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Aug 28 2016

Plea for Trump to Keep His Word and Drop Out

If only The Donald would keep his word, or gave a damn what happens to the disintegrating Republican Party, or wanted to save the country from the impending Hillary Administration, he might find this ad persuasive:

The ad, produced by Republicans, will run in swing-state suburbs.

Never mind sporadic polls that have Trump only a few points down. We live in a republic, not a direct democracy. Polls only matter as they relate to the Electoral College. A recent analysis gives Trump a 1 in 10 chance of beating Shrillary — about the same as the odds of an NFL kicker missing a field goal from the 20-yard line.

Those odds will become even longer now that he has admitted that he has no plans to honor his promises regarding his signature immigration issue.

Unless something amazing happens, Trump will lose. He and his supporters know it as well as anyone, which is why they have been on the hunt for excuses and scapegoats. It is why Sheldon Adelson is withholding a promised $100 million donation, and why Trump isn’t even bothering to seriously prepare for the debates.

Shrillary is so corrupt, inept, and unlikable that any serious Republican candidate would stand a chance against her even now. Yet here we are, stuck with Trump.

On tips from Torcer and 762×51.



  • Torcer

    Keep in mind the proggies are concerned about just this eventuality:

    Opinion: Will Donald Trump make it to November?
    Aug 5, 2016
    Democrats need to keep their ‘unfit’ opponent in the presidential race
    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — An unprecedentedly bizarre presidential campaign turned even more so over the past week as Republican nominee Donald Trump was labeled “crazy” in headlines and media speculated openly how the party could replace him at the top of the ticket.
    [..]
    But Democrats, too, have a vested interest in keeping Trump in the race as they field their own deeply flawed and unpopular candidate for the White House.
    [..]
    Trump sympathizers have charged that Khizr and Ghazala Khan were put on the Democratic convention agenda to talk about their fallen son, Humayun, precisely to bait Trump into the kind of reaction that was not long in coming.

    Whether it was a tactic or not, the ensuing fracas went almost too far as it opened the door to speculation about actually replacing Trump on the ticket.

    In the current rules of the Republican National Committee, Rule No. 9 specifies that the 168 committee members can name a replacement if any vacancies occur on the national ticket “by reason of death, declination, or otherwise.”

    The three committee members from each state would cast the same number of votes the state would have in a full convention, and the same simple majority would be required for the new nominee.

    However unfit they want to show Trump to be, replacing him is not something Democrats want to achieve.

    Imagine for a moment that Trump gets fed up with the whole thing, or his family intervenes to save him from further embarrassment — both seem unlikely at the moment but it is a volatile race — and the RNC coalesces around, say, House Speaker Paul Ryan as the new presidential nominee.
    [..]
    Far better to keep Trump in the race, sucking up all the media oxygen with one controversy after another. This keeps the media spotlight away from Clinton, and eases the political pressure on her for her own transgressions.
    [..]
    If the Democrats can continue to discredit Trump without actually pushing him out, it will be more than ever Clinton’s race to lose.
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/will-donald-trump-make-it-to-november-2016-08-05

  • ramrodd

    Are We Comprehending The Barnhardt Axiom YET??!! | Barnhardt

    The fact that a given person is holding or seeking high-level public office is, in and of itself, proof that said person is morally and/or psychologically UNFIT to hold public office.

    The Barnhardt Axiom.

    You realize this applies every bit as strongly to Trump too, right? Tell me you are not so stupid as to believe for one second that Trump would actually do ANY of the things he is talking about. He’s just smart enough to know what y’all want to hear, and is saying it. You know how I know that Trump will never follow through on anything he is saying?

    BECAUSE. HE. IS. RUNNING. FOR. POLITICAL. OFFICE. IN. A. NATION. THAT NO. LONGER. EXISTS.

    Remember, the only thing that actually WANTS to be in a cesspit is a
    PIECE OF CRAP.

    http://www.barnhardt.biz/2015/12/19/are-we-comprehending-the-barnhardt-axiom-yet/

  • Mr. Freemarket

    In the cesspool of public office, Hillary is a much bigger piece of crap.

