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Apr 02 2012

NBC News Resorts to Lying to Demonize George Zimmerman

An appalling example a stretching biased editing to the point of brazenly telling lies occurred when MSNBC supported a story about the alleged likelihood of white people shooting blacks if they are allowed to carry guns with video footage of a guy with an AR-15 cropped so that you could not see he was black. But that’s just MSNBC, right? No one expects integrity on the political kiddy channel. However, any distinction between the home of Al Sharpton and Ed Schultz and the supposed grownups at NBC News has effectively vanished, as demonstrated by coverage of the Trayvon Martin spectacle. MSNBC and NBC News jointly published this:

“This guy looks like he’s up to no good … he looks black,” Zimmerman told a police dispatcher from his car.

My, what a racist. So that’s why Zimmerman shot the little angel.

This is what was actually said:

ZIMMERMAN: This guy looks like he’s up to no good, [begin ellipsis] or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

911 DISPATCHER: Okay, is this guy, is he white, black, or Hispanic? [end ellipsis]

ZIMMERMAN: He looks black.

The propaganda value of NBC’s mendacious editing can hardly be overstated, considering that the unsubstantiated narrative they are trying to prop up is that the “white” Hispanic Zimmerman shot an innocent boy out of sheer racial animus.

Having been loudly called out on their attempt to mislead, NBC went back and surreptitiously changed the story to read:

“This guy looks like he’s up to no good,” Zimmerman said in a 911 call. Asked by a dispatcher if he was white, Hispanic or black, he replied, “He looks black.”

This doesn’t correct their crime against journalistic ethics but compounds it with a Winston Smith-type revision of the record. The damage had already been done, and there was no apology or correction notice.

At this point, watching NBC News is like trying to learn what’s going on in the world from Michael Moore movies.

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NBC: This guy is white and Zimmerman is a racist.

On tips from Matt S and Shawn.

46 Responses to “NBC News Resorts to Lying to Demonize George Zimmerman”

  1. Hail The Amberlamps! says:

    NBC deliberately distorted facts, lying? Next thing you know, they’ll be sending a black racist employee into Florida agitating black mobs and reporting on it…..

  2. Winston Smith says:

    Funny how they never mention the fact Zimmerman is a registered Democrat. If he was a registered Republican they would mention it 100% of the time and be calling on Republicans to denounce what they call their hateful rhetoric.

  3. StanInTexas says:


    The media thought they had the perfect story here… Racist White guy kills a black child WITH A GUN!!!! (cue the scary music). So they ran with it.

    Now, they find that Mr. Zimmerman is a Hispanic Democrat and NOT a white Tea-Party member. They are in full crisis mode right now, trying desparately to salvage ANY credibility at all on the subject.

    I’d call it “Fake, But Accurate”, but I think CBS copyrighted that phrase!

  4. dan says:

    …but you expose one false-flag operation and they just scurry back under their rock until they try the next one.
    Racisn,rioting and revolution…it’s all good for their business of propaganda/yellow journalism.

  5. Bill T says:

    Maybe they’re just trying to keep anyone from noticing what’s happening at the White House today.

    The North American Defence Ministry

  6. Bob Roberts says:

    Same sort of nonsense lao pulls. Look back two “open threads” where he takes a bunch of partial, out of context comments I made and tries to spin them into me saying I (or conservatives in general) support the European NAZIs.

    Poor lao, can’t help but make a fool of himself.

  7. Tim from TK says:

    Speaking of lying and our own inestimable “RICH” who has been touting Zimmerman the second coming of King Kong, and though most reports have had him listed as heavy set, no less a socialist rag as the NY Times says:

    “However it started, witnesses described to the 911 dispatcher what resulted: the neighborhood watch coordinator, 5 foot 9 and 170 pounds, and the visitor, 6 foot 1 and 150, wrestling on the ground.”

    Link to Times article:

  8. AC says:

    The truth is insufficiently agitating.

