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Sep 28 2016

The Binary Choice

If you have criticized The Donald in the presence of his supporters, you probably know what it’s like to be clubbed over the head with the word “binary.” Trumpsters have simplified the entire political universe in all of its complexity to a binary choice: either you support Donald Trump, or you support Hillary Clinton. My ears ring endlessly from having it yelled in my face that there is literally no other way to look at it.

Actually, there are other ways. If you want to keep things simple with a binary choice, this one is much more constructive: supporting unscrupulous, unfit, authoritarian progressives versus not supporting unscrupulous, unfit, authoritarian progressives. With this binary choice, the options are actually meaningfully different, and you don’t have to make yourself feel dirty or ashamed.

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The binary choice.



  • Chronos Z. Wonderpig

    well, either you do not vote or you vote for Hills or Trump. The other 2 don’t count.

  • 762×51

    WARNING TO ALL MOONBATTERY POSTERS:

    The troll who calls itself kirklesworth is capturing your posts, specifically ones that disagree with him, or denigrate its cult leader or refuse to follow its cult ideology and saving them for later use. It has stated that it is here “to keep an eye on things”, meaning you and I. It is a fascist Progressive, who else would do such a thing? Be very cautious of what you say and how you interact with it. Who knows where it is sending the information it gathers here.

    I know everyone is as sick of it as I am, but we must not allow it to run wild, that would be to surrender to it.

  • bobdog19006

    Dave, I don’t get it. You’re normally quite lucid, and you write “real good”, but I don’t see you offering up a solution to you conundrum.

    I get that you don’t like Trump. I have my reservations about him too, but I have no illusions about what a Clinton presidency means. I was equally certain about Obama, and I was right.

    Come November, we will elect either Trump or Clinton. There is no third choice.

  • FrozenPatriot

    This is called a “No Win Situation” to anyone who cherishes the Constitution and the principles enshrined therein. There is a third choice: vote Darrel Castle and sleep well knowing you haven’t supported evil.

  • FrozenPatriot

    The NSA has been capturing all our posts, emails, text messages, etc. for years. KanklesWorship can’t touch us, but its beloved big government can…

  • bobdog19006

    So you had a heated discussion with kirklesworth, huh?

  • bobdog19006

    Who the hell is Darrel Castle?

  • FrozenPatriot

    Darrell Castle: http://bfy.tw/7vZb

  • TrojanMan

    Solutions:

    Convention of States – http://www.conventionofstates.com/
    Secession – DoI
    Revolution – DoI

    No matter who is elected we will continue the slide into tyranny.

  • TrojanMan

    I call it his “hit list”

  • TrojanMan

    I attended a convention of states townhall meeting last night and i left feeling optimistic for the first time in a long time. Here is the Texas plan:

    http://gov.texas.gov/news/press-release/21829

    “Governor Abbott offered the following constitutional amendments:

    1. Prohibit Congress from regulating activity that occurs wholly within one State.
    2. Require Congress to balance its budget.
    3. Prohibit administrative agencies—and the unelected bureaucrats that staff them—from creating federal law.
    4. Prohibit administrative agencies—and the unelected bureaucrats that staff them—from preempting state law.
    5. Allow a two-thirds majority of the States to override a U.S. Supreme Court decision.
    6. Require a seven-justice super-majority vote for U.S. Supreme Court decisions that invalidate a democratically enacted law.
    7. Restore the balance of power between the federal and state governments by limiting the former to the powers expressly delegated to it in the Constitution.
    8. Give state officials the power to sue in federal court when federal officials overstep their bounds.
    9. Allow a two-thirds majority of the States to override a federal law or regulation.”

    If 34 states vote and call for a convention there is NOTHING the feds can do about it. This convention can pass proposed amendments that then go to each states legislatures and if 3/4 approve those amendments become part of the constitution.

    This is it guys the last effort to save the republic. If this fails the only other way would be through force.

  • Wilberforce

    100% agreed. I get their emails and eagerly await reading them. Something’s got to give. Also, repealing the 17th Amendment would go a long way.

  • bobdog19006

    It was an honest question, patriot.

    Sorry. I won’t vote for a guy I have never heard of, and nobody else will, either. I give him credit for being a Marine and for standing for the Constitution, but with all due respect, your principles are pushing you towards a futile choice.

    Reminds me of the closing scenes in Animal House. In all kindness, make your vote mean something.

  • bobdog19006

    Convention of the States – won’t happen.
    Secession – won’t happen.
    Revolution – won’t happen.

    The election is not about you. It’s about your kids and grandkids.

    We’re 43 days from either Clinton or Trump. One way or the other, trojanman, one of them will be our next president, not because I say so, but because that’s just the way it is. Decide. If it’s Clinton, revolution may be all we’ve got left.

  • Torcer

    Yes, I choose to BLOCK it after it incessantly asked the same question that had been already responded to multiple times.

  • TrojanMan

    Trump and/or Clinton are not part of the solution. Be part of the solution or GTFO of the way.

    No matter who is elected we will continue the slide into tyranny.

  • Torcer

    That is why the national socialist left obsesses about depriving people of their God-given Commonsense Civil rights.

  • Torcer

    Anyone who has had the misfortune of dealing with it can’t help but come away with the impression that it uses the very same tactics of the national socialist left.

  • TrojanMan

    I am unconvinced that bob here is not krinkles.

  • TrojanMan

    They made a good point last night. In order for this to work Democrat states have to get on board. We cannot go after the jugular on things like abortion, SSM, etc. We have to convince the Democrat state legislatures it is also in their own interest to reign in the feds. All 50 states were present at the simulated convention and 6 amendments were passed out of that simulated convention with the help of blue states.

  • FrozenPatriot

    If you like the monopolistic duopoly of the two wings of the big-government uniparty, keep voting R or D. If not, it will take many “throw-away” votes, but things can change…

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  • JeffersonSpinningInGrave

    Under the current system, the other way to make things happen is to primary anti-constitutionalists. I think that has a higher probability of making a dent. Don’t get me wrong, voting your conscience has real value. It won’t elect someone besides Trump or Hillary this election, though. Each candidate has too much core support for that to happen.

  • Torcer

    Was ‘krinkles’ finally banned?

  • bobdog19006

    Hope so, but it won’t happen by November 8.

    My reservations about Trump aside, we must not elect Hillary Clinton as our next president.

  • bobdog19006

    I’m pretty sure, trojanman. I think his name is Kirk Ellsworth.

    Point is, I read his profile and didn’t see a lot we don’t see every day on most conservative blogs, but then again, I never bumped noses with him.

    You guys apparently have a different history with him. No offense meant.

