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Mar 30 2012

The Real Trayvon Martin

In case you’re sick of being force-fed pictures from when he was 12 or the heavily photoshopped hoodie shot, here’s what Trayvon Martin really looked like:

trayvon_martin_twitter

He chose this to represent him on one of his Twitter feeds, where he called himself T33ZY_TAUGHT_M3 and encouraged one of his fellow thugs to commit murder with the tweet, “Plzz shoot da #mf dat lied 2 u!”

That they would try to deify this sociopathic punk and railroad a guy for defending himself against him tells you all you need to know about the evil lunatics running the “mainstream” media.

On tips from Bob Roberts, J, and Bassguy.

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  • Hail The Amberlamps!

    Isn’t stopping the Left’s favorite insurrectionists from redeploying to Sanford tomorrow.
    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/03/30/race-hustlers-al-sharpton-and-jesse-jackson-heading-back-to-florida-to-lead-trayvon-martin-protest/

  • cmon people

    Here is the part I don’t get…

    The real cops told Zimmerman not to follow Martin. Told him to back off. To stop what he was doing. He did not do so, and ended up shooting an unarmed guy. That’s the end of the story.

    The rest of this is all smoke and mirrors. In our society, we find it unacceptable to shoot unarmed people. We just do.

    A picture of a kid looking ‘tough’ is not, in fact, sufficient cause for a death sentence. No matter what the lunatic fringe seems to want to be the case.

    What part of that does not compute? (Error between keyboard and chair, I’m guessing…)

  • AC

    As long as the sheeple are busy reenacting the passion of Saint Skittles they aren’t paying attention to the miserable economy, the soaring debt, or the skyrocketing gas prices.

    Racial strife and civil unrest is an effective distraction from the failed policies of the Obama administration.

  • StanInTexas

    More discredited lies from cmon people. You really take the cake!

    First, it was a dispatcher that ADVISED Zimmerman not to follow Martin. It was NOT an order from “real cops”.

    Second, eyewitnesses have confirmed that Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him. No, Trayvon did not have “a gun”, but he was still armed and capable of inflicting injury or death.

    Interesting how you have no issue with an old picture of Zimmerman that misrepresents him, but seem to have an issue with CURRENT pictures of Trayvon.

    But if you did not have double standards, you’d have no standards AT ALL!

  • AC

    The real cops told Zimmerman not to follow Martin. Told him to back off. To stop what he was doing. He did not do so, and ended up shooting an unarmed guy. That’s the end of the story.

    The real cops can also tell a gaggle of filthy hippie Occupiers to leave a public sidewalk. That doesn’t mean they have to, so long as they aren’t obstructing it.

    The rest of this is all smoke and mirrors. In our society, we find it unacceptable to shoot unarmed people. We just do.

    Burglars are shot all the time. Whether they are armed or not is irrelevant.

    A picture of a kid looking ‘tough’ is not, in fact, sufficient cause for a death sentence. No matter what the lunatic fringe seems to want to be the case.

    Trayvon did more than look tough; he acted tough and very rough. He committed an unwarranted aggravated assault. Zimmerman was forced to use his weapon to terminate Trayvon’s felonious conduct.

  • Plug-in Lemon

    @cmon people

    Who said Zimmerman didn’t stop following him?
    Did Martin go after Zimmerman when he turned his back?
    Did Martin struggle for Zimmerman’s gun?

    The “part I don’t get” are all the facts.

  • AC

    The same laws which protect this protect Zimmerman’s right to use a sidewalk.

  • F.D.R. in Hell

    Progressive Rule #217…

    “If attacked by a group of thugs, only shoot the ones who are armed. Let the other beat you to a pulp.”

    Oh, yeah, that’ll work out well.

  • Truth

    “The real cops told Zimmerman not to follow Martin.”
    Wrong. A dispatcher is not a police officer, and the phrase “we don’t need you to do that” is not a command.

    “He did not do so, and ended up shooting an unarmed guy. That’s the end of the story.”
    It omits the middle of the story where Martin attacked Zimmerman.

    “In our society, we find it unacceptable to shoot unarmed people.”
    So if an unarmed thug was beating the living shit out of you, you wouldn’t use a gun in self-defense??
    I guess we see things differently, because I find it perfectly acceptable.

    “A picture of a kid looking ‘tough’ is not, in fact, sufficient cause for a death sentence.”
    This is a mindless statement of the obvious, and is not in dispute. No one has said that Martin should be killed because of his pics.
    Stop being an idiot.

  • Sam Adams

    cmon people says:
    March 30, 2012 at 8:17 am

    Here is the part I don’t get…

    The real cops told Zimmerman not to follow Martin. Told him to back off. To stop what he was doing. He did not do so, and ended up shooting an unarmed guy. That’s the end of the story.
    ________________

    Changing/ignoring facts, eh?

