obvious personal instability, putting him in command of our military and nuclear arsenal would be deeply irresponsible. His infatuation with strongmen and demagogues like Vladimir Putin is anathema to America values. We cannot and must not elect him.

    Millions of Americans are not being represented by either of these candidates; those of us who care about the strength of the military and intelligence services find little to embrace in either Trump or Clinton.

    Americans who believe in limited, Constitutional government that is smaller, smarter, and more accountable view both Clinton and Trump as symbols of corruption and excess that provide no hope of basic competence in the federal government.

    Those who embrace the dignity and value of every human life from conception until death; who understand the crushing danger of our unsustainable national debt; who believe deference to our Constitution outweighs partisan political priorities are all looking for something better than the two major party candidates are offering. These foundational and time-tested principles transcend party and politics but sadly have no champion in this election. We must not abandon the fight for these values, for doing so will deprive future generations of Americans the bright future we want to give them.

    With the stakes so high for our nation and at this late stage in the process, I can no longer stand on the sidelines. Our country needs leaders who are in it for the right reasons and who actually understand what makes this country the greatest on earth. Leaders who will unite us and guide us to a prosperous, secure future, beyond the dysfunction of a broken political system.

    Just as the American Revolution required men and women devoted to liberty and freedom to stand up and be counted, this moment calls a new generation to the same sacred task. With that in mind, I have decided to pursue the cause of American renewal and the Presidency of the United States of America.

    With Hope For Our Future,

    Evan McMullin
    Evan McMullin is an independent candidate for President.
    https://www.evanmcmullin.com/my_letter_to_america

  • JeffersonSpinningInGrave

    Damned if we do, damned if we don’t.

    Give Hilary eight years and the fundamental transformation might well be complete. No freedom of speech, religion, or press. No RTKBA. No protection from unreasonable search and seizure. The full power of the Federal Gov. regularly used against political opponents of leftism, for ever more. Censorship of the internet. National police without loyalty to their communities, and expanded to be more powerful than the military. In short, too late for a new conservative party to do any good at all.

    Give Trump time in office, he may damage the conservative brand badly. Then, next election, we get another radical leftist, and see above.

  • Stephen

    The Koch Supported Libre Initiative on Immigration:

    – A streamlined…process will provide a legal path to work for the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants currently living and working in the United States.

    – Minor children of immigrants that are here through no fault of their own and whose parent is legally working in the United States should be given legal status.

    Amnesty plus anchor babies = end of the American Nation.

    “Kudos to those who put principles ahead of party obedience.”

    This helps us understand exactly what Conservatives mean when they talk about their principles — they definitely include the vaunted principle of Open Borders.

  • Tchhht!!!

    Who is this guy now? The Meathead Party?

  • Karma’s Janitor

    you mean 12 days ago?

  • JeffersonSpinningInGrave

    Assuming a new party can pull us out of the fire at this point. I fear we are in deep trouble no matter who wins. And, unlike Europe in WWII, there will be nobody to come to our rescue.

  • KirklesWorth

    You mean like Darrel Castle?

    “Darrell Castle: Conspiracy Theorist Who ATTACKED Ted Cruz Early!”

    http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2016/08/02/darrell-castle-conspiracy-theorist-attacked-ted-cruz-early/

  • Torcer

    He locked it up months ago – has he been attacking his own side?

  • Torcer

    Are you denying Trump has done that?

  • Torcer

    Trump is clearly losing – it is time for him to either drop out or support should shift to someone more viable.

  • Grumpy Cat

    <<>>

    Source?

    Why so mad bro?

  • Grumpy Cat

    Zzzzzzzzz

  • TrojanMan

    I agree however i think it is too late to save the republic even with a new party.

  • KirklesWorth

    Gotta love those independent candidates that split the vote and risk a Hillary presidency.

  • KirklesWorth

    Nope. The establishment republican party needs some attacking…don’t you think? How’s your “selling” of Darrell Castle going? How did Ted Cruz get along with the republicans?

  • KirklesWorth

    He should be “selling” his candidate Darrell Castle.

  • TrojanMan

    Trump is on the other side.

  • KirklesWorth

    So, let me get this straight, he “locked it up months ago” and he was “attacking his own side” back then as well, so I guess that garnered him more supporters! Golly-gee-whiz, what an effective campaign strategy! You’d think that maybe the people weren’t so keen on the establishment republicans! Sounds just like some of the conservatives I hear around here…

    So when Ted Cruz didn’t get along with the republicans it was a good thing, but now that it’s Trump that makes it bad?

  • Grumpy Cat

    Thank you #NeverTrumpers for keeping Beltway Bootlickers like me in power.

    You may now touch my hair.

    https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/ap080422014623.jpg?quality=75&strip=color&w=799

  • KirklesWorth

    George Will gives RINOs a bad name.

  • Grumpy Cat

    He wants the status quo on both political sides to keep his salary so high. The most petty of traitors.

  • KirklesWorth

    I’m assuming this creepy image is Sean Hannity.

