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Aug 11 2016

Trump Promises Us More Money; That’s the Bad News

Kevin Williamson has good news and bad news regarding Trump and entitlements. The bad news is that Trump promises to increase Social Security payments:

In an interview with Fox and Friends on Tuesday, Trump suggested that we should pay Social Security dependents more than we currently do. “The people are not making it on Social Security,” he said. “It’s a very big problem. We’ll take care of it.”

The implication: he would dole out more money. But there isn’t any more money. That’s why his promise is bad news.

Under current policy, the unfunded liabilities of Social Security right now are about $25 trillion. (Conservatively; different assumptions will of course produce different results.) Say “$25 trillion” to most people and you may as well be saying “$25 billion” or “$25 gazillion” or “$25 googol” (that’s $25.00 x 10 to the hundredth power for you English majors out there) — most people have trouble mentally processing such large numbers. So, here’s a handy comparison: If you took all of the money deposited in all of the banks in the United States and then doubled it, that’s how short we are on Social Security alone. That’s one program.

It’s not even the biggest program; Medicare is a still more massive Sword of Damocles hanging over our heads.

A group of economists including 15 Nobel laureates estimated our total long-term unfunded liabilities a few years back at $222 trillion. How big is that number? It’s about three times the total net worth of all U.S. households combined, which includes all of the directly and indirectly held shares they have in U.S. corporations. It is just shy of the entire stock of wealth held by the human race, not just money and financial instruments and real estate, houses, cars, vintage sneaker collections, etc.

Sometimes, progressives confronted with those numbers will retort: “Well, that’s over a 75-year timeline!” or “That’s over an infinite time horizon!” And that is true. But those unfunded liabilities are not the difference between our future obligations and current assets but rather are the difference between our future obligations and our projected future assets. Economic growth will not get us out of this mess, because economic growth already is incorporated into the calculations.

With that in mind, ask yourself this question: Given that the shortfall of our total future government obligations — not the obligations themselves, just how short we are of paying them — almost equals the entire stock of wealth accumulated by the entire human race over the course of its history, what do you imagine the chances are that those obligations will be paid out in the future at their present value?

Don’t ask me to show my work here, but I’m going to go with something in the neighborhood of 0.0000000 percent.

The good news? Williamson believes that Trump is merely telling people lies that will sound pleasant to their ears in order to get elected. Chances are that he has no intention of increasing benefits when it would only hasten the USA going as bankrupt as one of his casinos.

But the odds of Trump taking meaningful action to reform entitlements, so as to prevent national insolvency a decade or two down the road, come in right around 0.0000000% too.

trump money
Then again, maybe he is heedless enough to keep his word.

On a tip from Torcer.



  • KirklesWorth

    “Trump Promises Us More Money; That’s the Bad News” On a tip from Torcer. Who else? The name of the National Review hit piece: “Thank Goodness Trump Is a Compulsive Liar”

    Nothing better than a calling-you-a-liar-before-the-fact, damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t hit piece. Oh the “integrity” of “conservatives” these days.

    Who does the National Review endorse since Ted “no politician is perfect” Cruz is out?

    Didn’t the National Review endorse Mitt Romney last time?

    On individual rights, Mitt Romney ranks the same as Donald Trump.
    Donald Trump is slightly more conservative than Mitt Romney on domestic issues.
    When it comes to economic issues, Mitt Romney is generally more conservative than Donald Trump.
    In terms of defense and international issues, Mitt Romney is generally more conservative than Donald Trump.
    http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/compare/5-70/Mitt-Romney-vs-Donald-Trump

  • jan_poster

    With the government handing out money to everyone else why shouldn’t SS recipients get more? And why don’t we ever hear of welfare or food stamps going broke? Just the program I paid into for over 45 years is in trouble. The bad news is coming for retired working people. Why do you think they had riots drills at some SS offices?

  • TrojanMan

    “Who else?” What? Dave not posting your AlwaysTrump puff pieces from Breitrump? Got you a little jealous eh?

    “So, at best, Romney was “generally more conservative” and didn’t win…hmmm…” Right so what chance in hell does Trump have?

  • KirklesWorth

    Please cite the “puff pieces” I posted from Breitbart.

    Which candidate does this Trump hit piece help?

    Jealous? Perhaps. Concerned – definitely.

    “So, at best, Romney was “generally more conservative” and didn’t win…hmmm…” Right so what chance in hell does Trump have?

    That’s exactly the point. A “more conservative” candidate lost – against Barack Obama no less. And yet the “conservative” pipe dream continues…

  • TrojanMan

    “Please cite the “puff piece” I posted from Breitbart.” Dude you are dense. read it again, perhaps if you do enough times you will understand…if not i will not bother explaining how articles get posted on this site.

    “That’s the point Einstein. A “more conservative” candidate lost – against Barack Obama no less.” So you are admitting that Trump will lose in a landslide. Finally catching on are we? Good for you!

  • KirklesWorth

    So your concessions are:

    Me posting “puff pieces” from Breitbart: unproven.
    The Trump hit piece helped: Hillary.
    A more conservative candidate than Trump: lost.

    “That’s the point Einstein. A “more conservative” candidate lost – against Barack Obama no less.” So you are admitting that Trump will lose in a landslide. Finally catching on are we? Good for you!

    I am making no such admission. If Trump loses, it will be partly because of so-called “conservative” anti-Trump Hillary-enablers. You seem to be under the impression that “more conservative = more likely elected”, which you have not proven (a la Ted Cruz).

  • TrojanMan

    Again:

  • KirklesWorth

    Hey…another TrojanMan non-response graphic that magically ends debate with him as the winner! What a clever move!

  • TrojanMan

    “ends debate” The debate has been had and ended long ago. You are a #AlwaysTrump troll. No amount of evidence to support the fact that Trump is a big government progressive will EVER change your mind. We all got played, some have figured that out, other such as yourself will never.

    So i am done debating, i am just going to have fun now. ByeBye

  • KirklesWorth

    Apologies – you said “Dave not posting your AlwaysTrump puff pieces”, not that I was. You were right.

    So, I’m a “troll” yet as a “conservative” you will allow Hillary to
    keep 11 million illegal aliens, no border enforcement, illegal aliens obtaining rights and citizenships, increased gun control, more gun background checks, “assault weapons” ban, softer law enforcement, expanding Obamacare, no school vouchers, green energy debacles, global warming nonsense, offshore drilling banned, fracking banned, Keystone pipeline banned, more “stimulus” spending, increased EPA regulations, higher minimum wage…should I go on?

    Don’t lecture me on “big government progressive” while allowing Hillary to run roughshod and take away liberties and freedoms we may never get back. Your “conservative ideals” won’t mean squat.

  • TrojanMan
  • KirklesWorth

    Thanks for admitting you aren’t a conservative and don’t care about Hillary keeping 11 million illegal aliens, no border enforcement, illegal aliens obtaining rights and citizenships, increased gun control, more gun background checks, “assault weapons” ban, softer law enforcement, expanding Obamacare, no school vouchers, green energy debacles, global warming nonsense, offshore drilling banned, fracking banned, Keystone pipeline banned, more “stimulus” spending, increased EPA regulations, higher minimum wage, etc..

    So much for your condescension.

  • TrojanMan
  • KirklesWorth

    Who do you endorse?

