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Aug 10 2016

Trump: “My Temperament Has Gotten Me Here”

The time is past for those clinging to the increasingly delusional hope that Trump will abruptly transform himself from an obnoxious jackass into a responsible adult to face the grim reality of what those who voted for him in the primaries have done to us. Here the Donald confirms that he has no intention of even trying to grow up, not that he would be able to anyway:

On a tip from Torcer.



  • FrozenPatriot

    More accurately, Trump’s willingness to lie to and about people got him this far, however I suppose that could be a part of his temperament…

  • Ed. G. Mann

    Why not go look up what is happening to Cruz. That bunghole has a good chance of getting a primary opponent with solid conservative creds and a high popularity rating in Texas. So much for the GOPe.

    Keep reading those national polls. You don’t have a clue what questions were asked, the breakdown of the respondents and where they were asked. They could have polled the newsroom for all you know.

    Poll answers aren’t votes, they’re wishes and worth as much.

  • Tchhht!!!

    Well, one can speculate but you never know. Ryan won his primary against challenger Nehlen. Ryan got 84% of the vote.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/08/09/wisconsin-primary-challenge-results-thread-and-open-discussion/

  • KirklesWorth

    “On a tip from Torcer.” Who’d have thought. Moonbattery’s #2 Hillary enabler. And Dave Blount dutifully editorializes as #1.

  • Torcer

    Trump and the Art of the Squander
    August 10, 2016
    Donald Trump’s campaign reset was barely 24 hours old when he ventured off script and into the familiar territory of controversy, squandering his chances of changing the political conversation yet again.
    [..]
    The gaffe was the latest in a series by the nominee since the end of the party conventions: criticizing a Gold Star family, taunting the speaker of the House, and connecting his Democratic opponent to the execution of an Iranian scientist. The errors have helped erode Trump’s poll numbers, which show him slipping behind Clinton nationally and in key battleground states.
    [..]
    “Primaries are the practice. Now he has to expand his base, turn these numbers around, and go after these coalitional groups that aren’t supporting him. And you can’t just go out and do big rallies or go on Fox and CNN and make that happen,” says Ed Rollins, a veteran GOP aide who is advising a pro-Trump super PAC. “That takes advertising and ground organization — none of which he has at this point.”

    Analysis by NBC News shows the Clinton campaign outspending Trump on ads $52 million to zero, even after a substantial fundraising haul by the GOP nominee last month. Trump won the most contested GOP primary in history without spending much money on campaigning or advertising, but that strategy so far isn’t paying off in the general election. During the Olympics, Clinton is running ads reaching millions of viewers, and they’re unanswered by Trump. Even in a new media age, advertising in some way would help Trump alter course, some analysts say.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/08/10/trump_and_the_art_of_the_squander_131470.html

  • Torcer

    One-in-five U.S. Republicans want Trump to drop out: Reuters/Ipsos poll
    Nearly one-fifth of registered Republicans want Donald Trump to drop out of the race for the White House, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Wednesday, reflecting the turmoil his candidacy has sown within his party.

    Some 19 percent think the New York real estate magnate should drop out, 70 percent think he should stay in and 10 percent say they “don’t know,” according to the Aug. 5-8 poll of 396 registered Republicans. The poll has a confidence interval of six percentage points.

    Among all registered voters, some 44 percent want Trump to drop out. That is based on a survey of 1,162 registered voters, with a confidence interval of 3 percentage points. That is 9 points higher than his support for the presidency in the latest Reuters/Ipsos tracking poll registered on Monday.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN10L0YS

  • Torcer

    Trump is on course to lose this election in a disastrous landslide and yet certain ‘Trump supporters’ don’t seem to care – why is this the case?

    The national socialist media favoured Trump with billions of free media during the primaries – and this engenders nary a concern with supposed ‘Trump supporters’.

    Millions of Democrats voted for Trump during the primaries and supported him on social media with their SJW tactics attacking Conservatives who dared speak out – but this doesn’t engender any worries from those who purport to support Trump.

    ALL of these should be worrisome to those who truly support Trump.

  • KirklesWorth

    Why isn’t this article titled “Seven-in-ten U.S. Republicans want Trump to stay in”? Why the negative spin? Hmmm… Where is Reuters’ poll on how many people want Hillary out? Why, I can’t seem to locate it.

    Where are the polls on Torcer’s candidate Darrell Castle?

  • KirklesWorth

    Why do anit-Trump Hillary-enablers care? They will get their precious Hillary either way.

    Hillary is on course to win this election in a disastrous lack of “conservative” support and yet certain anti-Trump Hillary enablers don’t seem to care – why is this the case?

    The national socialist media favoured Trump with billions of free media during the primaries

    LOL…sorry, that is just too ridiculous to mimic.

