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Dec 30 2011

Open Thread


Via Legal Insurrection, on a tip from G. Fox.

45 Responses to “Open Thread”

  1. Chris says:

    Gingrich Kills Chapter on Climate Change in Upcoming Book – He tells a concerned voter it’s been dropped, but that’s news to the author. (video)

  2. IslandLifer says:

    Big time gap where I live so just wanted to wish you all a HAPPY NEW YEAR! Despite our differences on who should be Prez at least we all agree the fraud has to go, that includes congress. So watch them fingertips and let’s pray this year may bring us change in the right direction. God Bless!

  3. Bob Roberts says:

    “Occupy” busy making fools of themselves once again. Take a look at the graphics. Can you see why idiots like these don’t get to put a float into the parade? Forget about the fact they made no effort to follow the theme, a basic rule of this parade. Just look at what a mess their float is! It’s a mobile superfund site!

    “Our goal is to put Occupy’s best foot forward.”

    EPIC FAIL, once again.

    Occupy Charlotte showing their true colors by burning flags.

    Now be sure and follow the link – I can bet one of our resident trolls will go after me for some detail I left out.

    Four protesters, including the spokesman of Occupy Charlotte, were charged after setting fire to two American flags early Friday near the Occupy camp in Center City, police said.

    Charlotte-Mecklenburg police weren’t sure earlier if the four men who set fire to two flags were associated with the Occupy Charlotte movement.

    But, WBTV has learned that one of the men is the media spokesman for the Occupy group and has been the contact person listed on press releases from Occupy Charlotte.

  4. Bob Roberts says:

    Take a look around moonbat infested areas and see what’s up:

    Philadelphia – murders up, way up.

    I visited Vancouver and all I got was a free crack pipe!

  5. Smorfia48 says:

    The religion of peace. Even more delightfully charming than you originally thought:

  6. Belfast says:

    The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God… Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans—born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage—and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this Nation has always been committed..”
    And how we cheered.
    Now we are prepared to hand all these things to a narcissistic socialist wimp.

  7. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    The Many Contradictions Of The Paulophobe

    Unfortunately, once Paulophobia has reached this stage, it is terminal, for it is now impervious to reason. There is no other conclusion to draw given the following facts.

    Republican Paulophobes know that should Ron Paul not get his party’s nomination and choose to run on a third party ticket, or should he encourage his devoted following to turn its back on the GOP, then President Obama is insured a second term. Hence, a little prudence dictates that Republicans refrain from treating him unjustly.
    Hey Islandlifer
    You want to win people over ?
    Keep the whackjobs like this, who insist on insulting them, or threatening to hold them hostage in the closet.
    I ask if Paul is worthy of the nomination, but I did not realize that this Kerwick fellow has already purchased every available share of liberty.
    So RP allowed some bigots to write in HIS newsletter. Fine, play the plausible deniability game.
    But rest assured, the leftist media WILL give this issue a root canal should he make the cut.
    Every man woman and child will know the “alleged” racist’s mothers maiden name.
    But of course the answer is to call the very voters who will be asked to defend him later, racist now.

    Yet if Ron Paul is “isolationist,” “naïve,” and “dangerous” when it comes to foreign policy, then all of those veterans and active duty military personnel who endorse him are “isolationist,” “naïve,” and “dangerous
    The classic chickenhawk argument. Yawn How dare I take a stance on foreign policy that MAY contradict a soldier in uniform
    Choosing the honorable path in life ? Yes.
    Authority in world peace ? Hardly.
    I can form an opinion on my own, thank you.

    The Republican Paulophobe, I hope to have shown, is a walking contradiction.
    And what of the Paulbot ? Do they want their guy to get the nomination ?
    Or do they simply enjoy poking fingers in eyes ?

  8. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    As to your second post, I agree completely
    Even though I have written off some of his zealot followers, I do not include you, or the possibility that RP MAY in the end receive my vote.
    Happy New Year to you as well

  9. Karbon Kenny says:

    Free Carbon offsets:

  10. Doug says:

    We haven’t seen a good pissing match between lao and Stanley in a long time.

    What’s up with that? Is lao on his annual vacation to Cuba?

  11. Laobag says:

    Rumor has it that laostain is @ #OccupyABurnUnit after self-immolating, attempting to initiate an Arab Spring-esque protest near its cave. Lao’s relatives refused to piss out the fire, stating they’d rather save it for the family tradition of drinking it at their holiday get together.

  12. Fiberal says:

    In contrast to the phony racism blacks and hispanics tenaciously use against whites, the actual racism practiced by minorities themselves, (necessarily covered with a small-pox blanket of ignorance), is a sure formula for creating permanent impoverishment.

