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Aug 30 2016

Minimum Wage Hike Leads to Massive Loss of Restaurant Jobs in D.C.

Restaurant workers in the District of Corruption have been treated to an entry level course in fundamental economics:

The minimum wage hike in Washington, D.C, is already devastating employment in the region and is linked to the largest loss of restaurant jobs in the last 15 years.

Officials raised the minimum wage in July of 2015 to $10.50 per hour, up from $8.25 since 2014. The Employment Policies Institute revealed in a May report that 48 percent of District businesses had already reduced staff or cut hours to deal with the increases since 2014. In the first six months of 2016, the restaurant industry in D.C. lost roughly 1,400 jobs, a historic drop for a six-month period, according to the American Enterprise Institute (AEI).

It could be that the city’s loss is suburbia’s gain:

The restaurant industry in the suburbs outside D.C. grew by 2,900 jobs over the same period.

Despite the easily predictable destructive effect of raising the minimum wage,

The minimum wage rose again in the District July 1 to $11.50 per hour, and will continue to rise over the next four years to $15 per hour by 2020.

By then, mobs of underachievers will be demanding $20/hour for unskilled work that is worth less than half that, and that in many cases can be done more efficiently by machine. The collectivist demagogues in charge will be happy to comply, knowing that the more people who get laid off, and the more who are never able to get onto the first rung on the economic ladder, the more votes there will be for the party of coercive wealth redistribution — at least until we get to the point where there is no more wealth to redistribute.

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The geniuses driving economic policy.

On a tip from Torcer.



99 Responses to “Minimum Wage Hike Leads to Massive Loss of Restaurant Jobs in D.C.”

  1. Silence Dogood says:

    it’s the very same thing that happened in Seattle. These people just don’t think.

  2. Pegon Zellschmidt says:

    McDonald’s has been protected by franchise laws where each franchise is considered, ostensibly, a separate company, making it very difficult for Democrat brownshirts to pressure an entire company. However,

    A federal judge just ruled that McDonald’s may be liable in a franchisee’s wage theft case. Judge Richard Seeborg, an Obama appointee to the bench, said that the lawsuit against McDonald’s corporation can proceed under the “ostensible agency theory.”

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/19/mcdonalds-found-likely-liable-for-franchise-theft-under-obscure-theory/#ixzz4IozcZAZM

  3. If only people would have warned them . . .

  4. Cruz Control says:

    But let’s make sure everything we do in our power results in Hillary being elected. We look forward to eight more years of this crap!

  5. CTsOpinion says:

    This conservative is not so quick to condemn a significant rise in the minimum wage. Try and find a job today that is not part time with no benefits at one or two dollars above minimum if you’re lucky.

    Take inflation into account and look at the current minimum wage compared to the minimum wage of $1.25/hr introduced in 1967. I believe the current minimum wage is equivalently less with less buying power.

    Low wages are not just in the restaurant industry they are throughout retail where employers have been hiring at a lower pay rate than several years ago.

  6. KirklesWorth says:

    This isn’t about “buying power”…this is about capitalism and competition. If two people go into a job interview and one is willing to work for less, why should the employer be forced to pay more than the market wage? Is it better to employ two low-paid employees or one higher-paid employee?

  7. Cruz Control says:

    “Conservative” my ass. A Cuck for sure and likely a #NeverTrumpCuck.

  8. tfhr says:

    The restaurant industry is looking like it’s in for rough times as people are finding ways to spend less – it is a great concern for the industry as a whole – and DC government will find out why their decisions to raise the minimum wage will result in less revenue for the city across the board.

    Then again, DC’s elected brain trust doesn’t care or they wouldn’t have done the same thing to Walmart when that company agreed to build in the District but subsequently bailed out after they saw the numbers turn against their business. Liberals hate Walmart and don’t care that it provides lower income customers a lot of options that are not available to most of DC’s residents within the District. These are the same liberals that will be eating at DC’s expensive restaurants and will bitch about higher costs and probably end up shorting the wait staff.

  9. Torcer says:

    There is one group of people really looking forward to these price hikes in wages – engineers and technicians who design, built and maintain the automation that make the human wage earners redundant.

  10. Torcer says:

    How many candidates are on the ballot in November?

  11. TED says:

    EVERY LOST JOB IS A VOTE FOR THEM. http://i.imgur.com/KxLoUez.jpg

  12. TrojanMan says:

    Two things: first i think Torcer was looking for a number such as 4. Second no conservative will vote for the Johnson because he is an open borders, pro-abort, pot smoking, BAKE THAT CAKE, progressive. His VP pick is hostile to 2A. There is noting libertarian about the johnson.