  • ray

    Let’s see, is ‘Wadi’ a Christian name? What kind of name is it exactly? Yet he/she/it is honcho of Republican Florida. What’s that tell us? It tells us exactly WHY the Republican Party has been Leftism Light for the past forty years — the supposedly ‘conservative’ bosses of the GOP filled their wallets with money and their hearts with power, while the nation died in front of their eyes, corrupted by Diversity, Feminism, and all the rest of the evil that the Repugnicants were, and are, unable to address, much less stop.
    Now all the Repugnicant Wadis are scrambling to retain their filthy power and influence; instead of being concerned that America has been annihilated due to their own cowardice, selfishness, and greed, the Wadis are terrified that they might not be Big Cheese Politicos should Trump win. Wonderful Wadis! Thanks ever so much for your betrayals.
    Trump’s candidacy has revealed exactly why conservatives/Repubs have failed so spectacularly over the past four decades. These people are quite happy with New Amerika . . . as long as THEY stay on top. They’re bigger traitors than the Demoncraps.

  • ray

    Yep. This has been the ‘conservative’ answer to Barry and Hillary for half-a-century. No wonder the nation is croaking.
    Assholes. Sow, reap.

  • Torcer

    The Polls Aren’t Skewed: Trump Really Is Losing Badly http://53eig.ht/2aHsiff

    The Polls Aren’t Skewed: Trump Really Is Losing Badly
    We’ve reached that stage of the campaign. The back-to-school commercials are on the air, and the “unskewing” of polls has begun — the quadrennial exercise in which partisans simply adjust the polls to get results more to their liking, usually with a thin sheen of math-y words to make it all sound like rigorous analysis instead of magical thinking.

    But let’s say this plainly: The polls are not “skewed.” They weren’t in 2012, and they aren’t now.

    The basic premise of the unskewers is wrong. Most pollsters don’t weight their results by party self-identification, which polls get by asking a question like “generally speaking, do you usually think of yourself as a….” Party identification is an attitude, not a demographic. There isn’t some national number from the government that tells us how many Democrats and Republicans there are in the country. Some states collect party registration data, but many states do not. Moreover, party registration is not the same thing as party identification. In a state like Kentucky, for example, there are a lot more registered Democrats than registered Republicans, but more voters identified as Republican in the 2014 election exit polls.
    [..]
    Of course, unskewing is simply one of many ways of pretending Clinton hasn’t jumped out to a large post-convention lead against Donald Trump. You could also ask us to imagine a world without polls. You could allege, without any evidence, that outright election fraud will take place. Or you point to Trump’s rally sizes, though George McGovern in 1972, Walter Mondale in 1984 and Mitt Romney in 2012 all had large crowd sizes and lost.

    People, though, should stick to reality. Right now, Clinton is leading in almost every single national poll. She leads in both our polls-plus and polls-only forecasts. That doesn’t mean she will win. The polls have been off before, but no one knows by how much beforehand, or in which direction they’ll miss. For all their imperfection, the polls are a far better indicator than the conspiracy theories made up to convince people that Trump is ahead.
    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-arent-skewed-trump-really-is-losing-badly/

  • Torcer

    Yes, Trump DOES Need Conservative Votes. His Supporters Should Try Something Other than Threats or Peer Pressure to Get Them. | RedState http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/08/09/yes-trump-need-conservative-votes.-supporters-try-something-threats-peer-pressure-get-them./

    Yes, Trump DOES Need Conservative Votes. His Supporters Should Try Something Other than Threats or Peer Pressure to Get Them. | RedState http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/08/09/yes-trump-need-conservative-votes.-supporters-try-something-threats-peer-pressure-get-them./

    Yes, Trump DOES Need Conservative Votes. His Supporters Should Try Something Other than Threats or Peer Pressure to Get Them.
    There are two things that are driving Trump’s recent nose dive in the polls. The first is that he has lost support among independent voters. The second is that he has lost support amongst the registered voters of his own party. Trump cannot survive either of these things and both problems must be fixed if he is going to have a chance to win.

    Unfortunately, the only tools of persuasion they have in their arsenal seem to be peer pressure and intimidation. The first of these takes the form of “you’re helping Hillary win” or some other variant of “you’re letting the team down” or “I won’t be friends with you anymore if you don’t vote the way I want.”

    Here’s an idea: try treating lifelong Republicans and conservatives who are resistant to voting for Trump like fully grown adults who long ago learned how to resist peer pressure and stick to their beliefs. Try to imagine that they might have already thought through the possible consequences of their vote – and, indeed, that having done so is what led them to this position in the first place.

    Find some way to reassure voters who most assuredly do not want Hillary Clinton to become President that Trump has it in him to actually do this job in a way that wouldn’t materially harm the country (and, indeed, the world at large). Don’t assume that repeatedly pointing at Hillary and braying will get the job done, because it won’t. We’ve been watching Hillary for 25 years now; you’re not surprising us by telling us that she’s bad.