  9. FrankW says:

    I think instead of a diet and exercise I will just buy the nyt every day, Zimmerman has lost 80-100 lbs since this ordeal began.

  10. Tim from TK says:


    It gets better – interview with friend of Zimmerman also confirms his less than Brobdingnagian stature. Be warned that said friend is obviously a racist (/s).

    ABC recants – enhances their video to show injuries to Zimmerman.

    Moonbat narrative starts to crumble, “Former LEO instructors” hardest hit (pardon the pun).

  11. TexasDoc says:

    What is truly frightening is the sociopathic attitude of the media towards their own errors. They don’t care if someone is harmed physically or otherwise from their lies, only the story is important and only the political points are important. Everything else is just collateral damage to them. They have constitutional protection against their lies by using the canard of “freedom of the press”. Of course, they also project this to mean complete immunity from the responsibility attached to that right.

  12. StanInTexas says:

    TexasDoc, But have you noticed how they pick and choose those stories?

    They will run stories that endanger our soldiers serving overseas or our Intelligence Community. They will run stories that make racial tensions worse and ruin lives.

    But they will spike a story about the President’s daughter vacationing in Mexico with 25 Secret Service agents for protection because it might embarrass him!

  13. Judith M. says:

    Don’t worry, NBC is doing an internal investigation– that’ll fix it. [Howls of derisive laughter]

  14. RICH says:


    I said Zimmerman was well built and outweighed Martin by 50 pounds. I never said he was “the second coming of King Kong.” Exagerate much do you?

    Regardless of the official numbers, he was still heavier and most likely stronger than Martin.

    I’m surprised there was no bandage for his head. So he had a small cut. Fine. But cops get bloodied up in the line of duty all he time. That does not automatically justify the use of deadly force.

    But let’s clarify: Small cut on head > mortal bullet wound through chest.

    Trigger happy much?

    Oh and here’s an updated link for you Timmy. Compliments of my favorite Fox News.

    Forensic voice experts conclude it was not George Zimmerman screaming for help.

  15. Ted Turner says:

    There is a 48% chance it was not Zimmerman that means it was roughly 50% that it was. The forensic expertx could have just flipped a coin to get as accurate a reading.

  16. Judith M. says:

    RICH, did you notice the experts said it was a 48% match to Zimmerman and they didn’t compare it to Trayvon’s voice at all? What kind of expert jumps to the conclusion a voice belongs to someone they’ve never heard? Or is Fox News taking a page out of NBC’s reporting manual and lying about the experts’ findings?

    I despise the media. I really do.

  17. StanInTexas says:

    Rich, why do you insist on comparing Zimmerman to a cop when you have already admitting that the standards for bewhaviour and use of force are different between cops and civilians.

    You do not help you case by lying.

  18. Judith M. says:

    Sorry, Ted, I spoke prematurely, I guess I don’t hate you.

  19. Tim from TK says:

    RICH weasels:

    “Regardless of the official numbers…” Translated from RICHese: “Don’t confuse me with facts that disturb my mistaken preconceptions”.

    “But let’s clarify: Small cut on head…” ibid above.

    Your voice expert – yeah, nicely eviscerated here: and here:

    I know you won’t bother to read either, but keep on tapping Bojangles.

  20. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    We live in a brave new world
    Where convictions are derived from edited audio
    And doctored video
    Where eyewitness testimony counts for nothing
    And thirteen year old witnesses are recklessly “outed”
    Where hard evidence is exchanged for third party “he said she said” calls for help from an “expert” who says the scream “sounded young, like from Martin” evidence that is largely inadmissible, or carries little weight
    Where survival is no excuse for self defense
    Where radical racists with friends in high places can openly commit felonies.
    Where “justice” and “rights” are a moving target, based on your victimhood status, and political expediency.

    According to a 2005 FBI report, blacks accounted for 13 percent of the population and 49 percent of all homicide victims. In 93 percent of the cases, the killer was black. Half of the victims were ages 17 to 29.

