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Nov 23 2016

Open Thread


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  1. Alphamail says:

    To all the people on this website who gave me a thumbs up in this past year I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. To all the people who never gave me a thumbs up, and instead condemned me, and called me names, I also want to thank you from the bottom of my heart.
    This is America – we don’t have to agree, and quite honestly it would be a terrible place if we did – and we are in this boat together and none of us want it to sink.
    So, God bless you all, God bless America, and let’s all work together to keep this nation the greatest nation ever conceived. Happy thanksgiving to EVERYONE and may God richly bless ALL of you and your families.

  2. Thanksgiving – Alice’s Restaurant

    For many years it’s been my custom to listen to Alice’s Restaurant on Thanksgiving. Lets take a trip to Alice’s Restaurant. Where we can part take in a neat and groovy blast from the past. –

  3. Tchhht!!! says:

    Good men and women exist everywhere in America. Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!

  4. Bodhisattva says:

    Poor Obama, things aren’t going his way lately.

    Must be frustrating for the would be god-emperor! He’s finding out his pen and phone weren’t quite so mighty after all!

    Judge blocks Obama rule extending overtime pay to 4.2 million U.S. workers

    A federal judge on Tuesday blocked an Obama administration rule to extend mandatory overtime pay to more than 4 million workers from taking effect, imperiling one of the outgoing president’s signature achievements for boosting wages.
    U.S. District Judge Amos Mazzant in Sherman, Texas, agreed with 21 states and a coalition of business groups, including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, that the rule is unlawful and granted their motion for a nationwide injunction. It was to take effect Dec. 1.

    The rule would have doubled to $47,500 the maximum salary a worker can earn and still be eligible for mandatory overtime pay.

    The states and business groups claimed in lawsuits filed in September that were later consolidated that the drastic increase in the salary threshold was arbitrary.

    Mazzant, who was appointed by President Obama, held thatthe rule runs counter to the federal law that governs who is eligible for overtime. The law does not allow the Labor Department to determine eligibility based only on salary levels, Mazzant said.

    So sorry, Obama. Only Congress can legislate.

  5. Bodhisattva says:

    Man Trump better not screw this up…

    Soaring Consumer Confidence: Are Americans Happy It’s Trump, or Just Happy It’s Over?


  6. Bodhisattva says:

    I notice the media is thinking that if they misreport what Trump says that they think they can somehow shame him into doing things their way?

    Media falsely spins Trump’s NYT climate comments – Trump cited Climategate, restated skepticism of ‘global warming’ – Read full transcript

    Trump to NYT warmist Tom Friedman: ‘A lot of smart people disagree with you’ on climate change.

    Trump correctly cited the Climategate scandal: ‘They say they have science on one side but then they also have those horrible emails that were sent between scientists…Terrible. Where they got caught, you know, so you see that and you say, what’s this all about.’

    Heartland Institute President Joe Bast had this to say about the full transcript of Trump’s meeting: “This is reassuring. The Left wants to drive wedges between Trump and his base by spinning anything he says as “retreating from campaign promises.” But expressing nuance and avoiding confrontation with determined foes who buy ink by the barrel is not retreating.”

    Don’t fall for the spin and hype. If Trump fails to act, or acts wrongly, yeah, tear him apart all you want. But first, give him a chance.

  7. Bodhisattva says:

    U.S. sees spike in apprehensions along southern border

    Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson on Wednesday reported that there’s been a spike in the number of people apprehended along the southern border, adding to the complexity of the immigration situation that President-elect Donald Trump will inherit.

    Johnson said there currently are about 41,000 individuals in our immigration detention facilities, a big jump from the typical 31,000 to 34,000 figure.

    We need expedited repatriation.

  8. Bodhisattva says:

    Researchers have found a troubling new cause of death for middle-aged white Americans

    White Americans without a college degree are becoming more likely to die in middle age, reversing decades of progress toward better health.

    Researchers first noticed this worrisome trend last year. They pointed to increases in opioid abuse, obesity and suicide among the causes of death, but what caused these increases has remained something of a mystery.

    This week, a pair of economists have advanced a new theory. They suggest that, for many workers, a major shift in the structure of the U.S. economy may have been fatal.

    The researchers, Justin Pierce and Peter Schott, found evidence that trade with China has resulted in greater rates of suicide and poisonings (including fatal drug overdoses) after 2000, when President Clinton and Republican lawmakers allowed a major increase in imports.

    Pierce and Schott suggest that as competition with Chinese manufacturing forced U.S. factories to close, many of the Americans who were laid off never got their lives back together. Instead, they fell into depression or addiction. White adults, in particular, suffered from the change in policy.