    Blacks overwhelmingly supported Obama in 2008 (96%); they now suffer unemployment at 15.5%. Hispanics supported Obama (67%); they now have an unemployment rate of 11.4%. When Obama took office, those rates stood at 12.7% and 9.9%, respectively.

    I don’t know, maybe these groups enjoy their indolence.

    But overall, unemployment+victimhood sets up a totally wretched life bc their already-slim prospects will disappear completely.

    And as these groups line up at the polls to vote for BO once again, and if he wins, minorities will may as well just go out and get another tattoo. The economy will nose-dive even further under another 4 years of BO and who will be blamed? Surely not BO – a bro’.

    At least the Jews that Madoff knew as friends and family could finally see a traitor.

    But not minorities. No. It’s too convenient to blame whites. But again, maybe that’s what they want.

    Yoots between 18-29 also voted for BO (by a 2-1 margin) and a lot of these people will once again kneel before their Deity in 2012.

    But voting for BO by these same people should require (one would think) an extremely stolid position.

    It is possible that the BO mentality of youth groups will be re-shaped by the hardships of unemployment, wasted money on education, living with parents and a realization of a morose and dubious future.

    So it is more likely that BO’s youthful Desciples will change their views. This seems more likely than it would be for America’s minorities to change their views, driven as they are by racism, victimhood, ignorance and the promise of a hand-out.

    A minority vote for BO is a testament for just how evil actual racism truly is.


  13. Fiberal says:

    Romney’s son apologizes for mentioning BO’s birth certificate.

    Of course he should apologize. Many times over. What an insult.

    What is Mitt’s kid trying to say? That BO is an African? A damn Kenyan?!

    When are people going to get it through their heads that BO doesn’t need a birth certificate to be president; he just needs to have lived in this country… for a while. Any scholar of the Constitution could tell you that.

    Wow. Mitt is quite a disciplinarian. Its good to know we aren’t putting in another John McLame panderer to fail against BO.

  14. Lao the stain says:

    Hey they wanted to put out the fire, but were not smart enough, So they tossed gasoline…..

  15. IslandLifer says:

    Ghost, I agree, not the smartest link to have posted. I’ve also stated earlier that I will back anyone running against Obama and have changed my stance on sticking with Paul if he runs on a 3rd party (which I hope he doesn’t and he’s said he won’t but we shall see). However I can’t bring myself to support Gingrich, no way. Even Romney, as much as I dislike him, I will back in order to get the fraud out of office. So whomever comes out the winner of the GOP will have my full support minus Gingrich. Here is a little more tasteful article put out by the WSJ.

  16. Bob Roberts says:

    Notice how they still only emphasize HALF of the story. When we have extra cold winters they either mention it in passing or they try to claim it’s because humans are warming the planet. When we have extra mild weathers, all of a sudden it’s “proof” humans are changing the climate.

    Weather and climate are variable, always changing. Mild winters are not unusual. Just last winter the east coast had some really record setting bad weather, what with the cold and the extra snow. This winter, probably due to the extra COLD waters of the Pacific Ocean, not so much. I know the west coast is cooler than usual. It all balances out.

    And keep in mind the Earth may well be in a warming trend again, but we won’t really know until a decade or so in the future. What we do know, what is easily shown, is that humans do not exert a significant, lasting influence on global weather, temperature or climate.

  17. Bob Roberts says:

    I don’t know anyone who is “afraid” of Ron Paul, hence the word “Paulophobe” is sheer nonsense. What I have to say about Paul is not contradictory. It is simply this:

    1) Ron Paul makes a lot of promises. Unfortunately, as President, he would have to go against the Constitution to keep them.

    2) Ron Paul is dead on with certain issues and way off on others. This doesn’t make him much different than any other candidate – but when you look at WHICH issues and WHAT his position is, it does. Allowing his way to take precedence on some of these key issues would lead to disaster.

    3) Ron Paul is on record with some pretty crazy stuff. But so is anyone who has been in politics as long as he has been. But that’s another point.

    4) Politics was never intended to be a career and the fact so many have made an UNBROKEN career of holding elective office, in my mind, suggests we should not elect them again. To ANY elective (or, for that matter, appointed) office.

    Basically, if by some miracle Paul gets the nomination I would not vote for Obama and I would not avoid voting and thus help ensure Obama’s re-election. However, of the “Republicans” running, it might be hardest for me to vote for Paul. I have concerns regarding each candidate. The Republicans can’t seem to put forward the kind of person (think Reagan) I would be comfortable voting for – and by that I mean his first term. Before his second I realized something was going wrong, though we got through it alright, fortunately.