  • ramrodd

    I STAND AGAINST WHAT YOU BELIEVE – YOU STAND FOR THE BETTER OF 2 EVILS…………..

    Willing Demons

    What is the United States? It is not a republic as it follows no semblence of its Constitution, the very foundation of its power, of
    its authority. It is a system of terror, with the power to destroy lives with contrived charges; offhandedly encumbering citizens with debt and criminal charges on a whim. This is the very system our forefather’s fled and risked everything to resist. In effect, they have taken our citizenship, robbed us of our birthright.

    Yet, we do not fight.

    Freedom? They watch us as if we are all suspects. Cameras
    are everywhere; software tracks us; our new vehicles and cell phones will tell them where we are at any given moment. Our writings are recorded and available as evidence against us though no charges have been filed. The result of these intrusions into our lives will become the evidence upon which they will seek a warrant. That cannot be more backward from the intent of the Constitution.

    Yet, we do not fight.

    Enemies of the people are encouraged to roam free among us,
    often at the informal invitation of the government. Our borders are not secure, there is no will to discriminate between honest immigrants seeking a better life and those intent on victimizing legal and legitimate citizens of the United States.

    Yet, we do not fight.

    Our economy, the very power that denies enemies to risk war
    on these shores, is no better than it was in 2009. Every figure compiled by the government is a ruse, it is fraud to mollify the people. Politicians lie and contrive to further the fraud to secure their own power with no regard for the dangerous waters they have navigated at our expense.

    Yet, we do not fight.

    The tax-paying citizens of this nation intent on doing right
    and living within the laws have been targeted by the very government they support. They have become the villains while true enemies have been coddled and encouraged. Every aspect of their lives have come under attack; their budgets, their religions, their privacy, their pastimes and their associations. Anything that will undermine the society of the typical American has become taboo, while all manner of deviance and decadence has been promoted; cheered on to success.

    Yet, we do not fight.

    If the ideals of life, liberty and property are not worth defending with our lives, we deserve none of them and have proved it with our inaction over the past ten years. There is not a single representative, senator, president or supreme court justice in office today who has not committed treason. Not one.

    Vote? Are you kidding me? There is no reason, beyond
    societal suicide, to vote for anyone willing to seek the office. It is a vote to destroy yourself; to forfeit your wealth; to eliminate your job; to incur the wrath of a jealous and vengeful government, because a government unloosed from
    those noble principles upon which this nation was founded can become nothing more than an evil among us and those seeking office its willing demons.

    The only thing left to do is fight. Though it is much easier
    to believe in unicorns and watch TV.

    http://christianmerc.blogspot.com/2014/09/willing-demons.html

  • Dr. John Charles

    what this author is proposing is that trump dropout and forfeit the presidency to Hillary Clinton. He needs to go back to the Daily Beast or Media Matters. if one cares about the future of the country’s democracy this thinking is madness. However, if the agenda is the same as the neo-Marxists this article makes perfect sense.

  • Dr. John Charles

    Maybe Trump will or maybe Trump will not do what he says. If he does not he will be a one term president. However we know exactly what Hillary is going to do as a given. Has this nation lost all critical thinking ability? Our government schools that good at driving out objective thinking? With Obama Americans voted on race, with Clinton Americans are voting on gender and now were encouraged to vote on personality. (rolling eyes)

  • ramrodd

    God knows I tried. | Barnhardt

    Elections. For the love of God, if you don’t hear anything else I say for the rest of the evening, listen to this.

    Elections are no longer free. They are staged theater, designed to maintain the illusion of representative governance and to enrich the political class. This is despotism. If after this mess that we just went through, if you do not understand this, you are beyond hope.

    My God.

    And then you have election fraud on top of it. Here in Colorado ten counties had voter turnout in excess of the total adult population of the [county]. Not just the registered voters – the total adult population of the county, excuse me, the county. And what did Romney do? Roll over. How can you not see this?
    How can you not understand? Do not talk to me anymore about elections. There are no elections. There are no more free elections. Just stand over that dead horse and beat it – it is never going to get up.

    For the love of God.