    ALL of these should be worrisome to those who truly support freedom.

  • KirklesWorth

    Oh no, another gaffe…only Trump makes gaffes so he must be throwing the race!

    Oh no, Trump isn’t advertising and the election is only three months away! He better spend…spend…spend so that the mainstream media can make lots of money! He must be throwing the race!

  • FrozenPatriot

    The 20% of Republicans figure doesn’t include people like me who have been alienated by the statist trend in the Republican wing of the big-government uniparty, and have officially changed our party affiliation — largely because of Trump’s myriad obnoxious, petulant supporters.

  • Kevcar

    Anybody that says Cruz isn’t a solid conservative is either beyond stupid or a flat out liar. Oh yes, Cruz is such an establishment republican that Preibus would rather back t rump than Cruz.

  • Kevcar

    Kevcar
    a few seconds ago
    Anybody that says Cruz isn’t a solid conservative is either beyond stupid or a flat out liar. Oh yes, Cruz is such an establishment republican that Preibus would rather back t rump than Cruz.

  • FrozenPatriot

    If you’re so worried about beating Hillary, why did/do you support the most disliked candidate in either primary race — making him the one most likely to lose to her?

    You see, by calling those of us who aren’t going to vote for Trump “Hillary enablers” you’re engaging in projection. By nominating the least liked candidate since such records were kept, you’ve enabled Hillary, not us.

  • FrozenPatriot

    If we’re counting votes, Trump won the nomination with the smallest percentage of primary votes in recent memory, and more people voted against him than any other Republican nominee in history. Votes aren’t polls, but they confirm the polls which show Trump as the most disliked candidate since such records have been kept.

  • KirklesWorth

    Sounds troubling. What’s your projected outcome?

  • KirklesWorth

    “No Trump = president Hillary”. Questions?

  • TrojanMan

    LOL Do you live in Texas? The only senator from Texas that is trouble of losing is the RINO Cornyn. Cruz is loved in Texas and Cornyn is despised.

  • TrojanMan

    “attacking Trump for weeks or months” Since he announced. Remember your boy absolved anti-trumpers of his impending colossal failure from his own mouth. “I don’t want them” Great we did not want you either. Everyone is happy. 🙂

  • KirklesWorth

    “No Trump = president Hillary”. Questions?

  • TrojanMan

    “You got nothing”

  • KirklesWorth

    I’ve got Trump. You’ve got nothing – until Hillary.

  • Occam’s Stubble

    why is this the case?

    Because certain Trump supporters told us Trump did not need our votes. Therefore, we can blissfully sit this one out and enjoy the fun.

  • TrojanMan

    I hope you two are very happy with each other. Dodging your boy absolving anti-trumpers eh?

  • TrojanMan

    “Because certain Trump supporters told us Trump did not need our votes. ”

    Orange Julius said it from his own mouth last night. “I do not want them”

  • KirklesWorth

    Okay, he “absolved” them. So? And I hope you won’t have to endure anything with Hillary. You’re welcome.

  • Torcer

    And KirklesWorth is doing it’s level best to drive them away with it’s incessant attacks.

    Note that it Failed to even address the points I made.

  • KirklesWorth

    Oh, so you put your mind at ease for president Hillary because Trump absolved you. I see. He conveniently gave you an excuse not to defend liberty and freedom while also allowing you to leave the blame at his feet. Sweet deal for you “conservatives”.

  • KirklesWorth

    Sure I did – I rewrote parts of the article for fun.

  • Torcer

    You mean like the one who is obsessed and follows me around attacking me at every turn.

    I suspect that is the very reason some are doing that..

  • KirklesWorth

    Aww, you mean I can’t defend the republican candidate in a public forum from constant attacks from anti-Trump Hillary enablers? And here I thought you were attacking Trump and his supporters first.

  • Two2trees

    I didn’t know that there was a republican candidate.

  • KirklesWorth

    Oh, well no wonder you are so anti-Trump – you don’t even know the obvious. Here you go. https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates

  • Grumpy Cat

  • Grumpy Cat

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  • Grumpy Cat

    ,,,

  • I completely understand, as I feel the same about Trump. Calling him a horse’s ass is an insult to horses. But there is a harsh reality to face – there is no way to defeat Hillary without voting for Trump. Period. We do have some options. One is to stay home on election day and watch Hillary roll to victory. Or you could hope that one of those fringe party candidates will suddenly surge from a few percentage points of the popular vote to 51%, but odds are you would have a better chance of winning every single state lottery on the same night. The Republicans have already lost by nominating a buffoon like Trump. Why compound that loss by giving the election to Hillary?