  • Torcer

    How do you know this will be the case?
    Do you happen to have a Deloran time machine in the parking garage?

  • Jill

    The choice has been made and it was made by only 9% of the eligible voters. That doesn’t mean that the rest of the nation will simply fall in line and choose either wretched, progressive candidate. They agree more than they disagree. There will be little difference to how they govern. If you don’t live in a swing state, your absent vote will not make a difference at all. Trump will win my state, but it won’t be because I legitimized him with a vote.

  • Torcer

    I would only take issue that we should all be voting at least in the down ballot races.

    I don’t believe you are required to cast a vote in every contest.

  • bobdog19006

    Tell me about it, jill. I live in Chicago.

    I’m painfully aware of the implications of a wasted vote. But the point is, I do it anyway. Believe it or not, I do it out of principle.

  • bobdog19006

    None of these things will happen before November 8.

    After the election, I’m all ears, torcer.

  • TrojanMan

    I do not think so i think it is just laying low so it wont get banned. I think it may also be using other accounts.

  • Occam’s Stubble

    What six?

  • KirklesWorth
  • TrojanMan

    “OFFICIAL PROPOSALS OF THE
    SIMULATED CONVENTION OF STATES
    Adopted September 23, 2016 in Williamsburg, VA”

    https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/conventionofstates/pages/6429/attachments/original/1474994742/Final_Convention_Report_with_Votes.pdf?1474994742

    The Convention passed amendment proposals on the following six ideas:

    1. Requiring the states to approve any increase in the national debt
    2. Term limits on Congress
    3. Limiting federal overreach by returning the Commerce Clause to its original meaning
    4. Limiting the power of federal regulations by giving an easy congressional override
    5. Require a super majority for federal taxes and repeal the 16th Amendment
    6. Give the states (by a 3/5ths vote) the power to abrogate any federal law, regulation or executive order.

  • KirklesWorth
  • KirklesWorth

    For what?

  • KirklesWorth

    Wrong on both counts, per usual. Ask 762×51, FrozenPatriot, or NotKennedy how much I’ve been “laying low”.

  • KirklesWorth
  • KirklesWorth

    I had no idea I was “depriving people of their God-given Commonsense Civil rights”…I must be formidable! Good thing I’m not part of the “national socialist left”, right?

  • Occam’s Stubble

    I only thought voting Romney/McCain/Dole/Bush was choosing the lesser of two evils. This is the real thing. The only difference is that Trump might have some conservative somewhere whispering in his ear and he might act on their suggestion. Hillary will not.

  • KirklesWorth

    Ashamed of your previous posts? But when people question me, I go back to the archives to put some perspective on things. Got a problem with that?

  • KirklesWorth

    Huh, calling me out (and mangling my handle) again? And here I thought we reached a detente…yes? No?

  • Occam’s Stubble

    So none of the blue states sent any actual Democrats then?

  • KirklesWorth

    Yep…”incessantly” asked the same two questions it refused to answer:

    1. (Asked 20+ times) Hillary is the antithesis of conservatism and must be defeated. Correct? It won’t answer- responds with question “How is Trump any different?”
    2. (Asked 20+ times) You are trying to get Trump defeated to what end? It won’t answer – claims it is a “loaded question”, since it is trying to get Trump defeated it is not in dispute, nor would any such act be done without reason.

  • KirklesWorth

    Yep…this is one of the “tactics” I employ – trying to get my “national socialist left” questions answered:

    1. (Asked 20+ times) Hillary is the antithesis of conservatism and must be defeated. Correct? It won’t answer- responds with question “How is Trump any different?”
    2. (Asked 20+ times) You are trying to get Trump defeated to what end? It won’t answer – claims it is a “loaded question”, since it is trying to get Trump defeated it is not in dispute, nor would any such act be done without reason.

  • TrojanMan

    I talked with some of the people who were there and that participated in the simulation and they said there were flaming liberals (my words) there.

    Will it pan out… probably not but it is worth putting forth 110% effort because the only other recourse involves blood.

  • Torcer

    It’s irrelevant whether or not they occur before the golden day dawns.

    As for what happens IF the safety valve of a COS doesn’t take place…. well consider these words:

    “Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.” -John Locke

    “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”—John F. Kennedy

    “The only reason for not tarring and feathering any government official for effrontery when they tell us what to do is that their power to do so is somehow legitimate. But that legitimacy comes from the exercise of constitutional power. If the Constitution doesn’t mean anything, well, then, maybe it’s time to go long on pitchforks. Because without the Constitution the angry mob is just as legitimate as the perfumed princes of the state.”
    Josh Blackman

  • Torcer

    Apparently it hasn’t given the blocked messages I’m seeing.

    Of course, I’ve learned that with some from the national socialist left, it’s pointless to try and engage them in debate given their lack of moral underpinnings..

  • KirklesWorth

    You’ve got to understand that these people are normal conservatives consumed with anti-Trump hatred that is compromising them emotionally. Torcer and TrojanMan otherwise post conservative things, but are intractable about Trump. You can review 762×51 via the links at the bottom or the posting above. We’ve gone through the scenarios:

    Some wanted Ted Cruz so they were anti-Trump. Okay.
    Some wanted Brad Thor so they were anti-Trump. Okay.
    Some wanted Evan McMullin so they were anti-Trump. Okay.
    Some wanted Darrell Castle so they were anti-Trump. Okay.

    TrojanMan at least admits he wants “Convention of states, secession, or revolution”, but Torcer won’t say why its trying to get Trump defeated. 762×51 just wants a “progressive”-killing civil war.

    But you can see how the transactions work. They start by calling me out, putting me on the defensive, and I have to provide a response with references otherwise they will go nuts. Let’s review a few transactions on today’s story:

    Claim: “i think it is just laying low”. My response: wrong.
    Claim: “…so it wont get banned”. My response: for what?
    Claim: “I think it may also be using other accounts”. My response: wrong.
    Claim: “I am unconvinced that bob here is not krinkles.” My response: wrong (which you obviously know).
    Claim: “it uses the very same tactics of the national socialist left”. My response: trying to get two questions “Hillary is the antithesis of conservatism and must be defeated. Correct?” and “You are trying to get Trump defeated to what end?” answered = “national socialist left”?
    Claim: “it incessantly asked the same question that had been already responded to multiple times”. My response: the only “answers” provided were “How is Trump any different?” and “loaded question”.

    So there’s a quick overview. Please review 862×51’s WARNING TO ALL MOONBATTERY POSTERS: and my subsequent reply on its panic.”

  • Occam’s Stubble

    Oh, I agree that this is necessary. I just don’t think any blue state’s delegation would vote for an amendment that reined in the federal government. Maybe on balancing the budget but not much else.