  18. Bob Roberts says:

    More detail from my 1:00 post, above:

    Just 19.6 percent of the continental United States is covered in snow, according to the latest snow analysis by NOAA, compared with 50.3 percent this time last year. [Last year they blamed the unusually heavy snow on anthropogenic global warming. This year they use it to emphasize the lack of snow this year, thus blaming THAT, too on anthropogenic warming. What, they trying to have it both ways?]

    Scientists and those who question dire global warming predictions emphasize that one warm season should not be interpreted as a broader sign of climate change.

    “It’s about long-term trends, and one year does not make a trend,” said Doug Inkley, a senior scientist at the National Wildlife Federation.

    Temperature anomalies happen for many reasons, and Arndt said some of the mild weather stems from a persistent ridge of high pressure that has settled over the eastern third of the country, pumping up south winds in many areas.


    The main point, though, is that you can’t decide how things are based on a warm day, week or month. Keep in mind the worst part of this winter is likely yet to come. This weather pattern, like all others, will eventually break down. The story of this winter is not yet written.

  19. Bob Roberts says:


    Obama creating “green” jobs, IN FINLAND!

    Obama funded cars being recalled due to fire hazard.

    Fisker Automotive is recalling all of its 2012 Karma luxury plug-in hybrid cars because of a fire hazard.

    Hey lao, going to accuse me of editing stuff out again? Go to the link for the complete story.

  20. AlphaMail says:

    Dr. 9 @ Dec. 31, 2011 9:20 am “Still Love Struck”

    You are s-o-o-o-o-o Correct!

    The American people have no idea where this cabal of progressives in Washington DC came from – those who are now revamping and decimating our future – including President Barack Obama.

    They are Chicago transplants. They simply shifted to D.C., the vile philosophy of Chicagoan Saul Alinsky, the 1968 Democratic Convention “Days of Rage” violence, the destructive school agendas of Marxist Bill Ayers, the racism of Louis Farrakhan and Reverend Wright, the Bobby Rush theory of class warfare and zero guns, the LGBT high school ideas suggested by Secretary of Education and Chicagoan Arne Duncan, and the political cunning and deception of Valerie Jarrett.

    Most of them came from the criminally radical, elitist progressive sanctuary called Chicago’s Hyde Park – the “neighborhood campus” of the University of Chicago. The shaded sidewalks and grand residences belie the destructive desires of the intellectual elite who reside there and profess to know more about running and controlling your life than you do.

    Born in Hyde Park and graduate of the University of Chicago, liberal Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stephens, was replaced by Hyde Park resident Justice Elena Kagan by Hyde Park resident Obama.

    But you’re right Dr. 9, Valerie Jarrett is right up there with the rest of them. Her dad wrote Communist propaganda for the Chicago Defender – an old leftie newspaper – and she’s straight out of Mayor Daley’s corrupt office as is Michelle Obama (the same Mayor Daley who made Bill Ayers citizen of the year).

    What most people don’t know is that she was ushered into her political positions by Marilyn Katz, another Hyde Parker.

    Katz was a security officer for the violent SDS (Students for a Democratic Society) in 1968 with Bill Ayers, was a friend of Bernardine Dohrn (on the FBI’s most wanted list), and helped Obama with his anti-Iraq war agenda in 2002.

    Katz formed MK Communications and has had clients like the ACLU, Amnesty International, Project Vote (ACORN), and the Joyce Foundation, a group on whose Board Obama sat, which gave money to anti-gun groups.

    If you want to see how vile and devious these Chicago thugs are, just realize Katz, a former SDS and close friend of Ayers, was an Obama media point-person who was responsible for deflecting 2008 media questions about whether or not Obama actually knew Ayers.

    No more chicken for the masses – foxes in the henhouse.

    That’s the kind of deception we’re getting out of Washington today and what we can expect from the WH in the future.

  21. Bill T says:

    Another land grab by the administration to buy the vote?

    Did you know that your tax dollars have been spent to produce a 56-page survey of a 5,100 Square Mile area of Texas and New Mexico.

    And the purpose of the Interior Department survey?

    The survey was ordered to help Team Obama lobby Congress to spend much, much more of your tax dollars for the nation’s first-ever “Hispanic” National Park to be built and run by the National Park Service.

    It is not clear if English would be used in the proposed “Hispanic” National Park, as the use of this language would certainly not fit in with the stated goal of respecting the “Hispanic” culture and history.

    If Obama’s blatant Hispandering were not bad enough, this plan also trashes private property rights.