    Convince us that Trump is good or at least less bad, and do it with facts, if you can. Or don’t; it’s no skin off my teeth if he loses. But you should realize by now that what you’re doing is not working and will in fact contribute to his loss in November.
    http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/08/09/yes-trump-need-conservative-votes.-supporters-try-something-threats-peer-pressure-get-them./

  • Torcer

    New Presidential Poll Shows One Candidate Topping The 50 Percent Mark For The First Time http://www.westernjournalism.com/new-presidential-poll-shows-one-candidate-topping-the-50-percent-mark-for-the-first-time/?

    New Presidential Poll Shows One Candidate Topping The 50 Percent Mark For The First Time
    “… faces a credibility crisis …”
    Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton has now put significant distance between herself and Republican nominee Donald Trump, according to a new poll that shows Clinton gaining strength while Trump’s support level is stagnant.

    The poll shows that in a four-way race, Clinton leads Trump 44 to 38 percent, with Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson at 10 percent and Green Party candidate Jill Stein at 4 percent.

    The poll’s margin of error was 1.2 percentage points.

    The Real Clear Politics average of polls showed that Clinton held a lead of 7.5 points over Trump as of Tuesday.

    Writing in The New Yorker, John Cassidy said Trump’s conduct has voters worried.
    http://www.westernjournalism.com/new-presidential-poll-shows-one-candidate-topping-the-50-percent-mark-for-the-first-time/

  • KirklesWorth

    Down with Trump! Champion Darrell Castle!

  • KirklesWorth

    If Trump needs conservative voters, he should continue to alienate establishment republicans in favor of Tea Party candidates.

  • KirklesWorth

    I like what Ann Coulter says: “the left uses polls to manipulate public opinion, rather than find out what it is.”

    But, ooh, let’s look at this http://fivethirtyeight.com/ site and see what other goodies there are! Let’s see what they write about non-partisanly:

    Clinton And Trump Are Both Promising An Extreme Supreme Court
    There’s Plenty Of Time For Trump Or Clinton To Become Likable Enough
    Is Georgia Becoming A Battleground State?
    Tighter Restrictions Are Losing In The Battle Over Voter ID Laws

    Now let’s see how many articles they write about Trump:

    The Polls Aren’t Skewed: Trump Really Is Losing Badly
    When Down-Ballot Republicans Should Dump Trump
    Election Update: Trump’s Slump Deepens In The Polls
    Trump’s Campaign Focused On Attracting Unlikely Voters, A Memo Shows
    Trump May Start Dragging GOP Senate Candidates Down With Him
    Is Donald Trump Blowing It?
    The GOP’s Most Anti-Trump Voters Look A Lot Like Kasich Supporters

    Let’s see how many articles they write about Hillary:

    Clinton Has Nearly Caught Up To Trump In Media Coverage
    About A Third Of Bernie Sanders’s Supporters Still Aren’t Backing Hillary Clinton
    Clinton’s Post-Convention Bump Is Showing No Signs Of Fading
    Election Update: Is Clinton’s Lead A Bounce Or A New Equilibrium?
    Election Update: Clinton’s Bounce Appears Bigger Than Trump’s

    This is obviously a source I need to keep my eyes on!

  • TrojanMan

    Please elaborate for the simpletons such as myself. You seem to be suggesting that Trump does not need conservative voters but should be fine with just establishment republicans? You also seem to be suggesting that Ted Cruz lost because he alienated establishment republicans correct?

    I want to make sure i understand correctly before offering a rebuttal.

    As a side note if you put stock in conservative review. Cruz has a 97% score vs Trumps 66%. So why slam Ted Cruz if you are a conservative? Just asking…..

  • cecil2

    The GOP is worthless, so why do I care if another traitor GOP won’t support Trump.

    Its not about Trump. Its about the issues. Understand that.

  • FrozenPatriot

    Trump gets along just fine with the GOPee establishment. How much more established can you get than Paul Traitor Ryan, speaker of the house, endorsed by Donald Trump?

  • 762×51

    LOL, you have kirklesworth in a tailspin. He had a little run in with me the other day and was so frightened he has blocked me. Just kick some sand at him, he hates having it in his vagina.

  • kirklesWorthisaDouche

    Hey pantywaist, hows blocking me working out for you? Sorry to hear you got sand in your vagina again.

    Sniveling chickenshit coward. Sweet work you did electing tRump with a bunch of your Democrat buddies. You have enabled Hillary’s election. MORON!

  • KirklesWorthisaDick

    He already has Republican Establishment Progressives like you. Why does he need Conservatives?

    Your contradictions display your stupidity for all to see, kirklesDouche.

  • KirklesWorthisaDick

    Smug, arrogant little prick, isn’t it?

    It doesn’t care about anything but pushing it’s cult leader on everyone else so we can take part in the mistake it has already made. KirklesWorth is a Progressive, not a Conservative. It hates Conservatives and has no principles of its own except advancing its vile fascistic agenda, which is characteristic of a Progressive.

  • KirklesWorththeDoucheBag

    And you make Democrat Progressives look god compared to your fascism. Quite a feat considering the fascism of Progressive ideology. But you manage to make them look good by comparison.