    Zimmerman was told “we don’t need you to do that” not to “back off.”

    An eye-witness reported seeing Treyvon on top of Zimmerman, with Zimmerman yelling for help. Zimmerman had blood coming from his nose and from the back of his head, and the back of his sweater had grass stains.

    I don’t know how Treyvon got on top of Zimmerman, but eyewitness accounts and physical evidence support the fact that he was.
    __________

    Now, I wasn’t there, but I know that if a guy is on top of another guy, and is basking his head against the sidewalk, such an act can result in serious bodily injury or death. If you were under a guy who was bashing your head against the sidewalk, what would you do?

  • Truth

    “Racial strife and civil unrest is an effective distraction from the failed policies of the Obama administration.”

    It won’t help his re-election chances…

  • Hail The Amberlamps!

    AC said:

    As long as the sheeple are busy reenacting the passion of Saint Skittles they aren’t paying attention to the miserable economy, the soaring debt, or the skyrocketing gas prices.

    Expect a succession of “Passion of St. Skittles” problem-reaction until the election (elect Obama = solution). Like feeder bands into a hurricane.

    Wonder if Peggy is still waiting for her free five-dollar Obamagas:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

  • lao

    AC sez: As long as the sheeple are busy reenacting the passion of Saint Skittles they aren’t paying attention to the miserable economy, the soaring debt, or the skyrocketing gas prices.

    LOL!!

    AC you have contributed at length to almost all of the 26 moonbattery threads devoted to this subject. Despite ongoing investigations that have, to date, not released any information about the autopsy, paramedics testimony, cops on the scene testimony, a full list of witnesses etc., you have been more than happy to pass speculative judgement. Who exactly are the “sheeple”?

  • Buck Swamp

    Trayvon was a thug-in-training. Trayvon probably looked Zimmerman over. Seeing an overweight white guy, Trayvon probably asked himself a question: “Do I feel lucky? Well, do I?” He did. He wasn’t. Bye-bye, Trayvon.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, your obsession with this case and your abhorrent tactic of LYIONG about the evidence at hand renders you unsuitable to lecture anyone about ANYTHING!

  • dan

    all the facts…or as close as you’re gonna’ get before the trial : http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/video-george-zimmermans-father-speaks-out-2/

  • Hail The Amberlamps!

    Hey there Uncle Arthur, have you any pursuits other than counting posts at MB? Do you have attendants assisting in Activities of Daily Living, freeing you up to fulfill your Political Officer duties?

    Must be nice having all that help and a computer dedicated to Moonbattery.

    OCD can be a real challenge.

  • CoCoJo

    Yep, looks just like Obama’s son, physically and mentally.

  • Sam Adams

    Lao:
    Police report:
    http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf
    Autopsy results? Death by gun shot wound. If there are another other findings it will be against Treyvon and his “innocence.” Like…what if they found alcohol or drugs in his system? Does that make Treyvon more innocent and Zimmerman more guilty?
    Other than eye-witness testmony, there are no other facts likely to be added to this sorry tale by paramedics, etc.

    Has Sharpton stopped talking about this event yet?

  • http://genelalor.com berlet98

    The Whitewashing of Trayvon Martin

    Aesop’s shepherd boy cried wolf so often that villagers didn’t believe him when a very hungry wolf was really stalking his flock and the wolf ate all the sheep. Morals: Don’t lie and, when you do, you shouldn’t expect anyone to believe you when you finally tell the truth.

    (See “The Trayvon Martin Bonfire,” http://bit.ly/H28Eaf, and “America’s One-Sided Race Card,” http://bit.ly/HnQeQC.)

    Those morals should be studied by blacks agitating for the condemnation and execution of George Zimmerman for killing Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida on February 26th, 2012.

    Since the case went national, we have witnessed an almost unprecedented upheaval attended by astounding lies and distortions from black leaders. Not since Rodney King was portrayed as an innocent and large areas of Los Angeles were burned to the ground in 1992 have we seen such an outpouring of organized venom and mischaracterizations designed to instigate public discord.

    Any untimely death is a tragedy and the death of a young man is especially tragic. However, the circus atmosphere created by professional race-baiters, by the media, and by Martin’s parents in the wake of the shooting is a shameful disgrace which only serves to needlessly stir up racial animosity and demean Trayvon’s memory.

    Contrary to initial knee-jerk media coverage but according to the Sanford Police Department’s “Incident Report,” Zimmerman, a part-hispanic, registered Democrat, shot and killed Martin after the muscular, six-foot two inch Martin ambushed the overweight neighborhood watchman and pummeled him while he was merely doing his job watching the gated neighborhood in Sanford.

    There can be no reasonable doubt as to Zimmerman’s injuries. Police first attempted to resuscitate Martin and then administered first aid to Zimmerman who was bleeding from his nose and head, and a laceration is visible on the back of his head in a survellance video shot at the police station.