    Schott thinks that trade can have important economic benefits on the whole but that his results shows that policymakers need to do more to help those workers who are displaced.

    “I’m in favor of free trade, but I’m also someone who believes that we should be honest about the consequences,” Schott said. “It doesn’t benefit everyone equally.”

  9. Bodhisattva says:

    Which position did the Dalek get?

    Another genius move… with all them in the picture he stands out as far and away the best.

    This guy can do no wrong!

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  11. EVERYDAY PRESIDENT ☆ ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ says:

    A Happy Thanksgiving to all.. only 56 Days To Go until we are done with the Worst President Ever. Let us hope that his toxic brand of social engineering will not have done irreversible damage.

    Here I present you with a truly sad example of a young English girl brainwashed right inside her own country:

    “would deeply and sincerely like to apologise to every one for this, and black women especially. I would like to clarify, I believe this shoot is from when I was around 15 and didn’t understand cultural appropriation or the impact it has on POC. I was uneducated, which obviously is no excuse, ignorant and immature. Growing up in a very very white city, I had no idea the struggles black women face and how often they were persecuted for their hair. I didn’t understand how black women are constantly told their natural hair is inappropriate/unprofessional for the work place, or how young girls are told they can’t go to school with natural hair. I didn’t understand that shoots like this support the very Eurocentric beauty standard that the mainstream media focus on which reinforce the idea that black features are only ok on white women. […]

    Quite obviously the result of school badgering and brainwashing. This is so sad that even the – presumably – black commenters on her Instagram post had pity on her.

  12. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Happy Thanksgiving. God bless These United States and her citizens.

    I have resolved (again) to be less contentious and more supportive this coming year, as befits one who attempts to follow The Master. Please accept my apologies for my frequently offensive comments.

  13. JackisBack says:

    Happy White Guilt Self-Flagellation Day.

  14. Vic Kelley says:

    Happy Thanksgiving!

  15. TED says:

  16. Bodhisattva says:

    Dry conditions and high winds have spread the flames across the central and northern regions of Israel as well as parts of the West Bank.

    And, just as they were after 9/11, the arabs who falsely call themselves “palestinians” are giddy with glee over it, celebrating it. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of it is arson. Deliberately set by them.

    Their goals are death and destruction.

    Like our moonbat Democrats, they are not in touch with reality:

    Another Kuwaiti sheikh, Nabil Ali al-Awad, also took to Twitter in a fiery rant to his 6 million followers on the social media platform.

    “God burned their hearts and their homes and their money and their bodies and make their graves inflamed…because of what they did to the [Muslim] believers,” he wrote alongside the hashtag “#Israel_IsBurning.”

    The Persian Gulf sheikh later returned to Twitter to apologized for using the word “Israel” in his previous post, attempting to explain that “there is no such entity. I used the word as part of a hashtag.”

  17. Bodhisattva says:

    Yeah, liberal moonbats do call it that… and that’s all they do all year round, so I don’t see why they would single out this day with that name. But then again, nothing they say or do makes sense so…

  18. Bodhisattva says:

    Tokyo has November snow for first time in 54 years

    By some reports it’s going to be a long, cold winter. We will see.

  19. Bodhisattva says:

    I posted this for the first headline, but then I noticed the second…

    The first: Antarctic Sea Ice Has Not Shrunk In 100 Years

    The second: Trump To Scrap NASA Climate Research In Crackdown On ‘Politicized Science’

    In fact there are 5 parts to this one link:

    1) Antarctic Sea Ice Has Not Shrunk In 100 Years, Scott And Shackleton Logbooks Prove
    2) Trump To Scrap NASA Climate Research In Crackdown On ‘Politicized Science’
    3) GWPF Climate Briefing: A Brief History Of Arctic Angst
    4) Reality Check: Donald Trump On Climategate & The Paris Agreement
    5) Bjorn Lomborg: Trump’s Climate Plan Might Not Be So Bad After All

  20. Bodhisattva says:

    It’s not just that they HAVE laws, they actually have leadership that ENFORCES those laws. Good find!

  21. Bodhisattva says:

    Well, there was the time he told Putin to wait until after the election…

  22. Bodhisattva says:

    Kansas killing, abduction suspect living in US illegally

    A Texas woman accused of killing a mother and taking her baby was in the U.S. illegally when she was released from a Kansas jail this summer before immigration officials had a chance to request she be held, law enforcement authorities said.

    ILLEGAL Immigrant Sexually Assaults 12-Year-Old Girl He Met At Church Over A Dozen Times (they said “undocumented”, I fixed it for them.)