  13. Torcer says:

    Answer the question please…

  14. KirklesWorth says:

    You mean “Answer the question please…” like you don’t do:

    Did you ever answer why you suggest three times as many Trump articles as Hillary? Are you three times as determined to make Trump lose so that we get Hillary? http://moonbattery.com/?p=75442#comment-2858234715

  15. Torcer says:

    BTW, don’t bother with red herring FALSEHOODS since I have no control on which articles are posted here.

    Not to mention the fact that many are contrary to Comrade Clinton’s Pro-oppressive agenda. But why let FACTS get in the way of a good LIE?

  16. seaoh says:

    My favorite video explaining minimum wage to low info voters

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u7s-vRux2g

  17. Rex Kwon Do says:

    So, answer this question: how will voting some obscure loser third party or not voting at all keep Hillary out of the White House?

  18. KirklesWorth says:

    You are operating under the misconception that so-called “conservatives” don’t want Hillary in the White House – which isn’t always the case. Some are actively trying to get Hillary elected to “ignite” their agenda which could be “educating”, “punishing”, “waking up”, “revolution”, “civil war”, “convention of states”, etc.. That is why they are here trying to turn Trump supporters apathetic (or worse).

  19. TrojanMan says:

    The time to keep Hillary out of the white house has passed. That time passed with the nomination of Trump. He is already abandoning his promises of border security, keeping out muslims, etc. So my answer to you is that it does not matter whom you or I vote for, Hitlery has already won. I do not vote progressive or prog(R)essive. Herr Trump is a progressive.

    A question for you. At what point if any will you realize that Trump is a lying progressive?

  20. KirklesWorth says:

    Uh huh.

  21. TrojanMan says:

    “It usually just ends up sending Trump supporters to non-moonbat sites” If you are still here we are obviously not trying hard enough huh?

  22. KirklesWorth says:

    Apropos comment for a faux conservative. Why don’t you try defending the rights and liberties Hillary would stamp out rather than attacking the patriots trying to defeat her? That was a rhetorical question, as you want Hillary to win.

  23. TrojanMan says:

    “That was a rhetorical question, as you want Hillary to win.”

    Reading comprehension issues again. Write this down in your log:

    I do not vote Progressive or Prog(R)essive.

    Just because Trump has a (R) by his name does not make him a conservative or even a republican. If you do not promote liberty i.e. (Trump, Clinton, et al) than you will not get my vote.

    So in your mind being a conservative is going along with the crowd over the bridge to your death? No thanks

  24. TrojanMan says:

    Cool graphic… and politicians never lie to get your vote or money.

  25. KirklesWorth says:

    How is my “reading comprehension” on this: “The GOP needs to die because it is now a progressive party just a tad right of the democrat party.” http://moonbattery.com/?p=75607#comment-2867525328

    How about “That’s too late. She was elected the moment Trump won the nomination which is why I have always told you that it does not matter who you vote for.” http://moonbattery.com/?p=75157#comment-2835984174

    You would not do everything in your power to defeat Hillary – therefore, I call you integrity and morality into question.

  26. KirklesWorth says:

    That’s it? You go on pure speculation yet you call into question the data gathered that shows the differences between the candidates? Where is your data to back up what you assert?

  27. TrojanMan says:

    Where is your data to backup what Trump asserts? He has never held public office and past actions have shown him time and time again he gives support to Progressive causes and candidates. But yet i am magically just supposed to believe him? No. He is a Clinton supporting progressive.

    He has already “pivotted” on immigration. There is no guarantees he will keep his word on anything because it is just that… his empty words.

    Herr Trump has already sold you out.

  28. Cruz Control says:

    So move to Canada. Pathetic loser.

  29. TrojanMan says:

    Thats not reading comprehension thats called CTLR+C and CTLR+V.

    I stand by what i said. Yes the GOP is dead and full of progressives. Yes Hillary was elected the moment Trump was nominated.

    “You would not do everything in your power to defeat Hillary” Have you given your 100% to defeating Hitlery? I would wager no.

    ” I call you integrity and morality into question.” Call what you like at least i am not voting progressive like yourself.

  30. KirklesWorth says:

    I just posted it. Did you miss it? I don’t see how you could…

    So, you wish to put one issue in question – what about the dozens more? The only ones selling us out are the so-called “conservatives” who’s my-way-or-the-highway temper tantrum is putting everybody’s rights and liberties at risk.

  31. TrojanMan says:

    Your “proof” is a pic of what Trump says he supports? And you believe it lock stock and barrel? Trump will do plenty himself to putting “everybody’s rights and liberties at risk.”