    Statements were taken from six people who witnessed the attack in whole or part.

    See the Sanford Police Department report here http://thedc.com/GUFFpi.

    That neighborhood will never be the same, not because of Zimmerman’s self-defensive actions but because Trayvon Martin has become a cause célèbre for fomentors of black rage, a dead but potent tool to stir up racial strife, the bread and butter for such people as Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan, and the New Black Panther Party.

    As they continue to arouse racial passions in black communities and as mostly-black high school and college students throughout the country stage misguided protests . . .

    (Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=19299.)

  • lao

    MY obsession??? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

    TWENTY SIX moonbattery threads…and counting.

    Unlike YOUR side, I have not made ANY comments about “the evidence at hand”. You have whined repeatedly because I WON’T comment.

    My response, for the last week has been: I am quite content to allow the investigations already under way to run their course.

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, you are COUNTING the threads. You are most likely also counting the number of posts on each thread and storing them for future reference. That is OBSESSION.

    And we ALL know about your impotent little statement concerning the investigation. What you have been asked AND REFUSED TO ANSWER is… “Will you accept the results of that investigation and let this all go?”

    And we all know WHY you won’t answer, don’t we Lao!

  • BP

    Zimmerman did in fact stop “pursuing” Trayvon according to the 911 tapes.

  • http://senecaii@comcast.net BP

    What I heard was that Zimmerman didnt want to give his address to the 911 operator because he said ” I dont know where this kid is” which means he lost sight of Trayvon.Trayvon should have just stayed hidden stayed running or whatever instead of coming out of hiding our returning to confront Zimmerman.

  • wingmann

    “AFL-CIO Executive Vice President Arlene Holt Baker told The Daily Caller that it is “conservative, right-wing policies that are to blame” for Trayvon Martin‘s death”

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/30/afl-cio-exec-conservative-right-wing-policies-to-blame-for-trayvon-martins-death-video/

    These race hustling whores just can’t help themselves…sad…NO IT’S SICK they use trayvon’s death as opportunity to spew their political diatribes.

  • Tim from TK

    “cmon people says: March 30, 2012 at 8:17 am

    Here is the part I don’t get…”

    Well, that is certainly true, but itt is patently obvious there is little you do get. A 911 dispatcher suggesting someone not follow is not the same a badged officer telling someone to cease and desist.

    “What part of that does not compute? (Error between keyboard and chair, I’m guessing…)”

    Indeed, but we are hoping you will get better, though by no means holding our collective breath that such will occur.

  • lao

    Another demonstration that the more grease stanwee we gets the louder he squeaks.

  • Hail The Amberlamps!

    Did the Canadian Soviet Political Officer wait for autopsy, drug screen results, psych exams, background info, witness interviews or even police reports before his CROSSHAIRS! obsessional smear of Sarah Palin in the Jared Laoughner massacre?

    Hmmm?

  • Bob Roberts

    cmon people says: March 30, 2012 at 8:17 am
    ———–
    Once again we get lies from the leftist trolls:

    He claims the cops told Zimmerman not to follow Martin.

    NOT TRUE.

    They told him he didn’t have to do it. They did NOT tell him not to do it.

    And this lib-tard, as usual, leaves out KEY POINTS.

    Zimmerman didn’t leave his vehicle until Martin decided to try to ambush him. Martin ducked out of sight. Zimmerman got out of his car to see if he could find him and did not. As Zimmerman headed back to his car, Martin ambushed him from the rear. Zimmerman and Martin exchanged words then Martin chose, without any legitimate cause to do so, to turn it into a life or death struggle. Martin has a history of unprovoked violent behavior. Martin was a gangsta wannabe. Considered himself a badass tough guy and wound up getting the same end result so many punk hoodlums like him do – the only difference is usually it’s another wannabe gang banger that delivers the coup de grâce.

    lao lies: March 30, 2012 at 8:41 am
    ————-
    This matter was, for all intents and purposes, closed appropriately shortly after the incident in question. The family of Martin has complained bitterly about the truth that has been emerging from the “ongoing investigations” (how many are “ongoing”, lao?) which, really, could have best remained private. We really didn’t want or need to know what a vicious hoodlum punk wannabe gangsta thug Martin was. We didn’t need to know that he picked a physical fight with Zimmerman and verbally threatened to kill him – then did his best to carry out the threat. His own family didn’t need to be put through this public humiliation despite the fact he is ultimately responsible for what happened.

    Why is lao calling for the release of more information that will only make Martin look worse as it comes out? I mean yeah, thanks to all the race-baiting I think we do need to go ahead and get it all out, but the sad thing is that it will only confirm what we already know, as we saw with the ridiculous attempts by ABC to claim that no injuries were seen in the video of Zimmerman, only to have someone who bothered to actually look note that the video confirmed a major laceration on the back of Zimmerman’s head.