  • Torcer

    Why Does The Left Always Win?
    The Left is unreasonable. The Right strives for an orderly, polite and morally good society. For that reason, they tend to think that other people are inclined toward being reasonable as well. The Left on the other hand views civilization as its enemy because the Left aspires to replace civilization because it views civilization without Leftism as the antithesis of good. Rightists will try to appeal to Leftists’ better natures, make compromises and keep order, which only strengthens the Left by legitimizing them and giving them a healthier society to parasitize.

    The Left is unrealistic. The Right cares about the consequences of its actions; the Left cares about the ideological appearance and social popularity of its actions, and this concern displaces any cares about consequences in reality. This liberates Leftists from the additional burden of knowing anything about what they are doing. Their one mode of thought is to say something that other people like to hear, and then using the power of the group, to force it to be implemented.

    The Left appeals to monkey dynamics. Leftists ideas are more socially correct than Rightist ideas, because the ideal of the Left is equality and the Right favors hierarchy, and social situations value only universal inclusion so that the members of that social group can feel stable because there is no tension, competition or conflict. This is an illusion but one that humans can no more resist than magpies can turn away from shiny objects.

    The Left recognizes no distinction between war and peace. Rightists will never understand that for the Leftist, ideology is all. It is how they socialize, organize their thinking, justify any self-esteem they have, and find other people. It is their reason for existing.

    Leftists base their self-image on total victory, not decency. Rightists like to think that they are appreciated for their strong, sober, wise and measured moral presence. Leftists have no such illusion. They know that people respect that which they fear, and that which gives them handouts, and they achieve this by installing a struggle toward ultimate victory. This forces everyone in the group into conformity and justifies lavish lifestyles for those sacrificing their time to the war effort.
    http://www.amerika.org/politics/why-does-the-left-always-win/

  • Charles Johnson Blount

    Go guck yourself, loser. Did they withhold your weekly ice cream ration at the super max because you were a bad boy? What did you do, murder someone else because they looked at you the wrong way? Or was it because you tried to escape so you could murder Ted Cruz? Pathetic.

  • TrojanMan

    A fellow Illini. I was born and raised in “downstate” Illinois and lived in Champaign/Urbana for 15 years before escaping in 2014 for Texas. I will never return to Illinois except as a visitor and even then i do want to be there. I understand your pain. Come to Texas, i literally have NO democrat representation. From the school board, local, mayor, state house, state senate, us house, us senate, and governor. Cornyn might be the only exception as he is a major RINO. The weather is nicer. We have NO state income tax. Real estate taxes are not bad. Sales taxes are not bad. Food is not taxed at all, except for like soda and beer. Gas is cheap. Come on down…..

  • TrojanMan

    I think krinkles is back as i see a bunch of “This user is blocked” posts. 🙂

  • TrojanMan

    Hi Krinkles

  • KirklesWorth

    Another swing and a miss…aka wrong.

  • KirklesWorth

    Hyperbole and innuendo – wouldn’t that be something you learned from the “national socialist left”? Wouldn’t working to defeat Trump in order to default to Hillary getting elected be a “lack of moral underpinnings”?

  • Torcer

    Heh!

    As they say ‘Silence is golden’..

  • KirklesWorth

    And they also say ignorance is bliss – or at least being in an anti-Trump echo chamber. Maybe someday you will answer these two simple questions: (1) “Hillary is the antithesis of conservatism and must be defeated. Correct?” and (2) “You are trying to get Trump defeated to what end?”

  • WMD

    Hey there T-man, I graduated Champaign Central and went to U of I. Class 0f ’85!
    I was working a job in Texas long ago and met my wife in Austin. But we moved back to my beloved Colorado. I’m from Colorado but I’ve moved around a lot! Texas is OK, but I missed the rockies.
    I-L-L !!
    I-N-I !!

  • Jester

    This presidential election (aka selection) will be fixed by the Left no matter how any of us vote. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs6w5ihNbtY

  • Jester
  • TrojanMan

    My first apartment was located about a half mile from Central. It sucks picking up and moving but Chicago liberals ruined my state. Ill be damned if they ruin the greatest country on earth in Texas! Illini Hockey was the best

  • Ghost of Grumpy Cat

    Enjoying the circle jerk of, what, maybe four or five toadies remaining on your website who are happy to get on their knees and fellate your pathetic brand of nihilism? It begs the question, what exactly do you plan to do after Trump is sworn in and begins a round up of illegals and Muslims to ship back to their third world hellholes? Here’s and idea…join the Democrats!

  • 762×51

    “normal”, of course, is defined as anyone who agrees with you. Anyone who disagrees with you is therefore, “abnormal” and is to be punished, That is EXACTLY how the Progressives operate, you are one of them, through and through.

    You have amply demonstrated my point and I shall continue to remind the “normal” people here of exactly who and what you are, jerkles the weasel.

  • 762×51

    Yes, I realize that everything on the Internet is being recorded and stored in the Intelligence Community Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative Data Center in Utah. I expect that from this fascist, unconstitutional government. What is different here is that there are now people who are actively out there looking for the dissenters, that is a :yuge” change. Imagine the tsak of sifting everything that is said or written everyday by everyone on Earth. What government has done under the guise of anti-terrorism, is to illegally capture everyone’s private information and communications. Looking for terrorists is like looking for a needle in a haystack so naturally, you would want to start with the biggest hay stack possible, or would you?

    In Nazi Germany, the former Soviet Union, Communist China, all had / have this type of vermin who slither among the population, secretly gathering information on their friends, neighbors, acquaintances, etc. America has never seen that, at least not beyond the “nosy neighbor” who calls the city because of some ordinance violation you have committed.

    Jerkles actions are a direct assault on the free exchange of information and ideas but it is also an assault on our culture. When have you ever had to worry about someone “reporting you” for things you have said? Now, you do and that is an affront to both the Constitution and to civil society in general.

    I have no idea whether jerkles is a paid political operative, a government informant or just a natural born tattletale with a god complex, but it is the enemy of liberty and the Constitution, it has proven that now.

  • 762×51

    Calling out a coward always has null results, except to demonstrate their cowardice.

  • 762×51

    I can’t say whether you have been laying or not, unless you have been to the bath house again. But low, yep, that’s you, through and through.

  • 762×51

    Which is why all I ever offer it is a fight.

  • 762×51

    I am trying, but the coward won’t come out to play.

  • 762×51

    Hey everyone, it’s Smith&Wesson&Barbie, aka Grumpy Cat.

    When are you going to be ready to back that up, “loser”?

  • 762×51

    No, that’s Smith&Wesson, aka Grumpy Cat. That one always uses the “super max” reference.

  • 762×51

    QED.