  32. TrojanMan says:

    So you are ok with your boy lying and selling you out? Figures

  33. KirklesWorth says:

    How dare you question my intentions on defeating Hillary you disingenuous faux conservative – attacking the republican candidate to get the progressive-liberal-socialist criminal elected. Just carry on your “to hell with you all” approach to the country while we patriots try to defeat Hillary.

  34. TrojanMan says:

    “How dare you question my intentions on defeating Hillary ” I do now what?

  35. Cruz Control says:

    Get on your knees now and get used to it for the next eight years. Better yet, stock up on KY as you are going to take it up the ass from your new Democrat rulers. I suspect you may enjoy it.

  36. KirklesWorth says:

    Nothing. I let your faux-conservatism and my anti-Hillary work speak for itself. You don’t want to “conserve” freedoms and liberties – you want to gamble (bluff) on the off chance a Hillary presidency will “reset” the country into your ideological conservative image. Don’t you so-called “conservatives” learn after two lost elections? That fantasy puts us all at risk and I consider it irrational, dangerous, and un-conservative.

  37. KirklesWorth says:

    Take it up with the websites that compiled the information. But I certainly believe them way before I would ever believe you. You are emotionally compromised with anti-Trump hatred to the point of risking our country on a Hillary presidency. That is about anti-conservative and pro-progressive you could be.

  38. TrojanMan says:

    Right because not supporting the prog(R)essive candidate must mean i want hitlery to win. Trumpian logic at its finest.

  39. TrojanMan says:

    “Nothing.” Exactly.

    “learn after two lost elections” Yes which is part of the reason why we are not voting Trump. The GOP obviously did not learn anything from the last two disasters. Trump is more progressive than McLame or Romney.

    Trump will not foster return of liberties from a massive centralized government and you know this to be true.

    Feel free to call me what you like it honestly does not bother me. Coming from a rabid Trumpian cult member i know i am doing something right.

    You need some new material though its really getting stale.

    I truly feel sorry for you. You are either blissfully ignorant or willfully stupid.

  40. TrojanMan says:

    “would ever believe you.” I have never asked you to believe me on anything. Nor will I, that would be an exercise in futility. As you are so far up Trumps Rump you could chew his food.

    “anti-Trump hatred” “anti-conservative and pro-progressive” So being against the Progressive Trump actually make me a progressive? That is deep stuff Freud. Hatred huh? That is a progressive buzz word. I am a progressive for not wanting my country destroyed by a progressive or a prog(R)essive?

  41. KirklesWorth says:

    Funny, I’m trying to get Hillary defeated and Trump is the means. Do you see me championing Trump as a conservative messiah? Again, anti-Trump irrationality. And really, you have nothing but insults left after I’ve schooled you on how much more conservative Trump is than Hillary.

    “Trump is more progressive than McLame or Romney.” Trump is more progressive than Romney – but McCain was awful.

    John McCain was rated 34% conservative, 66% liberal https://www.conservativereview.com/members/john-mccain/liberty-card/

    Individual Rights (On individual rights, Mitt Romney ranks the same as Donald Trump)
    – Romney Moderately Conservative
    – Trump Moderately Conservative

    Domestic Issues (Donald Trump is slightly more conservative than Mitt Romney on domestic issues)
    – Romney Moderately Conservative
    – Trump Moderately Conservative

    Economic Issues (When it comes to economic issues, Mitt Romney is generally more conservative than Donald Trump)
    – Romney Very Conservative
    – Trump Moderately Conservative

    Defense and International Issues (In terms of defense and international issues, Mitt Romney is generally more conservative than Donald Trump)
    – Romney Slightly Conservative
    – Trump Slightly Liberal

    http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/compare/5-70/Mitt-Romney-vs-Donald-Trump

  42. KirklesWorth says:

    I’d hate to see where you up in Hillary’s…ahem. If you keep calling Trump a “progressive”, that just shows more of your anti-Trump irrationality. And yes, you have made it clear that you want your country destroyed by Hillary.

  43. TrojanMan says:

    Trump is a proven progressive as fully documented not just on this site but with even smidgen of research will show. TRUMP IS A PROGRESSIVE. That one was just for you 😉

    “And yes, you have made it clear that you want your country destroyed by Hillary” Yes by not voting for her i want her to destroy my country. More Trumpian logic on display. My country has long been destroyed. Do you really think the law rules? If that were true Hitlery would be swinging from the end of a rope.

