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Mar 21 2012

Open Thread


On a tip from TED.

120 Responses to “Open Thread”

  1. AC says:

    After removing the pencil from his ear, Turbo Tim speaks candidly on the size of future debt ceiling increases: “It would be a lot. It would make you uncomfortable.

  2. AC says:

    Race-obsessed student goes postal in class, wondering will evolution kill off blacks (language warning)

    This won’t make the news.

  3. Bob Roberts says:

    Heck, soon we’ll be giving them away! Is Obama-sanity over? The Obama campaign just sent out a message to supporters reminding them that the official campaign Obama 44 basketball jersey is now on sale. Unfortunately, due to the bonehead moves of Obama and his administration, what with the price of gas so high nobody can afford one.

    Sheriff Joe announces he has more on Obama.

    Somewhere well beyond amazingly stupid and bordering on insane, they’re still trying to use climate as an excuse to institute one all powerful world government. That’s really what it’s been about all along.

    I just want to know exactly what climate catastrophe we’re facing – is it the global cooling they warned of about 40 or so years ago or the global warming they’ve been warning about more recently?

    Or is it just more of the same weather we’ve always had and always will have?

    Naturally Obama and the left will be hard against it even though it has amazing potential for America!

    Gender confused woman going to court after being banned from ALL MALE dorm. Look, nobody cares what you want to pretend you are – you are a woman. You may not like that fact. You may not accept that fact. BUT IT IS A FACT and since it is a fact you’re going to either have to get used to it and accept it or you’re going to keep getting yourself into uncomfortable situations.

    Hey, we warned them to STFU – they chose not to listen. Now they’re paying for it!

    As they prosecute hundreds of Occupy protesters on lower-level charges such as disorderly conduct, Manhattan prosecutors have turned one of the movement’s principal organizing tools—social media such as Twitter—against the defendants.

    In short Twitter messages, protesters coordinate activities and warn others of law-enforcement efforts. In doing so, prosecutors believe some have revealed an intent to break the law.

    “The lesson is, if you’re speaking publicly and leaving a record as to who you are, that’s information the government can legally access,” said Orin Kerr, a professor of law at George Washington University who specializes in electronic evidence and Internet law.

    2 US men arrested on gay cruise in in Dominica, where sex between two men is illegal. Since lao has a vast amount of experience in such matters, and I have none, I’ll just let him go forward with this story.

    Oh, wait, it was two GROWN men, two ADULTS, not one adult and one underage male.

    My bad.

    Anyone else hear about/post about this? U.S. intelligence agencies monitoring China’s Internet say that from March 14 to Wednesday bloggers circulated alarming reports of tanks entering Beijing and shots being fired in the city as part of what is said to have been a high-level political battle among party leaders – and even a possible military coup.

    Why we need to STOP IRAN’S NUCLEAR EFFORTS NOW! Authorities have interviewed at least 13 people since 2005 with ties to Iran’s government who were seen taking pictures of New York City landmarks, a senior New York Police Department official said Wednesday.

    Police consider these instances to be pre-operational surveillance, bolstering their concerns that Iran or its proxy terrorist group could be prepared to strike inside the United States.

    There was a reason Bush and his administration came up with preemptive strategies. Once terrorists kill thousands, or hundreds of thousands, you can’t just say “oops” and ask for a do-over.

    A small step in the right direction. he Supreme Court ruled on Wednesday that landowners can sue to challenge a federal government compliance order under the clean water law, a decision that sides with corporate groups and puts new limits on a key Environmental Protection Agency power.

    The justices unanimously rejected the government’s position that individuals or companies must first fail to comply with an EPA order and face potentially costly enforcement action before a court can review the case.


    Now this next one requires a little set up.

    Here in San Diego, as in pretty much every southern border state, we have major problems all directly linked to illegal immigration.

    Most of us love immigrants – yeah, there are a few bigots among us who don’t perhaps, but we’ll leave lao to the critical task of ferreting each of them out as we have more important things to do – and all we ask is that they come here legally.

    Really, is that too much to ask?

    Anyway, for taking this stance the lao’s among us are quick to call ME a bigot and also a racist, claiming I hate Mexicans (my favorite cousin was a Mexican – unfortunately he got cancer & died) even though hispanics are considered to be “White” on most government forms.

    Anyway, as part of their attempts to “taunt” me, these bigots always bring up that demographic trends indicate that soon whites may wind up being a minority due in part to the high birth rates of hispanic peoples who are in America (of course, as mentioned, they forget that hispanics are actually considered to be “whites”, so that’s the first way the joke is on them & their ignorance) but now there’s an even better irony to their taunts:

    Turns out that they don’t have a clue what demographic group is actually poised to eventually outgrow the others if trends continue as they are!

    Meanwhile I will point out that most of us, with the possible exception of Obama, his ilk & associates, Democrats in general, leftists and the rare but important (to lao) far right wing nut, really see past race, ethnicity and all that other stuff and care more about what the person can and will do than how much and what type pigment they may have in their various cells.

    French blaming American policies under Obama, but Americans saying French did it. I wonder – was it the policies of Obama that allowed this guy to get to France and do what he did – or was it the French who “welcomed him home”.

    Obama supports HALF a pipeline! Of all the bone-headed moves, this ranks right up there near sending his daughter on vacation to Mexico.

  4. Bob Roberts says:

    Moonbatty OWN following in the footsteps of Air America!

    Unless you’re bored with this sort of stuff, here’s a link to yet another lunatic “occupier” ranting and raving.

    You know, sometimes Russia gets it right. They’ve passed a law, signed on March 7, that bans lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered “propaganda” that could give minors “the false perception that traditional and nontraditional relationships are socially [and otherwise] equal.”

    Look, believe whatever you want. I don’t care. But stop with the lies that either two women or two men equals one of each, because it just ain’t so!

    NO matter how much you abuse legislatures and courts to claim otherwise, IT JUST IS NOT TRUE!

    Seventy-six of the 193 members of the United Nations deem homosexuality illegal. At least five countries, including Iran, impose the death penalty for consensual same-sex relations, the New York-based advocacy group says.
    OK well the death penalty – that’s way too far, except in cases of rape or pedophilia (lao, you listening?).

    And no, I don’t think we should be trying to “legislate morality” by attempting to criminalize what two consenting adults choose to do in private.

    But yeah, I like the idea of criminalizing the propaganda the LGBTQ crowd puts out. We should follow their lead on that one.

  5. Bob Roberts says:

    Hey everyone, don’t bother lao. He’s busy trying his best to dig up right-wing connections to Jonatha Carr. She may well be a former follower of Jeremiah Wright or Derrick Bell?

    Seriously, why DOES evolution kill black people? Don’t worry, I’m calm, I won’t get upset. I just want to know is all.

    Can anyone answer?


