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Mar 04 2012

Confirmed: Obama’s Birth Certificate Is a Forgery

As we’ve long suspected, the birth certificate Barack Hussein Obama finally coughed up after spending a fortune in legal fees to keep it from the public is a fake. Even a CBS affiliate is reporting it:

The question isn’t whether the document is fake or even where the Manchurian Moonbat was born, but rather why he would keep the issue alive with a second-rate forgery. It could be sheer incompetence, or it could be part of a strategy of portraying his opponents as flaky conspiracy theorists. The latter would inoculate him from being accused of more serious conspiracies, like deliberately destroying our currency with wildly excessive spending combined with “quantitative easing.” Either way, forgery is a crime.

On tips from Alxandro and Bloodless Coup.

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  • Swamp Music

    Heather Moore is so hot!

  • IslandLifer

    Nothing will be done.

  • RICH

    “For Pete’s sake, we have a lot bigger problems than this.”

    Like free or low-cost contraception? Is that more important than crimes committed by our illegitimate commander-in-chief?

  • SeaFoamGreen

    For once I agree with Island: this will be (a) dismissed, (b) ridiculed and (c) deemed irrelevant even if proven true.

    One thing though. The headline here on MB says “confirmed”. Not quite. To me, “confirmed” is when they can take it to court.

    (I did get an early copy of the document off the White House website, and it was indeed an Adobe Illustrator file. I guess they figured no one would bother to open it in Illustrator. Within 10 seconds it was an obvious fake, NOT a scan of a real document. Real scans don’t have the text boxes filled in with text and background layers. Real documents from 1961 don’t use Adobe-generated computer fonts. It was sloppy work.)

  • GM Car Of The Future

    This clown’s entire life is a fraud.

    However, the carpetbagger’s job is almost complete.
    His persona has put America a one-way Road To Ruin.

    When his handlers have squeezed all possible mileage out of him, he will be toast…down in flames, like a Chevy Volt.

  • Sinister66

    Have to agree with Island. Still going to e interesting to see how it all plays out.

  • Seamus

    They purposely made it easy to take apart, because they knew nothing would be done even when it was found to be a forgery. They’ve probably been laughing their asses off since they released it.

  • http://www.birtherreport.com ANOTHER 6 LETTER WORD FOR FELONY…BARACK

    Where are Barry’s TRUTH TEAMS? How did this get to air? http://www.AttackWatch.net

  • Bloodless Coup

    The reason that nothing has been done about this on going insult to our intelligence is that the American people have become far too complacent.

    We should be raising holy hell!

    We should be calling our Congressman!

    We should be e-mailing the FBI to demand a Federal Investigation!

    We should be marching on the Nation’s Capital with pitch forks and flaming torches to demand that they do something to hold Obama accountable.

    There are no victims, there are only volunteers.

    YOU teach our elected officials how YOU are willing to be treated by what YOU are willing to put up with.

    Clearly, having someone in the White House who has a forged identity is a completely unacceptable breach of National Security!

  • Xman

    The mere fact that few agencies are reporting this( when they report if Arpio decides to fart) shows you just how far this administrations claws reach….this is a felony that is being lobbied by a LAW ENFORCMENT department who used EXPERT FORENSIC INVESTIGATORS to see if the file uploaded by the Whitehouse was legitimate and they found it to be a FRAUD. Yet…hardly no news picked this up…

    This way bigger than watergate, watergate was a simple breaking and entering that stole nothing of value and we Still see movies and op-eds about this till today…

    We may have passed the rubicon here and it’s a bit frightening.

  • born in 76

    Maybe the official announcement will come straight from the usurpers mouth from his college years? Wasn’t Breitbart in-touch with the Sharif right before his death? Maybe they have the Kenyan admitting in casual conservation that’s his not a citizen.

    Even so I agree, nothing will be done.

  • Jimbo

    He’s a counterfeit president. Everyone except ignorant liberals has known that all along.

    Pssst – hey, silly liberals – his unicorn is a fake, too!

    A moron elected by morons.

