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Dec 07 2012

If Obama Had Been President for Pearl Harbor

Good thing Pearl Harbor happened 71 years ago, before America was fundamentally transformed:


Those were the good old days — when America’s worst enemies came at us from overseas, instead of using their control of the media and government to attack from within.

Via The Looking Spoon, on tips from Jared and Bob Roberts.

12 Responses to “If Obama Had Been President for Pearl Harbor”

  1. Dr. 9 says:

    On this sacred day, We The People should be ashamed. After all those brave men gave their lives for this country, we have sat by and watched all the things they died for taken away by the Marxist in the WH and his Obamunist worshipers. Because of our national weakness, We The People are no longer worthy of their sacrifice.

  2. Clingtomyguns says:

    The apparent majority of the electorate doesn’t care. Unlike Barackaclaus, those brave men and women never gave their spoiled sorry butts the promise of free sh#t, and allowed massive hordes of third world invaders who share no common heritage or desire for the traditional American way of life come feed at the public trough.

  3. Mr Evilwrench says:

    My dad and some uncles that fought in WWII and Korea are mercifully underground and don’t have to see this. Apparently I shall need to watch it through crosshairs.

  4. spinning earth reported at military cemetary says:

    @Dr. 9 I agree and was thinking that the other day. All those soldiers, sailors and airmen who fought the nazis and then the commies in two “police actions” and now we’re on the road to some euro-socialist pipedream.

  5. Jimbo says:

    The Pearl Harbor Day Parade will start in 55 minutes, here in HNL; just a block from my condo. I can stand on my lanai and see a sliver of it – but I’ll walk down and applaud the float with the Pearl Harbor Veterans/Survivors. There aren’t many left.

  6. Sam Adams says:

    One should also be aware of the history leading up to Pearl Harbor day. Japan had invaded China. The US wanted to put pressure on the Japanese to withdraw without actually going to war. Jul 26, 1941, President Roosevelt froze all Japanese assets, as a result, Japan lost access to three-fourths of its overseas trade and 88 percent of its imported oil.

    Now Roosevelt didn’t necessarily want to provoke a war, but the US populous was very determined not to get involved in another European war, the Brits were pleading for us to get involved, and Roosevelt was, indeed, sympathetic to the plight of the British.

    So the “day that shall live in infamy” wasn’t entirely an unprovoked attack on a peaceful nation. Could Japan have negotiated a peaceful resolution to our embargo on their economy?

    My point isn’t to take away from the heroism or sacrifice of those who fought and died at Pearl Harbor. My point is to bring to light the manipulation of world events by our politicians, which helped to bring us into another European war.

  7. Belfast says:

    No one said it was unprovoked, it was an undeclared attack. Japan had invaded china? Japan had invaded years before and was murdering and enslaving and raping and poison gassing. Dream on, Sam.

  8. KHarn says:

    “Belfast says:December 8, 2012 at 12:32 am”

    Indeed. When Cordell Hull (As an ambasador) asked when Japan would end the china war, he was told it MIGHT end in TWENTY FIVE YEARS. America wanted an end sooner and cut off vital war materials. Japan COULD HAVE negotiated peace with the Nationalist chinese (who would have been eager to settle things with the commies) and consolidated their gains. this would have satisfied the American people and government, the trade would have been resumed and Japan would have been in a stronger ecconomic and military position within a few years.

  9. Sam Adams says:

    Bottom line is that pressing anyone too hard can result in unpredictable results.

    Maybe we should have learned this lesson from the Civil War. Why is it that every other nation that had slavery found a way to eliminate slavery without a civil war?

  10. John Lewis says:

    You are looking into the future, not the past. Suppose, three years from now, the USCG at the Port of New York detect a vessel crossing into US waters and heading at high speed for NYC. Suppose that the Coast Guard has a helicopter or drone in range; and establishes that the vessel is an Iranian missile frigate (which they have now). At this point Iran has nukes and is thought to have loaded them into its larger missiles. Radio warnings to the ship are ignored.

    There are probably fifteen minutes at this point ’til the Iranian missile ship reaches launch distance. Let us assume, as is probable, that the USN or USCG have the necessary assets to take it out. But on such a critical matter, Washington is contacted for permission.

    What happens next?

  11. John Lewis says:

    The Japanese were fighting in China from 1931 onward, with extreme cruelty to the Chinese. Can you say, “Rape of Nanking?” So the US (and the other western powers, but of course the US was the most powerful) wisely decided to put pressure on the Japanese, for humanitarian reasons (the word “humanitarian” had not then been debased). On the basis of analysis of Japanese signals and, probably, naval movements, war was expected in late 1941. However, the best guess was that the attack would fall in the Far East (and, indeed, MacArthur was attacked in the Philippines immediately after Pearl Harbor). As Pearl Harbor was the citadel of the USN in the Pacific an attack there was not thought likely. Intelligence suggested otherwise (Japanese intelligence asked very detailed questions about the disposition of military installations on Pearl, and these were intercepted. They also asked details of the similar RN attack on the Italian navy at Taranto). Finally, the “winds” message was anticipated, and seems to have been understood correctly by one or two people.

    The confusion once the incoming aircraft were detected has been well described.

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