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Dec 27 2012

Open Thread


38 Responses to “Open Thread”

  1. Skyfall says:

    …and then, there is Army strong.

  2. wingmann says:


  3. Kelly says:

    RIP General.

  4. Bob Roberts says:

    “We’re going to cut it off, then we’re going to kill it.”


    Will ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Accelerate Millionaire Deaths?

    It makes sense that those with an elderly family member on life support with little chance to survive who stand to gain millions, or lose millions if the person’s death happens after December 31, 2012, will certainly consider pulling the plug sooner rather than later.

    In 2010, after a year in which the estate tax was zeroed out altogether, Congress passed a law that set the estate tax at 35 percent and exempted all estates under $5 million, adjusted for inflation. That law expires in January 2013 when the exemption will fall to $1 million and the tax will rise to 55 percent.

    Many families are faced with a stark proposition. If the life of an elderly wealthy family member extends into 2013, the tax bills will be substantially higher. An estate that could bequest $3 million this year will leave just $1.9 million after taxes next year. Shifting a death from January to December could produce $1.1 million in tax savings.

    Germany accused of ‘deporting’ its elderly: Rising numbers moved to Asia and Eastern Europe because of sky-high care costs

    German pensioners are being sent to care homes in Eastern Europe and Asia in what has been described as an ‘inhumane deportation’.
    Rising numbers of the elderly and sick are moved overseas for long-term care because of sky-high costs at home.
    Some private healthcare providers are even building homes overseas, while state insurers are also investigating whether they can care for their clients abroad.
    Experts describe a time bomb’ of increasing numbers unable to afford the growing costs of retirement homes.

    Moonbat schooled by reality, learns important lesson.

    Matt Damon: ‘Game is rigged’

    “It’s easier now more than ever in my life to feel the fix is in, the game is rigged and no matter how hard you work to change things, it just doesn’t matter.”

    Yeah, when you vote moonbat, that’s what you get!

    “We’re at a point where politicians don’t really get any benefit from engaging with long-term issues. Instead, it’s all about the next election cycle. Those guys in the House don’t do anything now but run for office. So unless they can find some little thing that zips them up a couple of points in the polls, they’re not interested.

    More evidence the election was rigged.

    Where’s the excitement, the crowds of adoring sycophants? Why can’t Obama get a full house even for his inaguration?

    What’s next – free hotel rooms to those who show up for him?

  5. Bob Roberts says:

    Ya gotta give respect to the Army and Marines. Sure the USAF and USN are important too, but the Army and Marines are in the shit and they keep smilin’.

  6. Bob Roberts says:

    Perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black:

    Reid: House ‘Being Operated With A Dictatorship Of The Speaker’

    Just like it was under Pelosi. Just like the Senate is run under him.

  7. Skyfall says:

    Mr. Roberts, aside from posting way too many things and having a conversation with yourself, in this case I find it inappropriate as well.

    An American hero just died. This isn’t the time or place for Pelosi or Obama or all your links to unrelated articles.

    Have some respect.

  8. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    Lisa Jackson may be leaving the EPA, but like a skunk
    her policies will linger

  9. Bob Roberts says:

    U.S. population projected at 315.1 million on New Year’s Day

    Is that including or without all the illegal aliens?

    REID: Boehner runs ‘dictatorship’.

    Oh, you mean like YOU do over in the Senate, Harry? Like Pelosi did in the House?

    This from a guy who was instrumental in the Democrats deliberate failure to pass a budget in the last 6 years despite the fact it’s a Constitutional requirement.

  10. Bob Roberts says:

    Skyfall says: December 27, 2012 at 10:12 pm
    In case you didn’t notice, this is the open thread.

    If you have a complaint, take it up with Mr. Blount.

  11. Bob Roberts says:

    Urging our courts to do what’s best… FOR MEXICO AND MEXICANS!

    The Mexican government has urged a U.S. court to stop Arizona from enforcing a minor section of the state’s 2010 immigration law that prohibits the harboring of illegal immigrants.

    The claim this part of the law harms diplomatic relations between the United States, undermines the U.S.’s ability to speak to a foreign country with one voice and encourages the marginalization of Mexicans and people who appear to be from Latin America.


  12. Bob Roberts says:

    Ghost of FA Hayek says: December 27, 2012 at 10:14 pm
    Yeah, just like the four scapegoats for Benghazi left government.

    And yet, they’re all still there, three of them in the same positions.