  • SeaFoamGreen

    …and Rush just lost his 7th sponsor because he called a spade a spade (or in this case, a ho a ho).

    It is JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR ANYONE BUT A LEFTIST TO SPEAK HARSHLY. (Although this was a totally rookie move by Limbaugh. HOW could he not know what they’d do with this?)

    The idea that a college whore could bring down THE conservative voice is almost unthinkable…

    HOWEVER

    …kind of makes you stop and think: if a slut can destroy Limbaugh, maybe a birth certificate can destroy Obama. Maybe if this is proven to be a fake, the outcry will topple that son of a bitch, REGARDLESS of his boot-lickers in the media.

    Weirder things have happened!

  • Swamp Music

    I pretty much agree that nothing will come of this. Except maybe the random mysterious death.

    Sheriff Joe needs to watch his back.

  • http://Marylou'sAmerica Marylou

    Took them three days to decide to report it, but better late than never. CBS is definitely mainstream media. The ship is starting to sink and the rats are starting to jump!

  • Jimbo

    SM – I would think Joe is probably fairly adept at looking in his rear-view mirror (all things considered). Of course, I would have thought Breitbart would have been… cautious.

  • Beef

    it could be part of a strategy of portraying his opponents as flaky conspiracy theorists. The latter would inoculate him from being accused of more serious conspiracies

    I have always thought the birth certificate issue was a trap of this sort. A billion dollar campaign could certainly come up with an adequate forgery if needed.

    The left is playing the game at a much higher level – it’s easy when you own the media. Obama’s attack on the Catholic Church is now viewed by the bulk of the country as the Republicans trying to ban birth control. While the Republican candidates are having to talk about Rush Limbaugh’s apology all weekend, Obama is out there taking credit for increased domestic oil production (increases that have taken place due to Bush era drilling permits and technological innovation) that has happened despite his administration doing everything they can to limit domestic oil production.

    Of course Obama wants this campaign to be about anything but his abysmal record on the economy, jobs, energy, and foreign policy. The Republicans are being played like a fiddle.

  • Path

    I vote “sheer incomptence” like everything else he’s done.

  • TrickleUpPolitics
  • CAEI

    Barack Obama is an Illegal alien.

  • Mika

    As we all may recall, this evidence has been reported before, but the HNIC released in and once traction began to build, SURPRISE! He killed Osama Bin Laden (at least to Joe SixPack, who had no clue OBL likely died 8 years prior) and the Media moved on to the next shiny object.
    “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” – Winston Churchill

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    It could be sheer incompetence, or it could be part of a strategy of portraying his opponents as flaky conspiracy theorists.
    I agree.
    CBS ????
    Plus I believe they are hoping they can sucker the right into this trap door, while the Won is busy counting his 2012 electoral votes.
    Anyone else smell a rat here ?

  • http://www.birtherreport.com ANOTHER 6 LETTER WORD FOR FELONY…BARACK

    Another 7 letter word for Forgery… HUSSEIN!
    Another 5 letter word for Fraud… OBAMA!
    http://www.ObamaReleaseYourRecords.blogspot.com/2011/09/failed-e-verify-letter-to-barack-obama.html

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  • http://waznmentobe.com/ Buffoon

    I smell many rats…

  • chuck in st paul

    They are REPORTING it, not supporting it – a BIG diference. I also smell a trap here. I think Sheriff Joe is correct, but somehow or other the ‘real’ certificate will show up proving,

    1) what the public got IS a fraud, but
    2) there IS a real certificate (probably also a fraud created and back dated in Hawaii by the usual suspects).

  • RKae

    Damn it! Arpaio should’ve kept clam until he had the person of interest under wraps! Why is he showing his hand?

  • NorthernX

    So, your president releases a document as authentic even though it has manipulation-artifacts and temporal anomalies which indicate that it is likely fraudulent, and no one is to be held accountable?!

    You know, Obama isn’t your only problem. Indifference and complacency are contributing a great deal to your country’s downfall as well.

    If you ask me, you suckers deserve it.

  • Jester

    First Breitbart — Arpaio is next. Mark my words.