  • FrozenPatriot

    That’s quite and idea. What are you going to do when he renigs on almost every populist bluster and blather and does nothing to fix any fundamental problem like unconstitutional bureaucracies or the welfare state?

  • 762×51

    You are absolutely right about the uni-party but his cannot be changed at the ballot box, corruption has seen to that. Remember that the politicians first and foremost goal is to stay in power. Right now, they have no skin in the game, THAT is the key.

  • TrojanMan

    Sorry i cant keep your fanboys straight 🙂

  • TrojanMan
  • 762×51

    While I have no objection to the attempt, the reality is you need 34 states to call an Article V Convention of States. Then you need 38 states to ratify the results, meaning any group of 16 or more states can kill it at any time. Presently, there are at least 20 states that are absolutely, positively Progressive strongholds and who would never go along with such a convention.

    How long would it take to turn those states, and their legislatures even purple, much less magenta or red? Ten years? Twenty? More? Had this effort begun in earnest 30 year ago, it might have succeeded, but now there simply is no time left. The enemy has been allowed to grow too strong.

    The alternative, of course, is war, so trying is not without merit, but it is the longest of long shots in history. When Texas eventually secedes, and it will, I will be there to defend it.

  • 762×51

    Don’t forget free stuff.

  • KirklesWorth

    LOL!

  • KirklesWorth

    Let’s review two posts that Dave Blount had to delete. The discussion starts here.

    762×51: Hey jerklesworth, go fuck yourself.

    KirklesWorth: And without a hint of shame or civility, the culprit chimes in.

    762×51: Culprit, LMAO! You want civility in the middle of a war you started? Fat chance, douche bag. I just wish could see how long a prissy little fuck like you lasts when the shooting starts, minutes or seconds? You can walk around taking down information so you can turn others in later. Here’s a tip for you, if you suddenly feel very warm and can’t seem to draw a breath followed by deep, intense pain, you are hit. Unless you take the round in your cranial vault. LMFAO!!This comment was deleted.

    KirklesWorth: Is “culprit” a funny word to you? You get amused so easily…

    You want civility in the middle of a war you started?

    Where is this “KirklesWorth War”? Is it behind the rabbit? Am I in charge?

    You really make yourself laugh a lot on repetitions of violence, suffering and death…

    Psychotic: having or relating to a very serious mental illness that makes you act strangely (i.e. violent hostility, predilection to violence and murder) or believe things that are not true (i.e. “middle of civil war”).

    762×51: I’m so happy you see it that way jerkles, it tells me you are as unprepared as I think you are, thereby guaranteeing your status as a casualty. The world will be a better place on that day. This comment was deleted.

    KirklesWorth: I am honored that you would put me in charge of your fantasy “KirklesWorth War”, but you are delusional. Cheering on the death of your countrymen – how patriotic and humanitarian of you.

  • KirklesWorth

    Let’s examine how you justify murdering me:

    Wrong, tRump is pro abortion (contrary reference), pro amnesty (contrary reference), pro big government, etc. He has supported Progressive agenda causes all his life, that makes him a Progressive. Supporting a Progressive candidate makes you a Progressive. Go f__k yourself.

    Now it’s logical fallacy time!

    1. Trump was previously a progressive
    2. Trump is progressive on some issues
    3. Therefore, Trump is a “progressive”

    Congratulations! You committed your first fallacy of the undistributed middle! Next you compound your error with:

    1. Donald Trump is a “progressive” (lie)
    2. KirklesWorth supports Trump
    3. Therefore, KirklesWorth is a “progressive” (lie)

    Congratulations! You committed your second fallacy of the undistributed middle! Too bad for you Trump is moderately conservative on individual rights, domestic issues, and economic issues. Next you compound your error again with:

    762×51 > ComradeJ: Wrinjkledick is a Progressive which makes him a professional liar.

    1. KirklesWorth is a “progressive” (lie)
    2. (missing step) “progressives” are professional liars (sweeping generalization at best)
    3. Therefore, KirklesWorth is a “professional liar” (lie)

    Congratulations! You committed your third fallacy of the undistributed middle! Now for the coup de grâce:

    1. KirklesWorth is a “progressive” (lie)
    2. “Progressives” must be murdered (lie)
    3. Therefore, KirlesWorth must be murdered (lie)

    Awesome way for you to justify murdering me!

  • 762×51

    Blame us, of course. Progressives never take responsibility.

  • KirklesWorth

    762×51: I have a bullet with your name on it, any time you think you have what it takes to impose your fascist dreams, elitist f__ktard. Go f__k yourself. Comment deleted. http://moonbattery.com/?p=74932#comment-2825799792

  • 762×51

    Yes, you had to run to teacher for protection, didn’t you jerkles? Coward.

    This is at least the third demonstration of your fascist “record keeping today, just on this thread. Thanks for making my point, SS-Rottenführer jerkles.

  • KirklesWorth

    If that’s how you justify your irrational hatred of your so-called “progressives” to murder them, then so be it.

  • 762×51

    See stupid, in a war, you are supposed to fight back, that is what makes it war, not murder. Only Progressives consider war to be murder. Of course, fighting is difficult to do while hiding under your desk, no wonder you expect others to do it for you.

    All in all, you are just mad because I will fight instead of just rolling over an allowing you your fascistic dreams. Here is a clue, there are millions of us.

  • 762×51

    So if the “ban hammer” is to be implemented uniformly across the board, it follows that your re-posting of deleted comments would be justification to ban you. Your re-post does not somehow sanctify them and make them OK, just because you soiled them with your touch.

  • KirklesWorth

    Great! Please do! This stuff is gold!

  • KirklesWorth

    Classic!

  • 762×51

    They gravitate toward the people who offer the most resistance to their fascist ideology, like moths to a flame. They must try to drown out any and all opposition to their ideology.

    Progressives are the closest I can come to hajjis in America, except for the ones the government is importing.

  • 762×51

    LMAO, purple jerkles!

  • Torcer

    Stolen from other people.. I’m sort of surprised I’m not seeing it comment on that article..

    …It probably hits to close to home..

  • Torcer

    My guess is that over time it’s true ideology will become more apparent.

  • KirklesWorth

    What’s unclear about the ideology of defeating Hillary by electing Trump? Oh yes, you can’t cast aspersions on me when it is so blatantly obvious.

  • This sums up why I do not actively and repeatedly criticize those who point out THE FACT that neither of these two should be elected.

    Unfortunately, one of them will, certainly.

    I cannot blame those who refuse to vote for either.

    I don’t know if I will be able to bring myself to vote for Trump, even if it is simply to stop Hillary.

  • Vote Third Party

    Bush’s unpopularity brought us Obama. What do you think Trump’s will do?