  6. IslandLifer says:

    Planned Parenthood Speaker: Good parents should let teens have sex at home
    And no doubt she believes good parents should encourage abortion to keep the fetus mill operating

  7. IslandLifer says:

    The SECOND that black beast made that death threat she should have been subdued. But just look at the little girly boys standing around.

  8. Momster says:

    To AC.

    I was watching the video at work (detective bureau) when all the dicks came in to see what the heck I was looking at.

    They said the teacher should have dismissed all the students when she began her outburst. That would have removed her audience aa well as preventing the death threats against all the white students and the assault and battery against the white male student. However, things like this are so shocking sometimes one’s judgment is frozen. The wise students got out of Dodge as you can see from the video.

    She could have (should have) been charged with hate crimes, death threats, threat to commit a crime, assault and battery, disrupting a classroom (a crime in this locality).

  9. lao says:

    FACT CHECK: More US drilling didn’t drop gas price

    A statistical analysis of 36 years of monthly, inflation-adjusted gasoline prices and U.S. domestic oil production by The Associated Press shows no statistical correlation between how much oil comes out of U.S. wells and the price at the pump.

    Sometimes prices increase as American drilling ramps up. That’s what has happened in the past three years. Since February 2009, U.S. oil production has increased 15 percent when seasonally adjusted. Prices in those three years went from $2.07 per gallon to $3.58. It was a case of drilling more and paying much more.

    U.S. oil production is back to the same level it was in March 2003, when gas cost $2.10 per gallon when adjusted for inflation. But that’s not what prices are now.

    That’s because oil is a global commodity and U.S. production has only a tiny influence on supply. Factors far beyond the control of a nation or a president dictate the price of gasoline.

  10. Fiberal says:

    Bob Roberts says:
    March 21, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    Seriously, why DOES evolution kill black people?

    Can anyone answer?

    I’ll take a stab at that.

    It’s bc here’s no affirmative action in natural selection.

    (Just a theory.)

  11. whotothewhat says:

    Ship ahoy sailor! 2 guys getting busy up on the poop deck get arrested for indecent exposure. Apparently some islands have not received the memo that this kind of behavior is supposed to be ok now.

    2 US men arrested on gay cruise in Caribbean

  12. Sam Adams says:

    lao says:
    March 22, 2012 at 5:23 am

    FACT CHECK: More US drilling didn’t drop gas price

    A statistical analysis of 36 years of monthly, inflation-adjusted gasoline prices and U.S. domestic oil production by The Associated Press shows no statistical correlation between how much oil comes out of U.S. wells and the price at the pump.

    Drilling in the US has the following advantages:
    1. Terrorist events in the middle East will has less disruption on the US supply of oil.
    2. Every barrel of oil produced domestically improves our balance of payments (either because we don’t have to import and pay for a barrel of oil, and/or because we export and are paid for the barrel of oil or its products.
    3. The law of supply and demand cannot be repealed.
    4. Our economy is based upon liquid carbon fuels. Solar, wind, or battery-powered airplanes aren’t in the foreseeable future for commercial or military aircraft.
    5. Supplies of domestic oil can reduce the need for food to be turned into fuel, potentially easing global food prices. It’s for the children.

    Those are undeniable facts that support more domestic drilling.

  13. Spider says:

    After reading the headlines about the US soldier who killed those Afghanistan civilians, I couldn’t help noticing an irony. There is all this clamor to try this guy quickly and execute him, never mind his having suffered a traumatic brain injury in combat.

    Yet this Major Hasan, who shot up Fort Hood while screaming Allah akbar, still hasn’t stood trial, and they are still debating whether he was insane, even with the clear evidence regarding his motive: slay as many infidels as possible. So we have a guy in a war zone who cracks, and he must be executed immediately?

    But this Muslim psychiatrist who was stateside in a nice safe office all day murders 13, wounds 29 of our own guys, and they try to argue the poor lad suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome, from listening to real soldiers who had actual battle experience. Two and a half years later, they still haven’t tried that Muslim terrorist…

  14. Sam Adams says:
    Pelosi: Healthcare law guarantees ‘life, liberty, pursuit of happiness’

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Wednesday evening that the 2010 healthcare law, which prompted complaints from conservatives that Democrats far exceeded their constitutional authority, actually helps people meet the goal outlined in the Declaration of Independence, which promotes mankind’s rights to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

    Speaking on the House floor, Pelosi called on her colleagues to remember “what our founders put forth in our founding documents, which is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And that is exactly what the Affordable Care Act helps to guarantee.”

    What Pelosi failed to mention is how people can pursue life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness without government supplied food, housing, a car, free gasoline, free IPADs, etc.

    She has so much work left to do.

  15. Sam Adams says:

    Spider says:
    March 22, 2012 at 6:15 am

    After reading the headlines about the US soldier who killed those Afghanistan civilians, I couldn’t help noticing an irony. There is all this clamor to try this guy quickly and execute him, never mind his having suffered a traumatic brain injury in combat.

    Excellent points. Seems that several soldiers died when there were reports of defaced Korans being burned. No rush to prosecute those folks either. Also, the frequent riots over some slight or another seems to also result in several innocents being killed.

    Where’s the outraged over those deaths?

  16. Sam Adams says:

    Debbie Wasserman Schultz Denies Comparing Voter ID to Jim Crow…Even Though She Did

    Except for the part where she not only did, but apologized for it the same day that she did.

    Jim Crow was the wrong analogy to use. But I don’t regret calling attention to the efforts in a number of states with Republican dominated legislatures, including Florida, to restrict access to the ballot box for all kinds of voters, but particularly young voters, African Americans and Hispanic Americans.

    Why is it that democrats like Washed-up Schultz whines endlessly about laws that require showing some ID to vote, but never a word over the injustice of needing to show some ID to open a bank account, cash a check, get a job (apply for government benefits), board an airplane…….

    Seriously, how dim do you have to be.
    Oh wait…the whole reason that the dems (or dims) are opposed to showing any ID to vote is because it might lessen their chances to get re-elected.

  17. octa bright says:

    to IslandLifer
    Before you condem the male students you need to consider that 1. they have been conditioned NOT to hit girls. 2. With the state of what is called “justice” in American PC universities they probably be expelled for racism and possibly face a criminal charge which would damage their chances for future employment. That is like blaming a prisoner for not fighting back when a guard clubs him. We have created an atmosphere in the universities where White men are at best third class citizens but are mostly smart enough to present a low profile until they graduate.
    When you beat a dog for barking you have no right to complain if it doesn’t warn you when a burgler comes calling.

  18. StanInTexas says:


    Let us not forget that the Jim Crow laws were a gift to America from… wait for it…


  19. J says:

    Virginia Middle School Teacher Forces Students To Support Obama, Has Them Do Opposition Research on GOP Candidates…

  20. Fiberal says:

    A “million hoodie” march takes place in NYC while the MSM plasters innocent little boy pictures of Trayvon Martin all over the web.

    Martin was shot in a confrontation with Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch guy.

