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Mar 17 2012

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  • Bob Roberts

    OBAMANOMICS: Debt exploding under Obama (blame CONGRESS, the DEMOCRATS in Congress in particular, though Obama is encouraging it) while Obama “slums” (his own word for it) with “the 1%” and worries about… THE GREAT WEATHER!

    Great – the country is going bankrupt and Obama worries that the weather is so good.

    WTF?

    Meanwhile, in Obamaville, 16 shot overnight in Chi-town.

    And Obama keeps dragging his daughters into political issues. Normally I say “hands off the President’s family members” but, in this case, Obama, by dragging them into political issues where they don’t belong, makes it clear they’re fair game.

  • http://www.brycchancarey.com/abolition/wilberforce.htm Wilberforce
  • IslandLifer

    Scumbags!

  • http://www.grannyjanandjihadkitty.com/ Granny Jan

    When I see BHO with his squirt gun, I’m reminded of what a squirt he is:
    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/416981_3220144017507_1083615932_3131243_338057530_n.jpg

  • IslandLifer
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  • IslandLifer
  • Bloodless Coup

    Breitbart Editor Throws Birthers Under Bus. Despite Claims He Wants To Vet Obama Ben Shapiro Refuses To Report Or Investigate Suspected Forged Documents.

    http://www.exposeobama.com/2012/03/17/video-breitbart-editor-we-wont-vent-obamas-selective-service-card/

  • IslandLifer
  • AC
  • IslandLifer

    Good one Granny Jan! I hope he slipped and fell.

  • AC
  • AC
  • AC
  • http://screwypuppy.blogspot.com Screwy Puppy

    We all know Breitbart fought to expose the MSM and the hypocrisy of Hollywood liberals. Well, they are combining forces.

    The Associated Press touts movies stars are a vehicle of political verification.

  • http://www.grannyjanandjihadkitty.com/ Granny Jan

    @Bloodless Coup Has Breitbart ever done a story on Jack Cashill’s revelations on Dreams From My Father? Not to my knowledge. I guess that’s not of interest to them either…Bill Ayers co-author his book.

    Personally, I think that outing (vetting) BHO as a commie, pinko from his younger days is a waste of time. As if we didn’t already know. Like most conservatives, they also stay away from his sexuality issues. They could do a story on where are the so-called girlfriends. Almost no conservative media has the guts to go there. Too much self-serving hype over at that place, imho.

  • AC

    What’s the point of further proving he’s a hardcore Marxist when half the population either can’t even recognize the small doses of socialism or simply doesn’t care?

    We could have crystal clear video of him bowing down in Lenin’s Mausoleum and still it would not change the minds of hundreds of millions of sheeple.

    They’re either still in love with their rockstar or too hooked on the government cheese to say no to the head pusher in charge.

  • AC

    Report: Cartel Infiltration of Mexican Government Widespread

    When the government either collapses or descends into the farcical political wing of the drug cartels, even more undocumented Democrats will come across our borders, strain our resources, and stuff our ballot boxes.

    What’s coming down the pike will make the Mariel boatlift look like a misdemeanor pothead walking away from a litter cleanup crew.

    We have a two party political system. Mexico is progressing rapidly towards a two cartel political system.

  • Beef
  • AC

    What sort of stomach-churning moonbattery can we expect from the liberal presidential candidate from Massachusetts? The last candidate from that state didn’t do too well.

  • http://www.grannyjanandjihadkitty.com/ Granny Jan

    On March 16th, President Obama signed a new Executive Order which expands upon a prior order issued in 1950 for Disaster Preparedness, and gives the office of the President complete control over all the resources in the United States in times of war or emergency.

    Continue reading on Examiner.com President Obama signs Executive Order allowing for control over all US resources – National Finance Examiner | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/finance-examiner-in-national/president-obama-signs-executive-order-allowing-for-control-over-all-us-resources#ixzz1pRP7Mdq1

  • Tim from TK

    ANother peace loving tolerant lefty:

    “Cox’s threats read, in part: “I plan to kill Arpaio first…He will be buried 10 feet under and his whole family will be murdered along with him.”

    Cox’s postings indicated that he is an avid President Obama supporter…”

    http://ktar.com/6/1514559/Man-pleads-guilty-to-Arpaio-threats

    “Another lone nut, hyperbolic agent provocateur making joking comments…

    /lao”

  • Bob Roberts

    I’m getting tired of deranged “journalists” who don’t know the difference between someone who snaps and does something stupid and someone who deliberately is recruited, trained and sent out to do terrorist acts.

    While bother are arguably mad by the time they do what it is they wind up doing, one is carefully trained to be that way while the other simply is pushed to it by various things without that as the intended end result.

  • Bob Roberts

    Man what a finger fumble… replace “bother” with “both” in the above post please. D’OH!

  • Bob Roberts

    Updated the way I meant it to read on the last open thread:

    Bob Roberts says: March 16, 2012 at 8:45 pm
    The road we’ve traveled (mostly in golf carts, with squirt guns – they’re not man enough for paintball).

  • http://screwypuppy.blogspot.com Screwy Puppy

    Texas

    9 months from now I could move there. Run for governor. Secede from the union. Secure the border. Print our own currency. Promote success.

    Should I?

  • IslandLifer

    Screwy, you would have my vote if I lived there. I’d like to see more blue collar people run for office. I’m tired of empty suits playing our our citizens like a damn card game. Hell, I think anyone here on Moonbattery would serve the public far greater than those in office now. Minus lao no doubt. He can be the poster child of what is no longer acceptable in society. We can pull citizenship and export just as fast as those cockroaches come across the border. In fact, there will be rewards for hunting and trapping them. Ok, I’ll stop there but full of great ideas.

  • IslandLifer

    @Tim from TK
    I used to reside in AZ and had the misfortune of camping in Uncle Joe’s tents. I’ve always respected the man. I’ve never heard or seen so many death threats on a sheriff as this man has gotten. All the inmates would bitch and moan about the food and the chain gang but everything was very reasonable and I’ve always been one to believe in “you do the crime you do the time”. Joe stands tall and tells his critics that if he was doing such horrible things why do the voters keep him in office. He has cleaned up Maricopa County and I only wish there were more lawmen out there like him. My hats off to Sheriff Joe.

  • Smorfia48

    Here’s an unexpected shocker. Women activists in Palestine face rampant sexual harrasment from the oppressed Palestinians they think they’re in solidarity with:

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/israeli-leftist-activists-we-are-being-sexually-harassed-in-the-west-bank-1.419167?localLinksEnabled=false

    Even more shockingly, victims of sexual assault are finding their fellow activists “are belittling the significance of the harassments, all in the name of “the opposition to the occupation.” ”

    And the surprises just keep coming: absorbing leftist dogma leaves you completely unprepared to deal with the real world: “The assailant met, and still meets, all the right criteria: post-colonialist, post-Zionist, anti-capitalist, etc. And most relevantly, he considers himself a feminist…I couldn’t wrap my mind around it, because I couldn’t understand how someone who spoke with me using the language of opposition to oppression could breach my walls”

  • Bloodless Coup

    Oba-Mao Makes His Move

    Signs Executive Order The Gives Him Control Over All Vital Resources.

    Here is a summary of how I read this executive order.

    This executive order gives the Manichurian President Barack Obama the authority to seize control of and prioritize ‘the general distribution of virtually all goods and (applicable) services in the civilian market’ under the pre-text of insuring our National Defence.