  • TrojanMan
  • TrojanMan
  • KirklesWorth

    Who do you endorse #2?

  • KirklesWorth

    Who do you endorse #3?

  • TrojanMan
  • KirklesWorth

    Who do you endorse #4? Must be Hillary.

  • grayjohn

    Don’t worry, with half the republicans, half the conservative media, and blogs like this, Hillary is a cinch to win. And oh think of how smug about defeating Trump you can all be then? Does it give you a tingle down your legs? I hope you’ve all enjoyed doing your part to send us into the dark ages. Good show.

  • TrojanMan
  • KirklesWorth

    Yeah…too bad he’s out. So who do you endorse #5?

  • TrojanMan
  • KirklesWorth

    Hmmm…I hate to tell you this, but unless a huge write-in campaign happens, you are out of luck and a help to Hillary.

  • TrojanMan
  • KirklesWorth

    Good luck. We’ll have to catch back up in November.

  • TrojanMan
  • KirklesWorth

    Really? You are going to make me point out how Ted Cruz is a wasted vote? Oh well, so be it. I’ll start off with the same publication that started this whole discussion – the National Review’s “The Weaknesses That Doomed Ted Cruz”

    Cruz’s is the story of a disciplined candidate and a well-run campaign that couldn’t overcome their limitations. Since well before he officially launched his campaign, the Texas senator worked to carve out a niche as the most conservative candidate on offer. He’d been eyeing a presidential bid from the time he was elected to the Senate, and his carefully-crafted anti-establishment brand carried a cost: He’d publicly flogged his Senate colleagues to build up a national fan base, earning the lasting enmity of his Senate colleagues. As the campaign dragged on, Cruz’s team came to believe that if he could emerge as the last man standing against Trump, even those who despised him would be forced to come on board. But his appeal remained limited and left him struggling to expand his support even as the field contracted, while the man who defeated him had a message for the masses, or at least moderates, independent voters, and a handful of Democrats – and the platform to deliver it to them.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/434916/ted-cruz-why-he-lost

  • TrojanMan
  • KirklesWorth

    I have to admit, you’ve got nerve. You ignore what is inconvenient and reply with propaganda. You’d fit right in with the progressives you are helping.

  • Tchhht!!!

    Jeez, the only thing missing from this thread is 762×51 aka Peashooter handing out death threats.

  • TrojanMan
  • KirklesWorth

    That’s because he/she usually comes out at night when they let him/her off his/her leash.

  • TrojanMan
  • KirklesWorth

    At least Ted’s graphic floods are entertaining. Yours are just desperate to prove what you are unable to.

  • TrojanMan
  • KirklesWorth

    You misquoted Rod Serling – it should be “Hillary Clinton”. Oh wait, you want that. Nevermind.

  • TrojanMan

    I would say leave then but trolls do not just leave.

  • TrojanMan
  • 762×51

    That’s because there are now millions who never paid a dime into it receiving the money you saved. All courtesy of Progressives.

  • Karma’s Janitor

    Yea you can return any excess of money you get !

  • kirklesworthGooseStepping

    Yes, better get a Progressive, right wrinkledick? Your true colors showing, how funny, I was right all along.

    How are your goosestepping lessons coming along for the big coronation?

    Hey, if tRump wins, will we get to see those giant missile parades that fascist, narcissist dictators always love? I grew up in America and never got to see any of them.

  • 762×51

    Dense he is, indeed.

    Wrinkledicks master plan is to defeat the enemy by becoming them. It is literally the same strategy that the GOPee has been using to lose for a decade. Put up a Progressive candidate against the Progressives candidate, that’ll show’em.

    At least he finally admits that his boy is the NY Progressive we all know him to be, which is why we will not vote for him, LOL.

  • KirklesWorthDoucheBAG

    So your concession is that tRump is a Progressive, not a Copnservative as Dave Blount, Torcer, I and many others have said from the start.

    You lose douchebag! ROTFLMFAO!!

  • 762×51

    Asphyxia by hanging or plastic bag over the head. They both sound so appealing. Decisions, decisions . . .

  • kirklesworthisAPussy

    Count on it, pussy.

  • 762×51

    They left out the cinder blocks and river.

  • Tchhht!!!

    Trojan huh. Is that what you pull over your head before commenting or what you pull on before giving it to Peashooter in the keester. I hope it’s the latter because you need all the protection you can get.

  • TrojanMan
  • Tchhht!!!

    Says the guy who is employed by progressives.

  • Tchhht!!!

    That stuff doesn’t work, but your eloquence is stunning.

  • TrojanMan

    Obviously you are still here.

  • TED
  • TED
  • TED
  • FrozenPatriot

    Progressives in both parties are leading to our demise, including Trump.

    https://realinvestmentadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Government-Asst-DPI-072816.png

  • KirklesWorth

    Okay, you’ve photobombed me into submission. You win by photo finish. Obviously your graphics prove that Hillary should win.

  • TED
  • KirklesWorth

    Everybody you can’t persuade to help Hillary is a troll, eh?

  • TED

    http://i.imgur.com/62I8H7g.png REALLY, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?!

  • FrozenPatriot

    They’ll mean much more than squat when CW2 breaks out. I hope you’re nowhere near a populations center…

  • FrozenPatriot

    Heh. 🙂

  • Tchhht!!!

    Yet another death threat Peashooter?

  • TED

    http://i.imgur.com/oEZZIkr.jpg OMG, THEY are adapting leftist arguments too

  • TED
  • FrozenPatriot

    The only think you’ve pointed out is that you care about winning and your team holding the essentially infinite and still growing power of the national government. If the national government adhered to the Constitution, this discussion would be meaningless as they would have little to no power over our lives.

  • TED
  • TED

    http://i.imgur.com/z7q9COQ.jpg THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TODAY!

  • TED
  • KirklesWorth

    So you’ll allow Hillary to keep 11 million illegal aliens, no border enforcement, illegal aliens obtaining rights and citizenships, increased gun control, more gun background checks, “assault weapons” ban, softer law enforcement, expanding Obamacare, no school vouchers, green energy debacles, global warming nonsense, offshore drilling banned, fracking banned, Keystone pipeline banned, more “stimulus” spending, increased EPA regulations, higher minimum wage, etc.?

  • TED
  • TED

    http://i.imgur.com/Vgm56BS.jpg NAH! Not a CLINTON!!

  • FrozenPatriot

    https://pics.onsizzle.com/it-is-a-testament-to-the-effectiveness-of-the-government-3260895.png

    Lady liberty is going to get it good and hard no matter which of those two win. If we’re going to save liberty, it won’t be through the ballot box. We’re too far gone now. Might as well get the festivities started while we’re still young…

  • TED
  • KirklesWorth

    Current psycho-troll ™ block list:

    1. 762×51
    2. KirklesWorthisaDick
    3. KirklesworthtakesaStrapon
    4. kirklesworthLovesDick
    5. kirklesworthEatsShit
    6. kirklesworthisHillarysBitch
    7. kirklesWorthMoron
    8. kirklesworthProgtard
    9. KirklesworthProgressiveTroll
    10. kirklesworthBathHouseWhore
    11. kirklesworthLicksASS
    12. kirklesworthSuckstRump12
    13. kirklesworthEnablesHillary
    14. kirklesWorthDickSuckeR
    15. kirklesworthDoomApproaches
    16. kirklesworthSandyVaginA
    17. KirklesworthSpreads4Donald
    18. KirklesworthBlowsDonald
    19. kirklesworthisAPussy
    20. KirklesWorthDoucheBAG

  • TED

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://i.imgur.com/L9zB5rf.jpg Again!