  • Tchhht!!!

    Hey Peashooter, what time to you usually show up around here? I need a good laugh. Thanks.

  • TrojanMan
  • TrojanMan

    Yeah I know but i am having fun.

  • Wilberforce

    “Traitor.”

  • Lee Scuppers

    The other side from you and Hillary, you mean? I certainly hope so.

  • TrojanMan

    No, as in hitlery and trump are on the same side.

  • Annejpatton2

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  • KirklesWorth

    New persona 762×51 begging for more attention? Psycho-troll block #2.

  • KirklesWorth

    Please elaborate for the simpletons such as myself. You seem to be suggesting that Trump does not need conservative voters but should be fine with just establishment republicans?

    How did you get it so backwards? That is the opposite of what I said. Good thing you wanted clarification.

    You also seem to be suggesting that Ted Cruz lost because he alienated establishment republicans correct?

    That is correct.

    As a side note if you put stock in conservative review. Cruz has a 97% score vs Trumps 66%. So why slam Ted Cruz if you are a conservative? Just asking…..

    Who says I didn’t pick Cruz? Irrelevant at this point anyway.

  • KirklesWorth

    If they were championing a better candidate, then we could give them more slack…but they have nothing. Attacking Trump-supporters while having no alternative is doing Hillary’s bidding.

  • KirklesWorth

    You are contradicting what Torcer previously said:

    You mean a man who won the nomination months ago and is still attacking his own alleged party?

    You guys need to coordinate your stories. But then again, it’s easier to say damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.

  • FrozenPatriot

    The glorious kollective coordinates things. Free and independent thinkers express their own thoughts.

  • KirklesWorth

    Yeah, cool. So which one of you is right?

  • KirklesWorth

    Funny, Conservative Review doesn’t think so. https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates

  • TrojanMan

    And what do they base his abysmal score on… his voting record?

  • KirklesWorth

    Thanks for conceding that Hillary and Trump are not on the same side – “abysmal score” or otherwise. And since I’m not your errand boy, you’ll have to find out yourself.

  • FrozenPatriot

    Since Cruz is hated by the establishment, and Trump endorses the most established of the establishment while continuing to attack Cruz, it appears Trump sides with the oligarchy.

    Since the establishment hates the Constitutionalist and Christian wings of the GOP, and Trump has all but alienated them both, it appears the evidence is stacking up for Trump siding with the establishment.

    Since Trump braggadociosly extolls his history of buying off members of both major political parties — a feat impossible without an establishment willing to protect this scheme of bribes — it appears the Trump/establishment love-fest has been ongoing for quite some time.

    But, “viability!!”

  • TrojanMan

    Orange Julius stated himself on the Fox News Donald Trump Show with Sean Hannity that he does not need and does not want the “nevertrump” people. Hannity attempted to lay the blame for an impending trump defeat at the feet of “nevertrump however; we have been vindicated from this disaster by the man himself. ‘I dont want these people” Great job to try and unify the party!

    https://youtu.be/lQahs09mhb0?t=1207

    I am surprised you put any stock in conservative review as it slams your boy quite often. You would call it a hillary-enabler site like moonbattery, unless of course you are a hypocrite?

  • KirklesWorth

    First, why does the “I don’t care” person keep coming back to attack Trump?

    Second, how does “unifying the party” coincide with your conservative ideals?

    I am surprised you put any stock in conservative review as it slams your boy quite often.

    It’s called “integrity” – you should try it.

    You would call it a hillary-enabler site like moonbattery, unless of course you are a hypocrite?

    What, are you kidding me? They aren’t so irrational that they call Donald Trump a “progressive”.

  • KirklesWorth

    So, you claim Torcer is wrong. Noted.

    Which candidate are you championing?

  • FrozenPatriot

    *sigh*

    You’re wrong again. Torcer and I agree. Trump is attacking the majority of the party which is comprised of Christians, Constitutionalists, and those politicians which enjoy a high level of support from them, such as Ted Cruz. Trump did not earn a majority of votes even within the party, and more votes were cast against him than any other republican primary candidate in history.

    As for the nonsense of championing a presidential candidate, this is exactly the problem I’ve explained to you. Like pearls before swine I suppose…

  • KirklesWorth

    You have no candidate, so why do you even care about Trump? Unless you can make the case that Trump is worse than Hillary. Your end game is the same – you get Hillary.

  • TrojanMan

    Avoiding the fact your boy just said he doesn’t want “nevertrump”? He might be the first presidential candidate to say he does not want people voting for him. I very much doubt hitlery is telling bernie supporters to not vote for her. You boy just vindicated us from his disastrous defeat or disastrous presidency.

    Once you come to terms that Trump is a turd and will do more damage than good you can start the healing process. Come to the light, come to the side of good, we have cookies.

    BTW the “I dont care” means i do not care who you vote for because our country is f’ed either way. That in no way means i wont call out Trump on his BS.