    Specifically, this executive order allows Obama to seize control over our food supply, our water supply, our health resources, all applicable commerce, social services, and all defense contracts and all military resources.

    In addition, it grants Oba-Mao the authority to hire, train and activate a National Defense Reserve Force aka a bunch of Brown Shirts to help implement and enforce these directives.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

  • AC
  • Fiberal

    AC says:
    March 17, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    What’s the point of further proving he’s a hardcore Marxist when half the population either can’t even recognize the small doses of socialism or simply doesn’t care?

    Small? We’ve gulped down a toilet bowel of socialism brought on by Bush and have since been given a tsunami enema of it by BO.

    BO is a Marxist like Fluke is a slut. No argument for the evident. So I agree; why push the case further?

    BO’s ties to Alinsky, Bell, Rashid Khalidi, Ayers, Wright, Frank Marshall Davis are out in the open anyway, even if the average American has no idea who these people were.

    Even so, BO has all but succeeded with his putsch to destroy the country through the systematic destruction of the economy.

    The deficit this year will be $93B larger than estimated just two months ago, hitting $1.2T for 2012.

    CBO estimates are 23% higher than GDP projected for government spending over the next decade. The Heritage Foundation est that public debt will never fall below a deficit of $833B and would reach $1.45T in 2022 which brings deficit “spending” to 93% of GDP.

    Obviously, Q-”easing” is corroding the currency as countries jump off.

    Needless to say as we worry about Rush, sluts and gays buggering each other on a wedding dais, BO is achieving his goal of U.S. insolvency —assisted by an ignorant, indifferent nation infatuated with his every lie and nosepick.

    Nothing can be done about it at this point. At one time, if the vote had been restricted to taxpayers we might have avoided BO and his mindless liberals.

    And you are only half right about Ronpaul – yes, we need Ronpaul’s domestic policies, but it is abundantly clear that Ronpaul’s international policies are patently ridiculous.

    So don’t start with me, AC.
    .

    Bono made this handy observation:

    An American looks at a mansion on a hill and says, “someday that will be me”. An Irishman looks at a mansion on a hill and says, “someday, I’ll get that bastard.”

    BO may be a marxist, muslim, affirmative action president, but he’s also Irish. And his Irishness infected the economically-illiterate like HIV at an interior design convention.

  • lao

    Obama Raises a Pint

    Aside from the Guinness run, Obama and his family marked the Irish holiday by dying the water in the South Lawn fountain green.

    Obama’s reelection campaign also got into the holiday mood Saturday, offering a special price on green t-shirts proclaiming: ‘I (shamrock) O’Bama.

  • Jim

    Obama makes first expansion in marshal law in over 50 years…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HKDGdoi4NA

  • AC

    Small? We’ve gulped down a toilet bowel of socialism brought on by Bush and have since been given a tsunami enema of it by BO.

    “Small doses of socialism” is a deliberate reference to Khrushchev’s assessment of how communism will come to America; not by revolution, but by incremental action by statist politicians.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 7:40 am
    ————-
    Wonderful. You’ll let us know if you find anything in the past, or see him do anything in the future, that’s geared towards helping the country and it’s people instead of just turning the Presidency into a running gag I presume?

    Thanks.

  • lao

    Khrushchev acknowledged capitalism had won when he said wanted to visit Disneyland.

  • lao
  • AC

    I can see Disney from my house. Does that mean I win?

  • lao

    No, you don’t win, but by conservative standards it does mean you have credible experience in the family entertainment business.

  • AC

    Arkansas to name airport after the Clintons

    The airport is in Little Rock, not Mena.

  • lao

    SAN DIEGO TEA PARTY LEADER ARRESTED FOR KIDNAPPING, RAPE

    bobby, San Diego is your home town. Are you on a first-name basis with this guy?

  • lao’s mangina

    Green beer! Pay Attention to meeee!

    I have nothing to contribute, so I’ll post something about O’bama (makes me all tingly) drinking green beer!

    PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEE! Green beer!!

  • lao

    Do try to pay attention, sock puppet, he drank a Guinness.

  • Fiberal

    Lao-Z,

    I would appreciate it if you didn’t use my brilliant insights and analyses to kick off your trivial cut-and-paste items.

  • Fiberal

    AC,

    You really passed over this gem,

    “[BO's].. Irishness infected the economically-illiterate like HIV at an interior design convention.”

    to cherry-pick out “small doses of socialism”?

    Priorities Sir, priorities.

  • AC

    That’s because I was in agreement with everything except your dismissal of the dire need for Crazy Uncle Ron.

    I wanted to clear up any misunderstanding of my words which might lead a reader to believe Obama is only a little bit socialist. We know where his true beliefs lie.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 8:17 am
    ———–
    Excellent – making my point for me. From his link:

    showing considerably more class and good humor – Reagan observed parallels between bloated blowhard [ultra-liberal spendaholic Thomas] O’Neill and the 1980′s Pac-Man video game, both being ‘a round thing that gobbles up money’.

    ——————
    The article goes on to point out Reagan actually had a heritage that stretched back to Irish Celts – Obama lacks this, no?

    In any case, there’s the difference between your usual leftist sites, full of half-truths and outright lies and a proper “right wing” site – full of positive messages and facts.

    So it turns out you DO have access to the truth – you just rarely share it.

    Interesting.

  • Bob Roberts

    Doing a little looking, it is claimed that, on the Dunham side of the Obama family tree, if you go back about 4 generations, you get to the Kearney clan who are alleged to be of Irish origin after all if you go back about 4 or so more generations.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 8:38 am
    ———-
    While the incident happened in San Diego, your link states the guy is from the City of Lemon Grove which is a small community in San Diego COUNTY that is not part of the CITY OF SAN DIEGO – it’s basically a “suburb”, you might say.

    Never been to a Tea Party meeting of any kind. Don’t know the guy, likely never met him, though I meet a lot of people that I never really get to know due to the things I do.

    I am familiar with both Linda Vista Road and Fiesta Island – they’re not far from La Jolla, which, though many here have convinced themselves is it’s own city, is actually just a community of the City of San Diego.

    I have a brother that lives in Lemon Grove – he might know him perhaps, though this guy is older (50) according to your link.

  • Bob Roberts

    Bob Roberts says: March 18, 2012 at 8:05 am
    ————-
    Still waiting…

  • Bob Roberts

    Reagan’s heritage went back to Ireland fairly quickly via multiple paths.

    Future President Ronald Reagan was born on February 6, 1911, in the small Illinois town of Tampico to Jack and Nelle Reagan. Ronald Reagan’s family tree can be traced back to County Tipperary, Ireland, where Michael O’Regan, Ronald’s great-grandfather, toiled as a tenant farmer early in life before moving to London in 1852. This is where Michael O’Regan met and married Catherine Mulcahey, an Irish refugee, and they moved to Illinois to settle in America. The move to America prompted Michael O’Regan to Americanize his surname to Reagan.

    Ronald Reagan’s family history continues with the birth of his grandfather, John Michael Reagan, the first generation of Reagans born in America, who was a grain farmer and married Jenny Cusick in 1878. She was also of Irish descent, although her Irish ancestors first settled in Canada. Ronald Reagan’s father, John Edward “Jack” Reagan was born, and Ronald Reagan’s family genealogy continued when Jack Reagan married Nelle Clyde Wilson, who had Scottish and English roots.