  • TrojanMan

    Everyone on this site who is in Trumps colon is a troll yes.

  • KirklesWorth

    I see. How convenient for you. Hillary must be proud.

  • TrojanMan

    “Hillary must be proud.” Ask Trump he would know

  • FrozenPatriot

    If you think there’s a snowball’s chance in hell that tRump will fix any of those things, conversing with you is a bigger waste of time than I thought.

    Principled leaders willing to make hard decisions will fix those things. Trump is not a principled leader. In fact, he’s nearly identical to Hitlery in all but a few relatively inconsequential ways.

  • TED

    http://i.imgur.com/hhCtIAd.jpg THEY don’t even TRY to hide it anymore!

  • KirklesWorth

    Hmmm…so you are saying the Washington Post is wrong? https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/political-issues/

  • KirklesWorth

    Hahahaha! So you shouldn’t even care then since Hillary is in your hopeful future.

  • TED

    FINALLY, TRUTH, FROM SOME OF THE LEFT! http://i.imgur.com/GjkPIDY.jpg ACTUALLY, I DON’T THINK THEY REALLY SAID IT!

  • FrozenPatriot

    I’m saying all those are rounding errors compared to, “Will you follow the Constitution to the letter?” They both strongly agree on that one…

  • TED
  • TrojanMan

    I will bite once. “HIllary-enablers”. You know who the real hillary enablers are? The people who voted for trump in the primary. His primary nomination gave the presidency to Hitlery. But i would not expect a progressive like you to understand something like that.

  • KirklesWorth

    So, those of us who didn’t vote for Trump but support him now are…what? Sour grapes that your candidate sucked more than Trump. You still haven’t answered about letting Hillary keeping 11 million illegal aliens, no border enforcement, illegal aliens obtaining rights and citizenships, increased gun control, more gun background checks, “assault weapons” ban, softer law enforcement, expanding Obamacare, no school vouchers, green energy debacles, global warming nonsense, offshore drilling banned, fracking banned, Keystone pipeline banned, more “stimulus” spending, increased EPA regulations, higher minimum wage, etc.? Cat got your fingers?

  • KirklesWorth

    Oh, yeah that explains away everything. How about this one? http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/compare/40-70/Hillary-Clinton-vs-Donald-Trump

  • KirklesWorth

    Current psycho-troll ™ block list:

    1. 762×51, 2. KirklesWorthisaDick, 3. KirklesworthtakesaStrapon, 4. kirklesworthLovesDick, 5. kirklesworthEatsShit, 6. kirklesworthisHillarysBitch, 7. kirklesWorthMoron, 8. kirklesworthProgtard, 9. KirklesworthProgressiveTroll, 10. kirklesworthBathHouseWhore, 11. kirklesworthLicksASS, 12. kirklesworthSuckstRump12, 13. kirklesworthEnablesHillary, 14. kirklesWorthDickSuckeR, 15. kirklesworthDoomApproaches, 16. kirklesworthSandyVaginA. 17. KirklesworthSpreads4Donald, 18. KirklesworthBlowsDonald, 19. kirklesworthisAPussy

  • Gene

    He said what he meant. It just wasn’t what you thought he thought it meant. Any way it’s Thursday now.

  • FrozenPatriot

    Every one of those issues is addressed by the Constitution, making your feelings about them meaningless. If our rulers adhered to the Constitution, we wouldn’t have rulers and instead we’d be the land of the free again. Easy.

  • KirklesWorth

    What do you mean “my feelings”? I gave you the link, look it up for yourself! http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/compare/40-70/Hillary-Clinton-vs-Donald-Trump

  • FrozenPatriot

    I’m not going to complain to the messenger.

    You clearly have feelings about these issues or you wouldn’t present them as evidence for your support for Trump. Legally, the federal government must address them (or not) according to very specific laws laid out in the supreme law of the land. Those laws have nothing to do with your feelings. My case is perfectly objective, and my logic is undeniable.

  • FrozenPatriot
  • KirklesWorth

    So, you have your “feelings” that you call “logic” that is “undeniable”. Interesting. My evidence is the evidence of two different cites…what is yours? No offense, but I consider your “undeniable logic” ridiculously more subjective than InsideGov.com and the Washington Post. You even imply that Trump won’t have the influence you anti-Trump Hillary-enablers are whining about – so what’s your agenda? A Hillary presidency is the only thing left.

    Oh, please “complain about the messenger”.

    Do you have problem with my feelings about not wanting Hillary to keep 11 million illegal aliens, no border enforcement, illegal aliens obtaining rights and citizenships, increased gun control, more gun background checks, “assault weapons” ban, softer law enforcement, expanding Obamacare, no school vouchers, green energy debacles, global warming nonsense, offshore drilling banned, fracking banned, Keystone pipeline banned, more “stimulus” spending, increased EPA regulations, higher minimum wage, etc.?

  • KirklesWorth

    And you’ll permit Hillary to take your guns away when it happens.

  • FrozenPatriot

    The only person who will give up your guns is you. You have a choice in every matter; would you rather die on your feet and take a couple imperial stormtroopers with you, or live on your knees?

  • Tchhht!!!

    DISCLAIMER: I am not now, nor have I ever been a supporter of Donald Trump. I have never posted support for Trump on this or any other website. PusHead aka 762×51 aka Peashooter, however, has somehow gotten it into the delusional void between his ears that I am a progressive. Now get this. Here is the kicker. PusHead is in the military (he says) and is, therefore, in the employ of Progressives. He takes orders from, and kowtows to Progressives on a daily basis.
    Regardless of who wins in November PusHead will still be in the employ
    of Progressives. What we have here is a case of PusHead the Progressive’s bitch accusing someone who is not a Progressive of being a Progressive.

  • KirklesWorth

    How disingenuous can you get? Do you not even care that you are enabling Hillary to win that you would at least look it up? Do some research before you shoot your mouth off.

    Topic: Absolute right to gun ownership: Hillary Strongly Disagrees, Trump Strongly Agrees. http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/compare/40-70/Hillary-Clinton-vs-Donald-Trump

    Do you support increased gun-control measures? Hillary yes, Trump no.
    Do you support increased background checks? Hillary yes, Trump no.
    Do you support an assault-weapons ban? Hillary yes, Trump no.
    Do you support expanding concealed-carry permits? Hillary unclear, Trump yes.
    Do you support the CDC studying gun violence? Hillary yes, Trump unclear.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/political-issues/

  • FrozenPatriot

    How gullible can you get? “expanding concealed-carry permits” means that “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” has just been infringed. Carry permission slips means it’s no longer a right, and Trump apparently supports this. You fool.

    All background checks are unconstitutional. Who is going to end them?

    Then CDC is unconstitutional. Who will abolish it?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgwmqbaUYAADWKs.jpg

  • KirklesWorth

    Um, sorry to embarrass you, but please read these again:

    Do you support expanding concealed-carry permits? Hillary unclear, Trump yes.

    Do you support the CDC studying gun violence? Hillary yes, Trump unclear.

    Did you want to retract your criticism?

