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Nov 21 2012

Open Thread


Via The Looking Spoon, on a tip from TED.

38 Responses to “Open Thread”

  1. AC says:

    Remember when liberals whined that Obamacare was nothing like health care from the DMV? Ubermoonbat Paul Krugman actually likes the idea of DMV-led health care

  2. AC says:

    Here’s a nauseating bit of moonbat “journalism”

    The money quotes:

    “He’s trying to refinish and refurbish these houses so we can get more people in the neighborhood instead of them tearing them down,” Blair said.


    Says the reporter: “The [victimized property owner] doesn’t live here so why he was here at 7:30 in the morning has not been explained.”

    It’s called work, which is a foreign concept to those graduating from moonbat journalism schools.

  3. AC says:

    Last night I remarked that Stockton’s robbery epidemic would not last long in Houston.

    Sure enough, within 24 hours, it didn’t take two Houston robbers long to mess with Texas and be taken out of commission by a law-abiding citizen.

  4. Skyfall says:

    I’d like to suggest that since less than half of America cares about this, and since more than half of America supports this guy, instead of beating a dead horse (we KNOW how corrupt, traitorous, seditious and anti-American Obama and the progs are) we spend more time focusing on moving towards reliance on the Lord and ourselves (in that order).

    We can no longer count on the benign protection of the Constitution or assume that America takes care of it’s own…and since there is no longer a majority of people who will do the right thing, esp. at the ballot box, then we must begin to withdraw from the system, stop supporting it, and begin building a new nation.

  5. Zilla says:

    Happy Thanksgiving, Dave, and to all the countermoonbat friends who hang out here in the Moonbattery comments section!

  6. Jim says:

    You Own It

    Congratulations to the Democrats and Young People! You now own it.
    The next terrorist attack, you own it.
    Can’t get a job after graduation, you own it.
    Sky rocketing energy prices due to Obama’s EPA shutting down the energy producing states, you own it.
    A nuclear Iran, you own it.
    Bowing to the Soviet Union, you own it.
    Another severe recession, you own it.
    A volatile border with Mexico, you own it.
    Trouble getting good health care, you own it.
    Higher health insurance costs and health care costs, you own it.
    Death panels, you own it.
    No budget, you own it.
    Our allies mistrust, you own it.
    Another four trillion of debt, you own it.
    More Benghazi situations, you own it.
    No one willing to join the military, you own it.
    Trouble getting a loan to buy a home, you own it.
    More criminal gangs roaming the streets, you own it.
    More dependency on food stamps, you own it.
    Trouble finding good employment, you own it.
    Several part time jobs instead of a good job, you own it.
    A World Government, you own it.
    The UN governing the United States instead of ourselves, you own it.
    A Senate that will not bring any legislation to the table unless it is “Dead on Arrival”, you own it.
    China controlling our world trade trampling all over us, you own it.
    Loss of our freedoms as we have known it in the past, you own it.
    A dictatorship instead of a democracy that follows the Constituion, you own it.
    Less take home pay, you own it.
    Higher living costs, you own it.
    Driving a car that looks like a toy, you own it.
    More government corruption and lies, you own it.
    Massive inflation, you own it.
    More toleration of extreme and fanatical Islamists, you own it.
    Terrorist attacks called work place incidents, you own it.
    Your revenge instead of love of country, you own it.
    President George W. Bush is out of it now, and there is not another good man for you to villify and lie about. In a way I am relieved that another good man will not be blamed when it was impossible to clean up this mess you voted for.
    Have a good day.
    God bless the United States!
    God is our only hope now.

  7. Bill T says:

    AC says:
    November 21, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Could be an appropriate for the occasion, at least the title.

  8. Bob Roberts says:

    Obama, the servant.

    Obama receiving the kind of contempt that he himself usually specializes in dishing out to his presumed inferiors:

    On his trip to Cambodia, a country he claimed didn’t deserve a visit due to its strongman government, first lady Bun Rany greeted Obama with a traditional “sampeah” pressed-hands greeting reserved for servants, a little dig that was probably lost on him but not to Asians.

    In the sampeah, “the higher the hands and the lower the bow, the more respect is shown.” Below is the ocular proof.

    As usual, Obama served himself politically in what was largely a Potemkin mission abroad.

  9. Bob Roberts says:

    By the way, in Burma, Obama told the Burmese leaders that he too wished he could govern without opposition, calling into question whether he himself believed in the representative government he was advocating.

  10. Bob Roberts says:

    Arab terrorist rockets foil arab terrorist protest.

    Arab rockets don’t discriminate, after all.

