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Aug 16 2016

What They Booed When They Booed Cruz at the Convention

There have been calls to form a new conservative party. In light of its hostile takeover by Donald Trump, many consider the Republican Party to be not merely sick but dead. Gene O’Neill marks the time of passing for this once great party at the point where Ted Cruz was booed at the Republican National Convention:

If Republicans now boo freedom, conscience, and the Constitution, conservatives are no longer Republicans. There aren’t as many of us as we used to think. But there still should be enough to start a principled party that will give us a base to expand from, if the populist progressive contagion persists after November.

On tips from Torcer and Jester.



  • MicahStone

    With Trump now fully into the GOP establishment, we must move on.

  • KirklesWorth

    Another hat tip to Torcer and Moonbattery’s anti-Trump moonbattery of the day! Nice pro-Cruz anti-Trump rhetoric – Hillary will be grateful! Everybody knows who – not what – the people were booing and why. It’s just Lyin’ Ted living up to his moniker – and people who aren’t so stupid not to know it for what it was.. And here I thought only the progressive liberal socialists stooped to this kind of propaganda. Dave Blount’s editorial is just ridiculous.

  • Grumpy Cat

    Keep on singing that song and you’ll wake up in the box car on the way to a FEMA camp. Moron.

    https://atlanticcenturion.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/cuckbush.png

  • Grumpy Cat
  • Grumpy Cat

    I have a feeling he’s doing it for the huge leap in comments per post. That equals increased ad revenue. Why do you think Soros invests millions in destroying Western capitalism, to lose all his money? What will Dave gain by having Hillary in the White House? More comments = more $$$$

  • Torcer

    Cruz control
    It has dawned on some in the media that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), far from incinerating his own political career by refusing to endorse Donald Trump, may be one of the few survivors of the 2016 GOP presidential field. Well, we have been making that case — since May. His convention speech, we have argued, kept Cruz free from months of the political hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty that have plagued so many Trump apologists.

    We thought he played the aftermath of the primaries — staying low and letting others contort themselves — smartly. He’s continuing on that path:

    Cruz, in rare fashion, has let the fire rage without adding his own gasoline. “He’s doing a remarkable job staying quiet and letting people come to that conclusion on their own,” said Amanda Carpenter, a longtime adviser to Cruz.

    While those close to Cruz were confident the decision not to endorse would be the right one in the end, the quickness with which it’s panning out has been a bit of a surprise. “Trump blew his own convention. While predictable, it still boggles the mind it happened,” Carpenter said. “Trump is like a tornado. You know it’s going to be devastating when it rips through your house but the aftermath is still shocking.”

    Moreover, each time a group of principled, apolitical figures comes forward to bash Trump, Cruz deserves another “I told you so.” He warned, you recall, that Trump was a pathological liar driven by emotional neediness and devoid of the qualities we need in a president. (“This man is a pathological liar. He doesn’t know the difference between truth and lies. He lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth. And in a pattern that I think is straight out of a psychology textbook, his response is to accuse everybody else of lying. He accuses everybody on that debate stage of lying. And it’s simply a mindless yell. Whatever he does, he accuses everyone else of doing. The man cannot tell the truth, but he combines it with being a narcissist. A narcissist at a level I don’t think this country has ever seen.”)

    Most fundamentally, Mr. Trump lacks the character, values, and experience to be President. He weakens U.S. moral authority as the leader of the free world . . . . He is unable or unwilling to separate truth from falsehood. He does not encourage conflicting views. He lacks self-control and acts impetuously. He cannot tolerate personal criticism. He has alarmed allies with his erratic behavior.

    The latter is the view of 50 respected foreign policy experts. Their critique is as much a repudiation of Trump as it is confirmation of the assessment Cruz made.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/08/09/cruz-control/

  • Torcer

    Then perhaps you should be blaming your Comrade..

  • KirklesWorth

    And there he is! Let’s hear who Torcer is endorsing and “selling” today…I can hardly contain myself!

  • TrojanMan

    Did you even read what he posted before you commented?

  • KirklesWorth

    Yep. And…?

