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Jun 19 2015

A Tale of Two Church Massacres

Contrasting two church massacres highlights the difference between a world where the right of self-defense is respected, and one in which moonbattery has prevailed so that only criminals have guns.

Here’s what happened when a screwed-up lunatic decided he would shoot up a church congregation in Colorado:

Jeanne Assam … said she “did not think for a minute to run away” when a gunman entered the New Life Church in Colorado Springs and started shooting.

There was applause as Assam spoke to a small crowd saying, “God guided me and protected me.”

New Life’s Senior Pastor Brady Boyd called Assam “a real hero” because the gunman, Matthew Murray, “had enough ammunition on him to cause a lot of damage.” …

“I saw him coming through the doors” and took cover, Assam said. “I came out of cover and identified myself and engaged him and took him down.” …

Murray was carrying two handguns, an assault rifle and over 1,000 rounds of ammunition, said Sgt. Jeff Johnson of the Colorado Springs Police Department. …

Boyd said Assam’s actions saved the lives of 50 to 100 people.

Murray was only able to kill two before he was stopped.

In contrast, nine were killed at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston on Wednesday. As Katie Pavlich notes, this church does not allow members to carry firearms.

Like the location of every mass shooting in the USA since at least 1950 with only two exceptions, the Charleston church is a gun-free zone.

Yet liberals in the government and media immediately pounced on this tragedy, exploiting it shamelessly to attack the Second Amendment. They openly hope to turn the entire country into a gun-free zone, where only criminals and authorities who can’t be everywhere would have guns.

It is hard to avoid the impression that Obama et al. have no interest in preventing these incidents; otherwise they would want people to be able to defend themselves.

Jeanne Assam
Jeanne Assam’s lifesaving gun would not have been allowed.

On tips from DinaRehn and Ken in Florida.



56 Responses to “A Tale of Two Church Massacres”

  1. SNuss says:

    The weapons used are not the problem, It is the lack of morality espoused by the Left, who deride traditional values, and celebrate deviancy as the new “normal”.

  2. SNuss says:

    The weapons used are not the problem, It is the lack of morality espoused by the Left, who deride traditional values, and celebrate deviancy as the new “normal”.

    Obama and his minions are, once again, using a tragedy to advance their Marxist/socialist agenda, before the bodies are even cold.

  3. Smith and Wesson and Me says:

    Boo ya! I’d like to know what she was carrying and how many rounds she squeezed off before wasting the dirtbag.

  4. Jim says:

    The majority of these mass shootings occur in “gun free zones”. There’s a lesson there, but I guess that there aren’t enough 2 X 4’s in the world to educate liberals of this little quirk.

  5. Smith and Wesson and Me says:

    Boo ya! I’d like to know what she was carrying and how many rounds she squeezed off before wasting the dirtbag.

  6. Jim says:

    The majority of these mass shootings occur in “gun free zones”. There’s a lesson there, but I guess that there aren’t enough 2 X 4’s in the world to educate liberals of this little quirk.

  7. Smith and Wesson and Me says:

    It would take multiple whacks on the head to get through to your typical libtard.

  8. Smith and Wesson and Me says:

    It would take multiple whacks on the head to get through to your typical libtard.

  9. Dan Northrup says:

    After looking at the failure of prohibition and the war on drugs, why would anybody think that a gun ban would work.

  10. Dan Northrup says:

    After looking at the failure of prohibition and the war on drugs, why would anybody think that a gun ban would work.

  11. MicahStone says:

    You choose: Leftist insanity or self-protection….

  12. MicahStone says:

    You choose: Leftist insanity or self-protection….

  13. MicahStone says:

    Be sure to ask for the SPECIAL boehner/mcconnell version !

  14. MicahStone says:

    Be sure to ask for the SPECIAL boehner/mcconnell version !

  15. ramrodd says:

    Assault weapons are automatic weapons and not AR15s

  16. ramrodd says:

    Assault weapons are automatic weapons and not AR15s

  17. Appalled By The World says:

    A ban on guns would never stop a truly determined lunatic from killing. The Charleston nut would have found another way, like planting a bomb in the church. Look at 9/11-those lunatics ingeniously used planes as missiles.By the Left’s logic planes should be banned, right?