    I’m sorry, but there comes a certain point where you have got to pull your head out of your ass and deal with reality. You cannot just keep going on with this over and over and over again, saying, “Well if I just give somebody some money and I put some signs in my yard I’m doing enough…”

    No, you’re not doing enough. You’re not doing enough at all. Not even close. In fact, if you’re participating in this, you’re part of the problem.”

    http://www.barnhardt.biz/2016/04/13/god-knows-i-tried/

  • Why should he drop out when he’s going to be the next POTUS?

  • ramrodd

    Democracy vs Constitutional Republic – What is America’s Real Form of
    Government https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj0zBMq1EaE

  • ramrodd

    Elections are no longer free. They are staged theater, designed to
    maintain the illusion of representative governance and to enrich the
    political class. This is despotism. If after this mess that we just
    went through, if you do not understand this, you are beyond hope.

    My God.

  • Mr. Freemarket

    We can prepare. We can live our lives determined to be free men. In the words of a patriotic American, “I have not yet begun to fight.”

  • KirklesWorth

    Interesting…particularly the part where those who routinely insult the establishment republicans all of a sudden embrace them to attack Trump. I guess they would expect that Ted Cruz would end up back as the candidate, but he’s burned so many bridges that the republicans could come up with a candidate even less-conservative than Trump.

    The funny thing is, the Washington Post did a story back in July and they talked about Tim Kane (not Sen. Tim Kaine) as a possibility who really isn’t all that conservative either:

    Kane these days is considered politically eclectic — pro-immigration and pro-free trade, pro-national security, fiscally conservative, socially moderate (pro-life and pro-gay rights) — which would help draw votes from both major candidates. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/07/13/what-if-free-the-delegates-fails/?utm_term=.51f1106ef42d

    I love the progressive talking points though.

  • JeffersonSpinningInGrave

    “Our government schools that good at driving out objective thinking?”

    Yes. If they weren’t, we would never have had 8 years of Obama.

  • 762×51

    Your boy is losing to her anyway, your plurality candidate cannot beat her, his negatives are fear too high, always have been. Whether he continues on and loses to her or drops out and a replacement candidate loses to her, the end result is the same. You imbeciles have doomed us all.

  • Heltau

    What the crap is going on here in this country.
    The gop WANTS shrilly, the murdering traitor craphole to reside in the oral office in d.c.?
    What are they believing to do something like this?
    Fracken libturds!!!

  • 762×51

    The fight is coming, soon, very soon, now.

  • Torcer

    Please cite the polls and analysis to bolster this assertion of yours.

    And do not expect others to provide it for you.

  • Torcer

    Are you afraid Jeb trump will drop out?

  • KirklesWorth

    It would work out perfectly for you, since you’ve been working three times as hard to defeat Trump and Hillary.

  • KirklesWorth

    Your polls obsession is second only to your anti-Trump obsession. But of course, liberals use polls to try and sway popular opinion – kind of like suggesting three times as many anti-Trump stories as anti-Hillary stories. And the liberals are anti-Trump as well. Wow…coincidences, huh?

  • Tom

    So you’re saying that no matter which shoe drops next in the continuing Hillary Email / Foundation / Corruption / Failing Health scandals, that Trump’s “negatives” – from late August – would be impossible to overcome?
    That no matter WHAT Julian Assange reveals in the next few weeks (and he assures the world that he DOES have more…much more), that Trump’s “negatives” would tilt the scales, no matter what,and that folks unease with Trump’s plain-speaking would, gosh darn it!, outweigh any further revelations about HRC’s crookedness.
    Sorry, I can’t see it happening that way.
    I say that after this election, the “Bradley Effect” will be renamed the “Hillary Effect”. Even here in blue, blue CT, (yeah, yeah…) I have not seen a single Hillary yard sign. Plenty of Trump signs – including a small homemade billboard emblazoned with “Make America Great Again. Trump 2016”, and a scattering of Weld or Stein signs, but NO Hillary.
    Also, the Trump mini-billboard has been up for 6 months and it hasn’t been vandalized / torched. That might not sound like much, but if Trump was hated as he’s made out to be, that sign would have been smashed / burnt. My feeling is that there are an awful lot of “Bradley Effect” folks out there who don’t want to tell the pollsters that they support the guy the entire media apparatus believes is a bigoted hater, so they go the safe route.
    Conversations with my neighbors along our street have also revealed surprising, not-what-you’d-expect Trump supporters and – again – not a single person who has told me that HRC’s the one for them.
    We’ll see….