  • Feet2Fire
  • Feet2Fire

    BTW, there’s a reason why Team Trump always plays “YOU CAN’T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT” at the end of Trump rallies. It’s a way of saying, “Sure, the choice is not perfect, but you’d better vote for Trump because a Hillary Admin will be oh, so much worse.”

    “BUT IF YOU TRY SOMETIME, YOU JUST MIGHT FIND,
    YOU GET WHAT YOU NEED.”

  • Feet2Fire

    It’s too late to “worry.” Just Vote for Trump and stop sabotaging his efforts. The ONLY alternative is a Hillary Admin, and there goes America, straight into an irretrievable hell on earth.

  • Feet2Fire

    It’s just immature nonsense to think that “sitting this one out, you can enjoy the fun.”

    Time to pull on the big-boy pants and
    Vote for Trump, or suffer the evil Clinton consequences.

  • Feet2Fire

    He was referring to the Elite Establishment Repubs who are sabotaging him, and not referring to voters.

    And BTW why do people persist with this goofy, adolescent “ORANGE” reference? The man is what he is. Get over it. He’s a dang sight better than Hillary Queen of Corruption, and THAT is the choice:

    EITHER HILLARY OR TRUMP.

  • Feet2Fire

    LOL.

  • TrojanMan

    If the republicans have already lost by nominating Trump as you have said what would the purpose TO vote for him? Not voting Trump would send a clear message to the GOP we are tired or progressive RINO candidates.

  • Ed. G. Mann
  • Ed. G. Mann

    I have no idea what your comment has to do with what I said. I never said anything about Cruz’s positions. But read this to find out what I was saying.
    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/08/09/the-gathering-storm-against-ted-cruz-n2203114

  • Ed. G. Mann

    As with the rest of the commenters below, here is the place from where I got the information.
    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/08/09/the-gathering-storm-against-ted-cruz-n2203114

    I said nothing about Cornyn, only that Cruz may have primary challenges.

  • Occam’s Stubble

    What makes you think he will defend liberty and freedom?

  • KirklesWorth
  • TrojanMan

    “I said nothing about Cornyn” Never said you did. I was just explaining that Cruz will not have a real challenge in the primary but the other Texas senator might. We loathe Cornyn.

    “The Texas senator may be hated, but in his home state, he still runs the table electorally.” Exactly!

    “His approval with Republicans took a nosedive after his convention address” Even better

  • kirklesworthEnablesHillary

    Why do tRump dick suckers like wrinkledick care if tRump doesn’t need Conservatives? Right, because he knows his boy can’t win. Wrinkledick only participates in this scam to get Hillary elected otherwise why would he be pushing the candidate in the country with higher negatives that Hillary?

  • Occam’s Stubble

    Now if we could only see that chart with Donald’s positions from two years ago.

  • kirklesworthENABLESHillary

    Again with the hate for “conservatives” you fascist Progressive dick sucker.

    If you are so against Hillary, why are you working so feverishly to push the only person in the country who people dislike more than Hillary?

    Your boy isn’t ahead now and will most likely lose to what is apparently the SECOND most dislike-able asshole alive today. That is the political; reality today. If tRump were even half the candidate you claim he is he would pulling ahead of Hillary in a walk. Instead he is losing ground, because he is an asshole who was elected by assholes.

    If tRump loses to Hillary it will be because he sucks even more than she does and every time you fascist fucks open your sperm receptacles, you convince even more people to reject tRump.

    You want to see a Hillary enabler, look in the mirror, asshole.

  • 762×51

    It’s a fascist and is acting out its wildest dreams lording over everyone it can find who will listen to it. Wrinkledick is one of the biggest Hillary enablers out there. It gets much of its “knowledge” from Alex Jones and Infowars, which probably doesn’t surprise you.

    An asshole pushing an asshole as a candidate against an asshole, kind of sums up the world in which we live. How comical is its smug, arrogant, shallow intellect?

  • kirklesworthEnablesHitlery

    The question is “hows YOUR candidate polling?” Oh that’s right, he is LOSING to Hillary Clinton because he is a bigger asshole than even she is.

    How can ANYONE be so stupid that they can lose to Hillary Clinton? At least you are still smug about it, LMAO!

  • KirklesWorthSucksASS

    No, he means YOU SUCK AT IT!!!

  • 762×51

    In name only. The Trumpanzees are so pissed at the RINO’s that they elected a RINO to spite them.

    That’ll show’em.

  • 762×51

    Looking in the mirror again, idiot?

  • 762×51

    The question is, tRump has been a Democrat more of his life than he has been a Republican. He has backed Progressive causes regardless of his then party affiliation. If he was so sure he could beat Hillary, why didn’t he run against her in the Democrat Primary?

    You notice the little chickenshit doesn’t have the courage to call anyone, especially me, a Hillary enabler to my face.