  • Xman

    This nonsense of Obama using this to make people look stupid is a larger leap of conspiracy than believing the BC is fake….Obama would look like a fool for spending so much time and money just to make his opponents crazy, not to mention, he would be exposed even more so for being a manipulative bastard…

    It’s not a winning strategy even if it was 100% true.

  • whosebone

    would it be possible to close caption these videos for us hearing and cheap speaker people? :)

  • whosebone

    hearing impaired……..

  • whosebone

    seafoam, you watch,,,,rush will have the last laugh

  • whosebone

    now that i re read your post seafoam, the bc HAS been proven to be a fake

  • AlphaMail

    This has to be one of the best threads ever!

    IslandLifer says FOUR words, and gets BOTH SeaFoamGreen AND Sinister66 to AGREE…..am I imagining things?

    GM Car Of The Future says SEVEN words and explains a sitting POTUS.

    Bloodless Coup uses the magic word – Complacency. America is spoiled shitless. The old saying, “I don’t talk poilitics or religion,” is now coming back to haunt the lazy-ass people who didn’t want to get involved because it took them out of their comfort zone. By the way, did you see American Idol last night? Storage Wars is on tonight. Andrew who?

    Jimbo uses FOUR words to rewrite GM’s SEVEN.

    Beef nails it! We’re correct on the Catholic issue but we’re wrong. We’re correct on the Ho needing her K-Y to be paid for, but we’re wrong. Keystone is gone, gulf closed, no drilling, no refining, gas prices more than doubled and rising = Obama right, and we’re wrong. Who in the f**k is in charge of public relations, lie-busting, and media-squashing for the conservatives? Ans: Not Boehner, maybe West.

    TUP – ever the vigilant prosecutor – presents his case…..Slam dunk!…..but is the jury sleeping?

    And Ghost with another ghostly accurate query, “Anyone smell a rat here?” A FIVE letter euphemism for, “Nothing will be done. This clown’s entire life is a fraud. And we should be raising holy hell.”

  • StrangernFiction

    We are living in a banana republic.

  • Restless

    Well, it’s great that a CBS affiliate in Phoenix is covering this. However, I’ll be very surprised if this gains any traction in the national media. They will do whatever they can to protect this guy.

  • whosebone

    apparently so restless, and so far it seems effective

  • http://www.birtherreport.com ANOTHER 6 LETTER WORD FOR FELONY…BARACK

    The Jig is UP! (That’s NOT racist)

  • chuck in st paul

    StrangernFiction says:
    March 4, 2012 at 10:19 pm We are living in a banana republic.
    ——————-
    So… what? We’ve run out of government cheese and now it’s bananas?

  • Rob Banks
  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    Restless
    Its CBS.
    Media Matters directs traffic in the hallways there
    Why an Arizona affiliate ?
    Because they can cover this story without a wholly lib audience to eat them alive over it.
    The general public (gossip rag readers notwithstanding) will not be interested in the alleged authenticity of any birth certificate.
    However, they WILL be interested in gas prices, and by extension Keystone, Gulf drilling, tar sands, Chu’s words on gas prices.
    They will be interested in why the unemployment numbers from the White House are suddenly dropping, yet they still cannot find work.
    Solyndra ?
    Pigford ?
    I believe the Won is tossing the Catholic vote because he has already lost it
    He is instead pulling a page from Huckabee’s old playbook in attacking one religion to gain others.
    Psst, those Catholics sure are extreme, aren’t they ?
    That crazy stuff they believe about birth control……………..oh, and (whispering)abortion

    You birthers can slam me all you want, but I still believe the path of least resistance to toss this Marxist menace is not through some liberal judge, or impeachment proceedings at this point and time, rather it leads to November 2

  • http://moonbattery czuch

    Arpaio for prez. I realize thats a step down but the left already cant stand him and the illegals reaaaly cant stand him. THATS BECAUSE HE’S DOIN IT RIGHT.
    2012/2013

  • Bloodless Coup

    Unfortunantly the Main Stream Media still is controlling the narrative (mostly through the sin of omission) that “birthers” are nut jobs and that the evidence is BS.