    So if your understand your logic correctly, since i am not voting Trump i support Hitlery. Therefore since i am not voting Hitlery i am supporting Trump. See even by your pretzel logic i am supporting Trump by not voting Clinton. You should be happy then.

    Your assertion that i support Hitlery is extraordinarily weak and old.

    Understand this: When people disagree on something do they bother talking about what they agree on? No they dont. We both agree that Hitlery should at best be in prison at worse 6 feet under. Where we fundamentally disagree on is you think Trump is a pseudo-conservative and i think he is a full blown progressive.

    You may now continue with your “hillary-enabling, faux-conservative” mantra.

  44. TrojanMan says:

    ” and Trump is the means” Good luck with that!

    ” Do you see me championing Trump as a conservative messiah” Actually yeah….

    “but insults left after I’ve schooled you ” LOL>>>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You think calling people “hillary-enabling traitors, faux-conservative” is not an insult right? Schooled me on what? How to identify rabid Trumpian cultists? For that you have done a magnificent job.

    What historical evidence do you have to support your assertion that Trump is at any level a conservative?

  45. KirklesWorth says:

    Here’s a little more perspective that you seem to lack in regards to where the candidates are ideologically situated.

    Individual Rights (Donald Trump is far more conservative than Hillary Clinton; Mitt Romney ranks the same as Donald Trump)

    – Hillary Clinton = Moderately Liberal
    – Mitt Romney = Moderately Conservative
    – Donald Trump = Moderately Conservative

    Domestic Issues (Donald Trump is far more conservative than Hillary Clinton; Donald Trump is slightly more conservative than the rest of the group)

    – Hillary Clinton = Very Liberal
    – Mitt Romney = Moderately Conservative
    – Donald Trump = Moderately Conservative

    Economic Issues (Donald Trump is far more conservative than Hillary Clinton; Mitt Romney is generally more conservative than the rest of the group)

    – Hillary Clinton = Very Liberal
    – Mitt Romney = Very Conservative
    – Donald Trump = Moderately Conservative

    Defense and International Issues (Donald Trump is slightly more conservative than Hillary Clinton; Mitt Romney is generally more conservative than the rest of the group)

    – Hillary Clinton = Slightly Liberal
    – Mitt Romney = Slightly Conservative
    – Donald Trump = Slightly Liberal

    http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/compare/5-40-70/Mitt-Romney-vs-Hillary-Clinton-vs-Donald-Trump

  46. TrojanMan says:

    What historical evidence do you have to your assertions that Trump is at any level a conservative? Please provide some because all my research has shown is a pattern of championing and supporting progressive policies and candidates.

  47. KirklesWorth says:

    I just finished a reply that addresses your ridiculous “progressive” label. I repost the graph and here’s the link: http://moonbattery.com/?p=75674#comment-2867939271

    “And yes, you have made it clear that you want your country destroyed by Hillary” Yes by not voting for her i want her to destroy my country. More Trumpian logic on display. My country has long been destroyed. Do you really think the law rules? If that were true Hitlery would be swinging from the end of a rope.

    Is that supposed to be a denial? All it does is confirm that you think the country is destroyed and you won’t lift a finger to stop Hillary from totalitarian rule. Some “conservative” you are.

    So if your understand your logic correctly, since i am not voting Trump i support Hitlery. Therefore since i am not voting Hitlery i am supporting Trump. See even by your pretzel logic i am supporting Trump by not voting Clinton. You should be happy then.

    You accuse me of “pretzel logic”? Are you telling me you are so intellectually challenged that you think you can call yourself a “conservative” but somehow convince yourself not to vote against the only viable candidate to defeat Hillary?

    Understand this: When people disagree on something do they bother talking about what they agree on? No they dont. We both agree that Hitlery should at best be in prison at worse 6 feet under. Where we fundamentally disagree on is you think Trump is a pseudo-conservative and i think he is a full blown progressive.

    Again, your “progressive” label of Trump is wrong (again). It isn’t just me who thinks Trump is a “pseudo-conservative”, if you bothered to look at the green boxes on the graphic I posted from InsideGov.com, you’d see that they say:

    (1) Individutal Rights – Donald Trump is far more conservative than Hillary Clinton.
    (2) Domestic Issues – Donald Trump is far more conservative than Hillary Clinton.
    (3) Economic Issues – Donald Trump is far more conservative than Hillary Clinton.
    (4) Defense and International Issues – Donald Trump is slightly more conservative than Hillary Clinton

    So you keep asserting what you “feel” and I’ll post what other people who have really done the work know better than you, okay?

