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Mar 25 2012

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Via iOwnTheWorld, on a tip from R F.

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  • lao


    Iraqi mother of five found severely beaten in California home dies

    A 32-year-old woman from Iraq who was found severely beaten next to a threatening note saying “go back to your country, you terrorist.” died on Saturday.

    The family had been living in the country since the mid 90’s.

  • Bob Roberts

    Muslim “How To” manual: Book tells Muslim men how to beat and control their wives

  • AC
  • Bob Roberts

    Corzine testimony directly refuted by evidence: Jon S. Corzine, MF Global Holding Ltd. (MFGLQ)’s chief executive officer, gave “direct instructions” to transfer $200 million from a customer fund account to meet an overdraft in a brokerage account with JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM), according to a memo written by congressional investigators.
    Edith O’Brien, a treasurer for the firm, said in an e-mail quoted in the memo that the transfer was “Per JC’s direct instructions,” according to a copy of the memo obtained by Bloomberg News. The e-mail, dated Oct. 28, was sent three days before the company collapsed, the memo says. The memo does not indicate whether that phrase was the full text of the e-mail or an excerpt.

  • Bob Roberts

    It turns out the left’s patron saint FDR was (drum roll please!) A ONE-PERCENTER, A TAX DODGER!

    Who knew?

    Turns out in 1914, the second year of the income tax, Franklin Roosevelt only paid a 1 percent rate on just 7 percent of his total income.

    What would Occupy (or Obama) say about this?

  • Bob Roberts

    The problem with the whole Zimmerman-Martin case is that, either way, the left/moonbats get the race war they want.

    Personally I wouldn’t have a problem with a charge being filed against Zimmerman – there’s at least enough evidence, perhaps, to justify a charge of manslaughter against him, for example.

    But, should a charge be filed, a trial be held and a jury comes back and says NOT GUILTY, will that be enough for lao and the other agitating moonbats currently calling for Zimmerman’s head?

    I mean the Black Panthers are in the process of forming a lynch mob. What’s up with that?

    It boils down to this:

    The Florida “stand your ground” statute, which some liberals are blaming for the incident, has NOTHING to do with it. That’s basically a law that has more to do with defending your home and property than what happened here. I don’t even think it applies and, as far as I know, neither does Zimmerman’s lawyer.

    Zimmerman had every right to follow Martin around if he wanted to, even though the 911 operator advised him not to. He was not, however, entitled to start a fight with Martin and, if the altercation was going poorly for him, draw his gun and shoot Martin. That is not self-defense. But nobody has any proof that is what happened – there is no real evidence to support that chain of events. As little as lao and his ilk regard facts, truth and logic, they’re still critical to EVERY case and, in this case, they don’t suggest that is what happened here.

    On the other hand, if it was Martin who started the altercation, even if Zimmerman was behaving somewhat weirdly, and if Zimmerman reasonably feared great bodily harm, he would have been justified in shooting Martin. This is the scenario that fits the evidence, this is the chain of events most supported by what facts we have at hand.

    Now the only problems I see with charging Zimmerman and bringing him to trial are these:

    It will be a circus.

    It will be milked by the Democrats for votes.

    It will be used by the usual suspects, including Obama, for all the political gain, and to ferment hardcore racism, as much as possible.

    The jury may be swayed not by the facts and evidence, but by fear of what will happen, INCLUDING THREATS AGAINST THEM AND THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILIES, if they don’t issue the “right” verdict.

    And, finally, if Zimmerman is acquitted, stand by for race riots like we’ve never seen before thanks to all the efforts Obama and others are making to turn this into a major race issue EVEN THOUGH BOTH INVOLVED WERE MINORITIES AND NEITHER OF THEM, TECHNICALLY, WAS “WHITE”.

  • AC

    Dave, the spam filter is blocking links to the_box_o_truth.com (without the underscores)

  • lao

    bobby lies: …will that be enough for lao and the other agitating moonbats currently calling for Zimmerman’s head?

    You can’t produce a quote from me “calling for zimmerman’s head”.

    Two days ago I posted: I am quite content to allow the investigations already under way to run their course.

    Meanwhile, bobby has posted at least 3 long-winded, redundant screeds attempting to pre-judge what happened.

  • T

    Be looking for 0bama’s false-flag sucker punch, his game plan ought to be pretty obvious by now.

  • AC

    So lao, when will you begin denouncing these prejudiced and hasty marches? The marchers are presuming guilt and calling for revenge.

    It must be easy for your because the race riot the leaders are trying to stir up won’t be happening in your backyard.

  • AC

    lao, do you want to critically examine the influence of agitators in incidents such as the Crown Heights riot and the 2009 Oakland riots?

    Can you recall any names of agitators who were present in the lead up to both?

  • nobody

    @ Lao

    CAIR Representatives and Lawyers were there, before the note was offered to the police….

    Oh, you did not read that version that is in the news?

    Funny how she was killed (possibly by her husband as a Honor Killing), after she dropped the kids off at school that morning, and all of the sudden CAIR is there at the time he reports the killing.

    Oops, very thin Lao. Please try harder.

    Sounds too much like a cover up.

  • nobody

    Hey Van. We need Uncle Joe ‘Know Nothing’ Biden in a Hoodie also.

  • lao

    nobody, since I linked to a FOX source, perhaps you can provide a link to back up your claims.

  • lao

    AC, Re marches, which one(s) are you talking about?

    You jumped on the LA riots bandwagon right from the start.

    My city is in the grips of race hustlers looking for retaliatory “racial justice” instead of a calm and collected inquiry under the law which maintains the constitutional presumption of innocence.

    How has that turned out?

    You are the guy who was upgrading the security on your house at the start of the weekend because you expected violence. Was it necessary or was that an over-reaction on your part? Who exactly was prejudiced and hasty?

    Look at the absurd claims made by the far right regulars here. I satirized this paranoia in another thread.

    I think the “bounty” placed by the flaky new black panthers is a self-serving ploy by a fringe and irrelevant group to get some media attention. If they or someone else tries to follow through they will get busted.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 25, 2012 at 7:42 pm
    —————–
    But it is lao that lies, for his rants are all about how he is in fact NOT happy with the fact that Zimmerman has not been charged or arrested and likely will NOT get ANY punishment.

    Sure, he says that he’s, “content to allow the investigations already under way to run their course” but his posts CLEARLY suggest otherwise.

    So lao lies:

    “Meanwhile, bobby has posted at least 3 long-winded, redundant screeds attempting to pre-judge what happened.”
    ————–
    I just laid out THE FACTS, lao. You know, those things you seem to be allergic to, because you throw fits whenever someone brings them up!

    And, no doubt, you are ignoring my latest post on the topic, IN THIS VERY THREAD, ABOVE. Or maybe not, as you always were a mental midget, incapable of really comprehending things adults are talking about.

  • lao

    bobby the liar once again.

    QUOTE ME and note the date and time.

  • AC

    AC, Re marches, which one(s) are you talking about?

    The ones going on right now at the scene.

    How has that turned out?

    They’re becoming more agitated and using more racially divisive language.

    You are the guy who was upgrading the security on your house at the start of the weekend because you expected violence. Was it necessary or was that an over-reaction on your part? Who exactly was prejudiced and hasty?

    I upgraded security because I saw the potential for violence, looting, or property destruction. The rec room needed an upgrade anyway, since it was built after the main house and wasn’t built to the same security standards.

    I had been planning to upgrade security anyway, even if only to stop garden variety thieves. The potential for trouble was a good reason to do it now instead of later.

    If something happens, I’m the one who pays. Therefore, I decided to take responsibility for my own property.

    I repeatedly said that I didn’t think riots were a likely outcome, but rather, enough of a possibility to warrant concern.

    I think the “bounty” placed by the flaky new black panthers is a self-serving ploy by a fringe and irrelevant group to get some media attention. If they or someone else tries to follow through they will get busted.

    When Sarah Palin released her map with the infamous crosshairs, you denounced her ploy for media attention because it could have, in your opinion, sparked violence from an extremist who didn’t understand the metaphorical nature of the crosshairs.

    Do you want to apply that same standard here so you are free of hypocrisy?