    That works out to 4,000 murders of young blacks in one year, overwhelmingly at the hands of other blacks. In the communities where these killings occur there is, to put it in Jackson’s inimitable terms, no justice and no peace.

  21. KHarn says:

    RICH refuses to talk about ABC’s CRIMINAL act of stiring up the race war. LAO is activly avoiding the topic.

    Damn commies.

  22. Sweep the leg says:

    “…So he had a small cut. Fine…”

    You could easily be killed by blows to the head with no bleeding whatsoever resulting from said blows.

    You know what Rich? I sincerely, and I mean it, hope that you or a loved one of yours, is an upcoming victim of the next Trayvon. As Trayvon II beats your defenseless head into the ground over and over, I hope you remember writing what you have, in defense of the worthless POS, until you pass out without even a “small cut”

    You are beneath contempt.

  23. RICH says:

    RICH, did you notice the experts said it was a 48% match to Zimmerman

    I did Judith. There were two (2) forensic experts who concluded that it was not his voice. There’s something about being in the 90 percentile that they look for.

    and they didn’t compare it to Trayvon’s voice at all

    No, but I’m sure they will if or when they get audio. And if they do, it may confirm that the high pitched screams came from this kid. If it does, this will not help Mr. Zimmerman if this case goes to criminal trial.

    Listen, do I think Mr. Zimmerman committed murder? No. Do I think he is innocent? No. He may be charged with manslaughter, but I’m not sure.

    Anyway, that’s my opinion. So shoot me.

    I despise the media. I really do.

    So do I, especially the liberal media. MSNBC is the worst. But both sides are guilty of pouring gas on this fire. Moonbattery is no different. Hell, I’m guilty too. I wish it would stop, but we keep getting hooked, especially by the race bait. Its insanity. We are being distracted from the bigger problems facing our nation (Obama) because of this one incident.

  24. Sweep the leg says:

    @ Ghost

    What are you so upset about? You whine about eyewitness testimony counting for nothing, yet the other day you wrote this little piece of nausea inducing Left-wing account of what happened:

    “…Killing an unarmed kid who legally had the right to be where he was and stand his ground when a strange man stalked and confronted him by no means makes Zimmerman innocent…”

    If that happened, Z murdered him in cold blood!

    YOU buried Z with that BS, knowing that there was eyewitness testimony! Now you’re upset that others are doing the same? What a PC load of garbage you are. Can’t wait to read the spin. Were you quoting yourself out of context from a thread on another blog two weeks ago?

    Guys like YOU are killing this country with your pathetic attempts at being “fair and balanced” and “seeing both sides of the story”.

  25. RICH says:

    Sweep the leg says: April 2, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    I am beneath contempt

    But Sweep the Leg also says “I sincerely, and I mean it, hope that you or a loved one of yours, is an upcoming victim”

    Do I need to report this? Dave, do you want to remove that comment?

    No KHarn, ABC sucks too.

    I love how you guys draw all these conclusions about me, without even having a clue as too where I stand on any other issue. It’s a little disturbing (Sweep the Leg), a little pathetic (Tim form TK), and very wrong (KHarn).

  26. Tim from TK says:

    RICH evades:

    “…a little pathetic (Tim form[sic] TK)…”

    Indeed – only because you didn’t read, as I knew you wouldn’t, the links.

    So, because you are as lazy as you are perpetually mistaken, let me help you regarding your vaunted expert’s conclusions which have no weight whatsoever as they lack requisite comparisons:

    “The examiner can only work with speech samples which are the same as the text of the unknown recording. Under the best of circumstances the suspects will repeat, several times, the text of the recording of the unknown speaker and these words will be recorded in a similar manner to the recording of the unknown speaker.”

    “The worst exemplar recordings with which an examiner must work are those of random speech. It is necessary to obtain a large sample of speech to improve the chances of obtaining a sufficient amount of comparable speech.”

