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Oct 30 2016

Democrats Should Tell Hillary to Step Down

By not rejecting Donald Trump, the Republican Party has renounced its claim to morality, decency, and self-respect. If the GOP dies this year, it won’t be Trump who killed it, but the cowardly, self-interested apparatchiks who played along, from Reince Priebus to Rush Limbaugh. But even if Democrats have become known for lower standards regarding morality and legality, the same goes for them. Found in Hillary’s hometown paper:

It’s obvious the American political system is breaking down. It’s been crumbling for some time now, and the establishment elite know it and they’re properly frightened. Donald Trump, the vulgarian at their gates, is a symptom, not a cause. Hillary Clinton and husband Bill are both cause and effect.

FBI director James Comey’s announcement about the renewed Clinton email investigation is the bombshell in the presidential campaign. That he announced this so close to Election Day should tell every thinking person that what the FBI is looking at is extremely serious.

We won’t know the full details until after the election, but we do know that Hillary has already been proven unfit for the presidency, and that worse revelations will surely follow, probably including illegal specifics regarding the influence peddling that made her so rich.

The best thing would be for Democrats to ask her to step down now. It would be the most responsible thing to do, if the nation were more important to them than power. And the American news media — fairly or not firmly identified in the public mind as Mrs. Clinton’s political action committee — should begin demanding it.

But if Republicans wouldn’t try to stop Trump even after he explicitly asserted that he would issue illegal orders to murder innocent people, what are the odds that Democrats will stop Hillary? Character is in short supply on both sides.

Both parties have succumbed to corruption. They have allowed their vile nominees to suck them down a vortex into hell.

Where a Hillary/Trump vote takes your soul.

On a tip from Torcer.

50 Responses to “Democrats Should Tell Hillary to Step Down”

  1. Bob Elfers says:

    I am sympathetic having voted third party twice before. Once because “Read my lips” and the other because of NAFTA. Globalist GHWB and squishy Dole were in retrospect preferable to the Clinton machine and I have come to regret the decision. I supported Walker early on and Ted later, but unfortunately this is what it is. I am hoping that if Trump is elected he will follow through on his stated principles (however they conflict with history) and build a respectable legacy. We need pundits to hold his feet to the flames without destroying legitimacy out of hand. When he (hopefully) governs as proclaimed, we will need to ride herd on congress to follow through on more nationalist legislation instead of following the path of least resistance and taking cues from globalists.

    I anticipated the reform of the party would be from the ground up. Chaos management will be required from the (hopefully) upcoming Trump administration.

  2. Not sure I understand how this stuff works, but once Hillary is elected president can she pardon herself? Maybe we shouldn’t wait to find out…

  3. Bob Elfers says:

    She needs to win in order to influence the investigation. The truth will out no matter what, but she would be occupied defending herself during her term rather than leading our nation. The resulting tumult will leave us weaker and more divided than ever. Expect anything at this point. She is cornered.

  4. JeffersonSpinningInGrave says:

    This is a key test for the USA. I can understand why some people are not be comfortable voting for Trump. But if we get a majority of people voting for Hillary, showing they are willing to tolerate what she is (either through ignorance or just a lack of critical standards), we are probably finished as a nation and our decline will accelerate. It will mean that the rot has spread to too much of the body, like end-stage cancer.

  5. Mr. Freemarket says:

    The fact that a corrupt person and an immoral person are out choices for president tells you the current status of our constitutional republic.

  6. Veritas100 says:

    Clinton is both corrupt and immoral and if elected will have the reprehensible Bill Clinton wandering around with nothing to do. I’ll take my chances with Trump.

  7. Veritas100 says:

    The Constitution says that the president “shall have the power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.”

    Quite unprecedented though, and who knows if this applies to a crime committed before being elected.

    One thing I believe, is that if Clinton is elected – she’ll be in for 4 years of hell – if she lasts that long.

  8. Agrippa says:

    Bob: At least Trumpy could be impeached (and the Repubes in Congress would not hesitate to screw him over any way they can), but the Beast will never be so treated (the cowards are afraid of their own shadows; first woman (sorta) President, and all that). If she gets in, it’ll be open season on America — grab whatever you can and screw everybody else — we’d be headed straight to Hell with no way to get off the down elevator with a broken cable.
    Everybody hold your nose and vote for the Trumpster, as the alternative is a super-criminal in total charge.

  9. Agrippa says:

    Too late now. The DemonRats have hitched their wagon to this “star,” and the fact she’s going supernova makes no difference at this point. Their strategy (if you can call it that) now is get her into office, look for her to stroke out in a month or two, and they’ll have that idiot Kaine, a complete moron if there ever was one (sorry, Joe!), to take over; he will be easy to control from Reid and Pelosi’s offices (the guy has all the character of a cockroach, and the brain-power to match).

