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Oct 19 2017

Open Thread

Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth. By simply not mentioning certain subjects... totalitarian propagandists have influenced opinion much more effectively than they could have by the most eloquent denunciations. - Aldous Huxley

86 Responses to “Open Thread”


    Demonstrating a never seen before sense of irony..

    Obama: We Reject the ‘Politics of Division’ That ‘We See Now’

  2. StephaneDumas says:

    A bit more about the “Harveggedon”, no, it’s not the hurricane one.

  3. KirklesWorth says:

    Federalist: What’s Wrong With The Boy Scouts Goes Deeper Than Social Issues Into Cowardice

    Essentially, the Boy Scouts of America has abandoned its original insight into the soul of boys: They are natural warriors. Don’t get me wrong, I know there are girls out there who love to play cops and robbers, and boys out there who love playing with dolls. But we all know that, in general, whether it is biologically or culturally transmitted, boys like to play at war and girls don’t. This central vision into the nature of boys was what sparked the Scouting movement.

  4. KirklesWorth says:

    Right Wing News: ACLU Attempts To Get Law On Sheltering Illegal Aliens Declared Unconsitutional

    I’ve mentioned the law, 8 Us Code 1324, many times. It’s about people actually sheltering, harboring, etc, illegal aliens. The ACLU has spun the entire thing into a free speech issue and wants it declared unconstitutional.The ACLU trots out examples of people speaking, such as

    ● A woman who tells her undocumented housekeeper that she should not depart the U.S. or else she won’t be allowed back in. (A former U.S. Customs and Border Protection official stood trial in just such a case.)
    ● A university president who publishes an op-ed arguing that DACA recipients should consider her campus to be a “sanctuary” after their deferred action expires.
    ● A community organization that announces its shelters and soup kitchens are open to homeless undocumented youth in their area.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Left/liberal discussion: Ignore something and it doesn’t exist

  6. Anonymous says:

    Don’t forget your Gender Equality and Social Justice merit badges…

  7. KirklesWorth says:

    Time: A Massachusetts School District Is Sorry for a Photo of a Black Girl on a Leash

    A Massachusetts school district has apologized after a photo appeared to show two white children holding leashes attached to a black child. The children were wearing 17th century clothing in the photo that was taken in a third-grade classroom at an elementary school in Bridgewater. The two white children were standing while the tethered girl was kneeling on the floor. Their teacher was also shown in the photo, which has circulated on Facebook and generated complaints of racial insensitivity. Bridgewater-Raynham Regional School District Superintendent Derek Swenson explained in a statement Thursday that the children were learning about Colonial-era clothing and a portion of the lesson dealt with tethering straps that were commonly used to help toddlers learning to walk. Swenson says the school district understands why the photo could be perceived differently.

  8. TED says:
    THE LEFT love shooting themselves in the foot! And since they get away with everything it IS JUSTICE!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!

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  11. Anonymous says:

    It’s not called “being a ‘ho” when liberals do it.

  12. Anonymous says:

    Goodell’s progressive “Business thought leader” promised him “take a knee” would eventually be really profitable for the NFL someday, you know…

  13. Anonymous says:

    Look, dumb pinkos!

  14. geeknerd says:

    They protect Bill, Weiner and Weinstein but throw Cosby to the wolves because Cosby didn’t stay on the liberal plantation.

    Never offer a willing partner ‘ludes before sex. She’ll gladly take them, have sex with you, and 20 years later call you a rapist.

  15. StephaneDumas says:

    Aaron Clarey aka Captain Capitalism posted a good rant about Playboy’s latest move.

  16. Bodhisattva says:

    Maybe what this one needs is to have Mitch a ventriloquist dummy with Trump’s hand up his backside.

  17. Bodhisattva says:

    I think I’m in love… she’s no doubt taken.

  18. Bodhisattva says:

    Also the converse: Create out of whole cloth things that do not exist then concentrate on them at the expense of actual real pressing issues.

  19. Bodhisattva says:

    More than 30 women have now come forward with allegations of sexual harassment against Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, the man once described as ‘God’ of the film industry.

    Many listed here – scroll down for details:

  20. Bodhisattva says:

    What I felt at the time was a reasonable criticism of Trump made by more than one person in this space was that he likely would not bring spending under control.

    Now keep in mind that while he has SOME power in this respect, it is Congress that actually has the power to tax and spend.

    Nonetheless it seems like that criticism was on the mark:

    GOP Congress Presides Over Highest Spending Since Obama’s Stimulus

    To be sure, spending is a tricky issue and cuts are hard to make. Any that touch “sacred” entitlements are very likely to help get you defeated in the next election. And entitlements are far and away the biggest budget item.

    Also fair is fair – some of this spending has to do with the natural disasters we just experienced and so it might be reasonable, if that is true, to subtract those costs for a more reasonable comparison.

