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Jan 09 2018

Global Warming’s Failure to Make the Seas Rise Explained

Now we know why the seas have not risen up to drown us as foretold by the high priests of global warming. The weight of the extra water from melting glaciers is making the seabed sink. Stop laughing, it’s true; I read it in Newsweek:

So much extra water is being added to the world’s oceans from melting glaciers that the ocean floor is sinking underneath the increasing weight. This ocean floor deformation also means we have miscalculated just how much ocean levels are rising, and the problem could be far worse than previously believed.

If liberals can believe that the current extreme cold weather is the result of global warming, they should have no problem believing that melting glaciers are making the ocean floor sink. The more unlikely their beliefs, the more self-righteous pride they take in holding them anyway, so they are highly motivated. They also get the added satisfaction of condescendingly sneering that if you don’t agree with them, you have rejected science.

On tips from J and Stormfax.



  • Area man

    Ohhhh, now it all makes sense!
    So then the sea levels are not rising, so thete is no problem! Global warming is solved!

  • Tchhht!!!

    Crikey, the water levels will compress the seabed so much that earth will become a black hole.

  • MAS

    “The sky is falling, the sky is falling!”
    Send more money to global government and surrender more of your liberty or we’re all done for…

  • OldSailor

    ‘Newsweek’ is as much a scientific journal as ‘Vanity Fair’ is. I’m not going to say “you can’t make this shi … stuff up” because someone obviously has.

  • Bully

    Nah, the globe will compress into a flat, two sided disk. Michael Mann will have a fine time distorting his fake hockey stick to explain that and The Algore will somehow make another million $$$.

  • Saxon Warrior

    So let me see…. The total mass of H2O in a drinking glass of water with an ice cube in it is the same even if the ice cube melts, or so I thought.

    But according to liberal logic, if the ice cube melts then the glass of water gets heavier because the mass of water has now increased, even though it hasn’t!
    Ok, now I get it!

    Libtards are truly ‘magical’ people.

  • Henry

    If the sea floor around the US is sinking, won’t it eventually flood China?

    LOL

  • Kevin R.

    But the weight of all that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is pushing down on the continents so it all evens out.

  • Saxon Warrior

    Yes, not only that – but because the seas are deeper, all the piers that are found on all the beaches around the world are sinking, the Marianas trench in the Pacific is even deeper than its own previous record-breaking depth; big ships that previously couldn’t sail in seas that were too shallow for their draft will soon be able to sail in them; many boys that are moored to the sea-bed will now be submerged because their tethers won’t be long enough for them to reach the surface; some ships will require longer anchor cables; and many beach resorts will lose some of their beach space because a deeper sea will encroach more of them during high tide. All these would be the effects of a sinking sea floor and thus a deeper ocean.
    Yet funnily enough not one libtard has spotted such phenomena.

  • Eddie_Valiant

    That is called The Archimedes Principle – not the liberal idea, the total mass concept.

    I guess it’s just too complex for libidiots to grasp.
    https://physics.weber.edu/carroll/archimedes/images/buoyancy.gif

  • DM

    “For every action there is an opposite by equal reaction is regarded as the third of Newton’s laws of motion. This means that in every interaction there is actually a pair of forces acting on the two objects that are equal but work in opposite directions.”
    Does this mean that as the oceans/seas bottoms sink there are mountains/land rising on the opposite side of the earth? That would explain the global warming connection to the Volcano In Papua New Guinea Erupting for the first time In history.

  • THOUGHTCRIMINAL2084

    It won’t be long before Al Goreists begin claiming that Anthropogenic Climate Change is now causing a rift in space-time causing the extinction of dinosaurs as well.

  • Occam’s Stubble

    Hey, it worked with WWI, the Great Depression, and WWII. Why won’t the rubes get on board this time?

  • Bbstackr

    And the situation will be even worse when Guam tips over…

  • Otis Donkey

    Gee, i wonder how Mike Moore and his fracking in the ocean is going to work into this. Water dispacement, indeed.

  • Actually, they just defeated their own argument by admitting the truth.

    Oh, it WOULD be true that if the world was net losing landed ice and snow that would indeed add to global sea levels. And it would be true, if the world was warming at some unusual rate, that this too would add to global sea levels through thermal expansion.