  10. Torcer says:

    RCP: Trump’s average in the four-way race now the highest it’s been all year
    His previous best, the day of the first presidential debate, was 41.5 percent. His crapola performance that night plus a heap of scandal in the following weeks kept him durably below that number for a solid month — until today, when he’s up to 41.6 percent and seemingly still rising. In any other year, for any other major-party nominee, topping out at 42 percent would be known in professional parlance as “hot garbage” but Trump has the good fortune to be running against a candidate who is herself terrible. Hillary briefly cracked 46 percent two weeks ago after the “Access Hollywood” tape surfaced but she’s back to 45 percent now, several points higher than she’s been for most of the race but not enough to make Democrats comfortable. With her lead down to 3.4 points, I think this Harry Enten tweet perfectly captures the suspicion gnawing at the pros right now:

    (((Harry Enten)))
    The key ? next few days isn’t whether Trump closes the polling gap. It’s whether he can get within 3 where a polling error could save him.

  11. SLCain says:

    “By not rejecting Donald Trump, the Republican Party has renounced its claim to morality, decency, and self-respect.”

    Would the Republican Party have somehow maintained it’s claim on “morality, decency, and self-respect” if had nominated Jeb Bush, a bought-and-paid-for stooge of wealthy interests (many of them the same people who gave money to Hillary) who doesn’t even seem to like Americans, but prefers Mexicans? If they had nominated creepy Canadian Ted Cruz? Is it more moral, decent, and self-respecting to vote for the former CIA and Goldman-Sachs stooge (and, possibly, closeted homosexual) Evan McMullin – who is sponsored by Bill Kristol and Mitt Romney for the purpose of throwing the election to Hillary? Is that the moral choice?

  12. Mr. Freemarket says:

    I agree that Trump is the better choice. Doesn’t mean that Trump is moral.

  13. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Scott Walker was a potential conservative candidate. So was Rand Paul.

    Instead we have a candidate who is far less conservative than Mitt Romney. And likely the easiest candidate for Hillary to beat.

  14. SLCain says:

    Scott Walker was every bit as committed to amnesty and open borders as Romney, McCain, Bush, or – for that matter – Hillary.

    Paul is largely a libertarian, and foolishly squandered his campaign trying to appeal to blacks who were never going to vote for him anyway.

    “And likely the easiest candidate for Hillary to beat.”

    Far from it. Do you think Jeb Bush would have been more difficult to beat?

    The fact is, a lot of conservatives are fed up with a Republican party establishment that advocates nothing except free-trade and foreign wars – that are, essentially, little different than “New Democrats” like the Clintons. That’s why they jettisoned everyone but Trump. You have a problem with Trump? Then you have a problem with about 50% of Republican voters. Maybe you should find a new party.

  15. Bob Elfers says:

    Sorta agree. But her unlike-ability will make her more vulnerable than the current resident. Yea- should stock up a bit. Not looking good. There may be tribal warfare no matter who wins.

  16. TrojanMan says:

    Or for that matter giving your consent by means of a vote.

  17. Fiberal says:

    Renounced morality? Apparently, you wouldn’t know it.

    As Trump battles the media, liberals, foreign money, never-trumpers and his unforced errors, the lack of cohesiveness of republicans/conservatives will likely allow Cowliary to slither into the oval office as Commander-In-Chief, to promptly pardon herself and others.

    Severe damage has been done to Trump by the never-Trumpers for the sustenation of the criminal enterprise run by the Clintons. Who could call that a moral position?

    The total abandonment of morality comes in no small part from the inability of the never-trumpers to properly define the morality of their actions. When their “principles” could not form a comprehensive theory that could withstand serious critical appraisal in light of the alternative, they simply stuck to their Trump attacks out of distain, an inability to reverse themselves intellectually and arrogance. Never mind that they could never articulate how any of their chosen candidates could possibly have gotten as far as Trump at this point. Moreover, never mind that they have not properly articulated how close Trump’s policy prescriptions may be to conservative positions in contrast to the old saws screeched repeatedly by Cowliary.

    One of the more ludicrous never-trump posters on this site recently admitted that he understood from the beginning that his actions to put Cowliary in the WH would occur by his efforts to degrade Trump. In other words, Trump could not had said anything or done anything that could persuade the never-thinkers. It does not even occur to them that even a liberal might have had enough of what has transpired with BO over the last 8 years.

    The collectivist liberals that have enacted practically every aspect of the communist manifesto in the U.S., easily walked away from morality because they had no claim to it. The course of destruction fomented by the collectivist never-trumpers gives them no more of a claim.