    Also why does the person who thinks moonbattery and its supporters are “hillary-enablers” keep coming back here? I think you are a masochist and enjoy the torture that we inflict on you. Have a swell day 🙂

  • KirklesWorth

    You have nothing, you “don’t care”, and you are attacking Trump and his supporters. These are contradictions bordering on lies. You explain to me what a “conservative” should do, and I will continue to address your points.

    “Trump is a turd and will do more damage than good” – no proof.

    BTW the “I dont care” means i do not care who you vote for because our country is f’ed either way.

    You just contradicted yourself in a single sentence.

    Also why does the person who thinks moonbattery and its supporters are “hillary-enablers” keep coming back here?

    You just contradicted yourself in a single sentence.

    I think you are a masochist and enjoy the torture that we inflict on you. Have a swell day 🙂

    That’s what you think eh? Well you know what they say about opinions. I’m trying to avoid the torture Hillary will inflict on the country, but you seem to have already embraced it.

  • 762×51

    Always when you least expect it ass licker so anytime you think you what it takes. I always enjoy showing up you tRump pussies.

  • 762×51

    Ohh, I’m wounded, LMFAO!!

    Poor wrinkledick. So you still haven’t go that sand out of your vagina, I see.

    You are one big pussy.

  • KirklesworthVagina

    Being an admitted shill for the Republican Establishment, you would know. I assume this is just a hobby when you aren’t actually sucking “the Donalds” tiny dick

    KirklesWorth, aka, Sandy Vagina, LMAO!.

  • KirklesworthtakesaStrapon

    What’s not to enjoy, ridiculing such a little douche is great fun. The moron thinks he outrun me by blocking my screen name. I wonder how many blocks he put in place.

  • TrojanMan

    “You have nothing,” Denial

    Why does the person who thinks moonbattery and its supporters are “hillary-enablers” keep coming back here? Cant answer it can you which is why you revert to liberal debate tactics. LOL how does a question contradict anything?!?!?! HAHAHAHA

    “Is the sky blue?” “You contradicted yourself!!!” HAHAH you are too funny. You are so far up Trumps ass can you even see daylight?

    Trying to debate you fits the definition of insanity and will never amount to anything, therefore i am done playing.

    I will continue to denounce all liberals and progressives who would further lay waste to what is left of this republic.(Trump, Clinton, Johnson et al)

    You may have the last word. Good Day.

  • KirklesWorth

    Why are you so obsessed with me psycho-troll? I don’t swing that way. Don’t you have some hajjis to smoke or some progressives to kill? Psycho-troll block #3.

  • FrozenPatriot

    I don’t care about Trump. I care that people who call themselves Republicans have nominated a statist progressive like Trump. If nobody explains reality to these people with sufficiently small words, they will not learn any lessons. Apparently my words aren’t small enough yet.

    I was going to ask why you never respond to any of my points, but I now realize my mistake of invoking overly-prodigious vocabulary.

  • KirklesWorth

    Please – what do you have – you obviously have the answer – what is it? Please! The country needs your conservative solution!

    Let’s see, “Moonbattery”, root word “moonbat” ˈmo͞onˌbat/ noun: a person with extreme left-wing political views.

    Now, who does that sound like? I don’t think that the left-wing loves Trump… Moonbat, heal thyself.

    No need to gamble on Trump being better than Hillary, just embrace the great Hillary-ness to come and try to blame Trump supporters somehow. Brilliant.

  • Tchhht!!!

    Well good morning Peashooter. I see you’ve had your full dose of mean pills today.

  • KirklesWorth

    I don’t care about Trump. I care that people who call themselves Republicans have nominated a statist progressive like Trump. If nobody explains reality to these people with sufficiently small words, they will not learn any lessons. Apparently my words aren’t small enough yet.

    Oh yes please, make your words smaller to somehow help you avoid helping Hillary. At this point your “people who call themselves Republicans” “care” is irrelevant. You conveniently overlook other conservative principles like liberty, freedom, personal responsibility, national defense, etc. in assisting Hillary’s cause.

    I was going to ask why you never respond to any of my points, but I now realize my mistake of invoking overly-prodigious vocabulary.

    Okay, we can go there. You mean a “clever response” like this one you made:

    KirklesWorth: Which candidate are you championing?

    As for the nonsense of championing a presidential candidate, this is exactly the problem I’ve explained to you. Like pearls before swine I suppose…

    Oh yes, your “responses” are so wonderful. So champion nobody, attack Trump. And the point of that would be…?

    Ooh, and yes, your vocabulary is very prodigious (and impressive).

  • 762×51

    Progressives like Dumpy and wrinkledick don’t care about facts, they are Progressives who only care about their agenda. win at any cost, regardless of the damage it does to the country. They are just a pair of sniveling pussies who need a strongman, which they perceive tRump to be, to implement their fascistic dreams.

  • kirklesworthLovesDick

    LOL, Larry, Moe and Curly, together again. You three are just precious!

