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Feb 21 2012

Obama Cedes US Territory to Russia

Wonderful news: precious resources can now be extracted from a group of oil-rich Alaskan islands without interference from leftist bureaucrats. Unfortunately, this is only because Comrade Obama is ceding the territory to our Russian adversaries. Tea Party favorite Joe Miller, 2010 Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate from Alaska, reports on this outrage:

The Obama administration, despite the nation’s economic woes, effectively killed the job-producing Keystone Pipeline last month. The Arab Spring is turning the oil production of Libya and other Arab nations over to the Muslim Brotherhood. Iraq is distancing itself from the U.S. And everyone recognizes that Iran, whose crude supplies are critical to the European economy, will do anything it can to frustrate America’s strategic interests. In the face of all of this, Obama insists on cutting back U.S. oil potential with outrageous restrictions.

Part of Obama’s apparent war against U.S. energy independence includes a foreign-aid program that directly threatens my state’s sovereign territory. Obama’s State Department is giving away seven strategic, resource-laden Alaskan islands to the Russians. Yes, to the Putin regime in the Kremlin.

The seven endangered islands in the Arctic Ocean and Bering Sea include one the size of Rhode Island and Delaware combined. The Russians are also to get the tens of thousands of square miles of oil-rich seabeds surrounding the islands. The Department of Interior estimates billions of barrels of oil are at stake.

The State Department has undertaken the giveaway in the guise of a maritime boundary agreement between Alaska and Siberia. Astoundingly, our federal government itself drew the line to put these seven Alaskan islands on the Russian side.

The islands in question have been American territory for well over a century. The agreement to give them away was drawn up in secrecy, as is so often the case under Obamunist “transparency.”

Obama’s foreign policy can be summed up in a single word: treason.

On tips from AC and Sam Adams.

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  • Rob Banks

    Let’s see what he does about this. So much for peak oil.

    http://www.chron.com/business/article/U-S-oil-gusher-blows-out-projections-3341919.php

  • lao

    It looks like you put the wrong link in the header.

  • Dr. 9

    If this weren’t a nation of weak, gullible, sheep, we would be demanding the Marxist-in-Chief be impeached for what is clearly an anti-American act. Once again, we see how he has placed his radical leftist ideology above the good of the nation and it’s people, in clear violation of his Constitutional responsibilities.

    IMPEACHMENT NOW!!!

  • Jodie

    More devastation from the great destroyer.

    To further add salt to our wounds, the MSM now has Iran to use as a scapegoat for the high oil prices and as usual they have completely absolved Obama of any blame.

  • Sam Adams

    Lao, try this:
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/obamas-giveaway-oil-rich-islands-to-russia/

    At one time the Senate had some oversight function of treaties, etc. I’m not sure what they are doing now.

  • lao

    Before you get too excited in your eagerness to accuse Obama of treason you might want to bear the following in mind.

    Here’s a map showing the location of the islands.

    And here’s some background to the giveaway.

    Henry Kissinger, as Secretary of State, Ordered the Giveaway in 1977

  • Chris

    And who was he the Sec. of State for at the time????

    Jimmy Carter (AKA Obama Lite)

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, they are American Territory. It does not matter where they are, they are ours.

    And there have been a lot of things proposed before, that does not make them right.

    The Obama Administration is giving away oil-rich American lands like they support oil drilling and exploration in other countries while stopping it here.

    Your support of Obama’s treason is expected and completely within your lack of character.

  • lao

    Sorry chris, Kissinger served as Secretary of State for Nixon and then Ford.

  • Jodie

    Before you get too excited in your eagerness to use Henry Kissinger in your example, remember that he called for Obama to be the leader of the New World Order:

    “Conflicts across the globe and an international respect for Barack Obama have created the perfect setting for establishment of “a New World Order,” according to Henry Kissinger, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former secretary of state under President Nixon.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2009/01/85442/

  • lao

    As usual stanwee, you abandon facts in favor of your own silly opinions. No further commentary regarding your deliberate lies is necessary.

  • lao

    jodie, the article I linked re Kissinger was cited in the article sam linked re Miller’s complaints.