    But lao and the “chattering masses” (I know, that idiot said “classes” but I’m saying masses because it’s multiple “classes” involved) aren’t content. Indeed lao won’t even admit that he’s joined those calling for Zimmerman’s head and blood, hiding as he usually does behind his pitiful claims all he’s done is posted the words and such of others without taking sides, even though what he posts proves what side he’s taken.

    Why do you think they’re not releasing a full list of witnesses, what with the threats lao and his ilk have been making? The key eyewitness, a 13 year old boy, may wind up being hurt or murdered by the angry rabble. You see, if they intimidate the witness or kill him then they will be one step further to replacing the truth with their totally falsified version of events.

    The fact remains the one credible witness stated he saw what he saw and confirmed that Zimmerman’s account, which matches ALL the physical evidence, is true.

    The only ones speculating, lao and his ilk, are despicable.

    Finally lao, like a bird-brained idiot he is, keeps shrilly screeching:

    “My response, for the last week has been: I am quite content to allow the investigations already under way to run their course.”

    Then why haven’t you SHUT THE FVCK UP about it? If you’re REALLY content to let the “investigations” heap more mud on Martin as you keep claiming, STOP POSTING ABOUT THIS and STOP POSTING ON THREADS ABOUT THIS.

    Surely by now there’s some other more significant issue for you to be horribly, comically wrong about!

  • Bob Roberts

    Oh, before lao gets his panties in a twist, I should not have said, “Why do you think they’re not releasing a full list of witnesses, what with the threats lao and his ilk have been making?” as lao has not actually made any threats, he’s just backing and siding with those who have.

  • Festivus

    cmon people says: March 30, 2012 at 8:17 am

    Here is the part I don’t get…

    The real cops told Zimmerman not to follow Martin. Told him to back off. To stop what he was doing. He did not do so, and ended up shooting an unarmed guy. That’s the end of the story.

    This is not clear.

    The 911 call from Zimmerman indicates that he was pursuing Martin (heavy breathing on the phone). After he was told that he didn’t need to pursue, the heavy breathing stops, there’s a little more conversation and the phone call ends.

    It’s clear Zimmerman stopped pursuing due to the heavy breathing stopping. We don’t know precisely what happened next, but according to Zimmerman, he was walking back to his truck and Martin approached him from behind.

    That last part could be interpreted as a self-serving statement and there is no one, least of all Martin, that can corroborate it (unless there’s a witness statement that has not yet been made public). In that case, you look at the totality of the evidence and representations made by Zimmerman and if they are all consistently verified by the physical evidence and witness statements, then you can judge that statement accordingly – was he truthful in every other representation but false in this particular one or is it more likely that if he was truthful in the other representations is it likely he was truthful in this particular representation as well.

  • wingmann

    Bob Roberts says:
    March 30, 2012 at 9:12 am
    _________________

    “Surely by now there’s some other more significant issue for you to be horribly, comically wrong about”(again)

    For some reason I got a good laugh from that line…TY Bob!

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    TWENTY SIX moonbattery threads…and counting.
    Lao
    Get that Dave ?
    You have upset the official Canadian thread count troll.
    The proper response to when MSLSD trots out the inevitable ultrasound of Treyvon with Zimmerman standing over him with an AK is to bite your tongue,.

  • KHarn

    Even if Zimemrman is found guilty and exicuted, the race whores WILL NOT BE SATISFIED.

  • Sam Adams

    lao says:
    March 30, 2012 at 9:02 am

    Another demonstration that the more grease stanwee we gets the louder he squeaks.
    ___________

    Unfortunately further evidence that one can’t have an adult conversation with you.

    Sad.

  • Ghost of FA Hayek

    We don’t know precisely what happened next,
    Fiberal
    The lib narrative is set
    Of course Zimmerman dragged poor little Treyvon on top of him, and proceeded to punch his fists out with his face

  • Doug

    lao says:

    you have contributed at length to almost all of the 26 moonbattery threads devoted to this subject.

    I see your Soros funded software is still working ;)

  • StanInTexas

    Lao, almost everything will sounds like squeeling when you have your fingers in your ears singing “LALALALALA, I can’t hear the truth, my mind is already made up”.

    Any chance you will be answering my question, or will you AGAIN try to pretend I don’t exist?

  • StanInTexas

    BTW, Lao.

    Contrary to your LIE @8:41, the report from the two officers on scene have been released and are available for your reading. That is, if reading something that is true about this case rather that the propaganda you have been fed is even possible for you.

    I’m sure we’ll be seeing your apology for lying soon, won’t we?

