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May 23 2016

Open Thread

on-socialism

Passed along by Smokey.




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  1. Open Thread says:

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  2. death merchant says:

    fergusen mo. flint mich. your city on capitalism!

  3. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Yes, indeed; capitalism destroyed much of Michigan. Unionized workers certainly are capitalists. And a city relying upon one manufacturer is certainly capitalist.

    And when that company decides to build factories in Mexico, did you notice that all the highly skilled workers attracted other factories to move to Flint?

    But, hey; why not force companies to remain in Flint? Or in a city like Fergusen where race riots just add to the local flavor.

  4. Bodhisattva says:

    http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/05/23/foggy-numbers-obamas-wars-and-non-wars

    The Foggy Numbers Of Obama’s Wars And Non-Wars

    Why should we expect this to be any more honest than anything else from this administration?

  5. Bodhisattva says:

    Obama shattered the record!

    http://www.mrctv.org/blog/border-apprehensions-surge-past-fy2014-numbers

    April Sets FY2016 Alien Apprehension Record, Surges Past FY2014 Numbers

    Of course under the Obama rules it’s CATCH AND RELEASE and they don’t bother to show up for their hearings. Too busy registering to vote!

  6. Bodhisattva says:

    http://www.abc15.com/news/region-central-southern-az/other/documents-somali-citizen-tried-to-run-over-border-agents-in-southern-arizona

    Somali citizen tried to run over border agents in southern Arizona

    Ahmed Elni Abdalla drove up to a checkpoint near Amado. When agents approached Abdalla’s car, he drove through the stop sign and tried to get away at a “high rate of speed.”

    The high-speed pursuit continued up to Green Valley where agents were able to box in Abdalla’s car.

    However, Abdalla allegedly refused to get out. When agents tried to break his car window, Abdalla drove right at agents who had to “jump out of the way in order to avoid being hit,” according to federal paperwork.

    In December, another Somali citizen was detained by Border Patrol agents. Investigators say Omar Haji Mohamed was paid to help sneak people across the U.S. Border.

  7. Mr. Freemarket says:

    A car is a deadly weapon. If a car is pointed at a border patrol agent (or police officer), and the driver starts to try to run down the agent or officer, they are certainly justified by responding with deadly force.

  8. Bodhisattva says:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/virginia-gov-terry-mcauliffe-under-fbi-investigation-possible-campaign-violations-n578946

    Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe Under FBI Investigation For Possible Campaign Violations

    Records show more than 100 donors contributed to both the Clinton Crime Family Foundation and McAuliffe’s campaign.

  9. Bodhisattva says:

    https://theintercept.com/2016/05/23/hillary-clinton-fracking/

    Hillary Clinton’s Energy Initiative Pressed Countries to Embrace Fracking, New Emails Reveal

  10. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Apparently Bill has got Vince Foster’s voter registration form up to date so that he, too, can vote for Hillary.

    I believe that the four killed in Benghazi will also be voting for Hillary. The dead will show up to vote in record numbers.

    For those who don’t believe voter fraud is a problem, they should have a sit-down with Bernie Sanders.

  11. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Are Trump’s contributions going to get him into trouble, too?

  12. Bodhisattva says:

    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/05/23/freddie-gray-arresting-officer-edward-nero-found-not-guilty-on-all-charges/

    Freddie Gray Arresting Officer Edward Nero Found Not Guilty On All Charges

    I can just hear the liberals now: Yeah, he was found to be “not guilty”, not innocent!

    They don’t seem to understand you’re innocent until proven guilty so a finding of NOT GUILTY is a finding of INNOCENT.

  13. Bodhisattva says:

    Left in the heat with its legs tied all day, a camel attacked its owner and severed his head in anger in Rajasthan’s Barmer district on Saturday.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/Tied-in-heat-all-day-angry-camel-severs-owners-head/articleshow/52392651.cms

    “The animal lifted him by the neck and threw him on to the ground, chewed the body and severed the head,” villager Thakara Ram said. Villagers revealed that the camel had attacked Urjaram in the past as well.

  14. Feet2Fire says:

    Wow! Sounds like karmic payback…

  15. Feet2Fire says:

    DEMO-graphics.

  16. Tom says:

    Lovers’ quarrel?