    Sharpton, Farrakhan, et al have provoked riots before. The situation at hand is the best parallel to what happened in LA in 1992 since that incident. We have an agitated mob who is unlikely to be satisfied by what appears to be an inevitable no bill from the grand jury. Will the whole thing stop there and fizzle out?

    If the grand jury is slow, the stirred up crowds might forget about it. Then again, they might not. The grand jury might also be swift and no bill this while the marches are still going on.

  • Bob Roberts

    Some time ago Obama famously stated the terms under which he should either get a second term or be sent packing after one.

    Now the time is drawing near and, CLEARLY, Obama’s performance suggests we should take him up on his own claim that it’s time to give someone who’s qualified a chance as he has CLEARLY failed to accomplish even his meager goals that he set as conditions for deserving a second term.

    In fact, he recently stated:

    “If [a leader] can’t deliver on any indicators of well-being… for [his] people… then you’d think you’d want to try something different.”

    We agree.

    NOBAMA 2012!

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 25, 2012 at 8:41 pm
    ———-
    Hold your breath while you wait for me to do so.

  • AC

    lao, suppose you lived in the US and saw a situation in your home town which, in your assessment, had a substantial possibility of erupting into violence.

    Would you upgrade security at your home?

    Would you exercise your Second Amendment right to own a firearm for the protection of yourself and your family?

  • lao

    I expected nothing less bobby.

    You make fatuous claims about what I have said and you love to capitalize the word FACTS.

    You are a liar and you can’t back up your own statements.

  • nobody

    Lao DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK SON!

    Look it up. I don’t have to link it to bow to you (I’ll let Obama do all the bowing).

    Look it up. You will see that I speak of what is fact.

    Peace, out!

  • Down Low Soetoro

    lao says: March 25, 2012 at 7:42 pm- “…You can’t produce a quote from me “calling for zimmerman’s head”…”

    Yo, dog. I hear dat. I know what you dig, and it ain’t what some honkey’s packin’. You still want mine though, gnomesayin?

  • Bob Roberts

    AC says: March 25, 2012 at 8:45 pm
    —————-
    As I posted earlier, the Black Panthers are now “offering a bounty” and “forming a militia”. And, of course, lao is either blissfully unaware of, in complete denial of, or (my guess) lying through his teeth about THESE FACTS.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 25, 2012 at 8:50 pm
    ————
    You holding your breath yet?

    I think I’ve told you before that we don’t take marching orders from you – we’re not at your beck and call. I know that a narcissistic megalomaniac such as yourself has trouble comprehending he can’t just come in and give everyone else orders – so welcome to the real world, lao!

  • Bob Roberts

    Here’s the quote of mine lao presented:

    “will that be enough for lao and the other agitating moonbats currently calling for Zimmerman’s head?”

    Apparently he also flunked basic English Grammar.

    Read it again lao.

    You’re lying about what I said.

  • Bob Roberts

    Try diagramming the sentence, lao, then upload an image of the diagram to the web, give us the URL, I’ll go there and CORRECT it, because, CLEARLY, you’re FAILING again.

  • Bob Roberts

    Or, if you prefer, use Venn diagrams. Either way, YOU DON’T GET IT, LAO!

    You’re just lying, again. I’ll let you squirm a while then I’ll let you in on what you’re missing.

  • Bob Roberts

    Here’s a hint, lao. Provide the date and time where I said, “lao is calling for Zimmerman’s head”.

  • Bob Roberts

    AC says: March 25, 2012 at 8:47 pm
    ————
    If claims lao is Canadian and living in Canada are correct, lao has no “Second Amendment rights”. Contrary to what the left claims, the Constitution applies to American Citizens, not foreign people in foreign lands.

  • Sam

    http://www.reuters.com/article/comments/idUSBRE82O0F820120325

    Calls for Zimmerman to be lynched and/or raped in the comments.

  • lao

    Too funny.

    booby’s complete sentence @7:34 wasBut, should a charge be filed, a trial be held and a jury comes back and says NOT GUILTY, will that be enough for lao and the other agitating moonbats currently calling for Zimmerman’s head?

    @7:42 I quoted the latter part of that sentence preceding the quote with a telltale … (dot, dot, dot) to indicate I had snipped the beginning.

    It’s hilarious that I can quite easily provide the date and time for what you said, but you can’t provide the date and time of a quote of my that backs up what you claimed.

    bobby is also lying @8:40 when he claimed But it is lao that lies, for his rants are all about how he is in fact NOT happy with the fact that Zimmerman has not been charged or arrested and likely will NOT get ANY punishment.

    Once again, bobby won’t produce a quote to back up his claim.

    Two claims, no proof = bobby is a liar.

  • Dr. 9

    It may not be a smart idea to jump on the black/liberal bandwagon and look to hang Zimmerman so quick. The Mullah-in-Chief and the MSM are doing everything they can to fan the flames, and neither of them have all the “facts”.

    From Fox News: 3/25/12:

    Attorney Craig Sonner said the public is only hearing part of the story, and when all the facts come out, it will be clear that Zimmerman acted in self defense. A grand jury is scheduled to begin hearing the case April 10.

    “George Zimmerman suffered a broken nose, and had an injury to the back of his head, he was attacked by Trayvon Martin on that evening,” Sonner said. “This was a case of self defense…”

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 25, 2012 at 9:21 pm
    ————
    Poor lao, HE JUST DOES NOT GET IT.

    You failed English Grammar, correct?

    If you didn’t, you should have.

    Once again, that sentence you keep quoting does not say “lao is calling for Zimmerman’s head” like you’re suggesting.

    Read it again.

  • AC

    Forensic investigators will also be able to conclusively use ballistic evidence to reconstruct the positioning of Zimmerman and Trayvon at the moment the shot or shots were fired. This evidence could potentially exonerate Zimmerman if it shows that the positioning of the gun relative to Trayvon suggested that Zimmerman shot while fending off a close range attack.

  • Bob Roberts

    And lao, if what I said in what you’re calling the “second quote” or whatnot, is not true, then WHY ARE YOU STILL POSTING ON LAST WEEK’s NEWS?

    That matter, other than the racists WHO ARE CALLING FOR ZIMMERMAN’S HEAD (note I didn’t say lao was doing it), is pretty much a done deal at this point. There was clear evidence, clear enough for the local authorities, that Zimmerman acted purely in self defense THAT THEY DID NOT EVEN ARREST OR CHARGE HIM.

    And all lao can say is that others are going to figure this out, when THEY ALREADY HAVE. So why is lao STILL harping on it?

  • lao

    (rolls eyes)

    bobby’s sentence: But, should a charge be filed, a trial be held and a jury comes back and says NOT GUILTY, will that be enough for lao and the other agitating moonbats currently calling for Zimmerman’s head?

    You quite clearly lump me in with “other agitating moonbats” and you did it deliberately. You didn’t have to put my name in there, you CHOSE to.

    Now, provide a quote of mine with date and time that demonstrates you were justified in putting my name in that sentence.

    Naturally, you won’t because there’s no such quote.

  • AC

    Notice how lao ignores the inconvenient questions.

  • lao

    Notice I’m trying, once again, to deal with surreal, that is to say, bobby’s grasp of reality.

  • AC

    If you lived in the US, and saw a situation which, in your opinion, could degenerate into violence or looting, would you exercise your Second Amendment rights?

    If you lived in Sanford right now, would you buy a gun to protect yourself in the event things turn ugly?

    If you lived in Florida, would you buy a gun to protect yourself in the event of a major hurricane?

    If there were a spike in burglaries in your neighborhood, would you buy a gun to protect yourself against intruders?

  • lao

    AC are you talking about your own “inconvenient questions”? Here you go.

    @8:45 Do you want to apply that same standard here so you are free of hypocrisy?

    Bogus question as the standard you claim I applied to Palin was wrong.

    @8:47 you asked about my response to personal security.

    I put better locks on my house after a B&E. I was severely annoyed by some expensive vandalism to my property, but apart from being there to see it happen there’s no precaution I could have taken. How would I react to an increase in outside threats? No idea as it’s too speculative.

