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Mar 29 2012

Numbers Tell the True Story

Even if the governmedia spin were correct and the shooting of Trayvon Martin were not a desperate act of self-defense, and even if you categorize the self-identified Hispanic George Zimmerman as white, the case would only deserve national interest as a man bites dog story. No amount of Establishment Left propaganda is going to change the fact that violent crime is disproportionately committed by blacks. Via the FBI, here are some homicide stats you won’t see on alphabet network news:

homicide-stats-by-race

Although they provide about half of the faces in TV commercials, blacks make up only 12% of the actual population of the USA.

Time to stop encouraging violence by demonizing whites and absolving blacks of responsibility.

Hat tip: The Real Revo. On a tip from TaterSalad.



40 Responses to “Numbers Tell the True Story”

  1. Jim says:

    But, but, but – these numbers do not provide for “liberal guilt”.

  2. Doug says:

    Although they provide about half of the faces in TV commercials

    and 100% of so-called ‘music’ aka MTV.

  3. Hail The Amberlamps! says:

    Twelve percent of the population commits 43% of all homicides.

    Ultraviolent, hyperviolent. A Clockwork Orange violent.

  4. TheRonPaulSteve says:

    The greatest phyiscal threat to black people is other black people.

  5. AC says:

    The criminal element here in Florida was bolstered by soft on crime RINO Charlie Crist, who didn’t support the police and let the courts clog up with dragged-out cases. He also eliminated the electric chair.

  6. TED says:

    Only HALF the faces in the commericals but THEY always get to call the white guy “Dumbass”. Can you imagine if it were the other way around?

  7. Sweep the leg says:

    We are headed down South Africa’s path because too many otherwise normal whites fall easily into the “not all blacks are (fill in the blank)” and delight in branding any who see the truth (that blacks have – directly and indirectly, ruined America; and that there is simply no way for blacks and whites to live in peace and prosperity without an apartheid type of system in place), as KKK racists. Rather than mere observers of reality. That word…

    What our country is experiencing now, is the logical conclusion of trying to uplift blacks. History has shown that they can’t do any better, and NEVER have. It is well past time to stop trying, and to start considering reality-based solutions. “Civil rights” only resulted in Americans LOSING their right of free association and private property. It also unleashed real black behavior on us.

    And if you think I’m a rayciss for merely trying to open eyes; for pointing out that MAYBE 5-10% of blacks are unmitigated, American loving patriots, that’s on you. I can hear Ghost frothing over this right now…

    Remember the faces who have lifted little Trayvon (seriously??) on high. Not simply “ghetto thugs”, but your president; elected officials; the afleets you worship; and on and on.

    5-10% love America, and are patriots? That more than erases the “not ALL blacks….” thing for me. Remember the faces. We know the street thugs are against us. What we need to realize is so are the Obama types.

    God help us. But we tried to lift them up. All we got were a government dependent “middle class”; corrupt elected officials; beat whitey night; a true racist in Obama, etc…We gave away the country that Washington gave us, for fucking what? To try and fix the unfixable? To try to placate the hate? To try to even up the IQ scores?

    Didn’t work, because it CAN’T work…

  8. AC says:

    The failure of the welfare state and debased media culture extends beyond blacks. We’ve tried big society approaches to uplifting whites out of the slummy trailer parks, and what do we have today? Greater welfare dependency, all the while ignorant people continue to breed in great numbers with ignorant people, raising ignorant children, in an environment saturated with Jerry Springer and other intellectual garbage.

    The MTV rap culture of ignorance and criminality has infected poor, urban white youth, too.

    The corrosive influence of big government and big Hollywood can cross all color and cultural lines.

  9. Hail The Amberlamps! says:

    AC, commonality of ignorance, dependency and intellectual garbage doesn’t explain the superior homicide rate of black males vs. white males.

    There is something or things else in operation with regards to violence in black males.

    That is the discussion that is suppressed.

  10. AC says:

    And even the most crime ridden of black slums is far outdone by Ciudad Juarez, Mexico.

  11. Hail The Amberlamps! says:

    Mexico is a different laboratory. You will agree that Mexico is a failed narco-state. Its violence revolves majorly around the drug trade in a lawless environment.