  • Occam’s Stubble

    Send the GOP the way of the Whigs, hopefully. Then we can start over.

  • KirklesWorth

    LOL! I guess you conveniently forget that there are exceptions to free speech. For example, the First Amendment does not protect obscenity, child pornography, true threats, fighting words, incitement to imminent lawless action, criminal solicitation or defamation. Duh.

  • KirklesWorth

    Hilarious how you try to spin your fascist desire to murder me and “progressives” into some sort of “progressive oppression”! And to top it off, you think we are at “war” and you think that it somehow justifies indiscriminate killing!

    war: a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.

  • 762×51

    I think it’s more focused on rounding up its enemies, you, me a few others here and who knows how many elsewhere. Getting their control mechanisms in place is always first and foremost with fascists. They get the controls situated round up those who would oppose them and then can steal at their leisure, The Nazis didn’t head straight for the Louvre when the took Paris.

  • 762×51

    You are always very upset about what will happen to Progressives, jerkles. Being a new boy here, you don’t know that MB was founded to report on news about what the enemy Progressives were doing to destroy America and to mock and ridicule you people. We have always hated Progressives. If you don’t like that then this isn’t the place for you.

    Tell everyone again how we all should “have some self control over our irrational hatred of Progressives”. Sounds pretty progressive to me, jerkles.

  • 762×51

    That remark it made about my “irrational hatred of Progressives” is pretty telling. It IS one, which is why it gets so upset over my statements on the war that is coming and how Progressives will fare in that conflict.

  • 762×51

    Your fascism is gold? LMAO, we may yet “drag” you out of the closet, SS-Rottenführer jerkles.

  • KirklesWorth

    Your fascism is gold?

    Looks like you inadvertently mis-punctuated your comment into a loaded question, which is false on its face. It doesn’t look like you speech is being interfered with by me whatsover, your paranoid conspiracy theories notwithstanding.

  • KirklesWorth

    “Upset”? About what? Your non-existent “civil war” and the “progressives” you are eager to kill in it? I am more concerned about your mis-labeling “progressives” and your desire to exterminate them as though they have lost all of their rights.

  • KirklesWorth

    You keep telling me I’m “upset”, when you are the one emotionally compromised and irrational.

    Being a new boy here, you don’t know that MB was founded to report on news about what the enemy Progressives were doing to destroy America and to mock and ridicule you people.

    You mean “being a new boy” like being a guest like you? Sorry my “psychic friend”, you know not what I know. But “mock away” at your mis-identified “progressives”!

    Tell everyone again how we all should “have some self control over our irrational hatred of Progressives”. Sounds pretty progressive to me, jerkles.

    Okay, if you insist:

    762×51 as
    kirklesworthFascistChickenShit (Guest):
    For the thousandth time, imbecile, I’m not interested in any exchange with you outside of a straight up gunfight. There is nothing you have to say that interests me unless it is to accept my offer of single combat which you are too chicken to do. I just enjoy demonstrating your cowardice for all to see. We all know you don’t have what it takes to implement your fascist desires which is why you support an asshole like tRump. Fascists, Progressive, hajji, it makes no difference, are for killing, there is no other use for you.

  • 762×51

    Oh that one is a keeper. So you think I’m imagining “Progressive oppression”, now THAT is very telling. Due tell me more about how you Progressives aren’t trying to oppress and enslave the population of America. That should get a laugh out of everyone here. We have all known it was happening for years before you defiled MB with your presence.

    We ARE at war, stupid, do you actually believe you can implement your fascist ideology with out a war, LOL. America was founded in war, against a fascist tyrant. The man we Americans call “the father of our country” led his troops across an ice filled river to kill the British in their sleep on Christmas. THAT is who we are.

    You may have heard of a saying “to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic”. How do you suppose that is accomplished? By boring the enemy to death with lame charts and graphs? No stupid, we KILL them. Go to https://www.army.mil/values/soldiers.html. The soldiers creed that all recruits are required to learn in basic training is there. In relevant part, it states “I stand ready to deploy, engage and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat”. See, jerkles, I’m not a clerk or a cook like your brother, the taxpayers of America pay me to kill people for them, as it has been for 240 years now. Not that a shivering coward like you has any clue what that means.

    How kind of you to copy and paste a dictionary definition of war for me. That really helps fill in the gaps from what I learned in Iraq and Afghanistan. I wonder how many seconds you would last on the streets of Fallujah? LMFAO!!

  • 762×51

    You mean the paranoid conspiracy theories that are backed up by the open skirmishes that are already occurring on the streets of America? Those conspiracy theories? Idiot.

    The Revolutionary War is “officially” said to have started on July 4, 1776 with the signing of the declaration of Independence. Intelligent people know that there were skirmishes for years before that, most notably the Boston Tea Party in 1773, you may have heard of it, it was in the papers. Or perhaps you have heard of the battles of Lexington and Concord which were fought in April 1775, more than a year before the Declaration of Independence.

    But then denying reality is one of your primary attributes, a requirement of being a professional liar, no doubt. Since you don’t seem to know any history, you WILL be repeating it, as the saying goes.

  • 762×51

    Only to someone who has no reading comprehension skills, or is a professional liar. hey you got a two fer!! LMAO!

  • 762×51

    Let’s see, that post included, none, none, none, none, none, none and none of those classifications. So what’s your point, jerkles? The F bombs I lob at you are absolutely protected speech as determined in Cohen v. California. There is also no “true threat” as the OFFER was made for you to accept or reject at your discretion. Your limited intelligence just can’t grasp that fact.

    The comments were banned as a matter of property rights by the owner of this website. More or less a no shoes, no shirt, no service policy. I have spoken to him directly about it and told I thought it was a bad decision but he stil owns the site, so his yard, his rules.

  • 762×51

    ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!

    Mislabeling Progressives?!? THAT IS THE BEST YET!

    As for no civil war, check the latest from BLM, imbecile. I have had nothing to do with any of it. Sounds like your schizophrenia is back, better take a pill.

  • 762×51

    You have got to check out jerkles latest below where he accuses me of “mislabeling Progressives” just a couple of replies down from this one. He says ” I am more concerned about your mis-labeling “progressives” and your desire to exterminate them as though they have lost all of their rights.”

    In war, you kill the enemy, what can I say?

  • KirklesWorth

    So you think I’m imagining “Progressive oppression”

    Why are you misquoting me? I said “Hilarious how you try to spin your fascist desire to murder me and “progressives” into some sort of “progressive oppression”!”

    Due tell me more about how you Progressives aren’t trying to oppress and enslave the population of America.

    You made the claim – you prove it first.