  • A. Levy

    QUOTABLE QUOTES
    “I was in Australia earlier this month and there, as elsewhere on my recent travels, the consensus among the politicians I met (at least in private) was that Washington lacked the will for meaningful course correction, and that, therefore, the trick was to ensure that, when the behemoth goes over the cliff, you’re not dragged down with it. It is faintly surreal to be sitting in paneled offices lined by formal portraits listening to eminent persons who assume the collapse of the dominant global power is a fait accompli. “I don’t feel America is quite a First World country anymore,” a robustly pro-American Aussie told me, with a sigh of regret…” -– Mark Steyn

  • lao

    I had no idea guns were useful protection against hurricanes.

  • AC

    I put better locks on my house after a B&E. I was severely annoyed by some expensive vandalism to my property, but apart from being there to see it happen there’s no precaution I could have taken. How would I react to an increase in outside threats? No idea as it’s too speculative.

    Vandalism and theft are annoying, but had you been there, you could have been hurt or killed. Would you have felt safer having a firearm handy in case the intruder means you harm?

    I had no idea guns were useful protection against hurricanes.

    Guns are useful protection against criminals who feel emboldened by a breakdown in society and who see opportunity when authorities are too busy responding to the disaster to conduct normal policing activities.

    Looting and crime does spike following a hurricane. The authorities will be too busy responding to the disaster to respond to a burglary in progress.

  • Bob Roberts

    OK lao, time to let you off the hook.

    But you owe me an apology, again, not that I’ll ever get it.

    You are correct that I said, ” lao and the other agitating moonbats currently calling for Zimmerman’s head?”

    And you, proving once again what a narcissistic megalomaniac, who always thinks EVERYTHING IS ABOUT HIM, when it CLEARLY ISN’T, said, “You quite clearly lump me in with “other agitating moonbats” and you did it deliberately.”

    True, actually. I did indeed lump you in with “the other agitating moonbats calling for Zimmerman’s head”!

    Are you starting to get it now?

    Clearly you flunked English Grammar.

    CLEARLY you are so in need of attention you see everything in terms of you.

    The way I lumped you in with “the other agitating moonbats calling for Zimmerman’s head” was not to suggest you are calling for Zimmerman’s head – YOU ONLY IMAGINED I SAID THAT ABOUT YOU. I said that about THEM. What I said was that if he (Zimmerman) is exhonerated both lao AND (note that we’re not talking about lao any more here, I already dealt with lao, now I’m talking about a completely different group) the other agitating moonbats, the ones calling for Zimmerman’s head (See my other posts which lao loves to belittle because he cannot understand them so he attacks them), they, along with lao, would not be satisfied.

    Because, deep down, they’re racist, bigoted and wrong-headed and have this burning need to turn everything into a racial, political fight.

  • lao

    I know what you meant re hurricanes, I was just joshing you.

    As for “could have been hurt” I could have been hurt in any number of ways pretty much any day last week. Fortunately, I live in a community where danger from others is minimal.

  • Bob Roberts

    AC says: March 25, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    ———
    Or, worse, an attempted rape, an attempted murder…

    It was more than just the fact the authorities were busy – they simply could not get to some places in time to stop crime so the people who were armed did it for them and the people who weren’t became victims of it.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 25, 2012 at 9:49 pm
    Fortunately, I live in a community where danger from others is minimal.
    ———————
    They don’t allow people to have sharp objects in the padded cell ward where lao spends his time.

  • lao

    Surreal indeed.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 25, 2012 at 9:49 pm
    I could have been hurt in any number of ways pretty much any day last week.
    —————–
    Yeah, lao, we know… that’s why they make you wear that silly helmet, those knee and elbow pads and they don’t let you have sharp objects or things small enough for you to start to swallow but not finish.

  • AC

    As for “could have been hurt” I could have been hurt in any number of ways pretty much any day last week. Fortunately, I live in a community where danger from others is minimal.

    You were a burglary victim. Had the timing been altered slightly, you would have been confronted by a felon. What is a couple hundred dollars in the grand scheme of things in insurance to protect your bodily integrity?

    I think you can’t bring yourself to admit that good people have good reasons to own firearms.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 25, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    lao says: March 25, 2012 at 9:50 pm
    —————-
    This space would be a lot less surreal if you would stop spending time in it.

    Just a thought.

    AC says: March 25, 2012 at 9:31 pm
    Notice how lao ignores the inconvenient questions.
    —————
    He’s much too busy lying about what I said to try and prove I’m lying to bother with our inconvenient questions.

  • Bob Roberts

    Bob Roberts says: March 25, 2012 at 9:51 pm
    —————–
    Oh, when I said, “…things small enough for you to start to swallow but not finish”, I left off the last two word sentence of the post so I’ll share them now:

    Pity that!

  • lao

    If someone wants a firearm, that’s their choice, I have no problem with that.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 25, 2012 at 9:55 pm
    If someone wants a firearm, that’s their choice, I have no problem with that.
    ——————–
    So would it be fair to say that you support legislation that makes gun ownership simpler, easier, cheaper and oppose legislation that makes gun ownership more difficult, more expensive, more complicated?

    It’s a simple question – can you answer it yes or no?

  • AC

    What about an EBR? A high capacity handgun? A class III item?

    Regardless, the question wasn’t about “them.” It was about you. You seem content burying your head in the sand and letting the chips fall where they may, rather than taking proactive measures to improve your own safety. You may not believe it, but if you were local to this mess, I would happily lend you a firearm until the mess blew over. I believe in what the Second Amendment stands for. Law abiding people should not have to be come victims at the hands of violent felons.

  • lao

    I’m not getting into a gun debate, so sorry.

    bobby, you have no credibility to ask me anything.

  • Jim

    You have to hand it to the guy who thought of this ad…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxK5z1a7AKU

  • Joe Casepack

    We have the first documented payback killing of a white person for Trayvon. And not being reported on the USA media including FOX which is no big surprise.

    Last night dailymail.co.uk reported the death of an unidentified 21 yr-old male shot and killed by 3 black males who took off in a dark blue Crown Vic and today they are simply reporting that 3 unidentified males took off with no reference to their race.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120082/Male-student-shot-dead-Mississippi-university-campus.html

    Obama, Sharpton, Jackson, Black Panthers and all the usually racists have been hoping for riots and the start of a race war and now someone has been killed because of their hate.

    Yeah, this is not the Hope and Change most people who voted for this racist were hoping for.

  • http://www.grannyjanandjihadkitty.com/ Granny Jan

    I think we might need a caption contest for this photo of Obama and Medvedev in Seoul:
    http://news.daylife.com/photo/0dQt8EQ8RXaWD?__site=daylife&q=barack+obama

    I’m at a loss for words but could BHO possibly have held his chin up in the air any higher? Even Medvedev is sceptical.

  • http://genelalor.com berlet98

    Obama’s Little Mind

    “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” (Ralph Waldo Emerson)

    As the Supreme Court prepares to hear arguments on the constitutionality of Obamacare, it’s fitting to consider the quality of the mind of the person who proposed and foisted that abominable legislation on the American people.

    Before, during, and following the last presidential campaign, Barack Hussein Obama was presented to the American people and the planet as a scholarly, articulate, and charismatic savior who would masterfully lead and transform the nation and restore respect for America in the collective eyes of the rest of the world.

    During his relatively brief tenure as the most powerful man in the universe, the president has indeed transformed the United States, although his version of change hasn’t been what most Americans expected.

    Obama has transformed the economy into a virtual basket case, has created deficits and national debts which our children and grandchildren will be repaying throughout their lives, has been a simpering apologist for America’s exceptionalism, and has turned America into an international joke.

    If upheld by SCOTUS, the Affordable Health Care for America Act will simply be the capstone of Obama’s socialistic policies, if not the gravestone for America’s economic viability.

    And, all because Obama was misrepresented as a brilliant mind, a “constitutional scholar,” who would lead the country into the future while he leads us into Third World oblivion and ignores the Constitution.

    Those millions of voters who saw through the charlatan candidate and resisted the urge to vote for him out of a sense of black pride or misplaced white guilt knew all along he was absurdly unqualified and inexperienced to serve as chief executive and commander-in-chief. We were more amazed that more foreigners seemed to be taken in by him than the 69,456,897 who cast their ballots for him in 2008.