  • Stosh

    Polls mean little for either candidate unless the pollsters show how they factored the following large groups into theirs…

    Conservatives who see Chump as just another liberal progressive northeast businessman (see: Romney 2012)

    Socialist Bernie supporters who believe the nomination was stolen from them, and will vote Green party without regret.

    Independent voters that will go to the polls and only vote down ticker, or write-in a presidential vote as they see both major candidates as fatally flawed.

    Voters in Dem & GOP, along with independents who will stay home because they found out the polling places are not handing out barf bags before you go into the booth.

  • Cruz Control

    Torcer and 7.62 are already on their knees salivating over the prospect of licking Hillary’s boots. They might even get to hold her full Depends or touch the hem of her Mao suit. Pathetic losers.

  • Cruz Control

    He daydreams of holding Hillary’s shitstained Depends from his lonely prison cell.

  • Chantal

    Next time American’s for prosperity calls and asks me for anything . I will cuss them out ! Also they have meetings at a pizza place by my house and I will let the owner know what Rat Filth traitors they are working to help Hillary Clinton . Also Stop pretending to know what Mr. Adelson is doing with his money .

  • 762×51

    Progressives are ideologues, R or D, you are all so inured of your particular brand of fecal fascism that you cannot break free of it. It will make very little difference what “drops” in terms of an October surprise, the die is cast. The nomination of a Progressive for the GOPee candidate has completed the necessary preparations for an all out civil war.

    Your little cesspool will make zero difference, it will go to Hillary as it has gone to every Democrat candidate since 1992 so no anecdotal evidence of your neighbors beliefs has any bearing on anything. It is more likely that they don’t want tRump but also don’t want to have to deal with Trumpeteers and their LDS / Scientology style bullshit so they just avoid it completely. You underestimate how outcast you all have made yourselves with all this cult like bullshit.

    The Electoral College is what matters and there, tRump has almost no chance of winning, never did. That you Trumpanzees failed to take that into account is on you, not us. Doubling down on the mistake only compounds the mistake, it can never correct it.

  • Tom

    As I said, we’ll see, won’t we?

  • Cruz Control

    7.62×51 (he can’t even figure out how to use the decimal point) prefers that round over the Winchester .308 because he’s really a European elitist and hates American rednecks. A poseur, a Soros paid troll in other words. He also salivates over getting the chance to carry one of Hillary’s used Depends.

  • Cruz Control

    You mean when you trolls fight over who gets paid more: Clinton Foundation trolls or Soros trolls?

  • 762×51

    ROTFLMAO!! European elitist?!?! LOLOLOL, stop, I can’t breathe. I must really be getting to these turd eaters.

    Are the members of the US Military also “European elitists? That is how they refer to it. Sit in a lecture on the Nomenclature and Operation of the M40A5 or M240B some time. Guess what the caliber designation is for those weapons systems, douche bag? It isn’t .308 Winchester. Since you haven’t the intelligence to comprehend the technical differences between them, I won’t go into it here. Suffice to say you are a fucking imbecile.

    Another NOOB psycho tRumper, come to MB after all these years to spread his verbal feces. Attacking me over my screen name is the best you can do? Let’s see, I’ve used that same screen name for more than NINE YEARS on MB. You’ve been here less than three months and you want to start that bullshit? OK asshole, you want a fucking war, that is my business.

    Poser huh? Care to find out, pussy? Come on bitch, you want to talk shit, show everyone you have what it takes to back it up. None of the other tRump cowards have had the balls, most likely you don’t either.

    I have some M118LR, if you want one, just say the word.

  • 762×51

    You fascist fucks already planning on putting the opposition ion prison?

    Sounds just like you.

  • 762×51

    Unfortunately, yes.

  • 762×51

    No asshole, I mean when we start killing you dirty Progressive motherfuckers. That clear enough for you?