    In fact I’m going to do a separate (and possibly long and boring) post on some of the primary factors that lead to sea level changes.

    But before I do, let me point out that it turns out that claims that sea levels are rising dramatically due to the loss of landed snow and ice (as opposed to the loss of floating snow or ice, which does not change sea levels since they are already displacing a volume of water exactly equal to the volume they create by melting, according to Archimedes (and anyone else who discovered this but didn’t get credit) are lies.

    NASA has reported that Antarctica is actually gaining snow and ice at dramatic rates, enough so that global losses of landed snow and ice are more than compensated and in fact this creates a problem since it actually turns the effect of snow and ice on sea level into a negative number and we have to account for that as well, but cannot, not yet.

    During 2003 to 2008, the mass gain of the Antarctic ice sheet from snow accumulation exceeded the mass loss from ice discharge by 49 Gt/yr (2.5% of input), as derived from ICESat laser measurements of elevation change. The net gain (86 Gt/yr) over the West Antarctic (WA) and East Antarctic ice sheets (WA and EA) is essentially unchanged from revised results for 1992 to 2001 from ERS radar altimetry.

    Mass Gains of the Antarctic Ice Sheet Exceed Losses – NASA

    https://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20120013495

  • Lincoln Annie

    So if the ocean floors are sinking, what is the mass of said floor doing?

    Is it – in a fungible sort of way – pushing up daisies somewhere else? Are the Alps and the Rockies and downtown Sydney suddenly higher? Or is the earth’s core getting denser due to being squashed from all directions? Will it hit critical mass and kill us all? IS THIS WHAT HAPPENED TO ATLANTIS? Tune in tomorrow for the next exciting installment of “When Loonybiscuits Think!” Now to our sponsor…

  • Tom

    The whole “global warming” hysteria is immensely amusing to those of us who remember the “global cooling” hysteria in the 70s.

  • BPatMann

    Whew! So New York won’t be under water after all!

  • Jester

    The. Ocean. Floor. Is. Sinking.

    Wow. Wow. My mind is now officially blown.

    I guess it’ll take that awhile to sink in with me.

  • Jester
  • That’s nothing – just wait until Calfornia… tumbles into the sea.

    https://youtu.be/Sq8OU-7JDFA?t=214

    I believe the lyric is at the beginning of verse 3 @ 3:33 in the video after the 2nd lead.

    The URL I’ve posted should about take you there.

    And of course, off the same album, the classic… Bodhisattva.

  • OK I might wind up doing this in multiple posts, since the topic is complex and I want to try to make each part of it easy to read & understand.

    First, an overview… and I will decide which of these to cover in more detail later, perhaps.

    There are multiple things that cause sea levels and coastlines to change.

    EROSION – can both add and subtract to the amount of land at the interface between land and water. A river delta is a place where usually interior erosion winds up creating new land. Deltas such as the Mississippi can also be lost due to human action or to major storms, or just normal, natural changes as well.

    ISOSTATIC ADJUSTMENT – the changes in continents as ice, snow and even water are added or subtracted. Note how both of these sources give conflicting definitions of the term – bother are correct – both the ocean basins and the land are “adjusting” due to the loss of the snow and ice that was present during the last glaciation:

    https://www.reference.com/science/isostatic-adjustment-63b0bf09120d503e

    https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/glacial-adjustment.html

    PRECIPITIATION – AND IT’S EVENTUAL RETURN TO THE OCEAN – whether precipitation falls as snow, ice or water, it at least temporarily is taken away from the ocean and added to the mass of a continent. This eventually returns to the ocean, usually, but not always.

    http://www.enn.com/top_stories/article/45077

    CHANGE IN OCEAN TEMPERATURE (connected with normal, natural global warming) – this is called “thermal expansion/contraction”. Liquids in general, expand on heating. However water is an exception to this general behavior: Below 4 °C it contracts on heating. For higher temperature it shows the normal positive thermal expansion but this expansion is not linear – it’s rate changes with temperature.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8d013d12092e7c9b00dc81fae79417c1a33870a048d84cf511e27265e79556ca.png

    VOLCANISM – Eruptions of magma, some of it perhaps displaced by increased volume, and thus weight, of water due to snow and ice melting, can create new land at midocean ridges, at hot spots or at island arcs. Some of this new land can be unstable and may fall into the sea, such as has been predicted at both the Canary Islands and at Hawaii, based on studies of features that indicate past similar events.