    There is abundant, horrible violence in sub-Saharan Africa. It is a collection of failed dictatorships and corruption. Billions of development dollars are poured into it, generation after generation, yet Africans still die of starvation and live in squalor including relatives of BHO.

    We are not talking about Mexico, Africa or Norway though are we.

  12. Beef says:

    Blacks kill whites at a rate 13 times higher than that of whites killing blacks:

    http://inductivist.blogspot.com/2012/03/interracial-murder.html

  13. AC says:

    HTA, my point was that the rotten environment of that failed narco-state produced a swarm of killers and criminals lacking all humanity, just as government welfare and corrosive Hollywood influence has promoted the sort of dependence and ignorance which fuels crime in the black community.

    Everywhere we look, freedom, liberty, capitalism, hard work, and the rule of law produce healthy and vibrant cultures, whereas dependence, ignorance, lawlessness, pettiness, and intellectual garbage produces people who behave like animals. It doesn’t matter whether we’re talking about Detroit, Juarez, or Sub-Saharan Africa.

    Every nation infected with a Marxist government has been ruined.

    Every nation which has adopted the last resort of monetary debasement has failed.

    Every nation which brutalizes its own people lags behind the free world.

    The problem with the black community are the cultural Marxists like Professor Bell who gin up bogus theories to justify brokenness and dysfunction. The so-called leaders want to embrace and normalize what is not working, rather than adopting the values of communities and cultures which do succeed, even if it means crossing racial lines.

    On the flip side, why is it that 20% of all Nobel Laureates are Jewish, despite Jews only accounting for 0.2% of the world’s population? Obviously, Jewish culture is doing something right to produce children who grow into such monumentous achievers.

  14. Sam Adams says:

    Hail The Amberlamps! says:
    March 29, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    AC, commonality of ignorance, dependency and intellectual garbage doesn’t explain the superior homicide rate of black males vs. white males.

    There is something or things else in operation with regards to violence in black males.
    _____________

    Percent of black babies born into single parent households: 70+%.
    Percent of Hispanic babies born into single parent households: 50%
    Percent of all US babies born into single parent homes: 40%.

    The majority of black boys do not have male parents to guide and correct them. Bad parenting=increased criminal behavior, more trouble in schools, increased rates of single parent babies, poor families.

    Stop providing incentives for single women to get pregnant and keep their kids. If they knew that getting pregnant would result in them having to live in momma’s basement, fewer girls would make bad choices.

  15. AC says:

    One of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard a race hustler say was that expecting black people to be on time was a racist expectation. I don’t remember which moonbat professor made that statement, but the jist was that timeliness was a white cultural preference, not an objectively desirable value. Therefore, in his demented opinion, people should respect tardiness among blacks because the black community is used to being flexible about times.

    That line of thinking is racist hogwash. There is nothing inherent to blacks which prevents them from being prompt and true to a schedule other than poverty pimps who want to put children on a failing track of failed values.

    It all has to do with whether people are raised with the right values or the wrong values.

    Despite grinding poverty, many Mexicans resist the lure of easy money and stay out of the narco lifestyle. Their positive choices are proven correct when Z-40 doesn’t chop them into bits and dump them outside an elementary school. Those who grow up listening to the narcocorridos and aspiring to the fast lifestyle don’t live long.

  16. Hail The Amberlamps! says:

    AC I agree with everything you said. But there is another determinate of success or non-success, including propensity to low impulse control, that correlates with IQ.

    Verbotten territory. Radioactive. Just ask James Watson who skimmed the issue with regards to international development. Or Bruce Lahn: http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2006/06/bruce-lahn-moving-on-to-non-iq.php

    There may exist biological limits on average IQ that correlate with race.

    Much of the original work was published in American Psychologist (1996), a review of which can be found on wikipedia:

    There was a long-standing 15 point or 1 SD difference between the intelligence test scores of African Americans and White Americans, though it might have narrowed slightly in the then recent years. The difference was largest on those tests, verbal or non-verbal, that best represented the general intelligence factor (g).

