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Nov 12 2012

Open Thread


Via the People’s Cube, on tips from Lyle, Turkey Lurker, and Artfldgr.

43 Responses to “Open Thread”

  1. Bob Roberts says:

    Getting what they deserve, according to their masters: Ohio families receiving food stamps could get an unwelcome surprise come January: $50 less every month in assistance.

    For the 869,000 households enrolled in the program for the poorest Ohioans, that could amount to about $520 million annually out of the grocery budgets.

    Obamacare reality: U.S. employees will pay between 8 percent and 36 percent more in premiums for its medical coverage in 2013, prompting some of the 1.4 million workers at the nation’s largest private employer to say they will forego coverage altogether.

    People are going to lose the health care they have, or the costs will skyrocket.

    In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Mitt Romney got zero votes

    Vot fraud/tampering, voter intimidation, take your pick. One or the other, if not both.

    Fearing an increase in capital gains and dividend taxes, many of the rich are unloading stocks, businesses and homes before the end of the year.

    Deliberate misdirection: Look over here, look at this, don’t mind the man behind the curtain!

    Broadwell’s father said Sunday his daughter is the victim of character assassination and implied the bombshell story is just a smoke screen for something bigger.

    “This is about something else entirely, and the truth will come out,” Broadwell’s dad, Paul Krantz, told the Daily News outside his home in Bismarck, N.D.

    “There is a lot more that is going to come out,” said Krantz, claiming he was not allowed to elaborate. “You wait and see. There’s a lot more here than meets the eye.”

    Obama and his team are desperate to distract us. This is basically a repeat of the Nixon administraion, but with Democrats in place of Republicans.

  2. Bob Roberts says:

    Obama sends in his storm troopers.

    “Consensual” my ass!

  3. Bob Roberts says:

    THANKS OBAMA, THANKS DEMOCRATS: Gas at $6.44/gal at Florida station.

    The station is one frequented by those returning rental cars, apparently. Gas is available for close to half that price some distance away, apparently.

  4. Bob Roberts says:

    Dontations to hurricane Sandy victims wind up dumped on sidewalk.

    Apparently beggars CAN be choosers… when they’re moonbats!

    Canadian dhimmis get a taste of their future after coddling Islamists for so long.

    “Canada will burn; Praise Allah”

    Obamunists desperate to distract from Fast & Furious/Benghazi, leak e-mails.

    The amusing thing is MISTRESS #1 telling MISTRESS #2 to “stay away from my man”.

    I love how stupid women who chose the mistress status are. Don’t they get it? If he cheats on his wife, why do they think they have any sort of promise he’s going to be true to them?

    As far as I’m concerned as soon as he does they got what they deserved.

    And that goes just the same when it’s a woman cheating on the husband.

    Anyone who gets involved in a cheating situation is foolish, IMHO.

  5. Bob Roberts says:

    Not only will the so-called “Bush” tax cuts expire soon, the more significant tax consequence is all the tax INCREASES from obamacare.

    And for idiots in CA who voted for huge tax increases here, that’s only the start. Prop 30 is going to hit us hard. And locally in San Diego county Prop Z will too!

  6. IslandLifer says:

    SanFranSicko now handing out transgender “sex reassignment” surgery:

  7. Bob Roberts says:

    Apparently if you still are stupid enough to be involved in Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Change Alarmism (CACCA for short), the answer is to go frack yourself.

    Too bad Obama and his minions are doing all they can to stop fracking, because, well moonbats, READ IT AND WEEP:

    A good example is the innovation of fracked gas, which has made the price of natural gas drop dramatically — allowing a switch in electricity production away from coal. This in turn has singlehandedly caused the United States to reduce its annual CO2 emissions by about 500Mt, or about twice as much as the entire global reductions from the last 20 years of international climate negotiations. Moreover, it has not cost the United States anything — in fact, U.S. consumers are saving about $100 billion per year in cheaper prices. That’s a policy that is easy to sell around the world.

    My my… it turns out a good frack is the answer!

    The WaPo is apparently on a hot streak of really dumb headlines. Here is Powerline about today’s howler.

    I guess they find a couple people who are starting to sound a bit like moonbats routinely do (full of doom and gloom) and they assume every Republican feels that way.

    Here, again from POWERLINE, is yesterday’s WaPo nonsense.

    Apparently the WaPo is stunned that the Republicans are actually starting to plan for 2014 and beyond. As if the Democrats just stopped trying after 2010, 2004 or 2000.