  • TrojanMan

    “live on your knees?” He lives on his knees now sucking the orange cock.

  • KirklesWorth

    I’d hate to know what you’re doing to Hillary…

  • FrozenPatriot

    Be nice now… He’s simply been misled into believing political saviors are possible. Worse yet, he believes that someone who patently ignores the Constitution is fit to preside over the government it created.

  • KirklesWorth

    Selective indignation. Hillary ignores it all, Trump may ignore parts. We can hold him accountable – we are not Hillary cultists.

  • Tom

    Oh Lord…spare us from these armchair Constitutional lawyers.

  • Tom

    Describing your auto-erotic masturbation fantasies again?

  • Tom

    Do you fap to this? Pathetic….

  • TrojanMan

    Yeah whats it to you?

  • KirklesWorth

    Now, now, Tom…as FrozenPatriot said to TrojanMan (my corrections are in bold:

    Be nice now… He’s simply been misled into believing political saviors are possible. Worse yet, he believes that Hillary who patently ignores the Constitution is fit to preside over the government it created.

  • TrojanMan

    So saith Yoda:

  • FrozenPatriot

    Either we follow it or we don’t. There’s no use pretending if we’re going to ignore it.

  • KirklesWorth

    The TrojanMan motto: “When I’ve got nothing, I post a picture.”

  • TrojanMan
  • FrozenPatriot

    Pray tell, which parts does Trump honor which Hitlery ignores? They are equally guilty.

  • KirklesWorth

    Sounds good in theory, but welcome to real life. Letting Hillary run roughshod over it will be even less “following it”.

  • KirklesWorth
  • Justshowstogoya

    The United States cannot go bankrupt and will never run out of money. That’s because it can print and spend all the money it wants. What happens is the dollar becomes more and more worthless until nobody will use it anymore.

  • KirklesWorth

    Bravo Tchhht!!!. And all of the “conservatives” around here who sit idly by and let him/her badger (and even cheer him/her on) people are pretty cowardly.

  • Tom

    More evidence of your delusions?

  • TrojanMan

    Sure why not… Thanks?

  • Dollar becomes more and more worthless/nobody will use: Already in process of coming to pass.

  • A general part of the strategy of Democrats is to promise AND DELIVER more than can be paid for. When Republicans USED to argue for return to sanity they could be cast as the bad guys trying to take away things one is entitled to. When the Republicans actually make a move to bring down the debt – which we probably wont’ see any more given the changes in the Republican party – they are cast as heartless fiends and they do poorly in the next elections.

    And the long view is that the Democrats don’t worry about when the bills come due and can’t be paid – they’ll just find a way to blame THAT on the Republicans as well.

    “It’s Bush’s fault!”

  • Tchhht!!!

    Yeah, I guess we should be asking PusHead whose military he is a member of. Seems to me that it wasn’t all that long ago that people like PusHead would be banned from this site.

  • Good point – don’t want either, but don’t want Hillary more.

  • From the look on his face it seems he’s thrilled to death her message is resonating and soon others like his son will have even more “gun free zones” in which to murder at will on their rampages.

  • I don’t disagree with anything you say, but the simple fact is we’re likely headed for the dark ages either way – but the question is how dark, nothing more. I am with you – likely darker with Hillary. But the truth is we really don’t know.

  • KirklesWorth

    “Flag as inappropriate” certainly doesn’t work. He/she sure goes around a lot of blocks to get my attention:

    1. 762×51, 2. KirklesWorthisaDick, 3. KirklesworthtakesaStrapon, 4. kirklesworthLovesDick, 5. kirklesworthEatsShit, 6. kirklesworthisHillarysBitch, 7. kirklesWorthMoron, 8. kirklesworthProgtard, 9. KirklesworthProgressiveTroll, 10. kirklesworthBathHouseWhore, 11. kirklesworthLicksASS, 12. kirklesworthSuckstRump12, 13. kirklesworthEnablesHillary, 14. kirklesWorthDickSuckeR, 15. kirklesworthDoomApproaches, 16. kirklesworthSandyVaginA. 17. KirklesworthSpreads4Donald, 18. KirklesworthBlowsDonald, 19. kirklesworthisAPussy, 20. KirklesWorthDoucheBAG, 21. kirklesworthGooseStepping

  • TeutonicNight4893
  • TeutonicNight4893

    I’m not saying you have to like Trump, I’m not even saying you have to hate Cruz, but Please, please do more research on the man.
    Cruz is NOT some Constitutional Paradigm, exempt from flaws and corruption.
    Please take the time to read this before replying.
    http://www.politijim.com/2016/04/fact-check-cruzs-cred-on-constitutional.html

  • KirklesWorth

    It’s not that we want to attack Ted Cruz, it’s just that the anti-Trump Hillary-enablers use it as a crutch to smash us over the head with. They want to “punish” Trump supporters for Ted’s demise instead of his own screwups – and are willing to take down the country to inflate their petty egos. They don’t want Trump AND they simultaneously want to blame Hillary on Trump supporters if she wins – something straight out of bizarro world. Ted’s out…they need to get over it.

  • TrojanMan

    “Constitutional Paradigm” In your opinion who is?

  • TeutonicNight4893

    Out of hundreds of companies, only filing chapter 11 bankruptcy 4 times is actually a stunning ratio.
    Most entrepreneurs fail at a much higher rate.

    Only people desperately ignorant of the modern American economy fell for that bankruptcy meme promoted by the MSM months and months ago. Very telling that you still promote/believe it as somehow damning.

  • TeutonicNight4893

    My local Sheriff for one.
    But it sure as heck ain’t Rafael Teddy-bear Cruz.

    Just because you hate Trump does not make Cruz a ‘Constitutional Patriot’. He’s done some good and very publicized things for the conservative movement but he has also done some very, very damaging and non-publicized things that work against our National sovereignty and adherence to the U.S. Constitution.

    He is just as much of a mixed bag of good and bad as Trump is.

  • KirklesWorth

    Touché! Bravo! I’ve dubbed the TrojanMan motto: “When I’ve got nothing, I post a picture.”

  • Tchhht!!!

    Well apparently Dave likes PusHead’s winning ways. You know…hearts and minds, good will, and credibility. My money is on Venezuela for PusHead’s military service.

  • FrozenPatriot

    Your answer to, “which parts does Trump honor which Hitlery ignores?” is “Wrong.” ?? Wow.

    Immigration – the only constitutional actions of the federal government is to verify health concerns in locations from which people immigrate to the US. Before the (unconstitutional) welfare state, the feds had almost no involvement in immigration. Deporting criminal aliens is a state issue. The states need to start acting like sovereigns.
    Gun Control – unconstitutional in its entirety. I don’t care what either of them have to say unless it’s “I will refuse to enforce any gun control laws or regulations because they’re all unconstitutional.” Otherwise they’re Nope and Noper.
    War on Terror – it is unconstitutional to enact war without a congressional declaration, which we haven’t had since WWII. Yay for illegal wars and an illegal standing army!
    Trade – in limited ways a federal issue, but protectionism has never worked well.
    Abortion – unconstitutional for the federal government to weigh in. Purely a state issue.
    Entitlements – unconstitutional at the federal level. Purely a state issue.
    LGBT Rights – unconstitutional for the federal government to weigh in. Purely a state issue.
    Energy and the Environment – unconstitutional at the federal level. Purely a state issue.
    The Economy – The freer the market, the more prosperous. Why do you want federal meddling?
    Healthcare – unconstitutional at the federal level. Purely a state issue.
    Criminal Justice – When the country was founded, there were three federal felonies, no FBI, no DOJ, no BATFE, no USDA, no EPA, etc. etc. and people got along just fine. Now there are over 4500 federal felonies and most of us commit around three per day. Is this the land of the free?

