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Nov 29 2011

Open Thread


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  1. SR says:

    Things About Obama That Didn’t Matter To the MSM

  2. OEFvet says:

    I would believe it if he wasnt so freakin dumb!

  3. Johnny Rotton says:

    Obama’s Job Approval Drops Below Jimmy Carter’s…

  4. Michael Savage Exposes Newt Gingrich as Global Warming Sell Out…

    I don’t know about you, but watching him sitting there, snuggled up to that commie bitch makes me want to blow chunks.

  5. dimes says:

    That’s a little on the nose, don’t you think?

  6. Berlet98 says:

    Obamacrat Slurs, Snipes, and Smears

    The other day, Rush Limbaugh warned whomever eventually wins the Republican nomination for the presidency to be prepared for an avalanche of vicious assaults from the re-elect Obama billion dollar attack machine.

    Limbaugh was wrong in one respect: That onslaught began months ago with the only distinction being that the viciousness is mostly emanating from Obama acolytes in his mainstream media rather than directly from the White House.

    All this year, we have witnessed every Republican hopeful mercilessly pilloried as soon as he or she gains any traction in the GOP sweepstakes. Pawlenty, Trump, Christie, Bachmann, Gingrich, Cain have each had their turn being attacked. If a day goes by without some leftist guttersnipe taking unsubstantiated pot shots at a candidate, Leno and Letterman are ready to ridicule them at night with nasty derision–all in good fun, of course.

    The only Republican to escape leftist castigation, relatively, has been Mitt Romney, leading to conjecture that the left wants him to win the nomination because they expect to whup him, just as Carterites were eager to get at Ronald Reagan.

    What was it Obama said about the need for more civility? Evidently, the mainstreamers never got that memo.

    One of the leaders of the MSM attack pack, the Washington Post, was apparently running out of ammunition with which to abuse the latest target, Newt Gingrich, so WaPo’s Aaron Blake resorted to the internet to gather more dirt. Blake tweeted for his fellow Twitter tweeps to send him all “outlandish/incorrect predictions and quotes” by or about Gingrich that they could dig up or make up.

    Note: Blake was in search of the “outlandish/incorrect” rather than the truth. . .
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  7. Bob Roberts says:

    OEFvet says: November 29, 2011 at 8:52 pm
    I would believe it if he wasnt so freakin dumb!
    As I stated when they were saying how dumb Bush (II) was, you don’t get to be President of the United States by being dumb. Although, now that I look at the last few Democrats – Carter, Clinton, Obama – I am starting to wonder if I need to reconsider.

  8. Bob Roberts says:

    conservativeBC says: November 29, 2011 at 9:38 pm
    Give me a current Republican candidate that does not have a major flaw, please, if you can. As I’ve been saying, once again we’re stuck picking the best of the worst, it seems. At least the one fact, that ANY Republican would be better than ANY Democrat, seems clear. Anyone want to suggest a Democrat and a Republican that might prove me wrong?

  9. Bob Roberts says:

    Even the Democrat controlled senate is finally growing a pair.

    “We’re no longer going to have an absurd result that if we capture you overseas where you’re planning an attack on the United States, we can blow you up or put you in a military prison indefinitely, but if you make it to America, all of a sudden you get Miranda rights and you go to federal court,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham.

    Tuesday’s 61-37 vote to buck Mr. Obama and grant the military dibs exposed a deep rift within the Democratic Party. Sixteen Democrats and one independent who caucuses with them defied the veto threat and joined 44 Republicans.

  10. murray says:

    OWS and North Korea – Approving Hand Signals…

  11. Bob Roberts says:

    Democrats, known for their perennial weakness regarding matters of self defense, have a history of ignoring obvious warnings until it’s too late.

    Pearl Harbor is not the end of the story. Clinton had plenty of warning that Osama and his network were a real and continuing threat to the U.S. Instead of acting on that information, he built walls between various federal agencies and prevented them from sharing the information that certainly would have prevented 9/11. Then, conveniently, the left, with the eager help of the media, blamed Bush. Bush, meanwhile, was distracted by all the nonsense Clinton did specifically to distract him and to be able to point and say, “Bush is anti-science, anti-environment”, etc. Pop Quiz: How long did Al Gore’s attempt to steal the election provide a pretense for Clinton to lock Bush out of his transition offices and thus obstruct, delay and interfere with the standing up of the next administration? Anyone know?

  12. Bob Roberts says:

    Obamanomics I Despite sinking home prices, more and more Americans can’t afford one. How are those promises to help the middle class working out? Not so good, eh?

    Obamanomics II Obamanomics – the gift that keeps on giving… disaster and despair!