    Had you bothered to try and learn anything, you would have found that, “…this is the man who now claims that a few seconds of background screaming can be matched to calmly spoken words.”

  27. Judith M. says:

    I think the reliability of the test is also in question, RICH. It sounds like a beta release that has no track record and the credentials of the “experts” are also dubious. I hate the way the media trots out people we are supposed to blindly believe without knowing a thing about them or the technology they are using. Fox, in this case, is just as guilty as the rest of the media shills. And I agree, Obama is the problem, and this is just an Obama-approved distraction.

  28. Ghost of FA Hayek says:


    If Zimmerman is eventually convicted of something, why on earth should my right to defend myself hinge on this case ?
    Either self preservation is a RIGHT, or it isn’t.
    Rich, if you don’t believe it is, just say so.
    Unfortunately, you view those 4000 black on black murders I posted just as Stalin did, merely a statistic

    My question is, if fate had been reversed and Martin had killed Zimmerman, why wouldn’t we see the same level of outrage ?

  29. Sweep the leg says:

    “…Do I need to report this? Dave, do you want to remove that comment?”

    Report all you want. It’ll never happen because pukes like you live nowhere near the Trayvons of the world that you so easily defend.

    You know what, Rich? Guys like you are more dangerous to us than the Trayvons of the world. Know why? Because we would be happy, in self defense, to deal with the Trayvons. But if we do, pukes like you will come to THEIR defense, and pukes like you will cheer for our demise. And pukes like you will sue us for having the audacity to even think about defending ourselves.

    You are truly vile, Rich. Hey here’s an idea: why don’t you back it all up and go march and protest with your brothers on this? Go move amongst them, and proclaim your solidarity with them, and your contempt for us.

    You took up sides with the enemy, and you are shocked and hurt that…what, exactly?

  30. Sweep the leg says:

    “…Obama is the problem, and this is just an Obama-approved distraction…”

    This is no distraction, Judith. Obama hates whitey with every fiber of his being. He freaking said so well before the election, but we were told by pretty dam near everyone (Hewett, Medved, Ace of Spades, hell pretty much every single blog out there…), that WE are the racists. Now fools like Rich, who the panthers would slaughter without hesitation, are taking his side once again.

    Not a distraction, but Obama’s plan.

  31. Tim from TK says:

    Some more:

    “While I was in such close contact with Zimmerman, I could observe that his back appeared to be wet and was covered in grass, as if he had been lying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head…Zimmerman was placed in the rear seat of my police vehicle and was given first aid by the SFD”

    Of course, RICH will no doubt claim that he knows more than the police report because, after all, Zimmerman was heavier than Martin:

  32. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    You whine about eyewitness testimony counting for nothing, yet the other day you wrote this little piece of nausea inducing Left-wing account of what happened:
    Hold on there
    I suddenly feel the need to lawyer up
    I do remember saying “give him his day in court” in regard to any crimes he may or may not have committed.
    But self defense is no crime
    Of course this is how the system works.
    That was in response to the article calling for him to be arrested for his own safety.

  33. Judith M. says:

    I agree that Obama hates the white man. Evidence of that goes all the way back to “Dreams from My Father.” I’m just saying that Obama is fanning the flames of the Trayvon affair because he doesn’t want people talking about his failed administration. Wouldn’t want the people to focus on “Fast and Furious”, record gas prices, record un- and under-employment, Solyndra, top donors engaging in fraud, or any of that, now would he?

  34. RICH says:

    Sweep the Leg, you are nothing but a racist punk. You are no different than the people you fear. How long you been in the KKK, psychopath?

    “I sincerely, and I mean it, hope that you or a loved one of yours, is an upcoming victim”

    Fucking nut job.

    This blog has recently become a haven for nut jobs. Congratulations Dave. It has degenerated into the same type of stupidity we often read about coming from the left.