  • Fiberal

    AC says:
    March 18, 2012 at 8:53 am
    We know where his true beliefs lie.

    As I say, it matters not a bit about BO’s beliefs –those are out for anyone with eyes.

    What everyone’s concerns should be is the emergency control of the devastation done and to be done to the economy.

    Here are some of the harbingers of the BO economy to come:

    San Diego,
    Norfolk,
    San Jose,
    Las Vegas,
    Phoenix,
    Reno,
    Chicago,
    Baltimore,
    Yonkers,
    Honolulu,
    NYC
    San Francisco
    Los Angeles,
    Harrisburg PA
    Detroit

    All fundamentally bankrupt (and still erroneously attributing their problems to “the Recession”).

    All that is still not enough to open the eyes of the liberal deranged. They are focused on Rush, racism and the pseudo-rights of the buggerer and buggered.

    They are the catalysts and useful idiots for BO’s ongoing, willful and gleeful devastation of the American economy.

    BO is unchallenged and allowed to act in concert with his liberal dumocrats solely as a consequence of his skin color.

    This is part of the country’s all-out investment in blacks started with LBJ’s “war on poverty”.

    .

    Moreover, there is no challenge to assess the way the above ex-cities, now government welfare camps, will vote in the 2012 election.

    You heard it here first.

  • Bob Roberts

    Located near the intersections of California State Highways 94 and 125 (GPS: 32.733451, -117.033702) with a size of 3.9 square miles, Lemon Grove is essentially ENE of downtown San Diego and is almost due east of Lindbergh Field, the primary San Diego airport. 2010 population was estimated at 25,320, up a few hundred from 2000. First recorded resident was sheep rancher Robert Allison in 1869. Large citrus groves were planted after the turn of the century – this is what gave the community it’s present name. Lemon Grove didn’t incorporate as a city until 1977. One “notable resident” was Boyd Blake Rice, who reminds me a lot of lao. QUOTE: “I don’t care. I don’t think I ever made a wrong move.”

  • Bob Roberts

    Fiberal says: March 18, 2012 at 9:41 am
    ———-
    It is true San Diego is essentially bankrupt but I just want to clarify the reason why is the same sort of nonsense BO engages in even though you can’t really blame San Diego’s problems on BO directly, but you CAN blame it in a similar philosophy and similar actions and mistakes.

  • Bob Roberts

    FIBERAL:

    Essentially the same is true for the entire state of California as well as other states – perhaps you might want to say something on that topic.

  • Bob Roberts

    Occupy Wall Street Arrests – once again they show their true colors.

    They can’t even party without getting into trouble.

    Losers.

  • Bob Roberts

    Excerpts from my last link:

    Some boisterous protesters marched through the streets of the financial district, chanting “bankers are gangsters” and cursing at police.

    On Saturday evening, several dozen police ringed the park and watched the crowd. Detective Brian Sessa said no action would be taken as long as the activists made no move to establish a camp.

    Shortly after 11:30 p.m., some protesters began to erect tents near the center of the park and police began to move in, according to protester Cari Machet.

    When about 100 officers entered the park, dozens of protesters sat on the ground and refused orders to leave. They were then carried out in plastic handcuffs and put in police vehicles.

    The park was cleared within 20 minutes and by midnight no protesters remained in its boundaries.

    On Saturday night, independent filmmaker Michael Moore strode through the park before the police incursion.

  • Bob Roberts
  • Bob Roberts

    Our “pal” lao apparently missed this one, or ignored it because there’s no Tea Party link.

    This one is a lot closer to me – the location of his meltdown was just over Mt. Soledad from La Jolla, in PB at the north side of Mission Bay.

    Maybe lao ignored this because this is typical moonbat behavior or maybe it was, as I mentioned, the lack of a Tea Party link.

  • Bob Roberts
  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 8:38 am

    ——————–
    Lao brings up someone associated with the local Tea Party and goes on a fishing expedition to see if I might possibly know him – in what, an attempt to claim I’m guilty by association?

    I heard about this incident – missed the fact (?) it was a Tea Party guy though. That was not mentioned in earlier stories I saw.

    I suppose this is a weak attempt to paint the Tea Party as similar to “occupy” – we all know that rapes at “occupy” gatherings were a standard event.

    This is the only incident I’ve heard where someone with Tea Party connections was involved in an alleged rape, though I’d caution lao and others to not jump to conclusions. It is possible the rape charge isn’t necessarily 100% valid. None of us really knows what exactly happened, after all.

    Plus this didn’t happen at a Tea Party event nor is this guy necessarily still associated with the Tea Party.

    So lao is reaching, as usual.

    It’s amusing what great lengths moonbats will go to in order to try to make the case they’re just like the sane among us. Or, in this case, assuming the charges turn out to be valid, not quite so sane.

  • Bob Roberts

    Perhaps lao should research his stories a bit more before he tells them?

    QUOTE:

    So Cal Tax Revolt Coalition (SCTRC) is the original home and organizers of of San Diego tea party events and activism, including the first local tea party on February 27th, 2009, annual Tax Day Tea Parties, and over 40 rallies, protests, petition drives, film screenings, and educational seminars.

    We are not affiliated with, nor have we worked with the newer organization titled “San Diego Tea Party.” We are not familiar with self-proclaimed “spokesperson” for that organization, Michael John Kobulnicky of Lemon Grove. He has never been an organizer, speaker, or volunteer for our company or events. We do not know what his actual involvement is with the other tea party organization. We are not familiar with the Mission Valley Tea Party that Kobulnicky reported to have founded.

    Leslie Eastman, SCTRC Media Director states: What I find fascinating is that the some in the media wish to rush into reporting that a person is a “Tea Party Leader” or otherwise active member without fully vetting the subject whenever there is a potential criminal case. A simple background check would have found that Kobulnicky essentially took a leave from the “San Diego Tea Party” in January and had neither interacted nor worked with them since that time. Furthermore, a fair-minded reporter who was well-informed about “Tea Party” activism would recognize that there are no “Tea Party Leaders”. Some individuals may proclaim this status; however, anyone following today’s citizen activism would be astute enough to view such claims with a healthy degree of skepticism.

    This is a blatant example of the blatant double standard taken by some journalists. There have been dozens of brutal rape cases associated with the “Occupy Wall Street” movement. Specifically, those crimes have occurred in camps during their designated protest activities. Yet, many press reports have minimized brutality associated with the dozens of reports that are known. And the news reports don’t try to paint the suspects as “Occupy Wall Street Leaders.”
    ————————-
    Hey lao – next time check your facts before you report them.

  • Fiberal

    Bob Roberts says:
    March 18, 2012 at 9:49 am

    FIBERAL:

    Essentially the same is true for the entire state of California as well as other states – perhaps you might want to say something on that topic.

    Bob,

    Sure.

    Like the federal government, cities usually have a slim margin for debt since they squander tax payer dollars on unions and other socialist programs.

    However, unlike the federal government, most cities are required to pass a balanced budget. That almost always puts them into deficit spending.

    So they rip up their budgets.

    That is, cities spend on unions and special interests. Mayors typically cut into their budgets and eliminate jobs to compensate.

    That’s now what’s going on across the country.