  • kirklesWorthDickSuckeR

    I have a question. When you are sucking tRumps dick, do you get paid by the hour or the inch?

    Figured I’d ask something was actually within your realm of expertise since you don’t know shit otherwise.

  • 762×51

    Wrinkledick has only been on this site for less than three months. He is a NOOB troll which explains why he sucks at so bad.

  • KirklesworthBlowsDonald

    I have a question. Does tRyump supply the knee pads you wear while sucking his dick or do you have pay for them yourself?

    Again, a question can answer given your experience.

  • KirklesWorth

    Yeah, voting for Trump enables Hillary. What a ridiculous statement “kirklesworthEnablesHillary”.

    No wonder 762×51 gets so much respect around here – he/she is the epitome of honor, virtue, integrity, and nobility. Just look at all the work he/she goes through to bypass my blocks for my attention. I am honored to have such a devoted associate! Let’s review his/her personas I have blocked so far:

    1. 762×51
    2. KirklesWorthisaDick
    3. KirklesworthtakesaStrapon
    4. kirklesworthLovesDick
    5. kirklesworthEatsShit
    6. kirklesworthisHillarysBitch
    7. kirklesWorthMoron
    8. kirklesworthProgtard
    9. KirklesworthProgressiveTroll
    10. kirklesworthBathHouseWhore
    11. kirklesworthLicksASS
    12. kirklesworthSuckstRump12
    13. kirklesworthEnablesHillary

  • KirklesworthSpreads4Donald

    How precious, you have Donald. You lovebirds be sure to get a room . . . . . so the rest of us don’t vomit.

  • kirklesworthDoomApproaches

    You don’t like how I’ve treated you so far? Wait until your boy loses to Hillary. As they say, “you ain’t seen nothing yet”.

  • KirklesWorth

    Ah yes, those good old middle-school days when you could act like a jerk and people would actually laugh. Too bad it’s all just so pathetically childish now. Current psycho-troll block list ™:

    1. 762×51
    2. KirklesWorthisaDick
    3. KirklesworthtakesaStrapon
    4. kirklesworthLovesDick
    5. kirklesworthEatsShit
    6. kirklesworthisHillarysBitch
    7. kirklesWorthMoron
    8. kirklesworthProgtard
    9. KirklesworthProgressiveTroll
    10. kirklesworthBathHouseWhore
    11. kirklesworthLicksASS
    12. kirklesworthSuckstRump12
    13. kirklesworthEnablesHillary
    14. kirklesWorthDickSuckeR

  • 762×51

    Yeah, shoot the messenger, right “libertarian”?

    LMAO, Eddie G Spot, the Libertarian Fascist, hilarious.

    You phony chickenshit fuck.

  • KirklesWorth

    Current psycho-troll ™ block list:

    1. 762×51
    2. KirklesWorthisaDick
    3. KirklesworthtakesaStrapon
    4. kirklesworthLovesDick
    5. kirklesworthEatsShit
    6. kirklesworthisHillarysBitch
    7. kirklesWorthMoron
    8. kirklesworthProgtard
    9. KirklesworthProgressiveTroll
    10. kirklesworthBathHouseWhore
    11. kirklesworthLicksASS
    12. kirklesworthSuckstRump12
    13. kirklesworthEnablesHillary
    14. kirklesWorthDickSuckeR
    15. kirklesworthDoomApproaches

  • 762×51

    Eddie G Spot lives in the Carolinas where he is universally despised. He is a doddering old fool with dreams of imposing his fascist agenda before he croaks. His death will make the world a better place.

  • 762×51

    Eddie G Spot said that and you are correct, he is a pathological liar just like every other Progressive.

  • 762×51

    Conservative Treehouse?!?! THAT”S your documentation?? LMFAO!!

    No wonder you and kirklesworthless enjoy rubbing wieners. He;s an Alex Jones follower so he is slightly more ignorant than you, but not much. Nice Trumpanzee avatar.

  • kirklesworthSandyVaginA

    ROTFLMFAO!!!!

    Keep score douchebag. When the count gets to 100,000,000, SELL!! LMAO!

    How’s that block workin out for ya?!? LOL!

  • kirklesWorthlessScoreKeeper

    Too bad you can’t keep up pussy. Keep blocking me, I’ve got millions of variations to use on you yet.

  • TrojanMan

    LOL those are some good ones

  • kirklesworthisPathetic

    LMAO, you are just funny, pathetic, yet funny.

    Forcing tRump on everyone is what created this scenario asshole. If you assholes had not done that, this situation would not exist and a real candidate could have defeated her instead of this imploding sideshow clown.

  • 762×51

    He is such an easy target. I really like pound him, not the same way “the Donald” does, of course.