    As an ex-cult member who was once the victim of brainwashing, I can tell you that no amount of evidence can get a true believer to question their False Messiah.

    You more you confront these sychophants with the truth about their “Guru’s” short comings, the more they withdraw into their shells or lash out and become defensive.

    But if you are persistant in exposing them to this sort of information, eventually you can created something in them which is called cognitive dissonance.

    This dissonance will haunt them (at least on a subconscious level) until eventually their progamming starts to come unravelled.

    As deprogrammers of a sort, it is our job to keep presenting the Obots (who are similiar to the moonies) with the truth about their false prophet’s false identity and his contrived message of Hope and Change.

  • Fiberal

    …why he would keep the issue alive with a second-rate forgery. It could be sheer incompetence, or it could be part of a strategy of portraying his opponents as flaky conspiracy theorists.

    I have always thought the birth certificate issue was a trap of this sort.

    I believe they are hoping they can sucker the right into this trap door

    Amazing. Just amazing.

    Do you guys honestly think that our Genius-in-Chief consciously allowed his vermin to put together a poorly forged, computer-generated BC to replace a genuine one in order to provide a distraction from the “real” issues?

    Have you guys actually taken the time to look at the posse evidence?

    Are you trying to tell me that the BO administration had the idea at the beginning of this whole BC controversy, to build a trap that would generate a conspiracy amongst conservative racist constitutionalists, who could never focus on more than one issue at a time, that would on the face of it, distract from all of BO’s future plans?

    Even if the WH had decided that they would be so invulnerable in the future, that when the BC was found to be a forgery, there could never be prosecution under existing federal laws, they would be taking a risk of incredible proportions. They would have had to decide, in collusion with health officials in Hawaii, to commit a federal crime that could amount to a Constitutional crisis, impeachment, expulsion and prison for any number of people involved.

    At the very least the WH would risk the possibility of actually being vetted in 2012.

    I can see it all now.

    The WH would gamble in the early days, that the entire MSM and all the democrats in congress would cover for them, bc their Messiah would never fall. They would reveal a forgery which would fan the flames. And only the lowest of the low would dare question BOMessiah.

    And BO’s WH anticipated all of this, just so they could provide what may or may not become a minor distraction from BO’s future anticipated misdeeds?

    And to do this, they go to the trouble of forging a selective service registration card just to be sure?

    And then maaa..ybe they decided to go just a step further to make sure that BO has an easily-discoverable false SS number that won’t pass E-Verify .. yeah…that would match up with all BO’s sealed records, including different passports, so that the conspi-racists would question his history throughout his administration.

    To cover up all BO’s lies, the WH provides the forged BC that will appear to be a lie. But only to the chattering class, because it really isn’t. a lie. Therefore all the other BO lies appear to be so small as to be true! Yeah that’s it…. Brilliant!

    .

    So what’s the end game here, guys?

    The WH having put out all this BC misinformation and now with a number of states investigating or just now trying to vet BO for 2012 eligibility, —BO jumps out at the last minute with the actual 1961 paper copy of his BC, doctor signed and witnessed at a Hawaiian hospital, screaming

    “—-SEE? YOU SEE??!! DO–YOU——SEEEE!!???!!”

    .

    And then here we are. The unwashed republicans. The Tea Party. Racists one and all. With our hands in our pockets and a sheepish grin, talking slowly amongst ourselves:

    “Wow. Were we ever all such, dups, suckers and idiots! BO fooled us all! Boy, we were just inbred dumb. “Welp…wuttyuh know…Guess that dere guy is real. Well, ha…. back to the guns and religion. Yup…”

    .

    So let me get this straight: all this time, when we should have been chasing the really important issues like contraception and OWS#, and having ever more GOP primary debates, BO got us all distracted by an imbedded eligibility issue set to go off just before the 2012 elections.

    .
    Sure guys.

    You really saw through that one.