  • KirklesWorth

    Look at all of the work you go through to get my attention! How precious! I’m sure everybody here is so impressed! But really, I’m no substitute for your mommy’s breast. Psycho-troll block #4

  • KirklesworthLovesDick

    Oh well, if they named it “Conservative Review”, it MUST be solid. I mean it’s not like they have John McCain or Lindsey Graham on their board, . . . . wait, they DO have them. LMFAO! WrinkleDick, your idiocy is Stupid-endous.

    How’s that block working out for ya, Sandy?

  • KirklesworthisHIV+

    Ummm, no stupid, he means your cult leader tRump.

    Damn Sandy, you are the dumbest SOB on the Internet.

  • kirklesworthEatsShit

    LMFAO, More sand in that vagina. Hilarious!!

    Hey wrinkledick, you should try blocking me, ROTFLMAO!!

  • KirklesWorth

    Your trolling skills are quite impressive! And you can add stalking to the list as well! Mommy will be so proud. Psycho-troll block #5.

  • 762×51

    Oh you haven’t seen mean yet, ass breath. Pussies like you always run screaming when it gets mean.

    Nice of you to come to kirklesworthless rescue. He can dish it out but he can’t take, just the rest of you Trumpanzee vermin.

    You two have a nice night of rubbing wieners?

  • kirklesworthisHillarysBitch

    Because you asked for it douchebag. Been a while since there were any hajjis around to put bullets in. I would have some Progressives to kill if you and the other Trumpanzee filth had any balls, but you don’t, which is how you GOT SAND IN YOUR VAGINA!!

  • KirklesWorth

    Well, at least I get to put a delay in psycho-troll’s routine and distract him/her for harassing other people. Keep ’em comin’! By all means, keep helping Hillary! Psycho-troll block #6.

  • Tchhht!!!

    Hey come on Peashooter give with the idle death threats. I need a good laugh.

  • Tchhht!!!

    Hey Peashooter, I noticed you don’t have an avatar. I found you a real nice one. It’s your unit patch…

  • I’m in shock that so many have simply accepted Cankles as our next president, rather than holding their noses and pulling the handle for Trump in an effort – however futile it may be – to derail the Clinton machine. Principles are one thing, but I doubt America has enough time to wait for that “perfect conservative” to run.

  • KirklesWorth

    The current conspiracy theory is that Trump doesn’t want to win and will withdraw and Hillary will give him a big payout (because Trump is greedy and will forsake his country, right?). The problem is, their scenario will end up with Hillary either way so what have they got to lose if they risk Trump being partially conservative instead of the known Hillary progressive-liberal-socialism?

  • Torcer

    Thank you – in some ways I hope she sticks around so that the full brunt of our condemnation at her forcing Trump on US and driving away support can be felt by her.

  • Torcer

    They also don’t care about his dropping in the polls and his other unforced errors… if they truly supported the man these reports should bother them… but they don’t.

  • SNuss

    And how does electing Hillary help, other than destroying our Republic even more quickly? At least Trump promises to nominate conservative judges. He may get tired of the political B.S., and not run in four years. IMHO, we are better with him, than with her. And, we may lose some of the establishment RINOs in the process.

  • Occam’s Stubble

    The jury is still out on what kills the GOP faster, the presidency of Trump or Hillary.

  • SNuss

    With Hillary, the answer is certain.

  • KirklesWorth

    Don’t bother pretending that you care about what Trump-supporters think. We are bothered that anti-Trump Hillary-enablers will get Hillary elected.

  • KirklesWorth

    Wow…I forced Trump on you? I must be magnanimous. And here I thought we were following election laws. I can’t drive away support that isn’t already here.

  • KirklesWorth

    You and I might think so, but around here you’d be surprised.

  • 762×51

    DOH! You forgot to attach whatever picture you were planning for this insult. Major fail!

    Try again ass licker, LMFAO!

  • 762×51

    An offer of single, mutual combat is not a death threat you fucking simpleton. Only Progressives see it that way and you do all march in lock step, it is one of your defining characteristics.

    As impotent as your “attacks” against me have been, I can already tell you are one of the bigger pussies in that group. A major feat considering that all of you chicken out once challenged.

    Are you saying you would accept such a challenge and actually show up to carry it out?

  • Tchhht!!!

    Well Peashooter, everyone else can see it. You gotta quit smoking those blunts.

  • 762×51

    Blind, lock step ideological agenda, a defining characteristic of all Progressives, regardless of “party” is all they care about or understand. They can never question that agenda or its underlying ideology which is why they can never allow the rest of us to question it. Listening to doubt may raise doubts in their weak minds

    Cultural Marxism, which is what Progressive ideology is at its core, is totalitarian as every Marxist county in history has demonstrated, such as Venezuela is demonstrating today. It is unrealistic to expect these vermin to even accept the reality of their cult leader dropping in the polls, they simply reject the facts, another defining characteristic of Progressives. It is far easier to attack the messenger of those facts, you and Dave Blount, yet another defining characteristic of Progressives.

    It is clear to me who we are dealing with here, a Progressive is a Progressive, regardless of party. They are all enemies of the United States and should be dealt with accordingly.