    Notice how blount deliberately ignores the fact that this “giveaway” has been on the books for 35 years and tries to blame it completely on Obama.

    In most circles that would be called a lie.

  • AC

    Would that be the progressive Secretary of State in a progressive administration which devalued the dollar, imposed wage and price controls, rationed gas, created the EPA, and signed the endangered species act?

    Obama ran on the platform that he wasn’t another four more years of Bush, and now your defense for him is that he’s continuing the policies of Richard Nixon?

    The deal makes even less sense now. We no longer need to offer token acts of diplomacy to the USSR and its ballistic missile fleet as part of a grander plan to prevent a nuclear war.

  • lao

    AC, shall I call it to your attention that Reagan chose to leave this “giveaway” alone? So did Bush #1 and #2.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, my post contained nothing but facts. Facts, I might add, they you made no attempt to counter. You did what you always do, went straight for the personal attack.

    You trying to bring up 1977 to justify Obama’s treason is one of the reason you have no credibility on this board.

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  • AC

    Neither Reagan nor the Bushes proposed giving sovereign US soil to the Russians.

  • lao

    Excuse me? The giveaway of the islands was part of the 1977 agreement.

    It placed these islands, plus Copper Island, Sea Lion Rock and Sea Otter Rock in the Bering Sea (which were ceded to the United States in the 1867 treaty), on the Soviet/Russian side of the maritime boundary. Thus effective sovereignty over them plus the tens of thousands of square miles of fishery/exclusive economic zones were surrendered.

    Kissinger asked for nothing in return for the United States.

  • StanInTexas

    So Lao, what you are saying is that this is all the fault of the person that suggested the policy, and not the fault of the person that implemented the policy?

  • Jay B.

    Treason, simply. When the conservative movement will take back this swamp, they would do well to prosecute Obama and his ilk as traitors to the country. Each of his policies have been used to undermine the US. Name ONE beneficial policy, Lao and I’ll shut up. No, signing millions more into welfare is not a positive policy.

  • lao

    blount said: The agreement to give them away was drawn up in secrecy, as is so often the case under Obamunist “transparency.”

    blount figures “Obamunist” influences were employed in drawing up a secret agreement when Obama was 16 years old. Amazing.

  • Jimbo

    Jimmy ‘The Failure’ Carter gave away the Panama Canal. The liberals’ little brown gawd HAD to give something away too. Obama will NOT be outdone when it comes to FAIL.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, I asked you a question @9:57.

    Please answer.

  • Bloodless Coup

    OBAMA’s END GAME REVEALED

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Iz3VjoHXLA

  • lao

    Status of Wrangel and Other Arctic Islands

    The U.S.-USSR Maritime Boundary Agreement was signed in 1990. The negotiations that led to that agreement did not address the status of Wrangel Island, Herald Island, Bennett Island, Jeannette Island, or Henrietta Island, all of which lie off Russia’s Arctic coast, or Mednyy (Copper) Island or rocks off the coast of Mednyy Island in the Bering Sea. None of the islands or rocks above were included in the U.S. purchase of Alaska from Russia in 1867, and they have never been claimed by the United States, although Americans were involved in the discovery and exploration of some of them.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, still waiting for an answer.

  • lao

    2009 Digest of United States Practice in International Law

    See Page 308:

    In the context of inquiries from the general public, the State Department Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs issued a fact sheet on the status of Wrangel and other Arctic islands on September 9, 2009.

    This document repeats statements made in the previous link and includes this paragraph:

    The United States regularly holds discussions with Russia on Bering Sea issues, particularly issues related to fisheries management, but these discussions do not affect the placement of the U.S.-Russia boundary or the jurisdiction over any territory or the sovereignty of any territory. The United States has no intention of reopening discussion of the 1990 Maritime Boundary Agreement.

  • StanInTexas

    Loa, the question is @9:57.

    Your answer, please!

  • whotothewhat

    This will be nothing wait till Obumbal lets China mine our resourses right here in the lower 48, even buy farms and harvest crops right here.

  • IslandLifer

    Treason? Of course! But Congress doesn’t care because they’re a bunch of pussies filled with nothing but hot air. The administration is untouchable don’t you get it? It’s the Chicago mafia.