    He made a big show about how he “blocked” me, LOL. Hope it works out for him, LMAO.

  • KirklesWorth

    Current psycho-troll ™ block list:

    1. 762×51
    2. KirklesWorthisaDick
    3. KirklesworthtakesaStrapon
    4. kirklesworthLovesDick
    5. kirklesworthEatsShit
    6. kirklesworthisHillarysBitch
    7. kirklesWorthMoron
    8. kirklesworthProgtard
    9. KirklesworthProgressiveTroll
    10. kirklesworthBathHouseWhore
    11. kirklesworthLicksASS
    12. kirklesworthSuckstRump12
    13. kirklesworthEnablesHillary
    14. kirklesWorthDickSuckeR
    15. kirklesworthDoomApproaches
    16. kirklesworthSandyVaginA
    17. KirklesworthSpreads4Donald
    18. KirklesworthBlowsDonald

  • Ed. G. Mann

    A day late-five bucks short and still a loser. No wonder they keep you chained to the tree at the back end of the trailer park.

  • Torcer

    1. When did you become aware of ALL of Trump’s flaws and foibles?
    2. How many candidates are running for that office?

  • Torcer

    Yes, instead of trying to tout Trump’s advantages it resorts to SJW tactics attacking those who are truly concerned about the direction of the nation.

  • Torcer

    Feet2Fire
    Vote for Trump and stop sabotaging his efforts.
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75040#comment-2831457495

    Perhaps Trump should stop sabotaging his efforts….

  • Torcer

    pic.twitter.com/brwV19uQTt

  • Torcer

    Projection at it’s finest..

  • Torcer

    You should realize that stating it that way doesn’t necessarily make it untrue.

  • Torcer

    No, Instead of ‘defending’ the man you incessantly harass those who dare point out the man’s issues.

  • Torcer

    Gee, how did I know you would respond to this with the usual SJW tactic of childish name calling and not actually addressing the questions..

    LOL…sorry, that is just too ridiculous to mimic.

    Are you actually denying that took place?

    TV News Touts Trump, Crushes Cruz and Gives Bernie a Shot at Hillary http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/rich-noyes/2016/05/03/tv-news-touts-trump-crushes-cruz-and-gives-bernie-shot-hillary

    The Prime Time Primary: Trump vs. His Rivals on Cable News http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/rich-noyes/2016/04/18/prime-time-primary-trump-vs-his-rivals-fox-news-cnn-and-msnbc

    Trump Gets A Whopping 5 Times More Airtime Than Cruz On Major Networks | RedState http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/04/04/trump-gets-whopping-5-times-airtime-cruz-major-networks/

    The Amazing Hannity/Trump Romance (VIDEO) | RedState http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/04/04/amazing-hannitytrump-romance/

    Hot Mic Captures Trump Asking ‘Morning Joe’ Hosts For No ‘Too Hard’ Questions (AUDIO)
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/morning-joe-hot-mic-trump-conversation

    Former CNN Anchor: Yes, TV Networks Deserve Blame for the Rise of Trump http://www.mediaite.com/tv/former-cnn-anchor-yes-tv-networks-deserve-blame-for-the-rise-of-trump/ via @mediaite

    ALL of these should be worrisome to those who truly support freedom.

    And yet you don’t seem bothered – that speaks volumes about where you stand.

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth Well, first I rewrote parts of your article for fun.

    So you made things up..

    KirklesWorth And I don’t think that he’ll “need” the votes of “conservatives” that have already decided that Hillary should win.

    KirklesWorth How’s your candidate polling?

    Did you miss the part where I said I hadn’t decided yet?

  • Torcer

    Is that the best you can offer?

  • KirklesWorth

    That’s a possibility. Who should we watching then?

  • KirklesWorth

    Aww, now I can’t have some rewriting fun? You’re so harsh…

    Wait…no Darrell Castle? Now you’ve got nobody? Huh. And after all those times I said it and you denied it…

  • Torcer

    And you have no moral underpinnings.

  • Torcer

    Why is Trump taking those actions?

  • 762×51

    Hell, tRump isn’t even do it. He is such a thin skinned narcissist that he can’t stay on message except for the message about how “yuge” he is. No one gives a crap about that. They need jobs, money, safety, etc. Meanwhile, his surrogates like ol’ wrinkledick keep trying to blame his failures on us. It is tiresome, at best, thanks to the Trumpanzees, I wouldn’t vote for tRump now if you put a gun to my head.

  • kirklesworthisBoring

    Wrinkledick, I have many thousands more for you, LMAO!

  • 762×51

    LOSER!?! AAWWWWWKKKK.

    Very good parrot, squawk for us some more. You smell just like tRump when you do it.

    Have grown any balls yet, coward?

