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Jan 01 2017

Open Thread

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Via Patton Gunn.




88 Responses to “Open Thread”

  1. Good Stuff says:

    Happy New Year!

    GOODSTUFFs BLOGGING MAGAZINE (274th Issue)

    Closing out this horrendous year with a tremendous meta blog post. Where Tara Reid s notorious boobs lead some spurious Arctic climate change reporting

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-42BcTxZxE7c/WGTJ7k9v28I/AAAAAAAAHUs/HTyMb0PAGcET_QZ6llhNaVrEtTIlVZ_zwCLcB/s1600/Tara-Reid-13.jpg

  2. murraydad says:

    Hehe.

  3. Torcer says:

    It’s time for an intervention for the nation’s socialist left, Part III
    This is Part III of a three party series. Read the first part here and the 2nd part here.

    For those of you scientifically minded [And leftist lore decrees this is always the case with you folks]. We should apply the scientific method to the functionality of your base ideology as a test of efficacy.

    The experiment of Socialism has been run in myriad places and conditions for 500 years with the same result each time: Epic Failure (to the tune of Millions dead and oppressed in most cases). Thus, to be truly scientific about the situation, one must reject the hypothesis and the basic concepts of Socialism. And we all know how you folks on the nation’s socialist Left take pride in being scientifically minded, right?
    So isn’t it time for you people to reject these failed ideas from 500 years ago?

    You can spare me the protestations that your national party isn’t Socialist, that red train left the station years ago. This truth was most certainly cemented in the people’s minds with your flirtation with Socialist Bernie Sanders as a possible nominee. That and the fact that there is little difference between your national agenda and that of the Marxists, Communists and every other fellow traveler on the block.

    You people on the Left love to play your little word games to deceive people as to who you truly are. Someone is a “liberal” one year and a “progressive” the next, and who knows what deceptive label you will apply to yourselves in the future.

    Even your attempts at escaping this epic failure, pretending that randomly selected nations are somehow socialist, emphasizes its inability to function. The adage that it’s the dosage that makes the poison comes to us from the science of chemistry and pharmacology. In this case the poison is the amount of your base ideology present in a society such that the higher this dosage of socialism, the higher the detrimental effects.
    [Side note – you ideology has killed Millions over the years, so spare me the hysterics for daring to compare your base ideology to poison ]

    Becoming a viable political movement once again
    Unfortunately, you are politically inveterate with regard to solving the problem. You seem to think that you only have two options – easing off the Marxist mantra or doubling down. And, it would seem that rejecting the wiles of collectivist thought is tantamount to heresy amongst your comrades. Thus, you think your only option is to insanely double down on decline.
    So here is your 12 step program (well, it’s really just 8 but you get the picture)
    1. Eliminate any and all vestiges of Socialism. This is THE most important step in your recovery.
    2. Purge those within your ranks that still cling to the worn-out and deadly ideology of Socialism. In other words, get rid of the Reds.
    3. Espouse the mankind enhancing liberty of the free-market whenever and wherever you can. On a sincere basis instead of just playing word games.
    4. Reject the shackling of business with tons of onerous regulation and taxes.
    5. Get rid of the ‘watermelons’ and their Global Cooling… err… global warming… err… Climate change scam. Most likely they were the Reds ejected previously, but you never know.. The tend to hide their true nature behind Gaia worship and weird “ecosexual” tendencies.
    6. Stand up for individual freedom and liberty. Keeping in mind that the world’s smallest minority is the individual.
    7. Embrace the government limiting precepts of the founding documents. These new ideas (in comparison to yours of ½ a millennia ago) protect the individual against the onslaught of the collective.
    This is also the reason behind American greatness and exceptionalism – but don’t let that stop you from supporting them.
    8. Did I mention that rejecting the 500-year-old ideas of Socialism?
    Those who cannot accept the newer ideas of freedom and liberty can tottle off and form their own decrepit and soon to be extinct party embracing old ideas. They can all join a fringe national party imbued with the severely discredited concepts of socialism.

    Were you to do these things, freedom would be enhanced and you would be in serious competition for the liberty loving space currently occupied by the right.
    Better yet, why don’t you forget all I said and keep going the way you have.. it should do something for you sometime… look how it’s working in ‘Utopia’ after all.
    http://thenewamericana.com/2016/12/29/time-intervention-nations-socialist-left-part-iii/

  4. Torcer says:

    Newt’s biggest fear is that Trump will CAVE to the left http://therightscoop.com/newts-biggest-fear-trump-will-cave-left/

    Report: Trump likes Schumer more than GOP leaders
    http://thehill.com/homenews/312368-trump-told-schumer-he-likes-him-more-than-ryan-mcconnell

    Donna Brazile Says Trump Should Give the Democrats What They Want | RedState http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017/01/01/donna-brazile-says-trump-should-give-the-democrats-what-they-want/

  5. Torcer says:

    2016 Man of the Year: Castro’s Death Jeep
    People around the world rejoiced and celebrated in November as news spread that Cuba’s former dictator Fidel Castro had died at age 90.

    However, many American journalists hailed Castro as a “fiery apostle,” a “spiritual beacon,” a model “of wit and clarity,” and someone defined by “huge personal charm and charisma, and his political genius,” the Washington Free Beacon previously reported.

    While the media will most likely gloss over Castro’s atrocities in Cuba and reflect on his life in a positive light, it is important that people around the world know the truth and learn about the real hero of 2016: Castro’s death jeep.

    On the eighth day of Cuba bidding their goodbyes to Castro, the military jeep that was carrying Castro’s ashes broke down. As a result, Cuban soldiers had no choice but to push the jeep down the road near Moncada Fort in Santiago, Cuba as mourners lined the streets on both sides to take pictures of the jeep as it passed.

    For helping demonstrate the fundamental absurdity of Castro’s Cuba in the most amusingly ironic way possible, the Washington Free Beacon is pleased to name Castro’s Death Jeep a man of the year.
    http://freebeacon.com/men-of-the-year/2016-man-year-castros-death-jeep/

  6. Bodhisattva says:

    Moonbat meltdown – that will teach her to lip sync.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2512447/mariah-carey-suffers-onstage-meltdown-during-disastrous-new-years-eve-show-as-she-botches-her-lip-syncing-and-storms-off/

    Mariah Carey suffers onstage meltdown during disastrous New Year’s Eve show as she botches her lip-syncing and storms off
    Superstar singer’s show in Times Square was ruined by a lip-sync glitch

  7. Bodhisattva says:

    Zuckerberg gets religion? No, actually he just never quite finished losing it, apparently:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/12/30/mark-zuckerberg-says-hes-no-longer-an-atheist-believes-religion-is-very-important/?utm_term=.e64206d151e7

    On Christmas Day, Zuckerberg indicated in a Facebook status that he was “celebrating Christmas.”

    “Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah from Priscilla, Max, Beast and me,” he wrote, naming his wife, daughter and dog. Then a commenter asked him: Aren’t you an atheist?

    Zuckerberg identified himself as an atheist for years, but on Facebook on Christmas he wrote back: “No. I was raised Jewish and then I went through a period where I questioned things, but now I believe religion is very important.”

    And on the same topic:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/05/04/the-man-billed-as-the-first-atheist-bound-for-congress-isnt-actually-an-atheist-at-all/?utm_term=.84764178f7b8

    The man billed as the first atheist who could be bound for Congress isn’t actually an atheist at all.

    The day after Jamie Raskin won his intensely competitive primary, a humanist political action committee that backed him sent a proud email blast.

    “If successful in the general election, Raskin will be the only open nontheist serving in the U.S. Congress,” the email said. The Huffington Post quickly published an article headlined, “Congress Likely To Get Its Only Openly Atheist Member in November.”

    The only problem? Raskin is Jewish. “One hundred percent Jewish.” “Emphatically Jewish.” A member of the District’s Temple Sinai and a father of three children who had bar and bat mitzvahs, Raskin says he has never told anyone is he an atheist.

    The above was BEFORE the general election… UPDATE:

    On November 8, 2016, Raskin won the election as the Democratic candidate to represent Maryland’s 8th congressional district in the U.S. House of Representatives.

  8. Mr. Freemarket says:

    Van Jones returns to his communist roots.
    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/01/01/cnn-commentator-the-clinton-days-are-over/
    “Jones, who was formerly a part of President Barack Obama’s administration, went on to explain that he believes the politics of Sens. Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Sen.-elect Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn) — which can be characterized as extremely progressive and socialistic — is the future of the Democratic Party.”

    In other words, the democrats can steal more from the American workers.

  9. Beverlymmercier says:

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  10. Bodhisattva says:

    And the further down that road they go, the less relevant they will be, as their base FINALLY started to realize this election cycle.

  11. Bodhisattva says:

    Chalk up another total and absurd failure to the Obama administration – hey, why spoil a perfect record!

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/01/01/russian-hacking-white-house-fail/

    White House Fails to Make Case that Russian Hacking Tampered with Election

    Someone posted – I think it was on the last open thread – something about them now shifting the blame to China, since they failed to make a case against Russia…

  12. Bodhisattva says:

    Rules for Righties — a War-Winning Manifesto for 2017

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/01/2016-just-start-going-win-2017/

    Never underestimate the wickedness of the enemy.

    Remember that we are better than them – no matter how many times they feel the need to reassure themselves, by telling us, how much smarter they are, better they are, and doggone it, people like them!

    Take the fight to the enemy, not cower in No Man’s Land. This is something that many have mentioned in this very space (MOONBATTERY) many times over the last 8 years as spineless Republicans (and RINOs) failed to stand up.

    Never apologize, never explain, never surrender – just do what has to be done, then move on. Mistakes will be made, some things won’t work out as planned, but don’t wallow in the past. If it breaks, fix it, THEN move on.

    Laugh in the face of death.

    Mercilessly expose their weaknesses. Make sure they know we know who and what they are, no matter how many times they feel the need to reassure themselves, by telling us, how much smarter they are, better they are, and doggone it, people like them! Are you beginning to see a theme here?

    Leave no man behind. The reason Sowell’s great and Milo’s great and Krauthammer’s great is not because they’re black and gay and disabled and therefore “helpful” to our cause, but simply because they think clearly and sensibly and have come to the right conclusions about the world. Don’t get hung up on imperfections – everyone, including Trump, has them.

    Always attack. You win chess – and wars – by already knowing what your opponent CAN do and by being there BEFORE he gets there with a good OFFENSE to counter their move.

  13. Bodhisattva says:

    There is a theory, r/K Selection Theory, that explains why we have two political ideologies, why productive societies will inevitably decay into immoral cesspools of failure and then collapse, and why we will inevitably rise again.

    http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/home-page/

  14. Bodhisattva says:

    Migrant Stabs Christian Woman Because She Was Reading Bible

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/01/migrant-stabs-christian-woman-reading-bible/

    An Afghan migrant attacked a woman at an asylum centre in Austria because she was reading a bible.
    The attack took place in the town on Timelkam in the state of Upper Austria. The attacker was a 22-year-old migrant from Afghanistan who became annoyed that the 50-year-old woman had been invited by Christian residents to read the bible.

    Austrian paper Kronen Zeitung says he ran into the kitchen where the woman was talking and attempted to stab her in her upper body. Her thick winter coat protected from serious harm, however she fell and injured her ear due the force of the blow.

    Police arrived at the scene and arrested the migrant. He admitted he had overreacted, although he told police this was due to “personal problems”. He also stated that he had never seen the woman before the attack.

    There have been numerous incidents of Christians coming under attack in migrant centres across Europe.

  15. EVERYDAY PRESIDENT ☆ ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ says:

    .
    To all the neverTrumpistologists: Here is what we avoided by
    ..VOTING FOR AMERICA BY VOTING FOR TRUMP:

    http://pi-news.net/wp/uploads/2017/01/image-768×537.jpeg

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!
    .

  16. EVERYDAY PRESIDENT ☆ ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ says:

    .
    Who cares what Newt fears! He who sat with Nasty Pelousy in a GloBULL Warming commercial? As far as Upchuck Schumer is concerned, Trump is putting him in a bear hug. I can guarantee you, The Donald knows where all of Chuckie’s skeletons are buried. He’s just got to make it look good for the Dhims when Chuckie starts to toe the line..
    .

  17. Bodhisattva says:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/741773/video-migrants-storm-spanish-enclave-over-border-fence-ceuta

    Organized, violent migrant mob storms Spanish border.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/749224/Aden-Adde-International-Airport-Mogadishu-Somalia-Gunfire-Huge-Blast

    Huge twin blasts and GUNFIRE heard at Aden Adde International Airport, in the Somalian capital Mogadishu. You may recall Somalia was the location of BLACKHAWK DOWN.

    These are the people Obama has been importing HERE for some years now.

  18. Bodhisattva says:

    The logical consequence of just letting anyone in, as Obama has been doing:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4079688/Ben-Wallace-MP-warns-ISIS-plotting-mass-casualty-chemical-attack-Britain.html

    ISIS is plotting ‘mass casualty’ chemical attack on Britain, warns minister as he calls on citizens to help identify ‘the enemy within’

  19. Bodhisattva says:

    OK first, it’s a Waffle House…

    http://times-herald.com/news/2016/12/waitress-sacked-for-shot-over-robbers

    A local waitress who fired her gun over the heads of three fleeing robbers (the story FALSELY claimed she fired AT them) is now out of a job.

    Heather “Shorty” Burkinshaw-Stanley learned Friday by phone that she was terminated from her job at Waffle House a day after the restaurant was robbed.

    “I wasn’t sure if they were coming back or not,” she said Friday afternoon following her dismissal. “I was in fear for my life, my co-workers’ lives, and I did what I thought was right.”

    Stanley had worked at the Waffle House at 1363 S. Highway 29 for almost two years. A video about the incident can be accessed on times-herald.com.

    Thursday’s incident comes in the wake of a surge in robberies at Newnan-area Waffle Houses. A restaurant on Highway 154 at Interstate 85 was robbed twice in one month this fall.

  20. Bodhisattva says:

    Moonbats be at it:

    http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20170101/la-wakes-up-to-some-surprise-new-years-vandalism-with-hollyweed-sign

    LA wakes up to some surprise New Year’s vandalism with ‘Hollyweed’ sign

  21. Bodhisattva says:

    FAKE NEWS 1:

    http://nypost.com/2017/01/01/washington-post-retracts-story-about-russian-hack-at-vermont-utility/

    Washington Post retracts story about Russian hack at Vermont utility

    FAKE NEWS 2:

    http://nypost.com/2017/01/01/obamas-closest-adviser-says-president-has-been-scandal-free/

    Obama’s closest adviser says president has been scandal-free

    FAKE NEWS and a BALD FACED LIE – I don’t remember a President who had AS MANY scandals.

    “The president prides himself on the fact that his administration hasn’t had a scandal and he hasn’t done something to embarrass himself,” Jarrett said in an interview broadcast on CNN Sunday.

    YEAH?

    http://thefederalistpapers.integratedmarket.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/stick.jpg

    http://www.nowtheendbegins.com//wp-content/uploads/2014/03/obama-kerry-draw-another-red-pink-line-russia-putin-ukraine.jpg

    http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/10/11-obama-golf-2.w529.h370.2x.jpg

    http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/9559cb9734ff2c4c93772338ea99264036daf0de/r=x1803&c=3200×1800/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/02/19/obama-golf-2-19-16_9.jpg

    http://magazine.foxnews.com/sites/magazine.foxnews.com/files/styles/1600_image/public/ObamaSarkozyGirlReuters.JPG

    http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/49000/Hillary-Clinton-Kissing-Obama–49460.jpg

    http://nypost.com/2016/12/27/the-embarrassing-moment-that-almost-led-obama-to-quit-politics/

    Obama, then an Illinois state senator, was down in the dumps that year after he was trounced in his first shot at federal office, losing a congressional Democratic primary to incumbent Bobby Rush, 59 percent to 39 percent.

    He was also running low on cash, having spent much of his own money on that losing campaign, Obama told the “The Axe Files” podcast.

    A Democratic Party pal then invited him out to the 2000 DNC in Los Angeles, thinking that’d cheer him up and recharge his batteries, according to Obama.

    The La La Land visit was anything but a cheery experience.

    “I fly out there on whatever connecting flight that was the cheapest and get to the rent-a-car place and present my credit card and the credit card is rejected — no more money,” the outgoing president laughed. “I had to make a couple of calls to engineer, somehow, to rent this car.”

    Then, after the rental car snafu, Obama found that the DNC pass his pal scored didn’t get him on the floor so he couldn’t see a thing, much less Al Gore’s nomination that year at the Staples Center.

    “I get to the hotel where my friend is ready to go and we go over to the convention and they give me the pass that basically only allows you to be in the halls,” Obama recalled. “The ring around the auditorium doesn’t actually allow you to see anything.”

    And then when he tried getting into DNC after-parties with his friend, bouncers told Obama to scram.

  22. Bodhisattva says:

    So much for strict gun control:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-two-shot-to-death-in-uptown-marks-first-homicide-of-2017-20170101-story.html

    CHICAGO: 2016 ends with 762 homicides; 2017 opens with fatal Uptown gunfight

  23. Bodhisattva says:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/former-chicago-top-cop-black-lives-matter-killing-blacks/article/2610687

    Black Lives Matter killing blacks

    McCarthy said that the movement was responsible for a rise in “noncompliance” — people refusing to cooperate or surrender to police.

    “What is happening is — and this is ironic — that a movement with the goal of saving black lives is at this point is getting black lives taken because 80 percent of our murder victims here in Chicago are male blacks,” McCarthy told New York radio talk show host John Catsimatidis.

  24. Bodhisattva says:

    UPDATE:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4080326/Was-Mariah-Carey-s-Times-Square-performance-sabotaged-ratings.html

    Was Mariah Carey SABOTAGED for ratings? Diva singer’s aides claim faulty earpiece caused Times Square lip-sync disaster – and accuse TV execs of disabling equipment on PURPOSE
    The superstar singer became flustered on stage and stormed off after her opening song was ruined by a glitch
    ‘Trying to be a good sport here,’ Mariah said as the problem continued throughout her two-song performance
    Her earpiece – which she needed to hear the backing track over the crowd – wasn’t working, sources claim
    She had been repeatedly asking for it to be fixed right up until the show was set to start, they say
    But those sources say she was told it would work once she was up on stage – and then claim it did not
    Insiders claim that the whole thing was a set-up by producers who wanted ‘Mariah drama’
    Carey complained during the live set, before saying: ‘I wanted a holiday too, can’t I just have one’
    Mariah later tried to brush off the disaster, writing ‘s**t happens’ in an Instagram post after the set
    Dick Clark Productions branded claims they would ‘intentionally compromise’ an artist as ‘defamatory, outrageous and frankly absurd’
    It capped off a checkered year for the hit-maker after her engagement to billionaire James Packer ended

  25. Bodhisattva says:

    I’m tellin’ ya, they got a culture of death and will kill their own children due to it:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/10-old-girl-used-human-bomb-nigeria-years-115733193.html

    One person was seriously injured when a suicide bomber aged around 10 blew herself up in a New Year’s Eve attack in the northeastern Nigerian city of Maiduguri, witnesses and aid workers told AFP Sunday.

    The girl approached a crowd buying noodles from a food vendor in the Customs area of the city around 9:30 pm on Saturday and detonated her explosives, they said.

    Although no one has claimed responsibility the attack bore the hallmark of Boko Haram Islamists who are notorious for using suicide bombers, mostly women and young girls, in attacking civilian targets.

    “The girl walked towards the crowd but she blew up before she could reach her target,” said witness Grema Usman who lives in the area.

    “She died instantly, while one person was seriously hurt after after he was hit by shrapnel.”

    “(Judging) from her corpse the girl was around 10 years old,” Usman said.

    An aid worker involved in the evacuation of the body gave a similar estimate of the bomber’s age.

    “The girl was clearly not more than 10 and this could have made her too nervous, making her to detonate the explosives prematurely,” the aid worker suggested.

    Borno state police spokesman Victor Isuku, meanwhile, said a second female suicide bomber was caught and lynched by an angry mob. Her bomb was safely detonated by security forces, he said.

  26. Bodhisattva says:

    http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/kkk-leaders-allege-producers-paid-them-to-fake-scenes-in-canceled-ae-documentary-exclusive-1201950078/

    KKK Leaders Allege Producers Paid Them to Fake Scenes in Canceled A&E Documentary (EXCLUSIVE)

    The subjects of a TV documentary series about the Ku Klux Klan abruptly canceled last week by A&E allege to Variety that significant portions of what was filmed were fabricated by the producers.

    Some KKK leaders divulged that they were paid hundreds of dollars in cash each day of filming to compel them on camera to distort the facts of their lives to fit the documentary’s predetermined narrative: tension between Klan members and relatives of theirs who wanted to get out of the Klan.

    The findings are based on an exclusive Variety investigation based on interviews with over two dozen individuals in and around the KKK who cooperated with the documentary in at least six U.S. states.

    Originally scheduled to air Jan. 10, “Escaping the KKK: A Documentary Series Exposing Hate in America” was produced by Venice, Calif.-based production company This Is Just a Test.

    The KKK leaders who were interviewed by Variety detailed how they were wooed with promises the program would capture the truth about life in the organization; encouraged not to file taxes on cash payments for agreeing to participate in the filming; presented with pre-scripted fictional story scenarios; instructed what to say on camera; asked to misrepresent their actual identities, motivations and relationships with others, and re-enacted camera shoots repeatedly until the production team was satisfied.

    The production team even paid for material and equipment to construct and burn wooden crosses and Nazi swastikas, according to multiple sources including Richard Nichols, who is one of the featured subjects of the documentary series as the Grand Dragon of a KKK cell known as the Tennessee White Knights of the Invisible Empire. He also said he was encouraged by a producer to use the epithet “nigger” in interviews.

    “We were betrayed by the producers and A&E,” said Nichols. “It was all made up—pretty much everything we said and did was fake and because that is what the film people told us to do and say.”

  27. chuck_in_st_paul says:

    I LOVE the graphic!!!

  28. chuck_in_st_paul says:

    as far as I’m concerned, lip sync is for incompetents. I don’t pay for fakes.

  29. EVERYDAY PRESIDENT ☆ ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ says:

    .
    Now in EASTERN Poland!!! More EU-imposed islam..

    More than 250 rioters SMASH kebab shop after ‘group of Arab men stab young local to death’

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/749189/Polish-rioters-smash-kebab-shop-arab-men-stab-young-local-Elk-male

    .

  30. Kevcar says:

    Breitbarf

  31. Kevcar says:

    I guess we will see.

  32. EVERYDAY PRESIDENT ☆ ᵀᴿᵁᴹᴾ says:

    .

    So they had “less” rapes in Cologne than last year’s ONE THOUSAND PLUS.

    Yaaaayyyy!!!

    At the same time isIam SUCCESSFULLY SHUT DOWN both Christmas and New Year’s in most of Europe west of Poland.

    The German Green Party hags prefer their mooseleeembehs running wild becuase one look and you can see they ain’t gettin’ none from German men:

    http://www.mimikama.at/allgeme

    Want to know what the treasonous BlTCH wrote in that tweet?

    Fasten your seatbelts, people:

    “You can evaluate the incidents at the Cologne train station as a cry for help all refugees because they feel sexually marginalized by German women”

    .

  33. Torcer says:

    What about the other items?

  34. TrueConservative says:

    Please make sure your favorite Hollyweird lunatic leftist knows about this GREAT OFFER…..

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8646162ceaf6c9fce812a79e44b02f25ca6d4c66b2da358a2e8d52395c01b78d.jpg

  35. TED says:

    http://i.imgur.com/D52opoI.jpg LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

  36. TED says:

    http://i.imgur.com/qOrXJmt.jpg That WOULD be the ONLY way to get the SMELL OUT!!

  37. SNuss says:

    Criminals don’t obey anti-gun laws, but they do like them, because strict gun control disarms law-abiding citizens.

  38. Bodhisattva says:

    Strict gun control creates a target rich environment full of easy victims.

    There, fixed it for you.

  39. Bodhisattva says:

    I take it you’re not a fan.

    I’m more concerned with the quality of the information than the source.

  40. Bodhisattva says:

    Agreed.

    I understand the logic behind it. As one gets older one’s abilities do fade. If you do a lot of drinking and drugs your mind sometimes does go a bit and you can’t match your previous best performance level.

    But, like you, if I’m paying, it better be live and direct, not pre-recorded. However, as one act found at the last San Diego Superbowl (37), that can have disastrous consequences. Gwen Stefani went horribly off key. Not sure why, Shania Twain and Sting didn’t seem to have any problems.

  41. Kevcar says:

    Happy New year to you. You are correct in your assessment. After all, the source must always be considered when determining the quality of the information. The two are intimately linked. I’m afraid since the passing of Andrew, the quality of the information provided at the site reminds me of a snowball rolling down a mountain. There may be a tiny grain of truth at the dead center but it’s been so buried by layers of garbage as to be unrecognizable. BTW, I always enjoy your posts. Thank you for taking the time to do so.

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  43. Bodhisattva says:

    I see your point. When a leader falls that which he led often goes astray.

    Thanks for the compliment. I sometimes cringe when I read some of my posts after I’ve made them, actually.

    Did I say that?

    And sometimes it’s, “Did I say that out loud?”