  11. Ummah Gummah says:

    Bob Roberts says:
    November 21, 2012 at 10:00 pm
    Obama, the servant.

    Obama receiving the kind of contempt that he himself usually specializes in dishing out to his presumed inferiors:

    The guy can’t even be bothered to wear a suit, as would befit an American President. He panders to all these countries with his cultural cross-dressing.

    I don’t see the moozeleembehs shaving before they come here, for instance.


  12. Bob Roberts says:

    Amityville Horror 2012:

    Pete Picucci, 96, spends hours a day sitting in front of his fireplace, the lone source of warmth after Sandy flooded his home, destroying pretty much everything.

    His wife is in the hospital after suffering a heart attack before the storm. He is relying on neighbors to help him clean up, a process that is far from over.

    Then Friday came the notice, which said that “to prevent a summons please don’t put debris outside.”

  13. Bob Roberts says:

    Skyfall says: November 21, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    …since more than half of America supports this guy…


    Don’t be so sure about that. While it seems nobody cares enough to look into it, there are clear indications of voter fraud which likely swayed the election. Our election process is flawed, obviously, when people can show up in a town where they have never been seen, register, vote, leave and never be seen again.

    Or in another state, show up, register to vote, give their address as a park bench somewhere, vote, leave and again never be seen again.

    It’s time we started aggressively looking into this or, actually, it’s well past time because now we’re stuck with Obama and Democrats in the Senate for 4 more years.

    CA is a big part of the problem.

  14. justme says:

    Skyfall: That is exactly the conclusion I came to.

    In fact, we should get out of the way of the Liberals, let them do everything they want, tell the Republicans in Congress to “vote present” for the next few years on every piece of Communism the fraud from chicago by way of Hawaii, Indonesia, Kenya and Pakistan puts forth.

    If the straw man lays down on his own, they have no one to blame when the entire nation is aflame. Burn it to the ground. Learn to use stabbing weapons at close range once you are out of bullets. The quicker this happens, the better off we will be.

  15. Highway Hospital Student says:

    It’s time we started aggressively looking into this or, actually, it’s well past time because now we’re stuck with Obama and Democrats in the Senate for 4 more years.

    No we’re not….we have the recall. BO could be recalled on the basis of fraud, or even because of the foreign money his campaign used to take the election.

    That would of course, presume some kind of action.

    The likelihood is almost zero however, since BO could have been impeached for several reasons during his first four years, not the least of which was a forged birth certificate, a stolen SS# or a forged selective service card.


    Burn it to the ground. Learn to use stabbing weapons at close range once you are out of bullets. The quicker this happens, the better off we will be.

    …which is, I believe, a large part of the idiotic thinking that kept a lot of the right from voting against BO. That and sticking their noses up against a Mormon.


    If the straw man (republicans) lays down on his own, they have no one to blame when the entire nation is aflame.

    You obviously don’t know liberals.

  16. justme says:

    Highway… if the Straw Man lays down on his own, the Liberals will have to go back to their traditional Straw Man: The Jews. Hitler was for Socialism as was Stalin. You know Stalin, the Liberal’s idol as exemplified in Oliver Stone’s “History” of WWII now airing, Uncle Joe did no wrong… Uncle Joe was getting ready to exterminate his Jews had it not been for that pesky aneurism and his palace guards being too terrified at disturbing him when he didn’t awake at his normal time… he would have been building Russian Auschwitzs all along the Black Sea.

    American Jews would have voted for Hitler if he was a Democrat. “He didn’t mean it when he wrote Mein Kampf!”We have to be afraid of those evil Republicans, Obama ie Hitler says how much he wants to “take care of us,” give us everything we “deserve” and have Final Solutions to “our” problems. Those despicable Republicans want to force Christianity on us and won’t pay for abortions!

  17. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    Of course Krugman’s band of shoe licking zombies run cover for him by reciting the ease of their experiences in the simple act of renewing their drivers licenses.
    Around here it’s a three to four month wait to get a kid a road test.
    The TSA even has an app for anal exam wait times
    But the grand daddy is a permit to install drainage tile. A full year.

    But walk in and apply for the SNAP program.
    Instant results.
    (they check financial qualifications in due time)

  18. Highway Hospital Student says:


    I think you’re right.

    A liberal could have a candidate running on an Exterminating Jews platform and Jews would sew on a yellow star in solidarity for him — cursing the republicans the whole time.

  19. Sam Adams says:

    Highway Hospital Student says:
    November 22, 2012 at 6:53 am

    If the straw man (republicans) lays down on his own, they have no one to blame when the entire nation is aflame.

    “You obviously don’t know liberals.”

    My vote for comment of the day.