  • StanInTexas

    IslandLifer, if anyone in this country cared in the least about Treason; then Jane Fonda, John Kerry, and Jim McDerrmot would either be in prison, thrown out of this nation, or executed.

  • StanInTexas

    For those of you playing the Moonbattery Home Game™, Lao has now been trapped by his own logic and will make a desparate attempt to equivocate his way out of his cowardise using one or more of the following tactics: Personal Attacks, Diversion, Additional Impotent Explaination, Running Away, or All of the Above.

  • Sinister66
  • Sinister66

    The Islands already belonged to Russia.

    http://madwriter.livejournal.com/865971.html

  • StanInTexas

    Sinister, would you care to answer my question @9:57?

  • Sinister66

    StanInTexas says:

    Hell ya I think the person that implemented the policy should be held responsible and the policy was implemented in 2000.

  • StanInTexas

    Then what was Obama doing trying to take credit for it? If it all happened in 2000, then why is Obama even bringing it up?

    Sorry, Sinister, you don;t get to have it both ways!

  • lao

    Sinister, I love the title of your link The Tenacity Of Bizarre Nitwittery

    Stand by for more.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, still waiting for an answer to my question @9:57.

  • Sinister66

    There is nothing showing Obama taking credit or bringing up anything. And if you look at my post at 1:45 and actually go to the link you will see who is responsible.

    The whole article above is a rehash from a WND article done 12 years ago.

  • StanInTexas

    Sinister, you still did not answer why this is coming up now under the Obama State Department when it was supposedly a done deal in 2000.

  • lao

    bingo.

  • Sinister66

    StanInTexas says:

    “Sinister, you still did not answer why this is coming up now under the Obama State Department when it was supposedly a done deal in 2000.”

    I dont have too. I linked to articles showing it did happen in 2000.

    “The State Department has undertaken the giveaway in the guise of a maritime boundary agreement between Alaska and Siberia. Astoundingly, our federal government itself drew the line to put these seven Alaskan islands on the Russian side. But as an executive agreement, it could be reversed with the stroke of a pen by President Obama or Secretary Clinton.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/obamas-giveaway-oil-rich-islands-to-russia/

    The only complaint involving Obama is he wont reverse what happened in 2000.

  • lao

    Not to mention that the state department indicated in 2009 that they had “no intention of reopening discussions” on the Maritime Boundary Agreement that was passed in 1990, based on a proposal that was originated in 1977.

    I do enjoy laughing at attempts to spin this otherwise.

  • StanInTexas

    So it is NOT a done deal and the treaty is still under contention, thanks Sinister.

    Yes, I read the update. Doesn’t in any way absolve the Obama Administration from letting this stand.

  • John Lewis

    A traitor, indeed.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, I am STILL waiting on your answer to my question.

  • Sinister66
  • Jock

    So Lao, what you are saying is that this is all the fault of the person that suggested the policy, and not the fault of the person that implemented the policy?
    The policy was enacted two decades ago, the Russians took possession decades ago. Obama’s State Department has done nothing – which is the gist of Millar’s complaint. He’s demanding Obama use his executive power to unilaterally overturn international treaties and agreements

    “But as an executive agreement, it could be reversed with the stroke of a pen by President Obama or Secretary Clinton.”

    The Alaskan Supreme Court declared D. Denardo v. State of Alaska (12/23/94) that the Islands were not part of Alaska.

    To repeat, Obama has done nothing, the State Department has done nothing under Obama. Miller is demanding that Obama renege on a settled agreement with Russia and unilaterally revoke it. It’s a manufactured issue that has nothing to do with Obama.

    But hey, clearly it works for the uninformed

  • StanInTexas

    Jock, I asked Lao a question, since be blamed the entire incident on the people that thought it up in 1977 AND the people that implemented the idea.

    Your post did nothing to answer the question I asked, so you are coridally invited to shut up!

  • Sinister66

    StanInTexas

    “Jock, I asked Lao a question, since be blamed the entire incident on the people that thought it up in 1977 AND the people that implemented the idea.”