    Although not very smart, before the BO economy, cities could sustain a lot of this lunacy bc they could still raise a certain amount of revenues from businesses, state income taxes, property taxes and so on. That revenue would help to adjust the annual budget deficits since project spending could be offset by projected revenues. Cities could also sell municipal bonds to raise revenue for certain budget deadfalls.

    BO’s economy underscores this dismal process and escalates it to a new and unprecedented level of urgency thereby totally overwhelming the traditional city revenue schemes.

    That is,

    Regulations to the tune of $46B/yr, business/corporate/dividend taxes and other business disincentives, an energy policy that escalates the cost of living and business operations with rising and predictably rising manufacturing, distribution, diesel, gasoline costs.

    Worse, the tax code is unmanagable and unpredictable with Sarbanes-Oxley and the even more witless Dodd-Frank legislation. These have direct effects on business at the local level.

    BOcare has had a critical impact on business, beyond the scope of my interest to notate at this time.

    At least another 70 social-security based programs to cover non-taxpaying citizens to pay for everything from health care subsidies to cell phones. States and therefore cities are hit particularly hard to conform to the laws put into effect that makes these programs requirements.

    This escalates special interest costs.

    Add this to the fact that more and more government employees and other government-dependent useful idiots have loaded up onto the taxpayer back. This and high rates of unemployment further adds to city expenditures even as revenue goes down.

    What is the state and also city response? Tax the rich. Raise property taxes. Raise local sales tax. Raise revenue taxes. Not realizing of course that the “rich” is just a synonym for “economy”.

    Anyway, you get the point.

    Obviously, CA has awakened to see its big toe sticking out from the sheets, and has promptly shot it off. But that is bc there is a transition of American ownership to Mexican ownership of large parts of the state. While CA has inflicted this on itself, it is catalyzed by the Mexicans and Mexico.

    Meanwhile, BO (and the republicans) do nothing.

    While I agree with you that a lot of this is not technically a direct function of the BO economy, it nevertheless provides, through indirect actions and inaction, to continue and exacerbate the “recession” which destabilizes the already tipsy city budgets.

    Off the top of my hat, that’s it in a nutshell.

  • lao

    As usual bobby, multiple posts when one would do.

    San Diego Tea Party

  • AC

    How many rapes in the Occupy infestation?

  • SR
  • SR

    Liberty Park OWS Stream Contains Calls To Kill Cops

    http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=125005

  • SR
  • Bob Roberts

    Bob Roberts says: March 18, 2012 at 10:28 am

    ————–
    As usual, lao misses the truth and perpetuates a lie:

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 10:49 am

    —————-

    My multiple posts were on various topics.

    Yours was dealt with in my cited post, above.

    Try reading it.

    You can read, can’t you?

    Or is the problem you simply cannot comprehend, or cannot incorporate new information?

    Anyway, there is the Tea Party and there are people who want to hook into that SUCCESSFUL movement and call themselves “Tea Party” when they apparently aren’t.

    As pointed out in my link, your boy is one of the latter.

  • Bob Roberts

    Fiberal says: March 18, 2012 at 10:47 am
    ————
    Well said.

  • lao

    From the link I originally posted: On his website, http://www.michaelkobulnickyusa.com, Kobulnicky lists his leadership roles as “currently the co-organizer and public relations representative for the San Diego Tea Party.

    From what bobby quoted:
    Leslie Eastman, So Cal Tax Revolt Coalition Media Director states: What I find fascinating is that the some in the media wish to rush into reporting that a person is a “Tea Party Leader” ….Furthermore, a fair-minded reporter who was well-informed about “Tea Party” activism would recognize that there are no “Tea Party Leaders”.

    Thanks Leslie, SCTRC Media Director, for clearing that up.

  • Bob Roberts

    From lao’s cited link, which he apparently didn’t read:

    We had nothing to indicate Michael, who teaches children in school and works as a SD city landscaper would have done such a hideous thing.

    and

    The media, as we know, has a “Special Way” of implicating the ENTIRE Tea Party as a whole for the failure of one in a million members.

    But lao also missed what I posted, above:

    So Cal Tax Revolt Coalition (SCTRC) is the original home and organizers of of San Diego tea party events and activism, including the first local tea party on February 27th, 2009, annual Tax Day Tea Parties, and over 40 rallies, protests, petition drives, film screenings, and educational seminars.

    We are not affiliated with, nor have we worked with the newer organization titled “San Diego Tea Party.” We are not familiar with self-proclaimed “spokesperson” for that organization, Michael John Kobulnicky of Lemon Grove. He has never been an organizer, speaker, or volunteer for our company or events. We do not know what his actual involvement is with the other tea party organization. We are not familiar with the Mission Valley Tea Party that Kobulnicky reported to have founded.

    —————-
    Further, had lao bothered to check (I bet he did, he simply failed to REPORT what he found), Kobulnicky disassociated with the “Tea Party” group prior to the incident.

    Now lao, do I have to define “former” for you, or do you know what it means?

    FORMER TEA PARTY SPOKESMAN ARRESTED ON KIDNAPPING, RAPE CHARGES

    So, basically, in his ongoing attempts to smear the Tea Party, the best he can do is dig up ALLEGATIONS that are not INVESTIGATED or PROVEN against a FORMER associate of a group that the REAL Tea Party in San Diego says they know little to nothing about.

    GOOD JOB lao! KEEP IT UP!

    In an aside, I do know several women that live around where this happened, though none are 55-56, which are the reported ages of the victim, depending on the source. So I briefly wondered if the victim was anyone I knew – but I doubt it. Too old.

  • AC

    Suppose for a moment he was – the TPM is a much larger group, with fewer incidents than OWS.

    The numbers still work in favor of the TPM.

    This incident, if it happened as reported, while unfortunate, doesn’t tarnish the overall movement’s respect for the law.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 11:21 am
    ————-
    Here lao says that just because this guy claims to be a Tea Party big shot, that means he is.

    Let me make a simple example that should clear things up.

    In this space lao often posts things in a manner that suggests he’s trying to indicate certain facts about himself, one of which would be that he knows what he’s talking about, another that he’s a reliable source of information.

    We all know, from reading his posts, both of these are blatant, ridiculous lies.

    So lao’s logic, that just because someone says or implies something about themself, means it’s automatically true, is yet another good example of the complete lack of logic that is characteristic of lao’s posts here.

    Let me review:

    THE ACTUAL, ORIGINAL TEA PARTY SAYS THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GUY OR THE ORGANIZATION HE WAS BRIEFLY PART OF SOME TIME AGO.

    THE ORGANIZATION HE WAS APPARENTLY PART OF SAYS THEY PARTED WAYS WITH HIM MONTHS AGO.

    But, since he hasn’t gotten around to updating his own website to reflect these FACTS, lao chooses to link it.

    Way to cherry pick, lao!

    Don’t you get tired of being bested? Seriously, I’m getting tired of smacking you around so easily. It’s getting boring.

  • lao

    bobby quotes: So Cal Tax Revolt Coalition (SCTRC) is the original home and organizers of of San Diego tea party events and activism, including the first local tea party on February 27th, 2009

    San Diego Tea Party states: “Founded February 22, 2009.”

  • Fiberal

    Bob, AC,

    Here’s some gratuitous advice.

    If Lao-Z is confused over something as fundamental as mistaking his large intestine for a sex organ, it is even more likely that he is confused about a lot of other things.