  13. Grunt says:


    And we all know what happened to Solomon when he let his many wives of ‘differing’ faiths build shrines on his land…

    @Bob Roberts…

    Yeah…I know…and oddly, I was saying very similar a while ago and getting drummed out by the shrilling of “Nu-UHH! Bush Lied! Thousands Died! Blood For Oil!! Slant Drilling!!”

    Meanwhile, the left patently ignored the fact that there was an issue with the oil-for-food program, that Clinton didn’t even want to bother showing up for the first attempt on WTC…etc.

    They’re far more concerned in pointing out motes in our eyes and avoiding the girders of theirs.

  14. Berlet98 says:

    Barney Frank, R.I.P.

    No, Barney Frank isn’t dead. He isn’t among the deceased but he is being virtually canonized by Long Island’s resident nitwit congressman Steve Israel as “a champion of American families.”

    Rep. Israel has one peculiar concept of “family.”

    Called “the most powerful homosexual in Congress,” Barney is merely retiring so he can rest up in peace, away from the slings and arrows of political infighting, his scandal-plagued career, and those meanie Republicans who keep dredging up his complicity in the 2008 banking debacle that led to Obama’s continuing Great Recession.

    Barney is surrendering his position as ranking member of the House Financial Services Committee, the same committee he headed during the banking meltdown when he and then-Senator Chris Dodd forced financial institutions and their buddies at Frannie Mae and Freddie Mac to loan vast sums of money to people who barely had a pot to pee in.

    However, Frank and Dodd felt they should have a shot at the American Dream, and then vote for Frank and Dodd.

    Barney’s dream and one of America’s nightmares will be over next year since he has unexpectedly announced he won’t run for re-election after 32 years representing the good, people of the most liberal state in the union, Massachusetts. Democrats will probably turn over his committee job to another class act, Rep. Maxine Waters.

    Barney’s reasons for packing it in, so to speak, are debatable.

    Although his advancing years and the re-districting of his ultra-safe 4th c.d., home to the leftist bastions of Dartmouth and Wellesley, may have played a part, Barney was somewhat vague in his announcement saying only that he didn’t want to introduce himself to new voters and that he had “other things I’d like to do.”

    Good thinking, Barn!

    Convincing a whole new electorate that he is still “the liberal lion of the House” and thereby worthy of their vote would be challenging enough for 71 year old Barney. Persuading them that a former owner of a homosexual bordello should represent them could pose an even greater obstacle, even in Massachusetts. . .
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  15. Sam Adams says:

    “We’re no longer going to have an absurd result that if we capture you overseas where you’re planning an attack on the United States, we can blow you up or put you in a military prison indefinitely, but if you make it to America, all of a sudden you get Miranda rights and you go to federal court,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham”

    Sorry, Bob, but the proposed bill is simply unconstitutional (plus it gives the president too much power). No way would I allow the president to decide who is and isn’t a terrorist, and who can be jailed indefinitely.

  16. Smorfia48 says:

    The 99% have spoken! And they want obnoxious Occupy idiots to shut the fuck up and quit disrupting other people’s events:

  17. IslandLifer says:

    I’ve seen that documentary and it’s creepy. After an American (if I remember correctly) fixes the eyesight of many N. Koreans and they pay their respect in a cultish/twisted brainwashed display of praising the almighty dictator Kimche Dong Ill. What a nightmare those poor people are living!

  18. RICH says:


  19. Fiberal says:

    Unless you have had some experience with them, you might not know just how personable, amiable, intelligent and trusting a horse can be.

    Throughout history, man has depended upon and befriended horses. To know horses is to understand that they are just children.

    That is the reason why eating a horse is almost universally shunned.

    But not for muslim BO.

    BO against campaign promises, has now officially signed off on the slaughter of horses for food in the U.S.

    Do we really need to eat horse meat? How about taking your children to watch horses lined up in a slaughterhouse? “See Johnny? This is where we get our horse meat, Son! Here. Take the hammer and hit that little one….no, not on the leg. His head. His head!”

    This kind of callousness should not be officially condoned by the U.S. government.

    Even under BO, we need to have some standard of decency.

    Here’s the article:

    Okay. Just had to get that out.
    You can go back to Lao.

  20. GoY says:

    In Philadelphia, an incompetent educrat was getting paid $346,000 to mismanage that city’s public schools.

    It cost the state $905,000 to buy her out of her contract and get rid of her.

    However, this particular parasite was so determined to continue feeding on her host that, $905,000 payout in hand, she immediately applied for unemployment benefits.

    This is why the states are bankrupt and the public schools suck.