    An immigrant living illegally in the United States is accused of sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl.

    The Bensalem Township Police Department said in a statement that 33-year-old Jorge Luis Ramirez, an ILLEGAL immigrant from Honduras, sexually assaulted the girl over a dozen times.

    Contrary to claims by those moonbats who claim Trump’s proper stance on immigration proves he “hates Mexicans”, this isn’t a Mexican problem, it’s an immigration law problem, specifically some aren’t obeying them and Obama isn’t enforcing them. We can argue later whether the laws need to be changed (they do – we need to start limiting immigration more than we have been since Kennedy helped screw things up). Right now enforcement and border protection are our most important issues in this group.

  23. Bodhisattva says:

    No surprise here – India is the fastest growing source of human CO2 production (fossil fuel consumption) and if it isn’t already #2 source it will be soon.

    China is #1.

  24. Bodhisattva says:

    Kanye West fakes mental illness to avoid the financial losses generated by his failure to keep contractual obligations RE: Tour.

  25. Bodhisattva says:

    Bus driver does nothing while black teens attack white schoolgirls

    Four white 15-year-old Catholic schoolgirl friends laughing and chatting on their usual bus ride home were targeted in an unprovoked, racial attack that left them bloody and bruised, the teens told The Post Wednesday.

    “Oh, white girl got money!” a young black man sitting with a friend commented as the girls travelled on the BX8 bus around 3 p.m. Tuesday after dismissal from St. Catharine’s Academy in the Pelham Gardens section of The Bronx.

    Before they knew it, the boys called up some female friends, who boarded a few stops away — and the girls said the group punched and kicked them while grabbing clumps of their hair.

    In an exclusive interview with The Post, two of the girls said the trouble began as soon as they boarded the bus to Throggs Neck — with the male riders leering at the 10th-graders and snapping their pictures.

    One of the victims, who only wants to be identified by the initials LT because the attackers are still at large, said they were in their school uniforms when the young men tried chatting with them and then threatened to “piss on them.”

  26. Bodhisattva says:

    Populist Dutch MP Geert Wilders remained unapologetic as his hate speech trial drew to a close on Wednesday, saying “millions of Dutch citizens will be convicted with me” if he is found guilty.

    “I am not a racist and my voters are neither. They are people who want their country back and who are sick and tired of not being listened to,” said Wilders, dressed in a dark blue suit and with his trademark peroxide hairdo.

    “If you convict me, you will convict half of The Netherlands,” said Wilders, who added: “Many Dutch will then lose the last bit of trust in the rule of law.”

    The firebrand far-right politician faces charges of insulting a racial group and inciting racial hatred after comments he made about Moroccans living in the Netherlands.

    Set for a verdict on December 9, the trial focuses in part on a comment made at a March 2014 local government election rally, when Wilders asked supporters whether they wanted “fewer or more Moroccans in your city and in the Netherlands”.

    When the crowd shouted back “Fewer! Fewer!” a smiling Wilders answered: “We’re going to organise that.”


  27. Bodhisattva says:

    And on the NYT, which is a pay site so I won’t give the link, the HEADLINE on the piece by Charles Blow (a black man) is “No, Trump, We Can’t Just Get Along”.

    Have it your way. We’re going to get along without you then, since you decided to exclude yourself.

  28. Bodhisattva says:

    Trump’s friend Farage taunts British PM with ‘ambassador’s reception’

    “For those that are here who aren’t particularly happy with what’s happened in 2016, I’ve got some really bad news for you: It’s going to get a bloody sight worse next year,” Farage told guests from a staircase at the Ritz to laughs and cheers.

    I’ll drink to that – and those who know me know I rarely drink!

    I did have a shot – a single shot – as Trump won.

  29. Bodhisattva says:

    Manipulating climate data right before our eyes

    If you look at raw global surface temperatures, you see the rate of increase in the early part of the 20th century is the same as what occurred from the late 1970s to the late 1990s. No one has argued the first rate of change was anything but natural. So why must the more recent warming be manmade? In addition, we saw a flat/downward trend in global temperatures from the 1940s to the 1970s and we saw, at least up until recently, another almost 20 year flat temperature period to start this century.

    So if what we are seeing are trends that are no different than in the past, why should we think it is anything but natural? We shouldn’t. In fact, any scientist should assume that nature is driving global temperatures and prove otherwise before arguing that mankind is driving our climate. One of the dirty little secrets of the alarmists is that they haven’t been able to prove that. They like to point to the correlation of rising carbon dioxide levels and temperatures as “proof”, but even a third grader knows that isn’t proof. Their climate models certainly make it look warmer, but the model forecasts are terrible, only proving that the models don’t work.