  44. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer Schooled by Ed. G. Mann

    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (02/19/2016) You are sounding like the token liberal troll for this site. Extract some part of a comment and twist the meaning.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (02/22/2016) Who is the idiot that ever let you near a keyboard? Do you EVER read the entire comment written AND can you understand what what was written? So far you haven’t evinced any possibility of any of the above being true.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (02/22/2016) I don’t know how old you are but you have a hell of a lot of living and learning to do AND not much damn time to do it.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (02/29/2016) You have all the replies you’re getting. All your answers are contained within previous comments.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (03/01/2016) I didn’t think you were that stupid. You insist on proving it. Can you read and comprehend? Try it, if necessary, say the words out loud. It might help.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (03/02/2016) After going through how many iterations of explanations of my position, I find it fruitless to involve you in further discussions. You see things only in black and white; the world is in shades of gray. Far more nuanced than you’re capable of perceiving. So here’s the final response. You have received all the responses you deserve and will ever get. Ta-ta.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (03/09/2016) As I said elsewhere, you have all the answers you’re going to get. Satisfied or not, I don’t care.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (03/23/2016) Torcer, you exhibit all the thought processes of an idiot. From where did you copy those talking points? Don’t tell me you made them up; they’re far to brainless. Or maybe not.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (03/23/2016) That would be invective if I were simply name calling. I wasn’t; I was stating a fact which takes that from the ad hominem usage to a proper and correct posit.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (03/23/2016) You really are mindless. Ah, what the hell, it is fun to keep tossing you straws just to watch you grasp them as you fall farther into that gray stupor. At least Bernie’s people believe in the ‘Radiant Future’.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (03/31/2016) I received a batch of e-mails concerning the back and forth twixt us. you really don’t fare well. you ask, get answers and when you don’t like the answers get into a snit. Typical of a closet liberal.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (03/31/2016) Most of the people here now consider you to be a closet Liberal troll. You certainly give them enough reason to believe this. Lose the Che shit too. That is sooooo old.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (03/31/2016) Oh what petulance. From a mushwit no less. Your attempts to ring the bell on the mental meter isn’t getting any accolades.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (04/01/2016) I’m not going through any of your tweets. I don’t care, but I guess you have a problem understanding some part of those three words. Here, I’ll space them out, make it easier to read. I…don’t…care!
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (04/06/2016) Damn, you’re as dense as Ted. Not achieving those absolute majorities means Cruz HAS not gained the support of the people either. The majority is against Cruz too – do you understand that? Or is that too much for you to comprehend. If one then both.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/03/2016) Torcer, you ARE a loser. If you had a life you wasted it. Back to your troglodyte existence. No more wasted time with you. If you think you won, no one fucking cares.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/03/2016) You are babbling. You just proved you couldn’t understand the posited comment. Stop with the fifth grade crap and don’t bother replying. I’m going to watch the primary returns on Fox Business News. Why they might show Cruz crucifying himself, with if we’re lucky, with the assistance of Beck.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/03/2016) Childish ad hominem? Did you think that up all by yourself or cut and paste it from someone else’s comment? Roll your pant cuffs up, the crap is getting quite deep.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/03/2016) The only ones the really know and never ask are my fellow members in the VFW and the DAV. To you I have to prove nothing. I imagine you never served, otherwise you wouldn’t have questioned. That is a sure give away for those that avoided service. What details could you understand since you’re not old enough to know about that war through experience. If you want to know about such things, not vicariously, sign up and ruck up. Put your ass in the dirt and find out.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/03/2016) You really are dense. Didn’t think it was possible for someone to exist, actually survive and not grasp reality. you prove that it is.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/09/2016) Why are you being a pest!
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/09/2016) Nope, I expect the fools to abstain and by virtue of that abstention, cast those votes for Hillary. A non vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary. See if you are smart enough to figure that out. I answered it above in case it’s too tough for you.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/10/2016) you took a statement out of context and used it to try to prove a point. How very Progressive of you. Perhaps you are a closet liberal.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/11/2016) Every President you ever voted for or against advocated the devaluation of the dollar. Getting smug about that makes you look like a fool. Obviously, you didn’t read anything more that I wrote. Probably to difficult for you to understand. Or did you want to do what the liberal press does and take a section out of context to prove your small point.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/11/2016) The first statement is fact. So is the second. That you chose to take out of context what I wrote is precisely what the Proggy press does. I have yo believe you can’t understand it otherwise you would have kept the statement together. You also might want to find out what vitriol really means. since I never used any unless claiming you didn’t understand something is vitriol in your universe… It is no wonder people have difficulty communicating with you.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/12/2016) You have been all over the place with this. Have you ever seen a mental health professional? You seem to have a difficult time holding on to reality. Try this. Go back and copy down the statement in its entirety, then tell me below that where in hell I said what you are postulating? Then get the statement about ALL the other Presidents both R and D that have had the same policies, with the exception of Obama, who is trying to destroy this Country.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/16/2016) Damn, I’m having a hard time seeing the screen. I’m laughing so hard my eyes are tearing up. where do you get these stupid assed ideas?
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/16/2016) Nothing you can say changes the fact that YOU LOST. Forget straw man arguments, forget the National socialist leftist of a Bernie run. forget anything you can say. It’s over go toss your stones where you like. Try tossing them at the Flawless one, the Loser from Texas with the never to be VP. You don’t get to write the history, losers never do.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/16/2016) Dull hackneyed tripe doesn’t cut anything. In the battle of wits, you better find some weapons.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/17/2016) You are just being a pest and really have nothing to say.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/18/2016) You are truly delusional. That opening sentence proves that. If the Conservatives had ANY power, enough votes, then Cruz would be the nominee. The current arrangement belies the power of the Conservatives.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/19/2016) Coingrats. You won the Kewpie doll for being the most boring. You already won for being the most inane.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/19/2016) Same answer here, i didn’t bother to open the link. No interest in a loser’s babble.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/19/2016) Haven’t you figured out that you have lost, not for just now but for all time. The body politic changed and left you behind. Trump is up in the polls nationally ahead of Clinton, in the Fox, NY Times and the NBC pols for today. No matter what you say, write or rewrite, you aren’t eviscerating anyone. All you are doing is trying to soothe your damaged ego. You lost because Cruz’s political agenda was rejected by the American voter and America. About 178 days and the Never Trump bunch are tossed in the dustbin of history.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/19/2016) I gathered up a bunch of your comments, stripped off your slug and posted them on another site for comments. The responses were quite unbelievable. They couldn’t believe someone actually wrote these, they thought I was making them up. So I told them where to find them without telling them who wrote them. Let them see what this site was about in it’s delusion. A couple of them knew of this site, others didn’t, now do. Most of those individuals wanted to know why you aren’t committed for observation.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/19/2016) You lost. What you have now is nothing more than a dented ego. Keep dreaming about eviscerating someone. You can’t cut hot butter.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/20/2016) I’m not even bothering to click on the link. No interest in your inanity.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/24/2016) Why didn’t all YOU LOSERS get together and vote for one person? Then YOU would have been in the true majority instead of adding up the numbers and saying SEE, we’re the majority. Go buy a beer so you can cry in it. You lost. Trump is within 50 delegates of the 1237 number. UP YOUR NOSE.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/24/2016) Again the point is that Trump is in the majority of the pack. The rest LOST!
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (05/27/2016) It is funny, isn’t it LOSER.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/02/2016) Looks like EVERYBODY is abandoning you. Breathing the air of freedom does that for people. Damn! You look really small in the rear view mirror.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/02/2016) Now I understand. Yesterday Ryan was a hero; today he’s a RINO. How convenient a change to occur just as he announces, What timing.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/06/2016) Every time you open your pie hole, you prove you are a Hillary plant. No one but a Hillary sycophant could be as stupid as you.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/12/2016) Making that up as you go along, are you? The article you read did say they weren’t sure if Trump would need their help. Not nice to make stuff up and then call it true; that is what the Progs do. From that comes Frank VanderSloot’s comment, “Who knows if he’ll need our money?” VanderSloot, a billionaire, is backing Trump and will donate if asked.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/12/2016) That is the biggest crock of camel piss you ever scribbled. It wasn’t Trump that had problems by himself, but all of Atlantic City due to the opening of the casinos in Connecticut and upstate NY. Those openings cut the bus travel time for the seniors by more than half and the Indian casinos could offer tax free cigarettes, booze and better odds. They were newer and they didn’t have the heavy hand of the Government “helping” them run the enterprises. I’m sure the Times is an impeccable source of truth and light for all your Conservative news. Strange that I never saw you quote them for anything about Cruz or Rubio. Why?
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/12/2016) I’m not going o explain his actions to you or anyone. Trump is the Nominee and you cannot un-lose. Stop wasting everyone’s time.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/12/2016) Hope you’re wearing high water pants because your bullshit is really getting deep. You’re going to need a snorkel in another four sentences.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/12/2016) OK, here’s the explanation. Your man lost and you can’t get over it. From all accounts, you will be doing this in 2018. There you go. Now why don’t you do something useful!
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/12/2016) No, that’s all you get and deserve. All you do is waste space. The voters have spoken and they are NOT listening to you. There’s a hint for you.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/20/2016) Hey stupid, since when go you vote for President nationally? The votes that matter are state votes and the polls that show Trump doing fine are the ones in PA, FL and OH; all states that are must win to be elected. He is also doing well in CA much to everyone’s surprise. Those national polls you tout are from Jeff Bezos, the WaPo Trump hater and if you believe media releases, you’ll believe your own press releases. Probably do anyway, given the crap you dig up. Decomposing bodies smell better.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/20/2016) How would you know what is happening? All you’re quoting are the newsies. Why don’t you just stick to MSNBC for your accuracy. WaPo indeed, next will be the NY Times. In your case Stupid isn’t an ad hominem attack; it’s a statement of fact. Stop acting like an fool and I’ll not call you one. There aren’t any states turning anywhere Red or Blue, except in the leftist leaning tripe you read and quote.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/20/2016) Don’t screw with me, you don’t know a mean from a median and even if your name was Quasimodo, you couldn’t find a Bell Curve. Where did you go to college and what courses did you take requiring you to take stats. Back in the late ’50’s and early ’60’s those courses were given in private high schools. I took stats there and then again in college for the Botany courses. So unless you took hard science courses or majored in shrink work, you’re playing with yourself. I asked you more than once what about the crosstabs on those polls and never got a response which tells me you don’t have a clue what they are. You just copy down someone else’s crap and pretend to understand what they produced.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/20/2016) More than once and that proves you don’t have a clue about how polls are assembled. You’re a fucking fraud. And that isn’t ad hominem but a statement of fact. If I gave you a simple calculus problem and five minutes to solve it, you couldn’t. The five minutes is to keep you from finding the answer on the web. The same with a stat problem, you couldn’t solve it as simple as it is. A difficult math problem for you is figuring out how much of a tip you should leave, and that is if you even tip.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/21/2016) Yes fool, check the crosstabs to find out how the demographics break down, how the polling was done and how many GOP vs Dems were polled. Finally where were they polled. Obviously you never checked those tabs or you would find out why. FOOL!
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/22/2016) Anything that you posted blabbering how Trump is going to lose, Hillary will win, the polls are in Hillary’s favor and Trump is a crook, a fraud and whatever else. Basically you’re a Hillary sycophant.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/23/2016) No way. You’re the one posting that crap. There isn’t any reverse position. The only way to read these comments are: TORCER FOR HILLARY in 16
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/23/2016) You’re the one always wanting to stay on topic, so stay on topic.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/23/2016) Someone else I think it was Tom) used that word in a comment about you. You didn’t even know what it meant. Now you want me to believe you have that as part of your lexicon. You are a fraud.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/23/2016) Go play with yourself. You really aren’t worth the time. Terms to describe you do include squalling, squealing, petty, picayune, self-indulgent and of little intellect. You copy others work and flash it about as if you discovered the Rosetta Stone. The first thing that comes to mind when I see your gravatar is JOKE.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/24/2016) What an absurdity you are. You tell me I’M driving people away from Trump after we see the shit you put up day in and day out. What happened? Mommy wouldn’t unzip your fly for you so you could crank your carrot?
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/24/2016) Only in your fevered mind do you think you’re making any points. Brandishing Lefty polls around like they’re some illuminating treasure from your bowels impresses no one. What you need to show is that you have the smarts to stop groveling in those cesspits of mis and disinformation. So far you haven’t been able to distinguish pearls from poop and all you deliver is poop. And you want me to praise your acumen? Go let your mommy pat the top of your head.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (06/28/2016) No idea what your response is; I don’t click on diseased links. Never nave.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (07/22/2016) You don’t have a candidate. He set himself on fire and burned his future down to the soles of his shoes. Good -bye to that fraud.
    Ed. G. Mann►Torcer: (08/20/2016) The question was answered in the first sentence. The rest of the comment explained why. No more is forth coming, go away.

  45. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer schooled by Alphamail

    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/18/2016) Your talking points and attacks on Donald Trump mimic HuffPo, MSNBC, and CNN – you obviously have zero interest in joining our last effort to defeat the evil of Progressivism.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/18/2016) It’s not meandering – it simply discusses the correlation (unified effort) by Clinton and Soros that support actual planned violence, that you falsely and recklessly want to pin on Trump supporters. . Then I tossed in a short truth about how you are a virtual mouthpiece for the ultra-liberal left.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/18/2016) Read your question AGAIN Torcer – IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE…! Read this slowly and tell me if it’s a typo or if you are really that bad a writer…? Here, I’ll reprint again what you asked (in capital letters): . “WHERE THERE ANY STORIES OF TRUMPERS BEING VIOLENT?” . Did you mean “Were there any stories….?” or, “Where were there stories…?” or, “Where are there…..?” . Please wake up and stop making accusations at me instead of verifying the coherency of your original written question.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/18/2016) That is a non-sentence Mr. Erudite – and yet you defend your incomplete incomprehensible sentence structure. Now that you have become BMOC here at Moonbattery your arrogance and ego won’t let you admit a simple error.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/18/2016) The fact you now assign YOUR non-understandable non-question to ME – as playing a childish nitpicking grammar game – is precisely the idiocy and clinical non-logic you spew daily to bash every single breath Trump takes.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/18/2016) You’ve just shown yourself as capable of blaming someone else for your own simple error – an error I deem basically benign unless the person who hit the wrong computer key has such a massive ego that he can’t simply say that and move on. Your character flaws have shown up before we get through a single day and I feel sorry for you. If you want any more conversation with me you’ll have to provide excepts and links to your good character.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/19/2016) You call me childish so the conversation – if there even was one – is over. You have shown that you are unethical and basically dishonest when you make a typo that makes a sentence an unreadable non-sentence and I ask you to explain it so I can understand what you are asking – with no malice intended – and you say I use childish invective and falsehoods for simply pointing out a typo for clarity.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/19/2016) You convey yourself as brilliant but it’s arrogance in disguise and people have caught on that you’re a phony and a shill for Hillary – where nearly all your posts would be greeted by cheers at HuffPo – if you’re not writing some of their posts under a different name.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/19/2016) Your are not the king of this website, even though you act like it – everyone here has equal input and everyone here deserves their opinion to be accepted with at least some decorum. I have realized you are a low-information commenter who is only posting and reposting articles from other people or websites, with the uncanny inability to write extemporaneously without a plethora of typos and blather. A king with no clothes.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/19/2016) As far as “answer the question,” answer them yourself – that’s your dictate nearly every time you post, basically because you’re too lazy to do it yourself.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/20/2016) The very existence of America is at stake and while the entire house is burning down, you are ignoring it and are still in the kitchen rotating the shelf paper, while muttering to yourself and ordering people to produce excerpts and links.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/20/2016) Also, your lack of integrity and honesty won’t let you admit in a simple humble voice that you are still criticizing me for asking you to explain your typo – I make typos, we all make typos, and typos are a result of all our imperfections, but you still blame me for asking for clarity – and you do it with bitterness and malice. And you bend the truth like a pretzel by not admitting that you trashed me BEFORE you corrected it – another display of your unethical character. You are why I’m voting for Trump – to get rid of the ugliness, the lying arrogant nature of people who are ungrateful wretches, and those who despise their lesser fellow man – just like you and Hillary.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/20/2016) Good try Hillary supporter – you change the discourse even worse than she does – you are the voice of leftist Progressivism – your posts match HuffPo verbatim, no questions asked. You now see your left-wing propaganda coming back to bite you in the ass like an electric snake.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/20/2016) You’re cunning, dishonest, and unethical – “”scientifically based polls” are nonexistent and the phrase is an oxymoron at best in politics, because of the inexhaustible mountain of variables.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/20/2016) You KNOW this but you ask a phony setup question anyway, so that whatever the answer, you can pick from any of several superior tacks. If someone is too smart to answer your feeble semantic trap then you spout your rubber-stamp dictate to “Answer the question.”
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/20/2016) If they catch your juvenile stunt like I have and won’t answer the loaded question, then you say they are engaging in projection, denial, a straw man argument, a red herring, avoidance or whatever comes to mind
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/20/2016) So to try and converse with a programmed leftist propagandist like yourself is to play into your daily deceit and demeaning approach to other commenters with whom you disagree.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/20/2016) So get out your rubber stamp programmed answers and have at it – this is your last chance and the last time I respond to your obvious dishonesty.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/20/2016) And there you are again with your automaton scripted format just as I predicted. You are a hollow clinically obsessed robot. Bullshit at it’s best. . And also as I predicted, whenever you go off your “cut and paste” you ramble and can’t function without making some kind of typo. At least every one of your subsequent posts has contained at least one typo – including this last one. Besides being arrogant and unethical, you are also very sloppy. . goodbye
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/27/2016) Not a single message of the daily HORRENDOUS disclosures of Hillary’s emails, but you’ve stooped so fucking low to start quoting Michael Moore’s absolute left-wing gutter CONJECTURE which lines up with your complicity with Hillary and your cowardly choice to not lift a finger to defeat her.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/28/2016) Dozens of jail-threatening emails over the last month have implicated Hillary, but you don’t blog a fraction of her corruption, instead pointing out EVERY fart and hiccup of Trump ——-and you say you want to defeat hillary.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/28/2016) Your patented orders to your opponent are, “Answer the question.” As I say that, you don’t have the balls to answer what I asked FrozenPatriot – and he didn’t either.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/28/2016) I read nothing from Michael Moore and never will, but you apparently hang on his every fat ass prediction. You will side with baby slaughterers and military men killers if it helps you criticize Trump.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/29/2016) Wow – you would kill your first-born child to win an argument . I wasn’t referring to our past confrontations where I feel you were unethical and dishonest, and I responded so then – I’m talking about a recent post where I was being fairly gracious, but it was somehow deleted. Leave it to you to make a mile-long issue out of a two foot comment.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/30/2016) You dwell on this dishonest formula to win arguments – being virtually unable to vow to honest discourse – just like when you first boasted of your new formula to post your comments with a cute vertical line to highlight your comment (as if past history and basic commenter comfort wasn’t good enough). You boasted of your new format, which you insufferably still use today…, and your same stilted attitude obviously guides your sad and berating attitude and approach to others.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (10/30/2016) Your are getting to the point of laughable silliness, where according to and necessary to your formula, others either ‘project, deflect, need to provide excerpts, state false narratives….et al,’ It’s a perverse condescending formula.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (11/09/2016) ALMOST 60 MILLION VOTERS who Moonbattery and Torcer and TrojanMan and 762×51 called a cult, Trumpanzees, tools, and imbeciles – among other various vile and indecent names – elected Donald Trump…..who you personally called a sociopath, a turnip, and a threat to national security – who would NEVER EVER win the presidency. . Now you want to celebrate the tears of those who lost – as if you actually had anything to do with Trump winning. All you should take credit for is your #NeverEnding hateful crap that you slung at the decent individuals here at MB who voted for Donald Trump. . The disingenuousness and dishonesty of Torcer and the rest of you here at MB, is particularly disgusting when we had to defend ourselves against your constant bile, simply for expressing our opinions. In this entire election, #NeverTrumpers are the real losers – you wouldn’t directly vote against Hillary and Marxist Progressivism, even in the face of national suicide were she to be elected. . By proxy you lost when she lost. Celebrate all you want now and falsely claim some kind of victory – but whatever you do don’t disclose your names…..#NeverTrumpers are the equivalent of modern day Neville Chamberlains, and if Trump actually does what he promises and turns out to be a great president…then you will all eventually deserve the name and the payback.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (11/09/2016) The disingenuousness and dishonesty of Torcer and the rest of you here at MB, is particularly disgusting when we had to defend ourselves against your constant bile, simply for expressing our opinions. In this entire election, #NeverTrumpers are the real losers – you wouldn’t directly vote against Hillary and Marxist Progressivism, even in the face of national suicide were she to be elected.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (11/09/2016) Last, myself and others challenged your ability many times, to be able to predict the future – telling you your dictates were conjecture and subjective guesswork – LIKE THE TIMES WHEN YOU STATED TRUMP CAN NEVER WIN AND WILL NEVER WIN….and the incessant crap polls you dumped on us to bolster your FEELINGS and over-sized PRIDE.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (11/09/2016) Do your best Torcer – you started this original brouhaha with me when you blamed me for your own typo…I tried to explain that I wasn’t after you – I simply didn’t know what you meant because your comment wasn’t readable.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (11/09/2016) And now you try and join the celebration with the real patriots who voted directly against Hillary by voting for Trump. You are a spiteful ungrateful loser – you by proxy voted for Hillary and her history and agenda, by not voting for the ONLY candidate who had a shred of a chance to beat her. You own your sick legacy – I don’t – and now you want me to be understanding? Bite me………..
    Alphamail►Torcer: (11/09/2016) You attacked me for asking for clarification and you ground it into my face even as I backtracked. You can never be criticized by anyone who may disagree with you, and by so doing I consider you dishonest and a man of questionable character and minimal integrity.
    Alphamail►Torcer: (11/09/2016) Bite me loser. Your predictable ‘formula’ of obsessive-compulsive rants when other people challenge you with an opposing opinion, is borderline unstable and rather anal and creepy. You’re beginning to seep into the chaotic emotional world of 762xTraitor. . You’re kind of like a crybaby, huh…?
    Alphamail►Torcer: (11/09/2016) Excerpts and links,.excerpts and links, are you insane…? . That’s a conversation YOU and I HAD……….dimwit. . Are you a bean counter or a proctologist…? You either have a monkey’s memory or you’re obsessively anal.

  46. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer schooled by Fiberal

    Fiberal►Torcer: (03/14/2016) The only thing incumbent on me is to stop responding to idiots.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (04/05/2016) Unable to stay on point as usual.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (10/27/2016) You do realize, or maybe you don’t, that a Trump loss is a Cowliary presidency? Are you then also in favor of a doomed society? I will answer your questions if you first identify the logical fallacy under which your proposed set of questions fall.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (10/27/2016) Oh? You did know? And now you intend to charge headlong into a Cowliary presidency? By what? Degrading Trump at every possible turn to whoever would listen. A brilliant plan. Congratulations on some very robust thinking. BTW, becoming informed does not mean holding tenaciously to a misinterpretation of the information. So now if you are so intent to have your ever-so-clever, questions answered, then identify the fallacy under which they fall. I would have your design of this rhetoric put into proper context before proceeding. Those are the terms.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (10/27/2016) Maybe the reason why you don’t recognize the fallacy is bc you also don’t recognize the common meaning of common words. Can’t is not equivalent to Won’t. You denigrate your own proposition when you use a logical fallacy to state it.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (10/27/2016) Wow. Posting the same post over and over again. (doesn’t take much for weak minds to snap, does it Berkowitz?) Maybe someone will be impressed. You must have friends here. Good for you….! But hey. I’ll answer your questions right after this movie I’m watching. Keep checking back.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (10/30/2016) From your recent revelation that you knew from the beginning that your attempts to degrade Trump would lead to a Cowliary WH.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (10/30/2016) In any event, YOU have no credibility whatsoever on adjudicating credibility when you’ve lost all credibility in your admitted efforts to put a criminal in the WH….. And if you disagree with that, you might want to explain just what it is that you think you’re doing here. Not that you would have to admit anything. You’re not exactly trying to hide your vile affinity for Cowliary.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (10/30/2016) Not that you would have to admit anything. You’re not exactly trying to hide your vile affinity for Cowliary.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (10/31/2016) No one, least of all me, is interested in answering any of your loser questions, basic or otherwise. You lose. You agreed that Cowliary fits the profile described by Rand. Then by admitting that you knew full well the possible consequences of degrading Trump, you unwittingly positioned yourself tantamount to just another common liberal trying to get a criminal enterprise into the WH. Not that it hasn’t been evident. You can’t eviscerate anyone; you are the one whose been gutted. Predictable since you have only one attack mode and it’s based on a fallacy. You’re a web-based, subordinate toilet for Cowliary Clinton. And when Trump wins, you will have no further reason to wake up in the afternoons. . Now do yourself a favor and go get karyotyped.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (11/03/2016) Wow. A lot of material you’re hauling around with you. Truth hurts, huh? Look. You admitted that your interminable trump-trashing could lead to Hiliary taking the WH. So are you now claiming to be oblivious of the potential consequences of your hours and hours and sweat and strain needed to post all that chronic negative crap about Trump? Own it. You paid for it.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (11/04/2016) Just answer the question and quit trying to evade with nonsensical questions, pseudo-arguments, informal fallacies and evasions. Are you now claiming to be oblivious of the potential consequences of your hours and hours and sweat and strain needed to post all that chronic negative crap about Trump? Just straight out own it. You know you’ll feel better.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (11/04/2016) Stop whining. Didn’t you have parents?
    Fiberal►Torcer: (11/09/2016) You’re with her. Go away.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (11/10/2016) Kind of frustrated huh? I would be as well if I spent the kind of hours you spent on this blog trying to get Cowliary Clinton elected. Hurts to lose, don’t it?
    Fiberal►Torcer: (11/11/2016) You forgot another amazing meltdown over D Trump. Yours. That’s the one where you admitted to me, MB and the world at large that you were completely aware that your chronic criticism of Trump could put Cowliary in the WH. But of course, you wouldn’t have to admit that. It was evident to me, MB and everyone with a strong enough stomach to read your daily crap-on-the-wall smear of Trump, that “you were with HER.”
    Fiberal►Torcer: (11/12/2016) And now we are to trust that MB’s biggest anti-trumper will act as MB’s fair news Steward of all things Trump?
    Fiberal►Bodhisattva: (11/19/2016) Kirklesworth did a fine job posting a graphic illustration of Torcers’ systematic attacks on Trump. Keeping counts using key words is a simple job for a programmer. And not for anything, but even if KirklesWorth had an obsession with documentation, he shut down Torcer’s “where’s your data? where’s your data?” operation for a thread or two.
    Fiberal►Torcer: (12/22/2016) KirklesWorth’s list is quite a response to your question. So just what kind of discretion have you exhibited? Meaning that you were, are now and will always be a never-trumper with one mindless mission in life– to criticize Trump. You are with her. (BTW can you try and clean up your grammar? It’s painful to read.)