  48. KirklesWorth says:

    Are you even paying attention? That’s all I’ve been doing: Where is your “proof” that Trump is a “progressive”?

    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75674#comment-2867792964

    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75674#comment-2867827519

    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75674#comment-2867939271

  49. KirklesWorth says:

    Repeat posting #2:

    What historical evidence do you have to support your assertion that Trump is at any level a conservative?

    Are you even paying attention? That’s all I’ve been doing: Where is your “proof” that Trump is a “progressive”?

    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75674#comment-2867792964

    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75674#comment-2867827519

    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75674#comment-2867939271

    http://moonbattery.com/?p=75674#comment-2867957892

    You are a faux-conservative. You don’t have a grasp of the issues, you are emotionally compromised with anti-Trump hatred, and you are promoting a Hillary presidency and the destruction of the GOP.

  50. TrojanMan says:

    “You are a faux-conservative.” Coming from the alt-right i will take that as a compliment.

    “You don’t have a grasp of the issues” Oh but i do which is why i am not voting for any of the progressives.

    “you are promoting a Hillary presidency” By not voting for her. LOL

    “you debate with your “feelings” rather than facts” You just accused me of exactly what you do which is a liberal debate tactic. You get butthurt easy because we are exposing your boy for the progressive he is.

    Proving Trump is a turd is easy business. Convincing Trumpian cultists as yourself of this is an impossibility.

    Again you are either blissfully ignorant or willfully stupid.

  51. KirklesWorth says:

    Yep, I’ll need a lot more. These are all about donations that are 10-20 years old, which isn’t “proof” of being a “progressive” – just a businessman doing what businessmen do as opposed to a Secretary of State breaking the law.

    The stories from National Review, Patriot Update, NBC News, and Politico are all variations on the same theme – that contributing to the left is “proof” of being “progressive”. Sorry, no such luck. He could have despised them but had to “pay-to-play” as the Clintons often required. You certainly don’t have any political record like we do with Hillary.

  52. KirklesWorth says:

    Oh, now quoting Hillary’s “alt-right” argument, eh? Interesting…

    What issues do you have a grasp on? Why do you know so much better than the things I have posted from sources that have done the analysis? How about you faux-conservative “purists” who surrender to the left and want to destroy the GOP in the process? What kind of “patriots” are you?

    You keep saying the same thing as though it makes it true – but it doesn’t. See the graph below? You could make the case that Trump was “progressive” if he fell to the left of the center line – but 3 out of 4 areas are moderately to the right, so you are just plain wrong. He is conservative (“pseudo-conservative” if you like).

  53. TrojanMan says:

    ” He could have despised them but had to “pay-to-play” as the Clintons often required.” And this makes him worthy to be POTUS? No you do not have to play at all.

    “just a businessman doing what businessmen do” So as POTUS he can sell your civil rights to the highest bidder. After all its just what businessmen do right?

    His last donation to a democrat came in 2010, hardly 10-20 years ago. Oddly enough that is just two years before the 2012 election when he considered a run. After all having very recent donations to democrats certainly would not look good… unless you are a Trumpian cultist. Master can do no wrong.

    He has already backed down from border security. What about that? Has master made you wonder?

    To the true believer no evidence will suffice.

  54. KirklesWorth says:

    So much irrationality, so little time. Your nitpicking the minutiae of when donations were made and under what circumstances is a subjective factor to you and not to me nor the other sources of information I have gathered. Trump donated to democrats in the past, it’s old news, and not a deal-breaker.

    Oooh…Trump “backed down” on immigration while Hillary wants to double it and give them free healthcare…let me see…this would be a toughy unless you were a principled conservative…

    Trump is having another immigration speech tomorrow, so we will see what happens.

    I have evidence to support my arguments. You have hyperbole and innuendo (also known as squat).

  55. TrojanMan says:

    Hillary’s alt-right? She has copyright over the term? Alt-right/prog(R)essive is what you are.

    “and want to destroy the GOP in the process” YES because it has been infected by progressives!!!!

    It all boils down to this. You believe Trump and his dribble I do not.

    And this graph is based on what? His words? Words are worthless.

  56. TrojanMan says:

    “Oooh…Trump “backed down” on immigration” You are starting to admit his lying.

    “principled conservative” Odd term to use for progressive.

    “I have evidence to support my arguments” What evidence, you have provided none except arbitrary graphs based on what? Trumps words?

    You have nothing because there is nothing to show he is at any level a conservative.

  57. KirklesWorth says:

    I guess you don’t see the irony of helping Hillary and using her terminology to disparage your fellow republicans and conservatives…? Hmmm, that could be embarrassing for you.