    It seems like it would be completely useless to try and decatenate his intentional meanderings.

  • Bob Roberts

    And, as I pointed out in an earlier post, FROM THE ORIGINAL LINK LAO POSTED THAT STARTED THIS DISCUSSION

    the San Diego Tea Party [a more recent "Tea Party" group not associated with the older, original "Tea Party" movement here, which was started by the SCTRC, another point lao seems to be deliberately ignoring] issued a statement indicating that Kobulnicky took leave the group in January for personal reasons and had not been in touch since then, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports.
    ————–
    So even by reading his original link lao would find that this guy is NOT a Tea Party group member at this time, even though he claims otherwise on his website, and therefore this is NOT a story about a “Tea Party Leader” even though lying lunatic leftists like lao desperately wish it were so.

  • Fiberal

    Bob Roberts says:
    March 18, 2012 at 11:20 am

    ————
    Well said.

    Thanks very much

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 11:33 am
    ——————-
    Now, apparently, lao is claiming to be a San Diego Tea Party expert?

    Once again lao bases his logic on things he reads on the internet. Based on his performance in this discussion it’s fair to suggest that lao:

    - believes 9/11 was a right wing plot and the twin towers were brought down by deliberately placed demolition charges, not aircraft hijacked by moslem terrorists.

    - believes we never actually landed on the moon.

    After all, the internet says so!

    I hate to burst your bubble, lao, but just because someone says it on the internet doesn’t make it true.

  • lao

    LOL!! bobby, you make that apparent every time you post.

  • Bob Roberts

    I’ll quote the SCTRC link again, as they ARE the REAL/ORIGINAL sponsors of GENUINE Tea Party events here in San Diego.

    So Cal Tax Revolt Coalition (SCTRC) is the original home and organizers of of San Diego tea party events and activism, including the first local tea party on February 27th, 2009, annual Tax Day Tea Parties, and over 40 rallies, protests, petition drives, film screenings, and educational seminars.

    We are not affiliated with, nor have we worked with the newer organization titled “San Diego Tea Party.” We are not familiar with self-proclaimed “spokesperson” for that organization, Michael John Kobulnicky of Lemon Grove. He has never been an organizer, speaker, or volunteer for our company or events. We do not know what his actual involvement is with the other tea party organization. We are not familiar with the Mission Valley Tea Party that Kobulnicky reported to have founded.

    SCTRC

    While I’ve pointed out that I’VE NEVER BEEN TO A LOCAL TEA PARTY EVENT more than once at moonbattery, I am familiar with the FACT that the SCTRC is, as they claim, “the original home and organizers of of San Diego tea party events and activism”.

    Now the other organization, that lao seems to have missed or is deliberately ignoring, also states that they have no current connection with the guy who ALLEGEDLY kidnapped and raped that woman.

    They may have some members who were with the ORIGINAL/AUTHENTIC Tea Party and they may well be dedicated Tea Party members as it’s more of a grassroots/informal movement that welcomes all who believe that government is too large and burdensome and that taxes need to be reduced or abolished wherever possible. That may explain why they (according to lao, which I caution DOES NOT MEAN IT’S TRUE) claim to have started on the same date as the SCTRC group. Maybe they did – but how, then, do you explain that this is the first I’ve heard of them? For all they know they could be a bunch of leftists dedicated to smearing the Tea Party – which would not be the first time we’ve seen leftists doing this. Who knows – they may have planned out the kidnapping and rape for just that reason. The left, after all, believes that the ends justifies the means.

    So lao uses a FOUNDED date on a MEETUP page to try to prove some point? Does he even know which group (the one founded by SCTRC or the other one that the guy USED TO BE affiliated with) posted the MEETUP link?

    I doubt it.

    Lao can’t really comprehend what he reads anyway, as he’s shown in this thread, and others, repeatedly.

    The original San Diego “Tea Party” Might want to look closely at this page, lao – it has a clue you seem to be missing.

    Apparently one of the later groups, perhaps founded by someone who left the first group yet uses the same date?

    The take-home messages are:

    1) There are multiple groups in San Diego that call themselves “Tea Party”.

    2) At the time of the incident and indeed to this day, this guy still claimed affiliation with one of the smaller, less active ones. ALL ACTUAL Tea Party San Diego groups say he wasn’t associated with them at the time of the incident.

    3)The left, and lao, ignored repeated, regular, serious crimes involving not only sexual assault and kidnapping, but also MURDER at “occupy” events and yet can’t stop rubbing their hands with glee over an alleged FORMER TEA PARTY MEMBER who has been accused but not investigated, tried or convicted.

  • Bob Roberts

    As Fiberal and I have pointed out, along with others,
    it is no doubt beyond lao’s ability to comprehend that anyone can claim to be “Tea Party” and also that there might be multiple groups who choose to affiliate with the “Tea Party”, not all of them welcome! If a racist group found they agreed with much or even all of what the “Tea Party” said, that doesn’t mean

    A) That the “Tea Party” would accept them
    B) That they would then be “Tea Party”, even if they claimed they were
    C) That anything they did was then properly claimed to be the act of the “Tea Party” or a “Tea Party member or leader”.

    I know, lao, such concepts are beyond your one dimensional thinking abilities. But I thought I’d at least try – maybe, just maybe, you’ll have a flash of intuition and…

    SHEESH, who am I kidding?

  • Bob Roberts

    Well, as I said, lao, it’s been real. But, unlike you, I have a life, so let’s see if you just regurgitate the same nonsense and lies or if you actually come up with something worth reading. I leave it to you, for now.

  • lao

    Mission Valley’s Chapter Of The Tea Party Is Looking For A Few Good Men

    Dara Bailey and Michael J. Kobulnicky of the Mission Valley Tea Party stopped by Mission Valley News to introduce themselves and outline their agenda for 2012

    Sex Assault Suspect a Tea Party Leader

    A statement from the San Diego Tea Party said Kabulnicky has been on haitus since January for personal reasons and has been relieved from his Tea Party duties during legal proceedings.

    “Our hearts and our thoughts go out to the victim,” read the statement.
    A second statement was released Saturday in which spokesperson Dara Bailey wrote….

  • Fiberal

    Meanwhile, in a confirmation of my dire warning above, Politico has an all-but completely incoherent article, (seemingly to exonerate BO for his continued effort to destroy the economy) with a money-shot that

    “The Congressional Budget Office said Friday that President Barack Obama’s tax and spending policies will yield $6.4 trillion in deficits over the next decade.”

    Politico got that right, but they really need to find someone to help them with their writing.

    (Maybe look on Moonbattery first, guys)

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74109.html#ixzz1pUxuizep

  • Bob Roberts

    Was going to post something unrelated before I left, but I see lao posted above so… the dateline from his second link:

    Sunday, Mar 18, 2012

    There are a plethora of groups in San Diego who call themselves “Tea Party” and it is entirely likely one or more are leftists infiltrators – a tactic that is well known among the left.

    So lao knows that THIS GUY WAS “ON HAITUS SINCE JANUARY” and “HAS BEEN RELIEVED”. Once again, this is a relatively unknown “Tea Party” splinter, so lao’s (and the MSM’s) ongoing attempts to tar the whole party with this one event are pathetic uber-fails!

    You’re pathetic, lao.