  13. Bob Roberts says:

    As a rule, I’ve been sticking in general to the open threads unless I have something I feel is related to the other threads, I respond to something someone said on the other threads, or there is some breaking news.

    Now as for “having a conversation with myself”, someone’s been smoking the wacky weed again.

    I do understand the confusion – if this WERE simply a thread about his death, not an open thread, I would have deserved chastising perhaps. And if you’re going to complain about me posting so much, go ahead and get in line and then first make sure you gripe at the others that do it too.

    Here’s a simple solution for you if you think I post so much – SCROLL PAST ALL MY POSTS.

    Works for some, why not for you?

  14. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    Have some respect.
    Sometimes I comment, but in this case I felt a big ol’ return salute in silence was most appropriate

  15. Barack Obama Sucks It says:

    Bob R,

    Brother, being on ship SUCKS and the squids work damn hard. Try being on a small ship in a rough sea and you’ll change your tune amigo.

    Now the US Chair Force on the other hand…

  16. facebkwallflower says:

    Thank BOB ROBERTS for all the links, Open Thread or Not; just make sure I see them! And thank you Mr. Blount for not putting a linkie limit on commenters

  17. Ummah Gummah says:


    R.I.P. General Norman Schwarzkopf. You showed how it’s done. Noone’s measured up to you since. Not even close.



  18. Ummah Gummah says:


    Since this is an open thread, I hope it won’t be disrespectful to Gen. Schwarzkopf if I mention something I’ve been noticing recently.

    I’ve been listening to an awful lot of Conservative radio lately, even more so than before that election which will live in Infamy on Nov. 6.

    What I’ve noticed is that almost all the ads on most of these stations are “public service” type ads “brought to you by whatever organization pushing that particular cause AND the Ad Council.

    I looked up the Ad Council:

    About Us
    Effecting Positive Social Change
    The Ad Council is a private, non-profit organization that marshals volunteer talent from the advertising and communications industries, the facilities of the media, and the resources of the business and non-profit communities to deliver critical messages to the American public. The Ad Council produces, distributes and promotes public service campaigns on behalf of non-profit organizations and government agencies in issue areas such as improving the quality of life for children, preventive health, education, community well being and strengthening families.

    Something smells fishy here. Why is an obviously liberal, Obama-affiliated organization buying up all the airtime on Conservative radio recently?

    Are they trying to corner the market and then suddenly drop the ads in hope of crushing these stations?

    What am I missing here? What I do know is that something about this doesn’t seem right.



  19. Bob Roberts says:

    Barack Obama Sucks It says: December 27, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    Very good points RE USN: They do have a miserable time when seas get rough and their jobs are often difficult and dangerous, plus my uncle gave some riveting accounts of being under attack by Japanese suicide pilots. Imagine being on the ships in battleship row when Pearl Harbor started.

    Likewise though, I’ve also heard accounts of being out on the flight line at various U.S. bases in SWA as the mortars started ranging in.

    In any case, I didn’t come back to mention that but thought it was worthwhile.

    What I came to say was this:

    Anyone care to guess what is the murder weapon of choice for the last five years that statistics were available?

    HINT: It’s not guns.

    facebkwallflower says: December 27, 2012 at 11:10 pm
    Thanks for the support – however, to those who have made complaints I tend to dominate the space sometimes, yes, I am aware there are some of you that feel that way and while it may not be obvious to you, I do try to throttle back sometimes.

    I have a lot to share and am trying to make sure a diverse range of topics are available to you all.

    Seriously, if you don’t like my posts, skip them. I won’t shed any tears. It’s that simple. I try to scan ALL of yours, even those of you who post a lot, even those of you who post a lot right after complaining I post too much.

    There are a lot of things I know you guys will want to see or share that I actually don’t post. Sure enough, within 24 hours one or the other of you, sometimes several of you, wind up posting it. Then, sometimes, if I wanted to give a certain treatment or angle that I felt you missed, or if I think it needs more emphasis, I’ll go ahead and post it too.

    I really have no intention of dominating this space and if I ever really start doing that I expect word from Mr. Blount himself telling me to tone it down – and there are a couple times I actually thought he might go ahead and do that, but he never did. Meanwhile, as I said, I do note those of you who complain about me even if it seems I don’t sometimes. My response to your input is generally based on whether or not your comments to me are reasonable and civil or somewhat rude and subjective.