    Barack Obama may yet be re-elected in November by the same sheeple who fell for his empty promises of change last time around but many foreigners have long since seen through his vacuousness, have noticed the gaffe-prone “scholar” is even dumber than George W. Bush was reputed to be, and have come to the realization that, absent his trusty teleprompters, Obama is a braindead dolt who can only repeat hollow words and phrases.

    Thomas Buch-Andersen, host of the Danish TV show Detektor, is one European who dared to buck the conventional wisdom that Obama can think on his own, devoid of scripted inanities dictated by his handlers

    Buch-Anderson recently pointed out that Obama consistently uses the same trite, meaningless terminology when speaking to leaders of every ally who visits the White House. . . (Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=19101.)

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 25, 2012 at 10:04 pm
    ————————
    HAH! Knew it.

    Nobody asked you to “get into a debate”.

    It was a simple YES or NO question, to verify if your earlier post was TRUTH or LIE. Your refusal to answer can only mean that to answer would have revealed your earlier post to be A LIE.

    Your opinion as to MY credibility is irrelevant and immaterial. You don’t have enough credibility to comment on my credibility.

  • Bob Roberts

    Granny Jan says: March 25, 2012 at 10:30 pm
    could BHO possibly have held his chin up in the air any higher?
    ————
    Well, at least he’s not BOWING again…

  • Bob Roberts
  • Bob Roberts

    It has started. Obama’s race war. They’re keeping it quiet, though. As long as the perps are black and the victims white, they won’t report the races.

  • Bob Roberts
  • Bill T

    Race baiter jessie DaPug steps in
    Speaking at the Macedonia Missionary Baptist Church in Eatonville, Florida, the Rev. Jesse Jackson said: “If it’s a moment, we go home. If it’s a movement, we go to war. There is power in the blood of the innocent. Blacks are under attack.”
    http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/21007040442597/churches-amplify-call-for-justice-for-trayvon/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120096/Trayvon-Martin-case-Friend-Zimmerman-identifies-Neighbourhood-Watch-captain-screaming-help-911-call.html

  • Bob Roberts

    Oh, one more thing, I almost forgot. Regarding lao’s post at the top of this thread, which is odd, actually, here it is in full:

    lao says: March 25, 2012 at 7:20 pm
    Iraqi mother of five found severely beaten in California home dies

    A 32-year-old woman from Iraq who was found severely beaten next to a threatening note saying “go back to your country, you terrorist.” died on Saturday.

    The family had been living in the country since the mid 90′s.
    —————
    I love how lao uses FOX NEWS whenever possible. But, of course, let one of us use it and he’ll be questioning our credibility and that of our sources.

    First, no doubt lao picked up on this because of this sentence:

    “Hanif Mohebi, the director of… the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said he met with Shaima Alawadi’s family members in the morning and was told that she was taken off life support around 3 p.m.”

    Now he may, or may not, have noticed this bit:

    “…the family’s house in El Cajon.”

    And this bit:

    “The family had lived in the house… for only a few weeks, after moving from Michigan.”

    Note I clearly left something out of that and another quote. The same thing lao sort of glosses over, in his usual style, not coming right out and saying what he’s implying.

    What I left out of the first quote was:

    “the San Diego chapter of”

    and what I left out of the second was:

    “in San Diego County”.

    Notice how lao is taking a special interest in San Diego lately?

    It’s a nice place to visit and if you come you WILL want to live her. Especially in La Jolla – it is TRULY amazing.

    Anyway, I’m interested in why lao is suddenly so interested in stories that mention San Diego.

    What’s your point, lao? That El Cajon (NOT San Diego) has racists & bigots, many of them “people of color”, who might not take kindly to “others” moving into the neighborhood?

    Another geography lesson is clearly required here: As the crow flies, it’s about 18.5 miles from El Cajon to La Jolla. By road it’s farther due to terrain and such.

    There was a recent story about a raid on the “Hells Angels” house in El Cajon. I wonder if they were involved in this? They’re the type that would do something like this. They also don’t like ladyboys, lao, so if I were you I wouldn’t come nosing around there.

    Perhaps lao also is deliberately avoiding mentioning recent stories about Iraqi conflicts that have migrated here along with the Iraqi nationals. You know, some of the criminal types who “had an understanding” with Saddam and figured they could just do business the same here – such that they might murder a potential rival’s wife to send a message – and of course to throw the authorities off, what would be better than to plant a few fake notes?

  • Bob Roberts

    Plus, good old “one dimensional lao” apparently missed MY first post at the top of the thread:

    Bob Roberts says: March 25, 2012 at 7:20 pm
    Muslim “How To” manual: Book tells Muslim men how to beat and control their wives
    ————————
    What better way for an Iraqi man who needs to get rid of his wife to do it than by making it look like a hate crime?

    You know, I probably know no more (and certainly know no less) about this matter than lao.

    But at least I’m not as dumb as he is, jumping to conclusions, based on very little evidence, as usual.

  • Ummah Gummah

    .

    I don’t know why anyone bothers to engage laopus in any meaningful way.

    The troll is acting increasingly demanding and bossy.

    WTF

    The troll laopus is getting way head of himself.

    Second, his non-story about the dead iraqi woman in LA is obviously an honor killing being covered up with a “racist” note.

    As soon as that becomes more evident the “story” will never ever see an ounce of daylight.

    Can’t have people learning about honor killings and taqiyya no can we?

    .

  • Ummah Gummah

    .

    laopus, it’s NONYA what another poster on Moonbattery does to his house. With his own funds.

    I hate all of you meddlesome busybody LIEberals.

    MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS.

    .

  • FrankW

    I’ll take the lao approach a different direction.
    I will see your hate crime (that term still sucks, why is a hate crime murder worse than a murder, more dead?), and raise you muzzie honor killing (a crime that involves muzzie sanctioned hate).
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/02/arizona-islamic-honor-beating-now-tied-to-whole-family.html
    http://frontpagemag.com/2012/03/05/islamic-honor-murder-and-leftist-silence-1-1/

  • FrankW

    lao may be technically right while still being full of crap in the whole. He posts, yet expects others to believe that what he posts is not a reflection of what he believes or that his post is not in accordance with his position on subjects. To paraphrase a famous liberal (pickup) line, to accept lao as he expects us to requires the willing suspension of disbelief.

  • IslandLifer

    Sturm, Ruger, and Co. not taking any new orders:
    http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-03/D9TLOQH00.htm

  • IslandLifer
  • StanInTexas

    Last week, I tried to ask Lao this question. At the conclusion of the investigation in the Martin shooting, if Zimmerman was found to have acted properly and Martin was the aggressor; would you accept the verdict and move on.

    Lao REPEATEDLY refused to answer. After reading his rantings on this post, it is clear WHY he will not answer.

    Lao and his Liberal ilk will not be satisfied in this case until Zimmerman is tried, convicted, and severely punished, even executed. Lao knows this and knows he cannot say he would be satisfied.

    It is a sad commentary on our country that we have gotten so far down the road of Political Correctness that truth and facts and what is right have to take a back-seat to racism and politics.

  • StanInTexas

    And apparently, in between holding rallys where they chant “NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE”, the New Black Panther party has put out a bounty for the capture and killing of George Zimmerman…
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/new-black-panthers-offer-bounty-for-capture-of-george-zimmerman/

    Not sure why they need to do that, as Spike Lee is reTweeting Zimmermans home address…
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/spike-lee-retweets-george-zimmermans-home-address-twice/

    Behold the paragons of peace and virtue.

  • Festivus

    lao is not your garden variety liberal seeking to engage in political debates about current events. He is either an operative or a wannabe.

    He is using this blog mainly to disseminate the leftist message. He is not interested in a good faith debate. More often now, he is on the attack (like in this thread) rather than responding.

    Then, when engaged, he sticks to a rather narrowly defined debate construct which he dictates so that no one will stray off message.

  • http://www.drsheilaherenow.net/index.htm/ DrSheilahere

    LOL. Obama’s kid could look like Justin Bieber. His mother was white. Obama is half white. He is an absolute disgrace. Personally and presidentially reprehensible.

  • lao

    Re frank, in the middle of the night. (lao) posts, yet expects others to believe that what he posts is not a reflection of what he believes or that his post is not in accordance with his position on subjects.