  18. Appalled By The World says:

    A ban on guns would never stop a truly determined lunatic from killing. The Charleston nut would have found another way, like planting a bomb in the church. Look at 9/11-those lunatics ingeniously used planes as missiles.By the Left’s logic planes should be banned, right?

  19. KHarn says:

    “Assault weapon” is a POLITICAL term invented by anti-gun writer Josh Sugarman to (In his own words) “confuse the issue”. After decades of effort by police and politicians, NO ONE has been able to define “assault weapon” in technical terms.
    An “assault RIFLE” is a fully automatic firearm and has been classed in the United States as a MACHINEGUN since 1934.

  20. KHarn says:

    “Assault weapon” is a POLITICAL term invented by anti-gun writer Josh Sugarman to (In his own words) “confuse the issue”. After decades of effort by police and politicians, NO ONE has been able to define “assault weapon” in technical terms.
    An “assault RIFLE” is a fully automatic firearm and has been classed in the United States as a MACHINEGUN since 1934.

  21. DJ says:

    What pisses me off most about the POS that murdered nine innocent black Christians is he chose to murder the best of the best in the black community. It would make more sense if he went after the knuckle-dragging gang bangers in the hood. But he didn’t. Roof is a disgrace to the White race, pure and simple.

  22. DJ says:

    What pisses me off most about the POS that murdered nine innocent black Christians is he chose to murder the best of the best in the black community. It would make more sense if he went after the knuckle-dragging gang bangers in the hood. But he didn’t. Roof is a disgrace to the White race, pure and simple.

  23. Bodhisattva says:

    Before the bodies at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston were even cold, Hillary already had a statement out condemning the action as being caused by a right wing group and a hack video parodying Islam.

    “If people would stop irritating right wing gun loving members of the Religion of Peace with Mohammed parodies this sort of thing wouldn’t happen. Also if we could suspend the Second Amendment long enough to collect all guns it wouldn’t happen.”

    Several Radical Islam groups declared fatawas against Ms. Clinton for failing to follow the Prophet’s (Peace be Upon Him) name with the words “Peace be Upon Him” shortly thereafter.

    (/sarc)

  24. Bodhisattva says:

    Before the bodies at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston were even cold, Hillary already had a statement out condemning the action as being caused by a right wing group and a hack video parodying Islam.

    “If people would stop irritating right wing gun loving members of the Religion of Peace with Mohammed parodies this sort of thing wouldn’t happen. Also if we could suspend the Second Amendment long enough to collect all guns it wouldn’t happen.”

    Several Radical Islam groups declared fatawas against Ms. Clinton for failing to follow the Prophet’s (Peace be Upon Him) name with the words “Peace be Upon Him” shortly thereafter.

    (/sarc)

  25. Bodhisattva says:

    Sticks (sharpened or heavy branches formed into clubs) and stones (think of primitive tomahawks for instance – although they have both a stick and a stone) can kill. You can make a stone or bone knife. You cannot stop people from killing by taking away everything that can be used to kill.

  26. Bodhisattva says:

    Sticks (sharpened or heavy branches formed into clubs) and stones (think of primitive tomahawks for instance – although they have both a stick and a stone) can kill. You can make a stone or bone knife. You cannot stop people from killing by taking away everything that can be used to kill. What are you going to do – chop off everyone’s hands so they can’t choke someone? Chop off their feet so they can’t do a flying kick to the base of the skull?

  27. Son_of_Taz says:

    Key word=think. They don’t – period.

  28. Eddie_Valiant says:

    Key word=think. They don’t – period.

  29. Son_of_Taz says:

    So should cars. The death rate per 100,000 in vehicles is nearly 4 times that of homicide by firearm.

  30. Eddie_Valiant says:

    So should cars. The death rate per 100,000 in vehicles is nearly 4 times that of homicide by firearm.

  31. Disgusted says:

    I posted some comments on this topic in the Disqus thread at xojane.com.  Predictably, those comments were all censored (as were some of the replies; I particularly liked the one that said I should be ass-raped by a bunch of Black men as it shows the depravity of the ones we’re up against). I reproduce them here, in chronological order:

    To Straightshooter:

    Why won’t white people just leave us alone?