  47. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer schooled by Tom

    Tom►Torcer: (05/09/2016) You sound like a religious zealot, citing vague and alleged off-the-cuff Trump remarks as if they were the utterings of Satan and evidence of his eee-e-e-vil nature… get over it…your candidate had his chance, and he lost….
    Tom►Torcer: (05/12/2016) So it’s a bad idea to make folks who currently pay NO taxes actually have some skin in the game and pay taxes? What is your beef with that? Oh, I see…it came from Trump so it’s automatically and scornfully rejected.
    Tom►Torcer: (05/20/2016) That pretty much sums it up, wouldn’t you say? You are the worst bunch of sore losers that I have ever seen on the national political stage, and if anyone is going to “destroy” the GOP it is you Cruz fan-bois.
    Tom►Torcer: (05/21/2016) The “argument” is over…your guy lost. Now, I could detail the reasons why I did not support Cruz but what difference does it make? “Falsehoods”? For describing how you and an ever-shrinking number of Cruz supporters (such as yourself) are acting ever more shrill and hostile? How everything seems to boil down to “We are smarter and more wise and discerning that you Trump supporters…If you support Trump, you must be dumb.” Get over yourselves already.
    Tom►Torcer: (05/22/2016) So to answer your insistent questions, yes, I am aware of these “issues” and they still weren’t enough to get me to support your boy Cruz. But you know what? If Cruz had come out on top, I would have supported him. I wouldn’t be threatening to stay home because my guy lost…I would have bucked up and supported the nominee. You folks should consider doing the same.
    Tom►Torcer: (05/23/2016) I’ll…say…this…slowly…so…you…can…understand: NO, I cannot “guarantee the rest of the nation to do the same”…what a juvenile and utterly ridiculous question. And I don’t know if you imagine yourself to be some kind of flinty headmaster but your expectations (you will BE EXPECTED….properly respond to it) mean nothing to me. There…have we cleared that up? YES, I was aware of your hysterical “Reasons Trump Is Satan” lists and I do not care. NO, I cannot “guarantee” that the other 300 million people in America will do the same.
    Tom►Torcer: (05/23/2016) I get the impression you think your nonsensical tirade is some sort of “gotcha” moment… still don’t know what your point is. Trump is going to be the GOP nominee…I repeat, Trump is going to be the GOP nominee… Now, you can support him or not…no skin off my ass, and I sure as hell have never tried to…I think you meant “intimidate”…you or any other Trumpophobe on here. I’m going to vote for him – warts and all – and I would urge you to do the same.
    Tom►Torcer: (05/23/2016) Again, I don’t know what the hell you are ranting about, or why you are ranting at me… I repeat…I am voting for Trump, barring some unforeseen circumstances and those circumstances do NOT include being browbeaten by some monotonously repetitive scold on the internet, no matter how many pages of old links you post. You know, the time to convince people was during the primaries…not when the nomination is all but sewn up. And this bold printed: ANSWER YES OR NO! crap…I’ve answered you and answered you all I’m going to.
    Tom►Torcer: (05/25/2016) Again, why are you asking me about what “Trump supporters”may or may not have done? Speaking for myself, NO, I never tried to “intimidate” anyone into voting for Trump, unless you consider mockery of your ever-more hysterical and desperate smears of Trump to be “intimidation”.
    Tom►Torcer: (05/25/2016) “You can expect this question to be repeated UNTIL you answer it.” Well, you can expect me to ignore it from now on. You’re obsessed…get help…grow up.
    Tom►Torcer: (05/27/2016) I have no idea of what you’re talking about…your first couple of “questions” I answered had perhaps some semblance of coherence but now you’re just blathering.
    Tom►Torcer: (05/27/2016) I have no idea of what you’re talking about…your first couple of “questions” I answered had perhaps some semblance of coherence but now you’re just blathering. bye now
    Tom►Torcer: (05/28/2016) Guess what, asshole? You’re not my mother, my father, nor my wife…you don’t get to issue me “instructions”…go back to licking your Cruz-jock, and find someone else to harangue with your ignorance.
    Tom►Torcer: (06/16/2016) You are so fevered about Trump that you portray every single tweet he makes in the worst possible light, and as some sort of graven-in-stone Trump Commandment, to which he must be HELD forever!! “See? See here? Back in February, Trump tweeted X, and now he’s tweeting Y!! HE’S A LIAR!! And a HYPOCRITE!” Childishly ridiculous and not really indicative of a serious person, but rather someone who is growing ever more shrill and desperate, someone who seems completely clueless about the whole concept of a “campaign”.
    Tom►Torcer: (06/17/2016) Again, you seem to have an issue with reading comprehension…was I referring to this tweet? No. Was I speaking in generalities about you and the absurd lengths you go through to demonize Trump? Yes. Again, you seem to think every Trump tweet is an affidavit of his beliefs. You seem to treat his off-hand comments as if he was reading from the Final Copy of the GOP Platform, and, by God, you’re gonna hold him to it!
    Tom►Torcer: (06/17/2016) You seem very emotionally invested, not in electing the best choice for POTUS, but in insuring that THAT GODDAM TRUMP DOESN’T WIN! Forget doing what, you know, rational people do before voting, which is: Which candidate, OF THE TWO, will be better for America? Which one will strengthen America, and which one will weaken, divide, and degrade us? Instead of principled thinking, your whole schtick just reeks of resentment that Cruz lost, and anger at Trump for defeating him.
    Tom►Torcer: (06/17/2016) Too late for “principled resistance”…your guy lost. It’s down to Trump or Hillary…Now, apparently you want to align yourself with the flag-burning brutes rioting in the streets – Hell, you hate Trump just as much as any Mexican illegal, right? Maybe even more so! You’re on the same page with all the hateful shrieking and “protesting” anti-Trump thugs, after all, right? They’re taking the words right outta your mouth!! If you want to align yourself with despicable folks such as BLM, or La Raza, or Bill Ayers – all united in their hatred of Trump, just like you!…you’ll fit right in! But don’t try to give us this bullshit about “I’m not helping Hillary…YOU are!”
    Tom►Torcer: (06/18/2016) What choice is that? To help elect Hilary? You’re throwing your lot in with some pretty nasty, hateful folks… you are united in your Trump hatred with the Full-Rights-For-Illegals-NOW! folks, the Black Lives Matter crowd, the anarchists, the environmental extremists, the gun control zealots, the molotov-cocktail-throwers…those are your allies now…all singing in one voice – “Never Trump!!” So where will you be rioting next?
    Tom►Torcer: (06/18/2016) Get a life, why don’t you?
    Tom►Torcer: (06/18/2016) “The informed choice on who to support ” So you admit you’re pulling for Hillary, then…
    Tom►Torcer: (06/18/2016) Well, you’re “informed”, as you repeat ad nauseum, so who is the “choice” you’re going to support? Believe me, we all know who you’re NOT supporting but who, in the general election campaign will you be SUPPORTING? It’s down to Trump or Hillary…who will you support?
    Tom►Torcer: (06/18/2016) You seem life-consumingly obsessed with, and pissed at Trump because you seem to think that, IF ONLY Teddy had been the GOP nominee, that his snotty, condescending, hectoring tone and his lack of any real accomplishments would be just ballot-box GOLD, that if only Lyin’ Ted had been the nominee, that old Hillary would be quaking in her boots, and a GOP victory would be all but assured. This demonstrates a definite disassociation from reality, the reality that a 1st-term Senator with no real accomplishments, who has been latched onto that taxpayer teat his entire adult life, who wasn’t even born in this country for God’s sake, would NOT be elected. You can’t seem to come to grips with this, but continue to fantasize about Ted To The Rescue!
    Tom►Torcer: (06/18/2016) Because of the rubbish you post and apparently believe with all your heart…evidence of gullibility, of nonsensical gibberish, link after link after link, with nary an original thought in the lot. You make the longest posts on here, but not many of your own words…you let others do your thinking for you. So go ahead, cling to your Lyin’ Ted life-sized love-doll…the serious folks have already moved on, but you apparently can’t. So when will you be joining forces with your new friends? You know, the Mexican-flag-waving, molotov-cocktail-throwing illegals who obviously hate Trump just like you do? Will you be wearing your S.E.I.U.-printed T-shirt to the riot, or will you perhaps make your own “F*CK TRUMP” T-shirt to wear? Won’t your Black Lives Matter allies be impressed!
    Tom►Torcer: (06/18/2016) “Researching the issues”… Again, what is it that makes you so self-aggrandizing that you can’t seem to get it through your head that I have “researched the issues”? You folks are sure full of yourselves, aren’t you? You’re just so SURE that the only reason anyone could support Trump is because they are either a.)Evil, or b.) ignorant. You supported a LOSER…a LOSER…get over it, and your very puffed-up opinion of your “research capabilities”.
    Tom►Torcer: (06/18/2016) So do you mean “facts” or endless links to the same old crap? I think you mean the latter, because that’s what we get ,,,page after endless page of angst-ridden and angry vitriol.
    Tom►Torcer: (06/21/2016) If Hillary WAS looking to recruit a so-called “conservative” to go to certain “conservative” websites and keep up the constant, relentless, non-stop Trump bashing in the comments – which, at this stage, can only help Hillary, and all the while feeding even MORE anti-Trump tidbits to the site proprietor to increase the anti-Trump=pro-Hillary fervor….you’d sure fit the bill, wouldn’t you, torcer? 130 comments a day for 300 days straight? Over 8 comments per hour, 16 hours a day, for 300 days in a row, 7 days a week, every week? That’s what your post count works out to…Now,I don’t know about other folks, but I’m damned if I’d be doing all that, a carpal-tunnel-syndrome inducing torrent of anti-Trump propaganda, day in and day out, TENS OF THOUSANDS of posts…truly STAGGERING numbers (and all in under 10 months!)…unless I was getting something out of the deal besides personal satisfaction.
    Tom►Torcer: (06/21/2016) What falsehood? Here’s a good one, kind of a “tables turned” deal, huh? Does your disqus home page show that you joined just last August, and that in the intervening less-than-10-months have posted (as of 8:36pm, EDT) 39,472 comments? YES……….OR…………..NO?
    Tom►Torcer: (06/21/2016) And will you look at that! You’ve upped your Daily Disqus Average a whole point since last night! Last night you were averaging “only” 130 posts per day for the last 300 days straight, but today, you’re up to over 131 for your dda. 39472 (posts since Aug. 25, 2015, when you joined disqus) divided by 301 (days since Aug. 25, 2015) equals 131.13 comments PER DAY, every day…just on disqus. And you’re on twitter, too? Quite the prolific social media presence, huh?
    Tom►Torcer: (06/21/2016) You still haven’t detailed what my “falsehood” was, have you?
    Tom►Torcer: (06/21/2016) I then expressed my opinion that I sure as hell wouldn’t be doing that much work >>more than 131 comments per day, 7 days a week, including weekends and holidays, for 300+ days>>unless I was getting paid for my efforts in some manner. 131 posts /day, every day, with the extra time for html coding, sounds like someone working at a full-time job, not an average joe commenting out of a sense of civic responsibility.
    Tom►Torcer: (06/22/2016) Are you that dense that you can seriously say that my OPINION is a falsehood? And you think that’s a “gotcha!”? So who signs your paychecks?
    Tom►Torcer: (06/22/2016) So the SO WHAT is you try to pass yourself off here as just another regular joe, just tryin to do what’s best for America, but you are apparently multi-platform commenting as a full-time job, all of it Anti-Trump. So I ask again: Who signs YOUR paychecks?
    Tom►Torcer: (06/22/2016) God, you’re dense, aren’t you? I’m not going through it again…I ask the same question I’ve asked before… Who signs your paychecks?
    Tom►Torcer: (06/22/2016) I notice you’re not answering my question, are you? Who signs your paychecks? If you’re drawing a paycheck from any kind of business, they’re getting ripped off big time because who could find the time to do any company business when they’re shooting out 131 long, formatted comments and 50+tweets a day, every day? Who signs your paychecks?
    Tom►Torcer: (06/23/2016) That’s LAUGHABLE, coming from someone who apparently earns his living slinging slurs AGAINST one candidate…Oh, you’ll throw in a token Anti-Hillary bit every now and then, but the main focus of your 131-posts-and-50+-tweets-a-day-for-10-months-straight onslaught is Trump…Trump is a crook, Trump is a fraud, Trump’s going to lose, Trump, Trump, Trump… In case you haven’t noticed – what with your high-volume, professional commenting career – I come here to post in FAVOR of Trump…The only candidate you “support” with your constant drumbeat of “TRUMP SUX!” is Hillary. So come on…put your money where your mouth is…please show us YOUR messages since the primaries ended which “argue FOR your candidate”. Tell you what…you find your comments which indeed “argue FOR your candidate”, and I’ll find the ones which contain “…false narratives, ad hominem , strawman and similar school yard tactics…” and we’ll see which list is bigger, OK?
    Tom►Torcer: (06/23/2016) See, I don’t think it’s “irrelevant” if you are a professional commenter whose job consists of full-time commenting and tweeting against Trump. I think it’s very relevant to, among other things, your honesty and scruples. . I’m a private citizen…I have no multi-platform- social-media-Anti-Trump-raison d’etre, as you seem to. I’m not a professional “mediaite”, who’s here pretending to be just another concerned citizen while obviously doing the bidding of someone else, as you apparently are. Who is paying you for your full-time job of commenting and feeding anti-Trump “tips” to dave?
    Tom►Torcer: (06/23/2016) No, asshole, the big “falsehood” you just started pushing is now a favorite tactic of the radical left…slam, insult, demean, demonize (or would you spell it “demonize?) Trump for months on end….when called out on your dishonesty, whine about how, “You’re using ad hominem attacks on me!! False Narrative! False Narrative!” Here’s a good example of a “false narrative”, one which even you might understand if you can take time out from your busy Internet-commenting career: “Trump was going to STEAL those millions of dollars from the veterans!!It was a SCAM from the beginning!” Now, THAT’S a false narrative, but one you and others have been relentlessly pushing for months. I think folks are starting to see through your “I’m a professional anti-Trump content generator, but I play Regular, Average Joe on the internet” scam, and now you’re all, “Owie! That HURTS! Stop your mean old false narratives!” See, even in the post where you pule about the meanies who use “false narratives”, you complain “you people have adopted the tactics of the national socialist left.”…IOW, we’re Nazis. Who signs your paychecks, torcer?
    Tom►Torcer: (07/06/2016) Oh, God…here you go again with your “YES or NO!” crap,
    Tom►Torcer: (07/06/2016) Are you a shill for Hillary? YES – or – HELL, YES! ?
    Tom►Torcer: (07/13/2016) Wondering why no attribution for this but then I see that you wrote it yourself! You sure do get around, don’t you Tor? Torcer? Here’s one reply to this post on floppingaces: “Tor, next to being piss poor journalist and and true socialist… Tor, did you buy your degree?…” Here’s another reply to your floppingaces column, from May… “No more doubt in my mind. Tor is a propaganda spammer for the #NeverTrump movement.” Posting here, posting there, providing anti-Trump “tips”…almost 42,000 disqus posts in less than 11 months!…posting columns at floppingaces, all of them slamming the only hope we have to avoid a Hillary presidency…almost like you’re getting paid for all your work and effort in decrying, demeaning, and demonizing Trump. So who signs your paychecks?
    Tom►Torcer: (07/13/2016) See? I can cite internet stuff about logic, too – just like you! But you’e still avoiding the question, aren’t you? When someone asks you, “So what do you do for a living?”, do you tell them: “I’m a proud, multi-platform, 24x7x365, WAY-more-than-100-posts-per-day purveyor of anti-Trump propaganda to supposed conservative websites.”? If you were honest, that’s what you would say. Who signs your paychecks, tor/cer?
    Tom►Torcer: (07/13/2016) You’re sounding desperate…The Washington Post? Post after post after post of anti-Trump propaganda…do you have a staff working on getting these posts all queued up? You were able to recall, edit, and post these 2- and 3-day old editorials – with ellipses and bold print – just like that, huh? And you do this all on your own, no financial interest in pretending to be just an average Joe, just postin’ stuff to keep y’all informed fellow on disqus?
    Tom►Torcer: (07/13/2016) Try acting like a real person and stop pretending that you’re just some average joe, posting hundreds, thousands, tens, SCORES of thousands of posts… Who signs your paychecks, tor/cer?
    Tom►Torcer: (07/13/2016) “behaviour” ??? So you’re not even American??? Never EVER saw an actual American use that spelling…you weren’t quoting anyone…you used the Canadian / British spelling of the word… What kind of scam are you running?
    Tom►Torcer: (07/13/2016) There you go with your “the polling…predicts”…again. You sure do love them polls, don’t you? Except, you know, the Q poll dared TODAY that shows Trump leading / tied in PA, FL, and OH. Yeah, you didn’t know about that one, did you?
    Tom►Torcer: (07/13/2016) Why do you use the British / Canadian spelling of “behaviour”? If you are NOT an American, that would explain a lot. Were you even born in this country?
    Tom►Torcer: (07/13/2016) What’s the lie? disqus shows (hang in, let me check)…41,857 posts since you joined on Aug. 25, 2015…so my “scores of thousands” cite was accurate… You cross-posted a “guest post” that you made at floppingaces, ad judging by the comments there, you are known to them as well…at least 3 such “guest post” columns, all anti-Trump all the way. I won’t bother to check your twitter feed but you’re on there, too, with thousands of tweets You are pretty much a one-man propaganda machine, aren’t you? And all out of the goodness of your heart! So do you have a real job? Aside from posting anti-Trump propaganda? ANSWER – YES or NO!
    Tom►Torcer: (07/13/2016) Once again, what the hell are you talking about? Your post above “Trump is making a mess of his campaign” is frickin’ concern trolling from one of the more liberal wapo writers… Check the link yourself…
    Tom►Torcer: (07/14/2016) “Please explain why I would take the time to WARN people of the danger of his candidacy?” That’s an easy one….because you’re getting paid to do it in an effort to elect Hillary.
    Tom►Torcer: (07/14/2016) Sad for you that we’re starting to see through your scam…you weren’t born or raised in America, were you Where are you from? Canada? That might help explain your drooling man-love for Cruz, huh?
    Tom►Torcer: (07/14/2016) Boy, for a multi-platform one-man propaganda machine, you don’t seem too bright… Why, oh why, would someone on conservative (read: GOP-supporting) websites – purporting to be a conservative – expend SO much effort and blather (tens of thousands) to demean, diminish, slam, slime, decry, insult, impugn, and malign Trump – the only alternative to the horrors of Hillary – all in the guise of a “concerned, principled, conservative”? Gosh, that’s a tough one, isn’t it? Maybe because he’s being paid by the Hillary camp to – again – slam, slime, etc – the GOP nominee? That the HRC folks are hoping that some weak-minded naifs would be overwhelmed by the frickin sheer volume of your anti-Trump propaganda and decide to vote for Hillary? Come on…there’s not THAT many dots to connect….. Here’s another dot: “behaviour” in place of the spelling that EVERY American uses…never, ever seen an American “accidentally” use the British / Canadian spelling…

  48. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer schooled by Others Part 1