    Ranchers who own private property within Obama’s targeted area and use this land to make a living, would loose parts of their property to create the new National Park.

  22. Fiberal says:

    Obviously, with the New Year celebrations at hand for normal people, the BO government goes to work.

    The BOites in congress under cover of the weekend holiday just transferred another $40 million in foreign assistance to the Palestinians.

    Even with billions siphoned off the top by their leaders, the Fakistinians must by now, be the wealthiest population in the world.

    Well, this should warm the hearts of American Jewry who inexplicably will return BO to office in 012.

  23. Fiberal says:

    The “battle cry” of the Paulistinians is “don’t fight bc we can’t afford it”.

    Well we sure as hell should be affording it. And we could afford it if we would stop throwing money away to thug countries like Fakistan and to the massive entitlement programs in the U.S.

    Of all the budgetary items for government, bombs are best. We need to targeting our enemies (i.e., anyone resisting our imperial juggernaut) to keep them in line. We should bomb iran into glass, build a huge straw, drill a hole and suck out every last drop of that country’s oil.

    Then and only then would I agree with liberals who ask while picking their lice – “why do we need oil exportation agreement contracts with Iraq?”

  24. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    Even Romney, as much as I dislike him, I will back in order to get the fraud out of office. So whomever comes out the winner of the GOP will have my full support minus Gingrich
    You are doing better, or worse (depending on how you look at it) than me.
    Every time those two open their mouths, the chances of me pulling the lever for them diminishes.
    If either one would just come out and admit they are not conservative, and will simply attempt to fill in some of the gaping potholes left by the Dems on this socialist path we are on, and buy us a few more years before we careen over the inevitable cliff, I could at least give them some points for honesty

  25. Bill T says:

    Hos this for respecting the “Hispanic” culture and history.

  26. nobody says:

    Debt Ceiling

    Here’s another way to look at the Debt Ceiling:

    Let’s say, You come home from work and find there has been a sewer backup in your neighborhood….and your home has sewage all the way up to your ceilings.

    What do you think you should do -Raise the ceilings, or pump out the shit?

    Your choice is coming Nov. 2012

  27. IslandLifer says:

    As much as I cringe of the thought of Romney pulling off a win I will cringe even more having to back him. I’ve said I’d stick to my principles and take Paul as a 3rd but I’ll do the math when the time comes. If it doesn’t look possible I’ll throw in my vote for the GOP just for the simple fact of not having to look at the fraudulent current administration another 4 years. Impending doom as I see it too. Too far gone I fear for a way back. I think there’s only one solution left. Fiberal I’d love to level every square inch of jockey land myself but surely we’d be leveled as well. In the end I believe this is how it will all go down. The whole world ablaze.

  28. AlphaMail says:

    Fiberal @ 3:40 pm

    Liberals are blind to U.S. historical humanitarian support given the Palestinian people (not to arm them – but to feed them), as well as the fact that Israel was not claimed by Jews in 1948, they’ve been there for thousands of years.

    Thank the modern progressives for rewritng and making a mockery of history and the truth.

    But as you and I know, this cloak and dagger style of funding his objectives, is Obama’s M.O. – the will of the people be damned.

    George Bush supported Israel, but when Congress asked for $ for the Palestinians, he gave Arafat way more than what they asked for – to show concern for the needs of a struggling people. Commonsense.

    Arafat however, stole the $, and didn’t use it for infrastructure, electrical grids, business growth, or energy (sounds like Obama), but for subversion.

    We have given them tens of billions(!) which was a noble gesture, BUT, having to do nothing in return they have become another American entitlement society and they, along with their liberal “right to the fruits of other’s labors” here in America, want not only what Israel has, but they want Israel itself.

    I can only disagree with you on one point – I doubt if they are one of the wealthiest populations in the world. Do you have any idea how much money those Iranian missiles cost, or how much a Kenyan boy prostitute can cost a wealthy Hamas leader? Big budget!

    The $40 million for the Palestinians which you alluded to

  29. Fiberal says:

    “I’d love to level every square inch of jockey land myself but surely we’d be leveled as well.”

    Naw…We strike first and (if we could change our M.O.), we strike decisively.

    America has less enthusiasm for fighting wars than the Amish at a grass-growing contest. If we had some bad-ass generals with some war experience and a president that recognizes the value of plunder and the worthlessness of 9/10’s of the rest of the world, the sun would never set on the American Empire.

    But no. For some unwritten, god-forsaken reason, the greatest people in the history of the planet have to go around respecting every camel humping, feces-throwing, Jew-hating monkey in a turban instead of killing them.

    How that makes any sense to anyone is beyond me.