    Meanwhile, Nancy and Bob Strait were attacked in their home by Tyrone Woodfork, a 20 yr-old black. Nancy, 85 was murdered while Bob, 95 was beaten to a bloody pulp but survived.

    There’s a highly selective MSM blackout in the case of Martin and an almost total blackout in the case of Woodfork.


    First, it is with a certainty that Zimmerman was not “hunting” some black kid who was just skipping down the sidewalk on the way home from school. It is unlikely that the factual details will come out anytime soon, but we know that Martin was running with a hood over his head and that he eventually confronted Zimmerman.

    Larger circumstances are at work here. Blacks have not made themselves exactly innocent bystanders in what is tantamount to a criminal war against home and business owners.

    While the U.S. government does not allow “profiling”, individuals who want to survive do so.

    So naturally, the MSM tacitly requires that Zimmerman “stand down” regardless of the circumstances of the confrontation.

    The Martin incident is extremely useful to the left, bc it can be used to attack the “Stand Your Ground” law in particular and guns in general (as usual), and all the while reinforcing the notion that racism is alive and well among whites.

    (Zimmerman is hispanic but called white by the media.)

    Secondly, the MSM has all but squashed stories about the Straits. They were home, sick, when Tyrone Woodfork busted into their house to rob them of whatever. Woodfork beat two ancient, frail people mercilessly just to feel good about his own physical strength. But hey, that’s their problem, right?

    Bob was a paratrooper in WWII awarded the Bronze Star. Nancy was a homemaker. She was 97 pounds and weak from food poisoning and flu when she was beaten to death by Woodfork. She was “mama” to six kids.

    The couple had been married for 65 years. If Woodfork were white and the Straits were black, you would see incomparable media outrage. Not even on a par to that for Martin. There would be MSM on every inch of the story and the Straits would be heralded as victims of an irredemably-racist America. Bill O’Reilly would advocate for the “Strait” law in all 50 states.


    To date, all the major news outlets (except Fox) covered the Tryvon Martin case while none have covered the Tyrone Woodcock case.

    As it is, for the MSM and their chosen ones, Trayvon Martin becomes their national martyr while Tyrone Woodfork becomes their protectorate.

    So just exactly where’s the real racism in all this?

  21. Fiberal says:

    Oh. Did I mention that the Straits were white?

  22. AC says:

    Woodfork belongs on death row. Bleeding heart liberal lawyers will work their hardest to ensure he never makes it there.

    I can see him pleading out for life with parole. I wouldn’t be shocked if he got 20 (out in 10) on a lesser included offense.

  23. FrankW says:

    Additional factors (which libs always discredit), epa regs (specifically CA) for designer blends were tightened raising the price by shortening the usage season for the cheaper to produce blends, more blends were developed in order to appease epa (federally), and finally the ability to refine was curtailed, first by tightening epa restrictions on emissions and more drastically by denying permits for expansion. There is a massive choke-point in the oil cycle, refining has not seen expansion and most facilities are hamstrung by requirements of technology not yet invented. Also causing issues are the distribution process.
    But if the constraints of the dem led congress of years past in addition to bammys obstruction had been removed it would have resulted in lower prices. I am not saying gas would be back to $1.50 a gallon, but it would likely have fallen back to the below $2.50 per gallon.

  24. AC says:

    Is melted-down moonbat student Jonatha Carr an education major?

    Here is her LinkedIn profile:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s teaching in a unionized government classroom a few years from now.

  25. Kevin R. says:

    FrankW, exactly.

    The Left has suddenly discovered that there is a law of supply and demand that affects prices… but their understanding of the law of supply and demand is a comic book understanding. If free enterprise were allowed to work unmolested by governments the law of supply and demand would bring innovations and entrepreneurs that would transform not only oil and energy in general, but the entire economy and our prosperity.

  26. Ollie says:

    Disgraced senator John Edwards ‘outed as one of Manhattan Madam’s clients’

    Read more:

  27. StanInTexas says:

    Hey Lao, do you know the name Ken Tillery and why his is important?

    I’ll give you a hint, he was from Jasper, Tx!

  28. Graycat says:

    Franklyn Roosevelt is known for many things—the WWII presdident, the Great Depression president. His economic policies haunt us to this day. He imposed all sorts of solialist policies that may have seemed like a good idea at the time, but turned out to be disasters. They didn’t necessarily start with him—His cousing, Teddy and Woodrow Wilson to name two. Even his wife Elanor became known for her radical views about women rights and place in American society in a time where were supposed to remain silent on the topic. But Franklin Roosevelt–and why is it that so many people refer to him as hsi initials “FDR” and John Kennedy as “JFK”? We don’t call Ronald Reagan “RWR” for Ronald Wilson Regan. But I digress. Franklin Roosevelt was a man who believed in God and the power of prayer, especially for a nation involved in a World War. The evening of June 6, 1944, D-Day, he addressed American citizens in a radio address and said a prayer for our nation’s service men and women and for our allies and the country. It was not a short prayer, it was a long, sincere and heartfelt prayer. President Obambi and his corrupt administration have nixed it from being included in the World War II memorial in Washington D.C.–a large and magnificient display of our country’s sacrfice in European and Pacific theaters during that war.

    More here from Patriot Update.

  29. Bill T says:

    I’m suprised tyrone isn’t wearing an oboma 2012 t shirt!

  30. FrankW says:

    Actually I am not upset with the sentencing lao points out except for a couple of minor issues. Assuming the facts are correct (at this point I will stipulate to that), I only object to no death sentence and calling it a hate crime. Almost all violent crime is motivated by hate. Why does the state of mind (sociopath vs. bigot) matter?
    As far as the Mississippi thing goes, why does color matter, it is either murder (deserving death penalty) or not murder. Does making the victim black (or white) and the assailant white (or black) make the dead guy less dead? Does the murderers state of mind increase the deadness of the victim? How about we kill the murderer twice in order to balance of the scales for the deadness of the victim plus the fact that the murderer was a bigot? Hate crimes are a moronic tool for libs to use to make themselves feel better (it makes them feel good to punish for ungood thoughtcrimes), the crime is the infliction of damage upon the victim, not the state of mind of the attacker.

  31. Sam Adams says:

    StanInTexas says:
    March 22, 2012 at 7:21 am

    Let us not forget that the Jim Crow laws were a gift to America from… wait for it…


    Just like the KKK was/is the action wing of the democrat party. Remember how the last member of congress/grand cyclops was “whitewashed?”

    Too bad that the democrats aren’t willing to embrace their racist roots.

  32. Sam Adams says:

    lao says:
    March 22, 2012 at 8:36 am

    Mississippi teen gets two life sentences after pleading guilty to hate crime

    The answer is surprisingly simple:

  33. AC says:

    Mississippi teen gets two life sentences after pleading guilty to hate crime

    A white teenager pleaded guilty to murder and a hate crime Wednesday for running over a black man with his pickup truck in a killing a judge called a stain on Mississippi that will take years to fade.