  21. Bodhisattva says:

    Does this surprise anyone?

    Obviously he’s just going through the motions.

    Harvey Weinstein doesn’t seem to be taking sex rehab seriously

    Harvey Weinstein is already being belligerent at sex addiction rehab — barking into his banned mobile phone and remaining in denial about his alleged sex attacks, insisting each and every one was consensual, Page Six has exclusively learned.

    The movie mogul, who volunteered to go to rehab after a wave of allegations of sexual harassment and rape against him from women in Hollywood, isn’t exactly in his element in therapy, falling asleep in sessions or talking on his phone, a source tells Page Six.

    Weinstein was reported to be at an inpatient facility, but our source says he is actually being treated at an intensive outpatient facility, which allows him to spend nights at a hotel. The clinic offers one-on-one counseling and group therapy sessions, among other treatments.

    The source told us, “In one group therapy session, Harvey arrived 15 minutes late. Then, when it was his turn to speak, he launched into a speech about how this is all a conspiracy against him.”

    The source added that as others at the clinic shared their personal stories, “Harvey fell asleep in his chair. He was only woken up by the ringing of his smuggled mobile phone [which is banned at the facility] . . . Harvey jolted awake, jumped up, immediately took the call and then ran out of the room.”

    Well Harvey may be in for a rude awakening:

    LAPD Investigating Rape Claim Against Harvey Weinstein

    Next stop – criminal court, followed by jail?

    But then again the developing liberal “consensus”on this may just be:

    There’s No Virtue in Joining an Angry Mob

    Harvey Weinstein’s actions were egregious. But high-minded outrage poses dangers of its own.

    Yeah, after all he was born that way. Can’t help it. Or at least that’s what they claim about others. Why not Harvey too? A victim of his own genes, should get a pass, as he has been getting from liberals throughout!

  22. Bodhisattva says:

    “Climate Change” is defying the U.N. and the Obama administration… Smog is defying the Chinese government:

    Despite all-out efforts to give the Chinese Communist Party blue skies for its twice-a-decade congress, Beijing’s notorious smog has cloaked the mega-city in its trademark toxic haze.

    The capital typically enjoys an unusual succession of clear days when the party holds major events, with smoke-churning factories ordered to shut down.

    Even restaurants famous for flavourful shish kebabs turned off their barbecues, with a waiter telling diners at one eatery this week that the lamb delicacies would be off the menu during the congress.

    President Xi Jinping had invoked the fight against air contamination during his wide-ranging speech to open the congress on Wednesday.

    “We need to prevent pollution from its source, continue the action against air pollution, and win the battle for blue skies,” Xi said.

    But the smog appeared to have not received the party directive as it enveloped the city all week, prompting many Beijingers to don masks for protection.

    The counts of PM2.5 — harmful microscopic particles that penetrate deep into the lungs — reached 115 Friday afternoon, according to readings from the US embassy.

    The World Health Organization’s recommended maximum exposure is 25 over a 24-hour period.

    “It looked polluted out the window so I put on my mask,” said Euphie Zheng, on the way to her IT job in central Beijing.

    Next week the Chinese are said to be ready to announce a dictate that will stop the tide from coming in.

  23. Bodhisattva says:

    Democratic “death from 1,000 cuts” slowly being reversed:

    Melania Trump cuts bloated first lady payroll from Michelle Obama days

    Yes, the Obama’s certainly found ways to make government pay… THEM AND THEIR CRONIES!

    Of course watch the loony left spin this as Melania putting several people out of work.

  24. Bodhisattva says:

    Another liberal hoist by his own petard… or peter.

    A top executive at Vox Media was fired late Thursday following a public allegation of sexual misconduct.

  25. Bodhisattva says:

    We need a focused travel ban on this:

    Afghan troops go AWOL in U.S.; IG says wastes taxpayer money, poses security threat

    Yes, the same Afghan troops who often turn on other Afghan troops… and U.S. Troops. That just might be 150 ISIS operatives loose in the U.S. – except for the fact all but 13 have been accounted for, plus so far none have been linked to any terrorist acts – at least NOT YET.

    Time to stop importing terrorists just the same.

  26. Bodhisattva says:

    “Climate Change” supposedly causing polar bears to go extinct… except not here, apparently:

    Russian village is surrounded by 20 polar bears which have tried to force their way into one home already
    Polar bears have invaded a Russian village forcing locals to shelter indoors
    Drawn to a walrus rookery, many walruses have jumped from 125ft cliffs in fear
    Around 20 of the fearsome bears have surrounded Ryrkaypiy, population 601
    A local wildlife official called the situation ‘alarming’

    Aggressive polar bears are holding locals in a Russian village hostage after being drawn to a nearby walrus rookery, leaving residents unable to venture outdoors.
    The one tonne predators are thought to have forced hundreds of frightened walruses to jump off 125ft cliffs to their deaths before feasting on the carcasses.
    Around 20 of the fearsome bears have surrounded the coastal area of Ryrkaypiy, population of 601, with one cub even trying to enter a house through the window.