  • Iwasonemore

    the crooks crossed over and are now sharing corrupt power btwn them – without Trump becoming Prez, those that aren’t backing him don’t care if Hillary does become prez. She promised them, as they (Bush, Romney, Cruz, others) promised her: all for one and one for all; unless Trump becomes President.

    Why he gets attacked so much… from that same part of both sides.

    What’s interesting is: all the elected government officials (both sides) who aren’t attacking him. Yeah, they aren’t all out there campaigning for him. Too afraid if he doesn’t win, “they’d” become the next target(?) But they aren’t attacking him. That’s a good sign. They can all work together once he wins – fix this mess!

    Hoping they’ve learned not to wear lampshades while in office. There’s an electronic device to catch them at anything they do/any email they send/any bank transfer into some account/any phone call/etc.

    If Trump wins – we will enter the era of Honest Government. (If not, we’re pretty much screwed.)

  • Cruz Control

    You watch too many Star Trek reruns, genius: “ion [sic] prison.”

  • Cruz Control

    What do they say again? Oh yeah: once you’re directly over the target is when you get flak.” Them sure is a lot of words .308 Winchester. But I guess not too many for a European wuss or a feminist.

    Take a look in the mirror:
    https://iwantedwings.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/iphone_lumbersexual_560.jpg?w=560

  • Torcer

    What is the scientific basis for your assertions?

    BTW, your criteria makes about as much sense as the incessant repetition of the false premise of ‘three times as many anti-Trump stories as anti-Hillary stories.’

  • KirklesWorth

    You dare question me on what you know is true? In the month of May, it was a factor of 6x. Here is the list of Torcer recommended articles to Dave Blount for the month of May regarding either Trump or Hillary. http://moonbattery.com/?p=75451#comment-2854568143

    Torcer’s recommended articles from May with “Hillary”, “Clinton”, or “Shrillary” in the title:

    1. Watch Hillary Lie for 13 Minutes Straight
    2. Hillary’s Anti-Gun Demagoguery Crushed
    3. Shrillary Unleashes Astroturf Army of Professional Trolls
    4. Trump Already Running to the Left of Hillary Clinton
    5. Fact Check on Hillary’s Email Spin
    6. Hillary and Dogs
    7. Hillary’s First Act as President

    Torcer’s recommended articles from May with “Donald”, “Trump”, or “Orange” in the title:

    1. Fox News Reaps the Reward for Devoting Itself to Promoting Trump: Surpassed by CNN
    2. Rapists for Trump
    3. Trump Accuses Cruz’s Father of Involvement in JFK Assassination
    4. Proof That Mainstream Media Is Selecting Trump as Nominee
    5. The Last, Desperate Hope: Stopping Trump at the Convention
    6. Epic Rant on the Disaster Trumpsters Have Wreaked
    7. A Foretaste of How Dems Will Use Trump to Destroy GOP
    8. Trump Admits He Was Lying When He Linked Rafael Cruz to JFK Assassination
    9. On the Day After Cruz Dropped Out, the Predictable Trump Flip-Flops Began
    10. After Abandoning Self-Funding Pose, Trump Picks Steven Mnuchin, Who Has Worked for Goldman Sachs and Soros Fund Management, as Finance Chairman
    11. Trump Refuses to Condemn Supporters for Sending Death Threats to Reporter
    12. The Donald Tries to Exploit Cinco de Mayo, Gets Guacamole on His Orange Face
    13. Trump Floats Partially Defaulting on the National Debt
    14. Donald Trump Says China Remix
    15. Petition to Block Trump at Convention
    16. Trump Proposes Printing Our Way Out of Debt
    17. Trump Already Running to the Left of Hillary Clinton
    18. Paul Manafort Describes Trump Presidency in Four Words
    19. Trump Threatens Our 401(k)s
    20. Trump’s Promised Ban on Muslims Becomes “Just a Suggestion”
    21. Brad Thor’s #NeverTrump Stand
    22. Report: Trump’s Tariffs Would Cost Each American Household $6,000 per Year
    23. Trumpster Sings Worship Song
    24. Trump Crows Triumphantly That He Has Turned Georgia Into a Swing State
    25. Casino Magnate Buys Trump
    26. Trump Media: No More Reliable Than the Liberal MSM
    27. How Trump Pretending to Be His Own Imaginary Spokesman During Interviews Shows He Is Like Founding Fathers
    28. Melania Trump on Jewish Reporter Menaced by Trumpsters: The Reporter Provoked Them
    29. Unofficial Trump Consigliere Roger Stone: President Trump Should Shut Down CNN
    30. #NeverTrump Writer Confesses to the Error of Her Ways
    31. Meet Jan Brewer, a Likely Choice for Trump’s VP
    32. Trump’s Laughably Bogus Supreme Court List
    33. Top Trump Surrogate Admits That We Will Get Virtual Wall and Virtual Deportations
    34. Trump Favors Free Trade This Week
    35. Trump Loses a Delegate
    36. Trump: Who the Hell Cares if There’s a Trade War?
    37. Trump and the 2008 Housing Market Crash
    38. What They Sell Out When They Sell Out to Trump
    39. NRA’s Trump Endorsement
    40. Trump Campaign Emails Battle Plan to Enemy Camp
    41. Trump Begins to Court Muslims
    42. Mitch McConnell Pledges Fealty to Trump
    43. Trump Rallies Mob Against Judge in His Fraud Trial
    44. Major Endorsement for Trump’s Foreign Policy