  • FrozenPatriot

    Plus I’d rather take that plunge with a de-facto socialist at the helm, rather than a progressive republicrat. Furthermore, I’d rather that plunge happens while I’m young, so that fighting back may occur with fewer aches and pains.

  • TeutonicNight4893

    From what I’ve seen, that’s spot on.

    I don’t mind legitimate criticism of Trump, it’s just that is so damn hard to find. Most often these NeverTrumpers take talking points straight from NYtimes, Politico, CNN, or even the DNC. (Wikileaks emails)

    I can’t stand media hacks, but I can’t stand a conservative who uses media-spin to bolster his argument even more.

  • KirklesWorth

    You keep saying “unconstitutional” as though it isn’t happening. Guess what – things might be “unconstitutional”, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t happening or will change based on which candidate gets elected. Those are the issues the Washington Post researched their responses…no need to lecture me. You’re the one who’ll risk more of those “unconstitutional” things happening.

  • KirklesWorth

    Then you might not like it here because the anti-Trump Hillary enablers can get pretty vicious.

  • FrozenPatriot

    So be it; at least we’re finally talking about what matters. I’d rather discuss these issues than what form of cancer is more preferable — the (R) kind or the (D) kind…

  • TrojanMan

    And it sure as heck ain’t Trump. I do not hate anyone. What i am is very disappointed in not only the republican party being hijacked by progressives but being labeled a “hillary-supporter” because i am not going to vote for the democrat with an R by his name.

    Let me rephrase, In your opinion who is at the national level?

    See unlike some “other” people. You seem like someone who might be willing to have a respectful debate, am i wrong? The meme’s were amied at a certain #alwaystrumpsters who is very butt hurt.

    I have always said, vote trump if your conscience and convictions allow. Mine will not.

    Good day

    http://poorrichardsnews.com/i-searched-the-transcripts-of-50-of-trumps-campaign-speeches-he-almost-never-mentions-the-constitution-liberty-or-freedom/

  • KirklesWorth

    Right. More debate fodder…?

  • KirklesWorth

    First you sound pleasant with “someone who might be willing to have a respectful debate” and then you say ” a certain #alwaystrumpsters who is very butt hurt.” Assuming I am this “#alwaystrumpster” (which I didn’t say I was), how am I butt hurt? I’ve floated dozens of issues you haven’t even responded to and you want to have a “respectful debate” and I am the one “very butt hurt”? Funny you should use that term because you’ve got it bass-ackwards.

    Here, I made it easy for you:

    Voting for Hillary = Hillary supporter.
    Liberal / Progressives not voting = Trump enabler.
    Independend / third party not voting = neutral.
    Republicans / Conservatives not voting = Hillary enabler.
    Voting for Trump = Trump supporter.

    Unless you have a conservative messiah in mind that is capable of winning by November…?

  • TrojanMan

    If i was talking about you being the butt hurt alwaystrumpster i would have said so therefore you are not of whom i was speaking.

  • KirklesWorth

    Nice. Plausible deniability. No need to name names. I like it.

  • TrojanMan

    ^^^^^ Butt hurt alwaystrumpster ^^^^^^^

  • KirklesWorth

    So, you just admitted you lied? This is just too pathetic.

  • TrojanMan

    “So, you just admitted you lied?”
    Right ^^^^^^^^^^^ ALWAYS VERY butt hurt alwaystrumpster ^^^^^^^^^

  • KirklesWorth

    What unashamed lack of integrity.

  • TrojanMan

    Oh my mistake. I thought i was replying to TeutonicNight4893 and not you.

  • TrojanMan

    If i was talking about you being the butt hurt alwaystrumpster i would have said so therefore you are not of whom i was speaking.

    There now i replied to the right thread

  • TeutonicNight4893

    The Republican Party has definitely been infiltrated by Progressives, You and I just disagree about who’s who.

    regards National level, I respect Sessions a great deal. But haven’t vetted him as thoroughly as the GOP candidates this year.

    I am willing to have a respectful debate, but I also don’t really see the point. Your last line sums up why nicely; our minds are already made up.

    If you can’t vote for Trump because he does not mention the Constitution enough, I find that to be a shame, but its your right.

    My conscience and convictions do not endorse every action taken or word spoken by Trump, but they more than clear me to vote for him.

  • Torcer

    Some explain how this man is supposedly a Conservative?

    FACEPALM: Trump is now blatantly advocating AMERICA-KILLING Democratic policies!
    This morning on CNBC Trump made the argument that we should be borrowing more money now because it’s cheaper, instead of trying to reduce our tremendous 19 trillion dollar debt:
    Notice how John Harwood says Democrats agree with Trump!
    Contrast this to what Trump said to Bret Baier in the Primary:
    https://youtu.be/uRtZzT2Q4NM
    Oh wait, that was when he was pretending to be a conservative.
    WORST. REPUBLICAN NOMINEE. EVER.
    http://therightscoop.com/facepalm-trump-is-now-blatantly-advocating-america-killing-democratic-policies/

  • TrojanMan

    GFY, i thought i was talking to someone else.

  • Torcer

    The problem is that you can’t outbid the national socialist left – because they see debt as feature instead of a bug.

    What better way to redistribute the wealth than by having everything come crashing down and bond holders getting reamed.

  • TrojanMan

    Please do not fall into the line of thinking that just because i posted something about Trump not mentioning the constitution that is the ONLY reason i am not going to vote for him. It is not one thing it is a pattern.

    “but I also don’t really see the point.” Agreed.

    “but they more than clear me to vote for him” Then by all means do so. As long as you do not denigrate others for not thinking the same, we can all get along.

    Good day

  • KirklesWorth

    Let’s see what therightscoop.com’s stories have been most recently:

    FACEPALM: Trump is now blatantly advocating AMERICA-KILLING Democratic policies!
    Hey Trump, this is what happens you use overreaching rhetoric
    UH OH: Some top DOJ officials WANTED to investigate Clinton Foundation, but were OVERRULED
    Hugh Hewitt tries to SAVE TRUMP from his ISIS exaggeration – Trump REFUSES the assist!!
    ‘Trump will be OBLITERATED by Clinton…we’re looking at a Mondale-level blowout!’
    REPORT: RNC Chair warns Trump!
    CNN panel BLOWS UP into a shouting match over Donald’s 2nd Amendment comment!!
    WATCH: Newsmax host has MIC CUT OFF, taken OFF-AIR after calling out his network!
    More than ONE HUNDRED Dem party officials and groups were HACKED by RUSSIANS!!
    Ted Cruz prediction coming true – Hillary making moves in DEEP RED state…
    FBI tells DOJ to investigate Clinton Foundation, but the DOJ DECLINES!
    Sean Hannity says IGNORE the polls – Trump is winning TWITTER and FACEBOOK
    RNC should call EMERGENCY meeting to REPLACE TRUMP on the ballot! – Amanda Carpenter
    UPDATE: COPS GOT THE CLIMBER! HERE’S VIDEO!!
    Okay it’s definitely time for the GOP TO PANIC!
    CNN: It’s hard to tell where ANY lines are drawn between State Dept and Clinton Foundation
    WATCH: Trump’s best path to victory in November, but it ain’t gonna be easy!
    David French: I’m embarrassed by Republicans who stick by Trump

  • KirklesWorth

    That’s too reasonable – apparently you are supposed to be all-or-nothing.