    Why won’t you Black people leave US alone?! Why don’t you just follow Marcus Garvey back to Africa?

    I’m serious. You turn Detroit, Newark, Wilmington, Cleveland, Detroit, Gary and a host of other once-thriving cities into hell-holes by ethnically cleansing the White people from them, then you go follow the Whites because “look at the conditions we live in”. You MADE those conditions. If you don’t like them, learn to do better; you should be forbidden to move where you’re not wanted. Shelley vs. Kraemer was wrong, wrong, wrong!

    To aliencat:

    Dude, there was just a horrific crime, you think everyone’s feelings are going to be rational right now?

    Oh, “there was just a horrific crime”. What do you call the Knoxville Atrocity, then? The point-blank shooting-in-the-head by Black thugs of Antonio Angel Santiago, age 13 months? The mass murder of White commuters on the Long Island Railroad by (Black Jamaican illegal immigrant) Colin Ferguson?

    I don’t care. Blacks have forfeited any claim to White sympathy and goodwill. White people owe you nothing.

    I expect this comment to be censored just like the now-missing ones that you obviously didn’t like. I don’t care.

    to JRC:

    It’s horrible that an entire race of people has been subjugated to the point where black people feel the need to be scared of white people lording their privilege over others, be it in the form of job discrimination

    Job discrimination? Job discrimination?! You delusional git, Black people are discriminated FOR in almost every job category in the USA! Blacks are MASSIVELY over-represented in government jobs despite their equally-massive under-competence! Blacks are under 13% of the US population but have 20% of the jobs in the US Postal Service, to give just one example.

    or, in the absolute worst of circumstances, heinous murder.

    Oh, riiiight. A fed-up “youth” (which is what a Black shooter of age 21 would be called) kills 9 including a radical anti-White politician and that’s “heinous murder”, while 447 Black-on White murders vs. just 218 White-on-Black in 2010 is, to you, a non-issue.

    It’s obvious that you left a word out of your slogan. To you, ONLY Black lives matter… and they only matter if a White is involved. Black-on-Black killings are just part of life in da hood, right? Right. </sarcasm>

    White people in America owe you nothing. As a Northerner, I hever had any debt and my family fought to free your sorry asses anyway. You repaid us by destroying the homes and cities we built. I owe you nothing. Take your Section 8 voucher and see what it will get in Liberia.

    to Guest:

    So here’s to hoping that you find yourself raped in the ass by a bunch of black men. Because that is what you are obviously afraid or and, frankly, you fucking deserve it.

    Your response to someone who wants nothing at all to do with you because of your atrocious behavior is that he should be “raped in the ass by a bunch of black men” because “you fucking deserve it”.

    That is exactly the kind of attitude and atrocious behavior which makes White people want nothing to do with you. In other words, YOU deserve the ostracism that Whites would give you were they not legally forbidden to do so (and don’t expect that legal bar to last much longer). That is why I am Disgusted… with you.

    to Guest:

    Let them wave their dicks. I’ll wave my 12-gauge. We’ll see who wins.

    to Kate:

    Those statistics are intentionally misleading, designed to corroborate the idea that Black people are inherently more violent.

    Then why are there almost as many Black-on-Black murders as White-on-White, despite Whites being about 5x as much of the US population as Blacks?

    You are delusional. Go read The Color of Crime, despite it telling a story you do not want to hear. Open your eyes to the un-varnished, Politically Incorrect truth.

    ETA: Black people have every right to fear for their safety in white supremacist ruled America right now.

    Horsefeathers. The American ruling class these days is avowedly Black supremacist, which is why the Black Philadelphia voter-intimidators in 2008 had an open-and-shut case against them dismissed by Eric Holder. The Black supremacists are why George Zimmerman was persecuted, and both Darren Wilson and Eric Casebolt are out of work. Black supremacists are why Black gangs rule Baltimore while police officers are jailed for doing their jobs arresting heroin dealers.