    SOS2939►Torcer: (02/04/2016) Um, you mean Robert Mercer’s Breitbart? Guess you’re not aware that he gave $100 million to Cruz, and Cruz conveniently wants to abolish the IRS? Mercer owes the IRS $6-10 BILLION. I don’t hide my posts on here you pathetic troll…try it sometime.
    Lockstein13►Torcer: (02/10/2016) You’re getting redundant AND repetitive…and BORING.
    Lockstein13►Torcer: (02/10/2016) I don’t play children’s games. GROW UP, SPAMMER.
    Lockstein13►Torcer: (02/10/2016) You are showing everyone here what a SPAMMER really is.
    Lockstein13►Torcer: (02/10/2016) Grow up. You’re BORING.
    Lockstein13►Torcer: (02/10/2016) I usually don’t reply to trollS or SPAMMERS (like you).
    Paul Byvtary►Torcer: (02/16/2016) You silly dumb dumb, I just told you the facts. I’d explain more but I’m done lighting candles for the blind.
    Bill the Cat►Torcer: (02/19/2016) HAHAH HAHAHA HAHahah hahah hahah hahah hahahahah oh, my goodness…. this is funny! You’ve got one deathly serious man-crush on Teddy, don’t you? Well, he’s not going to be POTUS and because of the creepy folks demanding that everyone vote for him, he’s not likely to be re-elected Senator. Maybe when he kicks over to K-Street, you can “intern” for him?
    Bill the Cat►Torcer: (02/20/2016) Don’t you just hate it when you discover that you’ve been publicly running your lips for months and were wrong?
    Bill the Cat►Torcer: (02/22/2016) LOL… My apologies, I didn’t realize that English was your 2nd language…. let me try to make it clearer for you: I’m laughing at your persistence, but I’m not arguing with you about Cruz having any chance of winning :>) Get it now?
    Bill the Cat►Torcer: (02/22/2016) Since you appear to have been driven completely around the bend by Mr. Cruz’s losses, just re-read the message below for my reply to your next, inevitable, demented post ;>) Teddy and the Calgary Cruzbillies lost, little guy. Man up, deal with it and move on. Oh, BTW, did you see that Cruz has now apologized for lying about Rubio?
    Skip►Torcer: (02/25/2016) You are not a conservative. And would you tell those who have followed and voted for the so-called conservatives for decades, what have they done for us in decades?
    Artfuldgr►Torcer: (02/25/2016) Really torcer? so if yo lived in a democrat bastion and had to appeas them to do business, you would stand on principal, put your 30,000 employees out of business, and call it a day… and when your not famous, hope someone like you would know you existed and compliment you while throwing a dime in your cup bfore getting on the train?
    Skip►Torcer: (02/29/2016) Torcer, are you related to the author of this blog? Or are you simply someone who believes he has all the answers but has none? It is probably both.
    Guy Stumpman►Torcer: (03/02/2016) Yes, but attempting to discuss them with people who suffer fro Trump Derangement Syndrome is pointless…so I won’t bore you with them.
    yourfavoritedeplorableunkle►Torcer: (03/02/2016) Demanding little cuss aren’t you. Those national polling numbers are nothing more than wishful thinking by the media all at the directive of the UNiParty.
    yourfavoritedeplorableunkle►Torcer: (03/03/2016) Polls, shmolls…. I have answered your question but will re-assert myself once more that those polls are nothing more than a tool to steer public opinion in the direction the pollsters and those that that pay the pollsters wish. Polls are biased by their inherent nature when one considers that a poll is established for the purpose of establishing or negating a claim, idea, person etc… . The skewing of data and leading questions are commonplace.
    yourfavoriteunkle►Torcer: (03/07/2016) 1. I addressed the issue in the first sentence. Just because you don’t like the facts doesn’t mean it’s not true. 2 Correct. Trump has been playing politics for a long time. Is it Trump’s fault the the UNiParty has turned OUR Congress and Senate in to a forum for legalized bribery? Doing what you need to do to remain successful in today’s business world is dirty business. They made the rules, he followed them. 3. I don’t deny the facts. Just because you’re butthurt that your guy can’t play the game as well is no reason to get your panties in a knot. 4 Here in AMERICA, it’s spelled F-A-V-O-R and not F-A-V-O-U-R. You didn’t think I missed that did you?
    Nobama►Torcer: (03/07/2016) Whatever dude. We are taking about 2 different things here. you are just too belligerent to get it.
    toheckwithyou►Torcer: (03/08/2016) I became a Trump supporter when he won the Republican primary. It’s over. Get on the Trump train or support Hillary. It’s that simple
    IslandLifer►Torcer: (03/10/2016) Are you truly that stupid? Whose side are you on? A 79 yo? Protesters? Did you bother to see who they were and what they were really doing? No…you’re a mindless drone who snips and pastes every anti Trump story the internet puts out. Right Pooper not doing his homework again. Shocker!
    IslandLifer►Torcer: (03/12/2016) You in particular seem to have a really hard problem comprehending why others don’t reply to your adolescent style of getting a point across. Someone will answer you very directly but you manage to ignore it and keep pestering to get the same answer in 100 different ways. I’ve seen this on other sites so I can’t blame anyone for ignoring your redundant replies.
    IslandLifer►Torcer: (03/12/2016) Why don’t you post like a normal person instead of using bold/caps/…. Does someone neglect you in daily life you need to scream “look at me!”? A hyperlink would work w/o copy and pasting the entire article on here. Give it a shot…I think you can!
    IslandLifer►Torcer: (03/14/2016) You’re a dumb child
    IslandLifer►Torcer: (03/14/2016) You’ve joined the ranks of others here not worth talking to. Especially with third reich BS and persistent answering of ?s with ?s. Push off Toyota tercer
    Skip►Torcer: (03/14/2016) Torcer – Is this you blog? Why don’t you go and troll someone else’s blog.
    IslandLifer►Torcer: (03/18/2016) Oh my! Put down the crack pipe! Everything laid out right before you but you’re playing a game of mental midget. Your excerpt is in the post I linked above! Do I need to hold your hand and walk you through it?
    IslandLifer►Torcer: (03/18/2016) If you can’t admit that spinning Trumps words from suggesting there could be riots to him calling for riots isn’t a false narrative then I can’t help you. Everyone else managed to see it…you must be some kind of special.
    IslandLifer►Torcer: (03/18/2016) No. It’s just hard to talk to a rock. I’ve better things to do.
    Rock Knutne►Torcer: (03/22/2016) Sure. If you want to believe in polls taken and promoted by PR companies and not actually polling companies. Try doing a little research. Start here. the conservativetreehouse
    Lockstein13►Torcer: (03/30/2016) Nothing I can say will resolve your denials and delusions.
    Lockstein13►Torcer: (03/31/2016) Nice – but FAILED – attempt at deflection.
    Lockstein13►Torcer: (03/31/2016) No one CARES what you think. Your arrogance is worthy of a 12 year old know it all.
    Lockstein13►Torcer: (03/31/2016) They’re NOT “strawmen”, moron. That you CHOOSE ignorance is NOT a refutation of Dan’s statements. And: your “I demand links!” game is pathetic. I am embarassed for you.
    Auburn Rapunzel►Torcer: (04/01/2016) Or else what? You’ll call me a left-leaning Trump supporter? These are open facts, buddy. I’m not going to play this game with you, because I know whatever I say, you’re going to find some way to disqualify. I’m not sure why you’re so invested in having Ted Cruz as your Lord and Savior, but that’s your problem, not mine.
    Auburn Rapunzel►Torcer: (04/01/2016) Are you seriously going to insist that Heidi Cruz isn’t connected to Goldman Sachs, isn’t on leave of absence, and isn’t his fundraiser? Or possibly, are you saying they’re not married? What are you, some kind of muckraker?
    Auburn Rapunzel►Torcer: (04/01/2016) If those aren’t facts, I’d give a pretty penny to know what are. Or, perhaps, is a statement’s “fact” status based more on whether it’s critical of your beloved Hispano-Canadian messiah?
    cjkcjk►Torcer: (04/03/2016) You left out the biggest reason why Hillary might beat Trump …………………………..Because of petulant people like you who will take their ball and go home instead of voting against the Hag.
    Lockstein13►Torcer: (04/04/2016) You are nothing more than A BROKEN RECORD. That “prove it” schtick of yours gets MIIIIIIGHTY OLD MIGHTY FAST. TROLL ELSEWHERE, child.
    Auburn Rapunzel►Torcer: (04/05/2016) Well, one of them is not letting someone make a discussion thread be all about me. Another is not wasting my time explaining myself to someone holding me to higher standards than anyone else in an effort to manufacture an excuse to ignore me.
    Auburn Rapunzel►Torcer: (04/05/2016) How about you just watch how I conduct myself on this site, instead of asking me to recite the Shahada? It shouldn’t be hard for you to figure out (although it probably will be).
    Lockstein13►Torcer: (04/06/2016) you are a BORE…on the verge of a SPAMMER. ENOUGH of your “prove it!” childishness. If you’re too much in denial or too lazy, that is NOT my problem.
    Star►Torcer: (04/12/2016) However many references I post, it probably won’t sway anyone’s opinion here. Do your own homework if you are interested, if not, ignore my post and keep propping up Cruz.
    Willard J Clinton►Torcer: (04/13/2016) And you failed to comprehend me addressing your point, but if MSM polling is the only thing that matters to you, Trump is closer to the pig in a pantsuit at this point than Reagan was to Carter at the same point during his first run. By your logic there was no point in nominating Reagan. Trump will annihilate the Marxist bitch in the general election.
    Spleenicus►Torcer: (04/15/2016) Spewing inane talking points means eviscerated? Che Cruzlings, everyone.
    Spleenicus►Torcer: (04/15/2016) You are saying El Rato hasn’t mirrored Trump’s policies? That just makes you a run of the mill liar.
    Spleenicus►Torcer: (04/15/2016) I don’t think you know what strawman means.
    Spleenicus►Torcer: (04/15/2016) Post some more clever pictures, El Rato worshiper. I feel no obligation to mollify scum like you. Weren’t y’all calling untrusTED an outsider little bit ago? And now he’s a genius for knowing the insiders’ game like the back of his hand? Bah, cult members.
    Deserttrek►Torcer: (04/21/2016) You need mental help and fast or afraid to leave your safe space? Smell some fresh air and leave grammies basement there is a big world out there. truth and rational thought are good and do not relate to support, just truth and rational thought
    Deserttrek►Torcer: (04/22/2016) get a life and leave the basement
    Spleenicus►Torcer: (04/30/2016) You “The moon is made of cheese!” Me “Idiot.” You “Ha Ha. Ad Hominem. Also, your failure to debate me on the composition of the moon proves it!” Me and anyone else reading your rantings “Retard.”
    Momster►Torcer: (04/30/2016) Torcer, Torcer…we get it…you and Dave hate Trump’s guts! you are jumping on him with the venom usually reserved for Hillary and Jimmy Carter! I used to really love coming to Moonbattery, but lately I am getting a little weary of the “hate Trump” meme (and not just yours). We do not all march in lockstep like the Dimocrats. Conservatives are allowed to stray off the reservation and have ideas of their own. I am not telling you to shut up, Keep on, but do realize that “dump Trump” posts can push Trump supporters more fimly into his camp.
    cjkcjk►Torcer: (05/01/2016) You do realize that any sane thinking person has written you off as deranged because of your leftist like hatred for a guy who may not be perfect, but is nothing like you describe. you have jumped the shark, hell you’ve jumped the fucking whale. People despise suck ups and brown nosers.
    KatherineBranwen►Torcer: (05/04/2016) ______ You know what’s really telling here, Torcer? You’d rather see Hillary Clinton, the Democrat, win. Your ignorant, deluded, malignant hatred of Trump is far more important to you than the country.
    KatherineBranwen►Torcer: (05/04/2016) Sorry, Torcer, but you won’t get your wish of a Clinton presidency. I know how hard that will be for you. After all, ‘proving’ your conservative bona fides depends on it, right?
    KatherineBranwen►Torcer: (05/05/2016) That proves nothing except that Jim Messina knows there are a lot of idiots out there like you who will fall for his BS… It’s called propaganda, moron…
    KatherineBranwen►Torcer: (05/05/2016) Now grow up, and get over the fact that Republican voters rejected Ted Cruz. Or are you going to ‘prove’ your conservative bona fides by helping Hillary Clinton get elected?
    concern00►Torcer: (05/09/2016) Yes, but you fail to offer a solution. A Clinton presidency is not a solution.
    CruisingTroll►Torcer: (05/17/2016) You keep saying that the Trumpites are uninformed. You are mistaken. Unlike Obama, who was a cypher upon whom the casually engaged electorate could project their hopes, Trump is a well known public figure. Trumpites KNOW who they’re voting for. In that sense, this is the first election since 1984 where BOTH candidates are nationally truly known quantities. They KNOW Trumps shortcomings (some of which some of them consider to be strengths). They know his character. And they are okay, some grudgingly, many enthusiastically, with it. There’s very little basis for accusations of “uninformed” with regards to the Trump voter. Do not give them the charity/insult of laying that on them. (Note: the same goes for Hillary’s voters.)
    CruisingTroll►Torcer: (05/17/2016) Indicting the rest as “uniformed”, generally used as a polite synonym for “ignorant” or “stupid”, well, that’s not going to accomplish anything more productive than when a Trumpite tosses around “cuckservative” or “traitor”. It’s not that “the facts don’t matter”, nor is it “they don’t know the facts”. It’s simply that they weight them differently.
    DevNull►Torcer: (05/17/2016) I don’t have a problem with free-press or free speech but I also have the right to call out the actions of people like David that seem to have taken on a case of Trump derangement syndrome. He’s going to be nominee like it or not so the Trump haters need to get on board so we can prevent Hillary or Bernie from being elected. Simple as that.
    Hans Landa►Torcer: (05/20/2016) I see that Dave’s minister of propaganda has arrived to save the day.
    Hans Landa►Torcer: (05/20/2016) Trump’s comments are what they are. Opinion comments by the GOPe punditry are what they are. Your self-professed omniscience as to what Trump will assuredly do is simply in question here. You were a big prognosticator for Trump’s demise not long ago due to polling, which has changed considerably from even recent weeks ago. And you’re one of Dave’s biggest fan-boys.
    Wewon Bigly►Torcer: (05/20/2016) Either Trump or Clinton will be president. Take your pick. It’s that simple now.
    Wewon Bigly►Torcer: (05/21/2016) I’m voting for lesser of 2 evils. Just as I have every election since Bush the father. You are effectively supporting Hillary by not voting for Trump. How do you rationalize that? — I VOTED FOR CRUZ IN THE PRIMARIES
    IMPACT1►Torcer: (05/21/2016) You are so intoxicated with anger you cannot even hear what I am saying.
    Wewon Bigly►Torcer: (05/21/2016) Guess what? We’re 100% certain that Hillary is a socialist. No question about it.
    IMPACT1►Torcer: (05/21/2016) So, you are not Angry? And I read you wrong? I stated something I have as a gut (positive) feeling, and those usually start off in a sentence as I believe, I think….. You are set in your mind you are against Trump and me getting Facts and Figures to “prove” anything to you will just be a waste of my time…I will not be able to sway you no matter if I give you 1000 facts and figures….
    Brandon►Torcer: (05/22/2016) Like many other Trump voters, most of the ones I knew would have been happy to vote for Cruz had he won the nomination. But calling people you disagree with on your own side idiots….
    Wewon Bigly►Torcer: (05/23/2016) Because I’m #NeverHillary and its the only thing I can do to help stop her. At this point you are either #NeverHillary or #NeverTrump. It’s impossible to be both. Any rational person realizes this fact. Which are you?
    Deathstroke►Torcer: (05/24/2016) Are you a troll? I AM NOT DENYING THE EFFORT BY THE LEFT TO MAKE DONALD AS THE NOMINEE. I AM denying the socialists want him as the nominee because of the violence they’ve been brought to Trumps rallies. The left wants Donald to be the nominee so they can put Hillary in office, which is ALL THE MORE REASON to vote Trump. Who’s left? How doesn’t that answer “Now why would that be the case?” You keep saying I’m “dodging the question.” How have I been dodging the question?
    Deathstroke►Torcer: (05/24/2016) “The left wants Donald to be the nominee so they can put Hillary in office, which is ALL THE MORE REASON to vote Trump.” You literally aren’t even reading what I’m posting.

  49. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer Schooled by Others Part 2

    toheckwithyou►Torcer: (06/07/2016) Yes. The choice is always between a RINO and a Lib. Do you not understand that you are doing Hillary’s bidding?
    RoseD1st►Torcer: (06/07/2016) you nevertrump nuts are the true RINOs
    toheckwithyou►Torcer: (06/12/2016) Spoken like a true uni-party supporter of Hillary.
    JoeK►Torcer: (06/12/2016) So NOT voting for Trump is NOT, like giving Hitlery 10 democRATic votes? Is that right? Is that what I’m supposed to believe? Or is it that by not voting for Trump, Hitlery will NOT take the presidency and Our Country the rest of the way to hell? Maybe I should just vote for Hitlery and Bill clinton to prove what an ass-hole Don J. Trump 2016 is?!! That’ll show them fucking Americans that we’ll gett’em next time!! Really???
    JoeK►Torcer: (06/12/2016) Wow!! An actually humorous comment from you that doesn’t take up 92% of the bandwidth on the site!! Nice! Well done, ma’am!!
    Bully►Torcer: (06/17/2016) What about the coming years having a Leftist SCOTUS? We can vote Trump out in four years but SCOTUS is seated for life. Just dim your torch a bit while you think about it.
    OldSailor►Torcer: (06/17/2016) You must realize that if the RNC engineers a way to take the nomination from Trump quite a few million of his diehard supporters will either go 3rd party or just stay home in November. Say hello President Hillary if that happens, 100% certain (source – OldSailor people poll, focus group of 1, margin of error +/- 0.00%) Ask yourself … are you REALLY that desperate to dump Trump that you’re willing to give Hillary 4 years of SCOTUS and other Federal Court nominations?
    OldSailor►Torcer: (06/17/2016) Torcer, I am not a “Trumper.” I didn’t vote for the guy in my state’s primary, needless to say my guy didn’t win. What I am is a realist, I don’t like the dud, er DUDE but realize he is the presumptive Republican candidate. I’m sorry you can’t seem to wrap your mind around that truth, but God help us the only alternative I see to Trump in the White House is that female Attila the Hun the Democraps are sending up. As things stand now we only stand a small chance of stopping her, but if you turkeys manage to torpedo Trump and p!ss off his supporters you stand ZERO chance of stopping Hitlery from moving into the White House.
    Gex►Torcer: (07/05/2016) so why care about my actions……epic fail for you as well as epic hypocrisy…….i’m just following the example that you have given……sorry bout yer luck oswald
    Walter.R►Torcer: (07/13/2016) No matter how you want to describe it, It is a binary choice; hillary or Trump. You have come down on the side of hillary and want other to also. There is nothing more to say.
    Walter.R►Torcer: (07/13/2016) So what is your bottom line because I find your conspiracy theories tiresome. What I read is you want hillary to win. Your analysis of Trump is weak (this is from someone who worked in finance, always turned down opportunities to finance Trump projects and laughed at those who actually did and got burned). If you are blind enough to be convinced by your own conspiracy theories that we need hillary as president then you not really a thinker…but simply a paranoid.
    Walter.R►Torcer: (07/13/2016) Yeah…I already sent that response to one of your other rants. And you still have not explained to me how your WARNING about Trump is anything more than campaigning for hillary. Those are our choices right? You really don’t think there could be anyone else right?
    Walter.R►Torcer: (07/13/2016) And you still have not explained to me how your WARNING about Trump is anything more than campaigning for hillary.
    Mogumbo Gono►Torcer: (08/05/2016) “Trump’s losing will be all Trump’s fault”?? That is errant nonsense u2014 just like people believing it’s ‘Trump’s fault’ that he was nominated. But he beat all sixteen of his opponents, spending less than one-tenth the money they spent. How? He did it with the votes of millions of primary voters. And IF Trump loses, it will be the fault of all the disgruntled crybabies who didn’t get their way. See, in reality it’s YOUR fault. Your psychological “projection” doesn’t work. If you don’t support the nominee, then you’re just a Hillary head-nodder. (And: IANAR) This election comes down to only one question: Do you want Hillary? Or not Hillary?
    Feet2Fire►Torcer: (08/17/2016) There are only TWO viable candidates (although one’s viability is questionable–Hillary). The other so-called “candidates” are merely egomaniacal window dressing, to distract voters and try to sabotage Trump’s success. What advice? Not to worry? Yeah, I do worry when encountering blind, deaf and dumb voters who want to get REVENGE rather than vote for positive change and restoration of America. Anyway– End of discussion. No more resources to waste on voters stuck in some infantile temper-tantrum because their favored candidate was a LOSER. –If the shoe fits… etc.
    Feet2Fire►Torcer: (08/18/2016) Your diatribe had not been read. As said above: End of discussion. No more resources to waste on voters stuck in some infantile temper-tantrum because their favored candidate was a LOSER.
    Grumpy Cat►Torcer: (08/19/2016) The hourly Ted Cruz circle jerk is affecting your brain. Obscure what, exactly?
    F350►Torcer: (08/24/2016) Not being a jerk here, but what viable alternative do you suggest? The other candidates are NOT going to WIN! It’s going to be Trump or Clinton, regardless of what your druthers are. We’ve been sold a bill-of-goods by the GOPe because they talk a good game, roll over, and show their bellies before the polling places are disassembled. Did the “principled” conservatives fight on immigration, Obamacare, or the budget? “What the hell do you have to lose” if Trump wins? What might you gain?
    Jack Bauer►Torcer: (08/25/2016) Not “research” Torcie’— merely clicking on your screen id. that shows the count. Some being repeat messages or not, it seems like it would take more than one person to make all of those posts. Some of us actually have lives with jobs, and family obligations that would preclude so much time spent on a single issue. Of course, if people want to read all the anti-Trump the stuff you post, they don’t need to come here. They can go to Huffpo or Democrat Underground and get the same thing….lol.
    F350►Torcer: (08/25/2016) YES! I absolutely did!! No hesitation, no whining about their history of ignoring the base. I went to the polls and pulled the lever for the “conservative” candidates on the ticket. So Torcer, having extremely low expectations of whether McConnell and Boehner would deliver, I did absolutely everything in my power to help the Republicans have the majority in both the House and Senate. Your move. Knowing your options, what will you do now that the presidential election is looming?
    Cruz Control►Torcer: (08/30/2016) I demand you answer this question: How will voting for a third party loser or not voting at all help keep Hillary out of the White House? Answer the question. You are such a pathetic fool…
    Grumpy Cat►Torcer: (09/06/2016) You do realize that “torcer” in Spanish means “to twist” which is what you do to the truth with every steaming pile of DNC propaganda you leave here. We’ve got you number, Soros troll.
    Grumpy Cat►Torcer: (09/06/2016) “Torcer” = to twist the truth
    The Deplorable EtoculusDei►Torcer: (09/07/2016) Here is your Answer. Anyone who invites a poster to an argument and has a PRIVATE profile is a pathetic internet troll. He is a man…who faced with a million better choices….chooses to spend his entire day arguing with strangers on the internet. Have you ever considered how pathetic THAT is. YOU are a man who would argue all day with a stranger……over which side of a cue ball is more round. What butt cake you are. I think we’re done here. TROLL TRASH ALERT DONT FEED IT BEAT IT
    The Deplorable EtoculusDei►Torcer: (09/07/2016) PRIVATE PROFILE = COWARDLY TROLL TRASH TROLL TRASH ALERT DONT FEED IT BEAT IT!!!!!!
    The Deplorable EtoculusDei►Torcer: (09/07/2016) PRIVATE PROFILE = COWARDLY TROLL TRASH TROLL TRASH ALERT DONT FEED IT BEAT IT!!!!!!
    Grumpy Cat►Torcer: (09/08/2016) The jokes on you, clueless.
    Grumpy Cat►Torcer: (09/08/2016) Linking to Politico and New York Times articles is promoting the truth? You really are a lowly paid troll with severely limited brain power.
    Grumpy Cat►Torcer: (09/08/2016) I know, it really pains you to see “intellectually lazy” and “#NeverTrumper” in the same sentence. The truth hurts no matter how much you blow the Ten Commandments tiny tin trumpet. You pathetic ignoramus.
    Grumpy Cat►Torcer: (09/08/2016) Oh please, would you EFFIN GET A LIFE?!
    Grumpy Cat►Torcer: (09/08/2016) To quote your sock puppet: “I live in your head”
    The Deplorable EtoculusDei►Torcer: (09/08/2016) PRIVATE PROFILE = PATHETIC TROLL TRASH TROLL TRASH ALERT DON’T FEED IT BEAT IT!!!!!!!!
    Grumpy Cat►Torcer: (09/15/2016) Your head is a mug. The DNC propaganda arm is the jug. The jug pours into the mug and the mug pours into the Moonbattery jug. You enjoy working for the DNC?
    Angel►Torcer: (09/17/2016) You did it with your initial argument, i.e., Trump is moving to the left (overstated), so Trump supporters are moving to the left (misrepresented). the whole argument is based on your own suppositions and biases to try to prove a fallacious point. That is a strawman argument.
    Angel►Torcer: (09/17/2016) Try to think logically. This is nearly impossible for a leftist, so this is a test. If you are trying to convince people not to vote for Trump because he is moving to the left, and they all listen to you and not vote for Trump, who do you suppose will win the election? I’ll give you a clue. Not Gary Johnson or Jill Stein. It will be the candidate who we know is a radical leftist.
    Angel►Torcer: (09/18/2016) Gee, what a convincing argument. Please go tell your mother it’s time to put the pajama boy to bed.
    Angel►Torcer: (09/18/2016) Again, I responded with logic. You are implying it. I asked you a question. “So your argument is that we should let the Dem radical leftist win?” You didn’t answer the question. If you can’t understand this, there is no sense continuing. It is pointless arguing with a complete idiot.
    Angel►Torcer: (09/18/2016) Go to bed, pajama boy. I’m too tired for this pointless argument.
    God, the Crotch and NRO►Torcer: (09/18/2016) You’re really are quite dense, aren’t you? But if you insist…
    Belfast►Torcer: (09/21/2016) I would so admire your principles, Torcer. If I believed one single word you say.
    Artfuldgr►Torcer: (10/13/2016) if trump steps aside.. hillary wins.. thye do NOT get to put up a replacement… duh
    Stephen►Torcer: (10/18/2016) Ad hominem attack on sources? You really are a moron. The question was “explain the reports of Trumpers being violent?” The question has been answered–the reports are left wing agitprop. That’s not an ad hom attack on sources, that’s a statement of fact. If you weren’t a moron you’d understand the difference.
    Stephen►Torcer: (10/18/2016) This is how I know you’re a moron: “there were reports of Trump supporters initiating violence – or encouraging it.” Of course there are reports, Moron. There have been plenty of reports. The question was not whether there have been reports, but rather ‘how do we explain the reports?’ “How is the spewing of childish invective and falsehoods supposed to spur someone on to support your candidate?” I couldnt care less how you vote. Im just calling out a useless idiot for being a useless idiot.
    Stephen►Torcer: (10/25/2016) Sorry but I can’t dumb it down enough for you.
    Stephen►Torcer: (10/25/2016) I really can’t dumb this down any further: You mimic smart people’s vocabularies, but you are obviously not terribly bright. I have no interest in debating you on anything because you are not capable of making or comprehending a rational argument. Don’t stalk me, go converse with someone else.
    Duckster1964►Torcer: (10/25/2016) No, I’m talking about the #neverTrump crowd who chose Hitlery over the only other choice…Once there were only two candidates you are either for Trump or Hitlery…The #neverTrump crowd chose to help elect Hitlery…
    Duckster1964►Torcer: (10/25/2016) #neverTrump = #I’mwithher 100%…If you aren’t for Trump you are for Hitlery and no amount of RINO spin will change that…
    Duckster1964►Torcer: (10/25/2016) My statement is a FACT… You are the one peddling spurious assertions’ and your credibility went out the window when you started campaigning for Hitlery…
    Artfuldgr►Torcer: (10/25/2016) dumping trump means hillary… duh
    Feet2Fire►Torcer: (10/26/2016) Am not wasting time trying to awaken a bunch of sleepwalkers in denial. If you cannot see that HILLARY is far worse than Trump, nobody can help you.
    Duckster1964►Torcer: (10/27/2016) Just because you assert something doesn’t make my statement false. You have to prove my facts are wrong by providing real evidence that proves it…Be sure to add plenty of excerpts in your answer…
    TheRealDeplorableVoiceofReason►Torcer: (10/27/2016) None of the 17 had a chance utilizing your calculus. All were DEEPLY flawed. your beef is with the American people that you just couldn’t bully into supporting your proffered loser.
    Feet2Fire►Torcer: (10/28/2016) Am done with your non sequiturs and other miscellaneous nonsense. Am informed enough to know that TRUMP is our only choice and to recognize that some people are still nursing their infantile CRUZ-INJURIES like spoilt brats, so dealing with them is a total waste of time. –Final response. Will not bother with any further interaction with you.
    Paul621►Torcer: (10/28/2016) FACT Torcer, obviously to any thinking person: Torcer is an IDIOT. FACT Now, disprove it, little idiot.
    Paul621►Torcer: (10/28/2016) And a tiresome little idiot as well. But, obviously, little Torcer has learned to cut/paste. Keeps the word count up for Torcer. Wow.
    Paul621►Torcer: (10/28/2016) Little Torcer, let me use little words for you, so that you’ll get it: Like many other Americans, I am hosting a Trump/Pence victory party at my home election night. Is that simple enough for you? Trump by a landslide.
    grayjohn►Torcer: (10/29/2016) No your hard work at making sure she will be president by trashing the only sane alternative. Enjoy the slavery she imposes.
    grayjohn►Torcer: (10/29/2016) This site has been trashing Trump, the only sane alternative, for months now. My credibility is not an issue, your ownership of whatever evil is perpetrated by Hillary IS an issue. You’ll get your way no doubt. but you’ll live to wish you hadn’t.
    calmly_observing►Torcer: (10/31/2016) I see. Is that your retort for every counterargument? “Strawman”. I’ve addressed your words directly. You are now just being trite.
    grayjohn►Torcer: (10/31/2016) It is fact not accusation. And just so you know, you can’t “require” anything from me or anyone else. If you want excerpts go and read your fill on the main page.
    calmly_observing►Torcer: (10/31/2016) Are you really that bewildered by my simple words? It’s like arguing with someone who just keeps saying “nuh uh, nuh uh….”
    calmly_observing►Torcer: (10/31/2016) What puerile attention seeker. You’re nothing more than a link poster with little intelligence to back it up.
    calmly_observing►Torcer: (10/31/2016) You need a meaningful hobby or a live audience to impress. Your energy is wasted here.
    calmly_observing►Torcer: (11/01/2016) I’m aping your shallow but manic behavior.
    calmly_observing►Torcer: (11/01/2016) For the record since you prefer to stay anonymous and operate as a mimic, are you beyond puberty? You act in a way that seems poor camouflage.
    calmly_observing►Torcer: (11/01/2016) You haven’t disproved my original point. By even the narrowest margin. Ball’s in your court sonny.
    Artfuldgr►Torcer: (11/09/2016) awwwwww… poor baby… You were warned you were in a lose lose position as a nevertrumper…. if Clinton won, 60 million wouild blame you. if Trump won, 60 million would remember what you said to them. you would have done much better NOT declaring your membership in a failed fringe segment of a Rino section of the republican party
    Artfuldgr►Torcer: (11/09/2016) Torcer… your marginalized yourself… along with others. duh…. you have no seat at any table now… you think republicans would trust that branch that went agains their own? you think dems would take you in? go ahead, start that new party, no one is listening any more. go play with the dems you wanted to win… You played your hand, aces and eights and thats that.. . the cards fall where they land…
    Belfast►Torcer: (11/11/2016) The rehabilitation ploy doesn’t work, Torcer Go and cry in Dave’s beer. He is too upset to drink it.
    Artfuldgr►Torcer: (11/12/2016) we have no idea what they are referring to and you have already demonstrated that you confuse your own imagination and self internal straw men that you believe you know despite not being in the meeting, trump making no clear statement, and listening to the liberal press that lies even when telling the truth is ok…
    Artfuldgr►Torcer: (11/12/2016) keep listening to the same press that told you trump was losing, and Hillary was in a landslide, and the other lies… they punked you into irrelevancy…
    toheckwithyou►Torcer: (02/28/2017) You are such a loser
    Zachriel►Torcer: (06/08/2017) We answered that question. Then you attempted to fallaciously load the question with a reference to something called the “national socialist media”. We answered your original question, then asked the relevance, something you have refused to engage.
    Zachriel►Torcer: (06/09/2017) As already stated, we reject the premise of your loaded question.