  • http://thenewamericanspirit.com/bill_of_rights_history/ Bill of Rights

    Sorry, my dad could have my that birth certificate with his Photoshop . . . this doesn’t surprise me a bit!

  • Beef

    @Fiberal: I think that there always was some problem with the birth certificate. Whether is was due to where he was born or who is daddy was – I don’t know. If there had been no issue, we would have seen it in 2008.

    That being said, I am sure that with the resources at their disposal they could have created a forgery that could pass any test. The genius of stringing this out for so long is to discredit all ‘conspiracy’ theorists in the run up to the 2012 election. The idea is if the birth certificate issue is shown to be a nutcase theory, all the other skeletons in his closet, all the other enemy actions against the interests of the US will be dimissed by the bulk of the electorate as more crazy talk.

    These people are at the forefront of academic Alinsky-ism.

    The document that was released last year could have been released in the format it was just to keep this going.

    This is all wild speculation, but wild speculation is needed when you try to explain how a man with no history was elected President, and why this doesn’t seem to matter to most people.

    I don’t know what the Obama administration is up to. I know this is an insane situation that three years after he was elected, we still don’t know the first thing about our president. I also know that talking about anything else but the Presdidents’ failures and the disaster he is leading us to works to his advantage. I support Arpaio’s efforts in pushing for the truth, but if we are going to spend this camapaign on the birth certificate and contraception instead of jobs, the economy, and the debt, Obama will be re-elected.

  • TED

    President Obama and Arizona Governor Jan Brewer avoided each other at the White House governors meeting. She’s furious about illegal aliens. They’re trampling and littering ranches in Arizona on their way back to Mexico to get away from the U.S. economy.

  • Fiberal

    Beef,

    There clearly is something wrong with the BC. The fact that there is no paper copy has been validated by Abercrombie, now governor of Hawaii who pledged to show it to the public and has failed to do so, and now by Arpaio’s posse investigation.

    Moreover, there is no logical reason to float a computer-generated version of it, if in fact the original existed. The BO administration are not so capable; they can only cover-up.

    The genius of stringing this out for so long is to discredit all ‘conspiracy’ theorists in the run up to the 2012 election.

    This is not genius; this is opportunism. The administration is not “doing” anything except feeding to BO’s MSM a script to discredit any criticism or questioning of BO’s citizenship.

    Moreover, a number of states have gotten into this mix simply bc there is an impt question here. And bc BO has not been properly vetted and bc there is ostensibly, no “vetting” process in place, this makes the whole issue around the BC, a Constitutional issue.

    And it should be so, BO or no BO.

    The mistake conservatives are making is in placing the election of BO above the issue of Constitutionality by disparaging the whole case around BO’s BC.

    If BO is beat in 2012 it won’t be be of the BC issue. If he wins, it won’t be bc of the BC issue. We fall into the liberal propaganda trap if we believe so.

    BO can win or lose without any constitutional issue being raised (unfortunately).

    However, eligibility is an issue that will not go away and should supercede considerations of BO’s feelings, racism or even the 2012 election. This is bc while BO may do damage to the economy, we can recover under a Constitutional Republic. If however, BO damages the Constitution as is being done now, then the damage may be irreparable. And then all laws are subject to the liberal whims of a living document or to no Constitution at all for all practical purposes. Or the result will be anarchy, with no laws governing a soveriegn nation except those that are made up to replace the Constitution. Thus the stakes are much, much higher than BO.

    Further, with or without the investigation, the question still remains, what is the criteria for a candidate’s eligibility to be on a state ballot? Right now, the eligibility requirement is defined by default as “the BO threshold”: i.e., to have lived in the U.S. for X number of years, have no discernable history and to merely claim you are a U.S. citizen. ——and to disparage your detractors.

    Is the BC issue a distraction? Hell no. That’s a liberal talking point.

    We are more “distracted” by any number of BO shenanigans. We are also “distracted” by the contraception, OWS#, Nascar, and the primaries with our girls running for president.

    The republic is designed to deal with multiple issues. There is no way that an investigation into BO’s BC, Fast&Furious, Solyndra or any number of issues should be held out as “distractions”.