    Who else is to blame????

  • StanInTexas

    Is the person that thought up the idea to blame, or the person that implemented the idea?

    Sinister, you have already answered that the person implementing the idea is to blame. I want to know what Lao thinks, as he has blamed both.

    Interesting that everyone wants to answer my question to Loa, except for Loa!

  • lao

    It’s after 4:00 and that’s when stanwee’s mummy comes home and kicks him off the computer.

    The poor flake didn’t realize I had answered him before he asked:

    lao says: February 21, 2012 at 9:25 am
    As usual stanwee, you abandon facts in favor of your own silly opinions. No further commentary regarding your deliberate lies is necessary.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, you answer there only shows your abject cowardice.

    Thank you for proving beyond doubt what an impotent coward and hypocrite you are.

  • lao

    LOL!! Mummy is working overtime I see.

    No matter how many links others provide, no matter what the source, you cling to your silly opinions and you FAIL to back them up with links that support your case.

  • StanInTexas

    Sorry, Lao, but my post @4:08 is the response to ever post you will make from this point forward.

    You are an impotent coward and an abject liar.

    You may go now!

  • lao

    As usual stanwee, you abandon facts in favor of your own silly opinions. No further commentary regarding your deliberate lies is necessary.

  • Stephan the Original

    for adults:
    lao seems incapable of acknowledging that the Obama regime is capable of deciding one way or the other on this and it is appropriate to apportion responsibility for that.

    for children and liberals (redundant I know):
    lao is a waste of time.

  • cyrus

    Obama is giving away oil rich US territory to Putin and his closet communist ex-KGB mafia and Iran regime does the same by giving away 54% of Iran Caspian Sea oil to Russia http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-738637 and a big chunk of Persian Gulf to China http://t.co/kJv0vLay , this is about letting communist-islamist alliance of Russia, China, Venezuela,… and Islamist terrorists dominate global energy supplies and suffocate US economy

  • Sam Adams

    Sad thing is that Obama probably believes he is “getting things done.”

  • lao

    Sad thing is sammy, your name is attached to a thread header that has been demonstrated to be a pack of lies.

  • Bob Roberts

    I see lao is still a wikipidiot… no surprise there.

    But I did wonder if anyone really knew where these islands were.

    How many of you bothered to check before posting here?

    Yes, we may have had some tenuous claim to them, since we apparently did discover them, but I doubt it would have been all that enforceable given what has happened since, much as I would like it to be. To understand why, look up various aspects of laws in any one of several states regarding adverse taking of property, to start.

    What’s got me amused is lao’s pathetic use of “Stanwee”, plus the use of “sock puppets” to support his arguments (which, for once, don’t need them).

    But do you know why this is coming up now? I mean other than the fact Obama’s cutting our throats with his energy policies.

    Why is this an issue now? What has been taking place over the last 5 or so years up in the Arctic Ocean?

  • Bob Roberts

    What lao and the other moonbats who frequent this place, for reasons still not clear, don’t understand is that this is a great example of why several things they are against are necessary. A manned space program, including, one might hope, a plan to put a permanent base on the moon before some other country beats us to it.

    Think, for a moment, why that would be a critical thing to get accomplished. Consider history.

    Mars, not so much, though it might not be a bad idea to at least get there & plant a flag or something.

    Basically one might argue we’ve done that with our rovers, but nothing beats a human actually doing it like we did on the moon.

    But a flag, without a presence, isn’t advisable.

    Think about the tactical and strategic advantages of being on the moon.

    Seriously, think about it.

  • Sam Adams

    lao says:
    February 21, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    “Sad thing is sammy, your name is attached to a thread header that has been demonstrated to be a pack of lies.”

    Have I ever referred to you as anything but Lao? Why refer to me as sammy? Seems like an attempt at a put down, confirming the charge that you seem to favor personal attacks rather than honest discussion.

    As far as the “pack of lies” is concerned…

    “Before you get too excited in your eagerness to accuse Obama of treason you might want to bear the following in mind.

    Here’s a map showing the location of the islands.”

    So if an island is close to another country, then we should just hand over the island? Are you suggesting that if we had just given Hawaii to Japan, that whole Pearl Harbor thing could have been avoided?