  27. Bodhisattva says:

    ‘How Sean Penn seduced me after we met El Chapo’: Mexican actress who arranged actor’s infamous meeting reveals she had sex with the Hollywood star- but later claimed it was just business

    Del Castillo also opens up about fearing for her life and saying she thought she might be raped by El Chapo when he escorted her to her room one evening
    She says she did not tell the government El Chapo’s whereabouts and was not responsible for his ultimate capture

    There is a story circulating that says many Hollywood liberals have helped the U.S. government achieve various goals – among them a claim that Penn helped the government learn where El Chapo was. Penn, of course, vigorously denies this.

    Where is WIKILEAKS when we need them?

  28. Bodhisattva says:


    (* When they’re misinformed it is a plan proposed by Bernie “B.S.” Sanders!)

    President Donald Trump’s proposal for comprehensive tax reform was almost immediately dismissed as heartless and impractical by his political opponents.
    When the same ideas are packaged under Bernie Sanders’ name, however, liberal college students excitedly endorsed them.

    We headed to George Washington University to ask students their opinions on Trump’s new tax plan. WIthout much explanation, the students immediately made clear their distaste for the plan.

    “It’s not the most efficient, nor beneficial to the general populus,” said one student when asked her opinion of Trump’s plan.

    “It’s better for the upper class than anyone else,” added another.

    After watching student after student express their disapproval of the plan, we then asked those same students what they thought of Senator Bernie Sanders’ new tax plan.

    Immediately, they expressed excitement and support after hearing the details of the plan.

    The only problem for them? There was no tax plan for Senator Sanders. The plan they loved was actually President Trump’s.

  29. Bodhisattva says:

    Mexico Argues Texas Immigration Law Will Harm Relations

    My answer to that?


    A Texas law banning sanctuary cities would harm diplomatic relations between the U.S. and Mexico, Mexico argues in a brief submitted to the appeals court reviewing the law.

    The brief, filed Thursday with the Fifth District Court of Appeals in New Orleans, says whenever state or local officials act improperly in upholding the sanctuary law, the U.S. federal government would be unable to resolve the problem or prevent similar ones. Thus it runs the risk “that actions of a state or its officials regarding immigration enforcement could irreparably damage U.S. foreign policy interests with respect to a particular country.”

    Texas’ sanctuary law, known as SB 4, may be the toughest in the country. In addition to banning sanctuary cities — jurisdictions that choose not to comply with federal immigration enforcement — it allows local law enforcement officers to question the immigration status of people they detain or arrest.

    And the law seeks to punish local government department heads and elected officials who don’t cooperate with federal immigration “detainers” — federal requests to turn over immigrants possibly subject to deportation. Punishment could come in the form of jail time and penalties that exceed $25,000.

    Passed by the majority-Republican legislature and signed into law by the state governor in April and May, SB 4 was promptly challenged in federal court, which ruled in August the measure could not take effect because it conflicted with U.S. immigration law.

    In late September, an appeals court allowed partial implementation of the law, specifically the section requiring jail officials to honor all detainers, while the court considers the appeal.

  30. TED says:

    The BLACKS are dumb enough to eat that crap up. ANYTHING to hide THE DIMS history!!

  31. TED says:

    I LOVE it when their BS comes back to BITE them in the ass!!!

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  33. TED says:

    They’ve been walking into them for SO LONG it’s 2nd nature to them.

  34. Bodhisattva says:

    Silverglate: How Robert Mueller Tried To Entrap Me
    Is special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, appointed in mid-May to lead the investigation into suspected ties between Donald Trump’s campaign and various shady (aren’t they all?) Russian officials, the choirboy that he’s being touted to be, or is he more akin to a modern-day Tomas de Torquemada, the Castilian Dominican friar who was the first Grand Inquisitor in the 15th Century Spanish Inquisition?

    Given the rampant media partisanship since the election, one would think that Mueller’s appointment would lend credibility to the hunt for violations of law by candidate, now President Trump and his minions.

    But I have known Mueller during key moments of his career as a federal prosecutor. My experience has taught me to approach whatever he does in the Trump investigation with a requisite degree of skepticism or, at the very least, extreme caution.

    When Mueller was the acting United States Attorney in Boston, I was defense counsel in a federal criminal case in which a rather odd fellow contacted me to tell me that he had information that could assist my client. He asked to see me, and I agreed to meet. He walked into my office wearing a striking, flowing white gauze-like shirt and sat down across from me at the conference table. He was prepared, he said, to give me an affidavit to the effect that certain real estate owned by my client was purchased with lawful currency rather than, as Mueller’s office was claiming, the proceeds of illegal drug activities.