    What is your objection? I find it unfortunate that he won’t be going to the chair, which itself would be less fortunate than a live victim and a ventilated would-be murderer. Since you support neither capital punishment nor concealed carry, what is your complaint?

  34. Smorfia48 says:

    Aisha finds herself repeatedly assaulted by a mass murdering religious fanatic named Mohammed. Now where have you heard that before?

  35. StanInTexas says:


    What is interesting about Liberals in this case is that they push so hard for Hate Crime and Hate Speech laws, yet they will defend to their last breath murderers on death row.

    It amazes me how they can be for punishment and against punishment all at the same time. If only we had a word to describe such behavior…

  36. Sam Adams says:

    StanInTexas says:
    March 22, 2012 at 9:45 am

    … yet they will defend to their last breath murderers on death row.

    It amazes me how they can be for punishment and against punishment all at the same time. If only we had a word to describe such behavior…

    They are horrified that a guilty people could be sentenced and put to death, but think nothing of sentencing an unborn child to death as a woman’s “right.”

    The word you are looking for is “monsters.”

    BTW, they also are all upset over a white killing a black in an apparently racially motivated crime, but are completely silent over blacks killing whites in apparently racially motivated crimes.

    Have you heard about the new “game” of blacks ganging up on whites, beating them or worse, simply because they aren’t black?

  37. StanInTexas says:

    Sam, I asked Lao who Ken Tillery was. From Jasper, TX. He has yet to answer, most likely because he looked him up and knows how that case blows his pathetic Hate Crime rant right out of the water.

    And the word i was looking for was “hypocrite”, but MONSTER works as well!

  38. FrankW says:

    Not that new of a game really. It has occurred within homogenous groups (generally of the less affluent classes {nice way of saying poor punks}) for centuries. I have seen it done by asian gangs, black gangs, white gangs, and mexican gangs (how Northern Mexicans tell themselves from Southern Mexicans I will never know).

  39. pink Floyd says:

    It’s too late for contraception, but we could perform post-birth abortions.

  40. Robert Peahl says:

    Sam Adams @ 6:14 in response to Lao
    Very good points re benefits of domestic drilling. I’d like to add one additional point if I may.
    America needs more refining capability. Crude oil doesn’t magically turn into fuel. The U.S., due to overagressive environmental zeal, has built no new refineries in decades. In fact, overregulation forced the closing of one of our refineries in the Carribean earlier this year.
    America has to import refined fuels. It is simple economics that increased drilling would not lower the price of gasoline IF the only thing you can do with it is export the crude and then reimport it as fuel at a higher cost than if you produced it yourself.
    (1) Drill. Creates jobs.
    (2) Build refining capacity. Creates jobs.
    (3) Research VIABLE alternative fuels for future use.
    Doing these things will help the economy, alleviate foreign influence on our energy situation, and ease the supply/demand logjams.
    One other item of interest is that oil companies pay a royalty to the Fed for drilling on Federal lands. In the Gulf Coast the royalty is 18.75% per barrel. More drilling=more government revenue. Thereby lowering the deficit. The moonbats in D.C. are idiots.

  41. lao says:

    Sam sez: Drilling in the US has the following advantages: 3. The law of supply and demand cannot be repealed.

    At issue is that “drill baby drill” does NOT drop prices at the pump.

    The late 1980s and 1990s show exactly how domestic drilling is not related to gas prices.

    Seasonally adjusted U.S. oil production dropped steadily from February 1986 until three years ago. But starting in March 1986, inflation-adjusted gas prices fell below the $2-a-gallon mark and stayed there for most of the rest of the 1980s and 1990s. Production between 1986 and 1999 dropped by nearly one-third. If the drill-now theory were correct, prices should have soared. Instead they went down by nearly a dollar.

  42. StanInTexas says:


    Lao, you are PATHETIC.

    You ignore direct question put to you, but jump right back on to defend some mindless piece to STUPIDITY you posted earlier.

    Why don’t you do us all a favor and just run away!

  43. lao says:

    I often wonder. Do the rest of you shudder to contemplate that stanwee is on YOUR side?

  44. StanInTexas says:

    Listen Lao, it was YOU that brought up the hate-crime in Mississippi and then ran away from any discussion about it like the coward that you are.

    And I would feel very sorry for any person that posts on this board that agrees with a pathetic hypocrite like you!

  45. lao says:

    There was nothing to discuss. The guy pleaded guilty.

  46. StanInTexas says:

    And did you look up Ken Tillery from Jasper TX, Lao?

    His case has DIRECT bearing on your post.

  47. lao says:

    Maybe you should contact the judge to let him know.

  48. StanInTexas says:

    Thanks Lao, I appreciate you demonstrating your cowardice for everyone here to see.

  49. lao says:

    Thanks stanwee, I appreciate you demonstrating you idiotic lies for everyone here to see. Your upcoming whining will be ignored.

  50. StanInTexas says:

    That always seems to be your fallback position, Lao. Personal attacks and accusing me of lying. Funny how you are never able to point to even ONE THING that I have lied about, while I have REPEATEDLY illustrated your cowardice and hypocrisy.

    But run away now, it is one of your better traits!

  51. lao says:

    Too funny.

    Mitt Romney’s Etch-a-Sketch Disaster

    Most obviously, this was a classic Kinsleyan gaffe–an inadvertent blurting of the truth–that goes to the very heart of the character problems that have bedeviled Romney throughout this campaign. It provides a handy prop for Romney’s opponents and an obvious template for future TV ads.

    It makes it much harder, perhaps impossible, for Romney to begin to tack back to the center to appeal to the centrist voters, an absolute necessity for the fall campaign after the free-range extremism of the Republican primary. Every time Romney makes a move, or even a head-fake, it becomes an Etch-a-Sketch moment.

  52. StanInTexas says:

    Thanks again, Lao.

    I had forgotten about your habit to changing the subject when you are caught by your lies and hypocrisy.

    You are the gift that keeps on giving.

  53. lao says:

    Karl Rove: Bin Laden killing was no biggie

    Rove cites this quote from Bill Clinton in the documentary to make the case that any president would have made the call Obama made:

    “As for the killing of Osama bin Laden, Mr. Obama did what virtually any commander in chief would have done in the same situation. Even President Bill Clinton says in the film “that’s the call I would have made.” For this to be portrayed as the epic achievement of the first term tells you how bare the White House cupboards are.”

    Clinton did utter those words. But here’s the full quote from Clinton, at the 12:30 mark in the film:

    “He took the harder and the more honorable path. When I saw what had happened, I thought to myself, `I hope that’s the call I would have made.’”

    In Rove’s telling, Clinton said, “that’s the call I would have made. What Clinton actually said was, “I hope that’s the call I would have made.” Emphasis mine.

    This comical level of dissembling and mendacity is to be expected from Rove.