    Liberals will blame republicans for not laying down fast enough, for not supporting their efforts between 2008 and 2012, and on and on. Bush derangement syndrome will not disappear either. FDR likely continued to blame Hoover and the republicans for the Great Depression until 1944.

  20. Sam Adams says:

    “You obviously don’t know liberals.”

    Along that theme, liberals will continue to blame the rich, even if tax rates are raised to 100% for not creating enough jobs, for not spending money to stimulate the economy, for not paying their fair share (after all, tax rates could be 150%).

    The Jews will continue to be blamed even after Israel is a black smoking ash heap. Once Israel is destroyed, the poor folks in Gaza will complain that they are no longer receiving as much aid as they did when Israel existed.

  21. Sam Adams says:

    The MSM is all in line to blame higher food prices on the drought. Those ethanol mandates and the government money printing presses running overtime obviously have had nothing to do with it.

  22. Sam Adams says:

    AC says:
    November 21, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Man, how I love Texans. BTW, the only downside to this story is that one of the robbers escaped, apparently unharmed. Do you think he might re-evaluate the error of his ways and live a better, more honest and noble life?

  23. Smorfia48 says:

    Tourist buys truffles! In Italy!

    How do moonbat “journalists” interpret this pivotal historical event?

    Like this:

    “This new kind of spending goes a long way to help his [Jay-Z’s] brand while bolstering a new kind of black identity”

    “their spending habits to embrace the delicacies of the 1% (or crucially, the white 1%) is clever work on his part”

    “Jay-Z understands the cultural capital of food, and with his purchase he is showing the world that taste is not for the white elite to dictate.”

    And, of course,

    “Assumptions are slowly being challenged.”

  24. Bob Roberts says:

    In this article we found out that Obama once again openly admitted his disdain for our Constitution and the Republic it created when he told Burmese leaders he too wished he could govern without opposition.

    No doubt he’ll be taking a cue from Mohammed Morsi on that idea.

    Morsi decreed immunity for the panel drafting a new constitution from any possible court decisions to dissolve it. He granted the same protection to the upper chamber of parliament, which is largely toothless. Several courts are currently looking into cases demanding the dissolution of both bodies.

    The Egyptian leader also decreed that all decisions he has made since taking office in June and until a new constitution is adopted are not subject to appeal in court or by any other authority, a move that places Morsi above oversight of any kind. He already has legislative powers after the powerful lower chamber was dissolved days before he took office June 30.

    So much for the “arab spring” bringing better, more representative government to the region/world.

    One tiny step forward, several giant leaps back.

    The purpose of these moves is, of course, personal: Power. In the short term the excuse is to illegally seek a new trial for Mubarak and his associates. Mubarak was convicted in June to life in prison for failing to stop the killing of protesters during last year’s uprising against his rule, but many Egyptians were angered that he wasn’t convicted of actually ordering the crackdown and that his security chief, Habib el-Adly, was not sentenced to death. Several top police commanders were acquitted, and Mubarak and his sons were found not guilty of corruption charges.

    They had their day in court and it’s over, but moonbats being moonbats, and clearly Egypt has their share, since the trials didn’t come out the way they wanted they’re going to change the rules so they can start over, do it again. Moonbats are never satisfied when things don’t go their way, after all. They can’t accept the fact they’re wrong.

    Morsi also on Thursday fired the country’s top prosecutor by decreeing with immediate effect that he could only stay in office for four years. Abdel-Maguid Mahmoud has been in the job for close to a decade. Morsi fired Mahmoud for the first time in October, but had to rescind his decision when he found that the powers of his office do not empower him to do so.

  25. Bob Roberts says:

    Figures on government spending and debt (last six digits are eliminated). The government’s fiscal year runs Oct. 1 through Sept. 30.

    Remember to add six zeros to these figures, to put them in perspective, i.e. the first number is 16 TRILLION, not 16 million.

    Total public debt subject to limit Nov. 20 16,253,547

    Statutory debt limit 16,394,000

    Total public debt outstanding Nov. 20 16,292,689

    Deficit fiscal year 2012 through October 119,995

    Deficit same period 2011 98,466

    Outlays fiscal year 2012 through October 304,311

    Outlays same period 2011 261,539

    It is only a matter of time before investors realize what a bad bet the U.S. is under Obama/Democrats. If you think the last credit crunch was bad, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet!

  26. Bob Roberts says:

    And I ask again a question others here no doubt also share:

    What good is a “debt limit” that is automatically raised every time we approach it?

    It’s a joke.

  27. Sinister66 says:

    Sam Adams says:

    “Liberals will blame republicans for not laying down fast enough, for not supporting their efforts between 2008 and 2012, and on and on.”