  • KirklesWorth

    But we just can’t let our favorite “conservative” post liberal stories without checking in with the Pew ideology scale! Let’s see…

    (Starting from the middle increasingly liberal)
    CBS News
    Google News
    Bloomberg
    ABC News
    USA Today
    NBC News
    CNN
    MSNBC

    And now all together in one group:

    BuzzFeed
    PBS
    BBC
    Huffington Post
    Washington Post
    The Economist
    Politico

  • KirklesWorth

    Nah, we give all the credit to you of course. Where would Dave Blount be without your daily dose of anti-Trump goodness!

  • Torcer

    You will note that instead of addressing the substance of the article I posted she went of the ever droll ad hominem attack on sources.

  • Torcer

    Hahahahahahahaha!
    Sorry to laugh at your expense, but it’s getting quite amusing that you seem to have a problem with free-speech like your hero Donald.

    How many articles has Dave posted that YOU recommended?
    That’s assuming you’ve bloody well posted something useful for once.

  • Artfuldgr

    Reminds me of Konstantin Jireček:

    “We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are
    doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so
    long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.”

    and

    I find it interesting in a verbal sort of way, the constant use of the term “hostile takeover”. I wonder if those that use it are aware of what the definition implies?

    A hostile takeover is the acquisition of one
    company by another that is accomplished by going directly to the company’s shareholders or
    fighting to replace management to get the acquisition approved.

  • Torcer

    A Black Conservative has a Very Important Question for Donald Trump
    Early Tuesday morning, NBC News political editor, Mark Murray tweeted how much the campaigns of Democrat nominee Hillary Clinton, Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson, Green Party nominee Jill Stein, and Republican nominee Donald Trump have spent on advertising over the last two months.

    For two-straight months, Hillary Clinton has owned the general-election ad airwaves https://t.co/zuJspH4a4L August 16, 2016

    Yes, you read that correctly. In the last two months, Trump has spent ZERO dollars on advertising which is quite curious considering the huge pushes Trump has made for donations.

    Sean Trende, senior elections analyst at Real Clear Politics, brought up that very topic of fundraising and it was retweeted by conservative talk radio host Steve Deace.

    Sean T at RCP@SeanTrende
    But he raised $80M in July. So where’s the money going?

    Trump is tanking in the polls after a series of self-inflicted wounds. Will he put his money, that he raised off the backs and wallets of supporters, where his mouth is and use that money to actually fight Hillary Clinton? If not, what is his plan for it?
    http://politistick.com/a-black-conservative-has-a-very-important-question-for-donald-trump/

  • NotKennedy

    A New Conservative Party? There hasn’t been a conservative party, yet.

  • KirklesWorth

    Where did I say I had a “problem” with anything? Quite to the contrary – it helps me prove my points. Please, keep them coming. It actually seems like you are the one that has the hostility…why are you trying to project it on me?

    And by the way, my dad posts more than your dad…ridiculous.

    And by the way, your writing has a charming British flavour.

    And very reminiscent of certain blokes.. http://moonbattery.com/?p=75109#comment-2833384339

    Some perhaps, but those who are true Trump supporters need to distinguish themselves from the SJW’s with better behaviour. http://moonbattery.com/?p=74242#comment-2781470717

    Why are you having so much trouble arguing arguing in favour of Donald? http://moonbattery.com/?p=74242#comment-2805132714

    When did they start bothering you? And they bother me.. since the nation is going down the loo with them. http://moonbattery.com/?p=74992#comment-2833233389

    That’s assuming you’ve bloody well posted something useful for once. http://moonbattery.com/?p=75254#comment-2841180836

  • NotKennedy

    Jeb is the only creep in America that might have justified Hillary. The RNC could not have imposed a worse loser, even if they had tried to foist McCain, or Dole, back in the story.

    The enemy of Republicans, and conservatives, is not just the socialist democrats. Our enemy is the RNC and the people who made Reince Priebus and Michael Steele possible.

  • Eddie_Valiant

    More comments = more $$$$

    And what’s wrong with that?