    Now onto the link I wanted to post, something IMPORTANT that affects THE WHOLE NATION and involves the CONSTITUTION:

    Holder advocates brainwashing. Link shows Eric Holder announcing a public campaign to “really brainwash people”.

  • Fiberal

    Lao-Z,

    Posting other people’s work verbatim is not thinking.

    Get your head out of your large intestine.
    (is that hate speech?)

  • Bob Roberts

    Can’t resist:

    Latest lao link states:

    Kobulnicky is accused of a Feb. 25 abduction and sexual assault of a 56-year-old woman who was walking home near Linda Vista Rd. in Fiesta Island. The woman was pulled into a car and assaulted, then left on the island, police said.

    ———————

    The nearest point on Fiesta Island to Linda Vista Road is over 4,000 feet away, nearly a mile, in fact, yet lao’s source states “near Linda Vista Rd. in Fiesta Island.”

    They also refer to the guy, who fancies himself a “communications director” for the Tea Party, as a “Tea Party leader”, which is obviously false because, unlike the “occupy” movement, the Tea Party doesn’t have leaders and isn’t a front for a political party nor is it funded and supported by unions, leftists and elites like Michael Moore and George Soros.

    So, in a final summary:

    This guy was NOT a Tea Party “leader”
    This guy was NOT currently affiliated with ANY Tea Party group and had not been since January.
    This did not happen at or in conjunction with a Tea Party event.
    Even if any or all of the above were not true, this ONE EVENT pales in comparison to the DAILY RAPES AND MURDERS that were happening at “occupy” events.

    So, lao, would you please sum up your points? Why are you harping on this NON-STORY?

  • Bob Roberts

    Another significant part of LAO’S OWN LINK that he deliberately avoided:

    “One of the things each volunteer of the Tea Party stands for is that each person is responsible for his or her own actions. This is individual responsibility. These allegations fall into that category. This horrendous act of violence was perpetrated by an individual. It did not take place at a Tea party function nor would any Tea Party member or volunteer condone this act. This was a deplorable act that we all condemn, having a strong belief in the rule of law. Everyone is so focused on the fact that Mr. Kobulnicky was a Tea Party member and former spokesperson for a local group, they are forgetting the victim. These allegations should never have become political in nature. In the meantime, this victim and the senseless brutality she has suffered are all but lost. All thoughts should be on her and the others that will be hurt should these allegations prove to be true, such as Mr. Kobulnicky’s five children who are innocent.”

  • lao

    Well bobby, if you really want to quote, here’s a portion of your latest:

    Everyone is so focused on the fact that Mr. Kobulnicky was a Tea Party member and former spokesperson for a local group

  • AC

    Breaking news: Details are sketchy, but our sources report that an unidentified police department is writing a speeding department to a high ranking Tea Party member as we speak. Stay tuned to MSLSD for more details as they become available, including the identity of the criminal Tea Partier and more details of this heinous incident.

  • lao

    The actual issue here, as I knew it would be, is the frantic efforts of conservatives to provide cover for themselves when providing cover was not even necessary.

    You COULD have responded, “what a horrible crime, if he’s found guilty I hope they throw the book at him!”.

    That would have been that.

    Naturally, the emphasis instead has been on multiple long-winded posts claiming the guy is NOT a Tea Party member, that his organization is somehow not legitimate, that there is no such thing as a Tea Party “leader” etc. Now bobby is even quibbling about geography and what “near” means.

    Very amusing.

  • TaterSalad

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    Panetta also keynoted the conference of a pro-Soviet, anti-war group during the height of the Cold War, and has previous unexplained close ties to the Institute for Policy Studies, a pro-Marxist think tank accused of anti-CIA activity.
    And that’s just the start of Panetta’s controversial background and radical associations exposed in the recently released book, “Red Army: The Radical Network that must be defeated to save America,” . The book also charges Panetta with anti-CIA activity. Penatta served as CIA chief under President Obama until his appointment to the secretary of defense post earlier this year.

    Until his ascent to CIA director in 2009, Panetta co-chaired the Joint Ocean Commission Initiative, which is the partner of Citizens for Global Solutions in a push to ratify U.S. laws and regulations governing the seas. The oceans initiative, dissected in the “Red Army” book, bills itself as a bipartisan, collaborative group that aims to “accelerate the pace of change that results in meaningful ocean policy reform.”
    Among its main recommendations is that the U.S. should put its oceans up for regulation to the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea.
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    National Director, America Conservative2Conservative

  • AC

    If he is found guilty then I do hope they throw the book at him, Tea Party member or not.

    Your mistake was using what is an isolated incident to attack an entire movement.

    Tea Party rallies almost never leave any garbage on the ground when they’re finished, let alone a trail of sexual assault victims in their wake, as is common with OWS.

  • lao

    Too funny AC.

    You will search this thread in vain for a remark from me attacking the Tea Party for what this flake did.

    Naturally, blount devotes an entire thread, (Occucommie Calls For Murder) the latest of many, using what is an isolated incident to attack an entire movement.

    In a comment supporting that thread, you start off whining Hypocrisy incarnate.

    Too true AC, too true.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Naturally, blount devotes an entire thread, (Occucommie Calls For Murder) the latest of many, using what is an isolated incident to attack an entire movement.
    ——————

    Ah, but once again YOU ARE WRONG, for I pointed out that , here at “occupy” San Diego, I caught one of these idiots trying to gather support for ganging up and taking the weapons from police at their gatherings to then use against them.

    It’s not an “isolated incident”, it’s part of the overall “occupy” strategy, apparently, as I’m sure these are NOT the only two times that “occupiers” have called for violence against police as I’ve seen in in several other locations at several other times also.

    You may be in denial, as usual, but WE ARE NOT.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 1:14 pm
    The actual issue here, as I knew it would be, is the frantic efforts of conservatives to provide cover for themselves when providing cover was not even necessary.
    —————-
    The actual issue is you and the media are trying to claim that cover is needed, when you actually admit it is not, because this was a rare and isolated incident involving a guy who was NOT currently affiliated with ANY Tea Party group (as YOU admit) and was NOT related to any Tea Party event.

    Yet you claim you’re NOT trying to attack the Tea Party, though your posts CONCLUSIVELY prove otherwise.

    Your lies get tedious, lao.

    As for “near”, I was not “quibbling about geography”. I was pointing out how UNRELIABLE your sources were. They can’t even get basic geographic facts straight, facts anyone familiar with the area where the incident occurred would readily know!

    Linda Vista Road dead ends into Morena about a mile from Fiesta Island, yet the report suggested it actually was ON the island, if I recall correctly.

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 12:54 pm
    ————-
    LOL – Of course you forget that was not MY latest, BUT YOURS! I was pointing out A DIFFERENT PART of that quote, but leave it to YOU to CHERRY PICK! Go back & read the whole quote and get back to me.

    Read the section you cherry picked IN CONTEXT as the rest of us do.

  • Bob Roberts

    (Apparently lao is making a big deal I was right and the guy was a FORMER “spokesperson”. Nice of him to finally admit he’s been lying all along.)

  • Bob Roberts

    I also get a kick out of how lao thinks calling me “Bobby” might upset me.

    You can call me whatever you want, lao. I don’t care what homosexual pedophiles like you call me – it won’t bother me at all whatever you call me.

  • AC

    If he wanted to attack the Tea Party Movement, you’d think he’d point to the election of John Boehner as proof it isn’t effective. Instead, lao grasps at straws.