  • SR

    Yesterday Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL) donned a hoodie as he spoke on the floor of Congress yesterday, to draw attention to the Trayvon Martin case. But about an hour ago inside a store six people were shot on the 1400 block of West 79th Street on Chicago’s South Side-which is in Rush’s district. One of the victims is dead. This section of the South Side is predominantly African-American. Will Rush, a former Black Panther, express outrage over this tragedy?

    http://marathonpundit.blogspot.com/2012/03/six-shot-one-dead-in-bobby-hoodie-rushs.html

  • StanInTexas

    Hey Lao, here is someone who thinks the same as you on what should happen in the ‘investigation’ of this matter…

    MSNBC host Rev. Al Sharpton says there will be an escalation in civil disobedience if George Zimmerman remains free.
    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-30/news/os-george-zimmerman-trayvon-al-sharpton-20120330_1_civil-disobedience-national-action-network-national-association

    Yeah, to HELL with the facts. Either punish Zimmerman or we will riot!

  • Doug

    This will make widdle wao’s head explode.

    The cultured and socialist British hate Obama for not declaring it a ‘hate crime’ (not what you think):

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9173820/Parents-of-murdered-British-students-criticise-Barack-Obama.html

  • AC
  • Dupree

    Like all liberals, Lao would like us to censor ourselves. Lao, we are REACTING to the media hype and distortion, which is ongoing.

  • thomas starker

    Hey Mr. cmon people:

    Have you ever had your head kicked in by “unarmed” men?
    I have, and I spent two weeks in Denver General as a result. The only reason I survived, according to the detective who interviewed me in the ICU, was because a van pulled into the parking lot, scared the assailants (“Native Americans” by the way), and called an ambulance.

  • http://think-magazine.com Joe Bodia

    Hey, “cmon people” are you such a fool?

    “The real cops told Zimmerman not to follow Martin. Told him to back off. To stop what he was doing. He did not do so, and ended up shooting an unarmed guy. That’s the end of the story.”

    You need to take a look at the facts or listen to the WHOLE recorded call to a private/commercially run NON-EMERGENCY hotline (who then calls 911) and you will hear his being told “we don’t need you to do that” and the part that cut of almost every media report, he says “OKAY”.

    WTF is wrong with your brain? Think for yourself.

  • Bill

    This waste of human flesh called Tray Martin! He was killed in the act of committing a crime! Checking out his tweets on twitter advising someone to shoot someone else (English version). The real Tray was a piece of crap, not like they tried to portray him with a picture when he was 12. His mother is crap as well! Having the slogans copyrighted, “I AM TRAY” etc. I’m sure she’s thinking she hit the lottery!!! Now if they can just get someone to sue and make more money!

  • FrankW

    IDK 26 count is not that comfy. I believe 620 or so is the standard for fine Egyptian cotton.

  • Reagan Conservative

    St. Skittles is certainly giving the viewer the same dignity and respect that the One who he would look like if he had a son has given the U.S. taxpayers and Constitution.

  • TrojanMan

    “Zimmerman was forced to use his weapon to terminate Trayvon’s felonious conduct.”

    Terminate his felonious conduct… HAHAHA thats awesome wording. Thanks AC i needed a laugh!

    To throw in my two cents. Non-whites and whites can murder a white person and its plain murder. A White kills a non-white and its a hate crime. Is not murder in itself a “hate crime”? One act of murder is not more of a crime then another act of murder.

    Very few people know exactly what happened but it sounds like a “white” Latino (whatever the hell that is) was doing his job as a neighborhood watchmen, saw someone who didnt fit as someone who would normally be in that area and did what he felt was right and ended up defending himself. Sounds like justice was done.

    For all those people who would say “its a free country i can go where i want”. Say that to a white man who happens to find himself in south central LA at night walking down the street. I would be suprised if he DID NOT get murdered. And everyone would be saying “what was that cracker thinking going down there”. Same thing applies for non-whites in white areas right? The only difference is the black guy is FAR less likely to be murdered in a white neighborhood.

    The truth sometimes hurts.

    TM

  • AC

    Two British tourists were murdered in Florida for being white in the wrong area. The “racial justice” crowd was nowhere to be found. They walked a sidewalk they had a right to walk, and it cost them their lives.

    The animal responsible for this heinous crime was given life without by our candy ass justice system.

  • Festivus

    Ghost of FA Hayek says: March 30, 2012 at 10:15 am

    We don’t know precisely what happened next,
    Fiberal
    The lib narrative is set
    Of course Zimmerman dragged poor little Treyvon on top of him, and proceeded to punch his fists out with his face

    I’m thinking that may have been directed toward me.

    What I meant is that we don’t know precisely what happened immediately after Zimmerman stopped his pursuit. Did he turn around and walk back toward his truck as he says he did, or did he just stand there, or did he continue to walk in the direction of where he last saw Martin?

    This was the point I was getting at and it is very important, I’m thinking, because the legal standard (Stand Your Ground) would have to evaluate which person was threatening the other. Was it Zimmerman that kept walking in the direction where he last saw Martin thereby initiating the confrontation, or was it Martin that approached Zimmerman from behind as alleged by Zimmerman?