  • Eddie_Valiant

    That’s why it’ll be called The New Conservative Party.

  • NotKennedy

    Hehe, well, OK, I see what you did there!

  • Reganite forever

    God bless Ted Cruz, he stood tall while the left and the republicans trashed him, IT IS SAD THAT WE COULD NOT HAVE HIM TO FILET BILLARY AND THE LEFT IN THIS ELECTION… CAN YOU HERE ME NOW?

  • Bornaconservative

    Boy, you don’t have what it takes to back up your “from the basement” words, “lyin Cruz”…those words proves you are a moron…Have a nice day, dpsht.

  • Bornaconservative

    And BTW, I hear Trump is lookig for someone to follow behind him and scoop up the poop…

  • KirklesWorth

    Who doesn’t “have what it takes to back up your “from the basement” words? Looks like you don’t know squat about Ted Cruz.

    True 6%, Mostly True 16%, Half True 13%, Mostly False 31%, False 27%, Pants on Fire 7% http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ted-cruz/

  • Bornaconservative

    We are waiting on your wordy response with baited breath, BOY

  • KirklesWorth

    Hahahaha…not. And BTW, I hear Ted Cruz is lookig for someone to follow behind him and scoop up the poop…

  • KirklesWorth

    Wait no more…look below.

  • borneaconservattive

    Wow, Did mom get all your back to school shopping done, BOY?

  • KirklesWorth

    What, you mean I can’t use your oh-so-funny quote back at you? You’re so mean…

  • bornaconservative

    I think you might really be a paid poster for billary… here to piss off the conservatives, do tell, boy

  • KirklesWorth

    Is that your response to getting schooled? That’s disappointing. Well, you gotta insult me when you can’t argue with the facts now, right?

  • bornaconservative

    And they call me “dead eye dick”, BOY…I fly for free, tell me where and we can discuss it over coffee…

  • KirklesWorth

    I’m sure they do. I don’t swing that way.

  • bornaconservative

    OK, you are apaid poster, whom needs to be flagged, no one is that stupid

  • KirklesWorth

    So now that you’ve been schooled on your buddy Ted Cruz, you just want to sit here and trade insults, eh? That’s fine…if you’re that needing of attention I’ll help you out.

  • Tom
  • Artfuldgr

    MIAMI HERALD
    Republicans have seen a surge in registered voters in Florida since the
    start of the year, cutting the Democrats’ overall advantage to the
    thinnest in state history and giving Donald Trump’s presidential
    campaign more reason to be hopeful. Since January, the number of
    registered voters in Florida has jumped by 377,000 with nearly 60
    percent of that within the Republican ranks — a sign that Trump is
    drawing voters to the party, his campaign argues. Democrats now have a
    259,000-vote edge over Republicans — only half of what it was four years
    ago

  • Gene

    If Trump had been smart he would taken the speech as an endorsement and adopted it as is own. I was almost to the point where I thought I would vote for Trump, but when I heard these people booing the idea of defending the Constitution I was pushed farther away than ever.

  • FrozenPatriot

    …and he links to WaPo more than any other news outlet when replying to me. I’m starting to think TwinkleToes is a Hitlery operative.

  • KirklesWorth

    Did I say “don’t listen to your sources”? Nope, I just listed them according to their position on Pew’s chart. Do you have a problem with putting their ideology in perspective?

  • Tchhht!!!

    Do ya think maybe he did that to avoid the MSM piling on about disunity?

  • DW Brandel

    Ted Cruz promised to endorse the republican nominee. He did not endorse the republican nominee. Hence Lyin’ Ted. A lie is a lie is a lie.

  • Torcer

    Look at the evidence at hand:
    1. It doesn’t really do much in the way criticizing Comrade Clinton.
    2. While at the same time it does little in trying to advocate for Trump
    3. Finally it’s behaviour is hardly amenable to some supporting it’s candidate.

  • Torcer

    How many articles has Dave posted that YOU recommended?
    That’s assuming you’ve posted something useful for once.

  • Torcer

    Where did you get that strawman?