  54. StanInTexas says:

    Dear Lao,


    {/laughing AT you, not with you!}

  55. son of a preacher man says:

    Why would Rove lie about Clinton telling a lie?

  56. Bob Roberts says:

    lao says: March 22, 2012 at 5:23 am
    TRUTH CHECK: That’s because the price dropped when the drilling was announced, not later when it started.

    Plus perhaps you can explain why, now that Obama is suddenly “FOR” the Keystone pipeline (but only the SOUTHERN part, not the vital part that will bring down Canadian oil and reduce our dependence on unstable, far away regimes who hate us) we are seeing a drop in prices at the pump. Plus, see my next post!

  57. Bob Roberts says:



    Obama the omnipotent, the moonbat messiah, revealed by the left as the fraud we always knew he was. He and his supporters admit he is incapable of affecting the price of gas, even though he kept his campaign promise to send energy prices through the roof.

    So it turns out Obama is NOT omnipotent after all and was just a pretender.

    So I guess we should take him at his word that, since he’s ruined the economy and can’t fix it, he doesn’t deserve a second term.

    NOBAMA 2012!

  58. Bob Roberts says:

    lao says: March 22, 2012 at 12:41 pm
    You almost have to pity lao, making a big deal out of what is obviously a mistake based on not recalling the precise words one used.

    Now lao is all hot and bothered over the fact that Clinton said, `I hope that’s the call I would have made’ yet Rove apparently misquoted him as saying, “that’s the call I would have made.”

    It’s a sign of how desperate the left is that they’re still worried about Carl Rove and they’re grasping at such ridiculous straws. Certainly (assuming that lao and his source aren’t distorting matters) Rove may have inadvertently gotten the quote wrong – I challenge lao to claim he’s never done that. In fact we have all seen lao not only leave out a word in a quote but rather take a quote from one of us and turn it, deliberately, into something we never said or thought. So it’s particularly hypocritical for lao to even post this bit here. I’d say I’m ashamed but, with lao, I’m so far beyond ashamed of what he says here that words simply can’t express it.

    I guess he does have one pitiful excuse.

    Assuming he’s really Canadian, that is.

  59. Bob Roberts says:

    lao says: March 22, 2012 at 12:34 pm
    I already covered this.

    Indeed, once again, lao is like a drowning man, grabbing at anything possible in failed attempts to avoid going down for the last time.

    Fish food.

  60. Bob Roberts says:

    lao says: March 22, 2012 at 12:01 pm
    I often wonder. Do the rest of you shudder to contemplate that stanwee is on YOUR side?
    I think that’s worth discussing.

    I don’t agree with everything Stan says here.

    He doesn’t agree with everything I say.

    Yet we remain courteous and civil to each other.

    We are mindful of the diverse views of others and readily accept any reasonable discussion. This proves, despite lao’s pathetic attempts to claim otherwise, that this space is NOT an “echo chamber” like so many spaces run by leftist moonbats all over the web.

    On the other hand, our tolerance for moonbat inspired nonsense such as you will find in essentially EVERY post by lao has been wearing thin. We accept diverse views but not unreasonable or blatantly false things and that is all lao is capable of sharing, apparently. Based on his frequency and quality of posts I almost have to conclude he’s either locked securely in some mental institution or a paid propagandist for the left.

    Why else would he waste his time making a fool of himself here day after day, month after month, year after year?

  61. Bob Roberts says:

    lao says: March 22, 2012 at 11:42 am
    Explain why, then, that when Bush announced he was repealing the Democrat executive order that hobbled U.S. exploration and recovery efforts, the price of oil dropped ON THAT NEWS ALONE! Of course the Democrats in Congress refused to remove the similar legislative blocks and so, in line with ADMITTED DEMOCRAT GAME PLANS, the price of energy has soared to new heights thanks to Obama, Reid, Pelosi and their ilk.

  62. Bob Roberts says:

    lao says: March 22, 2012 at 8:36 am
    Furious that he cannot find right-wing/conservative connections to Deryl Dedmon, lao is off on a tear trying to muddy the waters.

    As I go through the MANY posts by lao, responding as appropriate to each, I can only wonder how long until he comes on and gives me a hard time for posting so much IN RESPONSE TO HIS POSTS.

    It’s too funny when he does that!

    In any case, Dedmon pretty much closed the book on his case when he stated, quite plainly, “”I was young. I was dumb. I was ignorant …”.

    Of course his admission will not bring the victim back.

    And, on the matter of the price of oil and gas and lao’s repeated idiotic posts on that issue, one would expect lao would be more aware of realities of the commodities markets rather than just proving his own ignorance by posting, over and over, the same tired Democrat propaganda points.

    But no, what do you expect? We are dealing with lao, after all.

    StanInTexas says: March 22, 2012 at 9:45 am

    What is interesting about Liberals in this case is that they push so hard for Hate Crime and Hate Speech laws, yet they will defend to their last breath murderers on death row.
    Even more significant, while they will demand that death sentences for properly tried and convicted capital murderers be reversed, they actively fight to continue the wholesale wanton murder of innocent unborn babies.

    What’s up with that?

  63. Bob Roberts says:

    Fiberal says: March 22, 2012 at 7:59 am
    They’ve declined to arrest or file charges against Zimmerman.

    What do the authorities know that is not being reported?

    The way the leftist leaning media is reporting it, it’s cut & dried – essentially they’re portraying this as a deliberate and completely unjustified execution by a racist.

    And yet no arrest, no charges.

    So, again, what do the authorities know that the media is deliberately keeping from us?

  64. lao says:

    Trayvon Martin’s alleged attacker not covered under law I wrote

    Media stories sharing the transcripts of the 911 tapes from the evening of the incident clearly show that Mr. Zimmerman was instructed by authorities to remain in his vehicle and to cease pursuit of Mr. Martin. George Zimmerman seems to have ignored the direction of the authorities and continued his pursuit of Mr. Martin.

    Mr. Zimmerman’s unnecessary pursuit and confrontation of Trayvon Martin elevated the prospect of a violent episode and does not seem to be an act of self-defense as defined by the castle doctrine. There is no protection in the “Stand Your Ground” law for anyone who pursues and confronts people.

    Sanford police chief temporarily steps down amid outrage over shooting death of teen

  65. J says:

    After Taking Credit for Solyndra “Success” in 2011, Obama Now Says It “Was Not Our Program, Per Se” (Video)

  66. J says:


  67. Bob Roberts says:

    lao says: March 22, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    It’s more than a guess to point out that both lao and his source obviously haven’t listened to the 911 tapes…

    Instead of making baseless allegations, I’ll provide a direct quote, this one from the Martin family’s lawyer:

    “What made him shoot was that he was one of them; he felt he was a cop.”

    So in other words it wasn’t about hate or race, it was about a guy who had delusions of power and authority. At least, that’s according to the Martin family’s lawyer!