    When you morons force the rest of us to lose our 2nd amendment rights, we’ll have no one to blame but you, the ignorant assholes. My suggestion. Get a fucking clue. Educate yourself when deadly force is authorized and when it isn’t.

    Oh, FYI nutjobs: The State is building its case. When Zimmerman loses in court, you inbreds will be left dazed and confused, not understanding that your ignorant asses are also real fucking dangers to society. Most of you are either too stupid or blinded by race to understand this. Big surprise.

    Yes the liberal media sucks. Yes they make this a racial issue. Guess what. So does Dave Blount. You’re all are fooling yourselves if you think otherwise. Another big fucking surprise.

    So long These 3 years have been fun. Unfortunately, you’ve turned into that which you mock.


  35. RICH says:

    Juduth M, you are right. But good luck with that.

  36. Tim from TK says:

    RICH decompensates:

    “This blog has recently become a haven for nut jobs.”

    Only since you showed up.

    ” It has degenerated into the same type of stupidity we often read about coming from the left.”

    Thanks, in no small part, to your generally leftist and generally ill-informed, hence stupid, “contributions”.

    “Educate yourself when deadly force is authorized and when it isn’t.”

    Sorry, buttercup, you are the one who has gotten nigh every known fact of this case as they have developed wrong so far, so I would suggest it is you who is in sore need of schooling.

    “Most of you are either too stupid or blinded by race to understand this.”

    To no one’s surprise, you fail at introspection also.

    “So long”

    Nice pout, goes well with your tantrum.

  37. AC says:

    When you morons force the rest of us to lose our 2nd amendment rights, we’ll have no one to blame but you, the ignorant assholes. My suggestion. Get a fucking clue. Educate yourself when deadly force is authorized and when it isn’t.

    Zimmerman exercised his Second Amendment right to stop an aggravated assault and you would feed him first to the socialist crocodile, hoping it eats gun owners like you last.

    Your approach to the Second Amendment results in us going down the path of the UK, where guns are banned, self-defense outlawed, and the public left with only a limited selection of C&R and heavily licensed weapons which can never be used in self-defense.

    Your way is wrong.

    Standing with stand your ground is the right thing to do.

    I have already let my Florida state representatives know that if they weaken stand your ground to any degree then I (and others) will begin pumping unlimited amounts of money into their opposition, including deranged third party nutjobs designed to split the vote.

    Nobody who does not stand with stand your ground will ever represent me.

    I’ve had to stand my ground against thuggish “youth” before. Fortunately, no shots had to be fired.

    If they had, people like you would have condemned me to a certain death at the hands of a racist inmate inside a jail awaiting trial.

  38. AC says:

    Oh, FYI nutjobs: The State is building its case. When Zimmerman loses in court, you inbreds will be left dazed and confused, not understanding that your ignorant asses are also real fucking dangers to society. Most of you are either too stupid or blinded by race to understand this. Big surprise.

    It’s going to be no billed. Even ABC admits that Zimmerman’s head was beat to holy hell.

    When it finally is no billed, should we expect to see you fraternizing with the communist mobs calling for “racial justice” against completely unaffiliated innocents? Are you going to be egging on the people who want to burn my city to the ground?

  39. TonyD95B says:

    RE: RICH at April 1, 2012 at 2:35 pm (earlier thread):

    Rich claims, “As a former instructor on use of force (apparently that qualifies me as being narcisisstic), I state my professional opinion on this one incident and throughout various threads I am called liberal, vulture, dishonest, moron, stupid, dumbass, narcissist and idiot.”

    “Former instructor on the use of force”????

    As someone who has received such training, I can tell from Baron Von RICH-tofen’s statements here that he knows absolutely NOTHING about this subject. The very fact that it is such an emotional issue for him illustrates that pretty well.

    His obsession with size and especially weight indicate that he’s never even been in an actual fight before, let alone had any training, and his “logic” is absolutely laughable.

    This is also not a “gun issue”. Yes, a firearm was used, and that always gets the Loopy Loony Left’s collective panties in a bunch – but the real issue here is self-defense, which is a basic human right.