  • KirklesWorth

    Little old me? I’m having a hard enough time following your anti-Trump (but not Hillary enabling) stories to push people towards your Convention of States, secession, or revolution. I can’t be looking up pro-Trump stories and submit them against yours and Dave Blount’s agenda!

  • Torcer

    As someone else asked you before – Why are you here?

  • KirklesWorth

    To keep an eye things. Did you have a problem with me being here?

  • Torcer

    You can do that without incessantly attacking Conservatives…

    Perhaps you should try being constructive for once.

  • FrozenPatriot

    I submit that TwinkleToes’s petulance and abrasiveness does more to push folks away from the cult o’ Trump than towards it. If it was revealed that he/she collects a paycheck from team Hitlery, well color me surprised…

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  • Daniel

    Nope. This is and always has been about what the people want. And before anything else, the MESS must be cleaned up. Forget about ideology. The dangerous things and the wrong things which lead to the wrong results have to be dealt with. And especially identity driven socio-political agendas have to be called out for what they are — a political agenda of revenge — and rejected.

    Cruz still thinks he is a messiah. That by pure acts of speaking to ideology while he is absolutely siding with the globalist agenda, he will somehow win office. And winning office is the goal of Hillary and Cruz and most every politician. Winning office is not Trump’s goal. Winning office is just the necessary step to being able to fix the problems we live with.

    And you have to recognize the truth in this. Political office and political power “as a goal” is the most dangerous and disgusting devolvement in our system today.

    Trump is winning and has practically already won. This campaign isn’t against Hillary — she has already lost and she isn’t even campaigning in any real sense. This is all about the establishment versus the people who are tired of it all.

  • Daniel

    This is how you know there is mental illness here. When the rest of the world, including the people who were there actually rejecting Cruz for not endorsing Trump, heard what Cruz implied and what he didn’t say, they all unanimously knew what was wrong. But not these few people. Oh no, they want to believe that it was something else. They want to believe that all of these people rejecting Cruz were actually rejecting the US Constitution.

    You’re living in a twisted universe which is apparently separate from the one everyone else is living in. And there is clearly a perception and interpretation problem as well. When beliefs overpower objective reality, you have religious zealotry… you have moonbattery. You have become your own moonbats.

  • KirklesWorth

    This coming from the one who wants an “uprising” and will foment hostilities with republicans and conservatives against the republican candidate to do it. I will speak out against Hillary being president – “petulance and abrasiveness” notwithstanding.

  • KirklesWorth

    Constructive like you? What is the goal of your “constructive” attacks against Trump? What ends justifies your means?

  • FrozenPatriot

    Not an uprising, a cleansing of government worship mentality from the country in general, and progressives in both parties in particular.

  • KirklesWorth

    But of course you have to “assist” this to happen rather than letting it occur “naturally”.

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth

    Constructive like you? What is the goal of your “constructive” attacks against Trump? What ends justifies your means?

    Is that your mantra?

  • Torcer

    Yes, that is exactly my contention.

    They could spend their time trying to advocate for Trump and attack Comrade Clinton, but instead they incessantly attack those of us who dare mention a discouraging word about Don.

    They some have the mistaken idea that the phrase “The beatings will continue until morale improves” as some sort of guide.

    There are several around here who engage in the behavior and Don’s dropping poll numbers should show them that their efforts aren’t panning out – IF the point of their activities is to support the man.

  • KirklesWorth

    Sure, makes perfect sense. On an anti-Trump site with anti-Trump articles and anti-Trump commenters, some poor unsuspecting Trump-supporter is going to arrive and I’m going to put them off. Hilarious!

  • KirklesWorth

    No, that’s my question. What is your desired outcome of this election?

  • Torcer

    Are you denying that this site criticizes both candidates?

  • Torcer

    That a candidate who champions liberty wins

  • KirklesWorth

    I don’t see anything about denying that. This site:

    1. Criticizes Trump
    2. Criticizes Hillary
    3. Is ambiguous about the final goal of doing #1 and #2

    Do you care to answer point 3?