    The claim of lao, and of his source (by presenting it lao “owns” the claim now) is that the 911 dispatcher told Zimmerman not to get out of his car. Where on the tape did the dispatcher say anything like that? He said something to the effect of “We don’t need you to do that” in response to Zimmerman’s acknowledging that he was following the teenage kid. So how do lao and his source morph that into “Don’t get out of your car”?

    Remember lao getting all hot and bothered about Carl Rove leaving out one word in a quote of Bill Clinton? Remember how I said lao always tries to completely change what was said to suit his agenda and, apparently, exclusively relies on sources that do the same?

    And here’s what lao is leaving out:

    “Trayvon came toward him and the two began to fight. Zimmerman said he ended up on the ground, where Trayvon punched him in the face. After yelling for help, Zimmerman said, he pulled his 9 mm gun from his waistband and fired.”

    SO maybe it WAS a hate crime. Trayvon expressed his overpowering hate of whites physically, the same hate that Obama, his ilk and associates cultivate for political gain, and wound up getting a bullet for doing so.

    An eyewitness saw Zimmerman on his back on the ground. According to the police incident report, Zimmerman’s nose was bloody and his shirt was grass stained.

    Now I’m guessing the other eyewitness who claims there was no scuffle was black, or liberal, or both? Perhaps not even a true witness, just coming forward to muddy the waters.

    Just wild guesses, admittedly – wonder if they’re correct?

    Police also said that Trayvon’s father, Tracy Martin, told them the voice pleading for help was not Trayvon.

    Of course now the father changed his story – now that the “usual suspects”, various black agitators, have gotten involved.

    “The attitude is that we should just make an arrest and let a jury decide,” Chief Lee told the Miami Herald. “But to make an arrest, we would have to sign a sworn affidavit that we believe the case to be true. That would be irresponsible. We just do not have the evidence to disprove what Mr. Zimmerman says.”

    It goes beyond that. There is a great deal of evidence to support everything Zimmerman says. To arrest and charge him under the circumstances would be foolish!

  68. J says:

    Slinger homeowner won’t be charged in fatal shooting

    The homeowner acted lawfully and in self-defense when he armed himself, encountered Morrison in the darkened room and killed him with a single gunshot from a .45 caliber revolver, the statement from District Attorney Mark D. Bensen says. Authorities have not identified the homeowner.

    Wisconsin’s castle doctrine law presumes homeowners are justified when using deadly force against intruders.

  69. FrankW says:

    Libs seem to be jumping to the conclusion that Travon was an innocent nubian angel just skipping along when the white devil whipped out his thunderstick and killed him. How does this sound, it is strange that despite all of the pressure to do so, there have been no announced intentions to arrest Zimmerman. Maybe something sinister is going on, maybe not, IDK.
    Let the investigation proceed, all the local LEO’s have done is step aside in order to get a unbiased investigation from the state (according to their own statement). But if Zimmerman is not guilty he has already had his life ruined. sharpton and crew will ensure that. Don’t forget tawana and the Duke lacrosse case. Verdicts were reached by sharpton on those long before the facts were in, and then he doubled (or tripled) down on stupid.

  70. lao says:

    Santorum: GOP better off with Obama than ‘Etch A Sketch’ Republican

    “You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there,” said Santorum. “If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the etch a sketch candidate of the future.”

  71. Berlet98 says:

    Obama Changes We Can Really Believe In?

    I haven’t had the pleasure of visiting the White House in decades so I can’t personally attest to all of the following details on recent alterations in America’s executive mansion but they are interesting, to say the least.

    For example, has anyone noticed that our president no longer conducts his rare press conferences with the traditional trappings of American flags in the background?

    Instead, a bright yellow curtain replete with what some people believe are Arabic symbols now decorates the press room, along with Obama’s trusty teleprompters, of course, without which he tends to put his foot in his mouth.

    And, has anyone noticed that the decor at the White House has radically changed since the Obama clan occupied 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

    The Oval Office is now almost devoid of the traditional display of American red, white, and blue. It has been replaced with what appears to be middle eastern wallpaper, drapes, and decor and the hallway Obama uses to talk to the press now features middle eastern-style chairs, drapes, etc.

    And, has anyone noticed that Obama seems more Islamic than he seems American?

    It’s understandable, actually, since his paternal heritage is Muslim, all his Kenyan relatives are Muslims, his mother married two Muslims, and he spent years of his childhood in Muslim Indonesia where he was partially educated in a Muslim madrassa and he diligently studied the Quran.

    Before any White House alterations were made, surely the POTUS had extensive input from his lovely, style-conscious FLOTUS who, only a few years ago discovered she was proud of her country. She must be even more proud of her husband’s Muslim roots.

    Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama must also be tickled pink that America’s White House now reflects both her tastes and her hubby’s documented Islamic affiliations even though those tastes and affiliations give rise to suspicions that the Obamas aren’t all we have been led to believe in.

    Is Barack Hussein Obama a Muslim at heart? . . . (See pictures and read more at

  72. Fiberal says:

    We don’t know for certain, yet, but:

    Chances are Trayvon was prowling.
    Chances are he had no business being in the gated community.
    Chances are he attacked Zimmerman.

    That’s the profile and the probability.

    Chances are that anyone buying into the Great U.S. Meme that Trayvon was just a bashful, barefoot boy prancing whimsically in the meadows is an idiot, a liberal, a racist, or Cut&Paste-Lao-Z.

  73. RICH says:

    Was Trayvon a punk? Probably. Did this justify running after him and using dealy force? No, of course not. There were no weapons found on him. It would be best to distance ourselves from Zimmerman. He was a vigilante looking for trouble, imho.

  74. lao says:

    Poor bobby has to lamely try to provide cover for Karl Rove of all people, by saying Rove may have inadvertently gotten the quote wrong .

    Sure bobby.

    What a remarkable coincidence leaving out two words amplified the silly claim Rove was trying to make.

    Mr. Obama did what virtually any commander in chief would have done in the same situation.

    Wrong. By starting the sentence with, “I hope…” Clinton expressed doubt that he would have responded the same.

    What a remarkable coincidence that Rove ALSO left out Clinton’s preceding assessment that Obama took the harder and the more honorable path the omission of which, ALSO supports Rove’s claim.

    Of course we can all expect that Rove, taking note of the derisive laughter being directed at his mendacity will leap in to clarify that it was a simple mistake and not a deliberate lie. Being a professional, he will obviously address the INADVERTENT error and issue an apology and retraction.

    I, for one, will not be holding my breath.

  75. Einstein says:

    lao says: March 22, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    I, for one, will not be holding my breath.

    Of course not. A liar hasn’t any breath to hold having spent it on lies.

  76. Bob Roberts says:

    lao says: March 22, 2012 at 4:41 pm
    Poor lao, totally missed my point.

    You’re bottom feeding, lao. Sifting through piles of excrement that is basically meaningless.

    Who cares that he didn’t get the quote right?

    It doesn’t matter, because we know, based on his past actual performance, that Clinton would have labored over the decision until there was no chance of succeeding anyway.