    Why wouldnt they when you have articles like this”

  28. Sinister66 says:

    Bob Roberts says

    Government size and spending are a huge problem. But how far back in history do you have to go to find a POTUS where this actually went down. Seems the only time people complain about government spending is when thier party isnt in power.

  29. Sam Adams says:

    Government size and spending are a huge problem. But how far back in history do you have to go to find a POTUS where this actually went down.

    Warren G. Harding

    The economic situation in 1920 was grim. By that year unemployment had jumped from 4 percent to nearly 12 percent, and GNP declined 17 percent. No wonder, then, that Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover — falsely characterized as a supporter of laissez-faire economics — urged President Harding to consider an array of interventions to turn the economy around. Hoover was ignored.

    Instead of “fiscal stimulus,” Harding cut the government’s budget nearly in half between 1920 and 1922. The rest of Harding’s approach was equally laissez-faire. Tax rates were slashed for all income groups. The national debt was reduced by one-third. The Federal Reserve’s activity, moreover, was hardly noticeable. As one economic historian puts it, “Despite the severity of the contraction, the Fed did not move to use its powers to turn the money supply around and fight the contraction.”2 By the late summer of 1921, signs of recovery were already visible. The following year, unemployment was back down to 6.7 percent and was only 2.4 percent by 1923.

    It is instructive to compare the American response in this period to that of Japan. In 1920, the Japanese government introduced the fundamentals of a planned economy, with the aim of keeping prices artificially high. According to economist Benjamin Anderson, “The great banks, the concentrated industries, and the government got together, destroyed the freedom of the markets, arrested the decline in commodity prices, and held the Japanese price level high above the receding world level for seven years. During these years Japan endured chronic industrial stagnation and at the end, in 1927, she had a banking crisis of such severity that many great branch bank systems went down, as well as many industries. It was a stupid policy. In the effort to avert losses on inventory representing one year’s production, Japan lost seven years.”3

    The U.S., by contrast, allowed its economy to readjust. “In 1920—21,” writes Anderson, “we took our losses, we readjusted our financial structure, we endured our depression, and in August 1921 we started up again. . . . The rally in business production and employment that started in August 1921 was soundly based on a drastic cleaning up of credit weakness, a drastic reduction in the costs of production, and on the free play of private enterprise. It was not based on governmental policy designed to make business good.” The federal government did not do what Keynesian economists ever since have urged it to do: run unbalanced budgets and prime the pump through increased expenditures. Rather, there prevailed the old-fashioned view that government should keep spending and taxation low and reduce the public debt.

    Harding was the last president to embrace free market principles. His administration ushered in the Roaring 20s. One third of the national debt, created by WWI was repaid.

  30. Peter Pissflaps says:

    “Harding was the last president to embrace free market principles.”

    What about Coolidge?

  31. Highway Hospital Student says:

    We could not do better than Coolidge.

    That pic of BO trying to act like a 16 year old reminds me of Frank Zappa’s comment after recording the commercial disaster, FREAK OUT: namely, “The music industry is controlled by a 12 year-old girl playing 45’s on her Hi-Fi in her yellow wallpapered bedroom.”

    What’s changed is that the same 12 year old mentality is in the White House.

    Calvin and Frank…honorable white men.

  32. Steve says:

    Got 4 minutes? The 37 floats of the 2012 Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade:

  33. Sinister66 says:

    Sam Adams says:

    So in other words 90 years.

  34. Sam Adams says:

    Peter Pissflaps says:
    November 22, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    “Harding was the last president to embrace free market principles.”

    What about Coolidge?

    Coolidge followed in Harding’s footsteps. You are right; he was the last. These two guys are demonized by the left as ineffective presidents because of their hands off approach to “managing” the economy. Unfortunately, Coolidge set it up so that Hoover was the next president. Hoover couldn’t have been more different than Harding and Coolidge. He sincerely believed in scientific management of the economy, and that government should intervene to correct problems with the private market. FDR followed in Hoover’s footsteps, despite being from the opposite party.

  35. Sam Adams says:

    Sinister66 says:
    November 22, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    Sam Adams says:

    So in other words 90 years.

    Yes, indeed. That is about how long we have been saddled with the Federal Reserve, and the Federal Income Tax. It roughly coincides with “progressives” taking over both parties.

    The democrats are the party in favor of big government. The republicans have given lip service to being the party of small government, but have largely embraces big government principles. The TEA party is the first movement in probably 90 years which has actively worked to scale back the size and scope of government.

    Unfortunately the federal government in consuming more of your freedom every day. Most people hardly notice it.

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