    How did I demonstrate “expects others to believe”??

    I’ve never claimed to be completely neutral in selecting the links that I post here. My commentary reflects my understanding and beliefs on subjects. Is anyone else here any different?

    Re the murdered Muslim mom link at the top, obviously what caught my eye re this tragedy was what was alleged to be written on a hand-written note left beside her body.

    Given that information alone, it’s obviously the kind of news that moonbattery could be expected to ignore, particularly given the unrelenting attacks against Muslims that ARE featured here.

    nobody @8:19, immediately jumped to suggesting an honor killing and suggested CAIR was implicated.

    The note could very well be a deliberate false lead to steer suspicion away from the actual murderer.

    Like the Trayvon Martin case, I’ll await the results of official investigations without resorting to Trial By Blog which seems to be the preferred conservative approach.

  • Festivus

    lao says: March 26, 2012 at 8:04 am

    Given that information alone, it’s obviously the kind of news that moonbattery could be expected to ignore, particularly given the unrelenting attacks against Muslims that ARE featured here.

    So, he will exact a measure of balance by using this blog to spread his unsolocited leftist message. That message, of course, is that this woman was murdered by a right wing hater.

    But, of course, he’ll await the results of the investigation before jumping to any conclusions.

    It’s the same kind of psy-ops strategy that was employed in the crosshairs episode. A month of sprinkling thread after thread with implications about the crosshairs while at the same time trying to deny that he was making any sort of association.

    Think submliminal messaging.

  • Bob Roberts

    StanInTexas says: March 26, 2012 at 5:59 am
    ———-
    Careful, even if lao’s twisted, minimal understanding of English Grammar leads him to conclude you’re claiming he’s out for Zimmerman’s blood or whatnot, he’ll start attacking you directly and lose his focus on attacking Zimmerman.

    Indeed the whole reason lao started attacking me is more than likely guilty knowledge – though I’ll be the first to say he hasn’t voiced it directly, I see I’m not alone in understanding that lao isn’t just knee-jerk posting here – he CLEARLY has an agenda. And it’s not that hard to figure out what it is.

    In his most recent post (March 26, 2012 at 8:04 am), lao slips up. Oh, sure, he ADMITS, “I’ve never claimed to be completely neutral in selecting the links that I post here. My commentary reflects my understanding and beliefs on subjects. Is anyone else here any different?”

    He leaves out WHAT ELSE his posts reveal.

    Desire.

    He may not get it and I’m not going to encourage him to go off on another tear whining about what I’m saying so we’ll just let him go with that much and see where HE leads US.

    And lao, poor lao, may be making progress, FOR HE ADMITS HE MAY HAVE JUMPED TO A CONCLUSION AND MISSED THE OBVIOUS:

    Re the murdered Muslim mom link at the top, obviously what caught my eye re this tragedy was what was alleged to be written on a hand-written note left beside her body. Given that information alone, it’s obviously the kind of news that moonbattery could be expected to ignore, particularly given the unrelenting attacks against Muslims that ARE featured here. The note could very well be a deliberate false lead to steer suspicion away from the actual murderer.

    —————-
    You know, if he had left it at that, my reaction would have been that perhaps lao is showing the first sign of growing beyond his typical one-dimensional thinking. I would say that perhaps we’re rubbing off on him, perhaps his coming here is not a complete waste after all.

    But, of course, he had to ruin it with these two things:

    “Given that information alone, it’s obviously the kind of news that moonbattery could be expected to ignore, particularly given the unrelenting attacks against Muslims that ARE featured here.”
    —————–
    Obviously he got that one completely wrong, using the word “AGAINST” where the word “BY” belongs.

    Then there’s this one:

    “Like the Trayvon Martin case, I’ll await the results of official investigations without resorting to Trial By Blog which seems to be the preferred conservative approach.”
    ——————
    Poor lao, reverts to his usual lying type. Going back to his earlier BLATANT ADMISSION of the truth, we see he’s contradicted himself, AGAIN:

    “I’ve never claimed to be completely neutral in selecting the links that I post here.”
    ———————
    So, to sum up: We all note how blatantly lao engages, routinely, in “Trial By Blog” and how much energy he’s been doing so with the Zimmerman case even as he claims he is instead going to “await the results of the official investigations” – rather his posts are carefully selected to put Zimmerman in the worst light and to attempt to whip up emotion and sway opinion based not on facts, consideration and discussion of which he considers to be “prattling”, but rather on emotions.

    And note where lao states:

    “nobody @8:19, immediately jumped to suggesting an honor killing and suggested CAIR was implicated.”

    Again lao seems to rush AWAY from the facts. “nobody @ 8:19″ merely made an interesting observation: HE did not implicate CAIR – they implicated themselves by being magically on the scene and directly involved before even the police could secure the note plus, oddly enough, their is a claim of another, earlier note that, inexplicably, was not reported or given to the police.

    Now I’m sure lao wouldn’t find that odd. Given his proclivities, I mean.

    But yes, there is yet another angle of this case that lao thinks, “If I just scoff loud and repeatedly at this maybe people won’t notice it and consider it any more” or some such.

    Considering the right-wing bashing that is the preferred lao approach, is this any big surprise?

  • lao

    festus opines: (lao) is not interested in a good faith debate.

    Can you seriously read bobby’s “debate” tactics above and claim he IS engaging in “good faith debate”?

    Look at his pathetic obfuscation and excuses over claiming I said something I didn’t once I called his silly bluff.

    Check out this later example:

    bobby @12:27 am What better way for an Iraqi man who needs to get rid of his wife to do it than by making it look like a hate crime?

    You know, I probably know no more (and certainly know no less) about this matter than lao.

    But at least I’m not as dumb as he is, jumping to conclusions, based on very little evidence, as usual.

    Exactly at what time did I “jump to conclusions” about this case?

    There’s bobby’s debate style in a NUT shell. Whine about something I never said.

    festus takes the same tack: That message, of course, is that this woman was murdered by a right wing hater.

    I said NOTHING about who the murderer was, I simply quoted what was in the news item.

    I’ve already raised the possibility that the note was phony.

    But I am used to conservatives immediately leaping to the defense of their side, even when no defense is necessary.

  • Bob Roberts

    Festivus says: March 26, 2012 at 8:18 am
    ————–
    Whoever is paying lao to waste our time and his effort here is clueless. As your post (and others) show, we’re onto him and have been virtually from the start.

  • Bob Roberts

    The fix is in! At least, Obama thinks so. CHECK OUT WHAT HE’S SAYING!

    I’m going to “interpret” for Obama. What he actually said was:

    ‘AFTER MY ELECTION I HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY’

    So basically what he’s saying is:

    “I can’t do what I really want now because, if I do, the people won’t vote for me. So if you’ll just wait until I fool enough of the people one more time, and until all those working to manufacture extra votes for me succeed, I can give you everything you want & more.”

  • Festivus

    This will be a pointless question, as lao will most likely not answer it (at least truthfully).

    Would you care to explain why you made that post with the link to the article (the very first one in the thread), lao?

  • lao

    Again lao seems to rush AWAY from the facts. “nobody @ 8:19″ merely made an interesting observation: HE did not implicate CAIR – they implicated themselves by being magically on the scene and directly involved before even the police could secure the note plus, oddly enough, their is a claim of another, earlier note that, inexplicably, was not reported or given to the police.

    You might note I challenged nobody to back up that claim with a link. He refused. If you have a link, feel free to present it.

    Far from being “inexplicable” the family reaction to the earlier note was explained quite clearly.

    Police said the family had found a similar note earlier this month but did not report it to authorities.

    Al Himidi told KGTV-TV her mother dismissed the first note, found outside the home, as a child’s prank.

  • lao

    I already explained festus. See my post @8:04.

  • Festivus

    See what I mean?

  • StanInTexas

    Festivus, please remember that Lao has his own rules for debate that apply ONLY to him and no one else.

    So when he demands proof on top of proof of anything you or I say, that in no way applies to him.

    And now he has become so afraid of me pointing out this obvious fact that he is not pretending my posts do not exist.