    Black people cannot look at reality and see it for what it is if it looks bad for Black people… which it always does. Being unable to correctly interpret obvious realities is one of the definitions of insanity. Insane people are not traditionally allowed to run free in Western society. This is why Black people cannot and should not be “integrated”. They cannot fit in, and don’t want to. Africa is where they belong.

    to Guest:

    It’s “barbed wire”, which you would know if you had any subject-matter knowledge. This is not something I expect any Blacks to have. I expect you to repeat phrases as incantations which you believe have magical power, and I am rarely wrong.

    Barbed wire was invented as a cheap means of confining cattle to a fenced area. Electric fences, even more so. I would be more than happy to confine you and your co-racialists behind wire charged to 7200 volts. That would suffice to keep you and your behavior out of my hair, and no size of dick would help you escape.

  32. Disgusted says:

    I posted some comments on this topic in the Disqus thread at xojane.com.  Predictably, those comments were all censored (as were some of the replies; I particularly liked the one that said I should be ass-raped by a bunch of Black men as it shows the depravity of the ones we’re up against). I reproduce them here, in chronological order:

    To Straightshooter:

    Why won’t white people just leave us alone?

    Why won’t you Black people leave US alone?! Why don’t you just follow Marcus Garvey back to Africa?

    I’m serious. You turn Detroit, Newark, Wilmington, Cleveland, Detroit, Gary and a host of other once-thriving cities into hell-holes by ethnically cleansing the White people from them, then you go follow the Whites because “look at the conditions we live in”. You MADE those conditions. If you don’t like them, learn to do better; you should be forbidden to move where you’re not wanted. Shelley vs. Kraemer was wrong, wrong, wrong!

    To aliencat:

    Dude, there was just a horrific crime, you think everyone’s feelings are going to be rational right now?

    Oh, “there was just a horrific crime”. What do you call the Knoxville Atrocity, then? The point-blank shooting-in-the-head by Black thugs of Antonio Angel Santiago, age 13 months? The mass murder of White commuters on the Long Island Railroad by (Black Jamaican illegal immigrant) Colin Ferguson?

    I don’t care. Blacks have forfeited any claim to White sympathy and goodwill. White people owe you nothing.

    I expect this comment to be censored just like the now-missing ones that you obviously didn’t like. I don’t care.

    to JRC:

    It’s horrible that an entire race of people has been subjugated to the point where black people feel the need to be scared of white people lording their privilege over others, be it in the form of job discrimination

    Job discrimination? Job discrimination?! You delusional git, Black people are discriminated FOR in almost every job category in the USA! Blacks are MASSIVELY over-represented in government jobs despite their equally-massive under-competence! Blacks are under 13% of the US population but have 20% of the jobs in the US Postal Service, to give just one example.

    or, in the absolute worst of circumstances, heinous murder.

    Oh, riiiight. A fed-up “youth” (which is what a Black shooter of age 21 would be called) kills 9 including a radical anti-White politician and that’s “heinous murder”, while 447 Black-on White murders vs. just 218 White-on-Black in 2010 is, to you, a non-issue.

    It’s obvious that you left a word out of your slogan. To you, ONLY Black lives matter… and they only matter if a White is involved. Black-on-Black killings are just part of life in da hood, right? Right. </sarcasm>

    White people in America owe you nothing. As a Northerner, I hever had any debt and my family fought to free your sorry asses anyway. You repaid us by destroying the homes and cities we built. I owe you nothing. Take your Section 8 voucher and see what it will get in Liberia.

    to Guest:

    So here’s to hoping that you find yourself raped in the ass by a bunch of black men. Because that is what you are obviously afraid or and, frankly, you fucking deserve it.

    Your response to someone who wants nothing at all to do with you because of your atrocious behavior is that he should be “raped in the ass by a bunch of black men” because “you fucking deserve it”.

    That is exactly the kind of attitude and atrocious behavior which makes White people want nothing to do with you. In other words, YOU deserve the ostracism that Whites would give you were they not legally forbidden to do so (and don’t expect that legal bar to last much longer). That is why I am Disgusted… with you.

    to Guest:

    Let them wave their dicks. I’ll wave my 12-gauge. We’ll see who wins.

    to Kate:

    Those statistics are intentionally misleading, designed to corroborate the idea that Black people are inherently more violent.