  • KirklesWorth

    Oh, “GFY” is the unashamed lack of integrity I should have been referencing. I apologize for the first claim.

  • TrojanMan

    The lack of integrity would be not telling someone to GFY who deserved it.

  • KirklesWorth

    Right…”deserved it”. For what? Oh wait…don’t tell me…my “alwaystrumpster butt hurt” comments that you never respond to. Got it. Maybe posting a picture will help.

  • TrojanMan

    ” For what?” Calling patriots hillary-enablers and just being an all around douchebag. so GFY 😉

  • One of the problems, though, is that Trump has taken somewhat conflicting or ambiguous positions on some of those issues. We do know what Hillary will likely do – we don’t know for sure what Trump will do.

  • KirklesWorth

    True…the question is, could Trump become worse? According to current indicators, he’s about 50% “bad” to Hillary’s 100% “bad”, conservatively speaking. Could Trump become better? Inquiring minds want to know…

  • KirklesWorth

    Okay, so Hillary-enabler is an insult, but alwaystrumpster isn’t? I asked you if you won’t support Trump when Hillary would keep 11 million illegal aliens, no border enforcement, illegal aliens obtaining rights and citizenships, increased gun control, more gun background checks, “assault weapons” ban, softer law enforcement, expanding Obamacare, no school vouchers, green energy debacles, global warming nonsense, offshore drilling banned, fracking banned, Keystone pipeline banned, more “stimulus” spending, increased EPA regulations, higher minimum wage, etc. and you responded with a picture. Your willingness to risk this happening doesn’t qualify you as a “patriot” or a “conservative” to me.

  • Torcer

    Something is going on with Donald Trump
    But these two possibilities — a tendency toward self-sabotage and an overweening self-confidence — are actually not in conflict at all. The missing piece is the element of blame. Trump wants to lose — but he wants the loss to be someone else’s fault. And he doesn’t care if the object of scorn is the media, the Republican Party establishment, or the country’s political establishment as a whole. All that matters is that his followers believe they, and he, have been robbed. Even if the resulting righteous indignation provokes political violence.

    Two months ago my colleague Noah Millman pointed to precisely this kind of psychological dynamic in trying to figure out why Trump, shortly following his resounding triumph in the Republican primaries, chose to spend a week lashing out at Judge Gonzalo Curiel in racially charged terms when it had nothing whatsoever to do with his campaign for president and appeared to do that campaign nothing but harm. Millman’s suggestion? The Trump University lawsuit wasn’t going well, so Trump decided to throw anything and everything at the judge in the hopes that one of the accusations — the judge is a racist! — might stick and create an excuse to explain what would otherwise be a humiliating defeat.

    Trump will do absolutely anything to avoid taking the blame for own failures, even (and perhaps especially) when his own actions rightly deserve the blame. And he couldn’t care less about the civically ruinous consequences.
    http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2016/08/11/something-is-going-on-with-donald-trump/

  • TrojanMan

    People who start wars cannot hold a moral high ground. You shot first… therefore GFY.

    I tried to have a respectful debate with you but you decided to attack…. so therefore GFY.

    You want to be an asshat i will treat you as such….. therefore GFY

    So in closing….. GFY

  • KirklesWorth

    While you cited HotAir.com, the link is actually to “The Week”. http://theweek.com/articles/642009/something-going-donald-trump I wonder what stories The Week has?

    Something is going on with Trump
    Hillary Clinton is the Dick Cheney of the left
    Why Trump’s war against eggheads is backfiring
    How Evan McMullin can be the Trump-Clinton alternative America craves
    Donald Trump vs. political correctness
    I lived in Israel when the prime minister was assassinated. Donald Trump’s ‘joke’ terrifies me.
    How Ronald Reagan zapped a recession
    The Dick Cheney of the left
    The Donald Trump of the 1840s
    Consultants for McMullin
    Donald Trump is losing his war on political correctness
    How Trump and Hannity could have respectfully disagreed with the Khans
    Hillary Clinton is just ‘normal’ bad. Donald Trump is civilization-imperiling bad.
    Donald Trump’s big economic speech was a pivot to nowhere
    Why won’t #NeverTrump just die already?
    The curse of a Clinton landslide
    Why the media treats Donald Trump differently
    Donald Trump wants to slash your child care bill. But he’s doing it all wrong.
    Why Marco Rubio would have crushed Hillary Clinton
    How liberals helped enable the rise of Trump
    Why the GOP will never be rid of Trump
    Is Donald Trump trying to throw this election?
    Listen carefully to how Donald Trump says he’ll fix a ‘rigged’ America
    How Donald Trump’s strongman act won over evangelicals
    Donald Trump has Americanized Vladimir Putin’s war on truth
    American socialists confront their Hillary Clinton problem
    How Hillary Clinton can erode Donald Trump’s base
    The anti-establishment case for Hillary Clinton
    Donald Trump is having a spectacular run of face-plants. Here are the ones that actually matter.
    Here’s how a Donald Trump presidency would double the national debt
    How Hillary can win Republicans
    Are Trump voters ready to die for the Donald? This Trump advisor thinks so.
    Why Obama thinks he can peel Republicans off Trump
    A brief history of Donald Trump’s many business failures

    It’s almost like all the Hillary stories are positive and the Trump ones are negative…?

  • KirklesWorth

    Looks like we’ve got 762×51 mark 2. He told me to “Go f__k yourself” over 30 times. You guys close? You both sure went hostile when I schooled you.

    So, now somehow I start wars? So your “Respectful debate” is non-responsive picture posting? Who is the “asshat” that has nothing except for his anti-Trump Hillary-enabling hatred? All you had to do is tell me who would be a better candidate and most of this could have been avoided…but you’ve got nothing.

    So in closing, closer, close yourself.

  • TrojanMan

    “Looks like we’ve got 762×51 mark 2.” Thanks for the compliment!

    “You both sure went hostile when I schooled you.” LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

    “All you had to do is tell me who would be a better candidate” Already did, several times. You have a VERY short memory eh?

    “most of this could have been avoided” No like all trolls you live to be a douchebag.

  • TeutonicNight4893

    Duly noted.
    “As long as you do not denigrate others for not thinking the same, we can all get along.” And as long as you do the same, I agree.
    I must say this is the most amicable discussion I’ve ever had with a person who considered themselves NeverTrump. Thank you sir.
    Good day to you too.

  • TrojanMan

    I do not consider myself a NeverTrumper but i suppose that would depend on how you would define the term. I am sure we can both agree that Hillary would be an unmitigated disaster. Since Trump has never held office we have no voting record we can look back on for how he would govern. I myself cannot put stock in his words but i must look at his past. When research his past i find a pattern of him not only supporting liberals and progressives with his words but more importantly with his money. Reid, Schumer, Clinton et al. Yes he has donated to reuplicans but most of those have been RINOs. He has supported liberal causes, supported abortion, and on and on.