  50. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer considers Donald Trump the Worst

    Torcer►jayeS: (03/23/2016) Leftist Trumpers support the man even more BECAUSE he is the worst candidate possible so their candidate can win in November.
    Torcer►TED: (04/06/2016) Those on the Left simply want the worst candidate possible against Comrade Clinton and thus don’t care how bad Trump stumbles – if fact that makes them support the man even more.
    Torcer: (05/09/2016) You were able to force Donald, the worst possible candidate on the GOP you could.
    Torcer►toheckwithyou: (05/23/2016) No, if that befalls the nation it will be the fault of Trump supporters forcing the worst possible candidate on the party. Did you fully vet your choice? Yes or No?
    Torcer►toheckwithyou: (06/07/2016) YOU are doing her bidding choosing the worst possible candidate for the party.
    Torcer►Troy McClure: (06/21/2016) Not to mention all of the leftists who wanted to pick the worst candidate possible for the GOP.
    Torcer: (08/20/2016) Those who supported the worst possible candidate.
    Torcer►wTallaksen: (08/31/2016) Yes, they insisted on backing the worst possible candidate and now somehow it’s our fault for his failings.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/21/2016) Yes, it was a win-win for them, they were able to get the GOP to nominate the worst possible candidate while knowing he was the furthest left of the choices.
    Torcer: (10/03/2016) The problem is that trumpers ignored this advice and went with one of the worst candidates ever fielded by the party.
    Torcer: (10/18/2016) Thanks Trumpers for insisting the worst possible candidate on the national socialist left be opposed by the second worst candidate.
    Torcer►Duckster1964: (10/25/2016) Are you referring to those who helped Comrade Clinton by supporting the worst candidate possible – the one the left WANTED to run against?
    Torcer►HARVEY POON GRABBER STEIN: (10/25/2016) Are you confirming that Trump is the worst?
    Torcer►HARVEY POON GRABBER STEIN: (10/25/2016) Are you confirming that Trump is the worst?
    Torcer►Johnny Monday: (10/28/2016) Clearly you cannot explain that phenomena without revealing that the man doesn’t want to win and that you and your fellow Trumpers have fallen for history’s biggest scam™

  51. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer Says Trump is Going to Lose – and Other Observations

    Torcer: (02/26/2016) This is the danger of the Trump candidacy – it will very likely destroy the Republican party – whether or not he wins in November…..
    Torcer►douglas: (03/07/2016) The combination will eviscerate The Trump campaign, and without ANY other means of countering the onslaught Trump will lose and the national Socialist Left will win and you trump supporters will see THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you wanted.
    Torcer►trump 1: (03/08/2016) The combination will eviscerate The Trump campaign, and without ANY other means of countering the onslaught Trump will lose and the national Socialist Left will win and you trump supporters will see THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you wanted.
    Torcer►awake: (03/16/2016) What is the point in nominating Trump who the polls show he can’t win?
    Torcer►Fiberal: (03/16/2016) We oppose Trump because he is going to lose in the general election based on the polls.
    Torcer►awake: (03/16/2016) What is the point in nominating Trump who the polls show He can’t win?
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (03/16/2016) What is the point in nominating Trump who the polls show can’t win? The biggest scam in history?
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (03/18/2016) Have you read the articles that show Trump can’t win?
    Torcer►mauser 98: (04/03/2016) What is the point in nominating Trump when the polls show he is going to lose?
    Torcer►mauser 98: (04/04/2016) Again: What is the point in nominating Trump when the polls show he is going to lose? You can expect to see this question UNTIL you answer it.
    Torcer►mauser 98: (04/04/2016) Again: What is the point in nominating Trump when the polls show he is going to lose? You can expect to see this question UNTIL you answer it.
    Torcer►mauser 98: (04/05/2016) Again: What is the point in nominating Trump when the polls show he is going to lose? You can expect to see this question UNTIL you answer it.
    Torcer►mauser 98: (04/05/2016) Again: What is the point in nominating Trump when the polls show he is going to lose? You can expect to see this question UNTIL you answer it.
    Torcer►mauser 98: (04/05/2016) Again: What is the point in nominating Trump when the polls show he is going to lose? You can expect to see this question UNTIL you answer it.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (04/06/2016) Is there any point in nominating Trump who is destined to lose in the general election?
    Torcer►Willard J Clinton: (04/13/2016) If he can’t win – and the polling shows that to be the case, there is no point in nominating him.
    Torcer: (05/01/2016) It should be clear that those who ignore the manifest evidence that Donald will LOSE to Comrade Clinton are Leftists who want that result.
    Torcer: (05/04/2016) First of all the polling and analysis shows that Donner and his party will be eviscerated in the general election.
    Torcer: (06/06/2016) It is my contention that Trump wants to lose. Consider the facts on the ground – since he’s ‘won’ the nomination he’s refused to follow the tried and true strategy of pivoting to the general election contest. Instead of focusing on the general election the man is making all manner of unforced errors.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (06/12/2016) Can you explain Trump’s unforced errors as something other that wanting to lose?
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (06/12/2016) So you cannot explain the Donald’s actions as something OTHER than wanting to lose… as expected.
    Torcer: (06/15/2016) (entire post)
    Torcer►Bully: (06/17/2016) The problem is that trump is destined to lose..
    Torcer►Tom: (06/18/2016) The informed choice on who to support – Avoiding someone who is so massively flawed that he is destined to lose.
    Torcer►OldSailor: (06/18/2016) We are sure to lose with Trump while destroying conservatism at the same time.
    Torcer►Troy McClure: (06/21/2016) Not only will Trump lose the general contest but he will have a ‘reverse coattails effect’ and we will lose the Congress to boot along with the supreme court.
    Torcer►TED: (06/24/2016) Most if not all indications are that with Trump we will lose anyway.
    Torcer: (07/08/2016) Looks like people are noticing that Trump doesn’t seem to want to win
    Torcer: (07/10/2016) It pretty much looks like the point is to preempt someone point out that millions of those on the nationals socialist left want Trump because he is destined to lose to her. You people could try to be more intelligent and creative and actually try debating the issue at hand instead of confirming the thesis contained within the piece.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/25/2016) The problem for you is that I can wait days if not weeks to inquire on the issue I raised about Trump’s actions.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/08/2016) Given that it appears that the point of Trump’s candidacy is a Comrade Clinton win those supporting Trump by extension are supporting her.
    Torcer►Mr. Freemarket: (08/10/2016) It appears that Trump is doing everything he can to lose and ‘enable Hillary’
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/11/2016) My guess is that Trump will flame out so badly that my vote won’t even matter..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/20/2016) Again:Trump’s campaign is sinking and you don’t think they should try something else to salvage it?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/20/2016) No, the point is that trump candidacy is a disaster of epic proportions. Can you at least acknowledge that?
    Torcer►F350: (08/25/2016) And thanks to Trump supporters the odds are he going to lose when we should have won running away….
    Torcer►F350: (08/25/2016) And thanks to Trump supporters the odds are he going to LOSE when we should have won running away….
    Torcer►Torcer: (09/02/2016) Please note that as usual kirklesWorth is having trouble dealing with the reality of the situation. Instead of dealing with the FACT that Trump is not doing everything he can to defeat Comrade Clinton.. Hmm could we say that his lack of effort ‘should not be passed over without credit.’?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/18/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Stephen: (10/18/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/19/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Stephen: (10/19/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/19/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/20/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/20/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/20/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►762×51: (10/20/2016) It is still my contention that he wasn’t supposed to win in the first place. Consider that at one point a few weeks ago he was on a winning streak – the polling shows that. Look at the time period around the first debate: Specifically the inflection point around the start of the month where he went from a steady increase to a sudden decline. Then he changed his tactics and started losing, why would someone do that?
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (10/26/2016) Exactly – had the Trumpers taken the time to become INFORMED they would have realised that he was a deeply flawed candidate who had no chance of winning.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (10/26/2016) Trump is a deeply flawed candidate without any disciple or sufficient ground game who will lose because of his actions.
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/29/2016) Given that he’s down in the polls and is going to lose anyway, why not vote on principle and give it a go with the 3rd party choices?
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (01/26/2017) Parenthetically part of the reason many were not ‘enthused’ about the Trump candidacy was that he would lose – the polling averages told the tale.

  52. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer Rejects Valid Reasons to Vote for Trump

    Apparently, the following reasons were not good enough to vote for Trump, lest they be “superficial”, “canards”, “old standbys”, “perfunctory non-answers”, or not “real”:

    ● To defeat Hillary
    ● To support the GOP / republican candidate

    Torcer: (06/24/2016) Do you understand that you trump supporters have to offer reasons to vote FOR your candidate aside from the tired ‘But Hillary’ canard?
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (06/24/2016) Do you understand that you Trump supporters have to offer reasons to vote FOR your candidate aside from the tired ‘But Hillary’ canard?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) Do you actually have reasons to vote for Donald? Something other than the reason you keep on repeating..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/27/2016) What are your reasons to vote for Trump aside from Comrade Clinton.
    Torcer: (07/27/2016) Why are his trolls infesting these threads attacking anyone who dares express an opinion on Trump but cannot detail the reasons they favor a certain candidate aside from certain superficialities? Their actions only reinforce the validity of the article.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/28/2016) Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN. [Something OTHER than he’s the GOP Nominee]
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/28/2016) This quote proves that to be the case because you have refused to answer beyond superficialities:
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/28/2016) Now, were you were a TRUE Trump supporter you would have a number of reasons beyond your ‘republican candidate’ non-answer.
    Torcer: (07/31/2016) Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN. [Something OTHER than he’s the gop nominee]
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/31/2016) Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN. [Something OTHER than he’s the GOP Nominee]
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/31/2016) Now is the time for you to sell Trump’s candidacy – IF YOU CAN. [Something OTHER than he’s the GOP Nominee]
    Torcer►762×51: (08/01/2016) Despite repeated attempts to try and elicit answers as to why one should Trump – aside from the old standby involving Comrade Clinton.
    Torcer: (08/02/2016) Plese post an excerpt of where you have listed out the reasons to vote For Trump aside from the GOP nominee rationale. Real reasons please.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/02/2016) Plese post an excerpt of where you have listed out the reasons to vote For Trump aside from the GOP nominee rationale. Real reasons please.
    Torcer: (08/07/2016) As a supposed ‘Trump supporter’ how are you advocating for Trump aside from the non-answer “he’s the nominee”?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/08/2016) The please post excerpts of those reasons – aside from your perfunctory non-answer
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/09/2016) The please post excerpts of those reasons – aside from your perfunctory non-answer.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/09/2016) The please post excerpts of those reasons – aside from your perfunctory non-answer
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/09/2016) The please post excerpts of those reasons – aside from your perfunctory non-answer.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/18/2016) The please post excerpts of those reasons – aside from your perfunctory non-answer
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/20/2016) The please post excerpts of those reasons – aside from your perfunctory non-answer

  53. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer‘s “How many articles have you posted?” Defense

    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/16/2016) How many articles has Dave posted that YOU recommended? That’s assuming you’ve bloody well posted something useful for once.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/17/2016) How many articles has Dave posted that YOU recommended? That’s assuming you’ve posted something useful for once.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/18/2016) Why haven’t you posted any articles on Comrade Clinton?…
    Torcer: (08/20/2016) How many articles criticizing Comrade Clinton have I posted? How many have YOU posted?
    Torcer►Tom: (08/31/2016) How many articles have you posted on Comrade Clinton? Or are you too busy attacking principled Conservatives?
    Torcer►Tom: (08/31/2016) 2. Can you answer my question please: How many articles have you posted on Comrade Clinton?
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (09/03/2016) It would be interesting to apply the random ‘logic’ employed by KirklesWorth and see just how many ant-Hillary posts it’s recommended. Having not recommended that many or none at all could we say that it is Pro-Hillary?
    Torcer: (09/03/2016) Bonus question: How many anti-Hillary articles have you or KirklesWorth recommended?
    Torcer: (09/03/2016) Bonus question: How many anti-Hillary articles have you or KirklesWorth recommended?
    Torcer►Tom: (09/04/2016) BTW, How many anti-Hillary articles have YOU recommended?
    Torcer: (09/04/2016) How many anti-Hillary articles has it recommended?
    Torcer: (09/04/2016) Bonus question: How many anti-Hillary articles have you or KirklesWorth recommended?
    Torcer►Grumpy Cat: (09/06/2016) Bonus question: How many anti-Hillary articles have you or KirklesWorth recommended?
    Torcer►Grumpy Cat: (09/06/2016) Bonus question: How many anti-Hillary articles have you or KirklesWorth recommended?
    Torcer: (09/06/2016) Perhaps it should look at How many articles of Comrade Clinton it’s recommended.. or even posted.
    Torcer►Grumpy Cat: (09/06/2016) Bonus question: How many anti-Hillary articles have you or KirklesWorth recommended?
    Torcer: (09/06/2016) Perhaps it should look at How many articles of Comrade Clinton it’s recommended.. or even posted.
    Torcer: (09/07/2016) Perhaps it should look at How many articles of Comrade Clinton it’s recommended.. or even posted.
    Torcer►762×51: (09/07/2016) Note that they are all concerned about Comrade Clinton but how many articles about her have they recommended?
    Torcer►Grumpy Cat: (09/07/2016) Bonus question: How many anti-Hillary articles have you or KirklesWorth recommended?
    Torcer►Cruz Control: (09/07/2016) Note that they are all concerned about Comrade Clinton but How many articles about her have they recommended?
    Torcer►Grumpy Cat: (09/08/2016) How many articles slamming Comrade Clinton have you posted?
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (11/18/2016) I haven’t actually taken notice How many articles on certain subject you’ve recommended. I don’t have time to pursue irrelevant factoids such as that, unlike others around here..
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (12/23/2016) One additional point: How many articles has she posted?

  54. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer‘s Histrionics and Faux Persecution Complex

    Torcer: (02/26/2016) This is the danger of the Trump candidacy – it will very likely destroy the Republican party – whether or not he wins in November….. This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.
    Torcer►Walter.R: (07/13/2016) Why would I be enduing [sic] this abuse for you people were that the case.
    Torcer►Walter.R: (07/13/2016) Why would I be enduing [sic] this abuse for you people were that the case.
    Torcer►Walter.R: (07/13/2016) Why would I be enduing [sic] this abuse for you people were that the case.
    Torcer►Walter.R: (07/13/2016) Why would I be enduing [sic] this abuse for you people were that the case.
    Torcer►762×51: (07/13/2016) Note that our ‘friend’ who purports to be a Trump supporter doesn’t actually try to tout his candidacy but instead attacks Conservatives seeding chaos and dividing the right.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/25/2016) Do you you really think that people will respond positively to that kind of onslaught?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) You are also aptly demonstrating that you would rather attack Conservative than try to sell Trump’s candidacy.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) You are also aptly demonstrating that you would rather attack Conservative than try to sell Trump’s candidacy.Why don’t you try doing that without invoking the name ‘Hillary’
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) You are also aptly demonstrating that you would rather attack Conservative than try to sell Trump’s candidacy.
    Torcer►NotKennedy: (07/27/2016) Please not that comrade ‘KirklesWorth’ tends to utilize the very same tactics and techniques used by the SJW’s.
    Torcer►762×51: (07/28/2016) Those who are truly supporters of Trump should be worried about imposters who delight in sowing chaos and confusion.
    Torcer: (08/01/2016) This explains why there are certain blokes around here who cannot sell Trump’s candidacy but insist on attacking conservatives:
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/01/2016) With these attacks against Conservatives being on long dead threads in a pointless waste of time.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/01/2016) This only confirms these are deliberate actions against Trump as part of the plan to elect Comrade Clinton.
    Torcer: (08/02/2016) Once again we see it attacking conservatives with baseless accusations.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/02/2016) Once again we see it attacking conservatives with baseless accusations.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/02/2016) Are you denying all the posts you’ve made here attacking conservatives?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/02/2016) Are you repudiating ALL of the posts you made here attacking conservatives?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/04/2016) BTW, once again you show your predilection to attack conservatives instead of trying to boast the candidacy of the man you supposedly support.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/07/2016) The key indicator here is that ‘KirklesWorth’ expends an inordinate amount of effort in attacking conservatives (Something it claimed to be ) than advocating for the candidate is supposedly supports.
    Torcer: (08/09/2016) Here we see a prime example of the SJW tactic of the Projection accusation, whereby the perpetrator projects what they are engaging in to preempt the charge back at them.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/09/2016) Incessant attacks from the likes of ‘kirklesWorth’ does not help the situation. One would surmise that IF it were actually advocating for Trump it would drop the attacks and try to sell his candidacy.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/09/2016) Actually you are the one doing that with your incessant attacks.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/10/2016) They instead spend an inordinate amount of time attacking people and driving people away from the candidate they supposedly support.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (08/10/2016) And KirklesWorth is doing it’s level best to drive them away with it’s incessant attacks. Note that it Failed to even address the points I made.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/11/2016) Yes, instead of trying to tout Trump’s advantages it resorts to SJW tactics attacking those who are truly concerned about the direction of the nation.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/11/2016) Gotta love those Comrades who attack conservatives and drive them away from supporting Trump and risk a Hillary presidency.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/11/2016) No, Instead of ‘defending’ the man you incessantly harass those who dare point out the man’s issues.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (08/17/2016) Please also note that KirklesWorth uses the classic SJW technique of deflecting a question with another off topic question.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/17/2016) You can do that without incessantly attacking conservatives… Perhaps you should try being constructive for once.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/17/2016) Again: You can do that without incessantly attacking conservatives… Perhaps you should try being constructive for once.
    Torcer►FrozenPatriot: (08/18/2016) They could spend their time trying to advocate for Trump and attack Comrade Clinton, but instead they incessantly attack those of us who dare mention a discouraging word about Don.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/20/2016) Yes, just look at the abuse supposed trump ‘supporter’ KirklesWorth subjects everyone to.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/22/2016) It [KirklesWorth] first attacked me on an old thread dated before the convention on a posting I had made pleading with people to reconsider supporting Trump.. and of course it did that AFTER the convention and went on from there..
    Torcer►762×51: (08/23/2016) One would think that were it [KirklesWorth] to be worried about Trump’s campaign that it would be elsewhere fighting the good fight against the national socialist left.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/26/2016) I’m afraid I can’t add much to your words, but consider the fact that the little proggie running around trying to annoy everyone has a disturbing tendency to scrupulously avoids revealing to much about herself, lest she be shown for what she is.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/28/2016) Their actions show their underlying motivations. Instead of going after the national socialist left they attack us – why?
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/30/2016) But that doesn’t stop some from trying to demonize others.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/30/2016) Yes, there has been a bit too much of that as of late. Especially those who insist of harassing others with petty insults instead of trying to convey information. Are you referring to kirklesWorth ? by any chance? Perhaps we all should abstain from engaging in it’s endless irritations…
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/30/2016) Addendum: It also has a tendency to use Strawman arguments in it’s obsession over which I have no say.
    Torcer►Tom: (08/31/2016) How many articles have you posted on Comrade Clinton? Or are you too busy attacking principled Conservatives?
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/02/2016) It first attacked me on a very old thread over an open letter I had posted Before the convention pleading with people to reconsider the choice of Trump. It did this after the convention which had chanced the situation immensely. Being an old thread no one else was around observe it’s tactics that are very reminiscent to that of the SJW’s.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/02/2016) A prime example is it’s incessant repetition of the falsehood that reporting on Trump means one is supposedly a Comrade Clinton supporter based on it’s obsession with the number of articles I’ve recommended.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/02/2016) Fortunately you haven’t been plagued by KirklesWorth – but for some odd reason it tends to go after people on old threads seemingly trying to waste their time for unknown reasons. It would seem that it does this to maintain an air of reasonableness to most on the site.
    Torcer►762×51: (09/06/2016) This is one of the major reasons that many consider the Trump candidacy so disquieting. He along with his supporters have a authoritarian a bent to their rhetoric, in that they will go after those they deem to be not falling in line with them.
    Torcer►762×51: (09/06/2016) In this case we have one of his ‘supporters’ who has an issue with other people’s freedom of speech and thusly attacks other based some arbitrary rules it’s decided people have to follow.
    Torcer: (09/07/2016) IT cannot allow the conversation to turn to what IT hasn’t done, so it has to keep on repeating the same mantra to avoid the subject.
    Torcer: (09/07/2016) Clearly it cannot accede to the conversation verging into the dangerous territory
    Torcer►762×51: (09/07/2016) Look at what animates them – Kirkles et al. are displaying a very authoritarian bent. It’s supposed to be a free-country where one can recommend or post whatever they want, and yet Kirkles et al. want that everyone accede to their demands or else that are and repeatedly incessantly attacked with all manner of childish invective and false charges.
    Torcer►Grumpy Cat: (09/08/2016) Amusing that it’s waste so much of it’s time studying meaningless numbers and disturbing that it has an authoritarian bent in trying to dictate what people can post.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/09/2016) Once again we see the disturbing authoritarian bent of some: To review – this is the re-posting of it’s continued carping on a trivial issue from over a MONTH AGO:
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/13/2016) Since you’ve chosen to interject yourself into the discussion, then perhaps you should be the one to explain to KirklesWorth that it’s moral relativistic double standards DO NOT make a convincing argument. Merely declaring an ANSWER to an excessively trivial and off-topic question as a Pseudo-answer DOES NOT suddenly turn my statement of truth into a alleged lie.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/13/2016) Please note that a predilection for moral relativism is very indicative of the left, along with their use of Alinsky tactics. Especially their use of the rule: Which by all indications are what they are trying to do with yours truly. So your helping them in this endeavour is not appreciated.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/14/2016) I would do so IF Kirkles had the common decency either stop lying or start backing up it’s lies with facts. As many around here have discovered, it is a pointless exercise to try and have an honest discussion with someone who responses to posts with a litany of additional questions. Thus the only way respond is to show everyone it’s duplicity and lack of respect for a proper discussion of ideas. But this is why it keeps on complaining about the same thing over and over. A prime indication of the ideological bent of certain persons here and about is a predilection for moral relativism.
    Torcer: (09/15/2016) It’s still a free country, and those of an authoritarian bent do not get to Dictate how one posts around here.
    Torcer►762×51: (09/18/2016) Yes, we were the ones informed and standing on generally accepted principles and supposedly we’re the ‘sheep’….
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/18/2016) BTW, this exchange illustrates exactly why it’s pointless to respond to it [KirklesWorth] directly. It had tried to disparage my remarks with regard to trump and instead of dealing with that point it goes off into another direction. This aside from it’s incessant predilection of trying to distract with issues that have ALREADY been dealt with.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/18/2016) And with it’s authoritarian bent it has decided that responding somewhere else is verboten.
    Torcer►grayjohn: (10/28/2016) And what our hard work in dealing with the name calling and petty and childish insults we had to endure for trying to inform you people of this upcoming disaster?
    Torcer►762×51: (11/17/2016) It’s getting mighty tiresome that one cannot make a comment around here without being assaulted with such facile tripe. I also found it disturbing that it somehow thinks that since he won that our right of free-speech has been negated.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (11/18/2016) But maybe you’re like me and you are simply posting news items without bothering with any forms of censorship. And thus random chance will see you attracting the ire of those who do not care for the concept of free-speech.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (11/21/2016) It would seem like some merely engage in that behaviour for the underlying purpose of shutting down debate and driving people away.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/13/2017) Why are you obsessing over a non-existent issue?
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/15/2017) There are those around here who have a somewhat unique method of debate that can be tiresome at times. Especially when it doesn’t actually put forward an intellectual argument and instead incessantly attacks with lies and falsehoods. I have much better things to do than having to respond to arguments over minutia, and its doubly infuriating when someone uses projection in their accusations.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/19/2017) Some of the reports coming out are very disturbing with regard to the future of the country, and we would be much better served debating the issues on an adult level than initiating attacks meant to punish and waste time as well as dwelling in the past.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/19/2017) I thought that was the case as well, but it is apparent from the responses I’m getting that actions taken against me, that really isn’t the case. Particularly with regard to the tactic of initiating attacks against me in old threads. This has no discernible purpose than the punish someone out of sight so that she looks reasonable.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/19/2017) Why are you trying to Control what other people are discussing?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/20/2017) And once again KirklesWorth displays it’s prowess for projection in complaining about such tactics while engaging in the practice!
    Torcer►TED: (09/21/2017) One does have to wonder why it is incessantly attacking those of us on the Conservative Right…
    Torcer►Mr. Freemarket: (09/28/2017) It also explain why KirklesWorth attacks conservatives.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) So are you going go through your usual method of attacking Conservatives with long screeds over past events?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) So once again it has FAILED to proves it’s point. Note that it merely wants to imply something without actually PROVING anything. And once again it failed making an intellectual argument as was the original point. The question still remains as to who has the time to the time to write these long screeds.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) Before you demand that I address your post – you need to respond to this: Note that it originated the tactic of initiating attacks on old threads. KirklesWorth You are obviously oblivious to the use of your own tactics Okay, everyone… today’s word is irony in that it originated the tactic of initiating attacks on old threads.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) Are you serious? You initialed countless attacks – are you denying this Fact?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) Why don’t you put more effort in addressing my question than Avoiding it: Perhaps for once we can try to elicit an honest and open opinion from KirklesWorth on this turn of events.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) Are you serious? You initialed countless attacks – are you denying this Fact?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) Again, it is based on information you do NOT have. Therefore it is false. Clearly you cannot address that issue.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) Ohh.. scare quotes, again you are implying something based on information you do not have – therefore it is False
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) Clearly the originator of attacks against Conservatives cannot address that question. Just as it cannot address the question of it attacking conservatives.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) What are your referring to? Do you understand that that is a subjective standard. That there is a vast difference between fact and opinion? TRY AGAIN
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) I can appreciate your position here – you have to avoid saying too much or engaging in debate, so you assail everyone with endless postings of what they have said in the past as cover for that lack of debate. You have to accuse others of what you do in spades in order to muddy the waters and confuse everyone as to who you truly are.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) Clearly the originator of attacks against Conservatives cannot address that question. Just as it cannot address the question of it attacking conservatives.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) Remember that long screed when you DEMAND that someone prove you use them to avoid addressing the issue at present.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) How do you have so much time to wast endlessly posting those long screeds?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) And now instead of debating the issue it trots outs ‘Rules for Radicals’ and desperately tries to accuse other of what is does. Clearly we are dealing with someone without any moral grounding..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) I can appreciate your position here – you have to avoid saying too much or engaging in debate, so you assail everyone with endless postings of what they have said in the past as cover for that lack of debate. You have to accuse others of what you do in spades in order to muddy the waters and confuse everyone as to who you truly are.