    As for the first headline, yeah, a lot of us are troubled, me included. But, unlike moonbats, we accept the conditions we find and we stand firm in our resolve to weather the coming storm and do all we can to reverse the tide of idiocy and filth that the moonbats are pushing toward and over us. We will bend like reeds and , when brighter, clearer, calmer conditions return, we will soldier on.

    From T.S. Elliot:

    If we take the widest and wisest view of a Cause, there is no such thing as a Lost Cause because there is no such thing as a Gained Cause. We fight for lost causes because we know that our defeat and dismay may be the preface to our successors’ victory, though that victory itself will be temporary; we fight rather to keep something alive than in the expectation that anything will triumph.

  8. Bob Roberts says:

    How should the Republican House treat Obama and the Democrat Senate?

    The 2012 results thus imply that the Republican tone towards President Obama should mirror the tone of congressional Democrats, including then-Senator Obama, towards President Bush after the 2004 election. They also imply that the deference of the opposition party to the president should be same. In other words, the default level of deference should be zero (which is not, of course, the same thing as always opposing the president and his positions).

    But no president should be treated as nastily as congressional Democrats treated George W. Bush. Instead, Republicans should grant Obama zero deference but do so with a nicer tone.

  9. Bob Roberts says:

    There was no single reason Obama was re-elected and Romney lost. Sadly, the most important reasons, election fraud and voter intimidation, will be swept under the rug. Even the U.N. observers blurted out that they couldn’t believe we didn’t have more secure ways of ensuring Democrats didn’t vote early and often, as they certainly do.

    Thomas Sowell makes some good points about how and why the election went the way it did.

    Not sure I agree 100% with everything, but he’s always worth a read.

    The best point he makes is one several here made: We keep running these milquetoast moderates. Romney seemed to start breaking out of that mold, then fell right back into it and that is one small part of why he failed when we needed him most.

    And while there are, thanks to the incompetence of team Obama, many looming threats, the reality of a nuclear armed Iran is about to overshadow all of them.

  10. Bob Roberts says:

    Exit poll shows even moonbats got it right – the problem was they still suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome.

    Apparently it’s a chronic condition. Or maybe they’re just smoking too much chronic?

    Anyway, thanks to the moonbats, as California goes, so goes the nation!

    Which is dire news, because California is on the fast track to becoming Greece and our only fading hope is for a bailout from the wiser states.

    A bailout that is more and more unlikely to come with every passed Democrat tax or spending bill.

    Say, how long has it been since the Democrats passed a budget again?

    And when was Guantanamo supposed to close?

    Anyone want to bet Obama will continue to try and ignore Guantanamo and eventually will hand that hot potato over to his successor?

    Unless, of course, he ignores the Constitution and takes a 3rd term.

  11. IslandLifer says:


  12. IslandLifer says:

    The proper stance when firing your pistol (lol!)

  13. johnnosk says:

    1455 days to go

  14. Alphamail says:

    IslandLifer @ 10:28 pm

    Rod Serling couldn’t write that sh*t:

    “…the mismatch between their bodies and their gender identities…”

    F*n twilight zone

  15. F.D.R. in Hell says:

    Mr. Whittle presents the case for why I’m down here…
    and why many in this Administration are destined to join me and Uncle Joe and Adolph and the rest of us on the 8th Circle, Bolgia 5.

  16. Bloodless Coup says:

    Learn the Truth about Obama and his administration before it’s too late…

    Go to

  17. Steve says:

    Bill O’Reilly takes on Secular America who ‘he says’ is trying to destroy America…

  18. Sam Adams says:

    In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Mitt Romney got zero votes

    Vot fraud/tampering, voter intimidation, take your pick. One or the other, if not both.

    Romney may have conceded the election (prematurely) but we should not. Isn’t there someone in PA who has access to the list of names of those who voted who can start calling folks and find at least some people who claimed to have voted for Romney?

    Seriously, 19,605 to 0?

    Our those voting districts where there were more votes cast than registered voters? Who is going to start at the top of the list of names of registered voters, and find those who state that they didn’t vote.

    It is time for those who care about the republic to start doing something to document this fraudulent election. How many examples of fraud will be needed to take the issue before a judge or two?

  19. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    Your link described exactly the conundrum we are in

    Some may argue that, based on exit polls and because Republicans’ retained House control, the president has no mandate for bigger government, or for more regulations or for higher taxes. What that analysis overlooks is the disconnect between people who tell pollsters they favor smaller, less-intrusive, less-costly government, but in the next breath demand government-provided benefits, favored treatment and, in the case of businesses, punishment of their competitors.