  • lao

    Keep on digging boys.

    No surprise that bobby, in his desperation, now resorts to his tired, slimy, smears.

    I notice San Diego Tea Party is just as incoherent as you.

    Same (sic) disturbing news for members of the San Diego Tea Party

    Here’s their attempt to write the FIRST two sentences of their “news”:

    A member and Volunteer for San Diego Tea Party, Micheal Kobulnicky, He been arrested and charged with Kidnapping, and Rape of a 55 year old woman at Fiesta island.

    Thanks for the further geography lesson by the way.

  • J

    MARTIAL LAW? OBAMA ISSUES EXECUTIVE ORDER: ‘NATIONAL DEFENSE RESOURCES PREPAREDNESS’…

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

  • J

    Executive-order panic: Martial law in U.S.?
    White House quietly releases document that creates widespread worry

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/executive-order-panic-martial-law-in-america/

  • J
  • J
  • SR

    Geeee! Not again!

  • SR

    Sorry wrong thread:(

  • lao

    National Council of Americans, Inc.

    Michael J. Kobulnicky, MBA, President/CEO and Chairman of the Board of The National Council of Americans, Inc.

    Mr. Kobulnicky is single and has five adult sons. Four sons reside with their mom and two of them are getting married soon. He loves to read all different types of books, especially books relating to the Constitution and our Founding Fathers. He is a Christian too.

    Mr. Kobulnicky cherishes our Constitution and values the sacred freedoms we have unlike all other countries! His passion is to educate youth and adults concerning the Constitution and other topics and to motivate people to take action and protect our Constitution, country, and our American way of life.

    Need a Public Speaker For Your Event? Hire NCOAM President: Michael J. Kobulnicky, MBA to speak on a variety of topics.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    Lao
    Did this alleged crime occur AT a Tea Party ?
    Were other members attempting to cover it up ?
    Were they demanding to “police themselves” ?
    Did they create unsafe conditions that would have facilitated this crime ?
    Is the Tea Party demanding a Roman Polanski style
    waiver ?
    Thanks for playing

  • SR
  • SR

    Leslie Eastman, SCTRC Media Director states: What I find fascinating is that the some in the media wish to rush into reporting that a person is a “Tea Party Leader” or otherwise active member without fully vetting the subject whenever there is a potential criminal case.

    http://www.socaltaxrevoltcoalition.org/18.html

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 3:57 pm
    ———-
    Ah, so the truth hurts?

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 4:42 pm
    ————-

    LOL, and I’m the President, CEO and Chairman of the Board of ten corporations… so what?

  • lao

    So, you are a liar.

  • Bob Roberts

    SR says: March 18, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    ———
    Note how, above, lao INSISTED that he wasn’t trying to make a point of the guy’s alleged “leadership” position in the local Tea Party, THEN HE TRIED AGAIN! He’s such a clown! He’s really gone well beyond boring and is bordering on annoying – but that’s his goal, so we should just go back to ignoring him so he can keep talking to himself.

    At least, until his doctor properly adjusts his meds.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 5:20 pm
    ————
    I hate to be tempted to come down to your level, but:

    I know you are, but what am I.

    (NO, really, I really AM the President, CEO and Chairman of the Board of 10 corporations. I’m not kidding. My point is IT IS NO BIG DEAL.)

  • Bob Roberts

    BTW once again lao “cherry picked” from the link he gave at 3:57.

    Here are the points he’s ignoring:

    The media, as we know, has a “Special Way” of implicating the ENTIRE Tea Party as a whole for the failure of one in a million members.

    We had nothing to indicate Michael, who teaches children in school and works as a SD city landscaper would have done such a hideous thing.

  • lao

    Too funny bobby.

    Instead of acknowledging reality, YOU are the one digging and digging trying to claim that this flake had no connection to the Tea Party.

    I have simply provided links and quotes to affirm the connection existed.

    My latest link to the National Council of Americans demonstrates he’s up to his neck in other conservative causes.

    It will be fun to watch that website to see how they respond to the charges against their founder, President/CEO and Chairman of the Board.

  • SR

    Bob’ he’s a waste of time.

    “At last we have a violent crime to peg on a so-called tea party activist”

  • lao

    LOL!! Where did your “quote” come from SR?

    Let me guess…you made it up.

  • Bob Roberts

    SR says: March 18, 2012 at 5:38 pm
    Bob’ he’s a waste of time.

    —-

    In a sense, yes, but look, I’ve maneuvered him into another blatant lie:

    lao says:
    March 18, 2012 at 5:32 pm Too funny bobby.

    Instead of acknowledging reality, YOU are the one digging and digging trying to claim that this flake had no connection to the Tea Party.

    —————-
    I’ve acknowledged FROM THE START that he USED to volunteer with ONE SPLINTER TEA PARTY GROUP here but even they disavowed him back in January, A FACT EVEN YOU ADMITTED EARLIER, BUT NOW YOU’VE RETURNED TO LYING.

    And the funny thing is your comment:

    My latest link to the National Council of Americans demonstrates he’s up to his neck in other conservative causes.

    ————
    I was going to let you off the hook concerning “The National Council of Americans” but I think rather I’ll just let you twist in the wind a bit. I gave you a hint but you totally missed it.

    Again, though, WHAT IS YOUR POINT? So he was a volunteer with a local Tea Party splinter group, until they distanced themselves from him IN JANUARY (would you care to guess why?) and so he’s the President/CEO/Chairman of the Board of “a corporation”.

    Really, I’m busting at the seams over that one. You really have that hook set deep! But I’m going to let you run with it a bit longer before I haul you in.

    I mean, I’m ROTFLTICSS over your “watch that website to see how THEY respond to the charges against THEIR founder, President/CEO and Chairman of the Board.”

    Yeah, let’s just do that!

    You are such an idiot! You’ve outdone yourself this time!

  • Bob Roberts

    Here is another critical hint for lao, which will no doubt sail miles over his head:

    Why do you think the Tea Party decided to put this guy out to pasture, to distance themselves from him, last January, lao?

    and

    What was the “occupy” response to rapes and such in their various camps?

    (Since I’m sure lao will “have trouble remembering”, I’ll remind him that they put victims under pressure to NOT report rapes and sexual assaults to the police.)

  • lao

    No bobby, San Diego Tea Party didn’t “disavow him back in January”.

    You need to pay attention to your own posts. @11:42 am you said: …issued a statement indicating that Kobulnicky took leave the group in January for personal reasons and had not been in touch since then, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports.

    Who just got caught lying bobby?

  • wingmann

    “By the Company That I Keep”

    Our “Class Act” Leader shows his true colors, yet again…

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/17/cee_lo_green_performs_fk_you_flips_off_crowd_at_obama_fundraiser.html

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 18, 2012 at 7:48 pm
    ————-
    Once again, you’re showing your ignorance of the world. Comes from spending too much time in your parents’ basement.

    When you throw someone out, but you don’t want to get a lawsuit for doing it, you say, “… took leave for personal reasons…” or some such.

    Listen, I’m going to let you in on a little secret.

    I know people who know people. Let’s just say I know a few things you don’t about this case and leave it at that.

  • FrankW

    How bout this:
    Assuming the guy is in the TP (very debatable at this point, the TP basically says he ain’t, an old status post of his says he is).
    {I know when I get arrested for beating a chick the first thing I do is update status of my political affiliation.}
    The arrest score (if he is in the TP) is now TP 1, ows 1,500+.