  55. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer Blames Trump Supporters

    Torcer►douglas: (03/07/2016) Trump supporters will see THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you wanted.
    Torcer►trump 1: (03/08/2016) Trump supporters will see THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you wanted.
    Torcer: (05/09/2016) We tried to inform you that Donald had Mafia Ties. Let me make it Clear to you trump supporters, the epic disaster of nominating him will be on YOUR shoulders, not on those who were intelligent enough to try and avoid it. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You ignored that information.
    Torcer: (05/09/2016) You people should be proud! You were able to force Donald, the worst possible candidate on the GOP you could. And now you can blame someone else for YOUR actions – for leftists it’s just doesn’t’ get any better than that!
    Torcer: (05/12/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot.
    Torcer: (05/12/2016) Let me make it Clear to you Trump supporters, the epic disaster of nominating him will be on YOUR shoulders, not on those who were intelligent enough to try and avoid it. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man.
    Torcer: (05/12/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We tried to inform you of ….. This doesn’t even mention all the minor issues like hand size and all the attendant ridicule from issues like that And of course there is the underlying idea that all of this is merely a vehicle for comrade Clinton to win via. Trump stealing the nomination and then doing all he can to lose in the general And these are just items known of during the primary season – who knows what the media will dig up
    Torcer: (05/17/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man.
    Torcer: (05/17/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man.
    Torcer►DevNull: (05/17/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man.
    Torcer: (05/17/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man.
    Torcer: (05/20/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot.
    Torcer►Tom: (05/21/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man.
    Torcer►toheckwithyou: (05/23/2016) No, if that befalls the nation it will be the fault of Trump supporters forcing the worst possible candidate on the party. Did you fully vet your choice? Yes or No?
    Torcer►762×51: (06/06/2016) Yes, that is the most disconcerting part of all of this. Some Conservatives have been taken in by this latest scam from Trump and they are about to commit the biggest mistake in the history of the republic.
    Torcer►toheckwithyou: (06/07/2016) YOU are doing her bidding choosing the worst possible candidate for the party.
    Torcer►IslandLifer: (06/12/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man.
    Torcer►OldSailor: (06/17/2016) We’re not the ones handing the victory to Comrade Clinton – You Trumpers are the ones doing that.
    Torcer►Tom: (06/18/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man.
    Torcer: (07/19/2016) Can we attribute the myriad unforced errors made by Trump and his Trumpers as being an assist to Hillary?
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (07/20/2016) We need to distance ourselves from the SJW tactics of the Trumpers as elucidated in the video.
    Torcer►Grumpy Cat: (07/21/2016) Can we attribute the myriad unforced errors made by Trump and his Trumpers as being an assist to Hillary?
    Torcer►Mogumbo Gono: (08/07/2016) 4. It will be the fault of those who FORCED a deeply flawed candidate on the rest of the party – In other words TRUMP SUPPORTERS 5. There are more than 2 people running other than Trump, and if he doesn’t DROP OUT the disaster will be on the shoulders of those who supported him in this endeavour.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/11/2016) Sadly, I suspect most of them will run away before that eventuality takes place. That still will not save them from their guilt at what they did to this great nation.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/11/2016) Gotta love those Comrades who attack conservatives and drive them away from supporting Trump and risk a Hillary presidency.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/19/2016) If they were truly Conservative they would be taking responsibility for their actions.
    Torcer: (08/20/2016) #ThanksTrumpers Republicans prep ‘break glass’ emergency plan as Trump tumbles
    Torcer►762×51: (08/23/2016) Whichever way you say it, the central theme is the same – They will be responsible for falling for Histories Biggest Scam™
    Torcer►762×51: (08/24/2016) It’s actually kind of amusing how Trumpers are twisting themselves in notes trying to rationalize his mother of all flip-flops.
    Torcer►F350: (08/25/2016) And thanks to Trump supporters the odds are he going to lose when we should have won running away….
    Torcer►FiscalCon: (08/27/2016) Couldn’t said it better – It’s the Trump supporters with their uniformed choice that wrought this upon the land.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/27/2016) The Trumpers should look in the mirror if they want to see who is at fault.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/28/2016) The proggies that persist in promoting the failed candidacy of Jeb Trump will be the ones at fault for what happens in November.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/28/2016) Their actions show their underlying motivations. Instead of going after the national socialist left they attack us – why? They recoil at the thought of the man destined to lose to their favoured would KEEP HIS PROMISE and drop out and at the least unburdening the rest of the GOP ticket. They simplistically parrot the 2 candidates mantras neglecting the FACT that the Congress in also in play – why is that also the case?
    Torcer►wTallaksen: (08/31/2016) Yes, they insisted on backing the worst possible candidate and now somehow it’s our fault for his failings.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (09/03/2016) Yes, as I’ve said repeatedly.. they should have taken the time to become informed on the issues and the candidates. If they had we could have avoided this calamity.
    Torcer►762×51: (09/27/2016) I dare say that many a trumper will soon slink off when it becomes clear what they have done.
    Torcer►762×51: (10/20/2016) One would think that now that their hero is going down to defeat and they are partially responsible for what happens to the nation that they would scurry off and hide somewhere.
    Torcer►More Cuck Lies: (10/25/2016) Do you understand that YOU are the cause of the oncoming Hillary disaster? Perhaps you should have taken the time to become INFORMED so we could have AVOIDED this disaster YOU CAUSED.
    Torcer►TheRealDeplorableVoiceofReason: (10/26/2016) This is applicable to YOU: you are only two weeks out from destroying America.
    Torcer►TheRealDeplorableVoiceofReason: (10/26/2016) Those of us who took the time to become INFORMED will not be responsible for what You Trumpers have wrought.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (10/26/2016) He and the Trumpers will only have themselves to blame for this disaster.
    Torcer: (11/07/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man.
    Torcer: (11/07/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man.

  56. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer Tactic: “Where did I…[advocate/say/state/etc.]

    Torcer►Hans Pfall: (01/25/2016) Where did i say that?
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (03/13/2016) And where did i term it that way?
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (03/13/2016) And where did i term it that way?
    Torcer►IslandLifer: (03/18/2016) Yes I did – where did it make those assertions as claimed? It’s EASY to make a claim of that nature – but without an excerpt it is woefully unproven.
    Torcer►Lockstein13: (03/30/2016) Where did i do that?
    Torcer►Tom: (07/13/2016) Where did i state that?
    Torcer►Walter.R: (07/13/2016) Where did i state any of that?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/22/2016) Please cite where I mentioned that term. You will have to cite a except of my using that term.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/22/2016) No, it doesn’t work that way. Again: Please cite where I mentioned that term. You will have to post an except of my using that term.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) Where did i state that?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/27/2016) Where did i state that?
    Torcer: (08/02/2016) Where did i state that?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/02/2016) Where did i state that?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/02/2016) Answer the question please: Where did i state that?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/02/2016) Where did i state that?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/02/2016) Stop trying to deflect the argument. Answer the question please: where did i state that? Your answer will include an excerpt or it will be invalid.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/08/2016) No, where did i say all of that? You will have to post an excerpt.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/08/2016) No, where did i say all of that? You will have to post an excerpt.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/08/2016) Where did you post and excerpt of my stating that of which you claimed?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/08/2016) No, where did i say all of that? You will have to post an excerpt.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/08/2016) Where did you post an excerpt of my stating that of which you claimed?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/09/2016) Where did you post an excerpt of my stating that of which you claimed?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/09/2016) No, where did i say all of that? You will have to post an excerpt.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/09/2016) No, where did i say all of that? You will have to post an excerpt.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/09/2016) Where did you post an excerpt of my stating that of which you claimed?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/17/2016) Where did i advocate those items?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/17/2016) Where did i advocate those items?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/18/2016) Where did I say that? Please cite my exact quote.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/18/2016) Where did I say that? Again Please cite my exact quote
    Torcer►Angel: (09/17/2016) Where did i supposedly do that with YOUR argument?
    Torcer►calmly_observing: (10/29/2016) Where did i say those exact words? Please post an excerpt in you answer.
    Torcer►calmly_observing: (10/30/2016) Where did i say those exact words? Please post the excerpt in your answer
    Torcer►Fiberal: (10/30/2016) Where did i say those exact words? Please post an excerpt in you answer else your credibility will have been eviscerated.
    Torcer: (10/31/2016) Where did i say those exact words?
    Torcer►calmly_observing: (10/31/2016) Where did i say those exact words? Please post the excerpt in your answer
    Torcer►calmly_observing: (10/31/2016) Where did i say those exact words? Please post the excerpt in your answer
    Torcer►calmly_observing: (10/31/2016) Where did i say those exact words? Please post the excerpt in your answer
    Torcer►calmly_observing: (10/31/2016) Where did i say those exact words? Please post the excerpt in your answer
    Torcer: (10/31/2016) And When where did i state that? That manner of falsehood will require an excerpt, your trying to use the ‘wild goose chase’ scam will not fit the bill.
    Torcer: (10/31/2016) Again When where did i state that? As with your previous falsehood, you will need to post an excerpt, else you will have eviscerated your credibility here.
    Torcer►calmly_observing: (11/01/2016) Where did i say those exact words? Please post the excerpt in your answer
    Torcer►calmly_observing: (11/01/2016) Where did i say those exact words? Please post the excerpt in your answer
    Torcer►Fiberal: (11/03/2016) And When where did i state that? That manner of falsehood will require an excerpt, your trying to use the ‘wild goose chase’ scam will not fit the bill.
    Torcer►Fiberal: (11/03/2016) Again When where did i state that? As with your previous falsehood, you will need to post an excerpt, else you will have eviscerated your credibility here.
    Torcer►Artfuldgr: (11/09/2016) Where did i say that? Please post the appropriate excerpts and links to back up that spurious and incendiary charge.
    Torcer►Fiberal: (11/09/2016) Prove it with exact quotes in the form of excerpts and links.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/15/2017) Really, and where did i say that? You will have to prove that with an excerpt and link.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/19/2017) Really, and where did i say that? You will have to prove that with an excerpt and link.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/06/2017) Where did i state that?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/06/2017) Where did i state that?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/06/2017) Where did i state that?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/06/2017) Where did i state that?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/06/2017) Where did i state that?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/09/2017) Where did i state that? Again, you made a blanket declarative statement based on information you do not have. Therefore it is false and you are a liar.
    Torcer: (10/10/2017) Where did i state that? Again, you made a blanket declarative statement based on information you do not have. Therefore it is false and you are a liar.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/10/2017) Where did i state that? Again, you made a blanket declarative statement based on information you do not have. Therefore it is false and you are a liar.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/10/2017) Where did i state that? Again, you made a blanket declarative statement based on information you do not have. Therefore it is false and you are a liar.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/10/2017) Where did i state that? Again, you made a blanket declarative statement based on information you do not have. Therefore it is false and you are a liar.
    Torcer►TED: (10/13/2017) As I’ve asked it repeatedly: where did i state that? Again, it made a blanket declarative statement based on information it does not have.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/13/2017) As I’ve asked it repeatedly: where did i state that? Again, it made a blanket declarative statement based on information it does not have.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/13/2017) As I’ve asked it repeatedly: where did i state that? Again, it made a blanket declarative statement based on information it does not have.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/13/2017) As I’ve asked it repeatedly: where did i state that? Again, it made a blanket declarative statement based on information it does not have.

  57. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer Claims to “eviscerate” with New Attack Threads

    Torcer►Nobama: (03/07/2016) I’m not going to debate you on a long dead thread – I prefer to eviscerate your points in a much more public sphere.
    Torcer►Nobama: (03/07/2016) I’m not going to debate you on a long dead thread – I prefer to eviscerate your points in a much more public sphere.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (03/16/2016) I prefer to eviscerate your assertions on an active thread for everyone to see.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (03/16/2016) I prefer to eviscerate your assertions on an active thread for everyone to see.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (03/18/2016) I prefer to eviscerate your assertions on an active thread for everyone to see.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (03/28/2016) I prefer to eviscerate your assertions on an active thread for everyone to see.
    Torcer: (04/08/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question, I will place this here:
    Torcer►Spleenicus: (04/15/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►Deep North: (04/18/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.
    Torcer►Deserttrek: (04/22/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (05/03/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (05/06/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Don’t be like Trump afraid to debate people in the open.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (05/12/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. So try not to be like your idol and debate out in the open.

    Then you found your stride…

    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (05/16/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (05/16/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer: (05/18/2016) Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (05/18/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (05/18/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (05/19/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (05/19/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (05/20/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (05/24/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (05/24/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (05/24/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer: (05/25/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer►Tom: (05/27/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads..
    Torcer►Tom: (05/27/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer►Tom: (05/28/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.
    Torcer►Tom: (05/29/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.. Try to set better example than your hero and be unafraid to debate like an adult out in the open instead of old threads.

    Then Torcer streamlined it into one sentence:

    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/31/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/31/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/31/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/31/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/31/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/31/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum…
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/31/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum…
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/01/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/01/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/02/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/02/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/02/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/02/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/02/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/04/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/04/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/05/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/10/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/10/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/10/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/20/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/20/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/20/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum…..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/20/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum…..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/20/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum…..
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/30/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.
    Torcer►Fiberal: (10/31/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.
    Torcer►Fiberal: (11/01/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.
    Torcer►calmly_observing: (11/03/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.
    Torcer►calmly_observing: (11/03/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.
    Torcer►Fiberal: (11/10/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.
    Torcer►Fiberal: (11/10/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.
    Torcer►Fiberal: (11/11/2016) Since I prefer to eviscerate those who cannot answer a basic question in a more public forum.
    Torcer►Zachriel: (06/07/2017) Since it is preferable to eviscerate your comments in a more public forum instead of a thread that is 2 days old.
    Torcer►Zachriel: (06/08/2017) Since it is preferable to eviscerate your comments in a more public forum instead of a thread that is 2 days old.

    A couple of times Torcer’s brag was that he/she “will eviscerate” or had “eviscerated” a post without going to a new thread:

    Torcer►TrojanMan: (09/15/2017) I’ve addressed this issue before and eviscerated that contention – that cherry picked data is based on random events and the selections by someone else.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/20/2017) Just for fun I will eviscerate this post of yours… if I can make it through without laughing..

  58. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer Attack Threads™

    Attack Threads are used to accomplish one or more of the following:

    ● Abandon damaging context, links, references, etc.
    ● Bring a conflict to the top of a more current thread
    ● Cherry-pick quotes and reply to those
    ● Use comments subsequently posted on old threads as an “attack on an old thread” – though nobody would notice nor care
    ● Disqus will not email opponent a notification since it isn’t a reply
    ● Hope your opponent doesn’t notice

    Below are examples taken since September of 2017:

    1. Torcer: (09/09/2017) Can anyone figure what exactly her point is here – aside from arguing minutia?
    2. Torcer: (09/11/2017) Sadly, there are some around here who have forgotten how to act as an adult and engage in a have a pleasant conversation over the issues of the day.
    3. Torcer: (09/13/2017) Why are there some around here who obsess over non-existent issues?
    4. Torcer: (09/13/2017) KirklesWorth How did that score? Let’s review the checklist:
    5. Torcer: (09/13/2017) Do you even understand the meanings of the words I used or that random data is based on the actions of someone else?
    6. Torcer: (09/13/2017) KirklesWorth And what is this so-called “incorrect behavior”
    7. Torcer: (09/15/2017) Does anyone else find it extremely disturbing that there are those here who have no moral compunction over a disingenuous mischaracterization of someone’s position?
    8. Torcer: (09/15/2017) Everyone should note that KirklesWorth has to avoid putting forward an intellectual argument, lest it reveal too much
    9. Torcer: (09/19/2017) Once again KirklesWorth is incapable of debating current events in an intellectual level and instead was off to the races posting a long screed steeped in past events.
    10. Torcer: (09/19/2017) Some of us are busying creating lesson plans and writing papers, and we don’t have time to waste arguing minutia.
    11. Torcer: (09/19/2017) And once again KirklesWorth is initiating pointless attacks on an old thread:
    12. Torcer: (09/20/2017) Seriously? ..here comes the laughter… okay… are you unaware of you own actions?
    13. Torcer: (09/20/2017) Does anyone else find it interesting that KirklesWorth cannot seem to talk about recent events such as President Trump’s speech before the UN [One of his best]
    14. Torcer: (09/20/2017) Again – try reading the entire post including the excerpts of your attacks on old threads:
    15. Torcer: (09/26/2017) Okay class, here we have so many teachable moments and so little time
    16. Torcer: (09/27/2017) Note that it originated the tactic of initiating attacks on old threads.
    17. Torcer: (09/28/2017) Perhaps for once we can try to elicit an honest and open opinion from KirklesWorth on this turn of events.
    18. Torcer: (09/28/2017) And Once again, the originator of attacks against Conservatives on old threads FAILS Address the issue of Trump moving Left on healthcare:
    19. Torcer: (09/28/2017) And now we’re down to the the originator of attacks against Conservatives wasting time hurling a blizzard of postings.
    20. Torcer: (10/05/2017) My guess is that KirklesWorth won’t have an opinion on this….
    21. Torcer: (10/05/2017) This from someone who regularly use it’s name calling to avoid justifying it falsehood via circular logic.
    22. Torcer: (10/05/2017) And once again it shows that it doesn’t have the chops to debate like an adult and has to play games with posting such as this:
    23. Torcer: (10/05/2017) So is posting a comment instigating an attack? This from someone who Conveniently ignores it’s own actions
    24. Torcer: (10/05/2017) Note that aside from it’s attempt at currying favor and lying once again, it didn’t actually have anything substantive to add to the conversation.
    25. Torcer: (10/05/2017) And of course it tries to deflect from it’s lies by distracting from them:
    26. Torcer: (10/06/2017) Here KirklesWorth was shown to be a LIAR making a declarative statement based on information IT Does not have:
    27. Torcer: (10/07/2017) By KirklesWorth’s ‘logic’, someone could make any kind of farcical implication and then Demand someone disprove it.
    28. Torcer: (10/09/2017) By KirklesWorth’s ‘logic’, someone could make any kind of farcical implication and then Demand someone disprove it.
    29. Torcer: (10/10/2017) Once again, Everyone please note that ‘KirklesWorth’ doesn’t actually answer the question…
    30. Torcer: (10/15/2017)
    31. Torcer: (10/15/2017) Inconsistencies are one of the prime indicators that someone is lying.
    32. Torcer: (10/16/2017) Heavens to Betsy – someone commenting on the internet! Oh no! can our Constitutional Republic survive?
    33. Torcer: (10/16/2017) Once again, one of the key indicators on someone’s veracity is how consistent they are.
    34. Torcer: (10/16/2017) Note that it STILL Doesn’t address the issue.

  59. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer, the First Amendment, and the “authoritarian bent”

    1. Torcer: (02/25/2016) To whom ever decided that my posts have to now be censored and who is going to review this post.. [I would have done this by the mail system but I am suddenly ‘Too new’ to use it – having been here for months now and having used that in the past] Your removal of a post I made claiming it was flamebait is perfectly acceptable…. that was your decision to make even though I am unaware of that rule for posting. But now suddenly ALL my posts have gone into your Review process – why? Was it because I had the temerity to try to post an anti-Trump thread? I want to ask you an important question: Do you still believe in Free-speech? Do you still believe in Liberty? Because from where I’m sitting Free-Republic is becoming just as bad as some leftist sites. I’ve been posting here for years now, and aside from your initial review process which I fully understand has to be done.. I have never been put back in the queue. Is it because I dared oppose the Trump candidacy? Do you still think you are upholding the standards of Liberty or are you going to modify the name of this site to be Free (only if you support Trump) republic? And I am very curious how you internally rationalize your behaviour – that is IF you still maintain the identity of a Constitutional conservative. BTW, you can be assured that this comments and Many others will be posted elsewhere, so your attempts at suppressing free-speech will all be for naught.
    2. Torcer: (03/08/2016) He wants to denigrate the 1st amendment – Fine with Trump supporters!
    3. Torcer: (03/08/2016) He wants to denigrate the 1st amendment – Fine with Trump supporters!
    4. Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (03/16/2016) So as a supposed Libertarian, what is your opinion of Trump’s denigration of the 1st amendment?
    5. Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) Are you decreeing the parameters of one’s free-speech?
    6. Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) Are you decreeing the parameters of one’s free-speech?
    7. Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/24/2016) So do you want to decree what everyone can post?
    8. Torcer►762×51: (09/06/2016) In this case we have one of his ‘supporters’ who has an issue with other people’s freedom of speech and thusly attacks other based some arbitrary rules it’s decided people have to follow.
    9. Torcer: (09/07/2016) In case it didn’t realize it – We live in a free country for now and I don’t have to control how many articles on certain subjects I post – I just calls them like I see ’em as they say.
    10. Torcer►762×51: (09/07/2016) Look at what animates them – Kirkles et al. are displaying a very authoritarian bent. It’s supposed to be a free-country where one can recommend or post whatever they want, and yet Kirkles et al. want that everyone accede to their demands or else that are and repeatedly incessantly attacked with all manner of childish invective and false charges.
    11. Torcer►Grumpy Cat: (09/08/2016) Amusing that it’s waste so much of it’s time studying meaningless numbers and disturbing that it has an authoritarian bent in trying to dictate what people can post.
    12. Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/09/2016) Once again we see the disturbing authoritarian bent of some: To review – this is the re-posting of it’s continued carping on a trivial issue from over a MONTH AGO:
    13. Torcer►TrojanMan: (09/13/2016) Yes, one does get the distinct impression that they think that somehow have the right to dictate how we can exercise our rights.
    14. Torcer: (09/15/2016) It’s still a free country, and those of an authoritarian bent do not get to Dictate how one posts around here.
    15. Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/18/2016) And with it’s authoritarian bent it has decided that responding somewhere else is verboten.
    16. Torcer: (11/16/2016) So I take you aren’t one for the first amendment and all those other pesky freedoms then?
    17. Torcer: (02/10/2017) Let’s be blunt about it – Fascists obsess about depriving people of their commonsense Civil Rights, just as they try to silence the opposition.

  60. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer had no candidate and subsequently no plan to defeat Hillary

    Here is a quick summary of the evidence based on Torcer‘s admissions (full excerpts provided for reference at the bottom):

    [1] 06/24/16 I have no idea what I may do in November
    . . ● Made no choice/decision/selection = no candidate
    . . ● “may do” indicates a possibility of action
    [2] 08/11/16 I don’t have the foggiest idea on who I will vote
    . . ● Made no choice/decision/selection = no candidate
    . . ● No change from previous admission
    [3] 08/11/16 I said I hadn’t decided yet
    . . ● Made no choice/decision/selection = no candidate
    . . ● No change from previous admission(s)
    [4] 08/20/16 I cannot indicate what I will do come election day.
    . . ● Made no choice/decision/selection = no candidate
    . . ● No change from previous admission(s)
    [5] 09/20/16 I cannot indicate what I will do when the day comes around because even now I don’t know
    . . ● Made no choice/decision/selection = no candidate
    . . ● No change from previous admission(s)

    Conclusion: based on inductive reasoning, Torcer admittedly had no candidate between 6/24/2016 and 09/20/2016. Based on evidence of absence, it is reasonable to conclude that Torcer neither had a candidate between those date nor did Torcer have a candidate up to, and including, the 2016 election. Torcer‘s unwillingness or inability to provide evidence to the contrary helps make this case.

    ▬ References ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬

    [1] Torcer►TED: (06/24/2016) I have no idea what I may do in November – I will vote down ballot but whether or not I can do that for Trump IF he’s on the ticket is another story.
    [2] Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/11/2016) At this point I don’t have the foggiest idea on who I will vote… I suspect it’s going to what is going on when I step into the voting booth.
    [3] Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/11/2016) Did you miss the part where I said I hadn’t decided yet?
    [4] Torcer►Noovuss: (08/20/2016) Perhaps – at this point in time I cannot indicate what I will do come election day.
    [5] Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/20/2016) The problem is not just voting – and I cannot indicate what I will do when the day comes around because even now I don’t know – but it’s also a question of Volunteering and donations.

  61. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer Tactic: Faux Persecution Complex

    Torcer►Walter.R: (07/13/2016) Why would I be enduing [sic] this abuse for you people were that the case.
    Torcer►Walter.R: (07/13/2016) Why would I be enduing [sic] this abuse for you people were that the case.
    Torcer►Walter.R: (07/13/2016) Why would I be enduing [sic] this abuse for you people were that the case.
    Torcer►Walter.R: (07/13/2016) Why would I be enduing [sic] this abuse for you people were that the case.
    Torcer►762×51: (07/13/2016) Note that our ‘friend’ who purports to be a Trump supporter doesn’t actually try to tout his candidacy but instead attacks Conservatives seeding chaos and dividing the right.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) You are also aptly demonstrating that you would rather attack Conservative than try to sell Trump’s candidacy.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) You are also aptly demonstrating that you would rather attack Conservative than try to sell Trump’s candidacy.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) You are also aptly demonstrating that you would rather attack Conservative than try to sell Trump’s candidacy.Why don’t you try doing that without invoking the name ‘Hillary’
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) You are also aptly demonstrating that you would rather attack Conservative than try to sell Trump’s candidacy.
    Torcer: (08/01/2016) This explains why there are certain blokes around here who cannot sell Trump’s candidacy but insist on attacking Conservatives:
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/01/2016) With these attacks against Conservatives being on long dead threads in a pointless waste of time.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/01/2016) It spends an inordinate amount of time launching pointless attacks against Conservatives..
    Torcer: (08/02/2016) Once again we see it [KirklesWorth] attacking conservatives with baseless accusations.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/04/2016) BTW, once again you show your predilection to attack conservatives instead of trying to boast the candidacy of the man you supposedly support.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/07/2016) The key indicator here is that ‘kirklesWorth’ expends an inordinate amount of effort in attacking Conservatives (Something it claimed to be ) than advocating for the candidate is supposedly supports.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/09/2016) One would surmise that IF it were actually advocating for Trump it would drop the attacks and try to sell his candidacy.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/09/2016) Incessant attacks from the likes of ‘KirklesWorth’ does not help the situation.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/09/2016) Actually you are the one doing that with your incessant attacks.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/10/2016) They instead spend an inordinate amount of time attacking people and driving people away from the candidate they supposedly support.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (08/10/2016) And KirklesWorth is doing it’s level best to drive them away with it’s incessant attacks. Note that it Failed to even address the points I made.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/11/2016) Yes, instead of trying to tout Trump’s advantages it resorts to SJW tactics attacking those who are truly concerned about the direction of the nation.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/11/2016) Gotta love those Comrades who attack conservatives and drive them away from supporting Trump and risk a Hillary presidency.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/11/2016) No, Instead of ‘defending’ the man you incessantly harass those who dare point out the man’s issues.
    Noovuss►Torcer: (08/17/2016) What if bullfrogs had wings, they wouldn’t bump their butts. Ted, who I supported, lost in the primaries. What’s the point, it’s an evasion of reality? Voters didn’t support Ted in the numbers I wanted, so why are you talking about this? What is your end game, do you see Trump getting out at the last moment, days before the election and Ted stepping in? I’m not getting it.
    Torcer►FrozenPatriot: (08/18/2016) They could spend their time trying to advocate for Trump and attack Comrade Clinton, but instead they incessantly attack those of us who dare mention a discouraging word about Don.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/28/2016) Instead of going after the national socialist left they attack us – why?
    Torcer►762×51: (08/28/2016) Their actions show their underlying motivations. Instead of going after the national socialist left they attack us – why?
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/30/2016) But that doesn’t stop some from trying to demonize others.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/30/2016) Yes, there has been a bit too much of that as of late. Especially those who insist of harassing others with petty insults instead of trying to convey information. Are you referring to kirklesWorth ? by any chance? Perhaps we all should abstain from engaging in it’s endless irritations…
    Torcer►Tom: (08/31/2016) How many articles have you posted on Comrade Clinton? Or are you too busy attacking principled Conservatives?
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/02/2016) Fortunately you haven’t been plagued by KirklesWorth – but for some odd reason it tends to go after people on old threads seemingly trying to waste their time for unknown reasons. It would seem that it does this to maintain an air of reasonableness to most on the site.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/02/2016) It first attacked me on a very old thread over an open letter I had posted Before the convention pleading with people to reconsider the choice of Trump. It did this after the convention which had chanced the situation immensely. Being an old thread no one else was around observe it’s tactics that are very reminiscent to that of the SJW’s.
    Torcer►762×51: (09/06/2016) In this case we have one of his ‘supporters’ who has an issue with other people’s freedom of speech and thusly attacks other based some arbitrary rules it’s decided people have to follow.
    Torcer►762×51: (09/18/2016) Yes, we were the ones informed and standing on generally accepted principles and supposedly we’re the ‘sheep’….
    Torcer: (10/25/2016) Hard work at what? Exposing Comrade Clinton’s lies and duplicity? Articles on how she is a danger to liberty? Maybe you’re referring to all the work we’ve done trying to inform you of the danger of the left’s socialist national agenda? Or perhaps you mean all of hard work trying to make sure the proper And what our hard work in dealing with the name calling and petty and hildish insults we had to endure for trying to inform you people of this upcoming disaster?
    Torcer►grayjohn: (10/28/2016) And what our hard work in dealing with the name calling and petty and childish insults we had to endure for trying to inform you people of this upcoming disaster?
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (11/18/2016) Pardon my asking but why is she disparaging you along with the rest of us?
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/19/2017) Particularly with regard to the tactic of initiating attacks against me in old threads.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/19/2017) I thought that was the case as well, but it is apparent from the responses I’m getting that actions taken against me, that really isn’t the case.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/19/2017) This has no discernible purpose than the punish someone out of sight so that she looks reasonable.
    Torcer►TED: (09/21/2017) One does have to wonder why it is incessantly attacking those of us on the Conservative Right…
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/06/2017) Why don’t you go off and do something useful instead of harassing Conservatives?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/06/2017) Why don’t you go off and do something useful instead of harassing Conservatives?