    We deal with our problems, and our enemies, if we are to be a free society. We run from them if we are to be a liberal totalitarianism.

    if we are going to spend this camapaign on the birth certificate and contraception instead of jobs, the economy, and the debt, Obama will be re-elected.

    No one is doing that. Where do you see any evidence of that? Bill O’Reilly? C’mon. The liberals are telling you that we are doing that.

    Besides, this would not be a citizen’s issue at any rate. The American citizen could give a fluke.

    The investigation into BO’s eligibility can and should continue as the GOP candidate focuses on the economy and the debt. Those are the issues that directly affect the citizen; not the BC which is an indirect issue. Besides, there is no way Romney is going to pin his campaign on the BC issue.

    But Constitutional issues, unless they come up for an amendment, should be the legal domain of the concerned who are determined to revive the Constitution and to never let another ineligible, unvetted BO take the WH.

    Moreover, conservatives determined to defeat BO in 2012 should not stand in the way of this investigation by throwing out ridiculous accusations of conspiracies designed to “trap” the “gullible” against their own party.

    Liberals do enough of that stuff without conservatives doing it to themselves.

    I don’t know what the Obama administration is up to.

    Of course you don’t and neither does anyone else. That is bc the BO administration is doing what liberals always do: play it day-by-day.

    They will take whatever criminal, immoral, unethical, and convoluted path it takes to grab and hold onto power. That’s what liberalism is all about.

    Conservatives should recognize that and not pick and choose the laws they allow liberals to break. Even if means being called a “birther” or a racist or a Tea Bagger.

    We owe as much to the Constitution, the truth, the country, and ourselves as free men.

    And to fallen soldiers like Breitbart, who courageously put themselves out on the front lines.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    The WH would gamble in the early days, that the entire MSM and all the democrats in congress would cover for them, bc their Messiah would never fall.
    When was the MSM NOT in their corner.
    —-
    And then maaa..ybe they decided to go just a step further to make sure that BO has an easily-discoverable false SS number that won’t pass E-Verify ..
    Fib

    Someone, somewhere in the WH had to understand that number would be checked at some point if they put it out there.
    ——-
    The WH having put out all this BC misinformation and now with a number of states investigating or just now trying to vet BO for 2012 eligibility, —BO jumps out at the last minute with the actual 1961 paper copy of his BC, doctor signed and witnessed at a Hawaiian hospital, screaming

    Not necessarily a real one.
    Another forgery, just days before the election with just enough time to clobber his opposition, but not enough for the birthers crack team to debunk until AFTER Nov. 2 will suffice
    ——
    But if you are persistant in exposing them to this sort of information, eventually you can created something in them which is called cognitive dissonance.
    Bloodless coup

    I stand by what I said;
    The general public (gossip rag readers notwithstanding) will not be interested in the alleged authenticity of any birth certificate.
    This “cognitive dissonance” will likely be in the form of another vote for the Won under the hope that he has somehow “learned something” from what they mistakenly believe are “errors” in policy.
    This will be aided by a right suffering from it’s own “cognitive dissonance” in believing general voters actually are interested only in a (real or fake)birth certificate and nothing else

  • Fiberal

    Ghost,

    The WH is playing this game as they go along and taking all the advantages of it that they can.

    The WH can see that once again that for now, it holds the cards. Because as usual the American public is disinterested and the GOP is ridiculing the relatively small number of individuals interested in the BC issue.

    But Arpaio has put some cracks in the case as well as in the MSM, (CBS reported, so there goes your first point) as have the states that have put the eligibility issue up for consideration for the 2012 election.

    It is inconceivable that the WH would put out forged documentation in a gambit that they could create “cognitive dissonance” in the public.

    Cognitive dissonance among the right generated by forged documents. Right. Are you familiar with Occam’s razor? Once again, you doing what everyone has done all along for BO – attributing without evidence.

    No. In fact, it is more likely that the WH has put out forged documents both as a matter of course (the selective service doc) and as an act of desperation to cover for their boy (the computer-generated Long Form). What other choice did they have?