    Only someone so emotionally compromised with anti-Trump hatred could dare to make the claim that I am an “Alt-right/prog(R)essive”, It’s just another disparaging buzzword liberals use to try and shut down discussion without having to prove anything. Hmmm, another curious similarity…

    It all boils down to what’s best for the country – not what you or I “believe” other than the hope of choosing the path of best results. You don’t believe Trump’s “dribble”, I do believe Hillary’s threats. You tell me what’s best for the country…?

    And this graph is based on what? His words? Words are worthless.

    Ask InsideGov.com youself – or do you just summarily dismiss sources based on your disbelief of his words? First you lie about me not having anything to back up my words, then you summarily dismiss my sources without contrary information. This must all be very convenient for you to be “right” and to ignore what you want to ignore.

  58. KirklesWorth says:

    Only you could equate “Oooh…Trump “backed down” on immigration” to lying. Do I need to hold up a “sarcasm” sign?

    “principled conservative” Odd term to use for progressive.

    But you don’t know what a “principled conservative” is, because you are not conserving rights or liberties – you are risking them at the alter of “conservative ideology” in the hopes it will spark some miraculous change. What a pipe dream.

    “I have evidence to support my arguments” What evidence, you have provided none except arbitrary graphs based on what? Trumps words?

    This is the second time you asked me the same thing. Take it up with the sources of information if you have a problem that their research doesn’t match your “feelings”.

    You have nothing because there is nothing to show he is at any level a conservative.

    Sure I do…didn’t you see this the three other times I posted it? Oh right – you get to ignore everything you don’t like because “Trump lies”. I forgot. Please forgive me. http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/compare/5-40-70/Mitt-Romney-vs-Hillary-Clinton-vs-Donald-Trump

  59. TrojanMan says:

    “You tell me what’s best for the country…?” Revolution. Preferably bloodless. Repeal anything and every Oblowme has done. Nuke the IRS, repeal the 16th amendment, institute national sales tax, Nuke the FED. That would be a good start. Trump will do NONE of these.

    “or do you just summarily dismiss sources based on your disbelief of his words?” If the source is based SOLELY on his words than YES, i automatically do not trust it. Because politicians lie.. its what they do.

    Trump has never held public office. Therefore what evidence do we have that he will in ANY way govern as a conservative? The answer is NONE. The evidence we do have is that Trump has a history of donating and supporting progressive candidates and causes.. FACT.

  60. KirklesWorth says:

    Wow…you sound positively petrified of Trump being president while mildly indifferent about Hillary being president. Sorry, but I am just the opposite.

    And I just edited a post to contradict what you just posted, but I’ll put it here as well – although I really resent having to chase down information for you because you don’t know and/or are too lazy to find out:

    Mostly False: Donald Trump’s campaign contributions to Democrats and Republicans

    Trump has actually been relatively evenhanded in doling out cash to the two parties, but since 1989, he’s contributed over $350,000 more to Republicans running for federal and state offices, campaign finance records show.

    Data from the Federal Election Commission and state elections offices provided by the two websites show that Trump has given $584,850 to Democrats and $961,140 to the GOP over the last 26 years.http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jul/09/ben-ferguson/donald-trumps-campaign-contributions-democrats-and/

  61. TrojanMan says:

    Well Trump has backed down on immigration so yeah he lied.

    “in the hopes it will spark some miraculous change. What a pipe dream.” Even if Trump is elected do you see things getting better or worse? Be honest, you know things will only continue to get worse. We have gone past the point of no return. We must revolt or live as slaves.

    Seriously dude what is it with you and feelings? You have some feeling fetish, its wierd.

    I didnt not ignore the graph. Since Trump has never held office this is based on his words alone which i do not trust.

  62. TrojanMan says:

    Contradict what? I NEVER said he did not donate to republicans you disingenuous liar. But the fact he has donated to Clinton, Reid, Schumer, Rangel makes no difference to you huh?

    “resent” resent what you like Trumpian cultist.

    Trump/Hillary outcome will be the same. We will continue to slide into tyranny. That you are indifferent to. I am the opposite.

  63. KirklesWorth says:

    Right…he hasn’t done anything, he’s showing republican moderates some of the compassion they are polling for (since the conservatives have bailed on him), and you call him a “liar”. Must be nice to be so sure of yourself and others.

    Are you going to ask me a question or tell me what I supposedly think? If you are so irrational that you think things won’t get better with Trump, then you have drunken all of the progressive Kool-Aid. Trump hasn’t done anything yet and you’ve already convicted him of treason.