  • randal

    social conservative populists are not dropping out we are taking the party over from neo-con artist war mongers ayn randist movement conservative free traders and the buiness community/ wealthy pro illegal alien republicans. get used to it or don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

  • Stosh

    Sweet Meteor of Death is polling higher than Ross Perot ever did, and 12% of Demonkrats think Killary is honest. Chump shoots himself in the foot every time he speaks.

    I think there is widespread dissatisfaction with the top of both tickets from both parties. Not sure how this translates into votes in Nov. but it has to skew the current polls, AND in whose favor is anyone’s guess.

    Only basis I have is the unprecedented negatives for both candidates, and a belief that whatever the pollsters are reporting is a WAG, at this point.

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  • Daniel

    I applaud the moral position people are taking. This honorable suicide is truly touching. Despite knowing the results of Trump dropping out, they want Trump to drop out for reasons of principle which is FAR more important than the results. I applaud that from the deepest parts of my soul.

    After all, this is the way Social Justice Warriors think. And they are called Moonbats.

    Forget about the clear and obvious consequences. You want Hillary for president. Am I right?

  • Cruz Control

    You’re going to kill your own? Because anyone content to send Hillary to the White House is a progressive. Too much for your lizard brain to handle?

  • KirklesWorth
  • Torcer

    #AnsTheQuestionPlease

    What is the scientific basis for your assertions?

  • KirklesWorth

    How about this?

  • Stosh

    A more than basic understanding of statistics. For a poll to be accurate it must have a weighted selection of respondents. Both parties are fractured enough as to make this impossible for any poll taker, if their margin of error is under +/- 20% they’re results are bogus, regardless of who’s ahead.

  • Torcer

    Then by all means please detail how all of the polls failed in this endeavour.
    Be sure to include plenty EXCERPTS and Links from authentic reference sites in your answer.

  • KirklesWorth

    Please list the “authentic reference sites”…?

  • Stosh

    Giant Meteor hitting the earth polling well in presidential election
    http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2016/06/30/giant-meteor-hitting-earth-polling-well-presidential-election/86572136/

    “An actual polling company actually polled 853 actual registered voters to see if…”

  • david

    The name of this site is certainly befitting. You claim to be anti-Hillary, and yet you spend your day blogging in an attempt to help get her elected.

  • Torcer

    And that doesn’t answer the question…. TRY AGAIN..

  • 762x51_Sec8

    No asshole, I mean when we start killing you dirty Progressive motherfuckers. That clear enough for you?

  • J.j. Cintia

    7.62mm is the calibre of the AK-47. Pretty obvious. How much does Soros pay you?

  • Grumpy Cat

    MIght want to change your Depends.

  • Grumpy Cat

    And of course every time I point out .308 Winchester he has nothing to say. He’s a commie progressive.

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