    The WH most likely recognizes that they are in trouble and are doing what all criminals do…they are denying by ridiculing. And now you are saying that the WH will double down by releasing yet another forged BC?

    Sure. They might be that stupid. But then again, they might just run a coup and get it all over with.

    As I said, a republic is designed to deal with multiple issues.

    But here’s some gratuitous advice: Before you start characterizing this issue as one belonging to “gossip rag” readers, you might want to consider both the posse evidence and the Constitutional implications around eligibility.

    Otherwise, even while you’re highlighting parts of “TRT Serfdom”, you might find yourself falling into the liberal narrative anyway.

  • Veronica

    We should picket and demand jail time.

  • FrankW

    Here is the big problem, regardless of the birth certificate being fake Bammy will remain on the ballot. It will simply take too long to pursue the case. Once the case has been pursued if he has won it will simply be a case of “so what if the certificate is false, that does not prove he was behind it or does that prove he is not a natural born citizen”. It is impossible to unring a bell. Even if all birth certificate centric allegations are proven true, what then? How do we undo the damage already done? Most effective thing to do is prove the certificate while ensuring bammy don’t get reelected.
    Here is my paranoid rant thought though, what if bammy being pres is used as precedence to overturn the Constitution in such a way as to render invalid the natural born citizen requirement?

  • Beef

    @ Fiberal: Yes to all that – but don’t you think when it comes down to it, that they can produce whatever documentation is needed?

    The issue this investigation uncovered was the evidence of different cut and paste layers. Would it not have been a simple step to print the document and then scan the print, thus removing all traces of manipulation? That this basic step wasn’t taken to me just screams that it is a set up.

    And yes, this wasn’t planned from the start and is “opportunistic”, but it has worked pretty well so far. They can count on the MSM to repeat their story and to not dig into this. That should be enough to the 70% of people who do not bother to pay attention.

    We are fighting the shark in the ocean. I’d rather get him on the beach and gut him.

  • mike

    Obama is so amazing that he managed to become president while not even being a citizen. He and his famiy have perpetrated a mastermind of deceit upon the American people. But I can see that he can’t get anything by you conservatives. You’re not going to fall for it. Pat yourselves on the back. The jig is up. We on the other side have known all along. We’ve all been in on it.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    Before you start characterizing this issue as one belonging to “gossip rag” readers,
    Fib
    It matters not at all what I believe
    The general voter has no interest.
    The way I figure it, your average voter will better understand his hard earned cash being thrown to the cronies at Solyndra.
    November is fast approaching.
    We have no time to play “name that birth certificate”
    —-
    Otherwise, even while you’re highlighting parts of “TRT Serfdom”, you might find yourself falling into the liberal narrative anyway.
    By concentrating on the ISSUES
    C’mon Fib
    You want to start teaching civics ?
    Go to the schools and challenge the left.
    They completely own the classroom now
    http://www.annenbergclassroom.org/page/a-guide-to-the-united-states-constitution

  • BuffaloChips

    I think the thing that everyone overlooks isn’t that he’s a citizen, but he is not a natural born citizen. This type of reporting is “dumbing down” our public sector. People are starting to equate “citizen” with natural born citizen.

  • Fiberal

    Frank W,

    Even if all birth certificate centric allegations are proven true, what then? How do we undo the damage already done?

    We don’t. We just lay down and whimper.

    No. Actually it has not gone beyond the issue of Constitutionality. This is an opportunity to provide for an interpretation of the Constitution to disallow in more definitive terms, foreigners from assuming the office of the presidency. The next muslim president is going to impose sharia, round up the jews and convert the currency to camel snot.

    The big difference now however, is that Arpaio’s evidence opens up a criminal investigation into the commission of federal crimes.

    While this won’t stop BO from entering the 2012 election – and probably winning it (gives him street cred) –federal crimes can still be pursued.

    .

    Beef,

    don’t you think when it comes down to it, that they can produce whatever documentation is needed?

    Yes. They have and they will. But forgeries are not perfect and can be unraveled.