  • lao

    bobby reveals all. I’m going to “interpret” for Obama. What he actually said was: ‘AFTER MY ELECTION I HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY’

    So basically what he’s saying is: yada, yada, yada.

    Amazingly enough, conservatives like bobby believe that their “interpretation” is reality.

    This bizarre disconnect explains all of bobby’s claims about what I have supposedly said or believe. It’s all HIS “interpretation” and he could care less about what was ACTUALLY said.

    This phenomenon occurs here on a regular basis. stanwee, fibby, kHARn and festus are also regular practitioners.

  • StanInTexas

    This phenomenon occurs here on a regular basis. stanwee, fibby, kHARn and festus are also regular practitioners.

    See what I mean Festivus. Lao already KNOWS what Zimmerman was thinking and that he MUST be guilty, and DESERVES to be punished. Yet as more FACTS come out, Matin looks more and more to be the aggressor.

    This is why Loa cannot answer my question to him about accepting that Martin may have been the aggresor and Zimmerman may have been justified in shooting him.

  • Bob Roberts

    Indeed here is a taste of the election fraud to come:

    WaPo post was putting those who registered a “NO” vote on obamacare in the YES column!

    They were caught and they fixed it, issuing this update notice:

    Note: Because of a technical glitch, comments on this page originally were not appearing in the “No” column. They have been restored to the proper category.

    Liberal judges will vote in lockstep while GOP judges will look to Constitution and actually DO THEIR JOB:

    A curious thing about this week’s Supreme Court hearings on President Obama’s health care law is that while nobody doubts how the four Democrat-appointed justices will decide, there is no such certainty on how the Republican appointees will rule in the case, which will go a long way toward defining the scope and limits of government power in the 21st century.

    For the past 70 years, liberal-minded justices have taken more uniform views of how far federal power extends while the lines are much more jumbled when it comes to conservative jurisprudence, court watchers say.

    Virtually everyone agrees that the four Democrat-appointed justices will move to uphold the law. Few doubt that Justices Sonya Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, appointed by Mr. Obama, will join Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer, appointed by President Clinton, in upholding as constitutional the mandate that individuals obtain medical insurance and the massive Medicaid expansion.

    But among the five other justices, conservative stalwart Clarence Thomas is the only one viewed as a sure vote against the mandate and possibly other parts of the law.

    ———————

    Not sure why they think Thomas is a “sure thing” other than they’re admitting they know that the law is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and MUST BE STRUCK DOWN.

    It’s good to see not all people are rushing to judgement like lao and his ilk: Black friend defends shooter of Florida teen – George Zimmerman is not a racist and cried for days after shooting dead a black Florida teenager, a black, longtime friend of Zimmerman said on Sunday in a sympathetic portrayal of a man maligned by critics as a trigger-happy bigot.

    Of course lao jumped to conclusions this guy was some right wing bigoted white guy and couldn’t wait to post all sorts of nonsense against him. So even the facts, which some of us seem to be unable to stop “prattling on about”, that he was NOT white and NOT necessarily a right wing/conservative and, most of all, NOT A RACIST BIGOT, don’t stop lao – he’s going full speed ahead with his usual nonsense, not letting the facts get in his way or be part of his considerations.

    Facts like THIS don’t even register with lao:

    “I’m a black male and all that I know is that George has never given me any reason whatsoever to believe he has anything against people of color,” Oliver said.
    ——————
    Facts, truth and logic don’t matter to people like lao.

    Only outcomes.

    Obama felt the need to get directly involved in the Zimmerman/Martin case, but will he comment on the Mississippi State murder?

    In the Zimmerman/Martin case there’s fairly overwhelming evidence that Martin was attacking Zimmerman and Zimmerman defended himself with tragic results.

    In the MSU case, “Three African American male suspects reportedly fled the scene in a blue Crown Victoria.”

    So here we CLEARLY have a case of black on white crime and what looks like a murder where an argument of self-defense does not appear to be valid, at least at this point.

    Why isn’t lao demanding justice in THIS case?

    Why isn’t the President?

    They’re both silent.

    Why?

    Aren’t they consistent?

    Silly me, to ask that question. We already know the answer! The victim wasn’t the right color in this case and neither were the apparent perps!

  • Bob Roberts

    Moonbat walks into plate glass door, demands a million for her mistake! You can’t make this stuff up! All over the nation, businesses have glass walls and doors.

    Her suit claims that “The defendant was negligent . . . in allowing a clear, see-through glass wall and/or door to exist without proper warning.”

    Maybe she should consider not going out if she can’t handle it without hurting herself.

    WHAT NONSENSE!

  • lao

    LOL, bobby once again tries death by alphabet overload. I expect we’ll see more. I’m making a coffee.

  • Bob Roberts

    Obama seeks advice on raising girls from Turkey’s Islamist prime minister.

    Turkey’s Islamist prime minister recommends a book to him – says similar techniques work on daughters.

    Here are some passages:

    In the book’s opening pages, it is written that “it might be necessary to restrain her with strength or even to threaten her.”

    Later, its author advises that “the husband should treat the wife with kindness and love, even if she tends to be stupid and slow sometimes.”

    Page 45 contains the rights of the husband, which include his wife’s inability to leave “his house without his permission,” and that his wife must “fulfil his desires” and “not allow herself to be untidy … but should beautify herself for him … ”

    In terms of physical punishment, the book advises that a husband may scold her, “beat by hand or stick,” withhold money from her or “pull (her) by the ears,” but should “refrain from beating her excessively.”

  • Bob Roberts

    OOPS, according to lao, that last post is an “attack on muslims”.

    yeahRITE. Truth is an attack. Facts are an attack. Only in the surreal world of lao.

  • lao

    stanwee provides his example of “interpretation disconnect”:

    Lao already KNOWS what Zimmerman was thinking and that he MUST be guilty, and DESERVES to be punished.

    Like bobby before you, I challenge you to produce a quote of mine that demonstrates that claim.

    Needless to say, none will be forthcoming.

  • StanInTexas

    Oh, so we should ignore posts that LAO considers too long? Interesting standard. I will file this next to Lao’s demand that we ignore philosophy’s that are more than 40 years old.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, I am still waiting for an answer to my question to you from friday, when you pretended to be ignoreing me.

    Again proving my point of your double standards for debate!

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 26, 2012 at 8:49 am
    —————

    In this post lao reveals his discontent that there are people here who get things right where he usually gets them wrong and he really doesn’t like that, nor does he like to admit it.

    One of those who values “consensus”, he admits he’s on the wrong side of it, inadvertently. Maybe that coffee he talks about in his next post will wake him up enough to realize how deep the hole he’s dug for himself is?

    Alphabet overload? You seriously feel threatened by words, lao? That why you’re running away and trying to stifle me by suggesting I might post again? Has that ever worked before, lao? Do you think I care that you predict I will post again? Do you REALLY think saying that will stifle me?

    You are a lunatic, thanks for proving it.

    Again.

  • lao

    You actually think I believe I can achieve “consensus” for my ideas on THIS blog? Hilarious.

    I’m getting to your most recent monster post bobby…as I said, I wanted a coffee first.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 26, 2012 at 9:05 am
    ——————
    LOL we already PROVED that lao merely MISINTERPRETED what I said (exactly what he’s trying to say I do about him & about Obama, but CLEARLY he’s wrong about that) and he’s still going on about it.

    So, let’s revisit, one last time:

    I said,

    “But, should a charge be filed, a trial be held and a jury comes back and says NOT GUILTY, will that be enough for lao and the other agitating moonbats currently calling for Zimmerman’s head?”

    CLEARLY I was “lumping lao in” with those “other agitating moonbats” who would not be happy, who would not let it go, should Zimmerman actually go to trial and be acquitted. Those “agitating moonbats” who, even now, are screaming for Zimmerman’s blood & head, offering rewards, forming lynch mobs, though they call them “militias”.

    I never, ever, even once, said that lao was “calling for Zimmerman’s head” yet he STILL is claiming that!

    I am beginning to think lao, as part of his distraction toolbox, trolls this site looking for things he can DELIBERATELY misinterpret and misrepresent.

    So, lao, are you going to continue to lie & make a fool of yourself doing it? Or are you going to come join the adults in a logical, factual, HONEST conversation?