  17. Bodhisattva says:

    He was cheatin’!

  18. Bodhisattva says:

    Perhaps – though who is contributing to him & how much?

  19. Bodhisattva says:

    They claim there’s never been proof of significant voter fraud… because the Democrats have done all they can to eliminate any method of proving it!

  20. Tom says:

    Hell hath no fury like a camel scorned…

  21. Jack says:

    Socialist politicians are more equal than others and are not immune to large payouts for favors from lobbyists, just ask Bill & Killery.

  22. StephaneDumas says:

    They big mansion would fit as well for some Hollywood celebrities on socialism like Sean Penn, Michael Moore, George Clooney (or should I said George Clowney?), etc…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa8jOoL0LoE

  23. Mr. Freemarket says:

    It is funny to me that one must have government issued ID in order to get a job, cash a check, climb on an airplane, and several dozen other tasks that we simply take as a given in order to be able to function in society.

    Yet the democrats would rather justify the lack of ID in order to vote rather than helping these disadvantaged people to overcome the smallest of hurdles in the process of becoming productive members of society.

    The reality is that democrats only oppose voter ID laws because they intend to exploit holes in the system to get democrats elected.

  24. Mr. Freemarket says:

    And what gave us Silicon Valley? Socialism?

  25. Bodhisattva says:

    It’s funny to me that the Democrats say you should not need an ID to vote… and yet try to get into any major Democratic political function without two forms of ID… good luck, never happen!

  26. Bodhisattva says:

    And they all seem to vote Democrat:

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/05/23/cbs2-investigation-uncovers-votes-being-cast-from-grave-year-after-year/

    CBS2 Investigation Uncovers Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year

    A comparison of records by David Goldstein, investigative reporter for CBS2/KCAL9, has revealed hundreds of so-called dead voters in Southern California, a vast majority of them in Los Angeles County.

    “He took a lot of time choosing his candidates,” said Annette Givans of her father, John Cenkner.

    Cenkner died in Palmdale in 2003. Despite this, records show that he somehow voted from the grave in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008 and 2010.

    But he’s not the only one.

    CBS2 compared millions of voting records from the California Secretary of State’s office with death records from the Social Security Administration and found hundreds of so-called dead voters.

    Specifically, 265 in Southern California and a vast majority of them, 215, in Los Angeles County alone.

    The numbers come from state records that show votes were cast in that person’s name after they died. In some cases, Goldstein discovered that they voted year after year.

    Across all counties, Goldstein uncovered 32 dead voters who cast ballots in eight elections apiece, including a woman who died in 1988. Records show she somehow voted in 2014, 26 years after she passed away.

    “[Cenkner was] a diehard Democrat, and I was thinking that if somebody was voting under his name, he’s probably rolling in his grave if they were voting Republican,” Givans said.

    She said her dad always voted at the polls, only now records show someone else may be casting his vote.

    “It just astounds me. I don’t understand how anybody can get away with that,” she said.

    And then there’s Julita Abutin.

    Records show she voted in Norwalk in 2014, 2012, 2010 and 2008 though she died in 2006.

    Abutin’s daughter, Marivic, says it’s impossible that her mother voted.

    But the Los Angeles County Registrar confirms they have signed vote-by-mail envelopes with her mother’s name for the 2014 and 2012 election, though she died 10 years ago.

    Edward Carbajal Jr.’s father died in La Puente in 2001 but state records show a vote was cast in his father’s name in eight elections after he passed away.

    “I mean, that should be something that everybody that’s involved with these types of things should know who’s alive and who isn’t,” he said.

    The Los Angeles County Registrar told CBS2: “We remove 1200 to 2000 deceased records from the database per month.”

    But the news station checked all of the dead voters from LA County on the Registrar’s website and found 212 of the 215 were still registered and eligible to vote in next month’s presidential primary election.

    “It’s very troubling because it basically dilutes the voice of the lawful voter,” said Ellen Swensen with the “True the Vote,” a nationwide voter-rights group.

    “What it does is every single vote that’s cast by a dead voter actually cancels out a vote of a lawful voter cause if they voted for one candidate and you voted let’s say for another, your vote got canceled out,” she said.