    “Notice how blount deliberately ignores the fact that this “giveaway” has been on the books for 35 years and tries to blame it completely on Obama.”

    I’ve got to agree with others here; Nixon particularly, isn’t the shining example of a US president. And, a land give-away isn’t final until it is actually final, which it appears is what Obama has attempted to do. Oil resources on and near those islands may have not bee known or thought possible to develop in 1977; those islands may be far more valuable and exploitable today than 40 years ago.

    Obama’s act also seems to follow his method of acting against the interests of the US, particularly when it comes to energy.

    “Sinister66 says:
    February 21, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    This was all done back in 2000″

    We have unratified treaties that apparently have been implemented without congressional approval. I’m all in favor of impeaching George Bush over this issue, if you think it will do any good.

    But since George has retired, one would expect that our current president would act in America’s favor. Since he apparently has acted, IMHO, against US interests, and in complete secrecy, what would one expect as an appropriate response?

  • lao

    Sam, if you want to talk facts, address the following.

    Look at the title of the thread and blount’s editorializing.

    The islands were never U.S. territory.

    Therefore claiming that U.S. territory was ceded is a lie.

    There has been no documentation to demonstrate the islands are “oil rich” but that’s a red herring in the first place. It doesn’t matter if the islands are solid gold, they were never U.S. territory and the U.S. has no claim on them.

    The “secret agreement” had nothing to do with Obama. It was proposed in 1977.

    U.S.-USSR Maritime Boundary Agreement was ratified by the U.S. senate and signed in 1990 so it has nothing to do with Obama’s foreign policy.

    The state department issued a public statement on the status of the islands in 2009. That is hardly being “secretive”.

    At that time they said the U.S. had no intention of revisiting the agreement signed in 1990. Again, where’s the secrecy?

    So, after promoting a series of outright lies, blount and others accused Obama of treason

    Pardon me for pointing out some facts that should have been taken into consideration before you started jumping to rash judgements.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, still waiting on your answer to my question from yesterday.

    What’s the matter, are you too afraid to answer?

  • lao

    As usual stanwee, you abandon facts in favor of your own silly opinions for which you provide no links.

    No further commentary regarding your deliberate lies or your perpetual whining is necessary.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, I have tried to approach you in a fair manner. I stopped using a variation of your name, asked you a direct and polite question, and I even said PLEASE.

    It is now obvious to myself and everyone here that you are nothing more than a petulant child who does not have the mental or emotional capacity to participate in adult conversations.

    You should now run away (as you often do when confronted) and not come back until you go through puberty or can learn to act well in public.

  • Skip

    Sorry folks,

    I don’t like Obama for a second, but he ain’t giving anything to the Russians that didn’t already belong to them!

    Bennett Island was discovered by American explorer George Washington DeLong in 1881 and named after James Gordon Bennett, Jr., who had financed the expedition. DeLong set out in 1879 aboard the Jeannette, hoping to reach Wrangel Island and to discover open seas in the Arctic Ocean near the North Pole. However, the ship entered an ice pack near Herald Island in September 1879 and became trapped. The vessel was crushed by the ice and sank in June 1881. At that point the party was forced to trek over the ice on foot, discovering Bennett Island during July 1881, and claiming it for the United States. They remained on the island for several days before setting out again for the New Siberian Islands and the mainland of Siberia.[11][12]
    drawing of Bennett Island, discovered north of Siberia by the Jeannette Expedition, July 1881

    In August 1901 Russian ship Zarya sailed on an expedition searching for the legendary Sannikov Land (Zemlya Sannikova) but was soon blocked by floating pack ice. During 1902 the attempts to reach Sannikov Land continued while Zarya was trapped in fast ice. Russian explorer Baron Eduard Toll and three companions vanished forever in November 1902 while travelling away from Bennett Island towards the south on loose ice floes.[13]

    In 1916 the Russian ambassador in London issued an official notice to the effect that the Imperial government considered Bennett, along with other Arctic islands, integral parts of the Russian Empire. This territorial claim was later maintained by the Soviet Union.