    So at least we agree that Rove was wrong about one thing. Obama was forced, politically, into giving the order to go ahead, even though his preferred route was no doubt to just open negotiations with bin Laden and hope that in that way he would agree to surrender and come to a trial in New York City. And Clinton, who had SEVERAL opportunities to take him out, never did.

    You’re really not making any sense. You remind me of Charlie Brown’s parents and teachers. When you talk it’s like someone is playing a muted trumpet. Sounds like there’s almost some intelligence there. Almost. But not quite.

    One thing we can certainly conclude from you going on about this – it really must be a slow news day for liberals. So slow that you have to bring up nonsense that is even less valid today then it was back when Obama was taken out.

    Rove will do no such thing because this is a TRIVIAL, INSIGNIFICANT matter that only an IDIOT like you cares about.

    Please, feel free to admit that Clinton would NOT have made the call. And, no doubt, from everything I’ve heard, Obama was only brought in at the last minute, basically in a way where it was too late for him to do anything but give the order to GO. So, essentially, he had no choice, AND YOU KNOW IT.

  77. Bob Roberts says:

    I’m still chuckling that lao would even think, much less say, that Carl Rove needs me to “cover” him.

    Are liberals all so dirt dumb that this is the best they can come up with?

    What’s the deal worrying about Rove? He’s not managing anyone’s campaign this year. Why bother with him. He wrote an op-ed. Expressed his OPINION. Got an insignificant quote wrong. So what?

    Poor lao – does he even think what he’s suggesting to us? He’s trying to convince us that Clinton would NOT have ordered them to get bin Laden? Thus confirming the underlying issue – that liberals aren’t to be trusted when it comes to critical national security matters. He should be thanking Rove for saying what he did, not complaining about it!

    Seriously, think about it. The position lao is desperately, bitterly clinging to is that there are liberal Presidents who would NOT have ordered the military to get bin Laden when they had the chance.

    Now if we can just figure out how to get that message out to a wider audience consistently between now & November we’ll be set!

  78. Bob Roberts says:

    lao says: March 22, 2012 at 3:05 pm
    You know it’s a slow day when the best lao can do is complain about Carl Rove, repeat what GOP contenders are saying and, funniest of all, get all hot & bothered and sticky & moist over an obvious misconstrued and admittedly poorly worded statement by A SPOKESPERSON FOR A GOP CANDIDATE which the candidate quickly clarified as not meaning ANYTHING like the left was hoping it did.

    Come on lao, there has to have been at least one person with dubious right-wing links who did something questionable today. Why don’t you find him or her and share it with us?

  79. Bob Roberts says:


    lao says: March 22, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    I, for one, will not be holding my breath.
    On the contrary, lao, please DO hold your breath.

    Reduce your carbon footprint.


  80. Bob Roberts says:

    StanInTexas says: March 22, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Dear Lao,


    {/laughing AT you, not with you!}

    Mega-dittos, Stan. Well said!

  81. Bob Roberts says:

    RE: Stan’s 8:22 post:

    Gilbert was murdered in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice Stiles Unit by fellow inmate Reagan Caldwell.

  82. Bob Roberts says:

    Jonatha Carr.

    Right winger?

    Nope. Not even close.

    Sorry lao!

  83. lao says:

    No bobby, Rove is not so stupid as to get “an insignificant quote wrong”, particularly in an opinion piece written for the Wall Street Journal where the truncated quote is the second last sentence in the entire piece.

    Rove played the game so beloved by the right, he cut the quote to create his own reality.

    Now your hilarious spin is that Rove did Clinton a favor. Clinton does not say he wouldn’t have launched the attack, he HOPES that he would have.

    As you demonstrate, the chopped quote is perfectly acceptable to the far right, and no wonder. It reinforces the unreality you cling to.

  84. Bob Roberts says:

    Dear me – lao should jump on this one!

    Republican candidates say stupid things now and then.

    We already know that.

    Don’t need lao to try to make a big deal out of it.

    Santorum appears to be floundering.

    Sad – he was better, in many ways, than Newt & Mitt.

    But not perfect – we never claimed that. I don’t know why lao expects it except perhaps that he knows that conservatives are inherently superior to liberals.

    That is probably what drives his utter hate and contempt for all things conservative.

  85. lao says:

    (rolls eyes) By the way bobby, have you added some more incoherent comments to those threads that have already scrolled away?

  86. Bob Roberts says:

    (Of course, I’m baiting lao. Will he go for it?)

  87. lao says:

    Too funny.

    The editors have intervened. Check out the latest online version:

    As for the killing of Osama bin Laden, Mr. Obama did what virtually any commander in chief would have done in the same situation. Even President Bill Clinton says in the film “I hope that’s the call I would have made.” For this to be portrayed as the epic achievement of the first term tells you how bare the White House cupboards are.

    Editor’s note: An earlier version of this column included an incomplete quote from Bill Clinton in the last paragraph.

  88. Bob Roberts says:

    Breaking news 1 Heartbroke by coke.

    Breaking news 2 House passes partial Obamacare repeal. Naturally Harry Reid will ensure it never sees the light of day in the Senate.

    Left wing propaganda machines in full court press to influence Supreme Court verdict. Good luck with that theory. Don’t bother inviting me to your pity party when it flops.

    Black market fetus trade.

    Abortion. I’m not saying outlaw it. But it needs to be cut way, way down. It’s not an acceptable alternate method of contraception.

    OK I’m starting a pool. How long until we get an apology from the person & from the network?

    One hopes Obama gets re-elected, the other is being honest,well, more honest than the other but still hoping to salvage Obama’s re-election hopes so not being entirely straight with us.

  89. Bob Roberts says:

    Poor lao, keeps shooting his toes off – probably doesn’t have any left now! He posted this, again:

    “For this to be portrayed as the epic achievement of the first term tells you how bare the White House cupboards are.”
    And for lao to keep harping on this shows how bare HIS cupboards are!

  90. Bob Roberts says:

    I wonder if we should let lao off the hook and explain to him what an editor’s job is?

  91. Bob Roberts says:

    lao says: March 22, 2012 at 6:21 pm
    (rolls eyes) By the way bobby, have you added some more incoherent comments to those threads that have already scrolled away?
    Nah, too busy laughing at the incoherent comments you keep posting in this one!

  92. Bob Roberts says:

    lao says: March 22, 2012 at 6:19 pm
    Clinton and Obama are proven serial liars.

    The only way we can come to any HONEST conclusions about what Clinton would have done was to check his record.

    Clinton had MULTIPLE chances to get bin Laden and he passed each time.

    Now that the editors have DONE THEIR JOB and caught the INSIGNIFICANT ERROR in the quote and corrected it, maybe you will stop turning purple and the steam coming out of your ears will abate. Or you can just go on until your head explodes. We, I assure you, would prefer that outcome.