  • Torcer

    I have to think that some of it is on purpose:

    Something is going on with Donald Trump
    he media just can’t shut up about Donald Trump. In no small part, this is because his behavior appears to be inexplicable.

    Where the most gaffe-prone big-league politician might go off the rails once every week or so, Trump does it several times every week, and sometimes several times every day. And where the most gaffe-prone big-league politicians quickly take back their verbal flubs, clarify, and apologize, hoping to move on before inflicting maximal political damage on themselves, Trump invariably doubles down, needlessly dragging out the controversies for endless days.

    Trump wants to lose the election. And he wants to be able to blame someone else for the loss.

    Trump will do absolutely anything to avoid taking the blame for own failures, even (and perhaps especially) when his own actions rightly deserve the blame. And he couldn’t care less about the civically ruinous consequences.
    http://theweek.com/articles/642009/something-going-donald-trump

  • Feet2Fire

    That’d help, too! LOL.
    🙂
    But he’s had so many–media, politicians, Soros!, the Pope!, etc. ad nauseum–sabotaging him every step of the way and he’s (more or less) still standing. Credit where credit’s due…

  • Feet2Fire

    1. non sequitur…

    2. Two. Only top two count. Everything else is a delusional waste of time.

    And “the Mormons et al.” trying to undermine Trump should be ASHAMED of themselves and LAUGHED out of town! LOL.

  • KirklesWorth

    That’s rich coming from somebody helping Hillary to keep 11 million illegal aliens, no border enforcement, illegal aliens obtaining rights and citizenships, increased gun control, more gun background checks, “assault weapons” ban, softer law enforcement, expanding Obamacare, no school vouchers, green energy debacles, global warming nonsense, offshore drilling banned, fracking banned, Keystone pipeline banned, more “stimulus” spending, increased EPA regulations, higher minimum wage, etc..

  • KirklesWorth

    Okay fine, we’ll start using “it” as pronouns. In my post, “it” refers to Torcer. It resorts to no alternative, no solutions, no candidate, nothing. It would allow Hillary to keep 11 million illegal aliens, no border enforcement, illegal aliens obtaining rights and citizenships, increased gun control, more gun background checks, “assault weapons” ban, softer law enforcement, expanding Obamacare, no school vouchers, green energy debacles, global warming nonsense, offshore drilling banned, fracking banned, Keystone pipeline banned, more “stimulus” spending, increased EPA regulations, higher minimum wage…should I go on? Please explain how you are more concerned than I…?

  • KirklesWorth

    That’s way too pragmatic. The anti-Trump Hillary-enablers have to “punish” everyone for making Trump the republican candidate – even if they hand over the country to the progressive-liberal-socialist criminal and her syndicate. Their “conservative ideals” only suit them to a point, and then they’ll give up every liberty and right to soothe their damaged egos. They love to tell us “Trump is wrong” but that have nothing to tell us what is right.

  • KirklesWorth

    Oh, ignoring my question? Okay, I’ll do the same for yours.

  • Torcer

    How many Candidates are on the ballot?

  • Feet2Fire

    Two. Only top two count. Everything else is a delusional waste of time.

  • Torcer

    Nice contradictory answer there..

  • KirklesWorth

    That is one of its tricks – try and get the opponent to do the work for it. I have to respond “I’m not your errand boy” more and more as it tries to put you off on a time-consuming task while it moves on to other things.

    People with integrity know what you mean by the top two candidates, but now it will dismiss you because you didn’t take into account the independents and third-party candidates.

  • Feet2Fire

    Have already stated twice that the other “Johnny Come-Latelys” don’t count. They are a waste of time and a scourge on America, because they know dang well they’re going to help Hillary to win with their egotistical, narcissistic B.S. run for the W.H.

    –Am not wasting time/energy any further to try to WAKE UP the stubborn, blind somnambulists. :

  • Feet2Fire

    Entirely consistent. And remember, “none are so blind as those who WILL NOT SEE.”

    🙂

    TRUMP 2016 (Or HELL ON EARTH)

  • Torcer

    1. There are more than 2 candidates.
    2. Perhaps you should follow you own advice.

  • Torcer

    And once again you base an entire diatribe on a false accusation.

    But thank you for proving my point.

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth

    Okay fine, we’ll start using “it” as pronouns. In my post, “it” refers to Torcer. It resorts to no alternative, no solutions, no candidate, nothing.
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75040#comment-2833751354

    Sometimes it is truly amazing you would state some thing like that is patently false.

    Previously posted:

    My Fellow Americans,

    Our American Nation is the greatest experiment in freedom the world has ever known. It’s given generations of citizens the blessings of liberty ever since the Founding Fathers risked their lives in what seemed like an improbable bid for independence. While the republic they created was one of imperfect freedoms, for 240 years the arc of progress and liberty has moved ever-upward. Even in times of economic crisis and war, our nation has been a singular source of hope for people throughout the world yearning for liberty, dignity and opportunity.