  20. Winston Smith says:

    Maybe the American people need to see the results of Obamas plan to raise taxes. Maybe the Republicans should take 2 votes on 2 bills. First Vote: Delcare that one a vote of Principles – refusing to raise rates.
    2nd vote say “Ok, Mister President, since the country relected you we will agree to raise rates to teach the American people about what happens when you raise tax rates in a weak economy. As for what to cut – the ball is in your court Mr. President. You decide on the cuts and we will add them to the budget bill”

    At this point Obama would own it all 100% as well as the result. In 2014 and 2106 the results of that should result in rather unfortunate consequences – especially when combined with the effects of ObamaCare. Sure alot of people will lose their jobs but the only other alternative is for the Republicans to resists at which point Obama, the Democrats and the Media will blame Republican obstructionism. Granted the negative effects on the economy would likely be severe. But the morons who gave him another 4 years need to be taught a lesson.

  21. Winston Smith says:

    Im sure there was massive vote fraud, but with that commie stooge Eric Holder in charge of the Department of InJustice nothing will come of it.

  22. Mickey Shea says:

    Can’t give spooks the death penalty because libs say they are TOO DUMB

  23. Artfldgr says:

    Vpered!!!! (Forwards!)
    Vpered (1909 – 1912) was an organisation within Russian Social Democracy set up by Alexander Bogdanov in December 1909.[1] Alongside Bogdanov Anatoly Lunacharsky, Mikhail Pokrovsky, Grigory Aleksinsky, Stanislav Volski and Martyn Liadov, were involved in the breakaway group. While it originated within the Bolshevik wing of Russian Social Democracy, the group soon became highly critical of Lenin.

    Socialist League Vpered (founded 2005)
    Socialist League Vpered (“Forward”, Russian: Социалистическое движение “Вперёд”) was a radical left-wing political organisation in Russia. It was the Russian section of the reunified Fourth International.

    It was founded in 2005 as the split from Socialist Resistance, a Russian group affiliated with the Committee for a Workers’ International. In February 2008, it obtained permanent observer status in the reunified Fourth International. In February 2010 it become the Russian section of the reunified Fourth International.

    Fourth International (post-reunification)

    After 1963
    Eighth World Congress: anti-imperialist focus
    Ninth World Congress: Vietnam solidarity
    Tenth World Congress: guerrilla debate
    Eleventh World Congress: end of factionalism
    Twelfth World Congress: SWP rejects Trotskyism
    Thirteenth World Congress: ‘New World Order’
    Fourteenth World Congress: regroupment
    Fifteenth World Congress: transformation
    Sixteenth World Congress: ecosocialism

  24. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    The troll Howard actually said something worth pausing over.

    In between the fits of hate and bile, came this little gem

    No, IDIOT: hatemongering as a political tool is over. Despite your hatred for non-whites, they can grasp lower taxes and limited gov’t just as much as you can.

    Beside the point that it was a strategy of race and class war by the DEM’S that drove this election over the edge, it was interesting to see the troll now acknowledge that his dream totalitarian state could potentially be subject to some form of limiting mechanism

    And just to ensure his statement was not being misinterpreted, it was followed by this:

    Conservatism as a policy will be just fine because it makes sense and is a necessary counterweight to spending and taxing too much.

    To be sure, he tried to cover this with large steamy piles of invective, but liberalism’s poorly hidden fault line was exposed by him .

    Then there is this.,0,7483859,full.column
    The beast of Liberalism has finally been unchained and released onto California.
    Yet the LA Times now frets over the powerless condition of Republicans.
    Why ?
    Could it be that they are subconsciously aware that the state cannot endlessly chase off producers to be replaced with more state ?
    Is it possible deep down they know their ideology is bankrupt, for it is instead centered solely around the destruction of it’s enemies ?
    Hey Howard
    Here is a conundrum for you.
    When the wrath of Liberalism is finally fulfilled with Conservatives annihilated,
    who will dare touch conservatism ?

    You may want to retract that statement, because (as General Petraeus will now attest to) your masters DO keep lists.

    It’s interesting how liberals time delay implementation of their policies (ie O Care) until such time as it causes the least amount of damage to their brand.

    I suspect Gov Moonbeam and his new politburo of Democrats will likely hold off on utopia until such time that some Republican somewhere in the future can be blamed for it’s impending misery.

  25. F.D.R. in Hell says:

    Well, well, well… it’s Uncle Joe and Uncle Tom.