  93. Bob Roberts says:

    Several times lao has posted this quote from Mr. Rove’s op-ed piece:

    As for the killing of Osama bin Laden, Mr. Obama did what virtually any commander in chief would have done in the same situation.


    Does he even realize he’s arguing that Mr. Rove is incorrect and that liberal/Democrat Presidents in fact would have passed on the opportunity?

    Is he actually stuck on pushing that theme?

    Apparently so!

    You go, girl!

  94. FrankW says:

    Speaking strictly for my war happy alphamale self:
    Only the least capable moron in the universe would not take the opportunity to get bin laden if there was a significant chance of getting him. Even bammy did not want to follow in billy’s “stained” shoes by having to say “I missed him by fifteen minutes”. I gave bammy credit when it was first revealed. But I honestly think every person in the US not in code pink or the congressional black caucus would have taken the shot.
    Just for a second libs should think before trying to defend the actions of obama v. osama. The choice was as simple as breathing. Does that make him brave, no, he was in a situation room behind Marines, secret service, and a few dozen suits. When bammy decides to do the unpopular (to libs) thing (like release his unaltered birth certificate, school records, admit he was wrong on solyndra, fire his AG, etc) I will call him brave. If action or inaction will prop up his numbers he will do it.

  95. FrankW says:

    BTW who is the moron of the day winner?
    Rove who said what he said and not what lao thought he said?
    The editors at WSJ who allowed a typo to see light of day?
    Or lao who focused on two words?

  96. Bob Roberts says:


    Another respect in which the Age of Obama resembles the Jimmy Carter years has started to emerge. As it has become clear that the economy will not rebound dramatically by Election Day, the media are going to Plan B: telling us that an era of diminished expectations and relative poverty isn’t really so bad, once we get used to it. If the president is a Republican, $4 a gallon gasoline is a disaster that takes food off the tables of the working poor. Not so if the president is a Democrat. Now, expensive gasoline is just the price we pay for transitioning to a glorious future of green energy.

    This is no doubt one of the significant things lao is hoping we’ll miss as he jerks and spasms and says “Look what I can do!”.

    Let’s see if lao can actually make an intelligent comment on a topic that matters.

    What say you, lao?

    (sounds of crickets, frogs, etc.)

    I thought so.

    Seriously, what is it lao is afraid we might realize if we stop letting him distract us?

    Oh, this. As CNN assures us, gas isn’t really as expensive as it looks; and it isn’t hurting us as much as we think; and the whole thing is being ginned up by politicians; and we really should just stop complaining about the price of gasoline.

    And, lao adds, even if we do manage to do the right thing and put ourselves on the road to energy security by drilling and building the pipeline to Canada, “it will take ten years” for it to matter.

    All the more reason to start today!

    After all, that’s what lunatic liberal moonbats have been saying for 3-4 decades now, since about the time of Carter, anyway!

  97. Bob Roberts says:

    FrankW says: March 22, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    FrankW, it seems that everyone but lao (and a few of his ilk) is paying attention.

    Great points, all.

  98. Bob Roberts says:

    Dear lao makes a good point about my posts. I post to an audience that has critical thinking skills, has at least some college experience and, most important, is capable of acting in other than zombie drone mode.

    So it’s no wonder he finds my posts completely unintelligible – I post way above kindergarten comprehension level.

    But, just for lao, I’ll try and make this one simple:

    What lao doesn’t get, this time, is that primary campaigns and general election campaigns are different. In the primary you’re running against people who are perhaps not that different than you, at least as far as your audience can tell, so your message must be tuned to try to enhance whatever differences you can in ways that will attract and excite voters.

    But, when the primary is over and it’s time to move to the general election, you do pretty much have to do a general reset, just like shaking an etch-a-sketch.

    For while the candidate, his record, his ideals and such are the same, THE OPPONENT IS DIFFERENT. You need to formulate and execute an entirely different strategy.

    About the only thing that is the same is the importance of highlighting the differences between you & your opponent, which have changed from relatively minor to night and day extreme.

  99. Watcher says:

    Lao – do you REALLY think that Obama could have said don’t kill Bin Laden and had that slip out? they had over 9 months intel that the guy was there and his chief of staff was leaving on unhappy terms.

    It would have ended his career. It was a no brainer. Did you notice that they pulled him off the golf course?

    Do you REALLY think he had a clue? How many different versions of the event did he give? 20 – 30? Yet he plans on showing a movie about it and making it his next signature event around his campaign.

    Give me a break.

  100. Bob Roberts says:

    It occurs to me, and I’m surprised nobody else beat me to this FACT, that the reason lao makes such a big thing about the misquote by Rove in the op-ed is because lao is not only thinking like a lunatic lying liberal moonbat, he’s projecting that sort of thinking onto Rove.

    I re-read lao’s 6:19 post and this FACT jumped out at me. Read it and see what I mean.

  101. Barack Hussein Obama says:

    Bob Roberts says: March 22, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    It occurs to me, and I’m surprised nobody else beat me to this FACT, that the reason lao makes such a big thing about the misquote by Rove in the op-ed is because lao is not only thinking like a lunatic lying liberal moonbat, he’s projecting that sort of thinking onto Rove.

    Uh, it’s all we got.

    Oh, look, crosshairs!

  102. Sam Adams says:

    lao says:
    March 22, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Sam sez: Drilling in the US has the following advantages: 3. The law of supply and demand cannot be repealed.

    At issue is that “drill baby drill” does NOT drop prices at the pump.

    The late 1980s and 1990s show exactly how domestic drilling is not related to gas prices.

    Consider the logic of your position. Oil prices climb and the democrat response is to plead with Saudi Arabia to pump more oil.

    If the democrats believe that asking Saudi Arabia to pump more oil will impact gas prices, then……..


    Further to the point, as Bob Roberts says:
    March 22, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    “Explain why, then, that when Bush announced he was repealing the Democrat executive order that hobbled U.S. exploration and recovery efforts, the price of oil dropped ON THAT NEWS ALONE!”


    Oil was priced at $140. per barrel, and gasoline was priced at $4.25 per gallon. Bush announced that he was lifting the moratorium on off-shore drilling (and people actually believed that Bush meant what he said), and the price of oil dropped over the next few months to $40 per barrel and gasoline to $1.85.

    Despite the media’s attempt to cover for Obama and try and prove that supply has no effect upon demand, the facts are incontrovertible.

  103. Sam Adams says:

    Further to Bob’s point, of course we need more refining capacity. Hundreds of smaller refineries have shut down over the last 40 years because of both efficiencies of scale and the increased costs of regulation. Thus we have almost every refinery running near maximum capacity (otherwise they can’t make any money).

    So what do you see when you see the glowing lights of a refinery at night?

    Personally, I see money.

    One last thought. In the 1920’s and 30’s, refineries would take their waste steam and use it to generate electricity. The government demanded that they choose between producing oil or being a supplier of electricity.

    Now days we would call such an effort “co-generation.” Personally, I see more money.

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