    I proudly and quietly served our country for most of my adult life, first as an undercover operations officer with the Central Intelligence Agency and more recently as a senior national security and policy advisor in the House of Representatives. My service has given me unique, firsthand knowledge of the threats our nation faces, the burdens borne by hardworking Americans, and the numerous areas of our government that desperately need reform.

    Like millions of Americans, I had hoped this year would bring us better nominees who, despite party differences, could offer compelling visions of a better future. Instead, we have been left with two candidates who are fundamentally unfit for the profound responsibilities they seek.

    Hillary Clinton is a corrupt career politician who has recklessly handled classified information in an attempt to avoid accountability and put American lives at risk including those of my former colleagues. She fails the basic tests of judgment and ethics any candidate for President must meet. Moreover, she only offers stale economic ideas like the same old top-down government control that has brought us eight years of historically low growth.

    Donald Trump appeals to the worst fears of Americans at a time we need unity, not division. Republicans are deeply divided by a man who is perilously close to gaining the most powerful position in the world, and many rightly see him as a real threat to our Republic. Given his obvious personal instability, putting him in command of our military and nuclear arsenal would be deeply irresponsible. His infatuation with strongmen and demagogues like Vladimir Putin is anathema to America values. We cannot and must not elect him.

    Millions of Americans are not being represented by either of these candidates; those of us who care about the strength of the military and intelligence services find little to embrace in either Trump or Clinton.

    Americans who believe in limited, Constitutional government that is smaller, smarter, and more accountable view both Clinton and Trump as symbols of corruption and excess that provide no hope of basic competence in the federal government.

    Those who embrace the dignity and value of every human life from conception until death; who understand the crushing danger of our unsustainable national debt; who believe deference to our Constitution outweighs partisan political priorities are all looking for something better than the two major party candidates are offering. These foundational and time-tested principles transcend party and politics but sadly have no champion in this election. We must not abandon the fight for these values, for doing so will deprive future generations of Americans the bright future we want to give them.

    With the stakes so high for our nation and at this late stage in the process, I can no longer stand on the sidelines. Our country needs leaders who are in it for the right reasons and who actually understand what makes this country the greatest on earth. Leaders who will unite us and guide us to a prosperous, secure future, beyond the dysfunction of a broken political system.

    Just as the American Revolution required men and women devoted to liberty and freedom to stand up and be counted, this moment calls a new generation to the same sacred task. With that in mind, I have decided to pursue the cause of American renewal and the Presidency of the United States of America.

    With Hope For Our Future,

    Evan McMullin
    Evan McMullin is an independent candidate for President.
    https://www.evanmcmullin.com/my_letter_to_america

  • KirklesWorth

    Hey, whatever it takes for you to dodge the issue. I guess those pesky “diatribes” just don’t need refuting, eh? But as soon as you start “selling” Evan McMullin, I’ll take back what I said.

  • KirklesWorth

    Yeah, Evan McMullin is “the answer”. How’s he polling? Aren’t you concerned? Charles Krauthammer isn’t impressed.

    He’s not running for president, he’s running to be what Ralph Nader was to Al Gore was in 2000, although he did it inadvertently which is to siphon off enough conservative…traditional conservative republicans, to cost Trump perhaps a state or two in a close election. It’s a way to give an anti-Trump republican, who cannot possibly stomach voting for Hillary, a place to go rather than writing in another name. That’s what he is trying to do, he’s allowed to do it, but he’s not running for president. https://share.grabien.com/file.php?id=106170&searchorder=date

    https://caching1.grabien.com/media/a/streams/0106/svlkna_Byzrm_I6MqW6W9g/1471345056/106170.mp4?key=svlkna_Byzrm_I6MqW6W9g

  • Torcer

    And once again you push a falsehood.

  • KirklesWorth

    You keep saying that without citation. Please indicate what “falsehood” I pushed. Was it:

    1. You didn’t dodge the issue
    2. You refuted those pesky “diatribes”
    3. You are “selling” Evan McMullin

  • Torcer

    And KirklesWorth is doing it’s level best to drive them away with it’s incessant attacks.

    Note that it Failed to even address the points I made.

  • KirklesWorth

    Note how it completely ignores my challenge while claiming some non-existent “points I made”. Here, let me show you what you failed to address in just the previous comment (note how it was cited again for clarity):

    You keep saying that without citation. Please indicate what “falsehood” I pushed. Was it:

    1. You didn’t dodge the issue
    2. You refuted those pesky “diatribes”
    3. You are “selling” Evan McMullin

  • KirklesWorth

    “Drive them away”? Did I just see you post “drive them away”? You mean to tell me an article titled “Trump: My Temperament Has Gotten Me Here” (On a tip from Torcer) is supposed to draw Trump supporters here and then I chase them back out again? Hilarious!