    An average IQ of 100 would put a negative 15 point standard deviation for blacks at an average of IQ of 85.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence:_Knowns_and_Unknowns

    A correlation of large population’s IQ and violent crime, but not broken down by race, simply demonstrating the correlation of IQ and violent crime was demonstrated by using state’s average public school aggregate IQ:

    Estimated state IQ correlated inversely with violent crime (r = − 0.58). Thus, states with higher estimated state IQ have greater gross state product, citizens with better health, more effective state governments, and less violent crime.

    http://www.people.vcu.edu/~mamcdani/Publications/McDaniel%20(2006)%20Estimating%20state%20IQ.pdf

  17. son of a preacher man says:

    “History has shown that they can’t do any better, and NEVER have…”

    You obviously have little knowledge of black history prior to LBJ’s Great Society.

    Simply put no American blacks no Blues, no Jazz, no Country, no Bluegrass, and no Rock and Roll. And that is just one area of American society.

  18. Sam Adams says:

    Hail The Amberlamps! says:
    March 29, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    AC I agree with everything you said. But there is another determinate of success or non-success, including propensity to low impulse control, that correlates with IQ.

    Verbotten territory. Radioactive. Just ask James Watson who skimmed the issue with regards to international development. Or Bruce Lahn: http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2006/06/bruce-lahn-moving-on-to-non-iq.php

    There may exist biological limits on average IQ that correlate with race.
    ______________

    Sorry, I prefer to believe:
    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    Specifically, we are all sons and daughters of a loving God who created us. Our potential is to become like him.

    as opposed to the doctrine of Charles Darwin, which leads to the concept that some races might have evolved further than others.

    That is the basis for genocide.

  19. bobdog says:

    Racemongers and our own Attorney General like to complain that those 12% of black Americans are unfairly picked on by “society”, because they make up 35.3% of our prison population. Surely this means that racial injustice exists in our court system.

    This is from ABC News, June 8, 2008:

    “Race: Black males continue to be incarcerated at an extraordinary rate. Black males make up 35.4 percent of the jail and prison population — even though they make up less than 10 percent of the overall U.S population. Four percent of U.S. black males were in jail or prison last year, compared to 1.7 percent of Hispanic males and .7 percent of white males. In other words, black males were locked up at almost six times the rate of their white counterparts. ”

    Looking at the above FBI crime rate statistics, however, black Americans account for 43.2% of all crime, which suggests quite another conclusion.

    Now it may mean that social deprivation, years of discrimination and decades of drug use, the decline of the inner city family, and years of union dominated public education are responsible for much of this disparity.

    Or it could mean, as some sociologists have suggested, that some segments of our society simply glorify ignorance, drug abuse, violence and crime as social values.

    I kinda know where I come out on this subject, and it’s not the same as Mr. Holder’s opinion that blacks are unfairly picked on because of racism. The most dangerous part of town for blacks is the black part of town, for the same reason that junk bonds pay the highest interest. They’re both risky places to be.

    That may make me a racist to most liberals, but they won’t send their kids to school there, either.

  20. Sweep the leg says:

    “…Simply put no American blacks no Blues, no Jazz, no Country, no Bluegrass, and no Rock and Roll. And that is just one area of American society.”

    Right. But playing music with the instruments that whites invented is a looooong way from doing the inventing. Perhaps you’d like to school us on all the wonderful things that have come out of Africa – without the aid of white people. Like a written language? Nope. THAT list goes on forever…

    Given the materials to work with, blacks have had modest success at mimicking. Without that, and when left on their own with no structured rules they have to live by (say, law and order?) – the “civil rights” nonsense did essentially that. It freed them from the “oppressive” white man/system – they always regress to their norm. Always. Detroit comes to mind, as does South Africa, Haiti, etc…

    You enjoy all that jazz and basketball, and Will Smith…I’d trade it all in a heartbeat for life as we used to know it…

  21. Hail The Amberlamps! says:

    Sam I too am committed to the doctrine we AMERICANS are all endowed by our CREATOR with unalienable rights to life, liberty and to pursue happiness.

    However, that doesn’t change the inescapable empirical data reflecting heterogeneity of IQ or other physiological traits in a population.