    Would it not have been a simple step to print the document and then scan the print, thus removing all traces of manipulation?

    And print it on what? 2008 paper? Where would a scan have got them? They forged his Selective Service document and there were flaws everywhere. They learned from Dan Rather’s attempt to defend a paper forgery. There would still have been flaws and it still begs the question: where is the original and why can’t we see it?

    That this basic step wasn’t taken to me just screams that it is a set up.

    Go back and re-read my posts. A conspiracy on the part of the BO administration to produce “cognitive dissonance” by releasing forged documents that can be discovered to forgeries is absurd on the face of it.

    What you have to ask is: are you fine with BO and his liberals destroying the Constitution? Are you happy with a criminal in the WH?

    .

    mike says:

    Obama is so amazing that he managed to become president while not even being a citizen. He and his famiy have perpetrated a mastermind of deceit upon the American people. But I can see that he can’t get anything by you conservatives. You’re not going to fall for it. Pat yourselves on the back.

    This is the snark you guys are all afraid of. But liberals are not after the truth. All they want is more of BO’s feces on their plate for another 4 years. They can go to one of their gay heroes and get fluked for all I care.

    .
    Ghost,

    November is fast approaching.
    We have no time to play “name that birth certificate

    When did this become a race? I do not…let me say it again for you: I do not ( I do not ) not think that this is a way to defeat BO in 2012. I have been posting on this subject since BO slithered out from under Pelosi’s non-vetting skirts for the election and I have never once said that this is the magic issue to dispose BO, either in the present term, or in 2012.

    At the very most, the charges may keep him off the ballot in AZ, but I doubt it.

    Don’t keep mis-characterizing the issue– leave that to liberals. Understand the issue.

    And no, its not the only issue. Of course not. This is a Constitutional issue and an important one, but certainly not the only one.

    It is also not a proximate issue- it is an ultimate issue. Conservatives need to learn the distinction.

    Yes, it has been elevated to a criminal investigation. But that probably will not name BO. The Arpaio evidence has the potential to unseat BO, but that will be a bonus way on down the road.

    Can we fix the schools? How about the price of spaghetti? Anything else you want to throw in?

    Fixing the Constitution would be a good first step to fixing a lot of other things.

  • Fiberal

    BTW, Arpaio’s investigation also showed that only the records for the period between August 1-7, 1961 were gone from the records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

    All other time periods remained intact.

    These are records used for documenting the identities of individuals entering the U.S. on international flights from foreign countries.

    .

    I’ll remind you of the birthdate on BO’s forged long-form BC: August 4, 1961.

  • Jodie

    mike says:
    March 5, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    “But I can see that he can’t get anything by you conservatives.”

    mike thinks the joke’s on us. Hee hee hee. I got news for him/her:

    2 Thessalonians 2:9-11
    New International Version (NIV)

    “9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie.”

  • Fiberal

    Oh hey, thanks a lot Jodie.

    That should really help out here.

    (I see this thread is heading for the archives at break-neck speed – probably just as well at this point).

  • Jodie

    Fiberal,

    Aren’t you the guy who thinks Obama is just a bumbling idiot? Like he’s not TRYING to destroy us?

    Okay, okay…

  • Fiberal

    Yes. I do think he’s a bumbling idiot. AND that he’s trying to destroy the U.S.

    What’s that got to do with the subject?

  • Fiberal

    I mean, I’m trying to debate these guys to show them & their like-minds the error of their ways, the thread is dissolving faster than sugar in water and now you’re here with the usual sermon.

    Great.

    .
    I guess its just you and me.

    Got anything?

  • Jodie

    Fiberal,

    Sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt your flow. I just can’t say “no” when the Holy Spirit moves me though.

    I’ve always been with you on the phony birth certificate issue. So please, carry on!

  • Fiberal

    Right.

    Back to the flow.

    Got it.

    The Fiberal Ultra Conservative Kenyan Impeachment Team thanks you.

  • http://www.ianrandom.com Ian Random

    Supposedly anyone born to a U.S. citizen is automatically a citizen, so this is irrelevant.

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