    Sorry, you are the one guided by your weird feelings fetish. You just “feel” that Trump is lying about everything but you “feel” okay with a Hillary presidency. Even when the data is dragged out in front of you, you don’t “feel” like it can be trusted even when it’s from a source like ConservativeReview.com.

    So all of your asking questions about my support for Trump were disingenuous attempts to find fault and attack, eh? That sounds like a progressive tactic as well…hmmm…

  64. KirklesWorth says:

    Sensitive of the word “contradict”, eh? Well, fortunately I never said that you did say that he did not donate to republicans you disingenuous putter-of-words-in-my-mouth. And also, fortunately, the definition of “contradict” gives me some leeway: con·tra·dictˌkäntrəˈdikt/ (1) deny the truth of (a statement), especially by asserting the opposite; (2) assert the opposite of a statement made by (someone); (3) be in conflict with. Sorry if I offended your delicate sensibilities.

    “resent” resent what you like Trumpian cultist.

    Fine, then look up things yourself and spare me having to fill in the blanks. And I see your “Trumpian cultist” and raise you one pseudo-conservative Hillary enabler.

    Trump/Hillary outcome will be the same. We will continue to slide into tyranny. That you are indifferent to. I am the opposite.

    Sounds like there is a word or two missing in your thought. In terms of tyranny, Hillary displays it proudly and her people will cheer her on as she bestows it upon us. Trump will be watched like a hawk and won’t be able to do any weird things without resistance from both the left and the right.

  65. TrojanMan says:

    I never denied he donated to republicans canadian.

    “Trump will be watched like a hawk and won’t be able to do any weird things without resistance from both the left and the right.” Sure like he is being watched now to make sure he doesnt say or do anything stupid… oh wait..

  66. TrojanMan says:

    ” republican moderates some of the compassion” I.E he flipped

  67. KirklesWorth says:

    And I never asserted that you denied he donated to republicans – whatever nationality you are. If you are guessing that I am a Canadian, then just add that to the list of wrong assessments you continue to make.

    Funny, I don’t think democrats and republicans have any authority to watch him nor “make sure he doesnt say or do anything stupid”, do they? Do you like to throw in irrelevancies to see if they will stick?

  68. KirklesWorth says:

    Republican moderates would believe he is following the will of the people. Got a problem with that?

  69. TrojanMan says:

    We are a republic not a democracy. The law rules not the mob. Well the law is suppose to rule but it currently does not.

  70. KirklesWorth says:

    Uh huh…that’s a flowery way of saying you have a problem with the will of the people. If Trump’s going to win without the fair-weather-republican “conservatives”, then he has to move to where the other votes are, right?

  71. TrojanMan says:

    If you do not know what state i live in then you are not paying the attention i give you credit for.

    “Funny, I don’t think democrats and republicans have any authority to watch him” Yet you claim congress will? Oblowme has set a very bad precedent with executive fiat which the next POTUS is sure to expand on either it be Trump or Clinton. Trump/Clinton will not bring back rule of law and individual liberty.

  72. KirklesWorth says:

    Maybe your tin foil hat was on too tight, because I was responding to your “canadian” comment with “whatever nationality you are” (JOKE). Okay, so it wasn’t that great.

    You are irrational. The government was afraid of blocking Obama in fear of being called “racists”. In some ways, if they oppose Trump they will be hailed as “heroes” – by both democrats and republicans. And did I mention that Trump supports more rights and liberties than Hillary? I’m sure I did…

  73. TrojanMan says:

    “that’s a flowery way of saying you have a problem with the will of the people” Thats a flowery way of saying you have a problem with the rule of law.

    He already said multiple times he does not need us or want us.

    “then he has to move to where the other votes are, right?” Are you talking about him courting Bern-outs?

  74. TrojanMan says:

    Is this graphed based on anything but his words?

  75. KirklesWorth says:

    Sorry, sometimes things just pop into my head like “We the People”, and democracy / the democratic process, and stuff…you know…things you have contempt for.

    Funny, I thought “conservatives” like at the National Review bailed early with things like this January 21,2016 article “Conservatives against Trump” http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430126/donald-trump-conservatives-oppose-nomination

    “then he has to move to where the other votes are, right?” Are you talking about him courting Bern-outs?

    No, strange as it may sound, there are republicans that don’t hold our conservative ideals as closely and would be so heartless as to allow illegals who have been here for a couple of decades to stay – terrible, right?

  76. KirklesWorth says:

    Look up the sources if you are so interested. I’m not your errand boy.