    “Do you have any idea how much money those Iranian missiles cost, or how much a Kenyan boy prostitute can cost a wealthy Hamas leader?”


    Its expensive. However, keep in mind that the Kenyan Prostitute Import line item severely impacts the Fakistanian’s annual Jew-killing budget.

    Payments to the families of suicide bombers has to be curtailed. Fewer Fakistinians strap on the belt and then no one in Fakistine is happy.

    But since the annual JKQ (Jew Killing Quota) goes down, it all seems to work out for everyone: the Fakistinians get more Kenyan prostitutes, American Jewry get the status quo and the Rabbis in Israel continue running around blessing little cocktail weenies.

  30. AlphaMail says:


    Cocktail weenies meaning hors d’oeuvres not Kenyan imports…….

    Like you I believe we should walk softly and carry a big stick. Unfortunately we have an administration who swishes and carries a feather duster.

    Notice how quickly the Iranians backed down in the Straits of Hormuz yesterday when we flexed our muscle. Obama had to go against his own inclinations to do that because any disruption in oil means higher prices = worse economy = loss in 2012. Sad part is, he’ll get credit for the bold move, even though you and I know it has nothing to do with American leadership, but everything to do with image and re-election.

    BTW: I really like the inversely proportional JKQ/prostitute/AJ/weenie thing – you da man.

  31. Rob Banks says:

    Well, this should warm the hearts of American Jewry who inexplicably will return BO to office in 012.

    I think that might depend upon the views of the particular Jew.

  32. AlphaMail says:

    Rob Banks @ 8:47 pm

    Watched a couple of videos “Views of the…..”

    Really hard to assimilate over an hour of stuff on New Years eve, but got the gist.

    It’s difficult for me to focus on anything that has the potential to substantively differentiate between anything Christian and anything Jewish. I grew up in a Christian environment where our Judeo-Christian heritage was fundamental and the difference was whether the Messiah came or not. Since that’s a matter of faith, I’ve learned not to argue about it.

    The ex-rabbi in the video has a sincere message, however, I would humbly suggest you focus your thoughts on a different Messianic Jew who is our “spearhead” in the conservative effort to defeat all things radically liberal and anything anti-Christian.

    The man is Jay Sekulow. He is the head of the ACLJ (American Center for Law and Justice) and he is the wall of justice between you and I and the ACLU.

    I’m not sure he has ever lost a case against them.

    Jay Sekulow is one of the few attorneys who has ever gone before the U.S. Supreme Court and won 9-0.

    That case involved religious freedom – the right to take a Bible to school, the right for a valedictorian to thank Jesus, or the right to pray in school.

    Clean sweep – no argument – case closed.

    He convinced Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, an ex-ACLU attorney and advocate of legal sex as early as 12 years-old to vote with the majority in favor of religious freedom.

    With little time left before the 2012 election, it’s critical to put our eggs in the right basket.

    God bless and Happy New Year

  33. I took your advice and built a blog that does not go through Google Or Word Press.

    “2012 Sabotage?” Wild Bill For America

  34. Berlet98 says:

    2011 Sucked, 2012 Could Be Even Worse

    On a personal, family level, 2011 was one of the worst years of our lives, but that’s our problem.

    On national and world levels, 2011 sucked just as much with the added downer that, unlike us, 2012 holds the prospect of being even worse for the United States and the planet.

    Of course, good things happened last year; they always do.

    Navy Team 6 dispatching Usama bin laden was the highlight, an economy showing meager signs of improvement was less noteworthy but nevertheless a good thing, GOP candidates having the nerve to debate incessantly and make their opinions known to the electorate was a refreshing novelty, the stock market did fairly well, the Iraq War temporarily ended, and the number of abortions declined.

    As is too often the case, the bad outweighed the good both at home and throughout the world in 2011.

    Domestically, MSNBC and Bill Maher are still regurgitating, the economy is still wallowing in the doldrums, poverty is increasing as planned by the administration, our borders are farcical, and the nation suffered through a series of unprecedented natural catastrophes as well as social upheaval with 1960′s precedents in the persons of the Occupiers.

    However, although Mother Natures’s onslaughts are inevitable and unavoidable, we are free to pull the plug on MSNBC and Maher, the economy will recover, the poor really aren’t really all that bad off, various states are attempting to perform the federal job of stemming illegal immigration, and the Occupiers are more and more recognized for the anarchists they are.

    As opposed to those 2011 negatives with silver linings, above all else in the negative category is the fact Barack Hussein Obama still reigns as America’s Chief Executive.

    Overseas, cataclysmic natural, economic, and political events were far worse than our own. . . (Read more at

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