    We don’t absolutely know the answer to that important question. Maybe the police know through witnesses or other physical evidence, maybe not. We may never know for certain.

    There is at least one person that saw Martin on top of Zimmerman. I think there might actually be two witnesses to that, but I’m not sure. Insofar as that is concerned, I do think there is fairly reliable information indicating that is indeed what occured.

    It’s just this period of time between when Zimmerman stopped running (as evidence by the 911 call) and when Martin was observed on top of Zimmerman that is not really well established with what information is public at this point. I’m pretty sure the witness(es) also saw Martin hit Zimmerman causing him to go down to the ground.

  • AC

    As far as SYG is concerned, it wouldn’t matter. Zimmerman had a right to be on that sidewalk. Even if Zimmerman began the encounter, it was Trayvon who began the unlawful assault.

  • wingmann
  • Bath House Barry

    lao says: March 30, 2012 at 9:02 am- “Another demonstration that the more grease stanwee we gets the louder he squeaks.”

    Not as loud as you did in the disco room at my crib. Preznit lovelog’s got more “grease” than you can handle, baby. Gimme another holler next saturday night, dog. Gnomesayin?

  • https://sites.google.com/site/helpandcounsel/home Jamessir Bensonmum

    Thank you for the truth. And for the photo. It is so typical – the colored male with nothing but contempt for others.

    The little parasite Trayvon was committing a violent felony. I thank God Mr. Zimmerman defended himself.

  • Bob Roberts

    lao says: March 30, 2012 at 8:41 am

    QUOTE:
    AC you have contributed at length to almost all of the 26 moonbattery threads devoted to this subject.
    ———–
    Which is it lao? Almost? Or all? Because it can’t be both. And see what you said that relates to this in your later post after I finish with this one.

    QUOTE:
    Despite ongoing investigations that have, to date, not released any information about the… cops on the scene testimony…
    ————
    As others noted and as I already noted in one of those posts you evidently failed to bother to read, which proves how it is you fail to get important information and make such a fool of yourself, it was noted that the written reports of the police involved WERE released.

    Written reports were released which are better than later testimony and more credible since, in the current environment, they’re likely to be pressured by threats from the people lao sides with to change their testimony to avoid attack. The fact their written reports were already made and can’t be tainted in similar fashion makes them the most credible testimony available from the officers.

    lao says: March 30, 2012 at 8:54 am
    MY obsession??? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
    TWENTY SIX moonbattery threads…and counting. Unlike YOUR side, I have not made ANY comments about “the evidence at hand”. You have whined repeatedly because I WON’T comment.
    ————-
    Oh but you certainly HAVE made comments about the “evidence at hand”, or actually your claim that it is lacking, when in fact you were lying because it isn’t. The only new facts to discover all go against Treyvon Martin and bolster the already massive body of evidence that PROVES BEYOND ANY DOUBT that Zimmerman was fully justified in shooting the vicious, murderous thug who surprise attacked him. Despite all the attempts to paint Martin as an innocent angel, each time said attempts just come back to bite those who make them right in the A$$ as they reveal just what a sick twisted punk he was willingly becoming. I actually hate to say it, but Zimmerman did the world a favor ending his chosen career early, before he got the chance to ruin other lives.

    So yeah, what if we were to go back and count how many of those “26″ threads that touched on Zimmerman and Martin YOU commented on. Would it be “almost all” or just plain all?

    And, don’t look now, but it’s a freakin’ CATASTROPHIC DAY for lao and his ilk. Remember Kobulnicky lao? The guy who you were crowing was still in jail, still facing charges even though the witness totally recanted and said he did nothing to her?

    Well guess what.

    All charges dropped.

    He’s been released.

    And he’s probably going to get a fat settlement from the city to boot for false charges and false imprisonment, or perhaps they kept him in to pressure him to sign a release – they’re pretty ruthless here and that’s the way they roll.

    After all, as I told you (and you just made fun of it), I know people who know people.

  • lao

    I do enjoy bobby’s “logic”.

    If someone said “bobby drank almost all of that bottle of wine” would you sneer, “Which is it, ‘almost’ or ‘all’, it can’t be both?

    As for Kobulnicky, when the woman recanted her testimony on Monday, I asked on Wednesday how come he was still in jail. I did a search for “Kobulnicky charges dropped” and “Kobulnicky released from jail” and got nothing. Tell us, bobby “I know people who know people” roberts, what’s up with that?

    So, now he’s finally out. Charges were laid and now they are dropped when new evidence (the accuser recanting) was revealed.

    Of course, bobby ignores what his main concern was when that story broke. You can follow all the hoops he jumped through here:

    Open Thread

    Here’s another quote of mine:

    lao says:
    March 18, 2012 at 1:14 pm
    The actual issue here, as I knew it would be, is the frantic efforts of conservatives to provide cover for themselves when providing cover was not even necessary.