  • KirklesWorth

    I see. Nice in concept, lacking in the concrete. So if Hillary wins, she is championing liberty?

  • Torcer

    No.

    Now that I’ve answered your questions – now it YOUR turn: Do you believe the polls?

    Shouldn’t Trump and his followers try something different?

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth

    Sure, makes perfect sense. On an anti-Trump site with anti-Trump articles and anti-Trump commenters, some poor unsuspecting Trump-supporter is going to arrive and I’m going to put them off. Hilarious!

    So now you’ve contradicted yourself

  • KirklesWorth

    But Hillary will be the default if all other plans fail, right?

    Answers at: http://moonbattery.com/?p=75247#comment-2845000115

  • KirklesWorth

    Right…are you now saying this isn’t an anti-Trump site?

  • FrozenPatriot

    Yep. And…?

  • KirklesWorth

    Just that if your plan doesn’t work, we’ll get Hillary.

  • Torcer

    My response is here:
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75389#comment-2847826573
    Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..

  • Torcer

    And once again you dodge a question with as yet ANOTHER question.

    Are you denying that this site criticizes both candidates?

  • KirklesWorth

    This is an anti-Trump site. Please correct me if I am wrong.

  • Torcer

    And once again you dodge a question with as yet ANOTHER question.

    Are you denying that this site criticizes both candidates?

  • KirklesWorth

    What, are you blind? Look up:

    I don’t see anything about denying that. This site:

    1. Criticizes Trump
    2. Criticizes Hillary
    3. Is ambiguous about the final goal of doing #1 and #2

    Do you care to answer point 3? http://moonbattery.com/?p=75254#comment-2844920105

  • Torcer

    And once again you dodge a question with as yet ANOTHER question.

    Are you denying that this site criticizes both candidates?

  • KirklesWorth

    Look at #2 and ask me another time.

  • Torcer

    Try this – Answer my question for once:

    Are you denying that this site criticizes both candidates?

  • KirklesWorth

    I’ve answered it several times. Do you get paid by the post?

    I don’t see anything about denying that. This site:

    1. Criticizes Trump
    2. Criticizes Hillary
    3. Is ambiguous about the final goal of doing #1 and #2

    Do you care to answer point 3?http://moonbattery.com/?p=75254#comment-2844920105

    This equates to:

    1. This site criticizes Trump
    2. This site criticizes Hillary
    3. This site is ambiguous about the final goal of doing #1 and 2.

    Do you care to answer point 3?

  • Torcer

    It’s a yes or no question.

    Try this – Answer my question for once:

    Are you denying that this site criticizes both candidates?
    Yes or No?
    Or Y or N…. You should be able to type one character…

  • KirklesWorth

    I don’t see anything about denying that. This site:

    1. Criticizes Trump
    2. Criticizes Hillary (This equals yes. Was I unclear?)
    3. Is ambiguous about the final goal of doing #1 and #2

    Do you care to answer point 3?

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth 3. Is ambiguous about the final goal of doing #1 and #2

    What factual proof do you have of this contention?
    Be sure to include plenty EXCERPTS and Links from authentic reference sites in your answer.

  • KirklesWorth

    Because I said so. Denial?

  • Torcer

    KirklesWorth

    Because I said so. Denial?
    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75254#comment-2849142888

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…
    .Breath..
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    Seriously?
    Thanks for a good laugh!
    That’s one for the ages.

  • KirklesWorth

    No denial per usual. Maybe you don’t know what “ambiguous” means: am·big·u·ous amˈbiɡyo͞oəs/ adjective (of language) open to more than one interpretation; having a double meaning; unclear or inexact because a choice between alternatives has not been made.

    1. Criticizes Trump
    2. Criticizes Hillary
    3. Is ambiguous about the final goal of doing #1 and #2

    So, what is the final goal of doing #1 and #2?

  • Torcer

    Again:

    KirklesWorth 3. Is ambiguous about the final goal of doing #1 and #2

    What factual proof do you have of this contention?
    Be sure to include plenty EXCERPTS and Links from authentic reference sites in your answer.

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