    If you believe he has changed and is sincere about what he is saying, great, vote for him. I personally do not believe him. I think he might very well be a democrat plant. Therefore i cannot in good conscience vote for him.

    Again if you feel you have no other alternative to vote for Trump to stop Clinton i will not impugn or otherwise denigrate you.

    I tried explaining this all to Wrinkles and all i got back was attacks and i being a “hillary-enabler”. You are seeing the aftermath of that.

    I also agree that neither one of us can change the others mind. But that does not mean we cannot be civil towards each other.

    P.S. Wrinkle please do not reply grown ups are having a conversation.

  • KirklesWorth

    “Wrinkles”? Really? You’ve challenged me every step of the way and ducked my points, so spare me “all I got back was attack”. Even when you have the conversation above, you misrepresent what happens in an attempt to spin it against me.

    I called you “Einstein” first, you called me “#AlwaysTrump troll” after. The statement I made in-between was: “If Trump loses, it will be partly because of so-called “conservative” anti-Trump Hillary-enablers.” I didn’t call you that personally – yet.

    I started by challenging Torcer about another anti-Trump article and you entered the conversation:

    TrojanMan: “Who else?” What? Dave not posting your AlwaysTrump puff pieces from Breitrump? Got you a little jealous eh? “So, at best, Romney was “generally more conservative” and didn’t win…hmmm…” Right so what chance in hell does Trump have?

    “BANG HEAD HERE” graphic.

    I misinterpreted a “puff piece” by Breitbart remark in my response:

    KirklesWorth: Please cite the “puff pieces” I posted from Breitbart. Which candidate does this Trump hit piece help? Jealous? Perhaps. Concerned – definitely.

    “So, at best, Romney was “generally more conservative” and didn’t win…hmmm…” Right so what chance in hell does Trump have?

    That’s exactly the point Einstein. A “more conservative” candidate lost – against Barack Obama no less. And yet the “conservative” pipe dream continues…

    You corrected me of my improper “puff piece” comment by Breitbart remark but I didn’t notice:

    “Please cite the “puff piece” I posted from Breitbart.” Dude you are dense. read it again, perhaps if you do enough times you will understand…if not i will not bother explaining how articles get posted on this site.

    “That’s the point Einstein. A “more conservative” candidate lost – against Barack Obama no less.” So you are admitting that Trump will lose in a landslide. Finally catching on are we? Good for you!

    KirklesWorth: So your concessions are: Me posting “puff pieces” from Breitbart: unproven. The Trump hit piece helped: Hillary. A more conservative candidate than Trump: lost.

    So you are admitting that Trump will lose in a landslide. Finally catching on are we? Good for you!I am making no such admission. If Trump loses, it will be partly because of so-called “conservative” anti-Trump Hillary-enablers. You seem to be under the impression that “more conservative = more likely elected”, which you have not proven (a la Ted Cruz).

    TrojanManL “BANG HEAD HERE” graphic.

    KirlesWorth: Hey…another TrojanMan non-response graphic that magically ends debate with him as the winner! What a clever move!

    TrojanMan: “ends debate” The debate has been had and ended long ago. You are a #AlwaysTrump troll. No amount of evidence to support the fact that Trump is a big government progressive will EVER change your mind. We all got played, some have figured that out, other such as yourself will never. So i am done debating, i am just going to have fun now. ByeBye

    Apologies – you said “Dave not posting your AlwaysTrump puff pieces”, not that I was. You were right.

    So, I’m a “troll” yet as a “conservative” you will allow Hillary to
    keep 11 million illegal aliens, no border enforcement, illegal aliens obtaining rights and citizenships, increased gun control, more gun background checks, “assault weapons” ban, softer law enforcement, expanding Obamacare, no school vouchers, green energy debacles, global warming nonsense, offshore drilling banned, fracking banned, Keystone pipeline banned, more “stimulus” spending, increased EPA regulations, higher minimum wage…should I go on?

    Don’t lecture me on “big government progressive” while allowing Hillary to run roughshod and take away liberties and freedoms we may never get back. Your “conservative ideals” won’t mean squat.

  • TrojanMan

    Don’t be such a disingenuous douchebag. I tried having civil conversations with you previously in other posts. You went full retard, never go full retard. Selectivly edit what you like the response will be the same……GFY Good For You!

  • KirklesWorth

    I’m posting the conversation…how can it be “disingenuous”? I am still editing the blockquotes, and it will soon be fixed. Then you can point out who is being a “disingenuous douchebag”.

  • TrojanMan
  • KirklesWorth

    It’s TrojanMan’s “When I’ve got nothing, I post a picture.” I know it is embarrassing for you when I school you on practically everything you say, but it’s only because I don’t want people to fall for your disingenuous lies.

  • TrojanMan

    What did 7.62 do for you to block him?

  • KirklesWorth

    Okay, my proof is done. As you can plainly see, you called me an “#AlwaysTrump troll” before I could say anything about you being an anti-Trump Hillary-enabler. So as someone wisely said, “You went full retard, never go full retard.”

    Plus, you lied about “So i am done debating, i am just going to have fun now. ByeBye”. So if you can’t stand the heat, stop “debating” and go have fun now. ByeBye!

  • TrojanMan

    I will reiterate…. What did 7.62 do for you to block him?

  • KirklesWorth

    Sorry, I edited my reply but you got your question in before it posted. It said:

    Plus, you lied about “So i am done debating, i am just going to have fun now. ByeBye”. So if you can’t stand the heat, stop “debating” and go have fun now. ByeBye!

  • TrojanMan

    I will reiterate sloooooower……. What……did……..7.62……..do……..4……..U…….2……..block……..him?

  • KirklesWorth

    Let me get this straight…I’m supposed to block you, so I don’t see what you are posting? That makes absolutely no sense. If you don’t want me to reply, stop typing.

  • TrojanMan

    Cant answer huh? Pussy…was that it?

  • Torcer

    As usual, you avoid the substance of the story.

    Do you deny what Donald said in both instances?

  • KirklesWorth

    The way that blocking works is that you are supposed to the one blocking the person you don’t want to see – not asking the person you can’t debate to block you so that they can’t see what ridiculousness you are saying. I will not let you talk smack about me without the ability to defend myself.

  • TrojanMan

    Then why block 7.62 when all YOU have to do is stop typing?

  • Torcer

    You seem to have a problem with people expressing their opinion when it’s contrary to yours.

    Perhaps you should think about why the man is seemingly sabotaging his own campaign.

  • TrojanMan

    Then why block 7.62. Does he not talk smack about you? Hypocrite

  • KirklesWorth

    Okay, see that little down-arrow on the right? Click it and select “Block User”. I thought you knew this, but maybe I was mistaken.

  • TrojanMan

    Dodging LOL!!!! Why did you block him? I would ask him but i want to get your side as well.

  • KirklesWorth

    Because he is psycho-troll who threatened to kill two of us. Is that what you want to do for me to block you?

  • TrojanMan

    See why was that so hard? Now i will ask him to verify. Easy all you had to do is answer a simple question.

  • KirklesWorth

    Yep…like who is your candidate?