    The data exist. To ignore them and continue as if they do not exist is antithetical to logic, IMHO.

    History proves it is national socialism, fascist authoritarianism and communism that would use the data for genocidal goals thus ignoring the Declaration of Independence. Now who claims the Declaration of Independence is racist? Which political party in the US ignores and tramples violently the Constitution to pursue its goals? Which side would select any other document besides our Declaration and Constitution if they (she, hint: scotus) were constructing a new Constitution in today?

  22. son of a preacher man says:

    “Right. But playing music with the instruments that whites invented is a looooong way from doing the inventing…”

    The banjo is based on an African instrument. You know, that instrument known to be played by southern hillybillys. Also, white people did not invent the written language.

    “they always regress to their norm”

    news flash assoul that applies to all humans.

    “oppressive” white man/system

    You mean the one prefraced on Judeo Christian ethics. Those did not start with the white man either.

    Hold anyone to a lower standard regardless of pigmentation and they will never cease to meet your expectations.

    As I said that was just one area of American society.

    Ever hear of the Tuskegee airmen?

  23. bobdog says:

    Yes, of course. But the subject is about national crime rates. Some generalization is implicit. 12% of our population (6%, really, if you presume that most crimes are committed by males – by 10 to 1) commit 43.5% of the crime in this country. And most of these crimes are committed against black victims. And of this 6%, 35% are in prison. These are undisputed facts, from reputable sources.

    Sorry. If you can’t draw a conclusion, stick to drawing houses and clouds and rainbows.

  24. Sweep the leg says:

    “…news flash assoul that applies to all humans…”

    I give you Katrina/ Haiti vs any flooding/natural disaster involving white people in the USA or Australia.

    Game, set, match.

  25. Sweep the leg says:

    “…Ever hear of the Tuskegee airmen?”

    Yes, and that fraud has been uncovered and the light of truth shone upon it.

    What’s next? IQ tests are rayciss? Detroit has nothing to do with blacks? S Africa is still a first world country? C’mon, hit me with it…

  26. Sweep the leg says:

    “oppressive” white man/system”

    That means law and order. Blacks, without an iron fist to keep them in line, do not stay in line. Ever. Anywhere.

    They prospered under Apartheid, and under Jim Crow. It forced them to behave somewhat normally (by our standards) Now? Without those systems in place? We gave up our rights so that they could…what? Why? Fast fwd to Trayvon. It NEVER ends.

    Take you head out of your ass and simply look around. Start with your own president. They cannot do it without strong, outside restraints on their natural behavior.

    It’s history, not my opinion. But hey, you go and enjoy you some rap or whatever…

  27. son of a preacher man says:

    “They prospered under Apartheid, and under Jim Crow.”

    You are an ignorant prick. Why don’t you look up when the 1st blacks were elected to the House after the abolition of slavery. Hint it was decades before Jim Crow. Pretty remarkable for mentally inferior ex-slaves and no AA to offer help.

    Apartheid and Jim Crow were designed to keep blacks in their place. Translation not next to whites. If they are all mentally inferior explain Thomas Sowell or Neil deGrasse Tyson or Duke Elington.

    Blacks have no problem with Law and order like any other person in this country provided the law is applied evenly which at this present time it mostly is not. IQ has little to do with understanding right and wrong. Black thugs exist b/c of low expectations brought on by the Great Society and welfare rewarding mothers to have children out of wed lock. Look at the statistic of men in prison that came from fatherless homes.

    Went from Jim Crow “keep them inferiors away from me” to Affirmative Action “the poor dears are to stupid to help themselves lets lower the bar”. Two sides of the same racist mind set that need those laws b/c his ethnic group is superior or so he feels.

    If you think you are special in some way based on your ethnic back ground no matter what it is, you are a loser.

    Oh and Fyi basketball was invented by a white guy from Canada. Rap was also invented by white ppl but we call them square dance callers.

    Take your condenscension and shove it up your ass.

    “To generalize is to be an idiot.” – William Blake

  28. Sweep the leg says:

    “…Blacks have no problem with Law and order…”

    Bzzzzz. Still your turn. Pick another category…

  29. son of a preacher man says:

    Check that correlation between fatherlessness and delinquent behavior yet?