  26. Bo-Jangles says:

    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear…” – Marcus Tullius Cicero

  27. Sam Adams says:

    Winston Smith says:
    November 13, 2012 at 6:31 am

    Im sure there was massive vote fraud, but with that commie stooge Eric Holder in charge of the Department of InJustice nothing will come of it.

    Voting laws and their enforcement are generally state, not federal issues. It is up to the Secretary of State of each individual state to uphold their laws and insure the integrity of the vote. I believe that voters in the individual states could actually do quite a bit to bring the massive voter fraud to light.

    Of course Eric the Red will do everything possible to disrupt such an effort. But it is up to we, the people, to not take this lying down.

  28. Sam Adams says:

    Today only. Beck’s new book “Agenda 21” for sale at half price.

    Agenda 21 is the UN effort for sustainable development. One of their ads has a bunch of old people saying “I’ve lived a good life.” The implication is clearly that they should get out of the way for new people. Another ad shows a lake bed and suggests we erase every trace that people were there.

    Not a happy though book.

  29. Dr. 9 says:

    On Nov. 6th, a majority(?) of the American sheeple decided that they don’t mind living in a Marxist country. They also don’t mind limiting the freedoms of people they disagree with. Their votes proved they have no problem with extorting from those who work and earn what they have, and giving it to those who refuse to work and produce anything other than more parasites.

    History shows that these are the clear signs of a society in “serious” decline. In fact, we are rotting from within. We are committing national suicide while the world watches and applaudes. Ironically, most of those applause are coming from a large part of our own population, who are now seen as some of the weakest and dumbest people on the planet, because what they are applauding is the demise of America.

  30. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    Does this still apply if your Secretary of State is a Soros installed lackey, plus the fraud being perpetrated originates out of his own office ?
    Incidentally, voter ID went down in flames here because the media convinced a Democrat majority in a months long campaign that requiring an ID was akin to Republicans stealing their vote, even though Democrats have no problem in this aria as well

  31. Sam Adams says:

    Ghost, what can I say? The Coleman-Frankin race is a textbook case of voter fraud resulting in a stolen election.

  32. Clingtomyguns says:

    The proof keeps coming that the election was stolen by the libs … the question is what are decent Americans going to do about it? The country should look to Romney first, and he owes it to himself and the country, just as Soros uses his millions to subvert the vote, but either make a stand now, or forever relegate the constitutional voting process to the ash heap of history, then regardless of who the Repubs decide who to pander to next, it won’t matter. Col. West, thanks for not going out with a whimper … he could use some assistance, and might be ground zero for unearthing this massive fraud.

  33. Clingtomyguns says:

    How hard would it have been to have the vote count flip from one candidate to another by rigged machines. Turns out not that hard at all, as testified to under oath. Unless the source code was inspected, nearly undetectable. I hope Allen West’s group is on this, and someone for Romney too. Whether this turns the tide of the election for Romeny or not, we know it occurred, and the American people deserve no less than for patriots to do everything in their power to expose it fully. Otherwise, there will never, ever be another election that matters again, given the Democraps who perpetrated this are now emboldened for their lifetime acheivement of fraudulently reelecting Obama, and beating their breasts right now thinking of how they subverted the votes of all the conservatives in fly-over country. It will happen again, again and again.

  34. whotothewhat says:

    Let all good patriots sign the petition to have there respective states secede from the USA.

    I have signed my states petition, found it on this news site.

    W.H. Petition Calls for Stripping Citizenship and Exile for Anyone Who Signs Petition to Secede

  35. whotothewhat says:


    After reading this new article below I googled my home state petition drive to secede and signed it.

    whotothewhat says:
    November 13, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Let all good patriots sign the petition to have there respective states secede from the USA.

    I have signed my states petition, found it on this news site.

    W.H. Petition Calls for Stripping Citizenship and Exile for Anyone Who Signs Petition to Secede

  36. Bob Roberts says:

    Where do moonbats go when they die?

    A more important question is HOW do they die – often by their own hand, perhaps as they realize just how senseless and evil their lives have become.

    Dennis Avner, the Nevada man who spent years trying to morph his body into that of a cat has died. He was 54.
    A veteran of the U.S. Navy, Avner underwent a series of radical body modification procedures to make himself look like a female cat, from whiskers and ears to a mechanical tail.
    His body was found in his home in Tonopah on November 5.

    They have not yet “officially” ruled it a suicide, but that’s what is apparently coming.

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