  77. TrojanMan says:

    “”We the People”, and democracy / the democratic process,” Yeah most democrats think we are a democracy so i can understand you getting confused. But no we are a Constitutional Republic. We are not subject to the whim of the mob.

  78. TrojanMan says:

    You posted it.. i would hope you would take the time to read the source of the graph.

  79. KirklesWorth says:

    Uh huh. So the American people exercising their right to vote is a mob, eh? “We the People” are a mob, eh? So this whole “democracy” thing is just a farce then?

  80. KirklesWorth says:

    Oh, and I’m supposed to assess it’s practices and techniques and bestow that upon you? Give me a break – do it yourself.

  81. TrojanMan says:

    Right to vote is just that a right and is not subject to the whims of the mob. Learn the difference between constitutionally protected activities and mob rule. eh? eh?

    So if We the People want to suspend KriklesWorth civil liberties you would be ok with that because it is the democratic process? After all the people spoke. If We the People want to take away your house you would be ok with that because hey the people voted?

  82. KirklesWorth says:

    Now you are bossing me with “Learn the difference between constitutionally protected activities and mob rule.”?

    So if We the People want to suspend KriklesWorth civil liberties you would be ok with that because it is the democratic process? After all the people spoke. If We the People want to take away your house you would be ok with that because hey the people voted?

    Funny, I don’t recall saying any of that. You are the one who has problems with what people have decided in the democratic process and if Trump follows moderate republicans since conservatives bailed on him. I guess it must be a terrible burden for you to know what’s best but yet watch people vote contrary to their best interests. Democracy is hard!

  83. TrojanMan says:

    “You are the one who has problems with what people have decided in the democratic process” Yes i am disappointed that RINOs and democrats choose the republican nominee but hey its the democratic process. We need closed primaries. Trump would not most likely have not been the nominee.

    “Democracy is hard!” We are not a democracy and our founders were quite clear about this.

  84. KirklesWorth says:

    Uh huh. Well, good luck on your “pure democracy” pilgrimage. While you waste your time, I’ll fight Hillary so that it doesn’t become even less of a democracy than you decry now.

  85. TrojanMan says:

    “even less of a democracy” Ug we are NOT a democracy. Do you want it to be?

  86. KirklesWorth says:

    You are irony-impaired. There won’t be a democracy – or a constitutional republic under Hillary’s tyranny. Sheesh.

  87. TrojanMan says:

    Read my previous posts to find your answer.

  88. KirklesWorth says:

    Fine, if you won’t come out and say it, I won’t harp on you. If your constitutional republic doesn’t present you with the results you desire, you’ll follow the rule of law to correct it, right? And you’ll do this before a progressive-liberal-socialist criminal becomes president and wrecks it all, right?

  89. TrojanMan says:

    “wrecks it all” As i have stated before it has already been wrecked. The law no longer rules. The solution is to revolt. You may have the last word.

  90. KirklesWorth says:

    Okay…I’m a glass-half-full guy, you are a glass-completely-empty guy. I’m not trying to compound our country’s suffering with another progressive-liberal-socialist who also happens to be a criminal. You claim your patriotism is revolt, I claim my patriotism is supporting the republican candidate – even against the attacks of his so called “conservative” brethren who latched onto Ted Cruz but won’t break their my-way-or-the-highway attitude towards this election. This all-or-nothing “conservatism” wants to achieve the impossible – a walk back to the early 20th century. So-called “conservative” ideologues have been failing for decades – and I see no reason to buy into their irrational anti-Trump fear now. Their conservative ideals hasn’t prevented the socialism creep that has plagued our country for those same decades, so I doubt they have what it takes to be true leaders. Ted Cruz couldn’t play nice, and how he is on the top of the candidate scrap heap – all he had to do is reign-in some of his conservative arrogance and maybe we would have been voting for president Cruz instead of president Trump.

  91. Aussie_John says:

    Our minimum wage in Australia is about $16 / hour. (About $12 – $13 US)
    But, we don’t tip as a normal practice. Our restaurant prices are high compared to the US.

  92. KirklesWorth says:

    We in the U.S. try to operate under the concept of “market value” where competition for jobs lowers the market wage as more people are willing to take a job for less than a competitor and improves the quality of service. Tips are obviously a “to insure promptness”.bonus.

  93. Two2trees says:

    Hey. I know you. I didn’t know you were connected to this site.

  94. Torcer says:

    Well, it’s actually a multi part question.

    Yes, there are in most cases 4 presidential candidates on the ballot, but there are also a multitude of down ballot races.

    My point is that we are not just talking the presidency but control of the Congress and Trump is acting as anchor on those contests.

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