    As Goldstein reports, it was all supposed to change after the hanging chads incident in Florida in the 2000 presidential election. Congress passed the Help America Vote Act in 2002, which mandated sweeping reforms, including a statewide voter registration system that would eliminate ineligible voters.

    But California is the only state that’s still not compliant with the act. Secretary of State Alex Padilla hopes to have it compliant later this year.

    “You’re not supposed to have dead people on the rolls,” said J. Christian Adams, who is with the Public Interest Legal Foundation.

    “The problem is California has been the most derelict state in the country in implementing statewide databases that are required under federal law. They just blew it off for over a decade,” said Adams.

    And in that decade and more, CBS2 found hundreds of votes on the state’s own database cast for people who have died, like Cenkner.

    “It’s very said that people can just take somebody’s name and go out and vote for them,” said Givans.

  27. TED says:

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://i.imgur.com/Xp50m2E.jpg

  28. TED says:

    http://i.imgur.com/CO0L6wr.jpg But then THAT would mean OBOZO gave a crap about women, ANYONE with more than half a brain cell KNOWS THAT’S not true!

  29. TED says:

    JUST THAT SIMPLE, THE DEFINITION OF THE LEFT! http://i.imgur.com/OGwrZPy.jpg

  30. TED says:

    http://i.imgur.com/MxCh6Xo.gif IF IT WERE COVERED IN OIL IT WOULD BE FRONT PAGE!!

  31. TED says:

    http://i.imgur.com/jyFefVu.jpg Stupid IS – a progressive.

  32. TED says:

    http://i.imgur.com/ze4nJ4n.jpg YAH, that’s the LEADER of the LEFT!!

  33. TED says:

    http://i.imgur.com/nsMLGBO.jpg LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, Oooooooooooops, ANOTHER FAIL for the LEFT!!

  34. TED says:

    http://i.imgur.com/dj13qJn.jpg YES, and you talk about the NEED to be written OUT of history, it’s the FIRST I’ve EVER SEEN!! THAT IS HIS LEGACY!!!

  35. TED says:

    http://i.imgur.com/edTg9p5.jpg But then THEY are morons…

  36. TED says:

    ROTFLMAO! Stick THAT in your feminazi!! http://i.imgur.com/hmx9SmD.jpg

  37. TED says:

    ANYONE NOT believe leftists are MORONS???!!! http://i.imgur.com/AX7AM7t.jpg

  38. JeffersonSpinningInGrave says:

    They believe in mob rule (as long as they are the mob), and they want a lynching.

  39. Ed. G. Mann says:

    Actually no court ever finds someone innocent. They don’t know that. All that is proven is that the individual is not guilty of that offense for which they were arrested and tried. An example is O.J. Simpson. Does anyone think he is innocent of that murder? But he was found Not Guilty.

  40. Ed. G. Mann says:

    His contributions are small, in the under $100 size coming from common people not big donors.

  41. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Unlike the contributions that Trump made to McAuliffe and the Clinton Foundation.

  42. Mr. Freemarket says:

    That’s right, girls. You have inflamed the passion of the Muslims with your provocative dress. You must dress modestly around Muslims.

    If you want to dress in a provocative manner, expecting men to not attack and rape you, you had best surround yourself with Christians.

  43. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Nope; that graphic is a lie. You only get to come in if a) you are a Muslim, or b) you are Hispanic and promise to vote for democrats forever.

  44. Mr. Freemarket says:

    But if there were no guns, then no one could steal your guns, and then what would they sell in the parking lot of the local Target Store?

  45. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Nope;….not Debbie……..Too good looking…..

  46. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Monica has fallen on hard times. If Bill Clinton is returned to the White House, will she be hired again as an intern?

    And does the blue dress still fit?

  47. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Abe Lincoln will vote for Hillary Clinton in November.

  48. KHarn says:

    Whines the guy using a computer. In a house or apartment made by a building company. Wearing factory-made clothes. Eating store-bought food.
    Shall I go on?

  49. KHarn says:

    I vote in person and always check the register book to make certain that my father and brother are not listed.

  50. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Perhaps your father and brother vote at a different precinct.

    After all….they have moved.

    Then again, many of the dead choose to vote after the polls close and democrat poll-workers determine how many additional votes are needed.

  51. KHarn says:

    (Heavily) Thank you. I feel MUCH better now.”