    RICHie’s statements also indicate an ignorance of basic law. Treyvon Martin is no “victim” – from all of the evidence and credible testimony presented so far, it looks like he was actually the agressor.

    Yes, RICH is just another one of the vultures perched on Trayvon Martin’s grave.

  40. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    When you morons force the rest of us to lose our 2nd amendment rights, we’ll have no one to blame but you, the ignorant assholes. My suggestion. Get a fucking clue. Educate yourself when deadly force is authorized and when it isn’t.
    What should my second amendment rights have to do with this case ?
    If or when they come for Zimmerman, it damn well be for something other than having the audacity to defend himself.

    How can government grant “authorization” to self preserve ?
    How much time did Zimmerman have to pour through case law ?
    Libs argue only government can protect you
    This same government that is handing out guns to drug cartels

    Educate yourself when deadly force is authorized and when it isn’t.

    This is exactly what the left hopes to “redefine”
    How ironic

    Why fight for your second amendment rights, if not for your basic right to self preservation ?
    You seem to have convicted Zimmerman the moment he pulled the trigger, just for pulling it.
    You said you train people to defend themselves.
    And you prattle on over the physical size difference in this case

    Where is Zimmerman’s legal obligation to exhaust any other remedy, such as anything he may have learned on Kung Fu ?
    Why do you believe there is some checklist he must run down in his brain, while it is being slammed into the sidewalk
    Now, that being said if some evidence somewhere suggests Zimmerman did MORE than merely follow and maybe INITIATED the aggression, circumstances MAY change.
    I believe this is a MUCH more reasonable stance than a conviction in the court of public opinion based on a scream on a tape
    But my point is that with the evidence presented so far, any conviction and/or knee jerk changes in law regarding self defense or right to carry based on current facts on the ground would erode my rights
    But that’s the point, right ?

    Also, the framers actually reasoned that the second amendment grants an unconditional right to bear arms for Self-Defense and for rebellion against a tyrannical government
    As seen in Illinois and DC, we are finally getting it right
    What “nut jobs”, right Rich ?

  41. Noelegy says:

    Regardless of who started what, if Martin had grabbed Zimmerman’s gun and shot him, we’d never have even heard of this story. Well, maybe from the anti-gun crowd: “See? See? Legally owned guns can be taken away from their owners and used against them!”

  42. 70Stage1 says:

    Noelegy: Amen, brother.

  43. TonyD95B says:

    RE: 70Stage1 at April 3, 2012 at 12:00 pm:

    As in Buick???

  44. white_Polluter says:


    Sorry to have to agree with RICH, but I, too would appreciate some moderation in the name-calling and sophomoric attempts at humor. Is this going to be a blog for information? Or for juvenile masturbatory wisecracks?

    I’d like to hear all sides of the issue. Tim- thanks for the links. They were informational. Maybe next time couch them in terms that doesn’t antagonize the other side of the issue and you’ll have a better chance of winning elections. Rich- hang in there, bud. I hope you stay on the board.

    Lot of unanswered questions in this case but the questions about the media have already been answered. It is discouraging to see how much closer we come to Orwell’s 1984 with each passing year. The only consolation is that not only even-handed persons, but also those leaning left, must acknowledge bias of this magnitude or risk appearing fools.

    A couple months back, Beck did a one-size-fits-all apology woven from several statements made by various liberal politicians. Kind of makes me wonder when the MSM will just take random snippets of language from conservatives and weave them into whatever statements they wish.

  45. white_Polluter says:


    You sincerely hope RICH or a loved one is the next victim?

    Really uncalled for. That kind of crap belongs at the Daily Kos. Embarrassing.

  46. 70Stage1 says:

    Tony D95B: Yup, as in Buick! I’m an old car guy, have 3 GS’s, one of them a Stage 1. Oh, and also a 70 Boss 302 29K mile survivor.

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