    You COULD have responded, “what a horrible crime, if he’s found guilty I hope they throw the book at him!”.

    That would have been that.

    Naturally, the emphasis instead has been on multiple long-winded posts claiming the guy is NOT a Tea Party member, that his organization is somehow not legitimate, that there is no such thing as a Tea Party “leader” etc. Now bobby is even quibbling about geography and what “near” means.
    Very amusing.

  • lao

    bobby asks: So yeah, what if we were to go back and count how many of those “26″ threads that touched on Zimmerman and Martin YOU commented on. Would it be “almost all” or just plain all?

    Nine.

  • Amalia

    laozee, if you’re just content to let the investigation continue, why do you keep posting in these threads? You’re a lying sack of shit.

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  • RICH

    here’s what Trayvon Martin really looked like:

    Yes, let’s look past the color of his skin and thug-like behaviour and examine just how thin he was. Zimmerman, on the other hand, was a stocky, well built man. He outweighed Trayvon Martin by 50 pounds.

    This is like comparing a welterweight vs a heavyweight fighter of a different class.

    “Have you ever had your head kicked in by “unarmed” men?

    No, and that sucks, but that has no relevance with this case.

    Let me sum it up this way for you all.

    Vigilante uses excessive force; shoots and kills underweight and unarmed teenager.

    Can we move on now?

  • FrankW

    Except for a couple issues rich,
    1. martin has been described as an athlete, fast, strong.
    2. 5’9, 250lbs is not exactly a MMA build, and Zimmerman likely was a fat, out of shape wuss (I was 5’9 and 260 at one point and I had trouble keeping up with my shadow).
    3. Thug life breeds more aggressive behavior, and martin clearly was either a thug or desperately wanted to be.
    So if I was to get in a fight with (Kenny Florian {mma fighter}) who would win? I am 5’9 240 lbs. Florian is 155 or so and 5’10 – similar physical match-up to martin-Zimmerman. I have a basic knowledge of krav maga, jujitsu, and karate. Florian is a black belt in jujitsu and muy Thai and a top of his game professional fighter (similar difference in fighting ability to martin-Zimmerman). I will guarantee you that without an equalizer I fear that Florian could kill me.
    I likely would not have waited to get hit before shooting, that is just how I was trained. But it is entirely obvious that martin was physically and mentally capable of beating the crap out of Zimmerman.

  • FrankW

    BTW what is excessive force if you fear for your life? When martin saw the gun he did not back off, so what exactly comes between getting your head bashed in and shooting the perp? And if you say “shoot to wound”, it is a basic rule, if you are shooting at a person always shoot to kill.

  • RICH

    A 5’9, 250 pound overweight Zimmerman was back in 2005. But it doesn’t matter. Martin was a skinny kid and not a professionally trained expert fighter like Kenny Florian. And Florian does not normally fight other professionals who are 50 pounds above his weight class.

    The deadly force in this situation is what made it excessive.

    I have a basic knowledge of krav maga, jujitsu, and karate.

    You don’t sound like a “wuss” to me. Does the above picture of the twiggy Martin intimidate you?

    If this vigilante was so fearful for his life, why didn’t that same fear stop him from stalking and confronting Martin to begin with?

  • Sinister66

    FrankW says:

    “3. Thug life breeds more aggressive behavior, and martin clearly was either a thug or desperately wanted to be.”

    Zimmerman isnt an angel either.
    1.Domestic violence charges
    2. assaulting a police officer charges.
    3. Losing his job as a party bouncer for assaulting a woman that popped her gum at him.

  • FrankW

    If he indeed has dv charges how did he qual for a ccw? Especially with the assault of police charges. My understanding is he had a valid ccw. As far as the bouncer thing goes, depends on who the chick he bounced was. If she is or is related to someone important, it is a political canning, not necessarily a merit related one.

    My point is a younger, more agile person with an aggressive attitude would make me more likely to shoot. This is not a confrontation between good and evil. This is a confrontation between two flawed individuals. Just because martin was trash does not indicate the saint-hood of Zimmerman.
    Just for the record I think Zimmerman is probably not guilty of murder, but as I have stated further investigation is warranted.
    I never indicated I am a wuss, I can go toe to toe with any other arthritic 45 year old (with 2 ruptured discs) on the planet. But if an athletic 15-20 year old (or someone outside my skill and ability range) jumps me, I would likely try to respond at a distance. As I was trained to, a primary purpose of hand to hand is when weapons at distance fail. If I am jumped I want the world to know.
    All I can do is guess at Zimmerman’s mindset. My opinion is that he did not want to confront directly, but wanted closure by ensuring either no crimes occurred or martin was at least stopped by police.
    And intimidate my be too strong a descriptor, but I definitely would not want to lose awareness of him. Small dogs bite quicker.
    My only reason for comparing him to an MMA fighter was to illustrate that the size 6’0, 160 (I have read 150-170 in various places) is not “too skinny to walk”, people with the same basic build compete at a high level.