  52. TED says:

    Eeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, BET NOT!!

  53. TED says:

    Copy THAT! Too sane looking for HER!

  54. TED says:

    AND use for the NEXT child abduction by a freak in the women’s restroom AT TARGET!!

  55. Ed. G. Mann says:

    Those contributions were lawful; no one has accused him of any fraud or other illicit activities. What the Clintion’s did probably is a different tale. Are you going to pick on every other businessman/woman that made ‘donations’ to Clinton?

    This is bogus and you know it.

  56. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Indeed. If you are a woman, how are going going to stop a 240 pound man from potentially snatching a child out of your arms and running off with them? Are you going to rely upon your stern look and yelling at the top of your lungs?

    So you are relying upon another man to come to your rescue?

    Carry and use effective tools.

  57. Mr. Freemarket says:

    I believe Bill still likes them young and dumb.

  58. Mr. Freemarket says:

    The truth is that Muslim women are required to cover up so as to not temp Muslim men.

  59. Mr. Freemarket says:

    ” Are you going to pick on every other businessman/woman that made ‘donations’ to Clinton?”

    Nope; just those businessmen who are running for president.

  60. Ed. G. Mann says:

    Fine but that is 20-year-old history. Tell me if he’s donating to them today.

  61. TED says:

    AMEN, if the ANIMALS see MORE than their EYEBALLS (sometimes that is too much) they CAN’T keep from throwing them down and raping them. SUCH an upgrade from SHEEP I guess… 😎 !

  62. TED says:

    At Bill’s age, BREATHING is his prime requirement…

  63. TED says:

    My answer, SHOOT HIS ASS, the left’s answer, Pee yourself…

  64. Mr. Freemarket says:

    You can pretend that history doesn’t matter. Then you will be just like any other progressive.

  65. Ed. G. Mann says:

    That is a crock! Now tell me Reagan never changed from being a Democrat union man or that Paul’s jolt on the road to Damascus amounted to static electricity.

    Nope, these things never happened.

    You ( Social conservatives collectively) can either get on board and have some say from the inside or the new GOP (sans Elites) will be viewing you in the rear view mirror. The contest is over.

  66. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Reagan was willing, able, and frequently explained his conversion from democrat to republican. We both knew that he was a republican and why he was a republican.

    Similarly, Paul explained in explicit detail that event that converted him from Christian Prosecutor to Christian.

    Trump has never, ever, explained his conversion from New York Liberal to conservative. He has never explained how his views on various liberal causes have “evolved” into conservative views. His statement on guns in schools is a fine example of his erratic thinking process. “Schools shouldn’t have guns, but maybe some teachers should have guns, but schools shouldn’t have guns, but some well trained teachers should have guns.

    I’ve got news for you, Ed. I’ve made a serious effort to change the GOP from the inside for over 40 years. Do you think that Trump gives a damn what I think (or social conservatives in general think)? Trump supporters are willing to give him carte blanche. They are willing to forgive any inconsistency in his position. They are willing to accept that if Trump accomplishes one thing in his presidency, they will be satisfied. I keep hearing “get on the Trump train.” You and his supporters have zero influence over the man or where his train is headed. You are simply another passenger.

  67. Ed. G. Mann says:

    Horse pucky! The GOP couldn’t give a good God damn about Conservatives and you’re BSing that you were ever going to change the Republican Party.

    They pissed on Conservatives from Al D’Amato , the Buckleys , Reagan and any other you can name. Reagan was hated, but they had to deal with him. Notice that Congress gave him the tax cuts but shoved the spending cuts up his nose. The economy took off and so did the deficit.

    And where do you get the idea that Trump or anyone owes you an explanation for why he’s now a Republican.
    Particularly to some group of voters whose principles are so stiff they cannot compromise: My way of the highway.

    Principles without power are a cage.

  68. Mr. Freemarket says:

    In my state we rid ourselves of Bob Bennett, replacing him with Mike Lee. We did a pretty good job hiring Jason Chaffetz as our representative, too. Unfortunately, we were unable to rid ourselves of Orrin Hatch.

    That’s how we change the party.

    Trump is applying for office. He is, in reality, our employee. I suspect that my hiring standards are just more stringent than yours.

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