    My secretary typed up the affidavit that the witness was going to sign. Just as he picked up the pen, he looked at me and said something like: “You know, all of this is actually false, but your client is an old friend of mine and I want to help him.” As I threw the putative witness out of my office, I noticed, under the flowing white shirt, a lump on his back – he was obviously wired and recording every word between us.

    Years later I ran into Mueller, and I told him of my disappointment in being the target of a sting where there was no reason to think that I would knowingly present perjured evidence to a court. Mueller, half-apologetically, told me that he never really thought that I would suborn perjury, but that he had a duty to pursue the lead given to him. (That “lead,” of course, was provided by a fellow that we lawyers, among ourselves, would indelicately refer to as a “scumbag.”)

    This experience made me realize that Mueller was capable of believing, at least preliminarily, any tale of criminal wrongdoing and acting upon it, despite the palpable bad character and obviously questionable motivations of his informants and witnesses. (The lesson was particularly vivid because Mueller and I overlapped at Princeton, he in the Class of 1966 and me graduating in 1964.)

    Years later, my wariness toward Mueller was bolstered in an even more revelatory way. When he led the criminal division of the U.S. Department of Justice, I arranged in December 1990 to meet with him in Washington. I was then lead defense counsel for Dr. Jeffrey R. MacDonald, who had been convicted in federal court in North Carolina in 1979 of murdering his wife and two young children while stationed at Fort Bragg. Years after the trial, MacDonald (also at Princeton when Mueller and I were there) hired me and my colleagues to represent him and obtain a new trial based on shocking newly discovered evidence that demonstrated MacDonald had been framed in part by the connivance of military investigators and FBI agents. Over the years, MacDonald and his various lawyers and investigators had collected a large trove of such evidence.

    The day of the meeting, I walked into the DOJ conference room, where around the table sat a phalanx of FBI agents. My three colleagues joined me. Mueller walked into the room, went to the head of the table, and opened the meeting with this admonition, reconstructed from my vivid and chilling memory: “Gentlemen: Criticism of the Bureau is a non-starter.” (Another lawyer attendee of the meeting remembered Mueller’s words slightly differently: “Prosecutorial misconduct is a non-starter.” Either version makes clear Mueller’s intent – he did not want to hear evidence that either the prosecutors or the FBI agents on the case misbehaved and framed an innocent man.)

    Special counsel Mueller’s background indicates zealousness that we might expect in the Grand Inquisitor, not the choirboy.

    Mueller team criticized by fellow attorneys for history of questionable tactics

    Sidney Powell, a former federal prosecutor, also took aim at Andrew Weissmann, the prosecutor tapped by Mueller to help lead the investigation, in a piece this week titled, “Judging by Mueller’s staffing choices, he may not be very interested in justice.”

    Powell accused Weissmann, once the director of the Enron Task Force, of “prosecutorial overreach” in past cases and said it could signal what’s to come for President Trump and his associates in the Russia probe.

    “What was supposed to have been a search for Russia’s cyberspace intrusions into our electoral politics has morphed into a malevolent mission targeting friends, family and colleagues of the president,” Powell wrote in The Hill. “The Mueller investigation has become an all-out assault to find crimes to pin on them — and it won’t matter if there are no crimes to be found. This team can make some.”

    Powell cited several cases where Weissmann won convictions that were later overturned.

    Powell, who also spoke to Fox News last month, was so outraged after one case involving Weissmann that, in 2012, she filed a formal complaint of prosecutorial misconduct with the Texas bar and the DOJ’s Office of Professional Responsibility.

    The complaint alleged witness threatening, withholding exculpatory evidence, and the use of “false and misleading summaries.” After reviewing the complaint, the Obama administration’s OPR found no ethical violations.


    In her op-ed, Powell criticized Weissmann over the FBI’s raid of the home of Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman.

    “Mueller’s rare, predawn raid of Manafort’s home — a fearsome treat usually reserved for mobsters and drug dealers — is textbook Weissmann terrorism,” she wrote.

    While Mueller’s team is facing scrutiny for its tactics and handling of past cases, federal scrutiny of Manafort predates the Mueller investigation. He had been investigated by the feds due to his past dealings in Ukraine, for which he didn’t file as a foreign agent until June 2017. Mueller later incorporated that investigation into his Russia probe.

    A recent NBC News report also claimed Manafort has stronger ties to a powerful Russian oligarch than previously known.

    The intensity of the current focus on Manafort was widely seen as a potential effort by Mueller’s team to pressure him into providing information on others, possibly Trump himself, in the Russia probe.

  35. Ol' Uncle Lar says:

    See also Churchill, Manitoba which bills itself as “The Polar Bear Capitol of the World”.

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