    Also, she looks like a fat version of Wesley Snipes drag character in ‘To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything…’

  21. Ghost of FA Hayak says:

    Most horse meat as far as I know is exported.
    I suppose it is all in how one looks at the horse, as a pet or as an animal.
    Here, horses seemed to be mostly a passing fad, rising and then falling with the housing boom and bust, with suburbanites moving into rural locals to build their dream house, and even more elaborate horse barns.
    But what happens when reality comes in to crash their party ?
    But then there are the capable owners of aged horses unable to graze properly because of worn teeth, who fret about what they know they must eventually do while they hand feed it a diet of pure certified seed oats.

  22. Ghost of FA Hayak says:

    As I began to read that one, I started laughing out loud as I kept hearing this voice in my head repeating over and over;
    “The law of unintended consequences”

  23. Just sayin' says:

    Bob Roberts says:
    November 29, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    “Give me a current Republican candidate that does not have a major flaw…”

    Michele Bachmann

  24. Sinister66 says:

    Fiberal says:

    Horse tastes kinda like buffalo.

  25. StanInTexas says:

    No, Sinister, IT DOES NOT!

    So which have you never eaten? Horse or buffalo?

  26. SR says:

    Boston University installs footbaths for Muslim prayer…

  27. Sinister66 says:


    Morning little buddy.
    Hows everything going today. Good I hope.

    Buffalo is sold at your local Raleys and is great BBQd. Horse is a little tougher but tastes similiar and is easily available from private butchers. I had to drive to Elko, NV.
    You should give it a try.

  28. StanInTexas says:

    Not little and DEFINITELY NOT your buddy, Internet tough-guy!

    I have tried both, and they taste NOTHING alike. And neither tastes like chicken!

    I now expect a story from you how you killed both a buffalo and a horse with your bare hands and a Swiss-Army knife so only you know for sure how they both taste!


  29. Fiberal says:


    My post doesn’t address the economics of killing horses.



    Yes, I imagine you would have to go to private butchers that like to kill horses. It’s just a matter of how low you will go to find one.

  30. Sinister66 says:


    You are sure a funny little guy.
    But as I said and almost everyone I know that tried horse, think it tastes similiar to bullalo. thats just our opinion. We can still have opinions, right?

  31. StanInTexas says:

    Opinions, Internet Tough-Guy? Oh, you have plenty of those, and they are forever changing, which is why we laugh AT you, and not with you!

    You are welcome to have the ‘opinion’ that buffalo meat tastes like pumpkin pie. That does not make it so. Keep that fact in mind and perhaps your posts here will be less idiotic.

  32. Sinister66 says:

    Fiberal says:

    If you dont mind me asking, how do you decide which animals are food and which arent? Do you feel the same way about horse meat being used in dog food?

  33. lao says:

    Wikipedia, a source guaranteed to be TRUE sez: Horse meat has a slightly sweet taste reminiscent of a combination of beef and venison.

  34. Sinister66 says:

    StanInTexas says:

    Whenever anyone says ” this tastes like that” its always a personal opinion.

    And since you brough it up please list those changing opinions of mine.

  35. StanInTexas says:

    Well, Internet-tough-guy, first you said that if a person pulled a kinfe on you, you would fight them with your bare hands, because you were “trained” and you could. Then you said that you would pull a knife on them “to be fair”, and that you would NEVER pull a gun, even though you carry “all the time”.

    And then later, when you were being rightly ridiculed for your idiocy, you calimed you never said any of that at all.

  36. StanInTexas says:

    I was wondering when LaoZee would grace us with one of his moronic pronouncements!

  37. Ghost of FA Hayak says:

    I probably should not have included the Star and Sickle article, with it’s innuendo about forclosures CAUSING horse deaths, but the point was that there are a bunch of past their prime / unwanted horses out there, and the ugliness, or practicality, in the notion of a slaughter plant is in the eyes of the beholder.

  38. Fiberal says:

    I don’t why either you or your “little buddy” Lao-Z would think anyone cares about what guys like you think something tastes like.

    Your opinions apparently revolve around your sense of taste. But to your credit, your discernment about food is shared with my dogs.

    So at least you can be proud of something.

  39. Fiberal says:

    “the ugliness, or practicality, in the notion of a slaughter plant is in the eyes of the beholder.”

    Yes, and as far as aesthetics go, you’ve picked a real winner there in a line of panicking horses.

    As far as practicality goes, you might want to think just a little bit about the trade-off of slaughtering horses with a modicum of nobility of mind.

  40. KHarn says:

    I have cattlemen in my family tree and can tell you all that there are several very good reasons why we do not RIDE STEERS and EAT HORSES.

  41. Sinister66 says:

    StanInTexas says:
    You need to comprehend what you read.
    I said i would prefer to knuckle up in a confrontation and I would pull my weapon if one was pulled on me. I dont know anyone with any stones that would do otherwise. If you think I said different then link to it.

    Now you claim I am constantly changing my opinion. You have yet to show this to be true.
    Keep trying.