  62. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer Tactic: Derogatorily Call Others “it”

    Wikipedia: In a language such as English, it is derogatory to use the inanimate pronoun it to refer to a person (except in some cases to a small child), and although it is traditional to use the masculine he to refer to a person of unspecified sex, the movement towards gender-neutral language requires that another method be found, such as saying he or she.

    ▬ Example #1 (18 times) ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬

    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (10/01/2017) Back during the primary season, there were many a Leftist that wanted Trump to be the nominee. It [1] most likely found these references but most likely hasn’t posted them for obvious reasons. Consider that this situation would be perfect opportunity for the Left to attack Conservatives under a false pretense. Also consider that there are those who are extremely careful in what they reveal and whether they engage in debate. Bodhisattva: I actually may have made things worse by mentioning it. Should have let things be and instead I seem to have stirred the pot a bit. Torcer: Perhaps you should have made a full and unbiased assessment of the situation before intervening. But now that I’ve demonstrated that it [2] is the aggressor in these circumstances, am I allowed to defend myself from it’s [3] projection, vitriol, double standards and falsehoods? Put yourself in my and other people’s place on this site. Can we reply to it’s [4] incessant attacks? At one point you asked it’s [5] objectives and no answer was forthcoming. Doesn’t that give you pause? Ask yourself why is it [6] incapable of a rational and civil debate over current issues? Why has it [7] adopted the Leftist tactic of accusing others of what it [8] is doing? Why is it [9] incapable of answering questions directly? Why does it [10] need to use circular logic in it’s [11] assertions? BTW, did you condemn it’s [12] attack against me whilst I remained silent aside from documenting these attacks? Update: And of course it [13] has to chime into the conversation with another one it’s [14] long confusing screeds that did nothing to address the points that were raised attacking with an accusation of what it [15] has been doing the past few days. But Let’s see how long it [16] can restrain himself/herself from another attacking whilst I was trying to ignore it [17] … And it [18] takes a certain mindset to try and dictate the place and manner of everyone’s free-speech rights.

    ▬ Example #2 (15 times) ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬

    Torcer: (09/26/2017) And now the usual tactic of lies and name calling from someone who cannot mount an intellectual argument. The problem for it [1] is that it [2] won’t be able to explain my vehement opposition to to the Left it’s leadership and it’s Socialist National agenda…. Okay class, here we have so many teachable moments and so little time… At least it [3] wasn’t the usual 1000 – 2000 word time wasting screeds so that’s ‘Progress’ on it’s [4] part. First off – it [5] begins complaining about what it [6] has been doing all along. So it’s kind of interesting that it [7] loves to engage in the tactic favored by those on the national Socialist Left of accusing others of what it [8] does in spades. This goes beyond psychological phenomena of projection. It [9] has several purposes. One it confuses the issue because the debate devolves into a she–said, she-said sort of affair. Much like the Viet cong would always endeavour get as close as possible or even intermingle with the American forces of freedom and blur the battle lines and thus negate the latter’s advantages in artillery and air support. This also is an easy attack mode for those of limited moral grounding, who have no compunction following the idea of do as I say, not as I do. Second it is quite curious that it [10] appears to be following the Saul Alinsky dictum of making the enemy live up to it’s own rules… Why would a Conservative use those tactics? And instead of explaining itself it [11] merely turns the argument around. It [12] doesn’t even bother explain why it [13] Originated the tactic of initiating attacks on old threads. I could request that it [14] explain that glaring contradiction but the odds are none will be forthcoming aside for it’s [15] attempt at using meaningless cherry picked data that is based on random events.

  63. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer‘s Contempt for Trump Supporters Part 2

    Torcer: (06/24/2016) Trump supporters will not only NEED people to vote for him, but also need legions of volunteers to make phone calls, knock on doors and emplace yard signs, etc. Do the Trump supporters really think people can be intimidated in to doing all of those tasks day after day?
    Torcer►Mr. Freemarket: (07/03/2016) That’s the story incessantly parroted by the Trumpers..
    Torcer►MAS: (07/05/2016) You should have guessed that those supposed Trump supporters issuing the same false talking points would not be able to respond with anything of intellectual value.
    Torcer►MAS: (07/05/2016) Yes, the problem for them is that they lack the ability to act like an adult and put forward an intellectual argument.
    Torcer►762×51: (07/06/2016) It is quite interesting that most Trump supporters are parroting the same “Hillary is worse” line in some form or another. It is also quite indicative that these supposed Conservatives cannot affirm such with the a basic Yes or No answer to the question: Are you a Conservative?
    Torcer►Mr. Freemarket: (07/10/2016) Most likely it was the part about ‘favouring individual liberty, free trade’ etc.
    Torcer►762×51: (07/13/2016) Yes, they also cannot engage in a civil dialog. In many ways it is very sad that most who purport to support Trump act very much like the Socialist Justice Warriors of the left… Hurling childish invective, trafficking in falsehoods, never acting discussing the issues at hand etc. But considering that millions of Democrats supported Trump, it is easy to see that many ARE Socialist Justice Warriors of the left.
    Torcer: (07/19/2016) Whenever we dare bring up something detrimental to Trump, the response from the Trumpers is that we are really supporting Comrade Clinton….
    Torcer►Grumpy Cat: (07/21/2016) Whenever we dare bring up something detrimental to Trump, the response from the Trumpers is that we are really supporting Comrade Clinton….
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/22/2016) I’ve often found that certain people who purport to be Trump supporters act very much like those on the left – hurling insults, making things up and generally refusing to engage in a civil conversation.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/25/2016) That is called a fact… perhaps if you and those you purport to be in kinship knew more of them the nation wouldn’t be in such dire straits.
    Torcer: (07/27/2016) Why are his trolls infesting these threads attacking anyone who dares express an opinion on Trump but cannot detail the reasons they favor a certain candidate aside from certain superficialities? Their actions only reinforce the validity of the article.
    Torcer►762×51: (07/28/2016) Well, one only needs to look at it tactics to come to that conclusion: 1. The use of falsehoods and lies with abandon. 2. Comments replete with childish invective. 3. Tacit refusal to answer questions – and using the new technique of responding with a question meant to deflect the subject matter. Those who are truly supporters of Trump should be worried about imposters who delight in sowing chaos and confusion.
    Torcer: (08/01/2016) We are also seeing some prime examples of supposed Trump supporters in avoiding actually supporting the man.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/01/2016) Yes, she’s already done that – making accusations that directly coincide with what it’s doing at the time. It is becoming clear that her intent is to not really try to sell everyone here on Trump but do the exact opposite. Consider two factors in this: 1. Despite repeated attempts to try and elicit answers as to why one should Trump – aside from the old standby involving Comrade Clinton. 2. It spends an inordinate amount of time launching pointless attacks against Conservatives..This only confirms these are deliberate actions against Trump as part of the plan to elect Comrade Clinton.
    Torcer►Mogumbo Gono: (08/07/2016) 4. It will be the fault of those who FORCED a deeply flawed candidate on the rest of the party – In other words Trump SUPPORTERS 5. There are more than 2 people running other than Trump, and if he doesn’t DROP OUT the disaster will be on the shoulders of those who supported him in this endeavour.
    Torcer: (08/10/2016) Trump is on course to lose this election in a disastrous landslide and yet certain ‘Trump supporters’ don’t seem to care – why is this the case? The national socialist media favoured Trump with billions of free media during the primaries – and this engenders nary a concern with supposed ‘Trump supporters’. Millions of Democrats voted for Trump during the primaries and supported him on social media with their SJW tactics attacking Conservatives who dared speak out – but this doesn’t engender any worries from those who purport to support Trump. ALL of these should be worrisome to those who truly support Trump.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/10/2016) They also don’t care about his dropping in the polls and his other unforced errors… if they truly supported the man these reports should bother them… but they don’t.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/10/2016) Bu that is no longer the case – the general election is with the entire population with voters who can chose the other parties. In that case, those kinds of heavy handed tactics would have the opposite effect. It is my contention that is the purpose of some of the ‘Trump supporters’ around here and elsewhere.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/10/2016) They instead spend an inordinate amount of time attacking people and driving people away from the candidate they supposedly support. Not to mention coarsening the behaviour of those who may truly support the man and thus propagating the chaos.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/11/2016) Someone else made the comment the other day that one reason they have departed the GOP and won’t vote for Donald is directly because of the childish antics of certain ‘Donald supporters’. Which given how they act is most likely their desired result.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (08/11/2016) Don’t forget the ever popular projection from Trump supporters – ‘Hillary enablers’. Thus the ‘logic’ from those steeped in the False Dichotomy argument.
    Torcer►FrozenPatriot: (08/18/2016) They could spend their time trying to advocate for Trump and attack Comrade Clinton, but instead they incessantly attack those of us who dare mention a discouraging word about Don.
    Torcer: (08/20/2016) Those who supported the worst possible candidate.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/23/2016) The purpose of a primary is to pick the best candidate who represents the party’s principles and values and who can win in the general election. This they failed to recognize.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/23/2016) When one bring up this subject to the Trumpers they always will revert back to a childish mis-characterization of the point as a complaint about the outcome.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/23/2016) The point is that had THEY been properly informed we would not have been in this mess.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/25/2016) What I find troublesome is why they are doing all of this.. They attained their wish of Trump losing as the nominee and they are still angry. It’s almost like they want to blame Trump’s issues on those who made an informed choice..
    Torcer►FrozenPatriot: (08/26/2016) Yes, one has to wonder why a supposed Trump acolyte would not be able to articulate the many and myriad reasons one should cast a vote for the man.
    Torcer►Wilberforce: (08/27/2016) Yes, given that most if not all of Jeb Trumps troubles are of his doing the blame for the current situation sit squarely upon him and those who made the the uniformed choice to support the man.
    Torcer►FiscalCon: (08/27/2016) Couldn’t said it better – It’s the Trump supporters with their uniformed choice that wrought this upon the land.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/27/2016) The Trumpers should look in the mirror if they want to see who is at fault. They need to remember a central tenets of Conservatism. We didn’t have Jeb Trump attack the judge in the Trump U case. We didn’t demure at going after Comrade Clinton. We didn’t have him attack people on twitter. We didn’t have him go after his own side. Those actions were all Jeb Trump – he is the one responsible for HIS actions..
    Torcer►Tucker: (08/27/2016) That’s rich – the Trumper KirklesWorth who can’t answer questions accusing others of ‘Clever evasion’!
    Torcer: (08/27/2016) It’s amazing how many Trumpers convince themselves that not supporting Jeb Trump somehow equates into supporting Comrade Clinton.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/28/2016) The proggies that persist in promoting the failed candidacy of Jeb Trump will be the ones at fault for what happens in November.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/30/2016) I’m beginning to find it very disturbing that more and more Trumpers are following the ‘ends justifies the means’ theory. They seem to have this idea that it doesn’t mater what kind of childish invective they hurl or what manner of falsehood they spew since they seem to think that the times are too dire for certain basic principles.
    Torcer►Kevcar: (08/30/2016) It would seem like it doesn’t… but Trumpers have difficulties in coming up with relevant points as you can see.
    Torcer►Kevcar: (08/30/2016) Par of the course with Trumpers… I do find it real curious why they are so well versed in drugs however…
    Torcer: (08/30/2016) Speaking of another poll Trumpers won’t believe:
    Torcer►wTallaksen: (08/31/2016) Yes, they insisted on backing the worst possible candidate and now somehow it’s our fault for his failings.
    Torcer►S_O_T_A: (09/01/2016) I dare say that now they [Trumpers] are learning the danger of going with someone not imbued with principles – who flip flops almost on a daily basis.
    Torcer►S_O_T_A: (09/01/2016) It wasn’t about who could win – although that is being forgotten at this point by the Trumpers.
    Torcer: (09/02/2016) It is the contention from the Trumpers that supposedly anything that denigrates Trump’s efforts helps Comrade Clinton – so we should look at it from that point of view with regard to Trump.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (09/02/2016) You are correct – but for some of the Trumper set, one efforts at reporting on BOTH candidates are somehow not good enough for them. But then again they have a certain false narrative to sell, and the fact of the matter are of no importance.
    Torcer►Mr. Freemarket: (09/03/2016) I find it very disturbing that the current crop of Trump supporters all act in the same manner. Instead of trying to debate the issues and convince people of their point of view they instead lead with false accusations. Instead of discussing the matter on an adult level take data that is true and twist it into conclusions that are false.
    Torcer►762×51: (09/07/2016) Yes, one of their tactics is to accuse others of what they are doing – in spades. They also have the tendency to use the leftist technique of repeating a lie over and over to try and pretend it’s the truth.
    Torcer►762×51: (09/08/2016) Yes, it is their shield against the truth – and it indicates what they truly are. On the second part – I may have to get your take on a couple of important issues…
    Torcer►762×51: (09/08/2016) There have been a few instances where Trumpers have railed against Conservatives..
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/09/2016) Those who pretend to support Trump don’t seem to spend that much time going after his opponent. You and I seem to be the one who post most of the news items. The others spent an inordinate amount of time trying to harass and demean others who dare to deviate from the ‘accepted’ truth of the matter.
    Torcer: (09/14/2016) So we now have a choice between leftist D and leftist R when we could of changed the course of our nation away from disaster. Thanks Trump supporters!
    Torcer►762×51: (09/16/2016) Trump is showing his true spots as a big government leftist. In some ways it kind of amusing to see the Trump supporters try to explain it away..
    Torcer►762×51: (09/17/2016) The most infuriating part of all of this will be that we are ending up with two leftists on the ballot when we could of had a Conservative that would have changed the course of the ship of state. That realization alone should be enough to cause the Trump supporters disappear..
    Torcer►762×51: (09/18/2016) It is kind of interesting that those who support the man tend to act like him.. Sadly none can ever act like adults in these discussions.
    Torcer►762×51: (09/18/2016) The main thing one has to remember is that they tend to lead with deceit. One of their main method is to attack accusing others of the tactics THEY USE to preempt responses back at them. Earlier we saw that Trump was a leftist, and his moves left now have only reinforced that belief.
    Torcer: (09/21/2016) Thanks Trumpers! You insisted on the nomination of a New York leftist and then turned around to talk a binary election…
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (09/27/2016) At some point they [Trumpers] will have to come to the realisation of just what THEY have done and it won’t be too pleasant for them.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (09/27/2016) No matter which one wins, one could expect them to slink off at some point in embarrassment of what they have brought about.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (09/27/2016) But thanks to the Trumpers, they forced two leftists on the nation when they could changed the course of history.
    Torcer►stone cruiser: (09/27/2016) And we could have done much, Much, MUCH better…. But thanks to the Trumpers we only have the choice between two evils.
    Torcer►762×51: (09/27/2016) I dare say that many a Trumper will soon slink off when it becomes clear what they have done.
    Torcer: (09/29/2016) Well thanks be to the Trumpers, rest assured we can look forward to that insanity in the states..
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (10/02/2016) As usual, Trumpers have to use the tried and true red herring method to distract from the discussion at hand.
    Torcer►762×51: (10/02/2016) You do have to wonder if the Trumpers have any sense of personal responsibility in foisting this man upon the party.
    Torcer: (10/03/2016) The problem is that Trumpers ignored this advice and went with one of the worst candidates ever fielded by the party.
    Torcer: (10/03/2016) Everyone should have carefully evaluated the candidates and rejected Trump based on the information we already had.
    Torcer►762×51: (10/03/2016) They were the one who made the uninformed decision to support the man, they were the ones who forced him upon the party. Now suddenly we’re at fault?
    Torcer►762×51: (10/04/2016) The key here is that this is of his own volition – he could have taken steps to prepare for that debate – he did not. He could have ceased getting into pointless tabloid feuds – he didn’t. We are not responsible for those actions, Trump and his supporters are.
    Torcer►Tostig: (10/13/2016) The problem for them is they have to deal with the reality that they, and they alone are Responsible for Trump being forced on the party and for this disaster.
    Torcer►Tostig: (10/13/2016) At some point all of the Trumpers are going to have their Colonel Nicholson moment.
    Torcer►762×51: (10/14/2016) Have you noticed that the usual Trumper suspects have seemed to have disappeared?
    Torcer: (10/17/2016) Your laugh of the day: Another nutty Trumper conspiracy theory
    Torcer: (10/18/2016) Thanks Trumpers for insisting the worst possible candidate on the national socialist left be opposed by the second worst candidate.
    Torcer►Artfuldgr: (10/18/2016) How does that video absolve violence borne of Trumpers?
    Torcer►Artfuldgr: (10/19/2016) How does that video absolve violence borne of Trumpers?
    Torcer►762×51: (10/19/2016) I’m wondering why we ended up with a whole new crop of Trumpers all of a sudden…
    Torcer►Mr. Freemarket: (10/20/2016) The problem for them is that they have to deal with the fact that it was they who caused this calamity to befall the nation.
    Torcer►762×51: (10/20/2016) One would think that now that their hero is going down to defeat and they are partially responsible for what happens to the nation that they would scurry off and hide somewhere.
    Torcer►762×51: (10/23/2016) Part of my point on the line of bull from the Trumpers with regard to those who dared to oppose him is how is our opposition to him having any effect on the down-ballot races?
    Torcer: (10/25/2016) What is truly amazing was that you were able to combine most of the basic elements of the Trumper persona in only one short sentence and an image – Congratulations!
    Torcer: (10/25/2016) Trumper I presume?
    Torcer►More Cuck Lies: (10/25/2016) Do you understand that YOU are the cause of the oncoming Hillary disaster? Perhaps you should have taken the time to become INFORMED so we could have AVOIDED this disaster YOU CAUSED.
    Torcer►chomama1: (10/25/2016) Trumper I presume?
    Torcer►chomama1: (10/25/2016) What is truly amazing was that you were able to combine most of the basic elements of the Trumper persona in only one short sentence.
    Torcer►Gort: (10/25/2016) False narrative red herring comments unrelated to the specific topic under discussion.
    Torcer►Gort: (10/25/2016) Projection accusations that indicates much more of the Trumpers than anyone else.
    Torcer►Gort: (10/25/2016) Comments will usually begin with some form of name calling or ‘branding’ that is disparaging in it’s nature.
    Torcer►Gort: (10/25/2016) Is it just me or is it really easy top spot the Trumpers these days?
    Torcer: (10/25/2016) #ThanksTrumpers Thanks to Trump, the Senate is looking to be a DISASTER for the GOP
    Torcer►Duckster1964: (10/25/2016) Are you referring to those who helped Comrade Clinton by supporting the worst candidate possible – the one the left WANTED to run against?
    Torcer: (10/25/2016) Hard work at what? Exposing Comrade Clinton’s lies and duplicity? Articles on how she is a danger to liberty? Maybe you’re referring to all the work we’ve done trying to inform you of the danger of the left’s socialist national agenda? Or perhaps you mean all of hard work trying to make sure the proper candidate for the party was nominated? Hard work in becoming informed of just how egregious the potential nominee was MONTHS ago? Hard work at trying to warn you people of the extreme danger of nominating the wrong candidate? And what our hard work in dealing with the name calling and petty and childish insults we had to endure for trying to inform you people of this upcoming disaster?
    Torcer►TheRealDeplorableVoiceofReason: (10/26/2016) Those of us who took the time to become INFORMED will not be responsible for what You Trumpers have wrought.
    Torcer►TheRealDeplorableVoiceofReason: (10/26/2016) This is applicable to YOU: you are only two weeks out from destroying America.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (10/26/2016) Exactly – had the Trumpers taken the time to become INFORMED they would have realised that he was a deeply flawed candidate who had no chance of winning.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (10/26/2016) He and the Trumpers will only have themselves to blame for this disaster.
    Torcer: (10/26/2016) #ThanksTrumpers NEW Associated Press poll shows MASSIVE landslide support for Hillary…
    Torcer: (10/26/2016) #ThanksTrumpers John Ziegler: If Trump Loses, We Must Control the Narrative With the Truth
    Torcer: (10/27/2016) #ThanksTrumpers “An Absolute Joke”: Pollster Remarks on Trump’s Sham Campaign
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (10/27/2016) If there is one thing that is very disturbing about those who are supposedly Trump supporters, it’s that they are long on false narratives and short on logic.
    Torcer: (10/27/2016) Ah yes, the childish invective of the Trumper….
    Torcer►grayjohn: (10/28/2016) Hard work at what? Exposing Comrade Clinton’s lies and duplicity? Articles on how she is a danger to liberty? Maybe you’re referring to all the work we’ve done trying to inform you of the danger of the left’s socialist national agenda? Or perhaps you mean all of hard work trying to make sure the proper candidate for the party was nominated? Hard work in becoming informed of just how egregious the potential nominee was MONTHS ago? Hard work at trying to warn you people of the extreme danger of nominating the wrong candidate? And what our hard work in dealing with the name calling and petty and childish insults we had to endure for trying to inform you people of this upcoming disaster?
    Torcer►Johnny Monday: (10/28/2016) Clearly you cannot explain that phenomena without revealing that the man doesn’t want to win and that you and your fellow Trumpers have fallen for history’s biggest scam™
    Torcer►Feet2Fire: (10/28/2016) And there we have it folks – the Trumper cannot answer that vitally important question.
    Torcer►Feet2Fire: (10/28/2016) If you were so concerned about Comrade Clinton, why didn’t you fulfill your DUTY as a citizen to become informed about the candidates and chose one who wasn’t a Democrat and who could win?
    Torcer: (10/28/2016) Good thing you Trumpers forced Don on the party and halted that….
    Torcer►Alphamail: (10/29/2016) Ah yes, what is it about you Trumpers that you feel the need to pile false narrative upon false narrative?
    Torcer: (10/29/2016) Ah yes, what is it about you Trumpers that you feel the need to pile false narrative upon false narrative?
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (10/30/2016) Like most Trumpers it long on false narratives and childish invective and short on civility.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (10/30/2016) They weren’t even close… besides the other candidates didn’t have supporters who were under the misguided belief that incessantly haranguing people will garner their support.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (11/01/2016) Yes, we need to do that.. the problem is many either enjoy those tactics too much or are deliberately trying to drive support AWAY from Trump. I can’t help but notice a decide uptick in those alleged Trump supporters going full bore on attacking anyone or anything who dare utter a ‘discouraging’ word about the man. With the usual line of attack being the Lie that whoever is the subject of said attack is really a Clintonista. Given recent events they should be in a better frame of mind and less of an attack mode. But this isn’t the case. The fact is one can support something and still criticizes them – these concepts are not mutually exclusive.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (11/01/2016) Trumpers should realise that they are driving support AWAY from their candidate.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (11/01/2016) I ran into a leftist who uses the same tactics today and asked if it used to be a pretend Trumper…
    Torcer: (11/01/2016) Do you Trumpers realise that YOU are driving support AWAY from the candidate you ostensibly support?
    Torcer►FrozenPatriot: (11/03/2016) The problem for her is that she’s been shown to be an abject liar – like most alleged Trumpers around here.
    Torcer: (11/03/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man. We tried to inform you that Donald isn’t a Conservative… We tried to inform you that Donald changed parties at least 5 times. We tried to inform you that Donald is an habitual Liar – and projects that onto others We tried to inform you of the polls and analysis that show Donald Losing in the general election We tried to inform you that Donald doesn’t care about the 1st amendment We tried to inform you that Donald liked the Obamacare mandate
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (11/03/2016) Isn’t it interesting that these supposed Trump supporters are doing their level best to drive people away… One has to wonder why that is the case…
    Torcer: (11/07/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot.
    Torcer: (11/08/2016) #ThanksTrumpers! They Gave Clinton What She Wanted
    Torcer: (11/08/2016) #ThanksTrumpers! They Always Wanted Trump
    Torcer: (11/08/2016) #ThanksTrumpers! Did The Democrats Help Trump?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (11/09/2016) Ah yes, what is it about you Trumpers that you feel the need to pile false narrative upon false narrative?
    Torcer►Alphamail: (11/09/2016) Ah yes, what is it about you Trumpers that you feel the need to pile false narrative upon false narrative?
    Torcer: (11/17/2016) You Trumpers are getting quite tiresome in your childish antics.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (11/18/2016) Trumpers do tend to attack anyone who dares criticize the man even in the slightest, so perhaps that is the case here.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (11/21/2016) I mostly post things here for my semi-personal edification and i don’t have time to try and decide what my or may not offend the Trumpery.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (12/21/2016) Sadly for the Trumpers they have to once again distract from the reality of the situation because it is unfavourable to their mythopoeic mindset.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (12/21/2016) One does have to wonder how they decide the threshold of with which to attack those daring to speak on their leader.
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (12/21/2016) Too low a threshold and they end up wasting everyone’s time in incessantly berating anyone daring to mention the man’s name.