  • TrojanMan

    Cruz as i have said manymanymanymanymanymanymanymany times but you have a hearing problem. He may not be on the ballot but vote for him i will nonetheless

  • KirklesWorth

    Oh, you were serious…my apologies. Ted Cruz has made so many mistakes and burned so many bridges, I just assumed you knew that.

    Anyway, here’s the link in case you can’t get a hold of psycho-troll. http://moonbattery.com/?p=74932#comment-2825974802

    I condensed what he said in a single post just like I did above when I proved you wrong.

  • TrojanMan

    Forgive me if i do my own research on the issue. I know how you like to selectively edit things first hand.

  • KirklesWorth

    Feel free, I am pretty thorough. Which is why I deny that I “selectively edit things” – where’s your proof?

  • KirklesWorth

    I didn’t deny anything…I just posted a list of articles.

  • KirklesWorth

    That’s rich. Do you have a problem with a list of articles from your website du jour? Isn’t it helping your case? As someone wisely said, “You seem to have a problem with people expressing their opinion when it’s contrary to yours.”

    Perhaps I should consider Darrell Castle’s polling…

  • KirklesWorth

    No more games. Comment on me or on my comments, and I’ll be commenting back. Savvy? If you don’t like my responses, you can block them. Otherwise, I want to keep an eye on anything you may say about me.

  • TrojanMan

    As i told you, if i am going to say something about you in a negative way i will say it right to you. Dont like my responses you can block them as well.

    No more games….. sure…. i bet

  • That is the question I’ve been asking. My gut feeling is no, Hillary will be worse. But those who feel otherwise are correct when they say I really don’t know, because I do not.

  • KirklesWorth

    Then please explain this little exchange:

    TrojanMan -> TeutonicNight4893: I tried explaining this all to Wrinkles and all i got back was attacks and i being a “hillary-enabler”. You are seeing the aftermath of that.

    Those would be one of the games I am saying “no more” to.

  • TrojanMan

    Dude, i tried many articles ago to explain things to you in a polite manner but you got nasty so i followed suit. You will continue to play “games”. This has run its course. You may have the last word.

  • KirklesWorth

    Thanks, but you claimed “if i am going to say something about you in a negative way i will say it right to you” contrary to what you had done – and called me “Wrinkles” like psycho-troll. So pardon me if I question your honesty.

  • TrojanMan

    Honestly i thought your name was WrinklesWorth. I see the K now.

  • KirklesWorth

    Okay…I can’t say I haven’t made my share of mistakes.

  • TED

    OMG, you idiots would make an excuse for ANYTHING that pretend conservative said!!!

  • TED

  • 762×51

    Really? Who am I employed by? You Progressive fucktard Trumpanzees think you know everything. Come on big mouth, tell us all who my employer is, you dirty lying coward.

    Even if it were true, at least I work.

  • kirklesworththelittleBitch

    20 down, hundreds of thousands to go, you useless little bitch.

  • 762×51

    Oh, I hope he is. All Progressives need to pay for what they have done.

  • kirklesworththeDeadFascist

    Dream on fucktard. Being a whimpering fascist coward, you will be among the first to die so you will never know how it turns out. Anyone who has ever met you knows what a dirty little bastard you are so you won’t last long.

  • 762×51

    Wrinkledick with a gun?, LOL. Maybe a pink derringer. He could take shooting lessons from Gersh Kuntzman.

    All a sniveling coward like him can do is stir up trouble while hiding behind his keyboard. When challenged to single combat, which you know he will face the CW2, the whiny little progtard had to retreat to a “safe space” and blocked me. A coward like that doesn’t last ten seconds in a fire fight.

  • kitklesworthHillaryEnaBler

    Wrinkledick the Hillary enabler, still trying to force a candidate on everyone that they have already rejected. You have already lost asshole, America has lost because of assholes like you. If the Democrat tRump could beat Hillary, he would have run against her in the Democrat primaries.

    You are a fucking asshole.

  • Torcer

    Why can’t you speak on the topic at hand?

  • Torcer

    Answer the question please.

    Do you deny what Donald said in both instances?

  • kirklesworththeMORON

    Idiot, you completely FAILED to understand that a “concealed carry PERMIT” means you need PERMISSION. A RIGHT requires NO PERMISSION, you simpering fucktard moron.

    Your blind adherence to your Progressive agenda and your cult leader demonstrates you are a lemming.

  • 762×51

    Says the Progressive douche bag that lives in the 8th least free state in what used to be America.

    Connecticunt sucks ass, just like you, Brony Bitch.

  • kirklesworthSurrenders

    AHHH, I see, so your “master plan” is to surrender, thereby gaining victory. See you DO make an excellent drone.

  • 762×51

    He already sucks it daily so nothing would change for old wrinkledick. He is a coward, I have proven it here.

  • Which only shows their complete lack of understanding of both history and economics.

    Though it’s true that the rich take the biggest hit in terms of loss of wealth, they still are quite wealthy and comfortable during difficult economic times.

    The lower classes, the poor in particular, suffer the most due to the moonbat policies of spending with no end in sight once the logical consequences are inevitable.

    Just look at Venezuela. It’s the lower and middle classes who cannot afford food, if they could even find it, and who cannot afford to travel to neighboring countries to obtain it, even if they had the means to do so (their own vehicles, for instance), which they do not.

  • kirklesworthtrumpCultist

    No, you are a tRump cultist. Cults of personalty are a defining characteristic of Progressive ideology.

    You and your Republitard Establishment buddies going to “hold tRump accountable” the same way you all have been “holding Obama accountable”?

    “Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.”

  • 762×51

    The imbecile just doesn’t get it. Civil War is still war, regardless of whether the oppressor is an R or a D.

    I don’t want either “flavor”. He thinks his brand of fascism is “better” than Hillary’s brand of fascism. The sooner we kill all these mother fuckers the better off we will be.

  • 762×51

    No, your wife was describing what she wanted to do to you while we were in bed the other night.

    She does enjoy having a man again.

    Brony Bitch.

  • 762×51

    You should really take lessons if you are going to troll. Your Progressive fantasy world is dull and boring, just like your personalty, which is why you suck so bad at this.

  • Tom

    Plumbing new depths in the Abyss of Your Lame-Ass Stupidity??

  • Torcer

    Yes, indeed.
    At some point Venezuela is going to explode, but the left will trot out their ‘third world’ excuse.

  • KirklesWorth

    Current psycho-troll ™ block list:

    1. 762×51, 2. KirklesWorthisaDick, 3. KirklesworthtakesaStrapon, 4. kirklesworthLovesDick, 5. kirklesworthEatsShit, 6. kirklesworthisHillarysBitch, 7. kirklesWorthMoron, 8. kirklesworthProgtard, 9. KirklesworthProgressiveTroll, 10. kirklesworthBathHouseWhore, 11. kirklesworthLicksASS, 12. kirklesworthSuckstRump12, 13. kirklesworthEnablesHillary, 14. kirklesWorthDickSuckeR, 15. kirklesworthDoomApproaches, 16. kirklesworthSandyVaginA. 17. KirklesworthSpreads4Donald, 18. KirklesworthBlowsDonald, 19. kirklesworthisAPussy, 20. KirklesWorthDoucheBAG, 21. kirklesworthGooseStepping, 22. kirklesworththelittleBitch

  • Tchhht!!!

    Yeah, I really suck at this. That’s why you fly into a rage and start spewing filth every time I point out your numerous shortcomings.

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