  • kirklesworthSuckstRump

    I don’t care what your turds think, I only care that you believe you are entitled to force that “thinking”, and I use the term loosely, on everyone else.

    This election should have been a cakewalk. The Obama economy is the worst since the 1930’s, the Obama foreign policy has set the world on fire. Hillary Clinton is one of the worst people who has ever lived and yet YOU ASSHOLES managed to find an even bigger asshole than Hillary Clinton to run against her. Not us, zit licker, YOU. YOUR mistake has enabled Hillary Clinton, we had nothing to do with it. Blaming us only demonstrates your Progressive ideology. See you on the battlefield, little man.

    Go fuck yourself.

  • kirklesworthLicksASS

    Troll block #5, LMFAO!! You troll MB then block a decade long poster as a troll, that is fucking hilarious!

    Didn’t they teach you anything at Infowars? Except shallow minded conspiracy theories, that is.

    That sand is really getting to you, ROTFLMAO!

  • kirklesworthBathHouseWhore

    You have already ensured Hillary will be elected by forcing someone you identify with, a complete and total ASSHOLE, onto the ticket.

    The twelve million Democrats that helped you elect tRump won’t be there for you on Nov 8th, stupid. You fucktards own this fiasco, lock, stock and barrel.

    You think this affects me in any way?, LMFAO!! Delay? LOLOLOL. You are pathetic, so is your boy.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/polls-clinton-ahead-trump-midwest-battlegrounds-n626541

  • 762×51

    Oh it’s going be epic. The abuse I’m planning will increase by at least an order of magnitude.

  • kirklesworthLonesPenis

    You were following your cult leader, along with 12 million Democrats. THAT is how you managed to force tRump on us. Well, you wanted it, you got it, now eat it, jackass.

    You make an excellent drone.

  • 762×51

    RIIIIGHT, you magically made so only I can’t see it.

    You really suck at this.

  • Tchhht!!!

    Oh sure you didn’t see it. More like it hit too close to home but you aren’t man enough to admit it.

  • KirklesWorth

    Oh, I did that did I? All by myself? Wow. Otherwise, I guess you must have contempt for our voting system. Psycho-troll block #10

  • KirklesWorth

    So the nominating process means nothing to you. Your unnamed candidate couldn’t cut it – too bad. I guess that means your candidate sucked worse than Trump.

    And it’s all my mistake, eh? You are so irrational that you will let Hillary keep 11 million illegal aliens, no border enforcement, illegal aliens obtaining rights and citizenships, increased gun control, more gun background checks, “assault weapons” ban, softer law enforcement, expanding Obamacare, no school vouchers, green energy debacles, global warming nonsense, offshore drilling banned, fracking banned, Keystone pipeline banned, more “stimulus” spending, increased EPA regulations, higher minimum wage…should I go on?

    So go ahead and be a progressive and give all those rights away to Hillary, traitor. Psycho-troll block #12.

  • Torcer

    Someone else made the comment the other day that one reason they have departed the GOP and won’t vote for Donald is directly because of the childish antics of certain ‘Donald supporters’.

    Which given how they act is most likely their desired result.

  • Torcer

    Sadly, I suspect most of them will run away before that eventuality takes place.

    That still will not save them from their guilt at what they did to this great nation.

  • Torcer

    Is that a good strategy when Trump does it?

  • Torcer

    And now Trump is part of the establishment – is that why you attack anyone who might support the man?

  • Torcer

    Gotta love those Comrades who attack Conservatives and drive them away from supporting Trump and risk a Hillary presidency.

  • Torcer

    Perhaps if you were informed…

  • Torcer

    And once again it FAILED to address the issues raised.

    Clearly it doesn’t care about Trump’s plunging poll numbers

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth

    If Trump needs conservative voters, he should continue to alienate establishment republicans in favor of Tea Party candidates

    Isn’t that what you are doing?

  • Torcer

    Sadly you don’t know about metaphors.. bu that is to be expected given that you can’t actually debate like an adult.

  • KirklesWorth

    Not necessarily. He should have learned from Ted Cruz.

  • KirklesWorth

    Oh yes, those pesky “metaphors” I don’t understand. Well, thanks for absolving me of the blame. I guess it could be partly Ted Cruz’s fault for screwing up and burning bridges…oops, sorry.

  • Torcer

    No, you are partially to blame.. hopefully you can sleep at night.

  • Torcer

    Trump is the chief purveyor of those kinds of childish antics – and he projects it on others.

  • KirklesWorth

    You are in error…you have nothing. Don’t go around making false accusations you have zero proof of.

  • KirklesWorth

    Wow…I did that? I must be awesome! Good thing you are here to “punish” us with Hillary!