    So what is a climate alarmist to do? Well if you don’t want to fix the models, you fix the temperatures. And that is exactly what has been going on.

    Anyone who has closely followed the climate debate is familiar with the “adjustments” to the raw temperature data. What most Average Joes don’t realize is that the adjustments are almost entirely done to accomplish one thing — cool the past and warm the present.

    How did they do this? Scientists have “smoothed” regional temperatures to get better agreement between urban and rural data. But instead of adjusting city temperatures lower (because of urban heat effects) they raised rural temperatures. More recently, in order to get rid of the “pause” in temperatures, they adjusted the sea surface temperatures higher when they decided that mid-20th century temperatures taken in ship engine intakes are more accurate than the modern ocean buoys. That’s right, the technology of the 1950s with the ship engine heat influencing the data was determined to be better than the network of modern electronics uninfluenced by external heat sources. And these are only a few examples of what has been going on.

    On a more local level, between 2011 and 2013, the NOAA data set lowered annual Maine temperatures between three to five degrees in the early 1900s…and made almost no changes to recent temperatures. That “adjustment” is more than three times the actual warming we have seen.

    When you look at how temperatures have been manipulated you start to wonder if we have any idea what the global temperature is. Over the past decade or so, the keepers of the data have cooled temperatures in the pre-1910 period the equivalent of -0.52 degrees per century. They warmed temperatures from 1980 to the early part of this century by the equivalent of +0.11 degrees per century.

    Those two changes represent half the warming since 1900! And this was before the “pause buster” sea surface temperature manipulation took place.

  30. Bodhisattva says:

    “Making America great again” requires deep-sixing punitive energy and environmental rules

  31. Mr. Freemarket says:

    From your referenced article:
    “But to a striking extent, even as President Obama prepares to leave office with strong approval ratings, his policy legacy is extraordinarily vulnerable.”

    The reason that Obama’s approval ratings are “strong” is because if you don’t approve of Obama, you are a racist.

  32. Mr. Freemarket says:

    This representation of the former first lady is inaccurate in several ways…not to be picky, but….
    1. She really can’t hold her head upright.
    2. Breasts are overexagurated.
    3. Legs and thighs are much larger in real life.
    4. She is, however, mostly plumage.

    Of course no one would eat an old, stringy bird.

  33. Mr. Freemarket says:

    God bless those who defend us. Keep them safe.

  34. Mr. Freemarket says:

    And now you are going to offend Allah!!!

  35. Mr. Freemarket says:

    I know a guy who is great at fumigating old houses, too. He’s from Jersey, but he is willing to make the trip.

  36. Mr. Freemarket says:

    She’s keeping her eye on you, too.

  37. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Hate Israel all you want. When it comes to war, they still own you.

  38. Mr. Freemarket says:

    The pollsters are going to eat crow just after the Hollywood elite board their private jets bound for Canada.

  39. Torcer says:

    Keep in mind that could also be ‘Obnoxious Conservative Aunt’:

    Be That Obnoxious Conservative Uncle At Thanksgiving
    Thanksgiving is a magical time when families gather together in a traditional celebration featuring gratitude, joyous fellowship, and the cruel mockery of insufferable millennial relatives. We are also seeing the rise of a new Thanksgiving tradition: tiresome, geek-scribbled columns about how to talk to your obnoxious conservative uncle at the dinner table that pop up every year on essential millennial websites like Vox, Salon, and Perpetual Barista.

    But how about some guidance for those of us who eagerly embrace our inner obnoxious conservative uncle? Well, here are some helpful hints for when that smug tool spawned by your sister and her twitchy second husband opens up his piehole for something other than inserting pie.
    Understand His Sensitive Feelings About The Election: Hillary Clinton’s loss was a blow to many millennials, and he is likely to be emotionally fragile. You’ll want to ruthlessly exploit his pathetic weakness.

    Always refer to “President Trump” and how he will “Make America great again.” Wear a MAGA hat to the table. Mention the “eight years of the Trump administration” and to what Justices Cruz and Willet will do to get the Supreme Court squared away again. Refer to Hillary as “Prisoner No. 59875779.”

    He may try to demand that you “denounce” some dipwad pseudo-Nazi geebo you’ve never heard of in a lame ploy to buy into the latest anti-conservative media narrative. Respond that you despise all socialists – after all, “Nazi” doesn’t stand for National REPUBLICAN Worker’s Party – and ask if he’ll join you in denouncing all advocates of that hateful ideology, including Bernie Sanders. When he refuses, ask him why he loves Hitler.