  • RICH

    No, Martin was a still-developing 6’1, 150 pound twig. Scroll to the top and look at him. Look at him. No way was he stronger than Zimmerman.

    “a younger, more agile person with an aggressive attitude would make me more likely to shoot.”

    And you would more than likely go to jail.

  • Noelegy

    Why didn’t whoever Martin was staying with in that neighborhood (his father? his father’s girlfriend) introduce him to the neighborhood watch people? How hard would it have been to say, “This is my son, he’ll be staying here for a few days and you might see him walking around”?

  • Noelegy

    Zimmerman weighed 170 lbs at the time of the shooting. He’d lost weight since the “mugshot” photo. He didn’t outweigh Martin by that much.

  • jaded

    Perhaps…just perhaps…if it weren’t for the polar-bear-hunting, knock out king, and beat whitey nights….just maybe…people wouldn’t feel the need to form watch groups in their neighborhoods. And maybe…if those stories had gotten more publicity (and maybe more criminal prosecutions), we wouldn’t be dissolving into post-colonial Africa so rapidly. (And no, I don’t care at all if you call me the r-word. I don’t believe in white guilt. I DO, however, read and study crime statistics.)

  • Morris

    “If you were under a guy who was bashing your head against the sidewalk, what would you do?”

    Depends! If I were (God forbid) a nuanced, sophisticated, intellectual progressive, I’d bear my throat and beseech him to “Be gentle, big fella!”.

  • FrankW

    My only point with the MMA references was that 6’0 and 160lbs is not “too skinny to walk” (go see the Freshman-Sophomores at any high school). And even if Zimmerman was an identical match pound for pound, does that also mean a law should be passed preventing physical altercations unless opponents are in the same weight class? No, if martin was acting thugish (by most theories he was) I am stating that shooting was not excessive. And in KS, I would have been OK under the imminent danger provisions, you do not have to be damaged in order to defend yourself, just the reasonable suspicion you will be is enough.

  • treyvonsdeadcuzhesathug

    Calling this a “racial” shooting is RIDICULOUS!!!!
    A Ridiculous Lie, perpetrated by those who truly are RACISTS!!!

    While it is true that the volunteer neighborhood patrol person in this case did first spot the young man in the neighborhood, the volunteer stopped following him as was ordered by 911 dispatch and continued to simply patrol the area, that is his job.That is what neighborhood crime watch people do, patrol, to protect you and the neighborhood.
    (Thanks to all the volunteers crime watchers who protect us!)

    Despite the pictures of a 6 year old black child next to a 10 year old 100 pounds heavier then now mexican (this is exactly how the media wanted you to formulate your opinion for the first month), this strong healthy young man walked up and confronted the neighborhood patrol volunteer and knocked him to the ground quite quickly I might add, and started pounding his face in. Pounding it in so severely he was breaking facial bones Getting your face pounded in while your on the ground by a strong healthy young man, as he is wailing away at your face with his fists and breaking bones in your face.. I would hardly call that “racial” motivation. Having this out of control strong healthy teenager go for your gun while he is beating your face in and breaking your facial bones while your still on the ground. PLEASE!! That shooting is called “self defense” against an aggressor and dangerous individual who was reaching for a gun to kill.

    It is very very sad that someone died here, it is very very sad that someone got badly beat up here… but get the facts straight.. no one was just skipping home with some candy from the store and all of the sudden they were chased down and shot. All the facts have come out, that is why the volunteer was NOT charged by the police. That is why the TRUE RACISTS have come out as they have here recently and tried to say this young man was shot because of his race and THAT IS A LIE!

    This incident happened because of an altercation, where someone was being badly beat to the point of fearing for his life while his facial bones were being broken, and his gun was being removed from his body by an aggressor trying to kill him.

  • lou1011

    Nothing’s changed here A thug assaulted a guy on the streets, who defended himself.One less thug in this world..thank you Zimmerman

  • NomeSain

    If you wantsta be exempt from all criminal laws in America, puts on a hoodie and grab a bag of skittles & watermelon flavored Arizona ice tea and go about kickin’ ass whereeva you wants to. Nobody can does nothin to ya if you is proppaly outfitted – Nomesain?

    …and if somebody does in-fact does sumpin to ya, then alla yous fellow nomesains will come out in support of ya being a criminal ass. Nomesains line up to protect nomesains who upta no good. Day can be criminal ass without recourse – Nomesain?

  • JJ

    Trevon M. Wasn’t a good kid at all, read this …. He was a trouble kid always ….http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/05/new_evidence_shows_trayvons_life_unraveling.html

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