  18. Mr. Freemarket says:

    It would have been a lot better if Trump hadn’t penned this editorial back in 2013.

    As to what we have been trying to conserve, we have been trying to conserve the constitution….sadly with little success.

  19. 762x51 says:

    As you have no principles of your own, other than haughty elitist arrogance, you are incapable of understanding why anyone would refuse to support your cult leader. Although, watching you wrap yourself in smug contemptuousness while explaining to everyone else how stupid they are for having principles is mildly amusing, listening to Fibtard, Lord of the Trumpanzees railing about how those who refused to join in your mistake are responsible for it is laugh out loud funny.

    As a true Progressive, you are incapable of taking responsibility for the collassal mistake you have made and never will. #neverresponsiblefortrump.

    Hey Fibtard, next election, if there ever is one, you vermin should try running your Progressive candidate in the Democrat side of the uni-party, they get better reception of your fascist BS over there, LMAO!

  20. SLCain says:

    “Whatever it is, they have to come up with something they can pretend is a big deal. Maybe several more fake nazis at his rallies.”

    Really? What have Jeb Bush or Chris Christie ever done to defend the Constitution?

    Anyway, your piece of paper won’t save you. Google the phrase “At Least I Still Have the Consitution” to see what’s in your future.

    You’re acting like you still have a country. You don’t. The country you think you have is dead.

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  22. Mr. Freemarket says:

    ” What have Jeb Bush or Chris Christie ever done to defend the Constitution?”

    This is called a “Straw Man” argument. Where have I ever suggested supporting either of these guys?

    “Anyway, your piece of paper won’t save you.”

    Nope. That is what firearms are for.

    ” The country you think you have is dead.”
    Yes and no. America is foremost an idea, not a location. America lives in the hearts and minds of those who embrace that idea.

  23. Fiberal says:

    Too old, stupid and effeminate to address even a single issue.

    That’s what I’d expect from an obscene, senile, midget hairdresser trying to get into the military at 76.

    C’mon man. That post was for adults.

    Nothing there was written about never-trumpers with you even remotely in mind. Even they can not sink that low.

    Now go practice with your comb.

  24. All American Male says:

    Amusing that you would think any other GOP candidate could have withstood the Clinton Attack Machine better than the egotistical, blowhard Trump. He’s the only one with enough chutzpah to withstand this grind. Jeb!, Marco, and Carly would’ve folded like a card table.

  25. 762x51 says:

    Better as in we will be eating a sh!t sandwich and our choice is creamy or chunky.

  26. S_O_T_A says:

    “He’s the only one with enough chutzpah to withstand this grind.”

    ROFL. Do you really think he is withstanding it? C’mon!

  27. SLCain says:

    “This is called a “Straw Man” argument. Where have I ever suggested supporting either of these guys?”

    No, it is a real argument. If one of them had been the nominee, you would be voting for him.

    “Yes and no. America is foremost an idea, not a location. America lives in the hearts and minds of those who embrace that idea.”

    Ah, the old cuckservative “proposition nation” notion. What a ridiculous load of horseshit. A real nation is derived from an actual people who share a common heritage. What you describe is just a place where a bunch of people happen to be – an airport or a shopping mall.

  28. Mr. Freemarket says:

    ” If one of them had been the nominee, you would be voting for him.”

    You are entitled to your opinion. However, many times I have said “no more RINOs.” Jeb is a RINO. Christie is a RINO. And that’s the major problem I have with Trump. He, too, is a RINO.

    ” A real nation is derived from an actual people who share a common heritage. ”
    America is a melting pot. It has always been a melting pot. It is not a nation of those with a common heritage. During the early founding of our nation, German was as likely to be our common language as English.

    Call me names if you wish. It only indicates the poverty of your ideas.

  29. SLCain says:

    The term “RINO” itself betrays your (seemingly) vast ignorance. “Republican” is not synonmous with “Conservative”. Indeed, for most of it’s history the Republican party was not conservative – just as it mostly is not today.

    “America is a melting pot. It has always been a melting pot. It is not a nation of those with a common heritage.”

    That is twaddle, and you are evidently a fool. Are you sixteen, or something? You sound like the sort of ignorant buffoon who calls in to the Rush Limbaugh show, or who hangs on every word uttered by Glenn Beck.

    “During the early founding of our nation, German was as likely to be our common language as English.”

    That is a ridiculous and ahistorical assertion, completely unfounded in any fact, and often made by ignorant people such as you. Offer some proof for that. You can’t.

    “It only indicates the poverty of your ideas.”

    Said by the man who is pumping the same old tired line the Republican party has been pushing since 1980.

    You are a clown. Perhaps you should vote for Bill Kristol’s butt-boy, Egg McMuffin.

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