    We ARE at war, stupid, do you actually believe you can implement your fascist ideology with out a war, LOL.

    That fantasy speaks for itself.

    We ARE at war, stupid,

    We are? Where is the declaration? Who is the authority? Where are the combatants? Where are the battle lines? Where are the casualties?

    You may have heard of a saying “to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic”. How do you suppose that is accomplished? By boring the enemy to death with lame charts and graphs? No stupid, we KILL them.

    Don’t lecture me on supporting the Constitution when you advocate the killing of half the country for the “thoughtcrime” of being progressive. That’s why the military has chains of command so grunts with a chip on their shoulder don’t massacre non-combatants or even worse – their own people.

    Sounds to me like you’ve learned anti-American propaganda from “Iraq and Afghanistan”, since you so easily adopted their ability to justify the killing of millions of Americans.

  • KirklesWorth

    Funny, who declared war on “progressives”? Who authorized you to threaten half the country with murder?

  • KirklesWorth

    Republican non-anti-Trumpers are not “progressives” – contrary to your irrational beliefs. You mislabeled me as “progressive” dozens of times with this ridiculous “deduction”:

    1. Donald Trump is a “progressive” (lie)
    2. KirklesWorth supports Trump
    3. Therefore, KirklesWorth is a “progressive” (lie)

    Fallacy of the undistributed middle.

  • KirklesWorth

    Where is my so-called “fascism”? Lie.

  • KirklesWorth

    You think this is just about “F-bombs”? Hilarious! Boy, for somebody who thinks he is a Constitutional scholar, you sure are lacking in the basics. But once again, I have to show that contrary to what you consider Dave Blount’s “bad decision” to be, it was wise, prudent, and was to protect Moonbattery and other people’s rights from your threats. Let me Google “exceptions to Freedom of Speech” for you:

    Freedom of Speech and Press: Exceptions to the First Amendment (obscenity, child pornography, fighting words and true threats).
    First Amendment Center – Free Speech (obscenity, fighting words, defamation (includes libel, slander), child pornography, perjury, blackmail, incitement to imminent lawless action, true threats, solicitations to commit crimes).
    United States free speech exceptions (incitement, false statements of fact, obscenity, child pornography, Fighting words and offensive speech, speech owned by others).
    Erwin Chemerinsky, CONSTITUTIONAL LAW
    (The Supreme Court has identified some categories of unprotected speech that the government can prohibit and punish. Incitement of illegal activity, fighting words, and obscenity are examples of such categories of unprotected speech.)

  • Torcer

    Well you can’t exactly round people up when they can fight back, thus we see the reason they obsesses over Gun Confiscation*

    MSNBC’s Alex Wagner: Get Rid Of Second Amendment http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/06/msnbc_and_huffington_posts_wagner_get_rid_of_second_amendment.html November 2011

    MSNBC’s Ed Schultz Talks Gun ‘Confiscation’
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/dan-gainor/2012/12/16/msnbc-s-ed-schultz-talks-gun-confiscation December 2012

    Mr. Cuomo, speaking on WGDJ-AM, said: “Confiscation could be an option.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/nyregion/cuomo-says-he-will-outline-gun-measures-next-month.html?_r=1& December 2012

    “Ban, seize semi-auto weapons”State Rep. Dan Muhlbauer, D-Manilla December 2012
    http://carrollspaper.com/Content/Local-News-Archive/Local-News/Article/Muhlbauer-Ban-seize-semi-auto-weapons/1/1/14934

    ‘Turn in your guns’ Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) December 2012,http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/273753-house-dem-calls-on-people-to-turn-in-your-guns

    “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States, for an outright ban, picking up [every gun]… Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in.”Diane Feinstein on Gun Control “Turn ‘Em All In!”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-b45FdDN3s&feature=player_detailpage
    Published on Jan 2013

    “A couple of decades ago, Australia had a mass shooting similar to Columbine or Newtown. And Australia just said, well, that’s it — we’re not seeing that again. And basically imposed very severe, tough gun laws.” Obama June 2014 https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/06/10/remarks-president-qa-david-karp-ceo-tumblr

    You say gun control doesn’t work? Fine. Let’s ban guns altogether. http://fw.to/q3NgAlk LA Times May 2014

    Don’t just get rid of flag, get rid of the gun, too
    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/columnists/fl-jvcol-oped0626-20150625-column.html June 2015

    “We know that other countries, in response to one mass shooting, have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate mass shootings. Friends of ours, allies of ours — Great Britain, Australia, countries like ours. So we know there are ways to prevent it.” Obama October 2015 https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/10/01/statement-president-shootings-umpqua-community-college-roseburg-oregon

    Effective Gun Control – A National Semi-Auto Ban
    Monday Oct 2015 Dailykos http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/5/1427845/-Effective-Gun-Control-A-National-Semi-Auto-Ban

    “In the Australian example, as I recall, that was a buyback program.”…..“I think it would be worth considering doing it on the national level” Hillary Clinton October 2015
    http://www.c-span.org/video/?328774-1/hillary-clinton-town-hall-meeting-keene-new-hampshire&start=2831

    A gun-free societyThe Washington Post October 2015 http://wapo.st/1LrJxz3

    Yes, They Want to Take Your Guns Away The Daily Beast November 2015 http://thebea.st/1HmJOfM

    End the Gun Epidemic in AmericaThe New York Times December 2015 [First Front Page Editorial In 95 Years] http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/end-the-gun-epidemic-in-america/ar-AAg2dhB?

    We don’t need gun control. We need domestic disarmament Huffingtonpost December 2015 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amitai-etzioni/needed-domestic-disarmame_b_8739712.html

    It’s Time to Ban Guns. Yes, All of Them.
    https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them
    December 2015

    Why It’s Time to Repeal the Second Amendment
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-its-time-to-repeal-the-second-amendment-right-bear-arms-20160613?page=2 June 2016

    Matt Damon wants an AUSTRALIAN style gun confiscation in the UShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI4_ooOiRqk
    July 2016

    The loophole in the Mass. assault weapons ban Boston Globe Maura Healey July 2016
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/07/20/the-loophole-mass-assault-weapons-ban/eEvOBklTriWcGznmXqSpYM/story.html

    Clinton Delegate Explains How Democrats Will Ban All Guns
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nlhQafsx3o Published on Jul 2016

    KING: Dallas, Baton Rouge massacres show need for assault rifle ban Shaun King New York Daily News “A ban and complete eradication of assault rifles from the hands of everyday citizens is a reasonable reform.”
    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-dallas-baton-rouge-murders-show-assault-rifle-ban-article-1.2715531 July 2016

    *Given the basic concept of synonyms and avocation by acquiescence one does NOT have to state certain words or phrases in order to be in favour of confiscation.