    TECTONIC CHANGES – this is part of what the article is talking about – for more water in the ocean basin very likely does cause some “sagging” due to the fact our Earth is not a solid, but a semi-solid. So to some extent there would be a displacement of magma and the question was asked – where does it go? Well some of it could migrate to the nearest volcanic feature where it would burst out – say at a midocean ridge or a hot spot such as that which created the Hawaiian Islands. Or it may just cause a bulge somewhere. The Earth is deforming in different ways all the time.

    Another type of tectonic change would be a subduction zone, where as stress builds up you would see deformation of the fault then when a mega-thrust earthquake occurs you would see release of this strain with accompanying elevation changes was well.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJIdMvL9KcA

    But the article is ridiculous where it says:

    This ocean floor deformation also means we have miscalculated just how much ocean levels are rising, and the problem could be far worse than previously believed.

    No, this does not mean we have miscalculated the rate at which sea levels are rising. Because this is one aspect of sea level change that, in conjunction with others, creates the measured sea level result. It does not invalidate our measurements of the actual parameters as opposed to the geoid – the estimate of the shape that the surface of the oceans would take under the influence of Earth’s gravity and rotation alone, in the absence of other influences such as winds and tides, which is constantly changing anyway due to the influences I listed above.

  • Franklyfrank

    I was thinking the same thing; if the ocean beds are sinking all over the world, wouldn’t they eventually push against each other and either implode, or create underwater mountains that would be shifting, causing tsunamis, etc? This thought doesn’t occur to the dopes at Newsweek? That the least of it is “sinking” ocean floors?
    So stupid. The only thing I would correct in your post is there you wrote: ” When Looney biscuits think” to “When Looneybiscuits ATTEMPT to think”
    😉

  • RKae

    Great! So now Pelucidar, the civilization in the center of the Earth, is endangered!

    http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/3/3b/SVGPLLCDRX1973.jpg

  • Artfuldgr

    nah, the guys i work with have little knowledge of real world principals, so i guess what happens is the worlds poles move farther apart and everything in between bulges a bit more cause we are too big not to be roundish…

  • DoghouseRiley9

    Dang.

  • Richard Daniels

    Still enjoy his writing.

  • SLCain

    Of course, the real reason the seas stopped rising was Obama’s election in 2008. He even said so. So, give the man another Nobel Prize.

    Community Organizers! Is there nothing they can’t do?

  • Callawyn

    This may well take the cake for the dumbest claim ever by a warmist.

  • BiffWellington

    I’m still afraid of the hole in the ozone…

  • Leonard Jones

    Eureka, I’ve got it!

    That said, this idiotic theory is the perfect unprovable assertion
    In order to prove why Venice is not underwater, they claim
    it is due to a phenomonen that cannot be measured or proven.
    In other words, “It is happening, but you cannot see it!”

    That is as far as this theory needs to go to brainwash the
    public. My grade school science classes taught me the
    the principal outlined in your graphic. We also learned
    about the water cycle and the physical properties of
    water. Sadly, people who are not even being taught
    science in school now make up a substantial portion
    of our popluation.

    This story was not aimed at people like us, it was aimed
    at the people whose only knowledge of science came
    from watching Bill Nye the Actor Guy and Al Gore.

  • Eddie_Valiant

    Indeed, I believe it was in elementary school I first learned about Archimedes’ theory, which is why I came to understand how liberalism is truly a mental malfunction.

  • Saxon Warrior

    Basic logic, basic physics, basic math, reading etc. are no longer taught to elementary kids.
    Why do they need the three ‘r’s when all they need to be taught is that there are lots of different genders and that you can pick which one you want to be?

  • Eddie_Valiant

    Couldn’t agree more Saxon. I know I learn best through repetition and I’m sure others do as well. Introduce new stuff after the old material clings to their brains like a cheap suit!

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