    Oh yes, those dreaded “points” you make that you don’t cite…why is that? Maybe I should start doing the same…like the one below:

    You keep saying that without citation. Please indicate what “falsehood” I pushed. Was it:

    1. You didn’t dodge the issue
    2. You refuted those pesky “diatribes”
    3. You are “selling” Evan McMullin

  • Feet2Fire

    There are only TWO viable candidates (although one’s viability is questionable–Hillary). The others are egomaniacal window dressing, to distract voters and try to sabotage Trump’s success.

    What advice? Not to worry? Yeah, I do worry when encountering blind, deaf and dumb voters who want to get REVENGE rather than vote for positive change and restoration of America.

    End of discussion. No more resources to waste on voters stuck in some infantile temper-tantrum because their favored candidate was a LOSER. –If the shoe fits… etc.

  • Torcer

    Are you referring to the ‘viable’ that is dropping in the polls?

    Trump whacked by more damaging polls
    The Republican nominee’s backslide shows no sign of easing, and Trump shows no sign of changing.
    The blows just keep coming for Donald Trump. The Republican presidential nominee was hit by two brutal polls on Tuesday that showed him badly lagging in the critical swing states of Virginia and Florida, underscoring the backslide that Trump’s campaign can’t seem to stop.

    Trump’s response? “I don’t wanna change.”

    The beleaguered nominee acknowledged during a media blitz that he should probably adjust his tactics to shore up his diminishing standing in the polls, but he argued that doing so would betray the millions of supporters who have backed his campaign.

    “Well, possibly I do, but, you know, I am who I am. It’s me,” Trump told Wisconsin news station WKBT-TV in a sit-down interview on Tuesday. “I don’t wanna change. Everybody talks about, ‘Oh, well you’re gonna pivot, you’re gonna’ — I don’t wanna pivot. I mean, you have to be you. If you start pivoting, you’re not being honest with people.”

    But the battleground-state polls out Tuesday lay out a stark reality — that Hillary Clinton may be breaking away.
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-poll-august-slide-227051

  • Torcer

    And once again it FAILED to address the question and instead threw out irrelevant loaded questions.

  • Torcer

    Again: And once again you base an entire diatribe on a false accusation.

    But thank you for proving my point.

  • KirklesWorth

    Oh, right…another one of my “pesky diatribes” that means “It doesn’t have to answer”. Got it. Where are these rules again?

    So tell me if my scenario is right – you are attacking Trump in the hopes of achieving your final goal of a Convention of States, secession, or revolution. So if you are successful, you won’t be helping Hillary. If you fail and HIllary becomes president, you will blame Trump supporters. Right?

  • Torcer

    Where did I advocate those items?

  • Feet2Fire

    Your diatribe had not been read.

    As said above:

    End of discussion. No more resources to waste on voters stuck in some
    infantile temper-tantrum because their favored candidate was a LOSER.

  • KirklesWorth

    No, he is referring to the “viable” Evan McMullan. How’s he doing in the polls? (Note for ComradeJ: this was sarcasm).

  • Torcer

    Funny that you should project that….

  • KirklesWorth

    What is your desired outcome of this election Torcer?

  • Torcer

    How is Trump doing in the polls?

  • KirklesWorth

    I asked you first about Evan McMullin…didn’t you see? Aren’t you concerned?

  • Torcer

    And I’ve answered your questions – now it YOUR turn: Do you believe the polls?

    Shouldn’t Trump and his followers try something different?

  • Torcer

    Again: That a candidate who champions liberty wins…

  • KirklesWorth

    Again, so if Hillary wins, she will be championing liberty?

  • KirklesWorth

    Where are Even McMullin’s polls?

  • Torcer

    Apparently they haven’t begun polling for him, so what is your point aside from dodging the question?

    Now that I’ve answered your questions – now it YOUR turn: Do you believe the polls?

    Shouldn’t Trump and his followers try something different?

  • Torcer

    No.

    Now that I’ve answered your questions – now it YOUR turn: Do you believe the polls?

    Shouldn’t Trump and his followers try something different?

  • KirklesWorth
  • Torcer

    My response is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75389#comment-2847826573
    Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..

  • KirklesWorth

    I think the spelling you are looking for is “obfuscate”.

  • Torcer

    My response is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75389#comment-2847826573
    Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..

  • KirklesWorth

    And I eviscerated your “evisceration”. http://moonbattery.com/?p=75389#comment-2848262442

  • Torcer

    My response is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75389#comment-2847826573
    Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..

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