    The fact Blount lets you come here shows that we, unlike your ilk, will tolerate a juvenile, lying, whimpering piece of scum in hopes you might just learn something here. No, that can’t be it – you’ve proven time and time again you’re incapable.

    So, I admit, I don’t know why he tolerates you, but he does. To demonstrate daily he’s better man than you and your ilk perhaps?

  • Bob Roberts

    Hey lao, thought you were going for coffee. Lied again, huh?

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 26, 2012 at 9:14 am
    You actually think I believe I can achieve “consensus” for my ideas on THIS blog? Hilarious.
    ——————–
    LOL! That’s my point, lao. Thanks for underlining it by getting it TOTALLY BACKWARDS!

    Seriously, why do you come here? What on EARTH do you hope to accomplish? They really aren’t paying you enough, you know. Nobody should make a fool of themselves so repeatedly and completely, not for any amount of money!

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, we have a hard time deciding what you beleive on pretty much ANY subject, as you have a habit of taking both sides of every issue and then claiming that WE have issues with interpretation.

    On behalf of the many thinking and honest posters here, may I be the first to say…

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
    laughing AT you, not with you!

  • lao

    bobby “interprets” It’s good to see not all people are rushing to judgement like lao and his ilk.

    Of course lao jumped to conclusions this guy was some right wing bigoted white guy and couldn’t wait to post all sorts of nonsense against him.

    (lao)’s going full speed ahead with his usual nonsense, not letting the facts get in his way or be part of his considerations.

    Facts, truth and logic don’t matter to people like lao.

    Wonderful.

    Show your commitment to “truth and logic” by providing quotes of mine, with date and time, that demonstrate the truth of any of your claims.

  • Jim

    Expect the Russians to support reelection…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ9_aqzbpDg

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, what don’t YOU show your supposed commitment to honest debnate by answering the questions that are put to you and providing the proof YOU have been asked for?

  • lao

    As I predicted stanwee, you can’t walk your own walk.

  • http://www.henrypbabcock.com Henry
  • Tim from TK

    Lao sez:

    “But at least I’m not as dumb as he is, jumping to conclusions, based on very little evidence, as usual.”

    True, you do not “jump” to conclusions, as that would imply starting from a neutral position, something you never had, or will have, as you vibrate between predetermined (and/or dictated) left and far left positions and conclusions.

  • Lazlo

    The score thus far:
    Lao tries to put a positive spin on his involvement in a lynch mob. No one buys it. He gets angry.

  • StanInTexas

    Still waiting on you to answer my question FROM FRIDAY, Lao.

    Stop demanding of others what you refuse to provide yourself!

  • lao

    There’s that persistent whining again…time to turn up the music.

  • StanInTexas

    …as exoected, Lao.

    Keep this in mind the next time you are whining because no one will answer your insipid questions.

  • lao

    timmy, the quote you appear to attribute to me was made by bobby @12:27 am.

  • wingmann

    Granny Jan says:
    March 25, 2012 at 10:30 pm I think we might need a caption contest for this photo of Obama and Medvedev in Seoul:

    _______________________________________________________

    Medvedev:
    This is the president of the USA?This guy,really…THIS GUY?That’s a good one.This guy really isn’t the prez IS HE?
    So you are not joking…THIS is the president of the USA? This should be easy. “AAH-HMMMM”.

    bHUSSEINo:
    I am the Duke…I’m A numba won.Look at me everyone.Watch as I part the sea of races in the USA!

    Hey bHUSSEINo,aka T O O L….JUST ONE THING TO SAY.

    You,deplete me.

  • lao

    Isn’t it amazing?

    Multiple conservatives make claims about what I have posted and NONE of them can actually provide a quote with date and time.

  • StanInTexas

    Isn’t it amazing.

    Loa is asked direct questions and asked for proof of his claims, which he either ignores or outright refuses. While at the same time Demanding THAT we jump up and respond to his every utterance!

    If only there was a word to describe such a behaviour!

  • TrickleUpPolitics

    Yawn, you let lao hijack the discussion again.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 26, 2012 at 9:22 am
    —————–
    As I’ve told you before, lao, you have no right nor credibility to demand anything from anyone here.

    But I’ll throw you a bone – pretty much ANY of your posts makes my case and destroys yours.

    Ask anyone here.

    lao says: March 26, 2012 at 9:33 am
    There’s that persistent whining again…time to turn up the music.
    ——————–
    Will turning up the music stop you from persistently whining?

    Doubt it.

    You’ll just whine louder!

    Why don’t you find SOMEWHERE ELSE to whine?

    lao says: March 26, 2012 at 9:42 am
    ——————
    How many times do we have to tell you – unlike you, were’re not puppets and we certainly aren’t YOUR puppet. I’ve told you SEVERAL times – you have no power here, no right to make demands and though you keep doing it anyway you only show your complete lunacy with your repeat posts thinking you can change that if you just draw attention to it!

    You’re making a fool of yourself! I hope they’re paying you enough to make it worthwhile!

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 26, 2012 at 9:14 am
    I’m getting to your most recent monster post bobby…as I said, I wanted a coffee first.
    ————-
    Surely you’ve got your coffee by now. I’m ready to cut your nonsense to pieces, or have you finally seen the light and decided to slink away on this one?

    Does your mom know you’re on the computer again and, if so, why hasn’t she made you go sit in the corner again?

  • Bob Roberts

    TrickleUpPolitics says: March 26, 2012 at 10:03 am
    Yawn, you let lao hijack the discussion again.
    —————-
    As long as he’s preoccupied here he’s not polluting other threads with his nonsense.

    Get with the program!

  • Tim from TK

    “lao says: March 26, 2012 at 9:02 am

    I’m making a coffee.”

    Excellent – you got a job ! “Barista” was pretty predictable, but it is a step in the right direction, and it does give you free wifi.

  • FrankW

    re: lao 8:04 am
    So is the issue me posting in the middle of the night, or is the issue the illumination (not that it was needed) of the debate style?
    If it is the middle of the night thing, tough cookies.
    If it is the illumination of your technique that has the left hand twist in your thong, then truth hurts don’t it.
    “How did I demonstrate “expects others to believe”??
    By requesting a quote about what you said instead of cowboying up and accepting ownership of the item you post. You infer without taking decisive positions. And when people infer as you want them to you then nitpick the inferences. Simply put this is how you work. I don’t have to explain it in detail, you have been dissected by those far more interested than I. Very politician of you. Kinda like herding cats made of Jello.

  • lao

    Re bobby @10:05

    If a demonstration was actually needed that you don’t remember what you write in your own posts, you just provided it.

    See my post @9:22.

  • wingmann

    StanInTexas says:
    March 26, 2012 at 9:45 am

    “If only there was a word to describe such a behaviour”
    ________________

    I’ll try…S O C I O P A T H.

  • lao

    Excuse me frankie?

    I’m quite happy to “accept ownership” of my actual words. To no avail, I have repeatedly challenged conservatives to actually quote them.

    When flakes claim I have posted and said something and that claim is an absolute fabrication, I will call it.

  • wingmann

    Back to open thread stuff: It’s Called Treason!!!

    http://www.opednews.com/populum/printer_friendly.php?content=a&id=147044

    The raft of legislation rammed through both houses of Congress since December 31st – with wide majority votes – nullifies every clause in the Bill of Rights. Every senator and congressperson who voted in favor of those bills violated his or her oath of office, the promise to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Congress just replaced the Rule of Law with rule by tyranny. They must all be fired.
    Starting with bHUSSEINo.

  • Tim from TK

    An actual demonstration of how lao posts:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H98BgRzpOM

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 26, 2012 at 9:22 am
    and
    lao says: March 26, 2012 at 10:10 am
    ———–
    My point was:

    That’s all you got?

    That’s the best you can do?

    LOL!

    Laughing at you, not with you.

    Even better was what Stan said @9:20:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

  • FrankW

    Quick question, who goes for “a coffee”? I get a cup of coffee, or I get coffee, but “a coffee”? Strange. I have never heard it phrased like that except in college by aloof liberals. But like Tim “infers”, given your liberal ideology (perceived, cause you never have given a quotable, explicit post identifying your positions) and general elite-ness, Starbucks may be a good fit for you. Apologies to Tim if I have mis-inferred his post.
    Maybe Dave needs a short questionnaire identifying your position on basic issues, then no one would need to infer. Based on your posts I would not identify you as a cookie cutter liberal, most libs waver on a few issues from the pure liberal faith. You appear to be more of an anti-conservative.