  30. Numbers, tables of data, statistics, etc. – all that stuff is racist when it negatively portrays coloreds. The Trayvon case is an anomaly it defies statistic analysis because it is so rare. Non-coloreds are almost always victims at the hands of coloreds. America has been conditioned to submit to coloreds. It is sick. I thank God for Mr. Zimmerman and hope other Hispanics, Asians, and Caucasians will follow his example, get involved in the safety of their community, and lawfully carry & use firearms.

  31. Sweep the leg says:

    “…Check that correlation between fatherlessness and delinquent behavior yet?”

    Thank you for reminding us that blacks also breed without thought of marriage at a percentage that is approaching that of animals (that would be 100%) Blacks do this to themselves, as it is their nature to do so. Marriage is a concept that we introduced to them. It is not one that they prefer – here or back in the dark continent. They are not the same as us, and the only way to live “with” them, is to live apart from them.

    Hmmm. The moment we denied ourselves OUR right of free association, and were forced to interact with those that we had no intention of doing so with, what changed?

  32. Sweep the leg says:

    “… If they are all mentally inferior explain Thomas Sowell or Neil deGrasse Tyson or Duke Elington…”

    All?

    Straw man. Next…

  33. son of a preacher man says:

    “Marriage is a concept that we introduced to them. It is not one that they prefer – here or back in the dark continent. ”

    Well I know missionaries to Africa so that right there is bull shit.

    Thomas Sowell et el are strawman please explain. Let me guess they are really are just mimicking what white people tell them.

    You are no different from the black thug. Same mind set that lets you know you are special just because of ethnical background.

    “The moment we denied ourselves OUR right of free association, and were forced to interact with those that we had no intention of doing so with, what changed?”

    When did that happen? Someones forcing you to hang around black people you poor dear.

    As I said before look at the statics of black society prior to LBJ’s Great Society. Nope better just to bitch about darkie.

  34. Sweep the leg says:

    “Thomas Sowell et el are strawman please explain”

    I’ll try. You used the word “all”. That is the strawman part of your argument. Of course Thomas Sowell is not a thug. You’re just being purposefully stupid…

    “You are no different from the black thug”

    Is that so? Let’s see…I married the mother of my children, I work for a living, I do not commit violent crime nor do I call for any. I obey the law…

    “When did that happen? Someones forcing you to hang around black people you poor dear.”

    More purposeful stupidity. If you do not know what free association is (was), or do not care about it, that’s on you. “Hang around” black people? You honestly believe that is the issue? You’re trying to be clever and snide, but you just reveal your stupidity the more you respond.

    “As I said before look at the statics of black society prior to LBJ’s Great Society…”

    The “statistics” (I think you meant?) of black society? What does that even mean? If you mean that black behavior was better BEFORE we were forced to interact with them, I agree.

    But the reality is that you’re just another dopey Liberal, who will twist himself into knots in an effort to relieve blacks from any and all responsibility for their VERY OWN BEHAVIOR. We both see them as not capable, as a race (yes, some individuals, like Tom Sowell, are ok). You blame it on outside forces, as you believe that they are like little innocent children who can be easily lead astray. I see it as a hard wired feature, not a bug, in their collective system.

    History is on my side. If not, please explain Africa, and why it is the disgusting, primitive mess it is…

  35. son of a preacher man says:

    Please don’t assume what I think. I am certainly not a liberal.

    I think you have a problem with recognizing the difference between freedom of association with freedom from association. As you are the one claiming we need Jim Crow laws.

    The only place I said all was “all humans”. So you took me out of context.

    History is on your side? You make swiping generalizations about a segment of the population with out taking into consideration of other factors and erroneously assume “white people gave them” type nonsense.

    Never said anything about relieving anyone of responsibility.

    “I see it as a hard wired feature, not a bug, in their collective system.”

    That qualifies as an outside force as it suggests it is biological and beyond their control. I reject that hypothesis.

    Tell me do you post at Stormfront or follow the ideology of those who do?

  36. Sweep the leg says:

    “The only place I said all was “all humans”. So you took me out of context.”