  64. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer‘s Contempt for Trump Supporters Part 1

    Torcer►Brett Benson: (02/03/2016) He’s having a ‘Trumper tantrum’
    Torcer►Tuvok Shakur: (02/16/2016) Does anyone else find it very interesting that these supposed Trump supporters do not care about his political background or that he hasn’t been a conservative in the past?
    Torcer►S_O_T_A: (02/22/2016) As I said, I would allow that they are truly Conservative Trump supporters who haven’t woken up yet… and they are in for one rude awakening. And in many ways I’m getting to the point of even caring less about being on the receiving end of their childish invective. I normally don’t care since it shows some to be bereft of intellectual acumen, but in this case I’m secure in the knowledge I won’t have that OMG moment.
    Torcer►IslandLifer: (02/24/2016) That will be small potatoes compared to Trump supporters when they realize what they have done.
    Torcer: (03/03/2016) The rest of us out here are angry as well, but we have done our homework and have become informed and we have solid reasons why we are choosing someone else. Why can’t you Trump supporters do the same?
    Torcer►Guy Stumpman: (03/04/2016) The rest of us out here are angry as well, but we have done our homework and have become informed and we have solid reasons why we are choosing someone else. Why can’t you Trump supporters do the same?
    Torcer: (03/04/2016) Rhetorical question to Conservative Trump supporters: Rhetorical question to Conservative Trump supporters: Are you going to angry at yourself or others for the Trump disaster? Are you going to blame yourself or others for the Trump disaster?
    Torcer►douglas: (03/07/2016) The combination will eviscerate The Trump campaign, and without ANY other means of countering the onslaught Trump will lose and the national Socialist Left will win and you Trump supporters will see THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you wanted.
    Torcer►trump 1: (03/08/2016) The combination will eviscerate The Trump campaign, and without ANY other means of countering the onslaught Trump will lose and the national Socialist Left will win and you Trump supporters will see THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you wanted.
    Torcer: (03/08/2016) Trump supporters really perplex me. Here we have the nation on the brink and consistent conservative in Ted Cruz and you people are going for a con-artist in Trump Trump supporters try to come up with mythical ‘dirty tricks’ but fail to specify what they are. Meanwhile, Trump has REAL scandals tied Directly to his name and they blithely ignore them, why? From our perspective it is like they have Pre-programmed themselves to automatically think well of the man, no matter what he does.. He wants to denigrate the 1st amendment – Fine with Trump supporters! He bully’s people with threat of lawsuits and they react with: ‘go Trump’! Multiple scandals have cropped up where he’s scammed people and they don’t want to listen. What is wrong with those people!
    Torcer: (03/08/2016) Trump supporters really perplex me. Here we have the nation on the brink and consistent conservative in Ted Cruz and you people are going for a con-artist in Trump Trump supporters try to come up with mythical ‘dirty tricks’ but fail to specify what they are. Meanwhile, Trump has REAL scandals tied Directly to his name and they blithely ignore them, why? From our perspective it is like they have Pre-programmed themselves to automatically think well of the man, no matter what he does.. He wants to denigrate the 1st amendment – Fine with Trump supporters! He bully’s people with threat of lawsuits and they react with: ‘go Trump’! Multiple scandals have cropped up where he’s scammed people and they don’t want to listen. What is wrong with those people!
    Torcer►TED: (03/09/2016) Hmmmmm I’ve had almost that exact conversation with Trumpers..
    Torcer: (03/10/2016) An open letter to those who support Trump. (Review entire post)
    Torcer►IslandLifer: (03/14/2016) Do you actually have something intelligent to say or do yo want to leave it at what has become so tiresomely typical of the discourse of Trump fans?
    Torcer►Lockstein13: (03/14/2016) That is the best the Trumpers can muster?
    Torcer►IslandLifer: (03/14/2016) Do you actually have something intelligent to say or do yo want to leave it at what has become so tiresomely typical of the discourse of Trump fans?
    Torcer►762×51: (03/14/2016) But with the logic of the Trumper, that is a good thing.
    Torcer►Fiberal: (03/16/2016) Everyone please note that instead of actually answering the question the Trumper dodges and tries to BS her [Fiberal] way out of answering.
    Torcer►Fiberal: (03/16/2016) The Trumper’s abject dodging of the question shows a lack of understanding about the issues.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (03/16/2016) And once again you prove my point – Trumpers are incapable of articulating proper arguments about why most oppose him.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (03/19/2016) This should inform everyone that Trump supporters have abjectly FAILED to become informed on the issues.
    Torcer: (03/19/2016) This should inform everyone that Trump supporters have abjectly FAILED to become informed on the issues.
    Torcer: (03/21/2016) This should inform everyone that Trump supporters have abjectly FAILED to become informed on the issues.
    Torcer: (03/22/2016) It would seem like Trump supporters are much like leftists in that they love their double standards.
    Torcer: (03/22/2016) At least the Leftists are being honest – why can’t Trumpers understand this?
    Torcer►jayeS: (03/23/2016) Leftist Trumpers support the man even more BECAUSE he is the worst candidate possible so their candidate can win in November.
    Torcer►jayeS: (03/23/2016) Then why do vast numbers of right leaning Trumpers still support the man after all of his Lies, Gaffes and fraud?
    Torcer►formwiz: (03/28/2016) And what is is about Trump supporters and their incessant need to spew false narratives?
    Torcer: (04/05/2016) At least the Leftists are being honest – why can’t Trumpers understand this?
    Torcer►TED: (04/06/2016) They never spell out their core principles, and in most cases will dodge questions to that effect.
    Torcer►TED: (04/06/2016) That many Trumpers use the very same tactics the left use.
    Torcer►TED: (04/06/2016) That many Trumpers use the very same tactics the left use.
    Torcer►TED: (04/06/2016) They never spell out their core principles, and in most cases will dodge questions to that effect.
    Torcer►TED: (04/06/2016) It has been my contention that there are two types of Trumpers – left leaning and right leaning.
    Torcer►TED: (04/06/2016) It has been my contention that there are two types of Trumpers – left leaning and right leaning.
    Torcer►TED: (04/06/2016) Those on the Left simply want the worst candidate possible against Comrade Clinton and thus don’t care how bad Trump stumbles – if fact that makes them support the man even more.
    Torcer: (04/06/2016) 7 Signs That You Are A Branch Trumpidian
    Torcer: (04/08/2016) BTW, Where did all the Leftist Trumpers disappear to?
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (04/08/2016) That;s the point – he isn’t hurling anything but empty comments bereft of substance, as is with most Trump supporters.
    Torcer: (04/10/2016) Where is the bevy of Bolshevik Trump boasters these days?
    Torcer: (04/14/2016) 7 Signs That You Are A Branch Trumpidian
    Torcer: (04/17/2016) This is the problem we have with the #TrumpEffect – people who have adopted the leftist methodology of the end’s justifies the means..
    Torcer: (04/17/2016) And here is the word from the #donners on the issue of the Dirty trick:
    Torcer: (04/21/2016) As is typical of donner they have the misguided idea that merely making an accusation is enough, no evidence of such charges have to be presented, and the repeated requests for something along the line of Real facts are ignored.
    Torcer: (04/21/2016) And here we have another case study of a donner coming back again trying argue on long dead thread.
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (04/22/2016) What is it about donners coming out at time like these?
    Torcer►S_O_T_A: (04/28/2016) And if the donners think they are mad now, it will be a mere pittance compared to how people feel about them in the future…
    Torcer►S_O_T_A: (04/28/2016) I tired to make this clear to one of the donners around here that back in the 20’s & 30′ everyone in Germany was a fan of Hitler (Oh NOOO!! I used THAT Name, now the sky will fall…)
    Torcer►S_O_T_A: (04/28/2016) But of course, the donner didn’t take to kindly to invading her safe space and flew off the proverbial handle….
    Torcer: (04/29/2016) The donners come out of the woodwork
    Torcer: (05/01/2016) Is that the case with many of you donners?
    Torcer►MAS: (05/01/2016) Were a donner Disaster to befall the nation, many of them will suddenly be opposed to the man…
    Torcer: (05/01/2016) Just think about it – IF the donners get their way, that ship could be destined for US shores…
    Torcer: (05/05/2016) Have you Trump supporters figured out that you’ve been had?
    Torcer►Smith and Wesson and Me: (05/05/2016) This is because Trump supporters made a very misinformed decision. The consequences are the result of their poor choice, NOT those who didn’t ignore the warning signs and updated information.
    Torcer: (05/09/2016) We tried to inform you that Donald had Mafia Ties. Let me make it Clear to you Trump supporters, the epic disaster of nominating him will be on YOUR shoulders, not on those who were intelligent enough to try and avoid it. We will not be responsible for the resulting disaster, Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible. You ignored that information.
    Torcer: (05/09/2016) You people should be proud! You were able to force Donald, the worst possible candidate on the GOP you could. And now you can blame someone else for YOUR actions – for leftists it’s just doesn’t’ get any better than that!
    Torcer: (05/12/2016) Trumpers We tried to inform you that Donald was close to Bernie sanders in policy
    Torcer: (05/12/2016) Trumpers, We tried to inform you that Donald Is Not Prepared for the General Election:
    Torcer: (05/12/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We tried to inform you that Donald was not ready to talk on foreign policy. We tried to inform you that Donald was close to Bernie sanders in policy
    Torcer: (05/12/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot.
    Torcer: (05/12/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot.
    Torcer: (05/12/2016) So has it dawned on you Trump supporters that you’ve been Scammed? We realized it months ago – that is why we do not support the man.
    Torcer: (05/12/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot. We tried to inform you that Donald is an habitual Liar – and projects that onto others. Donald Trump may be a self-starter, but he’s not self-funded.
    Torcer►MicahStone: (05/16/2016) At one point I was banned from Trump zippers because I had the temerity to point out where Trumpers on the site were talking about Cruz dropping out back at the end of January.
    Torcer►Mr. Freemarket: (05/16/2016) Trump supporters should be doing their level best to unify the party and yet they aren’t doing this vital task.
    Torcer►Mr. Freemarket: (05/16/2016) At this point in time Trumpers like EGM should be trying to convince everyone why they should vote for the candidate they forced on the rest of US.
    Torcer►Mr. Freemarket: (05/17/2016) Trumpers chose to ignore that information and choose poorly.
    Torcer: (05/17/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot.
    Torcer►DevNull: (05/17/2016) Trump supporters Forced the man on the rest of the party and now use the tactics of the left to try and guilt people into supporting him – it doesn’t work that way.
    Torcer: (05/20/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot.
    Torcer►Tom: (05/21/2016) What is is about Trump supporters that you can’t argue based on reality but on a plethora of false narratives and strawmen?
    Torcer►Tom: (05/23/2016) Thank you for confirming that you Trump supporters have made a very poor choice.
    Torcer►toheckwithyou: (05/23/2016) No, if that befalls the nation it will be the fault of Trump supporters forcing the worst possible candidate on the party. Did you fully vet your choice? Yes or No?
    Torcer: (05/27/2016) And here we have another case study of a donner coming back again trying argue on long dead thread.
    Torcer: (05/27/2016) As is typical of Donner they have the misguided idea that merely making an accusation is enough, no evidence of such charges have to be presented, and the repeated requests for something along the line of Real facts are ignored.
    Torcer: (05/27/2016) Awwww.. isn’t it precious that donners are so fearful of having to debate like and adult that they hide of out threads trying to annoy and harass people wanting to preserve liberty?
    Torcer: (05/27/2016) Isn’t it special how donners can’t follow directions of even debate out into to open
    Torcer: (05/27/2016) Go ahead, waste your time – people who are witnessing these tactics by you donners are becoming imbued with the full force of asseverations made about you blokes
    Torcer: (05/27/2016) What is it about leftist donners that they can’t follow directions or act civil to others?
    Torcer►MicahStone: (05/29/2016) Thank you for posting that – I would add “Free Republic” to that list – while they have been Trumper for months – they just recently decided to protect freedom by censoring it.
    Torcer►Eddie_Valiant: (06/06/2016) With some of Trump’s unforced error antics of the past weekend it should be clear to all but his ardent personality cult followers that there are but two explanations for the man’s actions at this point – either (or his staff) cannot comprehend the self-inflicted damage he doing or it’s on purpose.
    Torcer►762×51: (06/06/2016) True Conservatives oppose Trump because he is not a Conservative. Those who support cannot be Conservatives..
    Torcer►762×51: (06/06/2016) Yes, I’ve discovered a lot of Trump supporters tend to use the very same juvenile tactics favoured by the national socialist left.
    Torcer►762×51: (06/06/2016) Yes, that is the most disconcerting part of all of this. Some Conservatives have been taken in by this latest scam from Trump and they are about to commit the biggest mistake in the history of the republic.
    Torcer►IslandLifer: (06/12/2016) At the conclusion of all of this, we who opposed Donald can hold our head high knowing that we made an INFORMED choice, you Trump supporters cannot.
    Torcer►dott: (06/12/2016) lease do me the favour of posting an excerpt of the relevant portions of the article you wish to cite.
    Torcer►JoeK: (06/12/2016) Could you do me a favour and spend a little bit of time researching then man you are supporting?
    Torcer►OldSailor: (06/17/2016) We’re not the ones handing the victory to Comrade Clinton – You Trumpers are the ones doing that.
    Torcer►Tom: (06/18/2016) You choose to ignore the information in the media about the man.
    Torcer►Tom: (06/18/2016) Those of you who made the uniformed decision to support him will be the ones responsible.
    Torcer►TED: (06/23/2016) Trump supporters will not only NEED people to vote for him, but also need legions of volunteers to make phone calls, knock on doors and emplace yard signs, etc. Do the Trump supporters really think people can be intimidated in to doing all of those tasks day after day?

  65. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer Tactic: “Waste of Time / Who Has Time?”

    Torcer►Fiberal: (03/22/2016) Why do you think people want to waste their time reading of your false narratives?
    Torcer►mauser 98: (04/05/2016) So keep on wasting your time posting a myriad variations of the same thing, I will keep on proving my point each responding with questions YOU CANNOT ANSWER…
    Torcer►mauser 98: (04/05/2016) So keep on wasting your time posting a myriad variations of the same thing,
    Torcer: (05/23/2016) Try looking at the numbers instead of wasting your time making up meaningless strawman arguments.
    Torcer: (05/27/2016) Go ahead, waste your time – people who are witnessing these tactics by you Donners are becoming imbued with the full force of asseverations made about you blokes
    Torcer: (05/27/2016) Go ahead, keep wasting your time.
    Torcer: (05/27/2016) I can repeat this as many times as necessary If you want to waste your time in pointless pursuits knock yourself out I can just repeat the same thing over and over again with little effort expended on my part. While you waste your time showing that you are incapable of debating alike and adult
    Torcer►Tom: (06/21/2016) It’s people like that the nation is in such dire straits – instead of taking the time to research and learn about the most important decision you will every make. You waste time spewing false narratives and falsehoods.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/25/2016) At this point it is entirely POINTLESS to re-litigate the primaries.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/25/2016) Why do you keep on wasting time criticizing postings from before the convention?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/25/2016) What is the point in wasting time on this now?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) At this time it is pointless to re-litigate the primaries.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) At this time it is pointless to re-litigate the primaries.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) At this time it is pointless to re-litigate the primaries.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/01/2016) With these attacks against Conservatives being on long dead threads in a pointless waste of time.
    Torcer►762×51: (08/01/2016) It spends an inordinate amount of time launching pointless attacks against Conservatives..
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (08/02/2016) Except we see some of them wasting an inordinate amount of time trying to bait Conservatives in pointless arguments instead of trying to get others to vote for Trump.
    Torcer: (08/05/2016) It keeps on with vacuous irrelevancies trying to waste everyone’s time.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/02/2016) Fortunately you haven’t been plagued by KirklesWorth – but for some odd reason it tends to go after people on old threads seemingly trying to waste their time for unknown reasons.
    Torcer►Grumpy Cat: (09/08/2016) Amusing that it’s waste so much of it’s time studying meaningless numbers and disturbing that it has an authoritarian bent in trying to dictate what people can post.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/14/2016) Telling her to not restart a thread was meaningless since it revels in wasting people’s time in endless debates where it cannot act like an adult.
    Torcer: (09/18/2016) Here we go again with it’s incessant game of wasting people’s time asking questions that have been ALREADY RESPONDED to.
    Torcer: (09/18/2016) *SIGH* Here we go again with it’s incessant game of wasting people’s time asking questions that have been ALREADY RESPONDED to.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/18/2016) *SIGH* here we go again with it’s incessant game of wasting people’s time asking questions that have been ALREADY RESPONDED to.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/18/2016) *SIGH* here we go again with it’s incessant game of wasting people’s time asking questions that have been ALREADY RESPONDED to.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/18/2016) And once again you should see that your friend cannot stop wasting people’s time.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/18/2016) Sorry about that, but that was borne of my frustration at have to deal with it’s [KirklesWorth’s] time wasting repetitive and pointless questioning.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/19/2016) Since it [KirklesWorth] refuses to stop instigating this time wasting bickering I will block it as others should do.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/20/2016) Yes, I along with most others have better things to do… taking care of the little one.. writing on other subjects..
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (11/18/2016) I haven’t actually taken notice how many articles on certain subject you’ve recommended. I don’t have time to pursue irrelevant factoids such as that, unlike others around here..
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (12/21/2016) Too low a threshold and they end up wasting everyone’s time in incessantly berating anyone daring to mention the man’s name.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/08/2017) Debating past events in a pointless and worthless exercise.
    Torcer: (09/09/2017) Now, are we done with this incessant waste of time?
    Torcer: (09/09/2017) Perhaps some people should put some effort into articulating a cogent point instead of wasting time constructing convoluted posts such as this:
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/13/2017) Do try and act like and adult and respond where everyone can see your actions.. unless you don’t like to be seen wasting people time in pointless debate over minutia..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/13/2017) Perhaps you should become more familiar with current events instead of wasting people’s time while they are trying to do their part in preserving liberty.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/15/2017) I have much better things to do than having to respond to arguments over minutia, and its doubly infuriating when someone uses projection in their accusations.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/15/2017) Why do you waste everyone’s time with these endless attacks?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/15/2017) Why do you waste everyone’s time with these endless attacks?
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/19/2017) Some of the reports coming out are very disturbing with regard to the future of the country, and we would be much better served debating the issues on an adult level than initiating attacks meant to punish and waste time as well as dwelling in the past.
    Torcer: (09/19/2017) But this doesn’t stop it from wasting everyone’s time posting Long screeds that its to substitute for an intellectual argument.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/19/2017) And it’s a pointless waste of time arguing over the ratios of the articles someone has posted.
    Torcer: (09/19/2017) Some of us are busying creating lesson plans and writing papers, and we don’t have time to waste arguing minutia.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/19/2017) But this doesn’t stop it from wasting everyone’s time posting Long screeds that its to substitute for an intellectual argument.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/19/2017) Try reading what someone has posted instead of wasting time searching old meaningless data based on random events.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/20/2017) Don’t you have anything better to do?
    Torcer►TED: (09/20/2017) Sad because here is someone who wastes a lot of time in posting long screeds and initiating attack against those who it ostensibly is on the same side..
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/20/2017) But do keep up with your obsession with the past and wasting time with long screeds that no one cares about. And Keep up showing that you have plenty of time to waste cutting and pasting items from old postings.
    Torcer►TED: (09/20/2017) How does one person have the time to waste posting long meaningless screeds instead of taking far less time in debating the issues.
    Torcer►TED: (09/25/2017) Why plague someone with pointless attacks on old threads that merely serve to waste someone’s time?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) More of you wasting time avoiding debate……….
    Torcer: (09/28/2017) And now we’re down to the the originator of attacks against Conservatives wasting time hurling a blizzard of postings.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) How can you waste so much time in your pointless endeavours?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) How can you waste so much time in your pointless endeavours?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) How can you waste so much time in your pointless endeavours?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) How can you waste so much time in your pointless endeavours?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) How can you waste so much time in your pointless endeavours?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (09/28/2017) And now we’re down to the the originator of attacks against Conservatives wasting time hurling a blizzard of postings.
    Torcer►Mr. Freemarket: (09/28/2017) Same here, I do have some curiosity in trying figure it out, but as they say I have much bigger fish to fry:
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/30/2017) And true to form, two new long and confusing assaults were launched with accusations of what the Originator of attacks against Conservatives has been doing all along – wasting time in pointless arguments over past events.
    Torcer: (10/05/2017) You must waste a lot of time scanning all of these threads looking for the merest mention. How you you have the time to waste doing that?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/10/2017) And here it goes with another long screed no one wants to read….
    Torcer: (10/25/2017) Wow! Who has time to monitor old threads to see if anyone dare talk about it’s tactics. Not to mention wasting time writing long convoluted screeds. Who has that amount of time to waste?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/25/2017) Who has time to monitor old threads to see if anyone dare talk about it’s tactics. Not to mention wasting time writing long convoluted screeds. Who has that amount of time to waste?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/26/2017) Who has the time to waste writing those long screeds?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/26/2017) Not to mention wasting time writing long convoluted screeds.. Who has that amount of time to waste?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/26/2017) How do you have the time to waste writing those long screeds?

  66. KirklesWorth says:

    Torcer Tactic: Selective Reverence for Free Speech

    Torcer‘s rules dictate that Torcer‘s questions are of the highest priority (“my questions”) and must be answered before anything is to proceed. When Torcer does not approve of your answers or comments, Torcer will disregard your free speech (or your non-obligation thereof) – to begin the myriad of questions for anyone and everyone:

    Why can’t YOU answer a direct question with a direct answer? (2 3)
    Why do YOU avoid questions with red herrings, refusals or demand answers to other questions? (2 3)
    Could you please answer the question without the incessant recitation of the past[?] (2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9) [Emphasis added, note the qualifer]
    Why don’t you put more effort in addressing my question than Avoiding it[?]
    Did it actually answer my question?
    Are you going to respond to my questions, or are you letting it speak for you?
    Why can’t you speak on the topic at hand?

    Or Torcer just makes empty claims or requests:

    Once again, Everyone please note that ‘KirklesWorth’ doesn’t actually answer the question (2 3 4).
    It won’t answer the question and instead deflects it by asking other questions (2)
    But that doesn’t stop KirklesWorthfrom trying to use it to once again avoid my question.
    Please do me the common courtesy of answering my question instead of dodging it (2).
    “Note how our compatriot here can’t answer my questions.. and instead has to tried and use a loaded question to denigrate them.

    Torcer will invoke free speech privileges at his/her convenience and condemn those “oppressing” him/her, but does not recognize that privilege for others.

    Torcer: (02/25/2016) To whom ever decided that my posts have to now be censored and who is going to review this post [edited for brevity]
    Torcer: (03/08/2016) He wants to denigrate the 1st amendment – Fine with Trump supporters!
    Torcer: (03/08/2016) He wants to denigrate the 1st amendment – Fine with Trump supporters!
    Torcer►Ed. G. Mann: (03/16/2016) So as a supposed Libertarian, what is your opinion of Trump’s denigration of the 1st amendment?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) Are you decreeing the parameters of one’s free-speech?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (07/26/2016) Are you decreeing the parameters of one’s free-speech?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (08/24/2016) So do you want to decree what everyone can post?
    Torcer►762×51: (09/06/2016) In this case we have one of his ‘supporters’ who has an issue with other people’s freedom of speech and thusly attacks other based some arbitrary rules it’s decided people have to follow.
    Torcer: (09/07/2016) In case it didn’t realize it – We live in a free country for now and I don’t have to control how many articles on certain subjects I post – I just calls them like I see ’em as they say.
    Torcer►762×51: (09/07/2016) Look at what animates them – Kirkles et al. are displaying a very authoritarian bent. It’s supposed to be a free-country where one can recommend or post whatever they want, and yet Kirkles et al. want that everyone accede to their demands or else that are and repeatedly incessantly attacked with all manner of childish invective and false charges.
    Torcer►Grumpy Cat: (09/08/2016) Amusing that it’s waste so much of it’s time studying meaningless numbers and disturbing that it has an authoritarian bent in trying to dictate what people can post.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/09/2016) Once again we see the disturbing authoritarian bent of some: To review – this is the re-posting of it’s continued carping on a trivial issue from over a MONTH AGO:
    Torcer►TrojanMan: (09/13/2016) Yes, one does get the distinct impression that they think that somehow have the right to dictate how we can exercise our rights.
    Torcer: (09/15/2016) It’s still a free country, and those of an authoritarian bent do not get to Dictate how one posts around here.
    Torcer►Bodhisattva: (09/18/2016) And with it’s authoritarian bent it has decided that responding somewhere else is verboten.
    Torcer: (11/16/2016) So I take you aren’t one for the first amendment and all those other pesky freedoms then?
    Torcer: (02/10/2017) Let’s be blunt about it – Fascists obsess about depriving people of their commonsense Civil Rights, just as they try to silence the opposition.
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/17/2017) Heavens to Betsy – someone commenting on the internet! Oh no! can our Constitutional Republic survive?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/17/2017) Heavens to Betsy – someone commenting on the internet! Oh no! can our Constitutional Republic survive?
    Torcer►KirklesWorth: (10/17/2017) Could someone please explain to KirklesWorth the concept of FREE – SPEECH.

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