    Then why are there almost as many Black-on-Black murders as White-on-White, despite Whites being about 5x as much of the US population as Blacks?

    You are delusional. Go read The Color of Crime, despite it telling a story you do not want to hear. Open your eyes to the un-varnished, Politically Incorrect truth.

    ETA: Black people have every right to fear for their safety in white supremacist ruled America right now.

    Horsefeathers. The American ruling class these days is avowedly Black supremacist, which is why the Black Philadelphia voter-intimidators in 2008 had an open-and-shut case against them dismissed by Eric Holder. The Black supremacists are why George Zimmerman was persecuted, and both Darren Wilson and Eric Casebolt are out of work. Black supremacists are why Black gangs rule Baltimore while police officers are jailed for doing their jobs arresting heroin dealers.

    Black people cannot look at reality and see it for what it is if it looks bad for Black people… which it always does. Being unable to correctly interpret obvious realities is one of the definitions of insanity. Insane people are not traditionally allowed to run free in Western society. This is why Black people cannot and should not be “integrated”. They cannot fit in, and don’t want to. Africa is where they belong.

    to Guest:

    It’s “barbed wire”, which you would know if you had any subject-matter knowledge. This is not something I expect any Blacks to have. I expect you to repeat phrases as incantations which you believe have magical power, and I am rarely wrong.

    Barbed wire was invented as a cheap means of confining cattle to a fenced area. Electric fences, even more so. I would be more than happy to confine you and your co-racialists behind wire charged to 7200 volts. That would suffice to keep you and your behavior out of my hair, and no size of dick would help you escape.

  33. HBH says:

    You are garbage.

  34. HBH says:

    I have never heard of this incident before. This makes me think that maybe the media is lying to us by omitting evidence.

  35. Handsome Jack says:

    You are garbage.

  36. Handsome Jack says:

    I have never heard of this incident before. This makes me think that maybe the media is lying to us by omitting evidence.

  37. HBH says:

    Exactly the Boston marathon bombing is perfect evidence of that.

  38. Handsome Jack says:

    Exactly the Boston marathon bombing is perfect evidence of that.

  39. HBH says:

    “Assault weapon” predates the gun debate. It a generic term that is misused by the left.

  40. Handsome Jack says:

    “Assault weapon” predates the gun debate. It a generic term that is misused by the left.

  41. KHarn says:

    It’s also misused by some people who should know better. Sugarman invented the term in the ’80’s as the new “Saturday night special”.

  42. KHarn says:

    It’s also misused by some people who should know better. Sugarman invented the term in the ’80’s as the new “Saturday night special”.

  43. HBH says:

    This is why liberal gun control will never happen. Not to mention that gun ownership is a main pillar in american culture. Liberals might as well try to convince the US to rejoin Great Britain.

  44. Handsome Jack says:

    This is why liberal gun control will never happen. Not to mention that gun ownership is a main pillar in american culture. Liberals might as well try to convince the US to rejoin Great Britain.

  45. DJ says:

    Why, because I suggested he shoot gangbangers instead of innocent Christians? Had he shoot 9 gangbangers, that would surely have saved at least 100 black lives that would have otherwise been the victims of said gangbangers.
    So what’s your problem…. don’t black lives matter to you?
    BTW, you calling me garbage reeeeeeeeally hurt me. LOL!

  46. DJ says:

    Why, because I suggested he shoot gangbangers instead of innocent Christians? Had he shoot 9 gangbangers, that would surely have saved at least 100 black lives that would have otherwise been the victims of said gangbangers.
    So what’s your problem…. don’t black lives matter to you?
    BTW, you calling me garbage reeeeeeeeally hurt me. LOL!

  47. DJ says:

    Good job, D. You won the fight by unanimous decision.

  48. DJ says:

    Good job, D. You won the fight by unanimous decision.

  49. MicahStone says:

    “A Tale of Two Church Massacres”

    —and A Tales of Two Cities…..

  50. MicahStone says:

    “A Tale of Two Church Massacres”

    —and A Tales of Two Cities…..

  51. […] New Life Church in Colorado Springs isn’t the only site of a massacre that it is instructive to compare to […]


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