  42. StanInTexas says:

    Already proven, sister. Too bad your can’t cover it up with your lies.

    Why don’t you beat the holiday rush and run away now.

  43. Sinister66 says:

    Fiberal says

    If I was hungry enough I would eat my dog too. My take on it is, depending on how dire the situation was there isnt an animal alive, other then people, that wouldnt become dinner

  44. Sinister66 says:

    StanInTexas says:

    What you posted was you opinion on what you think I said.

    Let me help you.

    1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

    2.a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

    Keep trying.

  45. StanInTexas says:

    I posted what you said, Sister. Sorry you are too much os a pissy little bitch to stand by your own words.

    Why are you still here?

  46. Sinister66 says:


    Prove yourself right and link to what I said.
    Still dont see anything on my “changing opinions” so that my be BS also.

  47. Fiberal says:

    For you Hit and Runners,

    Just for your information, thoughtful people have a real problem with cruelty and stupidity. So it does no good for the Federal government to promote animal cruelty in any capacity.

    And of course, you might expect BO to do just that. As he has done in the promotion of the slaughter of horses.

    Humans are unnecessarily cruel in any event.

    And why? Because of powerlessness.

    – thugs like being thugs and work hard to be thugs bc it gives them power over others. And they have to demonstrate that they are thuggish and powerful. So they torture animals (Michael Vick).

    And the less powerful but equally stupid respect them.

    (c’mon keep reading; I’ll get to you in a min, Sinister)

    So you can rarely object to animal cruelty in a public forum without someone who very low on that totem pole, eventually tries to play “thug” by bragging to you about killing an animal.

    Same kind of guy who brags about beating up someone with a knife with his bare hands. Wow.

    And of course, you have the guys sublimating their powerlessness by talking blah, blah, blahing about killing animals for “food”. Right.

    But its how they convince themselves they are thuggish.

    And if the guy can’t go out and beat up another guy to confirm their power, they beat up women or their wives. And if they can’t beat up their wives, they beat up their kids. And if they can’t beat up their kids, they torture animals.

    One way or another, they mask their powerlessness. And always look for an opportunity to get powerful where they can find it.

    What it amounts to, is that powerless, weak and stupid people just really want to kill something.

    Don’t believe it? Well, show me a muslim or a criminal or someone talking about the “taste” of a horse and I’ll show you stupidity and cruelty.

  48. StanInTexas says:

    If you are too damn stupid to remember what you said, that is hardly my problem SISTER.

    Check with your buddy LaoZee, as he is the one that saves every word on this board.

  49. Fiberal says:

    Now I want to show you something.
    (scroll down for the video)

    That’s right. Cows.

    Now I’m not saying that we should not eat meat. We are omnivores.

    What I’m saying is that we, as the stewards and caretakers of animals can and should do better.

    And in order to be a little less cruel to our animals, we need to be concerned about their intelligence, sensitivity and their desire to live.

    Yes these are cows.

    And yes they are listening to the jazz. And they are a good audience. They are not eating, fraternizing or wandering aimlessly. They are doing what all children do – enjoying music.

    And they are doing this bc someone had the insight to give them a opportunity to do so.

  50. StanInTexas says:

    Fib, if God didn’t want us to eat cows, He wouldn’t have made them taste like STEAK!

  51. Fiberal says:

    In anticipation of that, I said this: “Now I’m not saying that we should not eat meat. We are omnivores.”

    Did you watch the video?

  52. Fiberal says:

    And of course, “Christians” always use the convenient “dominion over animals” as an excuse for slaughtering animals with impunity.

    However, the Bible also says,

    Isaiah 1:11
    “What to me is the multitude of your sacrifices? says the Lord; I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams and the fat of well-fed beasts; I do not delight in the blood of bulls, or of lambs, or of goats.

    Note the last part.


    Luke 12:6
    “Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? And not one of them is forgotten before God.”

    Contrary to all appearances.

  53. BigJoe says:

    @Stan; When I was stationed in Italy there were shops that specialized in horse meat. It’s quite common in Europe. And no, it doesn’t taste a thing like Tatanka. It has it’s own, distinct taste. Personally, I don’t care for it. Not like I do Buffalo! That’s good stuff but, horse? I wouldn’t ever consider it for the regular rotation. It’s TOO gamey.

  54. Fiberal says:

    And now we know BJ’s taste preference.

    Only 6,000,000,997 more to go.

  55. Fiberal says:

    (I subtracted 3 – one for BJ, and two for Sinister since short of a human, he’ll eat anything.)

  56. StanInTexas says:

    Fib, I will later. Not able to right now.

    Joe, agreed. I like buffalo and elk, and even a little ostrich now and again. Had horse before, not ever again.

  57. Fiberal says:


    Thank you.

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