    No I didn’t. You said exactly this:

    “Apartheid and Jim Crow were designed to keep blacks in their place. Translation not next to whites. If they are all mentally inferior explain Thomas Sowell or Neil deGrasse Tyson or Duke Elington.”

    Please point out the word “humans” here, you fucking liar…

    “That qualifies as an outside force as it suggests it is biological and beyond their control.”

    You can’t be serious. Biology, their very own biology, is an outside force?? As opposed to what? White oppression? OK, you are stupid. Their behaviors are not the fault of others’, it is WHAT THEY ARE. You honestly don’t see the diff…oh wait, Above you lied about “humans”, so asking for honesty is asking for too much. This is truly a first. Now someone’s biology is an outside force. Good grief already. At least you agreed that that would be beyond their control, which was my point…

    “History is on your side?”

    Unequivocally. Please point out a black run city or country that is not a horrible mess. It doesn’t exist, unless it was handed them by whites. It then quickly disintegrates. See: Detroit and S Africa…

    “Tell me do you post at Stormfront…”

    No, but what took you so long? Standard Liberal Shit. End an argument you can’t win by writing Stormfront…

    “I am certainly not a liberal.”

    Call yourself what you want. Your “arguments” reek of Liberalism…

    Please explain Africa to me, and take into account the head start they had. It is STILL a primitive, murderous,wasteland, filled with cannibalism and slavery. It is STILL that way.

  37. son of a preacher man says:

    Yes since Thomas Sowell exists they are not all mentally inferior. Please do not twist my words. You are the one blabbering about race.

    You want me to comment on black run cities and countries but do not understand the term black society?

    No I did reference “all humans” as suffering of the same malidy known as human nature in an earlier thead. I merely looked past my “all inferior” reference which I implied from you.

    Are you actually reading what I write?

    Society will fail regardless who is running it when you run anti-thetical to certain principles. But it is all about blood and soil right?

    “Please explain Africa to me, and take into account the head start they had. ”

    What head start? You claim white people gave them the written language and law and order.

  38. Sweep the leg says:

    “No I did reference “all humans” as suffering of the same malidy known as human nature in an earlier thead”

    Oh! Sorry, but I don’t cross reference every thread here, looking for your pearls of wisdom. I kind of focus on what you actually say to me during our discussion…

    “Are you actually reading what I write?

    Yes, which is why you look like such a fool. You’ve drifted from the original dustup, because you really have nothing but “Stormfront”, when all is said and done…

    “What head start?”

    ??!! The thousands of years head start? The “cradle of civilization” thing?

    “What head start? You claim white people gave them the written language and law and order.”

    I have no idea what you mean here. I said they function best (though not good) when kept under strict law and order, and I said they never even developed their own written language…

    Look, you are making no headway here, as the “it’s not their fault” thing is too transparent and worn out at this point. It’s like the desperate “Stormfront” thing you tried, as a way of ending the discussion.

    You go celebrate rap, and the banjo, and Tom Sowell. But if you’re white, just remember to keep your eyes wide open, and your powder dry. Reality sucks, but it’ll keep you alive if you let it. Later…

  39. son of a preacher man says:

    “Look, you are making no headway here,..”
    That is certainly the truth.

    “as the “it’s not their fault”
    Never made that claim. Saying that they are inferior as a race is the corollary to that argument though.

    “You go celebrate rap, and the banjo, and Tom Sowell. But if you’re white, just remember to keep your eyes wide open, and your powder dry. Reality sucks, but it’ll keep you alive if you let it. Later…”

    What is that about accusing someone of something or of being of a certain mind set? Liberal tacit was it?

    I asked a question if you posted on stormfront. I did not accuse you of anything as you did with me. Like when you accused me of being Liberal in the previous post before I posed my question. I already can tell you are a white racist just trying to assertain what type. Don’t want to make any swiping generalisations.

    Don’t worry I have no problem recognizing humans looking for a reason to act like savages no matter their ethnic background.

    “Let’s see…I married the mother of my children…”

    That it implies you had children out of wedlock.
    Let’s see the whites who raised me told me to marry and then have children. I call your whiteness in to question. Yes I am being snide and condescending.

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