  • AC

    I’m not getting into a gun debate, so sorry.

    Because you’ve already lost.

  • Bob Roberts

    Tim – you sure you posted the right link?

    Seriously, while lao is a source of endless amusement (though it gets boring eventually), maybe we have to start dealing more actively with his trolling.

    How can troll posts be recognised?

    No Imagination – YEP, that’s lao, alright!
    Pedantic in the Extreme – lao again!
    False Identity – lao, but many people do that so it’s not diagnostic.
    Off-topic posting – Though he will deny it, lao!
    Missing The Point – Ah, here’s lao: Trolls rarely answer a direct question – they cannot, if asked to justify their twaddle – so they develop a fine line in missing the point.
    Thick or Sad – And, again, lao: Trolls are usually sad, lonely folk, with few social skills; they rarely make what most people would consider intelligent conversation. However, they frequently have an obsession with their IQ and feel the need to tell everyone. This is so frequent that it is diagnostic!

    This captures the essence of lao!

    By the way, lao even made a cartoon explaining why he’s so angry all the time!

  • Festivus

    Frank, the phrase was, “make a coffee,” which is to say it probably means brewing an espresso of some sort (I’m guessing a cappucino since they typically go into those sissy cups liberals think are so cool).

  • Tim from TK

    Bob Roberts: Pretty sure it is – spinning on more than one axis and always to the left.

  • lao

    (rolls eyes)

    Procedure in my house for “making a coffee”.

    Fill kettle and put it on the stove to boil.

    Clean the dregs of my first coffee out of my coffee cup. That cup, by the way, is a large, hand-crafted mug, given to me by a girlfriend and made and glazed by another friend.

    Clean the dregs of ground coffee beans out of my re-usable filter.

    Get fresh coffee beans and pour some into my mini-grinder.

    Grind the beans, not too much, not too little.

    Pour ground beans in the clean filter, amount is flexible.

    Set the filter on top of my clean cup.

    Pour boiling water into the ground beans in the filter.

    When filtering is complete, place the used filter in the sink.

    Take coffee to computer table, take a sip enjoy. Do this BEFORE reading bobby’s latest self-justifying screed to avoid blowing coffee on my monitor from laughing.

  • FrankW

    idk, I personally have not been to Starbucks but once, and I did a U-turn at the prices. $6.00 for a cup of coffee? Also I avoid place where I need to learn a new language to order a cup of coffee.
    As far as the “make a coffee” terminology goes, I just found it different.

  • Bob Roberts

    Tim from TK says: March 26, 2012 at 10:50 am
    Bob Roberts: Pretty sure it is – spinning on more than one axis and always to the left.
    ——-
    Ah, yes, was distracted, missed your point.

    lao says: March 26, 2012 at 10:57 am
    ——————–
    (This is lao speaking): I still regurgitate my food and drink onto my monitor all the time. And all over myself and my living space, which is why nobody ever comes to visit me any more. I had a girlfriend – at least I think it was a girl – once. Back in 1st grade she made me a coffee cup. That was back when they used lead paint on everything – which explains why I can’t keep my head above water when I attempt to discuss or debate things, so now I just avoid adult discussions and honest debates.

    (NOTE he says TAKE A SIP BEFORE… he’s confused as ever! He should have said, “Wait to sip after…”)

  • StanInTexas

    Bob, isn’t it interesting how Lao cannot answer simple yet direct questions put to him, but can make some mind-numbing “death by alphabet overload” screed about his coffee habits.

    The amusement never ends with this simpleton!

  • Tim from TK

    “lao says: March 26, 2012 at 10:57 am

    (rolls eyes)

    Procedure in my house for “making a coffee”.

    Captain Pretentious strikes again.

  • Jester

    Iraqi mother of five found severely beaten in California home dies

    I’ll be the first one to present the 800-lb-Gorilla-in-the-living-room argument.

  • FrankW

    Coffee making procedure at my place,
    drive by convenience store on way to work/home
    grab cup
    hit button to dispense coffee
    add cream/sugar
    give $2 to convenience store clerk, $4 if I get breakfast food
    drink (and drive)
    rinse out cup daily, wash weekly
    That concludes today’s issue of coffee porn, I hope the more barista’ly inclined have achieved personal bliss.

  • wingmann

    WTG all you race pimps,this is what you are stoking.
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/cracker-tshirt-759832

  • TaterSalad

    Is this Trayvon Obama? Where is Barack Obama now? He is so punctual for TV appearances on just about everything to make a point for campaigning in disguise but he is silent when the Black Panther Party is inciting riots and revenge along with Race Baiters Al & Jesse, better known these days as “Poverty Pimps”!

  • Bob Roberts

    StanInTexas says: March 26, 2012 at 11:03 am
    ————-
    You and I disagree occasionally, cordially, but on this we agree 100%!

  • Bob Roberts

    Truth sometimes comes from unexpected places. If he knew lao, he’d have “lumped him in” with the others – and no doubt lao would be calling HIM a liar, too.

    Trayvon decked Zimmerman then began hammering his head on sidewalk. The injuries on Zimmerman were consistent with this account and they support,
    fully, a defense of SELF-DEFENSE against ANY charges that ANYONE levels.

    But wait, THERE’S MORE!

    Evidence suggests Martin was a druggie. I wonder what he was on that night?

  • Sam Adams

    lao says:
    March 25, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Iraqi mother of five found severely beaten in California home dies

    A 32-year-old woman from Iraq who was found severely beaten next to a threatening note saying “go back to your country, you terrorist.” died on Saturday.
    _____________

    Simply put, this doesn’t pass the smell test. Are we supposed to believe that this is a ethnically motivated hate crime in the most liberal state in the nation? Is there an enclave of white supremacists holed up in San Diego?

    Why, too, would a woman be labeled as a terrorist? Surely there are plenty of young Iranian men who would better fit the description, and would convey a message more effectively if some hate group wanted to send a message.

    But in California????

    You can’t be serious.

    (BTW, if the Iranian woman had been packing heat, maybe the story would have had a much different ending).

  • lao

    I guess you missed the last line of that link,

    El Cajon, northeast of downtown San Diego, is home to some 40,000 Iraqi immigrants, the second largest such community in the U.S. after Detroit.

  • Sam Adams

    Are those Iraqi immigrants trying to assimilate into the US?

    Or are they creating their own little Middle Eastern enclave?

  • lao

    Are those immigrants any different from first generation Irish, or German or Italian immigrants who came to the U.S. and settled with “their” people?

  • Anne

    a Muslim nurse was too busy praying to attend to an elderly patient who had fallen

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/310069/310069

  • Sam Adams

    lao says:
    March 26, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Are those immigrants any different from first generation Irish, or German or Italian immigrants who came to the U.S. and settled with “their” people?
    ______________

    You mean those folks who were subjected to way more abuse, discrimination, and hate crimes than today’s immigrants will ever see?

  • FrankW

    Yes they are way different.
    When the Irish arrived they were in most cases worse than slaves. Could not be sold as slaves and a huge percentage of employers would not hire them. It was also illegal in many areas to give charity to the Irish.
    Germans were given somewhat better treatment, yet were encouraged not to settle on the east coast, that is why the Germans are found across the midwest and in Western PA.
    Italians had a difficult time with finding work as well. Especially those from Sardinia or Sicily.
    And these are the immigrants that were willing to assimilate. I come from Irish (mothers side) and Scandinavian (fathers side) stock and I was raised by my step father who was the son of a German immigrant. And my step fathers father spoke little English. He worked hard and learned English (mostly from reading the bible). He insisted his sons not have a heavy German accent. He would spin in his grave if he knew of all of these morons that use the hyphen to illustrate their preferred heritage.
    Yet modern immigrants do not desire to learn the language, ways or other aspects of being American. We capitulate to them by not requiring language, legal, or other assimilation. In short we make it too simple to be here. Where there is no shared sacrifice there is no unity.

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