  • Torcer

    I’ll have to check them out – it never hurts to have more data on the enemy.

  • KirklesWorth

    “Enemy”? Is that any way to talk to a fellow American trying to get Hillary defeated via a Trump election? Interesting…

  • Torcer

    Isn’t it rather interesting that someone who is very reticent about revealing it’s true ideology is gradually moving left.

    Also interesting that it’s utilizes the same leftist tactic of blatant double standards.

  • KirklesWorth

    Wow…I sure am formidable! My “remote-controlled fascism” has shut down your free speech and “started your civil war!” No wonder you are so afraid of me!

  • KirklesWorth

    It’s an a badge of honor that you distinguish me from everybody else by calling me “it”. I don’t have a problem with your article – but why do you care? I wouldn’t have commented now if you wouldn’t have called me out even though you are supposedly blocking me. – which suits me fine. Then I can respond without you running around in circles claiming you answered questions when you didn’t. Ciao!

  • they both suck.
    but only one has ever had anything to do with actual policy that affects me.
    so I will vote for trump.
    first election cycle I can remember where I did not like ANY candidate from any party including libertarian/independent/etc parties.

  • 762×51

    There has been a war against Progressives for more than a century now jerkles. Like the IslamoNazii’s, you only know your ideology, not history, or anything else for that matter.

    Progressive-ism began more than a century ago, when wealthy Americans began sending their children to European universities as few existed in America. They brought back with them a new ideology called Fabian Socialism, actually thinly veiled Communism, wherein the masses were subjugated into collectives, “for their own good”. Organized population(aka controlled), a centrally planned economy and big government necessary to run and control all of it were hallmarks. It also included Eugenics to control the size and composition of the population being ruled over.

    Progressives in America were well on their way by the early 20th century with the racist, fascist Woodrow Wilson slithering around in the White House, segregating the military, and working with Margaret Sanger to eliminate “undesirables” from the gene pool by abortion.

    Other societal controls were implemented as they “progressed” such as Prohibition, a “progressive” Income Tax, confiscation of money over and above the income tax called Social Security, which was “for your own good”, outlawing the ownership of gold, banning ownership and possession of certain firearms, etc., etc., until eventually, there was a backlash against Progressives and their deceitful, disgusting evil ideology. That backlash was so great that it forced Progressives deep underground for decades. They re-emerged disguised as “Liberals”, humorous as Progressive-ism is the opposite of classic liberalism as defined during the Age of Enlightenment. Same tired totalitarian cultural Marxist ideology, different packaging, literally a polished turd.

    Progressives are a societal cancer and what do we do with cancer?

    Do we negotiate with it? No.
    Do we bargain with it? No.
    Do we offer to relocate it somewhere else? No.

    We kill it, by knife (scalpel), gun (radiation), or WMD (chemotherapy), whatever it takes. So it is coming to pass with the Progressive cancer. Far more MB readers agree today that civil war is both imminent and likely, if not inevitable, than in the nearly ten years I have been here talking about it. Whether history calls it Civil War II or the War Against Progressive Aggression, or the War Between the Ideologies, I have no idea. It is, in fact, the age old war between good and evil, and the Progressive need to enslave others is evil. The label is irrelevant, the results, ridding America of Progressive fascists and restoring the Constitution are what is important. Liberty and Progressive-ism, aka slavery, are mutually exclusive concepts, they cannot coexist any more than Islam can coexist with anything else.

    As for “threatening half the country with murder”, war, in defense of personal liberty, is not murder, only a fascist Progressive thinks that it is, Also the number is far less than half of the country, once the shooting starts, fair weather Progressives will melt into the woodwork like the cockroaches they are. As for my authorization, it comes from the Constitution and what formal philosophy calls Natural Law. I won’t go into it because after watching you stumble around a basic tenet of formal Logic, as hilarious as that was, I know there is no way for you to grasp the philosophical principles that are the foundation of Natural Law. Suffice to say that I draw my “authority” to defend myself and others from your Progressive enslavement from Natural Law.

    All of this is far beyond your pitiful education and limited intelligence, it is for others who might read it.

  • 762×51

    ROTFLMFAO!!!!! I nearly suffocated from laughter, jerkles.

    Another spectacular failure in formal Logic.

    While you managed to correctly mimic the syllogistic fallacy, monkey see, monkey do, you failed to grasp the basic purpose of formal logic statements.

    “1. Donald Trump is a “progressive” (lie)”, the use of the desired outcome emotion “lie”, a Progressive trait, in fact, negates the sentence. It “inverts” the meaning as a logical “not”. In Boolean terms, 1 AND 0 = 0, but I cannot imagine trying to walk you through Boolean Algebra, (shudder).

    Rewritten it looks like this:
    1. Donald Trump is not a “progressive” – substituting the “not” for your emotional negation(lie), which is necessary to achieve your desired outcome. Negating, is a logical zero.

    2. KirklesWorth supports Trump notice that here, you did not include the negation as you did with the primary statement.
    Not negating is a logical one.

    3. Therefore, KirklesWorth is a “progressive” (lie) – Once again forcing a negation into the statement to manipulate it into what you want it to be.

    Fallacy of the undistributed middle.

    Boolean terms you have written :
    0 AND 1 = 1 then negated that one to zero to force the balance to zero.

    Since tRump IS a Progressive who has always supported Progressive causes and you do support him, you are therefore a Progressive. You “logic” fails because it does not comport with reality.

    Keep trying jerkles, you may yet gain some intelligence.

  • KirklesWorth

    Odd that you are laughing at your own ignorance.

    762×51: Supporting a Progressive candidate makes you a Progressive. Go f__k yourself.

    Since you seem to be a glutton for punishment, I will attempt to simplify it further so you can understand your use of the fallacy of the undistributed middle exemplified by:

    1. All students carry backpacks.
    2. My grandfather carries a backpack.
    3. Therefore, my grandfather is a student.

    1. All Trump supporters support Trump
    2. Trump is a “progressive”
    3. Therefore, Trump supporters are “progressives”

    If you don’t like being disproved with the fallacy of the undistributed middle, it’s easier to disprove you with the association fallacy exemplified by:

    1. Stalin was evil.
    2. Stalin was an atheist.
    3. Therefore atheists are evil.

    1. Trump is a “progressive”
    2. KirklesWorth supports Trump
    3. Therefore, KirklesWorth “is a progressive”

    Since you are so confident I am a “progressive”, I’m sure you can cite (not guess) my stances on abortion, faith / religion, freedoms, government healthcare, immigration, national defense, taxes, the economy, the size of government, etc.?