    Some U.S. individuals assert American ownership of Bennett Island based on the 1881 landing. A resolution of the Alaska State Senate in 1988 supported this claim. However, the United States government has never claimed Bennett Island, and recognizes it as Russian territory.[14] In 1994, the Alaska State Supreme Court ruled in D. Denardo v. State of Alaska that Bennett Island, along with several islands, is not part of Alaska.[15]

  • Jock

    It’s Obama’s fault because he didn’t invent a time machine

  • Sinister66

    Jock says:
    What!!!!!!
    no time machine.

    IMPEACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sam Adams

    Lao, consider the following from:
    http://www.state.gov/p/eur/rls/fs/128740.htm

    You state:
    “U.S.-USSR Maritime Boundary Agreement was ratified by the U.S. senate and signed in 1990 so it has nothing to do with Obama’s foreign policy.”

    From the state department’s website:
    “The U.S.-USSR Maritime Boundary Agreement was signed in 1990. The negotiations that led to that agreement did not address the status of Wrangel Island, Herald Island, Bennett Island, Jeannette Island, or Henrietta Island, all of which lie off Russia’s Arctic coast, or Mednyy (Copper) Island or rocks off the coast of Mednyy Island in the Bering Sea.”

    So the Maritime boundary agreement never addressed the status of those islands. Note, too, that the agreement has never been ratified by the USSR or Russia; the US and Russia are just acting like the treaty is in full force.

    Of course the state department can take the position that “we never claimed these islands as US territory.” As far as I can tell, the state department has as much interest in these islands as the Obama administration has in developing oil resources in the Gulf of Mexico or ANWR.

    The Obama administration has a history of simply giving things away. For example, when the administration decided to not pursue ballistic missiles in Poland, they received nothing in exchange. How’s that working for us?

    “So, after promoting a series of outright lies, blount and others accused Obama of treason

    Pardon me for pointing out some facts that should have been taken into consideration before you started jumping to rash judgements.”

    The Obama administration is the most lawless administration that I am aware of. They have used funds contrary to law, they have ignored bankruptcy law, favoring unions over secured credit holders, they have not defended various laws (like the Defense of Marriage Act, and giving out wavers so that states don’t need to meet NCLB requirements), campaign contributors have directly benefitted from Green Energy Grants, guns have been exported to Mexico contrary to Mexican law which resulted in the death of a US Border Patrol agent, as well as hundreds of dead Mexicans. He has allowed self-described communists to serve in his White House, has made recess appointments when the Senate was not in recess. He has ignored the court-ordered lifting of the drilling moritoriam in the Gulf of Mexico, and has filed suit against Arizona and other states for their attempts to secure the border, while not actually securing the border. He has started wars without even notifying congress.

    The list goes on and on.

    Should Obama get a pass for making no attempt to assert a US claim to these islands? Maybe. On the list of prosecutable offenses, it is aways down the list. But it certainly seems consistent with Obama’s “America-last” policies.

  • Jock

    Sam, I wonder why you didn’t quote the whole paragraph?

    The U.S.-USSR Maritime Boundary Agreement was signed in 1990. The negotiations that led to that agreement did not address the status of Wrangel Island, Herald Island, Bennett Island, Jeannette Island, or Henrietta Island, all of which lie off Russia’s Arctic coast, or Mednyy (Copper) Island or rocks off the coast of Mednyy Island in the Bering Sea. None of the islands or rocks above were included in the U.S. purchase of Alaska from Russia in 1867, and they have never been claimed by the United States, although Americans were involved in the discovery and exploration of some of them.
    Oh maybe that’s why.
    Should Obama get a pass for making no attempt to assert a US claim to these islands? Maybe. As presumably every president since 1867. The Alaska purchase was a pretty good deal at 2 cents an acre, but clearly you think it wasn’t good enough and the US should go to war with Russia to renegotiate.
    For example, when the administration decided to not pursue ballistic missiles in Poland, they received nothing in exchange. How’s that working for us? In that it avoided the equivalent of a showdown like the Cuban Missile Crisis, not bad. Besides what does Moonbattery care about spending billions defending the Commie Europeans?

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