    Agree that America has a terrible gun crisis – many Americans simply cannot afford to purchase the multiple firearms each citizen should own. Inform him that his opposition to your plan for “gun vouchers” to allow all Americans to take part in the defense of themselves, their families, communities and the Constitution, is “super racist” and that you support “caliber diversity.”

  40. Torcer says:

    "Tiny home" movement in west forces peasants into ramshackle hovels.Pyongyang workers live rent-free in apartments of surpassing wonder.— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News)

  41. Mr. Freemarket says:

    That there is udder destruction.

  42. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Globull Warming.

  43. Mr. Freemarket says:

    “Trump’s Climate Plan Might Not Be So Bad After All”

    Just wondering…how do you go about planning a climate?

  44. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Nice ass.

  45. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Here’s a good idea towards fixing immigration law.

    If you are from a country where terrorism is a problem, you shouldn’t come here.

  46. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Donald….don’t play with that pile of crap.

  47. Torcer says:

    The numbers are in: Trump wins Michigan by 10,704 via @freep

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  49. Jester says:

    Trey “Gunslinger” Gowdy vs. Elijah “Spray Paint Can” Cummings!

  50. TED says:

    Just call HAZMAT and move on…

  51. TED says:


  52. TED says:

    She wasn’t using them anyway!

  53. TED says:

    Yah, NOT holding breath! They would have to have morals to do that…

  54. TED says:

    He’ll have to be REALLY GOOD after OBOZO! Better than the one after the last Clinton.

  55. TED says:

    Agree! 😎

  56. Bodhisattva says:

    It’s more of a plan to respond to what the climate does, since what the climate does is beyond our control.

    Actually I was surprised at the article as I had thought Lomborg had, at one time, made sense with his approach. Apparently not any more.

  57. Bodhisattva says:

    True. I once saw a bit, I think it was from a movie a long time ago. It was a news bit that showed a map of Israel, showing it expanding each time it was attacked. The map showed it owning pretty much all of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, etc.

    Or something like that.

  58. Mr. Freemarket says:

    The last time Egypt went to war against Israel, the Israelis destroyed the Egyptian Air Force in about a day. After that, all those Egyptian tanks weren’t of much use.

    And then the US and other countries cut Israel off from receiving arms from other countries. So Israel developed the Uzi.

    Israel has produced many scientists who have received Nobel prizes. It is a mistake to go to war against smart people.

  59. Mr. Freemarket says:

    “It’s more of a plan to respond to what the climate does, since what the climate does is beyond our control.
    Yes, I was mocking the loose use of the English language.

    BTW, I have a climate plan, too. It consists of three propane tanks, a Milwaukee heated jacket, and gloves.

  60. Bodhisattva says:

    You may have heard of a book called “The Bell Curve”.

    It was written by a couple of white guys.

    So, naturally, the left considers it to be bigoted, racist and, once the science it presented was revealed, they quickly created, out of whole cloth, a bunch of “science” that said otherwise.

    For those who HAVE NOT heard of the book, it’s basic thesis was that there is a detectable genetic-linked bias in intelligence.

    And of course what upset liberals was that Whites turn out to be, AS A GROUP, smarter, SLIGHTLY, than certain “people of color”, those being both blacks and Hispanics.

    There is overlap. That is not to say ALL whites are smarter than ALL those of the other groups. It’s just that when you plot any large enough number of members of the three groups, the bell curves that result don’t line up.

    You can see why liberals would call this racist and bigoted due to their lack of acceptance of reality and the science which proves this.

    But if it’s about wanting to claim whites are the smartest, as the real racists and bigots suggest, perhaps they should have read the book first, before opening their mouths.

    It turns out Jews are smarter, as a group, than caucasians.

    And that’s not all.

    Asians are smarter, as a group, than both.

    They tried to measure the intelligence of arabs, so called “palestinians”, but the test subjects kept shouting ALLUAH AKHBAR! And blowing themselves up.

  61. Bodhisattva says:

    Yeah and look when they released the results – when nobody would be paying attention. I noticed them Thursday, the next day.

  62. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Allah does not approve of intelligence tests. And he certainly doesn’t approve of Asians.

    BTW, most of the time folks from Polynesia are lumped in with the Asians from Asia, so as to skew the results down a bit.

  63. Bodhisattva says:

    What? Doesn’t approve of Asians?

    What about AfA?

    (Asians for Allah)

  64. Mr. Freemarket says:

    It sounds to me like you are mocking Allah. Be prepared for a visit from your local MFMs (Missonaries For Mohammed…peace be upon him). They will set you straight.

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