    Even the premise that Trump is a “progressive” is a logical fallacy. Tu quoque or the appeal to hypocrisy is an informal logical fallacy that intends to discredit the validity of the opponent’s logical argument by asserting the opponent’s failure to act consistently in accordance with its conclusion(s).

    1. Person [A] makes claim [X]
    2. Person [B] asserts that [A’s] actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim [X].
    3. Therefore [X] is false.

    1. Trump [A] makes claim [X] that he is a republican
    2. 762×51 [B] asserts that Trump’s [A’s] actions in the past were progressive
    3. Therefore [X] (Trump being republican) is false

    Trump is the de facto republican candidate and claims he is a republican – and his past activities are not proof otherwise, therefore he is not a “progressive”.

  • 762×51

    Unfortunately, for you, all students do not carry backpacks. In formal logic, when one statement is false, the entire syllogism is false. You may recall my telling you the Boolean logical AND operation 1 AND 0 = 0.

    Believe what ever you want to believe, proggie progtard, it is what you always do anyway. Watching you flailing away and failing away at formal logic is it’s own reward. LMAO!

  • 762×51

    I don’t know, jerkles, you had it here yesterday. Did you check your locker at the bath house?

  • 762×51

    I’ll lecture you on any subject I choose, jackhole. Unless you would care to try and stop me?

    You Progressives manipulate the Constitution to destroy America then want to hide behind it, you are truly the lowest form of life on Earth. Being Progressive isn’t a thought crime, it’s a crime against humanity, after all, the Nazis were your students.

    Due tell me more about chain of command, it sounds SOOOOO interesting, LMAO. You are a complete waste of skin, jerkles, no wonder people despise you.

  • KirklesWorth

    That’s the second bath house comment you’ve made recently. As I’ve told you before, contrary to your latent homosexuality, I don’t swing that way. You obviously are a bath house expert.

    Anyway, another lie you can’t back up. Thanks for that.

  • 762×51

    Said the coward who has backed down so many times I’ve lost count. Is that how it looks from proggie fantasy world, jerkles?

  • KirklesWorth

    I’ll lecture you on any subject I choose, jackhole. Unless you would care to try and stop me?

    Fine, go ahead and discredit yourself for advocating the killing of half the country for the “thoughtcrime” of being progressive.

    You Progressives…

    Liar.

    …manipulate the Constitution to destroy America then want to hide behind it,

    I certainly don’t. I can’t speak for progressives.

    Progressive isn’t a thought crime, it’s a crime against humanity, after all, the Nazis were your students.

    “your students”? Ridiculous – you are irrational. But funny you should mention “Nazis” – why don’t you call “progressives” “Jews” and complete the analogy?

    Due tell me more about chain of command, it sounds SOOOOO interesting, LMAO. You are a complete waste of skin, jerkles, no wonder people despise you.

    Yeah, since I don’t believe you are “military”, I wouldn’t expect you to understand. And having the anti-Trumpers (especially you) despise me because I think Hillary is the antithesis of conservatism and must be defeated, then it is a badge of honor.

  • 762×51

    Yep, confiscation is one of the many “trigger”points where the shooting starts. I have told MB for years about this and a few are starting to get it. n The Progressives cannot implement their fascist utopia without confiscation so they will HAVE to try it at some point which is why civil war is inevitable.

    Confiscation is just one possibility, they have put so many attack vectors in motion there is no stopping it now even if they wanted to. Economic collapse is also imminent and unavoidable now, a large scale terror attack is unavoidable now, etc, etc. More than a year ago, we caught five Paki’s and an Afghan, all military age males who had just crossed the border into ARIZONA. They must have sneaked across the Southern Central Asia to Mexico bridge to get there because the only other explanation is they were smuggled in by the drug cartel. Have many have actually made through in the last fifteen years? hundreds at least.

    This is going to be far worse than I have thought it would be.

  • KirklesWorth

    Unfortunately, for you, all students do not carry backpacks. In formal logic, when one statement is false, the entire syllogism is false. You may recall my telling you the Boolean logical AND operation 1 AND 0 = 0.

    Classic! If you have a problem, take it up with Wikipedia. You intentionally miss the point.

    Believe what ever you want to believe, proggie progtard, it is what you always do anyway. Watching you flailing away and failing away at formal logic is it’s own reward. LMAO!

    That’s what you usually say when you can’t debate – it’s becoming your trademark. Your following comment is unproven, false, and an association fallacy which makes you a liar:

    762×51: Supporting a Progressive candidate makes you a Progressive. Go f__k yourself.

  • KirklesWorth

    I’ve told you before, I have no intention of “meeting my bullet” that you have for me. You have no integrity and no honor, so I consider your death threats serious:

    762×51: have a bullet with your name on it, any time you think you have what it takes to impose your fascist dreams, elitist f__ktard. Go f__k yourself. This comment has been deleted.

  • Torcer

    I have no doubt that no matter who wins, they will be coming after guns. If it’s Comrade Clinton she will launch a multi pronged attack that will include trying to sue the gun manufacturers into submission, going after those on the ‘terror-watch list’ and using the mental health issue (Just as the USSR went after dissidents) as well as setting things up for Confiscation.

    This is why they are obsessed with Intergalactic Background Checks – that is their holly grail in starting the process that will end in confiscation.

    Please do me a big favour and check out those individual stories – some of them are chilling in their detail and be sure to re-post them where you can.

  • 762×51

    Yep. Progressives love the “mental health” aspect. It serves as one more way to get those they cannot otherwise drag into their “system” to be under their control.

    I’m quite active in the 2A community, as you can imagine. The Brits, Aussies, even the Germans surrendered their guns, Americans, not so much. I spread the word everywhere I can but

    Notice how upset jerkles has been as it finally dawns on it that it isn’t going to get its way without a fight? LOL. In the next year, Americans are going to have to make the choices I have been telling them about for years now. Choices like do they kneel in obedience of fight for their freedom. Time is up, the servile are preparing to choose their next ruler, the rest of us are preparing for war with that ruler, it is inevitable..

  • KirklesWorth

    How am I upset? You are projecting again. You are the one who recently had a pity party:

    762×51: They will not stop on their own, they must be driven out by force. This new policy sets an RoE that lets them run wild while tying the hands of regular posters leaving us defenseless against them. I doubt many of us will remain long to just come here and take their abuse. I don’t mind fighting back, but have no interest in being harangued everyday by those I cannot effectively oppose.

  • Torcer

    Looks like the gun grabbers have come out of their closet:

    Hey sweetie, listen up. Clinton will take your guns. She will femnize you. I will laugh. It's gotta be that way, gunflake #gunsense https://t.co/k0b748Vz3n— Head of Joaquin (@headofjoaquin) September 30, 2016

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