  • Bob Roberts

    FrankW says: March 19, 2012 at 4:32 am
    —————–
    Every organization has it’s bad apples.

    That he was (and, according to HIS pages, is) associated with one of the San Diego tea party groups was really never an issue.

    Clearly lao was piling on to the mainstream media’s attempt to use this one isolated incident to tar the tea parties nationwide, though he denies that was his motivation.

    You raised an excellent point, though. If we’re keeping score this is still essentially a skunk.

    Again, as I told lao, there is more to this story than has been printed to date. Whether it will come out or not won’t be up to me.

  • lao

    That @11:32 was a double over, hold my stomach, pound the table with my fist, and laugh until the tears rolled down my cheeks moment.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, I posted to you on the newest Open Thread, with a link that shows this entire Tea Party rapist story is a complete media LIE!

    You are welcome to comment there!

  • lao

    stanwee, you repeated bobby I know people who know people roberts’ redundancy. Try looking @10:28 am / 11:27 am and 12:18.

    Turf wars between two different San Diego tea party groups are a big yawn.

    Here’s the first two hits you get when you search for “San Diego Tea Party”.

    San Diego Tea Party

    So Cal Tax Revolt Coalition

    See if you can find a quote from anybody claiming Kobulnicky was affiliated with SCTRC.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, I came back here because I figured you would be too much of a coward to post on a current thread, but would keep running back this one in a pathetic attempt to get the last word in.

    I posted the links for you in the CURRENT open thread. grow a spine and try responding there.

  • octa bright

    Lao
    I could claim to be the Lord High Execitutioner of the York Tea Party Movement and of the town of Nanki-Poo with a code name of Ko-Ko and create a web site to that effect but that does not mean that I have any relation to a real tae party group. If the individual is guilty then let him be punished as is approprite. Since he no longer is involved in the movement nor did the incident take place at a movement event it is not really relevant. (For those individuals who care about cultural references see “The Mikado”.)

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 19, 2012 at 8:27 am
    ———-

    Like I said, your behavior will be more “normal” once you and your doctor get together and get your med doses straightened out. Until then I guess we’ll just have to put up with your nonsense.

    lao says: March 19, 2012 at 9:55 am
    —————–
    It’s not a “turf war”, more that the most active. most prominent San Diego County “Tea Party” affiliated organization seems to have been pretty much unaware of this guy and whatever “Tea Party” group he is affiliated with.

    The big laugh is how you claimed that your purpose was NOT to use this incident to try and bring down the Tea Party in general yet from your posts that is EXACTLY what you’ve been doing.

    I take it you still haven’t figured out what’s so funny about you making a big deal out of his further association with the “National Council of Americans”, and now I suppose you’re going to deny that you were further trying to tar conservatives based on that, too?

    Anyway, keep it up – you continue to make an obvious fool of yourself and though it’s boring it is still what we expect from you.

    And you haven’t disappointed us yet!

  • lao

    From the SCTRC website:

    San Diego Tea Party. Our History:
    On February 27th, 2009, Dawn Wildman, as a member of TCOT agreed to hold a tea party here in San Diego…. Leslie Eastman found Dawn on-line planning the event, and having a background in journalism, volunteered to put out a press release. Leslie invited Sarah Bond, a graphic artist she knew….. Not knowing if the term “tea party” would survive, we christened this new group the So Cal Tax Revolt Coalition…. Jeff Wangsgaard, unaware of SoCalTRC….organized a “planning meeting”…. Realizing we were working on the same agenda, we decided to work together to promote 2009 San Diego Tax Day Tea Party…. Jeff decided the San Diego Tea Party Meetup would focus on being a message board based forum….

    Do a web search for San Diego Tea Party Meetup and see where you end up. That’s right, the San Diego Tea Party that has admitted Kobulnicky was a member.

    As for the “leaderless” Tea Party structure we hear so much about, what else do we find on the SCTRC website?

    Dawn Wildman, SCTRC President
    Leslie Eastman, SCTRC Media Director
    Sarah Bond, SCTRC CEO

    See the bold names up above.

  • Bob Roberts

    THE LIES OF LAO

    Our resident pain in the A$$ lao has stated that he had no interest in highlighting the Conservative Connections of Kobulnicky. Of course we’ve said, from the start, that yes, Kobulnicky WAS associated with one Tea Party splinter group, though lao seems obsessed with/stuck on the idea we denied it.

    So, just to highlight lao’s continued lies, NOBODY SAID Kobulnicky WAS NEVER ASSOCIATED WITH A SAN DIEGO TEA PARTY GROUP.

    However, the point lao keeps running from is that, well before the incident in question, he had “taken a leave of absence FOR PERSONAL REASONS” – we all know what that means. Well, all of us but lao. And, since I made a few calls (San Diego is a big town, but not THAT big, it turns out), I found out a few more things. Not only about why he & the Tea Party had a rift, but about facts that may now be coming out about the incident. NOTE that there are growing signs there’s been a case of mistaken identity, for instance. But that’s not near all.

    Anyway, I note lao has stopped talking about the “other” “right wing” connection he had ferreted out with his super-sleuth activities.

    I’m wondering, lao, have “they” disavowed him yet?

    Or did you finally figure out there’s no “they” there?

    NOW, look at how lao “proves” the Tea Party has leaders:

    He says, QUOTE:

    As for the “leaderless” Tea Party structure we hear so much about, what else do we find on the SCTRC website?

    Dawn Wildman, SCTRC President
    Leslie Eastman, SCTRC Media Director
    Sarah Bond, SCTRC CEO

    ————–
    So he’s found the leadership OF THE SCTRC and he’s claiming that magically makes them the leaders of the Tea Party?

    It is true that the SCTRC is a primary and most active sponsor of Tea Party events in San Diego, but lao has uncovered that they lead the SCTRC, not the Tea Party.

    Apparently he’s too stupid to notice that.

    In any case, I’m expecting that this case will never result in a trial based on the additional facts that might, or might not, come out.

    We will see.

    One thing that is virtually certain (and I invite him to prove me wrong) is that lao will make yet another attempt to “get the last word” on this and will further make a fool of himself in the process.

    Anyone want to bet?

    Time will tell!

    NOTE: From lao’s own quotes, one sees that the term “tea party” was really just an informal gathering of people who felt we were all “Taxed Enough Already” and it was never intended to create a new political party. Further, this is underlined by the fact that, when these people who started the nascent movement here decided on a name for their organization it was not “Tea Party” but rather “SoCal Tax Revolt Coalition”.

    So lao has reversed his earlier position, one of them anyway, and is now claiming that the SCTRC IS the legitimate San Diego Tea Party?

    And actually I do hope lao does come back because he needs to explain how he arrives at this conclusion. QUOTE:

    Do a web search for San Diego Tea Party Meetup and see where you end up. That’s right, the San Diego Tea Party that has admitted Kobulnicky was a member.

    ———–

    As I said, NOBODY SAID HE WAS NOT A MEMBER – in fact, just the opposite, HE WAS A MEMBER. WE NEVER DENIED IT.

    SO WHAT?

    Obviously we can add “lao doesn’t know how “Meetup San Diego” works or what it means that someone has posted something there” to the long list of examples of lao’s complete inability to comprehend the real world the rest of us live in.

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