  20. Bob Roberts says:

    Ummah Gummah says: December 28, 2012 at 12:11 am
    As you know, the left is fairly shrewd about following the dictates of their propagandists, not only by indoctrinating our youth by taking over all levels of education, but also indoctrinating us in general by taking over the media. No surprise they would infiltrate and dominate an agency such as the Ad Council.

    What a great way to spread propaganda!

  21. Bob Roberts says:

    BTW most of my relatives were Navy, though I did have an uncle in the army and another who did time in the army, navy and I believe also army air force.

    I myself nearly became a submariner. Then I was briefly in an army helicopter unit then, you guessed it.

    Chair force.

    Note I tried to avoid honking my own horn about how significant the USAF contribution to our capabilities is.

  22. Mr Evilwrench says:

    RIP Stormin Norman.

    Bob, keep us informed; I read a lot of your links.

    I had 1st generation relatives in the Navy, Marines, and Coast Guard from WWII and Korea. I won’t short any branch my full respect.

  23. johnnosk says:

    US teachers take up arms after mass shootings

    About time. There are many laws against firearms on the books in the US. The solution is not to disarm and disenfranchise the law abiding members of the public, but to counter the possible threat with reasonable precautions and safeguards.

    An example could be that the chance of the school burning down is small, but it has a sprinkler system installed and fire extinguishes inside the school.

    Many years ago in the drug wars of the 80’s, the police were carrying .38 S&W revolvers and shotguns while the drug dealers semiautomatic pistols and fully automatic sub-machine guns.

    Now the police carry semiautomatic pistols, have access to AR-15’s, wear body armor and are trained to use cover and limited fire when it is needed.

  24. Bid says:

    May a choir of a gels sing thee to thy eternal rest to that special place in heaven reserved for those that gave so much.

    Thank you for your service and thanks to your family for sharing you with us.

  25. Adam says:

    We lost a true American hero yesterday.
    I gave a report/ presentation on him when I was in high school.
    Rest in Peace, sir.

  26. Marknlutz says:

    When America was still America. RIP General

  27. Louisiana Steve says:

    Heaven will be a safer place.

  28. dan says:

    Stormin’ Norman is in heaven…and the Devil is shaking in his boots

    …and Bobert: you have my vote and thanks as does Dave for tolerating the both of us 🙂

  29. Jodie says:

    Bob Roberts,

    You are a great writer; you’re funny, intelligent, and you provide a lot of good information.

    My issue is that you post practically every story out there. Often, someone else has already posted it. Most of the time, I’ve already read it. So, when I read one of your clever lines and then get sucked into clicking on the link, I often realize that I’ve already read the story – it’s old news to me and I’ve just wasted my time waiting for the link to load up. That gets a little frustrating, then I do end up skipping your posts.

  30. Ummah Gummah says:

    Bob Roberts says:
    December 28, 2012 at 12:50 am
    Ummah Gummah says: December 28, 2012 at 12:11 am
    As you know, the left is fairly shrewd about following the dictates of their propagandists, not only by indoctrinating our youth by taking over all levels of education, but also indoctrinating us in general by taking over the media. No surprise they would infiltrate and dominate an agency such as the Ad Council.

    What a great way to spread propaganda!

    Actually that part I take for granted. Libs infest all government agencies, even under Republican administrations because somehow the Repubs seem unable to purge.

    What I mean to say was that since the election I’ve noticed an enormous increase in those Ad Council-sponsored spots on Conservative radio.

    I assume the Ad Council is spending tax money here.

    Are they trying to squeeze out private advertisers or are they trying to soften up the so-called “hard-core” Conservatives, who they presume listen to these stations, with liberal messaging?


  31. Jodie says:

    Ummah Gummah,

    I noticed a great increase in public service advertising as a result of the Stimulus funds. Through that, Obama gave a ton of money to those who would further his agenda. As a result, there is also a lot of public service advertising in favor of Mooshell’s school starvation programs and the CDC’s population control agenda.

  32. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    Reason TV nanny of the year
    One hails from Dave’s neck of the woods

  33. CGW409 says:

    One hard chargin bad ass!
    RIP General.

  34. Ghost of FA Hayek says:

    According to the moonbats at the Washington Post, we are all reaching for guns and mowing each other down
    Until you check out this chart
    TOTAL deaths by firearm is 10.1 per 100,000
    That’s TOTAL deaths
    Total violent crime offenses, by comparison is 403 per 100,000
    There seems to be a big demand for more self defense in those numbers

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