    Current psycho-troll ™ block list: 1. 762×51, 2. KirklesWorthisaDick, 3. KirklesworthtakesaStrapon, 4. kirklesworthLovesDick, 5. kirklesworthEatsShit, 6. kirklesworthisHillarysBitch, 7. kirklesWorthMoron, 8. kirklesworthProgtard, 9. KirklesworthProgressiveTroll, 10. kirklesworthBathHouseWhore, 11. kirklesworthLicksASS, 12. kirklesworthSuckstRump12, 13. kirklesworthEnablesHillary, 14. kirklesWorthDickSuckeR, 15. kirklesworthDoomApproaches, 16. kirklesworthSandyVaginA. 17. KirklesworthSpreads4Donald, 18. KirklesworthBlowsDonald, 19. kirklesworthisAPussy, 20. KirklesWorthDoucheBAG, 21. kirklesworthGooseStepping, 22. kirklesworththelittleBitch, 23. kirklesworthLonesPenis

  • Karma’s Janitor

    Define “his side”. It appears republicans can live with Clinton

  • Torcer

    The GOP – isn’t that obvious enough for you?

  • Torcer

    You should follow your own advice.
    Trump is clearly losing – and those who forced him upon the party are to blame.
    And those who continue to ‘support’ him by driving people away such as your self are still culpable.

    And as usual you weren’t able to address the substance of my comment.

  • Karma’s Janitor

    what is apparent is that the leaders of the congress dont endorse him and dozens have called the RNC to stop funding … pretty obvious meh

  • Torcer

    Why was he attacking his own side?

  • KirklesWorth

    Why did they desert first?

  • Torcer

    Irrelevant.

    Why was he attacking his own side?

  • Karma’s Janitor

    the same reason he beat the entire field of GOP, they haven’t been doing what they are supposed to do, the voters chose him because they are a bunch of rhinos. lame

  • Torcer

    Try answering a question for once instead of deflecting it.

  • KirklesWorth

    Right…it’s “irrelevant” that conservatives bailed on Trump. How about if we go this way:

    Question: Why was he attacking his own side?
    Answer: Because they (conservatives) bailed on him.

    Makes more sense now, right?

  • Torcer

    That refers to just after he attained the numbers for the nomination – now please answer the question.

    Why was he attacking his own side?

  • KirklesWorth

    Answer: Because they (conservatives) bailed on him.

  • Torcer

    Just after he attained the nomination?
    Please cite who you are referring to.

  • KirklesWorth

    You.

  • Torcer

    TRY AGAIN.
    Doesn’t it make sense for the nominee to unite the party.

  • KirklesWorth

    You tell me. How did Ted Cruz do?

  • Torcer

    Answer the question please:

    Doesn’t it make sense for the nominee to unite the party?

  • KirklesWorth

    Sorry, my question “Why did they desert first?” was in the queue way before yours. So, why did they desert first?

  • Torcer

    If you want to play that game I’ve had this question ‘in the queue’ for quite some time:

    KirklesWorth
    Sure I can – and I have. You just think you’re the arbiter of the “quality” or “quantity” of the support. You’ve done no advocating of your own, so yours is even worse. More typical nothing from Hillary-enablers.
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=74910#comment-2827220300

    http://disq.us/p/1ar9558

    KirklesWorth Sure I can – and I have.

    The please post excerpts of those reasons – aside from your perfunctory non-answer

    Now, since I’ve answered your questions – you are obligated to answer mine: Doesn’t it make sense for the nominee to unite the party?

  • KirklesWorth

    LOL! I asked you “Why did they desert first?” and your answer was “irrelevant”. If that is an “acceptable” answer, I will use “irrelevant” to whatever question you ask!

  • Torcer

    Again: If you want to play that game I’ve had this question ‘in the queue’ for quite some time:

    KirklesWorth
    Sure I can – and I have. You just think you’re the arbiter of the “quality” or “quantity” of the support. You’ve done no advocating of your own, so yours is even worse. More typical nothing from Hillary-enablers.
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=74910#comment-2827220300

    http://disq.us/p/1ar9558

    KirklesWorth Sure I can – and I have.

    The please post excerpts of those reasons – aside from your perfunctory non-answer

    Now, since I’ve answered your questions – you are obligated to answer mine: Doesn’t it make sense for the nominee to unite the party?

  • KirklesWorth

    My answer? I am a Trump supporter who isn’t concerned with polls and campaigns at this stage of the game.

    Please correct any of these observations of you:

    1. Anti-Trump
    2. Supposed anti-Hillary
    3. Supposed pro-McMullin
    4. Supposed pro-liberty

    So in this scenario, continuing to attack Trump:

    1. Hurts Trump
    2. Helps Hillary
    3. Helps McMullin

    So if McMullin can’t gather enough votes by November, your anti-Trump rhetoric:

    1. Hurts Trump
    2. Helps Hillary

    So who will we thank if Hillary becomes president?

  • Torcer

    My response is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75389#comment-2848753944
    Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum…..

  • KirklesWorth

    You didn’t “eviscerate” squat. http://moonbattery.com/?p=75389#comment-2848799592

  • Torcer

    My response is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75389#comment-2848753944
    Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum…..

  • KirklesWorth

    And since you continue this ridiculous dual-posting, my response is here: http://moonbattery.com/?p=75389#comment-2848799592

  • Torcer

    My response is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75389#comment-2848753944
    Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum…..

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